Re: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread Jason Brunton
Weird!  That very film is playing right now on Channel 4 (UK).  
Trainspotter is an amusing derogatory term used to describe people who 
are  more interested in  the nuances and details of said pastime than 
the actual music itself- obsessions with labels, original pressings. 
catalogue numbers ad finitum.  It comes from the act of 
Trainspotting- an actual hobby where train enthusiasts stand in train 
stations and record the numbers of different trains and their types and 
compare notes.  I think most of us on the 313 could be described as 
trainspotters at one time or another :)


Jason


On 18 Jan 2004, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Where did the term trainspotting come from?
I know there was a film - which I didn't see.
What does it mean?





RE: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread ralf gill
sort of went with the i-spy series of books...man, what a waste of time

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it comes from people who spend their time standing by trainlines watching
trains go past and writing down the train numbers or some other details.
from what i can gather, it's popularity seems confined to the british
isles.
it's become a byword for pointless,  obsessive behaviour.
james
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Where did the term trainspotting come from?
I know there was a film - which I didn't see.
What does it mean?





(313) re: Saunderson/Disney

2004-01-19 Thread Dan Sicko


On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was watching Pixel Perfect today (a new made for tv movie on the 
disney

channel), and I heard Saunderson's Forcefield (i think it was
Forcefield) about 2/3 of the way through it, uncredited.  I'm guessing
because these songs are produced by independent labels it happens 
often?


Yep.  I remember hearing Metro Area's Piña in a Volvo radio 
commercial back in 2002.  Pretty sure MG hasn't gotten anywhere chasing 
that one down.


-d



RE: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread FC2 Richards
I still do that with my baseball cards

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Weird!  That very film is playing right now on Channel 4 (UK).  
Trainspotter is an amusing derogatory term used to describe people who 
are  more interested in  the nuances and details of said pastime than 
the actual music itself- obsessions with labels, original pressings. 
catalogue numbers ad finitum.  It comes from the act of 
Trainspotting- an actual hobby where train enthusiasts stand in train 
stations and record the numbers of different trains and their types and 
compare notes.  I think most of us on the 313 could be described as 
trainspotters at one time or another :)

Jason


On 18 Jan 2004, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where did the term trainspotting come from?
 I know there was a film - which I didn't see.
 What does it mean?



Re: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread Mediadrome

In a message dated 1/18/04 6:39:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 it comes from people who spend their time standing by trainlines watching
trains go past and writing down the train numbers or some other details.
from what i can gather, it's popularity seems confined to the british
isles.
it's become a byword for pointless,  obsessive behaviour. 

Thanks for all the thoughtful replies.

When I was a kid in Chicago (in the 1950s) I lived a block away from a very 
large RR yard.
I would keep a notebook of the various RR companies and their freight cars 
and also  private companies that had their own rolling stock - not the numbers 
- 
 just the types of boxcars, tank cars,  refers (that's refrigerated cars, not 
something you smoke).Some of them were very colorful.

I mentioned this thread to my wife, who rides a commuter train to work every 
day.   She said that some of the older passenger train cars have their own 
names like the General Sheridan or the Mountain View etc.She said that 
she looks at the names of the cars as they pass by.

Another related point is that trains, at one point on our civilization, were 
the fastest way to get from point A to point B.   The time-space thing.   You 
see a lot of railroad imagery in early 20th century painting.Today it 
would be the airplane or the spaceship.

WOW  pointless,  obsessive behavior   
sounds like me.

mediadrome







(313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.
I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional
Australia. Hmmm.

PRESS RELEASE
17.01.04


Mischief Presents
Theo Parrish [Detroit]

Australian Tour Dates
FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH 2004 - MELBOURNE MISCHIEF
SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH 2004 - SYDNEY MISCHIEF

FRIDAY MARCH 5TH 2004- NEWCASTLE
MARCH 07th 2004 - ADELAIDE
MARCH 10th - ADELAIDE as part of the WOMAD festival


YO' THEO PARRISH (DETROIT'S THIRD GENERATION), DOG !!
Mischief has it's tail all fluffed up with excitement to announce, that for
the FIRST time ever,THEO PARRISH (DETROIT), one of the world's most
mysterious music makers is bringing his culturally rich record box to
Australia. At last !!!

Love of the music should be the driving force of any producer, performer or
DJ. Everything else stems from that core, that love. With that love,
sampling can become a tribute; An expansion on ideas long forgotten,
reconstruction, collage. Using the same understanding openly and
respectfully can turn DJing into a spiritual participation. It can turn a
few hours of selection into essential history; Necessary listening through
movement.

- Theo Parrish

This personal philosophy gives shape and direction to the distinctive sounds
that are created by Theo Parrish.

Venue and Local support to be announced soon!

What is this mischief all about ?

Mischief is the unique pairing of the creative forces behind Melbourne's
cult nightclub honkytonks: Michael Delany, Ben Ford, and Little Beastie's
Angela Maison and Ant J Steep.

The first Mischief events we will be hosting are on the following dates
around Australia;
February 27th in Melbourne
February 28th in Sydney 


(313) F-Comm/SOMA in Sydney was Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread David Gillies

Cyclone Wehner wrote:


Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.

I'm also hearing that Soma and F-Communications are starting a monthly 
night in Sydney at the Bourbon. Does anyone know about it? Is it 
something to do with the Mischief crew? Apparently this is coming up:


February - AlexKid and Hipp-e
March - Llorca and Master H
April - Funk D'Void and The Youngsters Live
Sometime - SLAM and Laurent Garnier Live



Re: (313) F-Comm/SOMA in Sydney was Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner

Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.

 I'm also hearing that Soma and F-Communications are starting a monthly
 night in Sydney at the Bourbon. Does anyone know about it? Is it
 something to do with the Mischief crew? Apparently this is coming up:

 February - AlexKid and Hipp-e
 March - Llorca and Master H
 April - Funk D'Void and The Youngsters Live
 Sometime - SLAM and Laurent Garnier Live

Wow, that's good! Nah, I'd know if it were Mischief, they are my peepz. Theo
is the first Mischief international.

I do know of Laurent rumours, but that's Hardware.
It's probably Richie McNeill (Melb) behind that. He's talked of bringing
Laurent back for a while. Wow, I hope he's doing that. I think I'll ring him
right now. ;)


Re: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread mkb

At 23:40 + 1/18/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

it's popularity seems confined to the british
isles.


Not really. I have several friends who are obsessed with the NYC subway system.

I'm awfully fond of German trainspotters for taking pictures of train cars made
by Mindener Kreisbahnen GmbH, who puts big MKB logos on their 
rolling stock. :)

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Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner
There's just been a Perth date added for this too - March 12th.

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From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 2:44 PM


 Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.
 I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play regional
 Australia. Hmmm.

 PRESS RELEASE
 17.01.04


 Mischief Presents
 Theo Parrish [Detroit]

 Australian Tour Dates
 FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH 2004 - MELBOURNE MISCHIEF
 SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH 2004 - SYDNEY MISCHIEF
 
 FRIDAY MARCH 5TH 2004- NEWCASTLE
 MARCH 07th 2004 - ADELAIDE
 MARCH 10th - ADELAIDE as part of the WOMAD festival


 YO' THEO PARRISH (DETROIT'S THIRD GENERATION), DOG !!
 Mischief has it's tail all fluffed up with excitement to announce, that for
 the FIRST time ever,THEO PARRISH (DETROIT), one of the world's most
 mysterious music makers is bringing his culturally rich record box to
 Australia. At last !!!

 Love of the music should be the driving force of any producer, performer or
 DJ. Everything else stems from that core, that love. With that love,
 sampling can become a tribute; An expansion on ideas long forgotten,
 reconstruction, collage. Using the same understanding openly and
 respectfully can turn DJing into a spiritual participation. It can turn a
 few hours of selection into essential history; Necessary listening through
 movement.

 - Theo Parrish

 This personal philosophy gives shape and direction to the distinctive sounds
 that are created by Theo Parrish.

 Venue and Local support to be announced soon!

 What is this mischief all about ?

 Mischief is the unique pairing of the creative forces behind Melbourne's
 cult nightclub honkytonks: Michael Delany, Ben Ford, and Little Beastie's
 Angela Maison and Ant J Steep.

 The first Mischief events we will be hosting are on the following dates
 around Australia;
 February 27th in Melbourne
 February 28th in Sydney 


Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread Sam K
cool so its confirmed.
I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time???
Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my
excuse,
maybe he'll play a fella dedication set...

and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell
as support;^)

finally

Sam

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.
 I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play
 regional
 Australia. Hmmm.
 
 PRESS RELEASE
 17.01.04
 
 
 Mischief Presents
 Theo Parrish [Detroit]
 
 Australian Tour Dates
 FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH 2004 - MELBOURNE MISCHIEF
 SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH 2004 - SYDNEY MISCHIEF
 
 FRIDAY MARCH 5TH 2004- NEWCASTLE
 MARCH 07th 2004 - ADELAIDE
 MARCH 10th - ADELAIDE as part of the WOMAD festival
 
 
 YO' THEO PARRISH (DETROIT'S THIRD GENERATION), DOG !!
 Mischief has it's tail all fluffed up with excitement to announce, that
 for
 the FIRST time ever,THEO PARRISH (DETROIT), one of the world's most
 mysterious music makers is bringing his culturally rich record box to
 Australia. At last !!!
 
 Love of the music should be the driving force of any producer, performer
 or
 DJ. Everything else stems from that core, that love. With that love,
 sampling can become a tribute; An expansion on ideas long forgotten,
 reconstruction, collage. Using the same understanding openly and
 respectfully can turn DJing into a spiritual participation. It can turn a
 few hours of selection into essential history; Necessary listening
 through
 movement.
 
 - Theo Parrish
 
 This personal philosophy gives shape and direction to the distinctive
 sounds
 that are created by Theo Parrish.
 
 Venue and Local support to be announced soon!
 
 What is this mischief all about ?
 
 Mischief is the unique pairing of the creative forces behind Melbourne's
 cult nightclub honkytonks: Michael Delany, Ben Ford, and Little Beastie's
 Angela Maison and Ant J Steep.
 
 The first Mischief events we will be hosting are on the following dates
 around Australia;
 February 27th in Melbourne
 February 28th in Sydney 
-- 
  Sam K
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Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread David Gillies

How's about Rick Wilhite and Moodyman at the same time :-D

Sam K wrote:


cool so its confirmed.
I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time???
Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my
excuse,
maybe he'll play a fella dedication set...

and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell
as support;^)

finally

Sam

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 


Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.
I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play
regional
Australia. Hmmm.

PRESS RELEASE
17.01.04


Mischief Presents
Theo Parrish [Detroit]





Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner
No Moodymann this time.
Maybe cooler weather, don't want no girls fainting. ;)
At least one of those other names are on a wishlist but you gotta build
something like this slowly and carefully.
It's very exciting.

;)


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To: list 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 4:02 PM


 cool so its confirmed.
 I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time???
 Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my
 excuse,
 maybe he'll play a fella dedication set...

 and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell
 as support;^)

 finally

 Sam

 On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.
 I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play
 regional
 Australia. Hmmm.

 PRESS RELEASE
 17.01.04


 Mischief Presents
 Theo Parrish [Detroit]

 Australian Tour Dates
 FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH 2004 - MELBOURNE MISCHIEF
 SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH 2004 - SYDNEY MISCHIEF
 
 FRIDAY MARCH 5TH 2004- NEWCASTLE
 MARCH 07th 2004 - ADELAIDE
 MARCH 10th - ADELAIDE as part of the WOMAD festival


 YO' THEO PARRISH (DETROIT'S THIRD GENERATION), DOG !!
 Mischief has it's tail all fluffed up with excitement to announce, that
 for
 the FIRST time ever,THEO PARRISH (DETROIT), one of the world's most
 mysterious music makers is bringing his culturally rich record box to
 Australia. At last !!!

 Love of the music should be the driving force of any producer, performer
 or
 DJ. Everything else stems from that core, that love. With that love,
 sampling can become a tribute; An expansion on ideas long forgotten,
 reconstruction, collage. Using the same understanding openly and
 respectfully can turn DJing into a spiritual participation. It can turn a
 few hours of selection into essential history; Necessary listening
 through
 movement.

 - Theo Parrish

 This personal philosophy gives shape and direction to the distinctive
 sounds
 that are created by Theo Parrish.

 Venue and Local support to be announced soon!

 What is this mischief all about ?

 Mischief is the unique pairing of the creative forces behind Melbourne's
 cult nightclub honkytonks: Michael Delany, Ben Ford, and Little Beastie's
 Angela Maison and Ant J Steep.

 The first Mischief events we will be hosting are on the following dates
 around Australia;
 February 27th in Melbourne
 February 28th in Sydney
 --
   Sam K
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sub-sequence 2xx 98.3fm

 --
 http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be


(313) Down low music..down?

2004-01-19 Thread Sam K
is my computer screwed or is the Down Low website down?
I havent been able to access it for a few days.

sam
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  Sam K
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Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner
He he, and Dave Angel drove through the desert to get to an Adelaide gig in
a limo once. ;)

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Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 4:04 PM



 On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.
 I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play
 regional
 Australia. Hmmm.

 Nah..Stacey and Derrick played in Canberra.hehe;^)
 --
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   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner
That almost happened a few years ago when Laura Gavoor was looking after the
guys. Of course those involved would love to pull it off again as a tribute
to her as she put a lot of work into the tour. But it has to be done right
at the right time so the artists are happy and well looked after and
represented properly. I'm hopeful it will happen. Australia is a small
market so you gotta take extra care. This Theo tour has taken ages so
everything is right and it ties in with Japanese dates. But yeah there's a
pretty impressive wishlist there.



 How's about Rick Wilhite and Moodyman at the same time :-D

 Sam K wrote:

cool so its confirmed.
I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time???
Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my
excuse,
maybe he'll play a fella dedication set...

and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell
as support;^)

finally

Sam

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.
I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play
regional
Australia. Hmmm.

PRESS RELEASE
17.01.04


Mischief Presents
Theo Parrish [Detroit]

 


Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread David Gillies

Cyclone Wehner wrote:


But yeah there's a
pretty impressive wishlist there.

Since we all get drip feed the good stuff over the course of the years 
and years, I reckon most punters (including myself) have a pretty 
impossible wishlist. LOL!




Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread James_Bucknell





the dream lineup has happened before - theo parrish, rick wilhite, moodyman
and larry heard all played at a party in detroit after demf 2.
high point of my life, i think i even gave otto a hug.
james
www.jbucknell.com





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 How's about Rick Wilhite and Moodyman at the same time :-D

 Sam K wrote:

cool so its confirmed.
I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time???
Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my
excuse,
maybe he'll play a fella dedication set...

and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell
as support;^)

finally

Sam

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.
I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play
regional
Australia. Hmmm.

PRESS RELEASE
17.01.04


Mischief Presents
Theo Parrish [Detroit]







Re: (313) Theo Parrish Australian Dates

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner
The difference is being half a world away makes things tougher to pull off.
The so-called 'tyranny of distance'. Everybody would love to see it here, I
know!

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 4:46 PM







 the dream lineup has happened before - theo parrish, rick wilhite, moodyman
 and larry heard all played at a party in detroit after demf 2.
 high point of my life, i think i even gave otto a hug.
 james
 www.jbucknell.com





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 313@hyperreal.org
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 Parrish Australian Dates
   19/01/04 04:55

   AM













 How's about Rick Wilhite and Moodyman at the same time :-D

 Sam K wrote:

cool so its confirmed.
I heard that Moodymann was coming at the same time???
Womad wow thats interesting...i've always wanted to go, now heres my
excuse,
maybe he'll play a fella dedication set...

and Mischief if your listening how about Shake, Claude Young and Dan Bell
as support;^)

finally

Sam

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:40 +1100, Cyclone Wehner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Wow, good news on a Monday morning, Aussies.
I also think this is gonna be the first time a Detroit DJ will play
regional
Australia. Hmmm.

PRESS RELEASE
17.01.04


Mischief Presents
Theo Parrish [Detroit]




 


(313) Detroit Soul Questions

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I recently bought the 1998 Davina CD Best Of Both Worlds on Loud and it's 
classy. I borrowed it back then but, while enjoying it, I didn't realise
then that she had a Detroit connection. I think my fave cut is still the
single So Good, which has a Mary J feel. I know she did some music with UR
ages ago, but I wonder what she's doing now?
I really think Loud failed Davina (and most of its small RB roster).

Also, I saw a new (?) Norma Jean Bell track in store on the weekend, I think
a remix, something like I'm The Realest Queen on a label with Chocolate in
the title. I should have taken in more, but I was avoiding pushy sales staff
when I'm broke! Anyone know anymore? Does anyone know what NJB has been
working on lately? She was working on a new album two years ago on her own
label.

Also, someone posted some info on a new Moodymann album, which I've lost. If
there is any press info, can someone forward it to me? That would rock.

I finally heard the Amp Fiddler album at a friend's and it actually picks up
where Mr Fiddler left off, very mellow. I love the title-track, and there
was at least one smooth song co-written by Raphael Saadiq. It was very
soulful - and RB oriented - the whole set. I understand the buzz.

Also, I know Detroit being a small town *someone* here has to know this:
when is the new Anita Baker album coming out?


Re: (313) Detroit Soul Questions

2004-01-19 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also, I saw a new (?) Norma Jean Bell track in store on the 
weekend, I think
a remix, something like I'm The Realest Queen on a label with 
Chocolate in
the title. I should have taken in more, but I was avoiding pushy 
sales staff
when I'm broke! Anyone know anymore? Does anyone know what NJB 
has been
working on lately? She was working on a new album two years ago 
on her own
label.

dunno about new stuff, but that was probably the label funky 
chocolate which has been rereleasing rick wade tracks and will 
also be rereleasing other detroit house stuff. here's the discogs 
link for the release you saw: 

http://www.discogs.com/release/222794

i havent seen that one around though..

Also, someone posted some info on a new Moodymann album, which 
I've lost. If
there is any press info, can someone forward it to me? That would 
rock.

that was on the peacefrog website IIRC. 

I finally heard the Amp Fiddler album at a friend's and it 
actually picks up
where Mr Fiddler left off, very mellow. I love the title-track, 
and there
was at least one smooth song co-written by Raphael Saadiq. It was 
very
soulful - and RB oriented - the whole set. I understand the buzz.

i cant believe this still isnt out for real yet. how silly. great 
record.

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) Detroit Soul Questions / Aphex Vibert BDO set

2004-01-19 Thread ionizer

 I finally heard the Amp Fiddler album at a friend's and it
 actually picks up
 where Mr Fiddler left off, very mellow. I love the title-track,
 and there
 was at least one smooth song co-written by Raphael Saadiq. It was
 very
 soulful - and RB oriented - the whole set. I understand the buzz.

 i cant believe this still isnt out for real yet. how silly. great
 record.

I picked this up in Australia about 5 weeks ago...lots of copies around at
all the stores...strange it hit over here so early...

Also thought Id give my impressions on Aphex Twin/Luke Vibert at the BDO lat
night...I missed the first 20 or so minutes but when I arrived they were
playing what seemed like remixes/alternate takes/different songs using very
similar sounds to alot of the early Caustic Window and Analogue Bubblebath
gear...awesome - Ive read that Aphex has a huge cache of unreleased music,
if this was some of then wow!!! As good as any of his early releases (which
are my favourites).  The last alf hour turned into the monster
acid/braindance gear Rephlex specialise in, with a bunch of tracks that
wouldnt sound amiss on the Hangable Auto Bulb ep's.  I was very impressed
with the 2 of them using Laptops, we (Brisbane) get very few international
acts, and I havent seen any using laptops ( and maybe even Final Scratch -
not too sure there) before.  But to all Australian 313er's - if you ever
liked that early Aphex sound, then try and get to see them play - well worth
the effort.  (If you can handle the very large contingent of Metallica fans
;-)))

JK




Re: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I think that's a bit hard maybe. Jeff Mills was raised in Detroit, he
probably spent his first 20 years there, and just because he doesn't play
there often doesn't mean he doesn't visit, or have family there. His
influence is pervasive in Detroit.
Stacey Pullen was saying that some might say his Fabric CD is 'not Detroit'
because there is but one track by a Detroit artist (in this case Moodymann)
but the point is he is from Detroit, in Detroit, it's his aesthetic.

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Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:50 PM


 why did he film it in detroit?  he's not in detroit anymore, he doesnt play
 in detroit anymore.  what the hell does jeff mills know about detroit?

 the the wizard era of detroit is long gone, and mostly for the better.  it
 was a bad city with good music then, and now its a better city with better
 music IMO.

 _j

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 Yussel,
 I think you've missed the point.  It's a play on the idea of exhibitionism
 and the idea that you get to see inside of him - he's putting himself on
 display.  If you look at the pictures on the CD/EVE a bit closer you'll see
 that the image isn't some wax sculpture - it's actually Jeff Mills. He
 hasn't entombed his image in a museum type display case at all- it's a
 store front window.

 Check out what is going to be on the DVD and you might begin to understand
 why it's called Exhibitionist and why placing himself in a store display
 window is a decent graphic representation of the project.

 In addition - the DVD was filmed in Detroit - not Germany or anywhere else
 that he could have done it.

 It doesn't make me ill at all - I think it's fantastic and the DVD sounds
 brilliant.
 Can't wait to get my paws on it.

 MEK



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 Milestone Mills






 hope this doesn't make you more ill (iller?)

 http://sonar.es/portal/eng/home.cfm

 seems as though Katrin's estimation was dead on as Mr. Mills has now
 entombed his image in a museum type display case.

 I gotta say- on the one hand I don't agree with this particular direction
 for techno. Nor do I agree that Mills is the right person to take it in
 this direction (given the state of his current live performances)

 BUT, I do feel a bit more respect knowing that his actions (misguided or
 not) do have a definate purpose, rather than just egocentric flights of
 fancy.

 but that still doesn't explain why he refuse to let the sound guy keep him
 from distorting bassbins.



 On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Ploegmakers, Joost wrote:

 Well,

 I never thought this was possible, but reading your mail just made me
 physically sick.

 I could comment on every single sentence, but I won't. I'm just too
 upset. If what you are writing are actually truly the things that are going
 on in Mr. Mills mind, I will never want anything to do with him ever again.
 What an arrogant elitist artsy fartsy wannabe prick!
 I sincerely hope Jeff übermensch Mills will come to his senses soon
 enough. Or that this is all not true of course.


 Joost



  -Original Message-
  From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: donderdag 15 januari 2004 17:04
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills
 
 
  When I met Jeff, he was a very nice caring person who was
  deeply concerned about the direction Techno was taking in
  Germany (!). He felt that he and Dimitri Hegemann from Tresor
  did a bad job back in the early Nineties because he pleaded
  guilty for conditioning people to consume Techno in dark
  boxes full of fog and strobes and didn't consider making it
  nicer for girls (which is, in his opinion, the reason why
  there are not so many girls embracing Techno)...
 
  We had a really long discussion and he admitted that he
  sometimes feels really removed from his audience. He said
  he'd never consume drugs because he would hate to put his
  company - and the people working for him - at risk...
 
  I don't think he is greedy... I think he is striving to be a
  real artist,
  sound- and concept-wise, that is accepted by educated
  people. This is, in my opinion, the reason, why he tries to
  employ these pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosophical
  thoughts on his sleeves written in bad English (which of
  course, are more expensive to make). Although he has done
  Metropolis and a lot of groundbreaking other projects, he is
  not really really accepted 

Re: (313) re: Saunderson/Disney

2004-01-19 Thread Rc
with a decent lawyer it shouldn't be difficult

specially with a company like disney that guards its copyrights\ vehemently.
all ks needs is a copy of the movie and a decent ip lawyer and i'm sure
disney will settle in good faith. someone should tell him

rc
on 19/1/04 11:44 AM, Dan Sicko at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I was watching Pixel Perfect today (a new made for tv movie on the
 disney
 channel), and I heard Saunderson's Forcefield (i think it was
 Forcefield) about 2/3 of the way through it, uncredited.  I'm guessing
 because these songs are produced by independent labels it happens
 often?
 
 Yep.  I remember hearing Metro Area's Piña in a Volvo radio
 commercial back in 2002.  Pretty sure MG hasn't gotten anywhere chasing
 that one down.
 
 -d
 



Re: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills

2004-01-19 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I'm really surprised at the full-on responses to this post by Katrin.
Mills may have a conceptual approach but that doesn't equate to being
elitist, I think he's fascinated with the theoretical possibilities of
techno - he's to techno what ?uestlove is to hip-hop. It's not like either
are anti-party.
He is one of the most gracious people in the business, and modest to a
fault. He certainly doesn't look down on anyone. If anything he is
incredibly relativistic.
So he's ambivalent about the proliferation of drugs in the scene - so is
Derrick May, so is Paul Van Dyk, Armin Van Buuren, Ferry Corsten, all for
different reasons. Is that such a bad thing? It's not like he's preaching an
evangelical message, 'do not take drugs to my music'. Many of those in the
scene who don't partake in the drug culture are ambivalent about it.
I am certainly glad *someone cares* about the absence of women in the techno
(and dance) scene - even though on a business level it would be great to see
women supporting each other, not, as in some cases, undermining them, as
that is actually the biggest barrier we face. ;)


 When I met Jeff, he was a very nice caring person who was deeply concerned
 about the direction Techno was taking in Germany (!). He felt that he and
 Dimitri Hegemann from Tresor did a bad job back in the early Nineties
 because he pleaded guilty for conditioning people to consume Techno in dark
 boxes full of fog and strobes and didn't consider making it nicer for girls
 (which is, in his opinion, the reason why there are not so many girls
 embracing Techno)...

 We had a really long discussion and he admitted that he sometimes feels
 really removed from his audience. He said he'd never consume drugs because
 he would hate to put his company - and the people working for him - at
 risk...

 I don't think he is greedy... I think he is striving to be a real artist,
 sound- and concept-wise, that is accepted by educated people. This is, in
 my opinion, the reason, why he tries to employ these pseudo-intellectual,
 pseudo-philosophical thoughts on his sleeves written in bad English (which
 of course, are more expensive to make). Although he has done Metropolis and
 a lot of groundbreaking other projects, he is not really really accepted in
 the realms of high art, especially not in North America where a Techno
 artist would never reach the status of social acceptance he longs for. In
 Europe and Japan, people roll out the red carpet... here, he is the person
 who single-handedly established Techno in Berlin (well, at least that's what
 Dimi and Jeff both want to believe - themselves - and which is impossible to
 prove or disprove).

 I guess the things I just mentioned are integral parts of his personality
 and that might explain why he tries to make his label a sought-after
 commodity rather than being down with the locals. Drug-mongering simple
 minds are just not his thang as he was working hard enough to transcend this
 stage of low human existance and I think he likes to see himself as a man of
 class and style - certainly the way he dresses and the hotels he chooses.

 Okay, that was the psychological analysis from da Kat :) who sat on the mat
 and is a big fan of Jeff as a human. I wouldn't buy See The Light but I
 certainly would buy the flip flips in his shop (and even the Axis beach
 towel) if I had the money spare.

 I love supporting people...




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But what if he and others in his position could take it further than that!

Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), seminars,
clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the game.


 Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und Machine.
 http://www.musikundmaschine.com/index_flash.html

 not many other individual artists have done this so I think Jeff is
 actually on the forefront of doing exactly what you're asking him to do.


 MEK



(313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix

2004-01-19 Thread Robert Taylor
Is it out? Has anyone heard this?

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Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix

2004-01-19 Thread Martin
Check here Rob for full details:

http://www.littledetroit.net/News/artl.php?id=42

martin


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RE: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix

2004-01-19 Thread Sean Creen
Probably the re-edit he played in the set that was posted on here a while
ago?
There's a Throbbing Gristle remix album coming out shortly, so its probably
going to be on that. Personally, the idea fills me with dread, but there you
go...

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Is it out? Has anyone heard this?


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Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix

2004-01-19 Thread alex . bond

Is it out? Has anyone heard this?

I would imagine it's that edit on that little mix he did that's on the
rushhour page that we were all thinking, wtf is that at the time
 if you go to the rushhour page, there's a little mix on there, about 20
mins long - I presume it's the edit he's playing on that.
might be wrong though, but that would make sense.

alex


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RE: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills

2004-01-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Just a small point, but the display case pic is in Barcelona, and indeed,
he was seeking what kind of reaction he would get from normal passers by
from seeing a man in a shop windon doing all that (what may be completely
alien to some) stuff.

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Yussel,
I think you've missed the point.  It's a play on the idea of exhibitionism
and the idea that you get to see inside of him - he's putting himself on
display.  If you look at the pictures on the CD/EVE a bit closer you'll see
that the image isn't some wax sculpture - it's actually Jeff Mills. He
hasn't entombed his image in a museum type display case at all- it's a
store front window.

Check out what is going to be on the DVD and you might begin to understand
why it's called Exhibitionist and why placing himself in a store display
window is a decent graphic representation of the project.

In addition - the DVD was filmed in Detroit - not Germany or anywhere else
that he could have done it.

It doesn't make me ill at all - I think it's fantastic and the DVD sounds
brilliant.
Can't wait to get my paws on it.

MEK


 

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  et   To:   Ploegmakers,
Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   cc:   Katrin Richter
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org   
  01/16/04 05:04 PMSubject:  RE: (313) Jeff
Milestone Mills 
 

 





hope this doesn't make you more ill (iller?)

http://sonar.es/portal/eng/home.cfm

seems as though Katrin's estimation was dead on as Mr. Mills has now
entombed his image in a museum type display case.

I gotta say- on the one hand I don't agree with this particular direction
for techno. Nor do I agree that Mills is the right person to take it in
this direction (given the state of his current live performances)

BUT, I do feel a bit more respect knowing that his actions (misguided or
not) do have a definate purpose, rather than just egocentric flights of
fancy.

but that still doesn't explain why he refuse to let the sound guy keep him
from distorting bassbins.



On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Ploegmakers, Joost wrote:

 Well,

 I never thought this was possible, but reading your mail just made me
physically sick.

 I could comment on every single sentence, but I won't. I'm just too
upset. If what you are writing are actually truly the things that are going
on in Mr. Mills mind, I will never want anything to do with him ever again.
What an arrogant elitist artsy fartsy wannabe prick!
 I sincerely hope Jeff übermensch Mills will come to his senses soon
enough. Or that this is all not true of course.


 Joost



  -Original Message-
  From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: donderdag 15 januari 2004 17:04
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills
 
 
  When I met Jeff, he was a very nice caring person who was
  deeply concerned about the direction Techno was taking in
  Germany (!). He felt that he and Dimitri Hegemann from Tresor
  did a bad job back in the early Nineties because he pleaded
  guilty for conditioning people to consume Techno in dark
  boxes full of fog and strobes and didn't consider making it
  nicer for girls (which is, in his opinion, the reason why
  there are not so many girls embracing Techno)...
 
  We had a really long discussion and he admitted that he
  sometimes feels really removed from his audience. He said
  he'd never consume drugs because he would hate to put his
  company - and the people working for him - at risk...
 
  I don't think he is greedy... I think he is striving to be a
  real artist,
  sound- and concept-wise, that is accepted by educated
  people. This is, in my opinion, the reason, why he tries to
  employ these pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosophical
  thoughts on his sleeves written in bad English (which of
  course, are more expensive to make). Although he has done
  Metropolis and a lot of groundbreaking other projects, he is
  not really really accepted in the realms of high art,
  especially not in North America where a Techno artist would
  never reach the status of social acceptance he longs for. In
  Europe and Japan, people roll out the red carpet... here, he
  is the person who single-handedly established Techno in
  Berlin (well, at least that's what Dimi and Jeff both want to
  believe - themselves - and which is impossible to prove or disprove).
 
  I guess the things I just mentioned are integral parts of his
  personality and that might explain why he tries to make his
  label a sought-after commodity rather than being down with
  the locals. Drug-mongering simple minds are just not his
  thang as he was working hard 

Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craig Remix

2004-01-19 Thread Martin
It's not as bad as it sounds :) But I do know what you mean...

19/1/04 10:08 AM Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Probably the re-edit he played in the set that was posted on here a while
 ago?
 There's a Throbbing Gristle remix album coming out shortly, so its probably
 going to be on that. Personally, the idea fills me with dread, but there you
 go...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 19 January 2004 10:07
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 Subject: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog
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(313) Andres lp Mahogani M-5

2004-01-19 Thread Placid
Anyone know where I can pick one up,  Was asleep on thiss one and true to
form..it has completely disappeared...
Thnks

placid



(313) SONY....................BONY

2004-01-19 Thread Maxim Sullivan
And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler,
cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm


Max




RE: (313) SONY....................BONY

2004-01-19 Thread robin

but apple didn't do a trance version of jaguar like sony did. 


...and miraculously were back on topic

:)

robin...


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- 
- 
- And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks 
- much cooler,
- cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-)
- 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm


Max



(313) mills' exhibitionist

2004-01-19 Thread innercity
anyone know if the react 12 and the music man 12 are the same??
both are out this week but i can't find tracklistings anywhere.

www.innercity.co.uk






(313) label primers

2004-01-19 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
I wouldn't mind Phonopsia  Katrin Richter telling us a little more about Goya 
 Soundslike, and Freude Am Tanzen, which they mentioned in their posts last 
week - what releases would you recommend to check out first ?
Thanks in advance !
Gwendal


Re: (313) Detroit Soul Questions

2004-01-19 Thread David Bate
The Davina on Soul City is one of my favourite Mad Mike house tracks... 
hasn't left

my crate for a very long time ..

Dave

Cyclone Wehner wrote:

I recently bought the 1998 Davina CD Best Of Both Worlds on Loud and it's 
classy. I borrowed it back then but, while enjoying it, I didn't realise

then that she had a Detroit connection. I think my fave cut is still the
single So Good, which has a Mary J feel. I know she did some music with UR
ages ago, but I wonder what she's doing now?
I really think Loud failed Davina (and most of its small RB roster).

 






RE: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread Robert Taylor
It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck 
spotters.
It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl 
persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of 
autism.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Trainspotting


Weird!  That very film is playing right now on Channel 4 (UK).  
Trainspotter is an amusing derogatory term used to describe people who 
are  more interested in  the nuances and details of said pastime than 
the actual music itself- obsessions with labels, original pressings. 
catalogue numbers ad finitum.  It comes from the act of 
Trainspotting- an actual hobby where train enthusiasts stand in train 
stations and record the numbers of different trains and their types and 
compare notes.  I think most of us on the 313 could be described as 
trainspotters at one time or another :)

Jason


On 18 Jan 2004, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where did the term trainspotting come from?
 I know there was a film - which I didn't see.
 What does it mean?


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RE: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread Brendan Nelson
Isn't trainspotting ultimately descended from philately, 
the mother of all bizarrely obsessive hobbies for nerdy 
blokes?

I've heard that Asperger's argument before, and it does 
make a bit of sense to me to be honest; the whole idea 
of data being more fascinating to certain people than 
other humans are is common in trainspotters and in 
Asperger's sufferers. But on the other hand it could be 
argued that it's quite a natural thing to be nerdy and 
obsessive, with football and cars being the two biggest 
obsessions the typical male has. It's interesting that 
someone with an obsessive interest in football or cars 
tends to be seen in a different light than someone with 
an obsessive interest in music, computers or even trains. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 19 January 2004 16:41
 To: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313
 Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting
 
 
 It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach 
 spotters and truck spotters.
 It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes 
 those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from 
 Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.


(313) carl craig

2004-01-19 Thread alex . bond
 a Directions 12 with a Carl Craig mix (anthem
alert!

from piccadilly's mailing list.

don't suppose anyone has heard it?
you know I'm partial to the odd carl craig mix.

Carl Craig, you've got to love him.
(or I do anyway)

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RE: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
And equally interesting that people of the female gender hardly seem to
be affected by this anomaly...

Hmm, guess that's the reason why there's so few female DJs.

Joost

 It's interesting that 
 someone with an obsessive interest in football or cars 
 tends to be seen in a different light than someone with 
 an obsessive interest in music, computers or even trains. 
 
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  Sent: 19 January 2004 16:41
  To: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting
  
  
  It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach
  spotters and truck spotters.
  It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes 
  those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from 
  Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.
 


(313) telepathica equipment sale

2004-01-19 Thread FRED giannelli
telepathica equipment sale

Fender Princeton Reverb Amp.  Mid 70's.  excellent condition.
Roland TB-303 Bassline synthesizer.
Korg MS20
Korg MS50
Oberheim Matrix 1000

all best offer.

more info upon request

telepathic regards,
fRED



Re: (313) SONY....................BONY

2004-01-19 Thread yussel
first things to consider...

the 45 hours of music is encoded at 48kbs, which is pitiful quality. mp3's
at their 'lowest' quality should be 128- so your hours is now down to 15.

if 15 hours of music is all you're looking for, than there's much smaller-
cheaper- mp3 player out there than either the ipod or the sony.

also- i wonder how the music transfer works? it takes about 30 minutes to
load 30GB of music onto my ipod via USB2.

things to look into before buying.


On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Maxim Sullivan wrote:

 And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler,
 cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-)

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm


 Max





RE: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread yussel
i've often joked about the autism of my dj friends. like why does carlos
souffront know that the 2nd track on the b-side of the second disc of
brendan gillens's copy of minimal nation has a skip in it??!!

glad our scientists are on it ;)

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:

 It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck 
 spotters.
 It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl 
 persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of 
 autism.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:00 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313
 Subject: Re: (313) Trainspotting


 Weird!  That very film is playing right now on Channel 4 (UK).
 Trainspotter is an amusing derogatory term used to describe people who
 are  more interested in  the nuances and details of said pastime than
 the actual music itself- obsessions with labels, original pressings.
 catalogue numbers ad finitum.  It comes from the act of
 Trainspotting- an actual hobby where train enthusiasts stand in train
 stations and record the numbers of different trains and their types and
 compare notes.  I think most of us on the 313 could be described as
 trainspotters at one time or another :)

 Jason


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  Where did the term trainspotting come from?
  I know there was a film - which I didn't see.
  What does it mean?
 

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RE: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread yussel
 It's interesting that
 someone with an obsessive interest in football or cars
 tends to be seen in a different light than someone with
 an obsessive interest in music, computers or even trains.

I totally agree, especially considering that the mainstream occupations
are passive (watching football) or fantastic (how many people can afford a
'dream' car)

I guess we're lazy animals that can relate to passive occupations more
than active ones like collecting records or hanging out in train yards.





  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 19 January 2004 16:41
  To: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: 313
  Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting
 
 
  It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach
  spotters and truck spotters.
  It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes
  those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from
  Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.



Re: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread /0
you're a lucky man if your true dreams are of a creative nature, imo


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting


  It's interesting that
  someone with an obsessive interest in football or cars
  tends to be seen in a different light than someone with
  an obsessive interest in music, computers or even trains.

 I totally agree, especially considering that the mainstream occupations
 are passive (watching football) or fantastic (how many people can afford a
 'dream' car)

 I guess we're lazy animals that can relate to passive occupations more
 than active ones like collecting records or hanging out in train yards.




 
   -Original Message-
   From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 19 January 2004 16:41
   To: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: 313
   Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting
  
  
   It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach
   spotters and truck spotters.
   It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes
   those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from
   Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.
 



Re: (313) Trainspotting - aspergers?

2004-01-19 Thread DJ Entropy

From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach
spotters and truck spotters.
It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes
those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from
Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.



Where did you hear that?  My 20 year old brother is Asperger's/autistic 
and he doesn't collect or spot anything.  I'm not disagreeing with you, 
I ask because maybe getting him into something like that would help him 
out a bit; he's a bit lost in life (as autistic people tend to be).









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Re: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread David Easy
 I totally agree, especially considering that the mainstream occupations
 are passive (watching football) or fantastic (how many people can afford a
 'dream' car)

 I guess we're lazy animals that can relate to passive occupations more
 than active ones like collecting records or hanging out in train yards.


I'm not sure I agree with the statement that 'music' is more of an active
pastime than 'football' or 'cars' for that matter.  Watching football can be
a very (inter-)active experience, believe me.  There's more to it than just
sitting in front of the telly every weekend.

going to record shops/ going 'clubbing' = going to football matches

buying records = buying programmes/tickets (just as collectable)

dj'ing = playing football

True football fans are just as passionate about their pastime as music
lovers (not that the two are mutually exclusive!), and for every music
mailing list/messageboard there's one dedicated to sport.




Re: (313) SONY....................BONY

2004-01-19 Thread audax
The new iPod Mini's are way cool.

http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/

K.

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, January 19, 2004 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: (313) SONYBONY

 first things to consider...
 
 the 45 hours of music is encoded at 48kbs, which is pitiful 
 quality. mp3's
 at their 'lowest' quality should be 128- so your hours is now down 
 to 15.
 
 if 15 hours of music is all you're looking for, than there's much 
 smaller-
 cheaper- mp3 player out there than either the ipod or the sony.
 
 also- i wonder how the music transfer works? it takes about 30 
 minutes to
 load 30GB of music onto my ipod via USB2.
 
 things to look into before buying.
 
 
 On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Maxim Sullivan wrote:
 
  And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much 
 cooler, cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-)
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm
 
 
  Max
 
 
 
 



(313) house stuff

2004-01-19 Thread Philip

Peeps

Anyone know if the cassandra wilson 'vodou ep' on spiritual life is out
yet or just a promo ? the review in 'keep on' sounds very tasty...thanx

p



(313) Keith Tucker and Max Durante

2004-01-19 Thread Martin
Announce new project:
http://www.littledetroit.net/News/artl.php?id=51


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Re: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread Mark S . Krüx
 I'm not sure I agree with the statement that 'music' is more of an active
 pastime than 'football' or 'cars' for that matter.

As a total car geek I'd have to agree with the above statementsure there
aren't many that can afford the 'car of their dreams' but even someone of
modest means could go out and buy a reasonably priced sportscar,  then work
on it,  race it or whatever.  Hardly passive imo...



Re: (313) Trainspotting

2004-01-19 Thread yussel
i was referring to the fact that most car enthusiast (and arm chair
quarterbacks) don't do any of the things mentioned.

I'm not suprised that people on this list DO in fact get active with their
car/football/record obsessions.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, [iso-8859-1] Mark S. Krüx wrote:

  I'm not sure I agree with the statement that 'music' is more of an active
  pastime than 'football' or 'cars' for that matter.

 As a total car geek I'd have to agree with the above statementsure there
 aren't many that can afford the 'car of their dreams' but even someone of
 modest means could go out and buy a reasonably priced sportscar,  then work
 on it,  race it or whatever.  Hardly passive imo...




Re: (313) Keith Tucker and Max Durante

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew

Martin wrote:

Announce new project:
http://www.littledetroit.net/News/artl.php?id=51



Weird - is that Digital System that came out a while back on Puzzlebox?

One of my all-time faves, sounds totally analogue, 'out' and funky.