Re: (313) Trainspotting
Weird! That very film is playing right now on Channel 4 (UK). Trainspotter is an amusing derogatory term used to describe people who are more interested in the nuances and details of said pastime than the actual music itself- obsessions with labels, original pressings. catalogue numbers ad finitum. It comes from the act of Trainspotting- an actual hobby where train enthusiasts stand in train stations and record the numbers of different trains and their types and compare notes. I think most of us on the 313 could be described as trainspotters at one time or another :) Jason On 18 Jan 2004, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did the term trainspotting come from? I know there was a film - which I didn't see. What does it mean?
RE: (313) Trainspotting
sort of went with the i-spy series of books...man, what a waste of time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 19 January 2004 12:40 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Trainspotting it comes from people who spend their time standing by trainlines watching trains go past and writing down the train numbers or some other details. from what i can gather, it's popularity seems confined to the british isles. it's become a byword for pointless, obsessive behaviour. james www.jbucknell.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] om To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: (bcc: James Bucknell/ARD/AU/ReadersDigest) 18/01/04 11:27 Subject: Re: (313) Trainspotting PM Where did the term trainspotting come from? I know there was a film - which I didn't see. What does it mean?
(313) re: Saunderson/Disney
On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was watching Pixel Perfect today (a new made for tv movie on the disney channel), and I heard Saunderson's Forcefield (i think it was Forcefield) about 2/3 of the way through it, uncredited. I'm guessing because these songs are produced by independent labels it happens often? Yep. I remember hearing Metro Area's Piña in a Volvo radio commercial back in 2002. Pretty sure MG hasn't gotten anywhere chasing that one down. -d
RE: (313) Trainspotting
I still do that with my baseball cards -Original Message- From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Trainspotting Weird! That very film is playing right now on Channel 4 (UK). Trainspotter is an amusing derogatory term used to describe people who are more interested in the nuances and details of said pastime than the actual music itself- obsessions with labels, original pressings. catalogue numbers ad finitum. It comes from the act of Trainspotting- an actual hobby where train enthusiasts stand in train stations and record the numbers of different trains and their types and compare notes. I think most of us on the 313 could be described as trainspotters at one time or another :) Jason On 18 Jan 2004, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did the term trainspotting come from? I know there was a film - which I didn't see. What does it mean?
Re: (313) Trainspotting
In a message dated 1/18/04 6:39:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it comes from people who spend their time standing by trainlines watching trains go past and writing down the train numbers or some other details. from what i can gather, it's popularity seems confined to the british isles. it's become a byword for pointless, obsessive behaviour. Thanks for all the thoughtful replies. When I was a kid in Chicago (in the 1950s) I lived a block away from a very large RR yard. I would keep a notebook of the various RR companies and their freight cars and also private companies that had their own rolling stock - not the numbers - just the types of boxcars, tank cars, refers (that's refrigerated cars, not something you smoke).Some of them were very colorful. I mentioned this thread to my wife, who rides a commuter train to work every day. She said that some of the older passenger train cars have their own names like the General Sheridan or the Mountain View etc.She said that she looks at the names of the cars as they pass by. Another related point is that trains, at one point on our civilization, were the fastest way to get from point A to point B. The time-space thing. You see a lot of railroad imagery in early 20th century painting.Today it would be the airplane or the spaceship. WOW pointless, obsessive behavior sounds like me. mediadrome
(313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional Australia. Hmmm. PRESS RELEASE 17.01.04 Mischief Presents Theo Parrish [Detroit] Australian Tour Dates FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH 2004 - MELBOURNE MISCHIEF SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH 2004 - SYDNEY MISCHIEF FRIDAY MARCH 5TH 2004- NEWCASTLE MARCH 07th 2004 - ADELAIDE MARCH 10th - ADELAIDE as part of the WOMAD festival YO' THEO PARRISH (DETROIT'S THIRD GENERATION), DOG !! Mischief has it's tail all fluffed up with excitement to announce, that for the FIRST time ever,THEO PARRISH (DETROIT), one of the world's most mysterious music makers is bringing his culturally rich record box to Australia. At last !!! Love of the music should be the driving force of any producer, performer or DJ. Everything else stems from that core, that love. With that love, sampling can become a tribute; An expansion on ideas long forgotten, reconstruction, collage. Using the same understanding openly and respectfully can turn DJing into a spiritual participation. It can turn a few hours of selection into essential history; Necessary listening through movement. - Theo Parrish This personal philosophy gives shape and direction to the distinctive sounds that are created by Theo Parrish. Venue and Local support to be announced soon! What is this mischief all about ? Mischief is the unique pairing of the creative forces behind Melbourne's cult nightclub honkytonks: Michael Delany, Ben Ford, and Little Beastie's Angela Maison and Ant J Steep. The first Mischief events we will be hosting are on the following dates around Australia; February 27th in Melbourne February 28th in Sydney
(313) F-Comm/SOMA in Sydney was Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
Cyclone Wehner wrote: Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I'm also hearing that Soma and F-Communications are starting a monthly night in Sydney at the Bourbon. Does anyone know about it? Is it something to do with the Mischief crew? Apparently this is coming up: February - AlexKid and Hipp-e March - Llorca and Master H April - Funk D'Void and The Youngsters Live Sometime - SLAM and Laurent Garnier Live
Re: (313) F-Comm/SOMA in Sydney was Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I'm also hearing that Soma and F-Communications are starting a monthly night in Sydney at the Bourbon. Does anyone know about it? Is it something to do with the Mischief crew? Apparently this is coming up: February - AlexKid and Hipp-e March - Llorca and Master H April - Funk D'Void and The Youngsters Live Sometime - SLAM and Laurent Garnier Live Wow, that's good! Nah, I'd know if it were Mischief, they are my peepz. Theo is the first Mischief international. I do know of Laurent rumours, but that's Hardware. It's probably Richie McNeill (Melb) behind that. He's talked of bringing Laurent back for a while. Wow, I hope he's doing that. I think I'll ring him right now. ;)
Re: (313) Trainspotting
At 23:40 + 1/18/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's popularity seems confined to the british isles. Not really. I have several friends who are obsessed with the NYC subway system. I'm awfully fond of German trainspotters for taking pictures of train cars made by Mindener Kreisbahnen GmbH, who puts big MKB logos on their rolling stock. :) -- Be sure and unplug Baby Jesus [EMAIL PROTECTED] before his head melts! AIM:pr0j2501 http://www.dirty.org/~mkb Matt Kane's Brain
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
There's just been a Perth date added for this too - March 12th. -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 2:44 PM Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional Australia. Hmmm. PRESS RELEASE 17.01.04 Mischief Presents Theo Parrish [Detroit] Australian Tour Dates FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH 2004 - MELBOURNE MISCHIEF SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH 2004 - SYDNEY MISCHIEF FRIDAY MARCH 5TH 2004- NEWCASTLE MARCH 07th 2004 - ADELAIDE MARCH 10th - ADELAIDE as part of the WOMAD festival YO' THEO PARRISH (DETROIT'S THIRD GENERATION), DOG !! Mischief has it's tail all fluffed up with excitement to announce, that for the FIRST time ever,THEO PARRISH (DETROIT), one of the world's most mysterious music makers is bringing his culturally rich record box to Australia. At last !!! Love of the music should be the driving force of any producer, performer or DJ. Everything else stems from that core, that love. With that love, sampling can become a tribute; An expansion on ideas long forgotten, reconstruction, collage. Using the same understanding openly and respectfully can turn DJing into a spiritual participation. It can turn a few hours of selection into essential history; Necessary listening through movement. - Theo Parrish This personal philosophy gives shape and direction to the distinctive sounds that are created by Theo Parrish. Venue and Local support to be announced soon! What is this mischief all about ? Mischief is the unique pairing of the creative forces behind Melbourne's cult nightclub honkytonks: Michael Delany, Ben Ford, and Little Beastie's Angela Maison and Ant J Steep. The first Mischief events we will be hosting are on the following dates around Australia; February 27th in Melbourne February 28th in Sydney
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
cool so its confirmed. I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time??? Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my excuse, maybe he'll play a fella dedication set... and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell as support;^) finally Sam On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional Australia. Hmmm. PRESS RELEASE 17.01.04 Mischief Presents Theo Parrish [Detroit] Australian Tour Dates FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH 2004 - MELBOURNE MISCHIEF SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH 2004 - SYDNEY MISCHIEF FRIDAY MARCH 5TH 2004- NEWCASTLE MARCH 07th 2004 - ADELAIDE MARCH 10th - ADELAIDE as part of the WOMAD festival YO' THEO PARRISH (DETROIT'S THIRD GENERATION), DOG !! Mischief has it's tail all fluffed up with excitement to announce, that for the FIRST time ever,THEO PARRISH (DETROIT), one of the world's most mysterious music makers is bringing his culturally rich record box to Australia. At last !!! Love of the music should be the driving force of any producer, performer or DJ. Everything else stems from that core, that love. With that love, sampling can become a tribute; An expansion on ideas long forgotten, reconstruction, collage. Using the same understanding openly and respectfully can turn DJing into a spiritual participation. It can turn a few hours of selection into essential history; Necessary listening through movement. - Theo Parrish This personal philosophy gives shape and direction to the distinctive sounds that are created by Theo Parrish. Venue and Local support to be announced soon! What is this mischief all about ? Mischief is the unique pairing of the creative forces behind Melbourne's cult nightclub honkytonks: Michael Delany, Ben Ford, and Little Beastie's Angela Maison and Ant J Steep. The first Mischief events we will be hosting are on the following dates around Australia; February 27th in Melbourne February 28th in Sydney -- Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub-sequence 2xx 98.3fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
How's about Rick Wilhite and Moodyman at the same time :-D Sam K wrote: cool so its confirmed. I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time??? Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my excuse, maybe he'll play a fella dedication set... and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell as support;^) finally Sam On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional Australia. Hmmm. PRESS RELEASE 17.01.04 Mischief Presents Theo Parrish [Detroit]
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
No Moodymann this time. Maybe cooler weather, don't want no girls fainting. ;) At least one of those other names are on a wishlist but you gotta build something like this slowly and carefully. It's very exciting. ;) -- From: Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 4:02 PM cool so its confirmed. I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time??? Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my excuse, maybe he'll play a fella dedication set... and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell as support;^) finally Sam On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional Australia. Hmmm. PRESS RELEASE 17.01.04 Mischief Presents Theo Parrish [Detroit] Australian Tour Dates FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH 2004 - MELBOURNE MISCHIEF SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH 2004 - SYDNEY MISCHIEF FRIDAY MARCH 5TH 2004- NEWCASTLE MARCH 07th 2004 - ADELAIDE MARCH 10th - ADELAIDE as part of the WOMAD festival YO' THEO PARRISH (DETROIT'S THIRD GENERATION), DOG !! Mischief has it's tail all fluffed up with excitement to announce, that for the FIRST time ever,THEO PARRISH (DETROIT), one of the world's most mysterious music makers is bringing his culturally rich record box to Australia. At last !!! Love of the music should be the driving force of any producer, performer or DJ. Everything else stems from that core, that love. With that love, sampling can become a tribute; An expansion on ideas long forgotten, reconstruction, collage. Using the same understanding openly and respectfully can turn DJing into a spiritual participation. It can turn a few hours of selection into essential history; Necessary listening through movement. - Theo Parrish This personal philosophy gives shape and direction to the distinctive sounds that are created by Theo Parrish. Venue and Local support to be announced soon! What is this mischief all about ? Mischief is the unique pairing of the creative forces behind Melbourne's cult nightclub honkytonks: Michael Delany, Ben Ford, and Little Beastie's Angela Maison and Ant J Steep. The first Mischief events we will be hosting are on the following dates around Australia; February 27th in Melbourne February 28th in Sydney -- Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub-sequence 2xx 98.3fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be
(313) Down low music..down?
is my computer screwed or is the Down Low website down? I havent been able to access it for a few days. sam -- Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub-sequence 2xx 98.3fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service.
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
He he, and Dave Angel drove through the desert to get to an Adelaide gig in a limo once. ;) -- From: Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 4:04 PM On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional Australia. Hmmm. Nah..Stacey and Derrick played in Canberra.hehe;^) -- Sam K [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub-sequence 2xx 98.3fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
That almost happened a few years ago when Laura Gavoor was looking after the guys. Of course those involved would love to pull it off again as a tribute to her as she put a lot of work into the tour. But it has to be done right at the right time so the artists are happy and well looked after and represented properly. I'm hopeful it will happen. Australia is a small market so you gotta take extra care. This Theo tour has taken ages so everything is right and it ties in with Japanese dates. But yeah there's a pretty impressive wishlist there. How's about Rick Wilhite and Moodyman at the same time :-D Sam K wrote: cool so its confirmed. I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time??? Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my excuse, maybe he'll play a fella dedication set... and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell as support;^) finally Sam On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional Australia. Hmmm. PRESS RELEASE 17.01.04 Mischief Presents Theo Parrish [Detroit]
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
Cyclone Wehner wrote: But yeah there's a pretty impressive wishlist there. Since we all get drip feed the good stuff over the course of the years and years, I reckon most punters (including myself) have a pretty impossible wishlist. LOL!
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
the dream lineup has happened before - theo parrish, rick wilhite, moodyman and larry heard all played at a party in detroit after demf 2. high point of my life, i think i even gave otto a hug. james www.jbucknell.com Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org ail.com.au cc: (bcc: James Bucknell/ARD/AU/ReadersDigest) Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates 19/01/04 04:55 AM How's about Rick Wilhite and Moodyman at the same time :-D Sam K wrote: cool so its confirmed. I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time??? Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my excuse, maybe he'll play a fella dedication set... and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell as support;^) finally Sam On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional Australia. Hmmm. PRESS RELEASE 17.01.04 Mischief Presents Theo Parrish [Detroit]
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
The difference is being half a world away makes things tougher to pull off. The so-called 'tyranny of distance'. Everybody would love to see it here, I know! -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 4:46 PM the dream lineup has happened before - theo parrish, rick wilhite, moodyman and larry heard all played at a party in detroit after demf 2. high point of my life, i think i even gave otto a hug. james www.jbucknell.com Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org ail.com.au cc: (bcc: James Bucknell/ARD/AU/ReadersDigest) Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates 19/01/04 04:55 AM How's about Rick Wilhite and Moodyman at the same time :-D Sam K wrote: cool so its confirmed. I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time??? Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my excuse, maybe he'll play a fella dedication set... and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell as support;^) finally Sam On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies. I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional Australia. Hmmm. PRESS RELEASE 17.01.04 Mischief Presents Theo Parrish [Detroit]
(313) Detroit Soul Questions
I recently bought the 1998 Davina CD Best Of Both Worlds on Loud and it's classy. I borrowed it back then but, while enjoying it, I didn't realise then that she had a Detroit connection. I think my fave cut is still the single So Good, which has a Mary J feel. I know she did some music with UR ages ago, but I wonder what she's doing now? I really think Loud failed Davina (and most of its small RB roster). Also, I saw a new (?) Norma Jean Bell track in store on the weekend, I think a remix, something like I'm The Realest Queen on a label with Chocolate in the title. I should have taken in more, but I was avoiding pushy sales staff when I'm broke! Anyone know anymore? Does anyone know what NJB has been working on lately? She was working on a new album two years ago on her own label. Also, someone posted some info on a new Moodymann album, which I've lost. If there is any press info, can someone forward it to me? That would rock. I finally heard the Amp Fiddler album at a friend's and it actually picks up where Mr Fiddler left off, very mellow. I love the title-track, and there was at least one smooth song co-written by Raphael Saadiq. It was very soulful - and RB oriented - the whole set. I understand the buzz. Also, I know Detroit being a small town *someone* here has to know this: when is the new Anita Baker album coming out?
Re: (313) Detroit Soul Questions
-- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I saw a new (?) Norma Jean Bell track in store on the weekend, I think a remix, something like I'm The Realest Queen on a label with Chocolate in the title. I should have taken in more, but I was avoiding pushy sales staff when I'm broke! Anyone know anymore? Does anyone know what NJB has been working on lately? She was working on a new album two years ago on her own label. dunno about new stuff, but that was probably the label funky chocolate which has been rereleasing rick wade tracks and will also be rereleasing other detroit house stuff. here's the discogs link for the release you saw: http://www.discogs.com/release/222794 i havent seen that one around though.. Also, someone posted some info on a new Moodymann album, which I've lost. If there is any press info, can someone forward it to me? That would rock. that was on the peacefrog website IIRC. I finally heard the Amp Fiddler album at a friend's and it actually picks up where Mr Fiddler left off, very mellow. I love the title-track, and there was at least one smooth song co-written by Raphael Saadiq. It was very soulful - and RB oriented - the whole set. I understand the buzz. i cant believe this still isnt out for real yet. how silly. great record. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Detroit Soul Questions / Aphex Vibert BDO set
I finally heard the Amp Fiddler album at a friend's and it actually picks up where Mr Fiddler left off, very mellow. I love the title-track, and there was at least one smooth song co-written by Raphael Saadiq. It was very soulful - and RB oriented - the whole set. I understand the buzz. i cant believe this still isnt out for real yet. how silly. great record. I picked this up in Australia about 5 weeks ago...lots of copies around at all the stores...strange it hit over here so early... Also thought Id give my impressions on Aphex Twin/Luke Vibert at the BDO lat night...I missed the first 20 or so minutes but when I arrived they were playing what seemed like remixes/alternate takes/different songs using very similar sounds to alot of the early Caustic Window and Analogue Bubblebath gear...awesome - Ive read that Aphex has a huge cache of unreleased music, if this was some of then wow!!! As good as any of his early releases (which are my favourites). The last alf hour turned into the monster acid/braindance gear Rephlex specialise in, with a bunch of tracks that wouldnt sound amiss on the Hangable Auto Bulb ep's. I was very impressed with the 2 of them using Laptops, we (Brisbane) get very few international acts, and I havent seen any using laptops ( and maybe even Final Scratch - not too sure there) before. But to all Australian 313er's - if you ever liked that early Aphex sound, then try and get to see them play - well worth the effort. (If you can handle the very large contingent of Metallica fans ;-))) JK
Re: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills
I think that's a bit hard maybe. Jeff Mills was raised in Detroit, he probably spent his first 20 years there, and just because he doesn't play there often doesn't mean he doesn't visit, or have family there. His influence is pervasive in Detroit. Stacey Pullen was saying that some might say his Fabric CD is 'not Detroit' because there is but one track by a Detroit artist (in this case Moodymann) but the point is he is from Detroit, in Detroit, it's his aesthetic. -- From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:50 PM why did he film it in detroit? he's not in detroit anymore, he doesnt play in detroit anymore. what the hell does jeff mills know about detroit? the the wizard era of detroit is long gone, and mostly for the better. it was a bad city with good music then, and now its a better city with better music IMO. _j - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Ploegmakers, Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Katrin Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: RE: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills Yussel, I think you've missed the point. It's a play on the idea of exhibitionism and the idea that you get to see inside of him - he's putting himself on display. If you look at the pictures on the CD/EVE a bit closer you'll see that the image isn't some wax sculpture - it's actually Jeff Mills. He hasn't entombed his image in a museum type display case at all- it's a store front window. Check out what is going to be on the DVD and you might begin to understand why it's called Exhibitionist and why placing himself in a store display window is a decent graphic representation of the project. In addition - the DVD was filmed in Detroit - not Germany or anywhere else that he could have done it. It doesn't make me ill at all - I think it's fantastic and the DVD sounds brilliant. Can't wait to get my paws on it. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] et To: Ploegmakers, Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Katrin Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org 01/16/04 05:04 PMSubject: RE: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills hope this doesn't make you more ill (iller?) http://sonar.es/portal/eng/home.cfm seems as though Katrin's estimation was dead on as Mr. Mills has now entombed his image in a museum type display case. I gotta say- on the one hand I don't agree with this particular direction for techno. Nor do I agree that Mills is the right person to take it in this direction (given the state of his current live performances) BUT, I do feel a bit more respect knowing that his actions (misguided or not) do have a definate purpose, rather than just egocentric flights of fancy. but that still doesn't explain why he refuse to let the sound guy keep him from distorting bassbins. On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Ploegmakers, Joost wrote: Well, I never thought this was possible, but reading your mail just made me physically sick. I could comment on every single sentence, but I won't. I'm just too upset. If what you are writing are actually truly the things that are going on in Mr. Mills mind, I will never want anything to do with him ever again. What an arrogant elitist artsy fartsy wannabe prick! I sincerely hope Jeff übermensch Mills will come to his senses soon enough. Or that this is all not true of course. Joost -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 15 januari 2004 17:04 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills When I met Jeff, he was a very nice caring person who was deeply concerned about the direction Techno was taking in Germany (!). He felt that he and Dimitri Hegemann from Tresor did a bad job back in the early Nineties because he pleaded guilty for conditioning people to consume Techno in dark boxes full of fog and strobes and didn't consider making it nicer for girls (which is, in his opinion, the reason why there are not so many girls embracing Techno)... We had a really long discussion and he admitted that he sometimes feels really removed from his audience. He said he'd never consume drugs because he would hate to put his company - and the people working for him - at risk... I don't think he is greedy... I think he is striving to be a real artist, sound- and concept-wise, that is accepted by educated people. This is, in my opinion, the reason, why he tries to employ these pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosophical thoughts on his sleeves written in bad English (which of course, are more expensive to make). Although he has done Metropolis and a lot of groundbreaking other projects, he is not really really accepted
Re: (313) re: Saunderson/Disney
with a decent lawyer it shouldn't be difficult specially with a company like disney that guards its copyrights\ vehemently. all ks needs is a copy of the movie and a decent ip lawyer and i'm sure disney will settle in good faith. someone should tell him rc on 19/1/04 11:44 AM, Dan Sicko at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was watching Pixel Perfect today (a new made for tv movie on the disney channel), and I heard Saunderson's Forcefield (i think it was Forcefield) about 2/3 of the way through it, uncredited. I'm guessing because these songs are produced by independent labels it happens often? Yep. I remember hearing Metro Area's Piña in a Volvo radio commercial back in 2002. Pretty sure MG hasn't gotten anywhere chasing that one down. -d
Re: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills
I'm really surprised at the full-on responses to this post by Katrin. Mills may have a conceptual approach but that doesn't equate to being elitist, I think he's fascinated with the theoretical possibilities of techno - he's to techno what ?uestlove is to hip-hop. It's not like either are anti-party. He is one of the most gracious people in the business, and modest to a fault. He certainly doesn't look down on anyone. If anything he is incredibly relativistic. So he's ambivalent about the proliferation of drugs in the scene - so is Derrick May, so is Paul Van Dyk, Armin Van Buuren, Ferry Corsten, all for different reasons. Is that such a bad thing? It's not like he's preaching an evangelical message, 'do not take drugs to my music'. Many of those in the scene who don't partake in the drug culture are ambivalent about it. I am certainly glad *someone cares* about the absence of women in the techno (and dance) scene - even though on a business level it would be great to see women supporting each other, not, as in some cases, undermining them, as that is actually the biggest barrier we face. ;) When I met Jeff, he was a very nice caring person who was deeply concerned about the direction Techno was taking in Germany (!). He felt that he and Dimitri Hegemann from Tresor did a bad job back in the early Nineties because he pleaded guilty for conditioning people to consume Techno in dark boxes full of fog and strobes and didn't consider making it nicer for girls (which is, in his opinion, the reason why there are not so many girls embracing Techno)... We had a really long discussion and he admitted that he sometimes feels really removed from his audience. He said he'd never consume drugs because he would hate to put his company - and the people working for him - at risk... I don't think he is greedy... I think he is striving to be a real artist, sound- and concept-wise, that is accepted by educated people. This is, in my opinion, the reason, why he tries to employ these pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosophical thoughts on his sleeves written in bad English (which of course, are more expensive to make). Although he has done Metropolis and a lot of groundbreaking other projects, he is not really really accepted in the realms of high art, especially not in North America where a Techno artist would never reach the status of social acceptance he longs for. In Europe and Japan, people roll out the red carpet... here, he is the person who single-handedly established Techno in Berlin (well, at least that's what Dimi and Jeff both want to believe - themselves - and which is impossible to prove or disprove). I guess the things I just mentioned are integral parts of his personality and that might explain why he tries to make his label a sought-after commodity rather than being down with the locals. Drug-mongering simple minds are just not his thang as he was working hard enough to transcend this stage of low human existance and I think he likes to see himself as a man of class and style - certainly the way he dresses and the hotels he chooses. Okay, that was the psychological analysis from da Kat :) who sat on the mat and is a big fan of Jeff as a human. I wouldn't buy See The Light but I certainly would buy the flip flips in his shop (and even the Axis beach towel) if I had the money spare. I love supporting people... -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2004 16:03 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) axis But what if he and others in his position could take it further than that! Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), seminars, clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the game. Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und Machine. http://www.musikundmaschine.com/index_flash.html not many other individual artists have done this so I think Jeff is actually on the forefront of doing exactly what you're asking him to do. MEK
(313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix
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Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix
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RE: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix
Probably the re-edit he played in the set that was posted on here a while ago? There's a Throbbing Gristle remix album coming out shortly, so its probably going to be on that. Personally, the idea fills me with dread, but there you go... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2004 10:07 To: 313 Subject: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix Is it out? Has anyone heard this? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix
Is it out? Has anyone heard this? I would imagine it's that edit on that little mix he did that's on the rushhour page that we were all thinking, wtf is that at the time if you go to the rushhour page, there's a little mix on there, about 20 mins long - I presume it's the edit he's playing on that. might be wrong though, but that would make sense. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills
Just a small point, but the display case pic is in Barcelona, and indeed, he was seeking what kind of reaction he would get from normal passers by from seeing a man in a shop windon doing all that (what may be completely alien to some) stuff. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 January 2004 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Ploegmakers, Joost; Katrin Richter Subject: RE: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills Yussel, I think you've missed the point. It's a play on the idea of exhibitionism and the idea that you get to see inside of him - he's putting himself on display. If you look at the pictures on the CD/EVE a bit closer you'll see that the image isn't some wax sculpture - it's actually Jeff Mills. He hasn't entombed his image in a museum type display case at all- it's a store front window. Check out what is going to be on the DVD and you might begin to understand why it's called Exhibitionist and why placing himself in a store display window is a decent graphic representation of the project. In addition - the DVD was filmed in Detroit - not Germany or anywhere else that he could have done it. It doesn't make me ill at all - I think it's fantastic and the DVD sounds brilliant. Can't wait to get my paws on it. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] et To: Ploegmakers, Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Katrin Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org 01/16/04 05:04 PMSubject: RE: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills hope this doesn't make you more ill (iller?) http://sonar.es/portal/eng/home.cfm seems as though Katrin's estimation was dead on as Mr. Mills has now entombed his image in a museum type display case. I gotta say- on the one hand I don't agree with this particular direction for techno. Nor do I agree that Mills is the right person to take it in this direction (given the state of his current live performances) BUT, I do feel a bit more respect knowing that his actions (misguided or not) do have a definate purpose, rather than just egocentric flights of fancy. but that still doesn't explain why he refuse to let the sound guy keep him from distorting bassbins. On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Ploegmakers, Joost wrote: Well, I never thought this was possible, but reading your mail just made me physically sick. I could comment on every single sentence, but I won't. I'm just too upset. If what you are writing are actually truly the things that are going on in Mr. Mills mind, I will never want anything to do with him ever again. What an arrogant elitist artsy fartsy wannabe prick! I sincerely hope Jeff übermensch Mills will come to his senses soon enough. Or that this is all not true of course. Joost -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 15 januari 2004 17:04 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills When I met Jeff, he was a very nice caring person who was deeply concerned about the direction Techno was taking in Germany (!). He felt that he and Dimitri Hegemann from Tresor did a bad job back in the early Nineties because he pleaded guilty for conditioning people to consume Techno in dark boxes full of fog and strobes and didn't consider making it nicer for girls (which is, in his opinion, the reason why there are not so many girls embracing Techno)... We had a really long discussion and he admitted that he sometimes feels really removed from his audience. He said he'd never consume drugs because he would hate to put his company - and the people working for him - at risk... I don't think he is greedy... I think he is striving to be a real artist, sound- and concept-wise, that is accepted by educated people. This is, in my opinion, the reason, why he tries to employ these pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosophical thoughts on his sleeves written in bad English (which of course, are more expensive to make). Although he has done Metropolis and a lot of groundbreaking other projects, he is not really really accepted in the realms of high art, especially not in North America where a Techno artist would never reach the status of social acceptance he longs for. In Europe and Japan, people roll out the red carpet... here, he is the person who single-handedly established Techno in Berlin (well, at least that's what Dimi and Jeff both want to believe - themselves - and which is impossible to prove or disprove). I guess the things I just mentioned are integral parts of his personality and that might explain why he tries to make his label a sought-after commodity rather than being down with the locals. Drug-mongering simple minds are just not his thang as he was working hard
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craig Remix
It's not as bad as it sounds :) But I do know what you mean... 19/1/04 10:08 AM Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Probably the re-edit he played in the set that was posted on here a while ago? There's a Throbbing Gristle remix album coming out shortly, so its probably going to be on that. Personally, the idea fills me with dread, but there you go... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2004 10:07 To: 313 Subject: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix Is it out? Has anyone heard this? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Andres lp Mahogani M-5
Anyone know where I can pick one up, Was asleep on thiss one and true to form..it has completely disappeared... Thnks placid
(313) SONY....................BONY
And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler, cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
RE: (313) SONY....................BONY
but apple didn't do a trance version of jaguar like sony did. ...and miraculously were back on topic :) robin... - -Original Message- - From: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - org] On Behalf Of Maxim Sullivan - Sent: 19 January 2004 11:00 - To: 313@hyperreal.org - Subject: (313) SONYBONY - - - And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks - much cooler, - cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
(313) mills' exhibitionist
anyone know if the react 12 and the music man 12 are the same?? both are out this week but i can't find tracklistings anywhere. www.innercity.co.uk
(313) label primers
I wouldn't mind Phonopsia Katrin Richter telling us a little more about Goya Soundslike, and Freude Am Tanzen, which they mentioned in their posts last week - what releases would you recommend to check out first ? Thanks in advance ! Gwendal
Re: (313) Detroit Soul Questions
The Davina on Soul City is one of my favourite Mad Mike house tracks... hasn't left my crate for a very long time .. Dave Cyclone Wehner wrote: I recently bought the 1998 Davina CD Best Of Both Worlds on Loud and it's classy. I borrowed it back then but, while enjoying it, I didn't realise then that she had a Detroit connection. I think my fave cut is still the single So Good, which has a Mary J feel. I know she did some music with UR ages ago, but I wonder what she's doing now? I really think Loud failed Davina (and most of its small RB roster).
RE: (313) Trainspotting
It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck spotters. It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism. -Original Message- From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Trainspotting Weird! That very film is playing right now on Channel 4 (UK). Trainspotter is an amusing derogatory term used to describe people who are more interested in the nuances and details of said pastime than the actual music itself- obsessions with labels, original pressings. catalogue numbers ad finitum. It comes from the act of Trainspotting- an actual hobby where train enthusiasts stand in train stations and record the numbers of different trains and their types and compare notes. I think most of us on the 313 could be described as trainspotters at one time or another :) Jason On 18 Jan 2004, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did the term trainspotting come from? I know there was a film - which I didn't see. What does it mean? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Trainspotting
Isn't trainspotting ultimately descended from philately, the mother of all bizarrely obsessive hobbies for nerdy blokes? I've heard that Asperger's argument before, and it does make a bit of sense to me to be honest; the whole idea of data being more fascinating to certain people than other humans are is common in trainspotters and in Asperger's sufferers. But on the other hand it could be argued that it's quite a natural thing to be nerdy and obsessive, with football and cars being the two biggest obsessions the typical male has. It's interesting that someone with an obsessive interest in football or cars tends to be seen in a different light than someone with an obsessive interest in music, computers or even trains. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2004 16:41 To: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck spotters. It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.
(313) carl craig
a Directions 12 with a Carl Craig mix (anthem alert! from piccadilly's mailing list. don't suppose anyone has heard it? you know I'm partial to the odd carl craig mix. Carl Craig, you've got to love him. (or I do anyway) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Trainspotting
And equally interesting that people of the female gender hardly seem to be affected by this anomaly... Hmm, guess that's the reason why there's so few female DJs. Joost It's interesting that someone with an obsessive interest in football or cars tends to be seen in a different light than someone with an obsessive interest in music, computers or even trains. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2004 16:41 To: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck spotters. It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.
(313) telepathica equipment sale
telepathica equipment sale Fender Princeton Reverb Amp. Mid 70's. excellent condition. Roland TB-303 Bassline synthesizer. Korg MS20 Korg MS50 Oberheim Matrix 1000 all best offer. more info upon request telepathic regards, fRED
Re: (313) SONY....................BONY
first things to consider... the 45 hours of music is encoded at 48kbs, which is pitiful quality. mp3's at their 'lowest' quality should be 128- so your hours is now down to 15. if 15 hours of music is all you're looking for, than there's much smaller- cheaper- mp3 player out there than either the ipod or the sony. also- i wonder how the music transfer works? it takes about 30 minutes to load 30GB of music onto my ipod via USB2. things to look into before buying. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Maxim Sullivan wrote: And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler, cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
RE: (313) Trainspotting
i've often joked about the autism of my dj friends. like why does carlos souffront know that the 2nd track on the b-side of the second disc of brendan gillens's copy of minimal nation has a skip in it??!! glad our scientists are on it ;) On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Robert Taylor wrote: It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck spotters. It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism. -Original Message- From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Trainspotting Weird! That very film is playing right now on Channel 4 (UK). Trainspotter is an amusing derogatory term used to describe people who are more interested in the nuances and details of said pastime than the actual music itself- obsessions with labels, original pressings. catalogue numbers ad finitum. It comes from the act of Trainspotting- an actual hobby where train enthusiasts stand in train stations and record the numbers of different trains and their types and compare notes. I think most of us on the 313 could be described as trainspotters at one time or another :) Jason On 18 Jan 2004, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did the term trainspotting come from? I know there was a film - which I didn't see. What does it mean? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Trainspotting
It's interesting that someone with an obsessive interest in football or cars tends to be seen in a different light than someone with an obsessive interest in music, computers or even trains. I totally agree, especially considering that the mainstream occupations are passive (watching football) or fantastic (how many people can afford a 'dream' car) I guess we're lazy animals that can relate to passive occupations more than active ones like collecting records or hanging out in train yards. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2004 16:41 To: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck spotters. It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.
Re: (313) Trainspotting
you're a lucky man if your true dreams are of a creative nature, imo - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting It's interesting that someone with an obsessive interest in football or cars tends to be seen in a different light than someone with an obsessive interest in music, computers or even trains. I totally agree, especially considering that the mainstream occupations are passive (watching football) or fantastic (how many people can afford a 'dream' car) I guess we're lazy animals that can relate to passive occupations more than active ones like collecting records or hanging out in train yards. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2004 16:41 To: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck spotters. It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.
Re: (313) Trainspotting - aspergers?
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck spotters. It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism. Where did you hear that? My 20 year old brother is Asperger's/autistic and he doesn't collect or spot anything. I'm not disagreeing with you, I ask because maybe getting him into something like that would help him out a bit; he's a bit lost in life (as autistic people tend to be). -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) VOTE FOR ME http://www.djmixed.com/djmixed/contests/surveys.cfm?survey_ID=8 http://www.djentropy.com http://www.djentropy.com/forum/phpBB2/index.php If you can't laugh at what you are doing, then you surely can't succeed at it. At least when right-wingers rant, there's a point. - Ann Coulter Rave. Go ahead, own it. - Kyocera.com
Re: (313) Trainspotting
I totally agree, especially considering that the mainstream occupations are passive (watching football) or fantastic (how many people can afford a 'dream' car) I guess we're lazy animals that can relate to passive occupations more than active ones like collecting records or hanging out in train yards. I'm not sure I agree with the statement that 'music' is more of an active pastime than 'football' or 'cars' for that matter. Watching football can be a very (inter-)active experience, believe me. There's more to it than just sitting in front of the telly every weekend. going to record shops/ going 'clubbing' = going to football matches buying records = buying programmes/tickets (just as collectable) dj'ing = playing football True football fans are just as passionate about their pastime as music lovers (not that the two are mutually exclusive!), and for every music mailing list/messageboard there's one dedicated to sport.
Re: (313) SONY....................BONY
The new iPod Mini's are way cool. http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/ K. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 19, 2004 4:31 pm Subject: Re: (313) SONYBONY first things to consider... the 45 hours of music is encoded at 48kbs, which is pitiful quality. mp3's at their 'lowest' quality should be 128- so your hours is now down to 15. if 15 hours of music is all you're looking for, than there's much smaller- cheaper- mp3 player out there than either the ipod or the sony. also- i wonder how the music transfer works? it takes about 30 minutes to load 30GB of music onto my ipod via USB2. things to look into before buying. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Maxim Sullivan wrote: And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler, cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
(313) house stuff
Peeps Anyone know if the cassandra wilson 'vodou ep' on spiritual life is out yet or just a promo ? the review in 'keep on' sounds very tasty...thanx p
(313) Keith Tucker and Max Durante
Announce new project: http://www.littledetroit.net/News/artl.php?id=51 Martin Dust Club: www.dustclub.com Community: www.littledetroit.net Label: www.dustscience.com
Re: (313) Trainspotting
I'm not sure I agree with the statement that 'music' is more of an active pastime than 'football' or 'cars' for that matter. As a total car geek I'd have to agree with the above statementsure there aren't many that can afford the 'car of their dreams' but even someone of modest means could go out and buy a reasonably priced sportscar, then work on it, race it or whatever. Hardly passive imo...
Re: (313) Trainspotting
i was referring to the fact that most car enthusiast (and arm chair quarterbacks) don't do any of the things mentioned. I'm not suprised that people on this list DO in fact get active with their car/football/record obsessions. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, [iso-8859-1] Mark S. Krüx wrote: I'm not sure I agree with the statement that 'music' is more of an active pastime than 'football' or 'cars' for that matter. As a total car geek I'd have to agree with the above statementsure there aren't many that can afford the 'car of their dreams' but even someone of modest means could go out and buy a reasonably priced sportscar, then work on it, race it or whatever. Hardly passive imo...
Re: (313) Keith Tucker and Max Durante
Martin wrote: Announce new project: http://www.littledetroit.net/News/artl.php?id=51 Weird - is that Digital System that came out a while back on Puzzlebox? One of my all-time faves, sounds totally analogue, 'out' and funky.