(313) hydrogen economy playlist 9/6/2003

2003-09-08 Thread mkb

artist - track - album (label)
suburban knight - nitestrike - hidden in plainsight (underground resistance)
the martian - prayer stick - red planet 9 (red planet)
gustavo lamas - meriendas - radiantes (persona)
jb3 - time (advent remix 2) - through the mixer (novamute)
decal - burn from the inside - satamile 13 (satamile)
ems - colonized - satamile 12 (satamile)
perception - mirage (beat vocal mix) - crime report (underground resistance)
kraftwerk - expo 2000 (dj rolando mix) - expo remixes (emi)
kraftwerk - tour de france 2003 (version 3) - tour de france 2003 (emi)
darren price - long haul 747 - under the flightpath (r and s)
jacob's optical stairway - claude young kyoto soul dub - solar 
feelings (r and s)

aural imbalance - keizen (subversive remix) - cadence 7 (cadence)
model 500 - the flow (alex reece mix) - the flow (r and s)
tipper - screw loose - surrounded (myutopia)
dave gahan - i need you (gabriel and dresden unplugged mix) - i need you (mute)
danilo vigorito vs. the advent - untitled - orion 002 (orion muzik)
rebus tape - control freq - journey in the sound 1/3 (reel musiq)
hardcell - weekend - mood machinery (jericho)
the martian - star dancer - red planet 2 (red planet)
jeff mills - the bells - kat moda (purpose maker)
swayzak - whole cd - fabric live radio mix 11 (fabric live)
decomposure - matches - ralf and florian (emi)
plan 29 - calonel - unschooled compilation v1.0 (unschooled)
a bit crusher - i am watching you - unschooled compilation v1.0 (unschooled)
sonic wallpaper - subloop thud - unschooled compilation v1.0 (unschooled)
naton rozenburg - electronic seal's paradise - unschooled compilation 
v1.0 (unschooled)
turbogeek - squiggle (lost within the curves) - unschooled 
compilation v1.0 (unschooled)

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Re: (313) Track ID

2003-09-08 Thread DJ Nikadeemas

Well, you are correct about it being repressed. Try a good dozen or so times thanks in part to the supply and demand factor of old schoolers in the UK (mid 90's) and the breaks popularity of Florida state. I saw this first hand in the shipping/ receiving department at Watts (circa '95/96) where a skid would flow in from Henry Street (yes, the label responsible for Kenny Dope's "The Bomb" by the contagious Bucketheads) and be desolved by mid afternoon to just about every corner of the planet. I'd have to say the main reason was simply the popularity of that annoying sample stolen by Urban Takeover's mainman, Mickey Finn who dropped the nasties on the flipside cut, "Boom Box". It's just too bad things didn't go better for Fourth Floor/ EXperimental/ Fokus which all seemed to lose steam around '94 when house really took over Northcott and Silvio only pushed the hits. - Original Message - From: MM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2
 003 11:36:38 -0700 To: Eric Scuccimarra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: (313) Track ID  alright i figured this out for you i don't have it anymore ,but i just  asked my super secret record source lol... which lucky for me happens to be  my older brother...   Artist: Biting Back  Title: She's Breaking Up  Label: Focus UK Records   it got re-pressed in like 93 ...it was real rare but someone was responsible  for re-pressing it i think it was yeno or spun who got it re-pressed...its a  yellow label and i think the actual track your talking about is on the B  sideit's focus #2 i believe.   hope this helps...   michael  www.renegaderhythms.com  Eric Scuccimarra wrote:Don't have a sample for this one... There was this old West Coast breaks   track tha
 t was big in the early 90s... All of the West Coast DJs used to   play it. Had a sample that went something like "dance with your speaker til   your hearing blow. Anyone know what this is? Thanks.  
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Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread DJ Nikadeemas
WRONG 
the best mix by far was LFO's stomp mix of Hyperballad:
http://www.discogs.com/release/64854
- Original Message - From: DJ Entropy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:42:13 -0400 To: Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,tuneintuition <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...  The best Bjork remix, imo, is Alec Empire's remix of BacheloretteTotally insane.   On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 00:39:09 +0100, Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Don't forget Underworld's remix of 'Human Behavior'. It's very nice -   pre-Underworld-gone-sh*t. There was also a Sabres of Paradise mix that   had a   '4/4' pattern, but relatively slow, at about 105 bpm. Can't recall which   track it was - something off the first album. Probably my favorite Bjork   remix (my copy was stolen, so apologies for lack of details). It was 
   really   f*cking good. It came off of a 6 track CD with remixes from Black Dog as   well. An excellent CD. Tristan   ===   http://www.phonopsia.co.uk   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   --  -DJ Entropy  (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston)   *supporting Pure Hardcore since 1987*  *being a RavePainTM since 1995*  *Save electronic Music - buy a guitar*   http://www.djentropy.com  http://www.elementalcompounds.com  http://www.planetmuzik.net  http://www.ingrooves.com  http://www.ishkur.com/features/suckysites/index.htm   
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Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread David Gillies
Has anyone heard the Funk Mix of Bachelorette? I really like it. Kinda
sounds like if Derrick May and System 7 remixed Bjork. But I can't seem to
find out anywhere who did the remix. Anyone here know?




RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
OK, I'll come clean - it's me. I'm the only person on this list who can't
stand Bjork. Imo she's not original in any way: Bowie, Bush, Joplin, Nico et
al
all did what Bjork does first and a lot better + unlike Bjork, they
could/can sing. People taking her songs and marrying them up to structures
with a more dance floor-orientated sensibility, doesn't disguse the fact
that they're bloody awful compositions in the first place. Therefore, my
Bjork recommendation would be to listen to
something else. My (not so) humble opinion.

k


RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
Actually, I'm another one who's got trouble with Bjork ... 
This being said, I still have respect for her because of her ability to bring 
together people from all scenes, graphically and musically - look at the 
remixes mentioned, it almost reads like a who's who of electronic music !
Gwendal

 -Original Message-
 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
 
 
 OK, I'll come clean - it's me. I'm the only person on this 
 list who can't
 stand Bjork. Imo she's not original in any way: Bowie, Bush, 
 Joplin, Nico et
 al
 all did what Bjork does first and a lot better + unlike Bjork, they
 could/can sing. People taking her songs and marrying them up 
 to structures
 with a more dance floor-orientated sensibility, doesn't 
 disguse the fact
 that they're bloody awful compositions in the first place. 
 Therefore, my
 Bjork recommendation would be to listen to
 something else. My (not so) humble opinion.
 
 k
 


RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
A few years ago I was at a gig by Daft Punk's Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo
(excellent, excellent dj who deliberately keeps a low profile, a lot of
people don't even know he's also a member of that group). He was playing a
beautiful (and wide-ranging) set and the knowledgeable crowd was being very
appreciative. Then suddenly, the first finger-nails
scratching-down-a-blackboard-black-board-like screeches of Bjork pierced out
of the speakers as he decided to push the boundaries even further. I winced.
As I glanced around, I noticed many people doing similar things, some people
started to leave the floor. With consumate skill though, Guy picked up the
sentiment in a flash and the track never materialized. Moral of the story:
be as wide ranging and as experimental as you like, but pls don't inflict
lack of talent masquerading as something else on to people who have a
slightly more discerning ear than the average, as it just won't work!

k

-Original Message-
From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


Actually, I'm another one who's got trouble with Bjork ...
This being said, I still have respect for her because of her
ability to bring together people from all scenes, graphically and
musically - look at the remixes mentioned, it almost reads like a
who's who of electronic music !
Gwendal

 -Original Message-
 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


 OK, I'll come clean - it's me. I'm the only person on this
 list who can't
 stand Bjork. Imo she's not original in any way: Bowie, Bush,
 Joplin, Nico et
 al
 all did what Bjork does first and a lot better + unlike Bjork, they
 could/can sing. People taking her songs and marrying them up
 to structures
 with a more dance floor-orientated sensibility, doesn't
 disguse the fact
 that they're bloody awful compositions in the first place.
 Therefore, my
 Bjork recommendation would be to listen to
 something else. My (not so) humble opinion.

 k




RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Sean Creen
wind up mode
Vespertine is a vastly superior album to Tour de France soundtracks on every
level
/wind up mode

-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 September 2003 10:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


A few years ago I was at a gig by Daft Punk's Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo
(excellent, excellent dj who deliberately keeps a low profile, a lot of
people don't even know he's also a member of that group). He was playing a
beautiful (and wide-ranging) set and the knowledgeable crowd was being very
appreciative. Then suddenly, the first finger-nails
scratching-down-a-blackboard-black-board-like screeches of Bjork pierced out
of the speakers as he decided to push the boundaries even further. I winced.
As I glanced around, I noticed many people doing similar things, some people
started to leave the floor. With consumate skill though, Guy picked up the
sentiment in a flash and the track never materialized. Moral of the story:
be as wide ranging and as experimental as you like, but pls don't inflict
lack of talent masquerading as something else on to people who have a
slightly more discerning ear than the average, as it just won't work!

k

-Original Message-
From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


Actually, I'm another one who's got trouble with Bjork ...
This being said, I still have respect for her because of her
ability to bring together people from all scenes, graphically and
musically - look at the remixes mentioned, it almost reads like a
who's who of electronic music !
Gwendal

 -Original Message-
 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


 OK, I'll come clean - it's me. I'm the only person on this
 list who can't
 stand Bjork. Imo she's not original in any way: Bowie, Bush,
 Joplin, Nico et
 al
 all did what Bjork does first and a lot better + unlike Bjork, they
 could/can sing. People taking her songs and marrying them up
 to structures
 with a more dance floor-orientated sensibility, doesn't
 disguse the fact
 that they're bloody awful compositions in the first place.
 Therefore, my
 Bjork recommendation would be to listen to
 something else. My (not so) humble opinion.

 k





Re: (313) andres

2003-09-08 Thread jurren baars

Philip wrote:
What do peeps think of the andres album ? from the audio on the submerge 
site it sounds like the tracks are based on funk samples and it's 
relatively downtempo, not so much like the house 12s he's

released...any ideas / opinions ?


do you mean the andrès album on mahogany, or the dj dez album on hypnotech?

the mahogany album is a compilation of previously released singles, with one 
new track.
the hypnotech is downtempo like you describe, and sounded quite good to me. 
i was looking forward to that 12 that came out last month on hypnotech, but 
found that to be a bit one-dimensional compared to his house releases. this 
new release on the other hand sounds like it's the same quality as his other 
releases, so i'm looking forward to it!


jurren

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Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I think she's an acquired taste, same with Yoko Ono (love Francois K's remix
of Walking On Thin Ice, I might add!!!), Kate Bush and Lene Lovich. It's the
nature of the voice.
When Mary J Blige surfaced people didn't like her voice (it's a little
sharp) but that blunted (or textural) quality defined hip-hop soul, and
people connected with the emotion, and she's endured for a decade, before
that people said Anita Baker couldn't sing and, ridicuously Aretha had
critics! People hated the overvocalising of Mariah and Whitney but their
styles defined a moment too.
I've always liked Bjork's voice but I am sure it's like mushrooms/oysters,
etc, you like it or you don't.
Do you recall the track? I am curious now. ;)



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From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 7:15 PM


 A few years ago I was at a gig by Daft Punk's Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo
 (excellent, excellent dj who deliberately keeps a low profile, a lot of
 people don't even know he's also a member of that group). He was playing a
 beautiful (and wide-ranging) set and the knowledgeable crowd was being very
 appreciative. Then suddenly, the first finger-nails
 scratching-down-a-blackboard-black-board-like screeches of Bjork pierced out
 of the speakers as he decided to push the boundaries even further. I winced.
 As I glanced around, I noticed many people doing similar things, some people
 started to leave the floor. With consumate skill though, Guy picked up the
 sentiment in a flash and the track never materialized. Moral of the story:
 be as wide ranging and as experimental as you like, but pls don't inflict
 lack of talent masquerading as something else on to people who have a
 slightly more discerning ear than the average, as it just won't work!

 k

-Original Message-
From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


Actually, I'm another one who's got trouble with Bjork ...
This being said, I still have respect for her because of her
ability to bring together people from all scenes, graphically and
musically - look at the remixes mentioned, it almost reads like a
who's who of electronic music !
Gwendal

 -Original Message-
 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


 OK, I'll come clean - it's me. I'm the only person on this
 list who can't
 stand Bjork. Imo she's not original in any way: Bowie, Bush,
 Joplin, Nico et
 al
 all did what Bjork does first and a lot better + unlike Bjork, they
 could/can sing. People taking her songs and marrying them up
 to structures
 with a more dance floor-orientated sensibility, doesn't
 disguse the fact
 that they're bloody awful compositions in the first place.
 Therefore, my
 Bjork recommendation would be to listen to
 something else. My (not so) humble opinion.

 k




Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread alex . bond

sorry to be a little OT, but I caught this..

same with Yoko Ono (love Francois K's remix
of Walking On Thin Ice, I might add!!!

Is this new?? what label? is it good??

Alex

anyone go to that record fair in Queens Park/Maida Vale yesterday?? oh boy,
rare items everywhere! orig. sharevari too, but couldn't afford that..
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Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I got it on CD through Amazon and it's newish. It's out through Twisted!
I always loved the song so I was curious and got it on spec. The Felix Da
Housecat remix is grungy, not quite there, the Pet Shop Boys is kinda
electroclash, but the FK/Eric Kupper remix is SWEET. It doesn't use the
obvious hook.
There's a harder mix from Rui Da Silva, a Danny Tenaglia Mix (never feel his
stuff since he went prog) and so on.
Def worth it for the FK mix - some 9.52 mins of it.

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Subject: Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 7:41 PM



 sorry to be a little OT, but I caught this..

 same with Yoko Ono (love Francois K's remix
 of Walking On Thin Ice, I might add!!!

 Is this new?? what label? is it good??

 Alex

 anyone go to that record fair in Queens Park/Maida Vale yesterday?? oh boy,
 rare items everywhere! orig. sharevari too, but couldn't afford that..
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Re: (313) andres

2003-09-08 Thread RAW2019
I have the mahogany release here
and it's very nice !!
besides the known latin samples, the bassline and beats give the tracks
their own feel

RAW


- Original Message -
From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: (313) andres


 Philip wrote:
 What do peeps think of the andres album ? from the audio on the submerge
 site it sounds like the tracks are based on funk samples and it's
 relatively downtempo, not so much like the house 12s he's
 released...any ideas / opinions ?
 
 do you mean the andrès album on mahogany, or the dj dez album on
hypnotech?

 the mahogany album is a compilation of previously released singles, with
one
 new track.
 the hypnotech is downtempo like you describe, and sounded quite good to
me.
 i was looking forward to that 12 that came out last month on hypnotech,
but
 found that to be a bit one-dimensional compared to his house releases.
this
 new release on the other hand sounds like it's the same quality as his
other
 releases, so i'm looking forward to it!

 jurren

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Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Talking of strange voices, has anyone heard the album from Mu, Maurice 
Fulton's wife? It's on Tigersushi, I think. It sounds very eccentric from
the reports. Fulton is a total genius so it would have to be interesting at
least. I've mainly read of it in Jockey Slut.

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To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 7:33 PM


 I got it on CD through Amazon and it's newish. It's out through Twisted!
 I always loved the song so I was curious and got it on spec. The Felix Da
 Housecat remix is grungy, not quite there, the Pet Shop Boys is kinda
 electroclash, but the FK/Eric Kupper remix is SWEET. It doesn't use the
 obvious hook.
 There's a harder mix from Rui Da Silva, a Danny Tenaglia Mix (never feel his
 stuff since he went prog) and so on.
 Def worth it for the FK mix - some 9.52 mins of it.

 --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 7:41 PM



 sorry to be a little OT, but I caught this..

 same with Yoko Ono (love Francois K's remix
 of Walking On Thin Ice, I might add!!!

 Is this new?? what label? is it good??

 Alex

 anyone go to that record fair in Queens Park/Maida Vale yesterday?? oh boy,
 rare items everywhere! orig. sharevari too, but couldn't afford that..
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(313) New MPC

2003-09-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken

OK, this should *strictly* be on the gear list, but well, seeing as it's
likely to have a deep impact (eventually) on the sounds we hear ... (plus
I'm not on the gear list)


Re: (313) New MPC

2003-09-08 Thread robin pinning

d'ya have a link for  that ken?

if i was gonna have a OT discussion on this i'd say whatever they come up
with is gonna have a hard time competeing against a laptop nowadays...


robin...

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Odeluga, Ken wrote:

 OK, this should *strictly* be on the gear list, but well, seeing as it's
 likely to have a deep impact (eventually) on the sounds we hear ... (plus
 I'm not on the gear list)



RE: (313) New MPC

2003-09-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1197

Sorry I meant to post the link too Robin!


-Original Message-
From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:30 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: (313) New MPC



d'ya have a link for  that ken?

if i was gonna have a OT discussion on this i'd say whatever they come up
with is gonna have a hard time competeing against a laptop nowadays...


robin...

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Odeluga, Ken wrote:

 OK, this should *strictly* be on the gear list, but well, seeing as it's
 likely to have a deep impact (eventually) on the sounds we hear ... (plus
 I'm not on the gear list)




RE: (313) New MPC

2003-09-08 Thread andrew.hodgson
Not wanting to prolong the OT-ness (but doing so anyway)...

It looks nice, certainly a relief after the horrorshow of the 4000, although 
the latter does have some *really* cool features if you're prepared to 
persevere.I just kept on thinking I was supposed to drive the f*ing thing! It's 
huge!

Can't beat the 2000xl though, a unique box - a laptop don't touch it.

ducks for cover ;-P

Cheers,

Andrew


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Sent:   Mon 9/8/2003 12:43 PM
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Subject:RE: (313) New MPC
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1197

Sorry I meant to post the link too Robin!


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:30 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: (313) New MPC



d'ya have a link for  that ken?

if i was gonna have a OT discussion on this i'd say whatever they come up
with is gonna have a hard time competeing against a laptop nowadays...


robin...

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Odeluga, Ken wrote:

 OK, this should *strictly* be on the gear list, but well, seeing as it's
 likely to have a deep impact (eventually) on the sounds we hear ... (plus
 I'm not on the gear list)







Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Emile Facey (Plant43)
I think you're being a little harsh Ken! I never used to like her voice but
got given a copy of Homogenic a few years ago and, after a lot of listening,
really grew to like her. Not only has can she sing but she's a pretty
amazing song writer. She is also one of the only people about who puts
producers like Mark Bell and Matmos in the charts, not a bad thing in my
book.

As far as I'm concerned Guy-Manuel should have played the track regardless.

E 



on 8/9/03 10:15 am, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A few years ago I was at a gig by Daft Punk's Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo
 (excellent, excellent dj who deliberately keeps a low profile, a lot of
 people don't even know he's also a member of that group). He was playing a
 beautiful (and wide-ranging) set and the knowledgeable crowd was being very
 appreciative. Then suddenly, the first finger-nails
 scratching-down-a-blackboard-black-board-like screeches of Bjork pierced out
 of the speakers as he decided to push the boundaries even further. I winced.
 As I glanced around, I noticed many people doing similar things, some people
 started to leave the floor. With consumate skill though, Guy picked up the
 sentiment in a flash and the track never materialized. Moral of the story:
 be as wide ranging and as experimental as you like, but pls don't inflict
 lack of talent masquerading as something else on to people who have a
 slightly more discerning ear than the average, as it just won't work!
 
 k
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
 
 
 Actually, I'm another one who's got trouble with Bjork ...
 This being said, I still have respect for her because of her
 ability to bring together people from all scenes, graphically and
 musically - look at the remixes mentioned, it almost reads like a
 who's who of electronic music !
 Gwendal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
 
 
 OK, I'll come clean - it's me. I'm the only person on this
 list who can't
 stand Bjork. Imo she's not original in any way: Bowie, Bush,
 Joplin, Nico et
 al
 all did what Bjork does first and a lot better + unlike Bjork, they
 could/can sing. People taking her songs and marrying them up
 to structures
 with a more dance floor-orientated sensibility, doesn't
 disguse the fact
 that they're bloody awful compositions in the first place.
 Therefore, my
 Bjork recommendation would be to listen to
 something else. My (not so) humble opinion.
 
 k
 
 
 



Re[2]: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread deep-z
Hello Ken,

PS. ehh.. wanted to reply to entire list, but replied only to sender 
previously...

---

I don't know actually... I don't personally like all her songs, but.. It's 
impossible to judge the art or music you don't understand or like.


In addition to this - here come's some recent top-5 favourites of mine - old 
and not so old, 5 excellent tracks:

1. Technasia - Force.
2. John Tejada  Arian Leviste from 6 Hits Of Sunshine\a2 - a present of 
presence.
3. Sensorama - Aeroplane city.
4. Model 500 - Be brave.
5. Johannes Heil - Calling.


best regards,
deep-z
http://deep.live.lv


Monday, September 8, 2003, 11:44:55 AM, you wrote:

OK OK, I'll come clean - it's me. I'm the only person on this list who can't
OK stand Bjork. Imo she's not original in any way: Bowie, Bush, Joplin, Nico et
OK al
OK all did what Bjork does first and a lot better + unlike Bjork, they
OK could/can sing. People taking her songs and marrying them up to structures
OK with a more dance floor-orientated sensibility, doesn't disguse the fact
OK that they're bloody awful compositions in the first place. Therefore, my
OK Bjork recommendation would be to listen to
OK something else. My (not so) humble opinion.

OK k



(313) juan in japan

2003-09-08 Thread alex . bond
hi.

is anyone on the list from Japan?

did anyone catch Juan Atkins dj'ing over there this weekend?
got a couple of q's if you did

thanks!

alex
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RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Yeah Emile, I know you're right. I tell myself I believe in having an open
mind and deep down, I know I do, even if I must force myself to act as if I
do at times! I have tried to like Bjork songs on many occasions (the fact
that I have to try to me is a bad sign though!) and given that a lot of
people whose opinion I respect have faith in Bjork, I'm sure I'll try more -
mostly though, I think it's just a personal preference thing - which applies
to all of us on various issues.

As for the idea of Bjork's advanced taste and use of electronic music
producers I dig a lot well, yeah I have to agree, that's a positive thing.
It's just unfortunate that despite those names, I've yet to like anything
which she has come out with even with their talents employed - although I
live in hope!

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Emile Facey (Plant43) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


I think you're being a little harsh Ken! I never used to like her voice but
got given a copy of Homogenic a few years ago and, after a lot of
listening,
really grew to like her. Not only has can she sing but she's a pretty
amazing song writer. She is also one of the only people about who puts
producers like Mark Bell and Matmos in the charts, not a bad thing in my
book.

As far as I'm concerned Guy-Manuel should have played the track regardless.

E



on 8/9/03 10:15 am, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A few years ago I was at a gig by Daft Punk's Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo
 (excellent, excellent dj who deliberately keeps a low profile, a lot of
 people don't even know he's also a member of that group). He was
playing a
 beautiful (and wide-ranging) set and the knowledgeable crowd was
being very
 appreciative. Then suddenly, the first finger-nails
 scratching-down-a-blackboard-black-board-like screeches of Bjork
pierced out
 of the speakers as he decided to push the boundaries even
further. I winced.
 As I glanced around, I noticed many people doing similar things,
some people
 started to leave the floor. With consumate skill though, Guy
picked up the
 sentiment in a flash and the track never materialized. Moral of
the story:
 be as wide ranging and as experimental as you like, but pls don't inflict
 lack of talent masquerading as something else on to people who have a
 slightly more discerning ear than the average, as it just won't work!

 k

 -Original Message-
 From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


 Actually, I'm another one who's got trouble with Bjork ...
 This being said, I still have respect for her because of her
 ability to bring together people from all scenes, graphically and
 musically - look at the remixes mentioned, it almost reads like a
 who's who of electronic music !
 Gwendal

 -Original Message-
 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


 OK, I'll come clean - it's me. I'm the only person on this
 list who can't
 stand Bjork. Imo she's not original in any way: Bowie, Bush,
 Joplin, Nico et
 al
 all did what Bjork does first and a lot better + unlike Bjork, they
 could/can sing. People taking her songs and marrying them up
 to structures
 with a more dance floor-orientated sensibility, doesn't
 disguse the fact
 that they're bloody awful compositions in the first place.
 Therefore, my
 Bjork recommendation would be to listen to
 something else. My (not so) humble opinion.

 k







(313) Is this not the coolest mix?

2003-09-08 Thread Kent williams
The Ronny Pries Back In the Days Mix -- finally there's something I can
play for people and say 'this is why I like techno.'

http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days.mp3
http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days_playlist.txt



Re: (313) Is this not the coolest mix?

2003-09-08 Thread Michel Rijnders
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 15:43, Kent williams wrote:
 The Ronny Pries Back In the Days Mix -- finally there's something I can
 play for people and say 'this is why I like techno.'

Especially since most of the tracks are (acid) house :o)

 
 http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days.mp3
 http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days_playlist.txt
 



(313) a coupla new records

2003-09-08 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
hello

i recently got 2 new additions to my collection:

False Tuned 003
 René Löwe  Paul St. Hilaire: Faith
This is on Paul's label (i think he sings with RhythmSound) and René is of
Vainquer. Think Chain Reaction-styled houseish dub (or dubbish house?) with
roots vocals drifiting off. The B side has no vocals, i prefer the A side.
Good stuff for home listening, especially if you dig 4/4 chillout music ;)


Future Sound (can't remember the cat. no.)
 House Master Baldwin: Don't lead me
This is pretty good acid house from 87 featuring Paris Grey on vocals. The
strange thing with this is that according to discogs.com this version came
out on kool kat (http://www.discogs.com/release/79200) but my copy has a
Future Sound label on it. The Future Sound one has a couple more tracks on
it and apparently sounds a little different
(http://www.discogs.com/release/41450).
What can i say..im a sucker for good chicago acid - this is pretty good but
not exceptional. The Paris vocals are a little too straight forward and
sound too much like Good Life metrics-wise.





Re: (313) a coupla new records

2003-09-08 Thread Tom Churchill
 False Tuned 003
 René Löwe  Paul St. Hilaire: Faith
 This is on Paul's label (i think he sings with RhythmSound)

Paul St. Hilaire = Tikiman (who of course sang on many Burial Mix, Rhythm 
Sound and Main Street releases)

Cheers,

Tom



Re: (313) a coupla new records

2003-09-08 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
Thanks Tom! ;)
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: (313) a coupla new records


  False Tuned 003
  René Löwe  Paul St. Hilaire: Faith
  This is on Paul's label (i think he sings with RhythmSound)

 Paul St. Hilaire = Tikiman (who of course sang on many Burial Mix, Rhythm

 Sound and Main Street releases)

 Cheers,

 Tom





RE: (313) a coupla new records

2003-09-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Ok, 2 from me:

1) Amphibian - Double Life (Inform 004) tight, building yet still sweet
techno (supposed to have a Mr G mix on there too, but it must be anonymous
as I can't see it.)

2) James Croyden - Dub Sounds EP (Chango). Nice, nice techno dub from the
live-bass playing giant! Actually, I was looking for EP number two as I
thought I'd missed this, but it turns out the latest one isn't out yet. I'd
advise anyone vaguely interested to grab a listen (Groovetech?) and buy
quick if you like as this is on a sub label of Meta (Oliver Ho) and there's
no way it's been printed in large quantities.

I also like 'Jaguar', I mean 'Aguila' ;-)

k

-Original Message-
From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:31 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) a coupla new records


hello

i recently got 2 new additions to my collection:

False Tuned 003
 René Löwe  Paul St. Hilaire: Faith
This is on Paul's label (i think he sings with RhythmSound) and René is of
Vainquer. Think Chain Reaction-styled houseish dub (or dubbish house?) with
roots vocals drifiting off. The B side has no vocals, i prefer the A side.
Good stuff for home listening, especially if you dig 4/4 chillout music ;)


Future Sound (can't remember the cat. no.)
 House Master Baldwin: Don't lead me
This is pretty good acid house from 87 featuring Paris Grey on vocals. The
strange thing with this is that according to discogs.com this version came
out on kool kat (http://www.discogs.com/release/79200) but my copy has a
Future Sound label on it. The Future Sound one has a couple more tracks on
it and apparently sounds a little different
(http://www.discogs.com/release/41450).
What can i say..im a sucker for good chicago acid - this is pretty good but
not exceptional. The Paris vocals are a little too straight forward and
sound too much like Good Life metrics-wise.






(313) test

2003-09-08 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




good morning



(313) OT records up on eBay

2003-09-08 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




this didn't seem to go through the first (or second) time

I've got some rare 313 related records up on eBay that I thought I'd alert
the list to - all records are either sealed or in mint condition

Eddie Santonio (Made in Detroit records - M.I.D. 002)
Walt J Project untitled Professional Records (PR001)
Dan Bell - Elevate Special Projects 1 - Can't believe I found another copy!
I'm giving this one up for grabs.
Rick Wade  Brett Dancer
Wilhelm K - Get Up (Soiree)
Paul W. Teebrooke (Stasis) on Otherworld
+more

seller name: bast()rd

MEK



(313) Mu on tigersushi [was: Bjork Recommendations...]

2003-09-08 Thread jurren baars

Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Talking of strange voices, has anyone heard the album from Mu, Maurice 
Fulton's wife? It's on Tigersushi, I think. It sounds very eccentric from 
the reports. Fulton is a total genius so it would have to be interesting 
at least. I've mainly read of it in Jockey Slut.



i thinks it's maurice toghether with his wife.

heard the album @ the rushhour store a month or two ago, where mr delsin was 
playing it to his friend sturmy archer who was well impressed i might add, 
so i guess he can give you more of a detailed report.


it's a weird album, impossible to point towards a certain genre, to describe 
the sound. though from what i recall one 12 was extremely 
experimental/weird, and the other 12 was a bit more leaning towards 
'normal' house music/disco format.


i guess you'll just have to take a good listen to it yourself, as i think 
it's rather hard to explain.


jurren

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(313) OT MPC1000

2003-09-08 Thread robin pinning

some details:

http://www.stringtown.net/dallashiphop/forum/v2/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1544

robin...




Re: (313) Mu on tigersushi

2003-09-08 Thread marsel

i think the album is very, very great!!

without a doubt one of the most fresh and original things of this year

what to say - it's weird, punky, but still very electronic and very funky .
if you're into super_collider or harco pront, you should be into this as
well

for best check the sets by sturmey archer at http://nomorewords.net/sturmey/

nice sets with stuff by Joakim, !!!, Zongamin, Playgroup, DFA, The Rapture,
Sutekh, Harco Pront, Bergheim34, Max Berlin, 19. $tinkworx, Jamie Lidell,
Spektrum, .. etc i think the sounds are pretty alike Mu .

also check the new Dutch funk star Harco Pront - album
which should be out next (?) week

- Original Message - 
From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: (313) Mu on tigersushi [was: Bjork Recommendations...]


 Cyclone Wehner wrote:
 Talking of strange voices, has anyone heard the album from Mu, Maurice
 Fulton's wife? It's on Tigersushi, I think. It sounds very eccentric
from
 the reports. Fulton is a total genius so it would have to be interesting
 at least. I've mainly read of it in Jockey Slut.
 
 i thinks it's maurice toghether with his wife.

 heard the album @ the rushhour store a month or two ago, where mr delsin
was
 playing it to his friend sturmy archer who was well impressed i might add,
 so i guess he can give you more of a detailed report.




(313) Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread David Hampson
My recommendations off the top of my head:

More to Life Than This
All Is Full Of Love (Funkstorung remix)
Isobel (Goldie remix)

David


(313) Anything happening in Detroit next couple of days?

2003-09-08 Thread Javier Drada
I have some friends in Detroit right now and they were wondering if there was 
anything happening tonight or tomorrow night in Detroit, it doesn't have to be 
Techno related, any cool spots to chill would be good.

Thanks,

Javier Drada


(313) RIAA dropping personal piracy

2003-09-08 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




http://www.djmag.com/news_5.asp
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SMALL-SCALE PIRATES TO AVOID PROSECUTION

Words: Terry Church

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), which is responsible
for investigating and prosecuting copyright infringement in the US, has
said it will no longer concentrate on personal copyright cases and instead
only investigate large-scale piracy.

The RIAA, changed its' stance over copyright after US Senator Norm Coleman
of Minnesota, described the RIAA's plans as excessive. The RIAA used to
target individuals and demanded they cough up compensation for their
alleged infringing behavior. In some cases the fines were as high as
$150,000.

The RIAA recently revealed its methods for tracking down suspected music
pirates. By using digital fingerprints, investigators can tell whether a
track had been downloaded from an unauthorized service. ?Metadata? tags are
also used, which can provide hidden clues about how files were created.

Dance music has been relatively unaffected by internet piracy, as DJs
continue to use vinyl despite the digital revolution. However CD DJing has
become increasingly popular in the last year, and dance music record
companies have started to adopt digital download services to compete
against illegal downloads. The tunes are available for as little as 90p a
track, but whether people will pay for a legit copy rather than an illegal
freebie remains to be seen.

For more on the activities of the RIAA: www.riaa.org
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Wow, Norm Coleman found a heart hidden in his body.

MEK