Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
jurren baars wrote: Michael.Elliot-Knight wrote: i think i can safely say that of those $2000 exactly $0.00 goes to the artists. why? Because they expressly said so. http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/09/08/riaa/ Asked if any of the potential settlements would go back to artists, Sherman said it wouldn't. Instead, the money will go back into the RIAA's copyright enforcement efforts. There you go.
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
I'm so glad we have the RIAA looking out for artists' welfare... how many artists you suppose are on welfare right now anyway? MEK Mike Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org rg cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA [EMAIL PROTECTED] g 09/11/03 08:15 PM jurren baars wrote: Michael.Elliot-Knight wrote: i think i can safely say that of those $2000 exactly $0.00 goes to the artists. why? Because they expressly said so. http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/09/08/riaa/ Asked if any of the potential settlements would go back to artists, Sherman said it wouldn't. Instead, the money will go back into the RIAA's copyright enforcement efforts. There you go.
Re: (313)Beltran tonight
it's a secret mix/fixes remix -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com - Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: Re: (313)Beltran tonight damn. i haven't heard it's like that in BLMS! peace lks
(313) robotico rejekto??
who is the artist who did this track? i copied it from a friends wax and forgot to write the artist down. hes now in japan and cant remember who the artist is; wont be back for a while and i very curious. -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
(313) What
Surgeon played a fantastic set tonight at Plastic People. Absurdly loud, but all over the electronic music spectrum, including some weird Surgeonized P-Funk track (I think), The Stone Roses 'Fools Gold', two Nitzer Ebb tracks, one of which was 'Join in the Chant', the Carl Craig's Drums Suck remix of Dave Angel's 'Take Off' (or is it 'Airborne'???), some crazy nearly-gabber Aphex Twin, D.H.S.'s 'The House of God', New Order's 'Blue Monday' (the first time I've actually enjoyed this out in a club in years), Tres Demented, Kraftwerk's 'Home Computer' (never getting to the vocal), teased us with bits of At Les flute that never culminated in the song itself, loads of electro and IDMish electro, some acidic techno, a lot of Surgeonized edits of tracks that I can't remember, culminating in some weird gabber/noisecore thing leading into something I can't remember and then a UR track that has huge strings that reminds me of the beginning of Laurent Garnier's 'Dance to the Music'. There were even a couple of housey moments in there. He mixed fast and long throughout, was as tight as you'd expect from Surgeon, with a few tempo changes, sacrificing none of his precision or coherence to the breadth of this set. Surprisingly he played very few of his own tracks that I could spot, which is a complete turn-around from when I saw him in New York in 2001. Somehow he fit all of this into two hours. A couple of times in the set Regis would get on the microphone and scream like a profane madman. One bit ended with 'learn your lesson'. Although I didn't catch it, I'm told he was also whispering things about 'your daughter' softly in the background. Also, the Werk guys who threw the party (and the Ghostly party last month) all had nice PA's to warm things up. The only downside is that there were times (particularly during the gabber and noise bed bit at the end) when the (easily abusable) sound was utterly damaging, and throughout most of the night it was a bit too loud, even if it was still clear. If you haven't seen him in the last year, run don't walk because he has absolutely taken his sets to a whole new level, as evidenced by this set and his possibly even better set at ATP this Spring. The man is really pushing boundaries. He, not Hawtin, is the poster boy for Final Scratch, and what it can empower you to do. Y'all in the Pool are in for a treat tomorrow! Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Is this not the coolest mix?
Cool mix indeed !!! Can anyone confirm if he is throwing in peace of L. Garnier's Club Traxx EP (Dance to the music) over mix of mad mike's The Final Frontier and Kraftwerk's Nummern ? around 13th minute ? Thanks for the mix mislav The Ronny Pries Back In the Days Mix -- finally there's something I can play for people and say 'this is why I like techno.' http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days.mp3 http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days_playlist.txt
RE: (313) Is this not the coolest mix?
and than I read this from Tristan's report on Surgeon... Tristan: ... and then a UR track that has huge strings that reminds me of the beginning of Laurent Garnier's 'Dance to the Music'... ;-))
Re: (313) robotico rejekto??
If it's an older track from the late 80's you've already answered your own question. The name of the track is the name of the artist. If it's something newer then i have no idea. Cheers! G scotto wrote: who is the artist who did this track? i copied it from a friends wax and forgot to write the artist down. hes now in japan and cant remember who the artist is; wont be back for a while and i very curious. -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
(313) Re: Ken Ishii in Chicago
yeah- that's the party. and john acquaviva played nothing but michael jackson (or so it seemed) that second room was the place to be with dc and john breakitdown On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Phonopsia wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Quest Pond [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:03 PM Subject: RE: (313) Spundae Chicago he was underwhelming in chicago in 1997 (98?) the first record he played was Suger Daddy-O. And he started it at 45 instead of 33 1/3. S he just grabbed off the needle and put it back to the beginning. Was this the party in the high school gym with Derrick May, Derrick Carter and John Acquaviva, where the main room DJs were on decks at the top of some bleachers? If so, I must agree. Trainwrecks galore from Ishii! The sound in there was ass, so who knows if that had anything to do with it. Think it was early '98 if memory timelines of ex-girlfriends can be trusted. ;) Derrick Carter was very very good that night - first time I saw him. Derrick May played mostly tracks from the Mayday mix in a very similar order. Good, but a bit deflating. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Ken Ishii in Chicago
(The good thing abt more 'English' curses is that they're not in the prohibited word list yet!) Spundae, you wankers! ;-) k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Ken Ishii in Chicago Ken Ishii is playing this Saturday (9/13) at Spundae in Chicago which is really cool but look who they've paired him up with Saturday 9/13: Ken Ishi, Dave Ralph Szmurlo and Sanchez *special birthday set* AND they spelled his name wrong - on the email flyer there is a picture of Ken with the same spelling of his name. What the hell is wrong with these people? they should stick with people like Tiesto or who ever DJ magazine readers end up picking as their top 5 DJs this year. oh, if you want to go to this, here is the info Vision Nightclub visionnightclub.com 640 N Dearborn Chicago, IL 10pm - 5am, 21+ to enter Tix Also Available at WANTICKETS.COM and Another Level MEK
RE: (313) Is this not the coolest mix? (Playlist)
Thanks again. Here's the playlist: 01 phuture - acid trax - trax records chicago 02 m-dem ? 03 808 state - flow coma - reflex repress 04 joey beltram - energy flash - transmat 05 mad mike - the final frontier - ur003 06 kraftwerk - nummern - kling klang 07 armando - land of confusion - warehouse 08 bam bam - where's your child - westbrook 09 club mcm - club mcm 10 speedy j - evolution - plus8 11 roy davis jr - ? - sex trax 12 acidfantaslee - pump up london - trax records chicago 13 mike dearborn - ? - djax up 14 phortune - can you feel the bass? - hotmix 5 15 marshall jefferson - move your body (mike ink remix) - ? 16 aphrohead - in the dark we live - emotive 17 blake baxter - when a thought becomes you - ur 18 juan atkins - the chase - metroplex? 19 phuture - we are phuture - trax records chicago 20 final exposure - vortex - plus8 21 robert armani - ambulance - dancemania 22 altered states - move your body - network? 23 k-alexi - my medusa - transmat 24 hot hands - hula - trax records 25 krush - house arrest - ? 26 jeff mills - mecca ep - axis If anybody's interested, more sets can be found at http://www.anodized.com/~rktic Cheers, Ronny Cool mix indeed !!! Can anyone confirm if he is throwing in peace of L. Garnier's Club Traxx EP (Dance to the music) over mix of mad mike's The Final Frontier and Kraftwerk's Nummern ? around 13th minute ? Thanks for the mix mislav The Ronny Pries Back In the Days Mix -- finally there's something I can play for people and say 'this is why I like techno.' http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days.mp3 http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days_playlist.txt
RE: (313) What
i'd love to hear a dj like this.too bad i can't make it to t-funktion. third wave djing! :) speaking of which, anyone have any links to any of brendan gillen's laptop sets??i'd love to hear what he's upto with that. cheers robin... - -Original Message- - From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: 12 September 2003 03:39 - To: 313@hyperreal.org - Subject: (313) What - - - Surgeon played a fantastic set tonight at Plastic People. - Absurdly loud, but - all over the electronic music spectrum, including some weird - Surgeonized - P-Funk track (I think), The Stone Roses 'Fools Gold', two - Nitzer Ebb tracks, - one of which was 'Join in the Chant', the Carl Craig's Drums - Suck remix of - Dave Angel's 'Take Off' (or is it 'Airborne'???), some crazy - nearly-gabber - Aphex Twin, D.H.S.'s 'The House of God', New Order's 'Blue - Monday' (the - first time I've actually enjoyed this out in a club in years), Tres - Demented, Kraftwerk's 'Home Computer' (never getting to the - vocal), teased - us with bits of At Les flute that never culminated in the - song itself, loads - of electro and IDMish electro, some acidic techno, a lot of - Surgeonized - edits of tracks that I can't remember, culminating in some weird - gabber/noisecore thing leading into something I can't - remember and then a UR - track that has huge strings that reminds me of the beginning - of Laurent - Garnier's 'Dance to the Music'. There were even a couple of - housey moments - in there. He mixed fast and long throughout, was as tight as - you'd expect - from Surgeon, with a few tempo changes, sacrificing none of - his precision or - coherence to the breadth of this set. Surprisingly he played - very few of his - own tracks that I could spot, which is a complete - turn-around from when I - saw him in New York in 2001. Somehow he fit all of this into - two hours. - - A couple of times in the set Regis would get on the - microphone and scream - like a profane madman. One bit ended with 'learn your - lesson'. Although I - didn't catch it, I'm told he was also whispering things about 'your - daughter' softly in the background. Also, the Werk guys who - threw the party - (and the Ghostly party last month) all had nice PA's to warm - things up. The - only downside is that there were times (particularly during - the gabber and - noise bed bit at the end) when the (easily abusable) sound - was utterly - damaging, and throughout most of the night it was a bit too - loud, even if it - was still clear. If you haven't seen him in the last year, - run don't walk - because he has absolutely taken his sets to a whole new - level, as evidenced - by this set and his possibly even better set at ATP this - Spring. The man is - really pushing boundaries. He, not Hawtin, is the poster boy - for Final - Scratch, and what it can empower you to do. Y'all in the - Pool are in for a - treat tomorrow! - - Tristan
RE: (313)Beltran tonight
does anyone know if there any more of these 12s planned? the first two are wicked robin... - -Original Message- - From: scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: 12 September 2003 02:53 - To: 313@hyperreal.org - Subject: Re: (313)Beltran tonight - - - it's a secret mix/fixes remix - - -scotto
(313) Recommend...
OKIve got a unwanted gift CD from HMV, its worth £16.99. I went last night on my way home and try to get a refund on it only to be told that I cant have one (ill miss out the rest of the conversation, but I wasn't happy) All I can do is do a swap for another CD. So somewhat irate I looked around but couldn't find anything in the 10 mins I had before they shut. Planning on going again later...any recommendations for me that I can pick from the somewhat non specailist HMV Ps no looped bangers please :) On heavy rotation atm are the Emoticon Sampler, The Irma Soul in Motion comp and anything on Archive. So Deep Techno. Thanks In Advance. Rav
RE: (313) Recommend...
HMV used to sell the Derrick May MayDay mix, a must have if you've not already got it - also they'll probs have a fair bit of the DJ Kicks series [not sure whats still available but Ive been listening to the Stacey Pullen one recently which is really nice and deep]. Good luck with your quest to find some decent 313 in HMV !! peace, marc -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:39 AM To: '313' Subject: (313) Recommend... OKIve got a unwanted gift CD from HMV, its worth £16.99. I went last night on my way home and try to get a refund on it only to be told that I cant have one (ill miss out the rest of the conversation, but I wasn't happy) All I can do is do a swap for another CD. So somewhat irate I looked around but couldn't find anything in the 10 mins I had before they shut. Planning on going again later...any recommendations for me that I can pick from the somewhat non specailist HMV Ps no looped bangers please :) On heavy rotation atm are the Emoticon Sampler, The Irma Soul in Motion comp and anything on Archive. So Deep Techno. Thanks In Advance. Rav -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
(313) 313 on DVD ?
Ive got the Laurent Garnier Unreasonable DVD and also Modulations but have been on the lookout for anything else of musical interest on DVD...does anyone have any recommendations ? cheers, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) 313 on DVD ?
Not strictly 313 but the !K7 150 comp had a dvd with 12ish tracks on it. Not had a chance to watch it properly yet. -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2003 11:36 To: '313' Subject: (313) 313 on DVD ? Ive got the Laurent Garnier Unreasonable DVD and also Modulations but have been on the lookout for anything else of musical interest on DVD...does anyone have any recommendations ? cheers, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
(313) Mr Cash We Salute You
The word a little more empty as another great outside exits stage left http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3103164.stm
Re: (313) 313 on DVD ?
At 12:35 12-9-2003, Langsman, Marc wrote: Ive got the Laurent Garnier Unreasonable DVD and also Modulations but have been on the lookout for anything else of musical interest on DVD...does anyone have any recommendations ? This October Jeff Mills' The Exhibitionist DVD should be released. R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
Re: Re: (313) 313 on DVD ?
This October Jeff Mills' The Exhibitionist DVD should be released. --- It has been postponed till January. John R. --- http://www.funxiun.com ..dark.elektronix.
RE: Re: (313) 313 on DVD ?
awww :/ is this anything to do with the dvd/video stuff that jeff has been using whilst playing out ? ta, marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:51 AM To: Roland van Oorschot; Langsman, Marc Cc: '313' Subject: Re: Re: (313) 313 on DVD ? This October Jeff Mills' The Exhibitionist DVD should be released. --- It has been postponed till January. John R. --- http://www.funxiun.com ..dark.elektronix. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: Re: (313) 313 on DVD ?
At 12:52 12-9-2003, Langsman, Marc wrote: awww :/ is this anything to do with the dvd/video stuff that jeff has been using whilst playing out ? From HouseBlogger.com ;-) Detroit techno DJ and producer Jeff Mills is to release a CD/DVD mix album in October this year [ed: January 2004], called 'The Exhibitionist'. The CD version of the release will feature extracts from his current set, as well as unreleased material, whilst the DVD version will include live footage, an interview, an Axis mix, a Purpose Maker mix, and a guest mix (to be announced). R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
RE: (313) Recommend...
I picked up Aphex Twin '26 remixes For Cash' from my local HMV I can recommend that. Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/09/2003 11:12:53 To: 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '313' 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: (313) Recommend... HMV used to sell the Derrick May MayDay mix, a must have if you've not already got it - also they'll probs have a fair bit of the DJ Kicks series [not sure whats still available but Ive been listening to the Stacey Pullen one recently which is really nice and deep]. Good luck with your quest to find some decent 313 in HMV !! peace, marc -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:39 AM To: '313' Subject: (313) Recommend... OKIve got a unwanted gift CD from HMV, its worth £16.99. I went last night on my way home and try to get a refund on it only to be told that I cant have one (ill miss out the rest of the conversation, but I wasn't happy) All I can do is do a swap for another CD. So somewhat irate I looked around but couldn't find anything in the 10 mins I had before they shut. Planning on going again later...any recommendations for me that I can pick from the somewhat non specailist HMV Ps no looped bangers please :) On heavy rotation atm are the Emoticon Sampler, The Irma Soul in Motion comp and anything on Archive. So Deep Techno. Thanks In Advance. Rav -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
(313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
Sorry for the off topic post, but I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these two mixers. I'm undecided whether to go for Pioneer DJM 500 with built in FX, or the Allen Heath Xone:32 which I've heard is more durable and has a much better sound. If anyone has used either of these and has any advice before I go and check them out, it would be appreciated. Please reply off list. Cheers Gary
RE: (313) Recommend...
A quick look at the web site has shown up Dj 3000 - Somewhere In Detroit: Vol1 Cant go wrong with this one. I've been digging the AFX mixes for cash also. Regards, Quest -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2003 10:39 AM To: '313' Subject: (313) Recommend... OKIve got a unwanted gift CD from HMV, its worth £16.99. I went last night on my way home and try to get a refund on it only to be told that I cant have one (ill miss out the rest of the conversation, but I wasn't happy) All I can do is do a swap for another CD. So somewhat irate I looked around but couldn't find anything in the 10 mins I had before they shut. Planning on going again later...any recommendations for me that I can pick from the somewhat non specailist HMV Ps no looped bangers please :) On heavy rotation atm are the Emoticon Sampler, The Irma Soul in Motion comp and anything on Archive. So Deep Techno. Thanks In Advance. Rav
RE: (313) Recommend...
Quest Pond wrote on Fri, 12 Sep 2003 about following: I've been digging the AFX mixes for cash also. shame they had to cut at the heart of it all to half of it's original length. it's actually over 7 minutes long. best track for me on that comp still. sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
RE: (313) Recommend...
Thanks for all the hints. I came back with Plaid - Parts in The Post on Peacefrog. Rav -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2003 10:39 To: '313' Subject: (313) Recommend... OKIve got a unwanted gift CD from HMV, its worth £16.99. I went last night on my way home and try to get a refund on it only to be told that I cant have one (ill miss out the rest of the conversation, but I wasn't happy) All I can do is do a swap for another CD. So somewhat irate I looked around but couldn't find anything in the 10 mins I had before they shut. Planning on going again later...any recommendations for me that I can pick from the somewhat non specailist HMV Ps no looped bangers please :) On heavy rotation atm are the Emoticon Sampler, The Irma Soul in Motion comp and anything on Archive. So Deep Techno. Thanks In Advance. Rav
(313) new ?
picked up the pole - pole lp today..and i got to say its v nice... will definitely seek out some other stuff.. any recommendations and plastikman - disconnected. dont really need to go into this do i. 3 tracks from the lp i beleive..
(313) johnny cash
johnny passed on last night. -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
Personally I'd go for the Allen Heath any day - I'm planning to buy one myself next month. The build and sound quality is much better than the Pioneer, and the Pioneer effects get 'gimmicky' and overused quite quickly. I still quite like using a Pioneer in a club situation where hi-fi sound quality isn't the top priority, and it's easy to use, but the AH just sounds better - and for home use that's much more important... Cheers, Tom Sorry for the off topic post, but I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these two mixers. I'm undecided whether to go for Pioneer DJM 500 with built in FX, or the Allen Heath Xone:32 which I've heard is more durable and has a much better sound. If anyone has used either of these and has any advice before I go and check them out, it would be appreciated. Please reply off list. Cheers Gary
RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
I'm in love with my Xone:32 as are all the other dj's that come over to use it from time to time for my after-parties. Top Pick!! The filters and EQ's cannot be beat. -Pete -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:05 AM To: Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 Personally I'd go for the Allen Heath any day - I'm planning to buy one myself next month. The build and sound quality is much better than the Pioneer, and the Pioneer effects get 'gimmicky' and overused quite quickly. I still quite like using a Pioneer in a club situation where hi-fi sound quality isn't the top priority, and it's easy to use, but the AH just sounds better - and for home use that's much more important... Cheers, Tom Sorry for the off topic post, but I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these two mixers. I'm undecided whether to go for Pioneer DJM 500 with built in FX, or the Allen Heath Xone:32 which I've heard is more durable and has a much better sound. If anyone has used either of these and has any advice before I go and check them out, it would be appreciated. Please reply off list. Cheers Gary
RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
why oh why are the gains on the back panel ?!?!?! Yeah Im sorry this mixers just too good to put into production - its gonna blow the pants of other manufacturers so we're gonna need to come up with some ridiculous flaw to pull it down a peg :/ peace, marc -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:08 PM To: 'Tom Churchill'; Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 I'm in love with my Xone:32 as are all the other dj's that come over to use it from time to time for my after-parties. Top Pick!! The filters and EQ's cannot be beat. -Pete -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:05 AM To: Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 Personally I'd go for the Allen Heath any day - I'm planning to buy one myself next month. The build and sound quality is much better than the Pioneer, and the Pioneer effects get 'gimmicky' and overused quite quickly. I still quite like using a Pioneer in a club situation where hi-fi sound quality isn't the top priority, and it's easy to use, but the AH just sounds better - and for home use that's much more important... Cheers, Tom Sorry for the off topic post, but I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these two mixers. I'm undecided whether to go for Pioneer DJM 500 with built in FX, or the Allen Heath Xone:32 which I've heard is more durable and has a much better sound. If anyone has used either of these and has any advice before I go and check them out, it would be appreciated. Please reply off list. Cheers Gary -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
There have been a few complaints about that but to me it's pretty damn intuitive, and if you don't discover them yourself once someone points 'em out they're easy to adjust and get used to. Why waste space on the front UI for something that isn't used *that* often? -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:34 AM To: Grammenos, Peter; 'Tom Churchill'; Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 why oh why are the gains on the back panel ?!?!?! Yeah Im sorry this mixers just too good to put into production - its gonna blow the pants of other manufacturers so we're gonna need to come up with some ridiculous flaw to pull it down a peg :/ peace, marc -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:08 PM To: 'Tom Churchill'; Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 I'm in love with my Xone:32 as are all the other dj's that come over to use it from time to time for my after-parties. Top Pick!! The filters and EQ's cannot be beat. -Pete -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:05 AM To: Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 Personally I'd go for the Allen Heath any day - I'm planning to buy one myself next month. The build and sound quality is much better than the Pioneer, and the Pioneer effects get 'gimmicky' and overused quite quickly. I still quite like using a Pioneer in a club situation where hi-fi sound quality isn't the top priority, and it's easy to use, but the AH just sounds better - and for home use that's much more important... Cheers, Tom Sorry for the off topic post, but I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these two mixers. I'm undecided whether to go for Pioneer DJM 500 with built in FX, or the Allen Heath Xone:32 which I've heard is more durable and has a much better sound. If anyone has used either of these and has any advice before I go and check them out, it would be appreciated. Please reply off list. Cheers Gary -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) C.D. Boycott.
Thanks a lot Michael Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Michael Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:59 AM To: Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org; Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) C.D. Boycott. Very informative site http://www.boycott-riaa.com/ Mike -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:13 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org; Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) C.D. Boycott. I already have people wanting to put there name on a list .:) I love it,,BUT actually what I would like to do, Is to send a very informative e-mail including what the RIAA is doing and their Justification and Why as consumers we shouldn't alow it. And then set a date where we would stop purchasing c.d.s. We then can either send the e-mail to all of our friends and/or start small boycotts within our individual cities. Also we will send a copy to the RIAA with our intentions spelled out. I will defintetly start it here in Charlotte N.C. and to people I know through e-mail. If you feel that the RIAA is justified, then that's o.k. No one forces a boycott. But I just believe if that 30% c.d.sales drops to 40% or even 50% things will change. Now I heard the riaa was going to stop it anyway because of the counter-suit. But I can't find where that is actually a fact. CNN and I think Mixmag reported it. But the head of the RIAA has not made an official announcement saying the same thing. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:59 AM To: Ploegmakers, Joost; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers. Exactly MY point!! Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA I think I saw David Bowie on TV the other day saying something like: you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers. I thought that was so spot on! it's all getting totally rediculous. Joost -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 15:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jurren baars Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott until this stuff stops. If they think a thirty percent drop is bad what if just 10% of the people we contacted through e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? That's a lot of people. And the sales would drop even more. I hate for the artist to be in the middle of this, but then maybe more of them would step up also. I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott that may have already started. I would need all the information,,i.e. facts,,rules and everything to send to people so they can make an intelkligent decision themselves. Does anyone know of where I can get the information behind the lawsuits? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM To: jurren baars Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had bought a CD from each of them - and then does that affect their chart position? I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately (that I've noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking out against what the RIAA is doing? I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the game plan, honest!). MEK jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org mail.comcc: Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA 09/10/03 04:31 PM the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=3399602 some people
RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
my only complaint about the Xzone is it physical set up. i have used one twice and the were the channel gains are at is dumb imo they are on the back face plate. there were also no kills, which for sucked, i was playing electro both times and really wanted kills. but for not having the scratch mixer features the volume curves on the channels was like a scratch mixer. but having saying this once i got used to the mixer i know i would love it. my problem with the djm 500 or 600 i they are cheaply built. they dont sound all that bad. they get fuzzy in the high end, i suspect cheap pre-amps. but if you sre going to spend that much cash you should get something that will last. i bought a stanton sk-2f it's very clean sounding straight forward 2 ch, 3 band ch eq's, assingable curve on the cross-fade and ch faders. balanced and rca outs. i've never had a problem with mine, but i had a friend who had problems with his. i think he beat it to hell though, he loaned it to everyone on earth and was/is a fader masher. i won't let him use mine. so i sent two hundred dollars and it is very clean sounding, cleaner then a dmj 500, if it breaks it will meet the trash and i will get a new one. scotto lansing, mi plaztikjezuz.com
RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
There have been a few complaints about that but to me it's pretty damn intuitive, and if you don't discover them yourself once someone points 'em out they're easy to adjust and get used to. = not really intuitive at all then ;) I dunno - they could have gone the whole hog and put the xfader on the side panel just for laughs too :] Why waste space on the front UI for something that isn't used *that* often? u don't use gains *that often* How do you maintain a consistent level thru your mixes ? Surely the gains are used far more often than the aux sends which are handily located in there place. I reckon if I had a zone I open it up and swap the aux/gains around. peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
Wich mixer is the most durable, the DJM 600 (or 500) or the Xone32? The knobs on my DJM600 are starting to come loose. And when I turn them, sometimes I hear some noise in my speakers. Cheers, Maarten
RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
There have been a few complaints about that but to me it's pretty damn intuitive, and if you don't discover them yourself once someone points 'em out they're easy to adjust and get used to. = not really intuitive at all then ;) PG Well for me they were and that's all that matters ;) u don't use gains *that often* How do you maintain a consistent level thru your mixes ? Surely the gains are used far more often than the aux sends which are handily located in there place. I reckon if I had a zone I open it up and swap the aux/gains around. PG Not on every record, no I don't adjust the gains, so that's not as often as everything else I use on the front ( minus the aux ) . Totally agree about the aux gains, you could always wire the Aux outputs in the back into your main stereo mix though ;)
Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
Hi all, What about Behringer DJX-700 mixer? It is half the price with the same effects. Am planning to get that when i get some cash. That mixer looks like value for money. Regards, Collin. - Original Message - From: Gary Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 Sorry for the off topic post, but I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these two mixers. I'm undecided whether to go for Pioneer DJM 500 with built in FX, or the Allen Heath Xone:32 which I've heard is more durable and has a much better sound. If anyone has used either of these and has any advice before I go and check them out, it would be appreciated. Please reply off list. Cheers Gary
RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
aye fair enough - its just a shame...Im still in search of that *perfect* mixer but theres always at least one fundamental flaw with all of the damned things :( Im hoping the new technics and new pioneers might get closer to that utopia ! [reminds me I really need to do some work on that generic mixer idea...] peace, marc -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:02 PM To: 'Langsman, Marc'; 'Tom Churchill'; Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 There have been a few complaints about that but to me it's pretty damn intuitive, and if you don't discover them yourself once someone points 'em out they're easy to adjust and get used to. = not really intuitive at all then ;) PG Well for me they were and that's all that matters ;) u don't use gains *that often* How do you maintain a consistent level thru your mixes ? Surely the gains are used far more often than the aux sends which are handily located in there place. I reckon if I had a zone I open it up and swap the aux/gains around. PG Not on every record, no I don't adjust the gains, so that's not as PG often as everything else I use on the front ( minus the aux ) . Totally agree about the aux gains, you could always wire the Aux outputs in the back into your main stereo mix though ;) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
I used the behringer at plasa briefly and it sounded a bit dodgy [Im assuming that's the one that the spiting image of the pioneer? ] - Im not sure if that was because of the audio source of headphones connected to the thing though. I'd be interetsed to hear opinions on the behringers actually as a friend is looking at the 200 for his 1st mixer and it looks like really good value [115GPB and it has full VCA, xfader curve, curve adjust on verts, -32db kills, hamster etc etc] peace, marc -Original Message- From: Collin Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:30 PM To: Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 Hi all, What about Behringer DJX-700 mixer? It is half the price with the same effects. Am planning to get that when i get some cash. That mixer looks like value for money. Regards, Collin. - Original Message - From: Gary Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 Sorry for the off topic post, but I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these two mixers. I'm undecided whether to go for Pioneer DJM 500 with built in FX, or the Allen Heath Xone:32 which I've heard is more durable and has a much better sound. If anyone has used either of these and has any advice before I go and check them out, it would be appreciated. Please reply off list. Cheers Gary -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
In my opinion Behringer mixers aren't that great. I have no experience with the dj mixers but I do have a MX2642A Eurorack for my studio set up and after only 2 months of use the eq's got noisy. I have had it for 2.5 years now and it appears that the main and bus outputs are going out But for the price I paid I cant complain too much. (I probably got what I paid for, its not a mackie D8b or anything) But... Im wondering why no one has mentioned the Tascam X-9 DJ mixer... Looks like a DJM KILLER to me! http://www.tascam.com/products/product_information.php?product_id=3 too expensive for me right now but I have been drooling over this thing for a while. Mike -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:35 AM To: 'Collin Chen'; Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 I used the behringer at plasa briefly and it sounded a bit dodgy [Im assuming that's the one that the spiting image of the pioneer? ] - Im not sure if that was because of the audio source of headphones connected to the thing though. I'd be interetsed to hear opinions on the behringers actually as a friend is looking at the 200 for his 1st mixer and it looks like really good value [115GPB and it has full VCA, xfader curve, curve adjust on verts, -32db kills, hamster etc etc] peace, marc -Original Message- From: Collin Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:30 PM To: Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 Hi all, What about Behringer DJX-700 mixer? It is half the price with the same effects. Am planning to get that when i get some cash. That mixer looks like value for money. Regards, Collin. - Original Message - From: Gary Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 Sorry for the off topic post, but I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these two mixers. I'm undecided whether to go for Pioneer DJM 500 with built in FX, or the Allen Heath Xone:32 which I've heard is more durable and has a much better sound. If anyone has used either of these and has any advice before I go and check them out, it would be appreciated. Please reply off list. Cheers Gary -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) Recommend...
Future Sounds of Jazz vol 3 (I think that's the new one - comes with little 3D glasses) - got eveything from jazzy techno to deep techno it's on Compost MEK Mann, Ravinder [CCS] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: Subject: (313) Recommend... 09/12/03 04:38 AM OKIve got a unwanted gift CD from HMV, its worth £16.99. I went last night on my way home and try to get a refund on it only to be told that I cant have one (ill miss out the rest of the conversation, but I wasn't happy) All I can do is do a swap for another CD. So somewhat irate I looked around but couldn't find anything in the 10 mins I had before they shut. Planning on going again later...any recommendations for me that I can pick from the somewhat non specailist HMV Ps no looped bangers please :) On heavy rotation atm are the Emoticon Sampler, The Irma Soul in Motion comp and anything on Archive. So Deep Techno. Thanks In Advance. Rav
Re: (313) Black Holes Love Bass
well the funny part about is that there is no full proof of ' black material' so if there is no 'black material' exists than there would be no black holes, if i'm correct (I would like to take a different point of view of a black hole btw instead of looking at it from earth) ah whatever if they exist and hum bass well that's cool I would love if they would humm like the red planets we know ;) ah well RAW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: (313) Black Holes Love Bass http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/09/10/blackhole.music.reut/index.html Black hole hums deepest note ever detected Wednesday, September 10, 2003 Posted: 1:51 PM EDT (1751 GMT) WASHINGTON, Sept 9 (Reuters) -- Big black holes sing bass. One particularly monstrous black hole has probably been humming B flat for billions of years, but at a pitch no human could hear, let alone sing, astronomers said this week. The intensity of the sound is comparable to human speech, said Andrew Fabian of the Institute of Astronomy at Cambridge, England. But the pitch of the sound is about 57 octaves below middle C, roughly the middle of a standard piano keyboard. This is far, far deeper than humans can hear, the researchers said, and they believe it is the deepest note ever detected in the universe. The sound waves are emanating from the Perseus Cluster, a giant clump of galaxies some 250 million light-years from Earth. A light-year is about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion km), the distance light travels in a year. Fabian and his colleagues used NASA's orbiting Chandra X-Ray Observatory to investigate X-rays coming from the cluster's heart. Researchers presumed that a supermassive black hole, with perhaps 2.5 billion times the mass of our sun, lay there, and the activity around the center bolstered this assumption. Black holes are powerful matter-sucking drains in space, and astronomers believe most galaxies, including our own Milky Way, may contain black holes at their centers. Black holes have not been directly observed, because their gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape it. Making waves So researchers have concentrated on what happens around the edges of black holes, just before matter is pulled in. When scientists trained the Chandra observatory on the center of Perseus last year, they saw concentric ripples in the cosmic gas that fills the space between the galaxies in the cluster. We're dealing with enormous scales here, Fabian said in a telephone interview. The size of these ripples is 30,000 light-years. Fabian said the ripples were caused by the rhythmic squeezing and heating of the cosmic gas by the intense gravitational pressure of the jumble of galaxies packed together in the cluster. As the black hole pulls material in, he said, it also creates jets of material shooting out above and below it, and it is these powerful jets that create the pressure that creates the sound waves. To scientists, he said, pressure ripples equate to sound waves. By calculating how far apart the ripples were, and how fast sound might travel there, the team of researchers determined the musical note of the sound. Fabian said the notion of singing black holes might well be extrapolated to other galaxies, but not necessarily to the Milky Way. Chandra has looked at X-ray emissions from the Milky Way's center, and astronomers believe there is a black hole there, but because it is a young, rambunctious galaxy with lots of activity at its heart, this may interfere with any note our black hole might sing, Fabian said.
Re: (313) Recommend...
On 9/12/03 12:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Future Sounds of Jazz vol 3 (I think that's the new one - comes with little 3D glasses) - got eveything from jazzy techno to deep techno it's on Compost The latest is vol. 9, with the glasses. I've not heard it yet, but the series overall is quite nice. -- Im
(313) Looking for a record any ideas?
I'm looking for Blow Your House Down by A Guy Called Gerald, but then again who isn't hehe. Any ideas on where one might be floating around would be greatly appreciated. I've been looking for months now, and have had no luck as of yet. In case a catalog number would help - LD 8925. I'm about to give up, seems every copy of this record has a happy home. Checked the usuals like musicstack and gemm and ebay. Any help is appreciated -Andy
Re: (313) Looking for a record any ideas?
give dance music finder a shot (http://www.dmf.co.uk/), but be careful, i ordered a record from them in mid-june and still haven't seen it (and they're giving me the runaround). On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Andrew James Hegler wrote: I'm looking for Blow Your House Down by A Guy Called Gerald, but then again who isn't hehe. Any ideas on where one might be floating around would be greatly appreciated. I've been looking for months now, and have had no luck as of yet. In case a catalog number would help - LD 8925. I'm about to give up, seems every copy of this record has a happy home. Checked the usuals like musicstack and gemm and ebay. Any help is appreciated -Andy
Re: (313) Recommend...
get the new Luciano live cd. his rhythms are so original. hes got this italian/spanish style in some of his music. From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Recommend... Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:38:51 +0100 OKIve got a unwanted gift CD from HMV, its worth £16.99. I went last night on my way home and try to get a refund on it only to be told that I cant have one (ill miss out the rest of the conversation, but I wasn't happy) All I can do is do a swap for another CD. So somewhat irate I looked around but couldn't find anything in the 10 mins I had before they shut. Planning on going again later...any recommendations for me that I can pick from the somewhat non specailist HMV Ps no looped bangers please :) On heavy rotation atm are the Emoticon Sampler, The Irma Soul in Motion comp and anything on Archive. So Deep Techno. Thanks In Advance. Rav _ Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com
Re: (313) Recommend...
I haven't heard the CD yet but I'm loving the last couple of twelves of his I picked up - 'Alpine Rocket' with Mat Johnson on Perlon, and 'Orange Mistake' with Quennum on Cadenza... He has a really unique sound, some great rhythms - one of the few glitchy/micro house producers to successfully combine good grooves and dancefloor dynamics with mad technical wizardry... Cheers, Tom get the new Luciano live cd. his rhythms are so original. hes got this italian/spanish style in some of his music.
RE: (313) Recommend...
Make sure you get this one - CABO SAN ROQUE VS LUCIANO - Calypso One of my fav's of his is - LUCIANO CAPRICCIOSA on BRUCHSTUECKE This guy can't do wrong in my book ;) =Pete -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:36 PM To: ryan burns; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Recommend... I haven't heard the CD yet but I'm loving the last couple of twelves of his I picked up - 'Alpine Rocket' with Mat Johnson on Perlon, and 'Orange Mistake' with Quennum on Cadenza... He has a really unique sound, some great rhythms - one of the few glitchy/micro house producers to successfully combine good grooves and dancefloor dynamics with mad technical wizardry... Cheers, Tom get the new Luciano live cd. his rhythms are so original. hes got this italian/spanish style in some of his music.
RE: (313) Recommend...
And I'll say again - check out 7-Hurtz Electroleum www.outputrecordings.com MEK Grammenos, Peter To: 'Tom Churchill' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], ryan burns s.com[EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org cc: 09/12/03 01:40 PMSubject: RE: (313) Recommend... Make sure you get this one - CABO SAN ROQUE VS LUCIANO - Calypso One of my fav's of his is - LUCIANO CAPRICCIOSA on BRUCHSTUECKE This guy can't do wrong in my book ;) =Pete -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:36 PM To: ryan burns; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Recommend... I haven't heard the CD yet but I'm loving the last couple of twelves of his I picked up - 'Alpine Rocket' with Mat Johnson on Perlon, and 'Orange Mistake' with Quennum on Cadenza... He has a really unique sound, some great rhythms - one of the few glitchy/micro house producers to successfully combine good grooves and dancefloor dynamics with mad technical wizardry... Cheers, Tom get the new Luciano live cd. his rhythms are so original. hes got this italian/spanish style in some of his music.
RE: (313) Recommend...
Here's their bio: A dynamic duo, bound by a mutual love of badass beats, Jean Jacques Perry, melodic loopiness andJohn Carpenter - this is 7-Hurtz. They're probably best known for their anthemic club tracks Beatbox and Stokers Motor which tore up dancefloors on release in 2000. Killer riffs, electro stylings and sinister beats have made them classics of the Electro genre. It's not surprising that 7-Hurtz's work is of such quality when you take a peep at the pair's artistic pedigrees - Ben Cowan was a dancer with contemporary dance outfits such as Ricochet and Bedlam, with whom he had travelled the European festival circuit. In addition to this, he was also a member of the LoWilliams Band, which you may not have heard of, but ended up supporting George Clinton at the Phoenix Festival. The LoWilliams Band were signed to a small indie label, Orange Egg. The boss was a dapper young-man-about-town, Brand New heavies founder Lascelles Gordon. When not administering his fledgling label, Gordon kept himself busy as a session musician for the likes of The Sandals, Beth Orton and the notorious Campag Velocet. His club night Helter Stupid was the destination of choice for Londoners seeking offal sewage for the ears. Amazingly, he managed to squeeze in a solo music career into this hectic lifestyle, a project called Rock Oil. It was for the aforementioned project that Lascelles requested Ben's help with a couple of tracks. The experiment proved successful - and before long, our two chums were soon making music, experimenting with a flood of ideas, theories and notions which came together to create the unique sound of 7-Hurtz. When the pair initialised the collaboration, they had some definite ideas on what they were trying to achieve, as Ben explains. We were interested in doing electronic music that involved improvisation,found sound, semi-generative, visually stimulated work that moved away from the music we had been doing. We also wanted to make the music in a way that meant the processes of writing, playing and recording converged so that we could do it ourselves A tape made its way to a graphic designer Lascelles knew. The designer had recently set up Output and was enthused enough by the pairs' ideas to release Beatbox. Nice one, Trevor! Audiophiliac, a dark propulsive journey through funk/electro/hip hop and 303/808 cultures, received unanimous critical acclaim, with tracks such as Beatbox and Stokers Motor landing like grenades on the listening public. The bands myriad influences - the retro-futuristic sounds, the John Carpenter Assault On Precinct 13 obsessions and Hashim-style bleakness all contributed to a sound that revitalized and redefined the Electro scene. 7-Hurtz enthusiastically set to work on the follow up, due out soon. Meanwhile, Lascelles is continuing his session work, cameos with old muckers like Velocet and Beth Orton. He also runs a monthly night at Hoxton hotspot Herbal, unambiguously named Warm Leatherette. Meanwhile, Ben's not staying in watching Brookside. He's just completed a Masters degree, is looking forward to doing 7-Hurtz live, and is plotting generative/heuristic performances and projects. Go, boy! Whatever happens next, you can bet your granny 7-Hurtz will take you on a f*cked-up twisted trip to the heart of the beat...and beyond Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org, ryan burns 09/12/03 02:08 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Tom Churchill' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Recommend... And I'll say again - check out 7-Hurtz Electroleum www.outputrecordings.com MEK Grammenos, Peter To: 'Tom Churchill' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], ryan burns s.com[EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org cc: 09/12/03 01:40 PMSubject: RE: (313) Recommend... Make sure you get this one - CABO SAN ROQUE VS LUCIANO - Calypso One of my fav's of his is - LUCIANO CAPRICCIOSA on BRUCHSTUECKE This guy can't do wrong in my book ;) =Pete -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:36 PM To: ryan burns; 313 Subject: Re: (313)
Re: (313) Recommend...
I haven't heard the CD yet but I'm loving the last couple of twelves of his I picked up - 'Alpine Rocket' with Mat Johnson on Perlon, and 'Orange Mistake' with Quennum on Cadenza... there is a different matt johnson that is rockin. forget th elabel but it is american dom. or at least the price was only $6 if it was an import.
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there is a different matt johnson that is rockin. forget th elabel but it is american dom. or at least the price was only $6 if it was an import. Perhaps the Typerope EP on It Is What It Is? Very nice record... Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org
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yea thats it i'm home now and can look. the b-side is my fav, but the slight acid feel of the a-side is very nice. i also got the phil parnell on perlon, has a akufen feel to it, i must say i like this one is very groovy. i would also suggest the k-led - detroit city on force inc. it has a uhmm; a very detroit feel to it. (lol) kinda reminds me of octive one or something on kms. you cannot go wrong in buying this! i just wish the saunderson synth sound was a little louder in the mix, and the vox a little less. but its still a groovy tune and worth the cash imo. -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com - Original Message - From: Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: Re: (313) Recommend... there is a different matt johnson that is rockin. forget th elabel but it is american dom. or at least the price was only $6 if it was an import. Perhaps the Typerope EP on It Is What It Is? Very nice record... Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org
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After months of looking for Stacey Pullen's DJ Kicks I found it at the HMV in Paris- 1997. That was pretty much the only good thing about Paris. On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote: HMV used to sell the Derrick May MayDay mix, a must have if you've not already got it - also they'll probs have a fair bit of the DJ Kicks series [not sure whats still available but Ive been listening to the Stacey Pullen one recently which is really nice and deep]. Good luck with your quest to find some decent 313 in HMV !! peace, marc -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:39 AM To: '313' Subject: (313) Recommend... OKIve got a unwanted gift CD from HMV, its worth £16.99. I went last night on my way home and try to get a refund on it only to be told that I cant have one (ill miss out the rest of the conversation, but I wasn't happy) All I can do is do a swap for another CD. So somewhat irate I looked around but couldn't find anything in the 10 mins I had before they shut. Planning on going again later...any recommendations for me that I can pick from the somewhat non specailist HMV Ps no looped bangers please :) On heavy rotation atm are the Emoticon Sampler, The Irma Soul in Motion comp and anything on Archive. So Deep Techno. Thanks In Advance. Rav -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
I use the gains for EVERY mixthat's pretty often. We do all covet your mixer though Pete;-) - Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Langsman, Marc' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Tom Churchill' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gary Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:41 AM Subject: RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 There have been a few complaints about that but to me it's pretty damn intuitive, and if you don't discover them yourself once someone points 'em out they're easy to adjust and get used to. Why waste space on the front UI for something that isn't used *that* often? -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:34 AM To: Grammenos, Peter; 'Tom Churchill'; Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 why oh why are the gains on the back panel ?!?!?! Yeah Im sorry this mixers just too good to put into production - its gonna blow the pants of other manufacturers so we're gonna need to come up with some ridiculous flaw to pull it down a peg :/ peace, marc -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:08 PM To: 'Tom Churchill'; Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 I'm in love with my Xone:32 as are all the other dj's that come over to use it from time to time for my after-parties. Top Pick!! The filters and EQ's cannot be beat. -Pete -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:05 AM To: Gary Robinson; 313 Subject: Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 Personally I'd go for the Allen Heath any day - I'm planning to buy one myself next month. The build and sound quality is much better than the Pioneer, and the Pioneer effects get 'gimmicky' and overused quite quickly. I still quite like using a Pioneer in a club situation where hi-fi sound quality isn't the top priority, and it's easy to use, but the AH just sounds better - and for home use that's much more important... Cheers, Tom Sorry for the off topic post, but I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these two mixers. I'm undecided whether to go for Pioneer DJM 500 with built in FX, or the Allen Heath Xone:32 which I've heard is more durable and has a much better sound. If anyone has used either of these and has any advice before I go and check them out, it would be appreciated. Please reply off list. Cheers Gary -- -- -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
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Here's my fave: luciano (feat. lea) - franky (bruchstücke) - Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tom Churchill' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:40 PM Subject: RE: (313) Recommend... Make sure you get this one - CABO SAN ROQUE VS LUCIANO - Calypso One of my fav's of his is - LUCIANO CAPRICCIOSA on BRUCHSTUECKE This guy can't do wrong in my book ;) =Pete -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:36 PM To: ryan burns; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Recommend... I haven't heard the CD yet but I'm loving the last couple of twelves of his I picked up - 'Alpine Rocket' with Mat Johnson on Perlon, and 'Orange Mistake' with Quennum on Cadenza... He has a really unique sound, some great rhythms - one of the few glitchy/micro house producers to successfully combine good grooves and dancefloor dynamics with mad technical wizardry... Cheers, Tom get the new Luciano live cd. his rhythms are so original. hes got this italian/spanish style in some of his music.
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Best DJKicks by far imoand one of my top 5 favorite mix CDs of all time - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:46 PM Subject: RE: (313) Recommend... After months of looking for Stacey Pullen's DJ Kicks I found it at the HMV in Paris- 1997. That was pretty much the only good thing about Paris. On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote: HMV used to sell the Derrick May MayDay mix, a must have if you've not already got it - also they'll probs have a fair bit of the DJ Kicks series [not sure whats still available but Ive been listening to the Stacey Pullen one recently which is really nice and deep]. Good luck with your quest to find some decent 313 in HMV !! peace, marc -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:39 AM To: '313' Subject: (313) Recommend... OKIve got a unwanted gift CD from HMV, its worth £16.99. I went last night on my way home and try to get a refund on it only to be told that I cant have one (ill miss out the rest of the conversation, but I wasn't happy) All I can do is do a swap for another CD. So somewhat irate I looked around but couldn't find anything in the 10 mins I had before they shut. Planning on going again later...any recommendations for me that I can pick from the somewhat non specailist HMV Ps no looped bangers please :) On heavy rotation atm are the Emoticon Sampler, The Irma Soul in Motion comp and anything on Archive. So Deep Techno. Thanks In Advance. Rav -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
Im hoping the new technics and new pioneers might get closer to that utopia ! The new Technics looks friggin' awesome
Re: (313) Black Holes Love Bass
Micheal, that is by far the best thing I've learned in a long time! What a fascinating proposition! Of course, these phenomena can't be in isolation, perhaps a deeper investigation of this can lead to mapping out the different frequencies that are available at different points in space, to eventually provide a kind of musical map of the universe! There's so many interesting angles from this, is this kind of thing not the essence of techno? Can't explain why, just feels like it. The music of the spheres Andrew PS. RAW, I don't recall black holes being anything to do with 'black material', fwiw you could be referring to 'dark matter', but that's a different phenomena to this, albeit related. http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/09/10/blackhole.music.reut/index.html Black hole hums deepest note ever detected Wednesday, September 10, 2003 Posted: 1:51 PM EDT (1751 GMT) WASHINGTON, Sept 9 (Reuters) -- Big black holes sing bass. One particularly monstrous black hole has probably been humming B flat for billions of years, but at a pitch no human could hear, let alone sing, astronomers said this week. The intensity of the sound is comparable to human speech, said Andrew Fabian of the Institute of Astronomy at Cambridge, England. But the pitch of the sound is about 57 octaves below middle C, roughly the middle of a standard piano keyboard. This is far, far deeper than humans can hear, the researchers said, and they believe it is the deepest note ever detected in the universe. The sound waves are emanating from the Perseus Cluster, a giant clump of galaxies some 250 million light-years from Earth. A light-year is about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion km), the distance light travels in a year. Fabian and his colleagues used NASA's orbiting Chandra X-Ray Observatory to investigate X-rays coming from the cluster's heart. Researchers presumed that a supermassive black hole, with perhaps 2.5 billion times the mass of our sun, lay there, and the activity around the center bolstered this assumption. Black holes are powerful matter-sucking drains in space, and astronomers believe most galaxies, including our own Milky Way, may contain black holes at their centers. Black holes have not been directly observed, because their gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape it. Making waves So researchers have concentrated on what happens around the edges of black holes, just before matter is pulled in. When scientists trained the Chandra observatory on the center of Perseus last year, they saw concentric ripples in the cosmic gas that fills the space between the galaxies in the cluster. We're dealing with enormous scales here, Fabian said in a telephone interview. The size of these ripples is 30,000 light-years. Fabian said the ripples were caused by the rhythmic squeezing and heating of the cosmic gas by the intense gravitational pressure of the jumble of galaxies packed together in the cluster. As the black hole pulls material in, he said, it also creates jets of material shooting out above and below it, and it is these powerful jets that create the pressure that creates the sound waves. To scientists, he said, pressure ripples equate to sound waves. By calculating how far apart the ripples were, and how fast sound might travel there, the team of researchers determined the musical note of the sound. Fabian said the notion of singing black holes might well be extrapolated to other galaxies, but not necessarily to the Milky Way. Chandra has looked at X-ray emissions from the Milky Way's center, and astronomers believe there is a black hole there, but because it is a young, rambunctious galaxy with lots of activity at its heart, this may interfere with any note our black hole might sing, Fabian said.
Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500
- Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:07 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT: Xone32 Vs DJM 500 I use the gains for EVERY mixthat's pretty often. We do all covet your mixer though Pete;-) Call me a weirdo, but I like the gains back there. Yes, it's weird at first, but with the fine amount of adjustment needed on gains, and the limited use they get in the mix (I mostly tune the gains in cue), it frees up needed space on the main console to get your grubby fingers between the EQs. If I have any criticism of the Xones, it's that there still isn't enough space between the EQ knobs to really get in there, but I'll make that sacrifice for the nice long volume faders. I think those faders are one of the best things about it. So smooth, clear and acurate. I've used the Pioneer probably as much if not more than I've used my AH, especially @ gigs, but I much prefer the AH 32 after living with it for 6 months. As everyone else has said, its sound, feel and tank-ness far outweigh any additional features other mixers provide. When shopping in March, I also considered the Red Sound Infader (with 3 band cross faders that are super fun), but apparently their durability is really questionable. I also had my eye on the Tascam X-9 for ages, because the features are wicked and it feels plenty solid, but ultimately I don't need all that crap. Get the Xone. It will treat you well. Tristan (who really doesn't like Vestax mixers) === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) What
- Original Message - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Phonopsia' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:48 AM Subject: RE: (313) What i'd love to hear a dj like this.too bad i can't make it to t-funktion. third wave djing! :) On that note, it was pointed out today that he was also using Ableton in addition to Final Scratch in parts of his sets. Not sure when - I didn't get a great look at the setup. I bet Liverpool is just kicking in right about now. :) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
