Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement

2004-06-02 Thread /0
grrr, maybe nikis is haunted

I played there sunday and had all kinds of stupid electrical bullshxt
problems.

we ended up being able to use only one laptop. :((


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 Yeah, there was this group on the main Sunday (around 6?) that were trying
 to get the crowd into it and they were doing a cross house/gospel/soul
 thing. The people sitting in the bowl looked like they were all
 experiencing general malaise at not hearing techno even in its most
 homogenous form. I think they would have been happier even with the most
 commercial trance. Don't get me wrong, the band was really musically
 speaking as far being musicians, but that why there's the Jazzfest.

 It was definitely night and day from when Ayro got down on the main stage
 last year, even with all of the live musicians he had backing him up, you
 could feel the electronic portion of his set. And when he created his
 percussion patterns live and recorded them into his set on the fly (very
 nice).

 It would have been cool to see Dan Bell in the underground stage this
 year..definitely one my highlights last year. I went to a loft party
 Saturday night at Nikki's that was hot as the freaking Congo, but the
 music was hot. Still don't know who was playing (too fried to ask any
 questions by that point. It went until seven but around 5:30 this blonde
 guy came with the craziest combination of sounds and structures that was
 exactly what the moment called for. At first everyone was thinking he had
 destroyed his laptop/speakers etc. but it ended up being part of the whole
 affair. Very refreshing even if the locale was not because of the heat.
 I'm going to drop all of the pics I took somewhere soon.

 All in all..really enjoyable weekend...

 Peace,
 Alex

 P.S. Thanks to anyone on here that came out to the Ultradyne show on
 Sunday. Good to see a decent crowd for one of our shows in Detroit...



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 too much terrible vocal house IMO.

 had it not been for the underground stage, I'd have skipped monday and
 possibly sunday night.

 sorry to hate, just being honest.
 -Joe

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  I'm sure most of you who went aren't back yet - but Alex and I want
  answers! ;)
 
  So - which tracks did you hear the most and which ones were the top?
  Any new tracks that made their debuts that we should be on the lookout
 for?
 
  can't wait to see pictures
 
  MEK
 






Re: (313) Carl Craig/Talking Heads

2004-06-02 Thread James_Bucknell




i realy like this edit - but not all of it.
i really like where the vocals come in. the instrumental part of the edit i
don't like.
the reason i like it is that mixing into the original of 'once in a
lifetime' can be a bitch. and this edit leaves the vocal part pretty much
unchanged from the original but makes it easier to mix into and out of.
it's the best re-edit of once in a lifetime that i know of. much better
than the masters at work.

yesterday i picked-up a comp of old electro - 'bionic breaks' compiled by
boris dlugosh (sp?). never listened to any of his productions, but this is
a solid round up. half the tracks i already have - man parrish, hashim,
newcleus. but the other half are such gems it made it worth the money.
The Russell Brothers - The Party Scene
 Project Future - Ray-gun-omics
 Davy DMX - One For The Treble
 C.O.D - In The Bottle (vocal) (the instrumental is on a freddy fresh comp)
 Gary's Gang - Makin Music

james
www.jbucknell.com






   
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In #1 position they listed Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (Carl
Craig Edit)
Does anybody know anything about this?

As mentioned before, Moxie...

Does anyone else think this is rubbish?

Don't like how he edited it at all, not one bit.
How on earth they put it at number 1, I'll never know.

blah blah.
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(313) Old School Gems (was Re: CC/Talking Heads)

2004-06-02 Thread Ian Malbon


On Jun 1, 2004, at 8:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yesterday i picked-up a comp of old electro - 'bionic breaks' compiled 
by...

...but the other half are such gems it made it worth the money.
 Davy DMX - One For The Treble


This was possibly my first exposure to hip-hop/electronic dance music, 
on a radio show in 1981 or 82.
I remember using the word FRESH way too much for my high school peers 
for a few days afterwards.


Congrats on finding it.
--
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Re: (313) Movement

2004-06-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any pics of [EMAIL PROTECTED] f***ed up and lying in a corner would be 
appreciated

im pretty sure there are some pics of me and him kinda ripped 
around, i forget who might have taken them. now that i can talk 
and think again i can interact with 313 people again without 
acting like a fool. ill write my review in a little while, but for 
now ill just say that tristan and jason brunton might be the best 
people ive ever met through the internet. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


(313) (ot) BBC documentary

2004-06-02 Thread diana potts

Race is often discussed here. I haven't read/listened
to the complete listing, however thought some would
find it interesting...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tx/documentaries/blackinussr.shtml




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(313) Movement festival interviews on Die Maschine

2004-06-02 Thread Gerald
Thought I'd forward this along...

A friend of mine (Amanda) conducted a few interviews while in Detroit.
Here's the deets:

Die Maschine Radio Show: Wednesday 10:00-11:00 PM EST

CIUT, 89.5 FM (Toronto + area)
Online: mms://69.13.133.200/ciut
Call us: 1-416-946-7000

This week, two Interviews from the Movement Festival  the Tronic
Treatment / Seismic Records Party in Detroit:

Movement Festival DJ and Organizer
Kevin Saunderson (KMS Productions, www.worldofdeep.com)
+
Tobias Von Hofstien 
(Pusstracks.com, Illegal.se, Drumcode, Sweden)
+
Nick Nelson - Host  DJ 

Tune In!

+ More Interviews from The Movement Festival and Mutek (Montreal) will
air over the next few weeks.

Cheers!

--
www.gerald-matrix.com






Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement

2004-06-02 Thread yussel
 
  that was Vladislav Delay (Luomo)
 
 

 I was there until Luomo left the stage around 2:30 or so.  Did he play a
 second set?  If so, was it more material from 'vocal city' or did he
 indulge in some older treats?


this was the night before his Luomo set at Time Square


Re: (313) Movement

2004-06-02 Thread lisa

LOL!  :)  I'll hope to get pix up on Wednesday.

Lisa


theREALmxyzptlk wrote:

At 11:29 AM 6/1/2004, Robert Taylor wrote:


Any pics of [EMAIL PROTECTED] f***ed up and lying in a corner would be 
appreciated



I know Lisa (ubergirl) got a good one of him dancing in front of the 
high tech stage; she turned to me and said that one's going online.
She spent an extra day here to shop, so I'd wait a bit and ask her about 
that one :-)


jeff







RE: (313) Carl Craig/Talking Heads

2004-06-02 Thread Ken Odeluga
yesterday i picked-up a comp of old electro - 'bionic breaks' compiled by
boris dlugosh (sp?). never listened to any of his productions, but this is
a solid round up. half the tracks i already have - man parrish, hashim,
newcleus. but the other half are such gems it made it worth the money.

Boris Dlugosch has been responsible for some of the (semi?) seminal moments
in club music but also in that time he's been responsible for perhaps some
music which we on 313 would find amongst the worst kind of club music
produced.


He's only done about 4 EPs of his own but he must be in the 200s in terms of
remixes.

He's never shown any great allegiance to the stuff which we would find good
for the mind body and soul, it seems to me.

At least the tracklist of that comp seems to show some good taste.

k



RE: (313) Carl Craig/Talking Heads

2004-06-02 Thread Robert Taylor
I think I bought once one of his records, Peppermint Lounge or something - it's 
sh!te

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yesterday i picked-up a comp of old electro - 'bionic breaks' compiled by
boris dlugosh (sp?). never listened to any of his productions, but this is
a solid round up. half the tracks i already have - man parrish, hashim,
newcleus. but the other half are such gems it made it worth the money.

Boris Dlugosch has been responsible for some of the (semi?) seminal moments
in club music but also in that time he's been responsible for perhaps some
music which we on 313 would find amongst the worst kind of club music
produced.


He's only done about 4 EPs of his own but he must be in the 200s in terms of
remixes.

He's never shown any great allegiance to the stuff which we would find good
for the mind body and soul, it seems to me.

At least the tracklist of that comp seems to show some good taste.

k

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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread ddonohue
It' was by far one of the most disorganized events I've been to, that is
on this sort of scale.  The best part, was that no one let it get them
down, and everyone had a mad time anyways.

The UR party was the best show i've ever seen in my life.  the soul jam
was a religious type experience for magda and i.

More to come after we get some much needed sleep.

dense.

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 There's an interesting story in the Detroit Free Press today. Check it
 out.

 http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move1_20040601.htm

 I think the most poignant statement is this:


 From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
 But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot.

 Detroit can't let this slip away.

 this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
 I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF should read this

 I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I can go again
 next year
 where do I send my check?

 MEK




RE: (313) Carl Craig/Talking Heads

2004-06-02 Thread alex . bond


Cos they want to sell it...i actually have this record, and bought it on
the strength of a rather awesome segment on the gino soccio side,
unfortunately it only plays once...waste of 20 bucks...its not even
really in time or tune in places...bit like some of the new delsin
stuff, I really don't get it...a lot of the new northern european stuff
is really good at being self hyped...

Yeah, but the Unabombers having nothing to do with it! They have no reason
to want to sell it.
That's why I said it..
B side is ace, agreed.
dunno what you're on about re. the delsin stuff, some of the best techno
around IMO.

Alex

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Re: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread ddonohue
TO start, , the festival planning should start in july, not in January.
The timing issue is so important when you have a scaled festival like
this, with such large out of town support.  People in europe want to know
they aren't throwing away their money before they spend upwards of 500
euros for plane tix.

Even on top of that, the line-up wasn't even anounced until the week
before the festival, which kept alot of the parties /people from being
able to plan around it.  I was talking to Mike from Threads, and he said
that usually he gets a stream of customers during DEMF weekend, that is
larger than his xmas crowd, but this year was just like a normal week for
him.  I'm not sure all of the implications of that statement, but I'm
willing to bet that the lack of planning on the part of the festival
played a major part.

dense.

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 Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

 So what part of the business do they need to run better?
  Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy part?
 Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
 part?
 Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
 getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
 I'd like to know...

 Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
 going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to happen
 again.

 How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?

 MEK




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   I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business classes.
 ~E

 From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
 But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot. Detroit
 can't let this slip away.

 this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
 I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF
 should read this

 I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I
 can go again next year
 where do I send my check?






RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread quest pond
upwards of 500 euros for plane tix.

LOL if only it were that cheap from here! with costs well over 1k euros from
australia. First i want to know i'm going to get into the country and then
secondly that a party is actually going be happening. A line up is important
well well in advance.

I'm not bagging the Movement, good on mr May and Co for such an excellent
effort and im sorry i couldnt go. I'm just adding to others comments.

Could there be a possibility of artists paying for stages if they don't
already or charging for entry? I mean if i'm paying all that money of a
stupid air-fare what is a bit extra to guarantee and event happens? It also
keep out people who don't really give a damn, and would put rubish in money
collection bins.

Quest Pond

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TO start, , the festival planning should start in july, not in January.
The timing issue is so important when you have a scaled festival like
this, with such large out of town support.  People in europe want to know
they aren't throwing away their money before they spend upwards of 500
euros for plane tix.

Even on top of that, the line-up wasn't even anounced until the week
before the festival, which kept alot of the parties /people from being
able to plan around it.  I was talking to Mike from Threads, and he said
that usually he gets a stream of customers during DEMF weekend, that is
larger than his xmas crowd, but this year was just like a normal week for
him.  I'm not sure all of the implications of that statement, but I'm
willing to bet that the lack of planning on the part of the festival
played a major part.

dense.

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





 Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

 So what part of the business do they need to run better?
  Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy part?
 Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
 part?
 Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
 getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
 I'd like to know...

 Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
 going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to happen
 again.

 How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?

 MEK




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   I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business classes.
 ~E

 From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
 But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot. Detroit
 can't let this slip away.

 this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
 I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF
 should read this

 I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I
 can go again next year
 where do I send my check?







RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread Simon Hindle
It seems like there's a fair bit of weight given to monetary concerns
after each movement/DEMF event - stories of Derrick May hitting his
folks up for cash, contractors threatening to walk out and so on...

From reading reports, it's apparent that so far the organisers have had
to make Herculean struggles to get the event going each year, and
perhaps that's part of the whole event - perhaps the struggle is as
important as the event itself, or synonymous with it in some esoteric
artistic way.

It seems to me that the two quickest routes to a less stressful
breakeven are sponsorship or charging on the door. I can understand
immediately the ethical concerns with sponsorship, but are the
organisers so idealistic that they wouldn't ask for even five bucks on
the door? Hell, if they're that keen to not charge for an event they
could just make it really easy to sneak in (ie not have fences or
security solely to keep out intruders) so that the only people who pay
are those who feel obliged to do so from their own personal moral
standpoint. That seems like a bit more of a pragmatic approach than
having donation boxes full of half-eaten cheeseburgers.

I'm sure that even if they did that they'd at least generate enough
revenue from ticket sales to cover the logistical costs of doing so - at
least then they'd still have that seemingly important struggle to
contend with!

all IMHO, naturally.


(313) Sensible Festival, Paris

2004-06-02 Thread Ken Odeluga
There's some more info on the website for French speakers.

http://www.logisticrecords.com

Also, Substance remix of Monobox might be interesting ...


June 11-13.

Daniel Bell (live)
Dandy Jack (live)
Pantytec (live)
Cabanne (live)
Akufen (live)
Krikor (live)
Rip Off Artist (live)
Baby Ford (dj)
Zip (dj)
Zip (aka Dimbiman)
Daniel Bell (dj)

Logistic Records

40, rue des Blancs-Manteaux, Paris 75004, France


Nouveau Casino
109, rue Oberkampf, 75011 Paris
Préventes Katapult – forfait WE festival 25 euros
Sur place 14 euros par soir / 8 euros l’after.

Infos : http://www.logisticrecords.com/events.php / http://www.katapult.fr



(313) movement reports/photo's

2004-06-02 Thread alex . bond
been reading about movement here.
http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=33

also photo's here...
http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=33;action=display;threadid=16726

and I'm sure Tristan is on one of these!
http://angie.datavibe.net/DEMF2004/

ha ha, spot the pikey!!

hope no one minds me posting them. oh well.

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RE: (313) movement reports/photo's

2004-06-02 Thread Robert Taylor

He looks relatively sober there - I'm disappointed!
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http://angie.datavibe.net/DEMF2004/

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(313) Pick n Mix

2004-06-02 Thread Michael Lees

Hadn't recorded a mix in a while and needed a new one for the mp3 player.

It's online here if anyone wants a listen 
http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/%7Emhl/Sound%201.mp3


lots of Basic channel, Main Street, Traum, etc . I can sort out a track 
list if people want one, should think most people will recognise the 
tracks though.



oh, the levels aren't great on the first two tracks.
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(313) Vince Watson -- Liveset 001 LD Exclusive

2004-06-02 Thread Martin Dust
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Vince Watson -- Liveset 001 LD Exclusive


Pure Innersense - F Comm Records 2005
Optimize - Bio 016 test
Altitude - Bio 008 
Mystical Rhythm - Alola Records
Meaning of Life - F Comm Records 2005
Radiance - Bio 013 
Timeless - Bio 005 
Tranquil Minds (3rd mix) - Unreleased
Tranquil Minds (1st mix) - Unreleased

Most of you will know that we've had Vince down for Going Large in 2004,
it's pretty hard for us to hide that fact that we love his stuff at LD
Towers.

So in a totally live and exclusive set for LittleDetroit, we proudly present
Vince Watson and his machines. It's sweet and very smooth set with a flavour
of Detroit and the deep beats of Glasgow, with his trademark bass kick
breathing heavily below a mind mesh rhythms of quality techno, sit back,
relax and then jack!

http://www.littledetroit.net/Downloads/index.php

The Very Rev. Martin Dust
The Church of Final Judgement



RE: (313) Vince Watson -- Liveset 001 LD Exclusive

2004-06-02 Thread iancheshire
Excellent!! (as Mr Burns would say)

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

Vince Watson -- Liveset 001 LD Exclusive


Pure Innersense - F Comm Records 2005
Optimize - Bio 016 test
Altitude - Bio 008
Mystical Rhythm - Alola Records
Meaning of Life - F Comm Records 2005
Radiance - Bio 013
Timeless - Bio 005
Tranquil Minds (3rd mix) - Unreleased
Tranquil Minds (1st mix) - Unreleased

Most of you will know that we've had Vince down for Going Large in 
2004,
it's pretty hard for us to hide that fact that we love his stuff at LD
Towers.

So in a totally live and exclusive set for LittleDetroit, we proudly 
present
Vince Watson and his machines. It's sweet and very smooth set with a 
flavour
of Detroit and the deep beats of Glasgow, with his trademark bass kick
breathing heavily below a mind mesh rhythms of quality techno, sit back,
relax and then jack!

http://www.littledetroit.net/Downloads/index.php

The Very Rev. Martin Dust
The Church of Final Judgement






RE: (313) movement reports/photo's

2004-06-02 Thread Andrew
Nobody should EVER have such indignities committed against them.

OK, I've been out for three days, I REALLY want a huge close-up shot to
appear on the web!



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He looks relatively sober there - I'm disappointed! -Original
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RE: (313) movement reports/photo's

2004-06-02 Thread Robert Taylor
He's posted plenty of pics of himself looking worse than that on his site - 
must be some kind of attention seeker I guess - ;)

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Nobody should EVER have such indignities committed against them.

OK, I've been out for three days, I REALLY want a huge close-up shot to
appear on the web!



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He looks relatively sober there - I'm disappointed! -Original
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RE: (313) movement reports/photo's

2004-06-02 Thread iancheshire
ha ha that will be Tristan :)
 
but to give him his dues he can look worse for wear and still perform ythe best 
sets ..hats off to ya my man!

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He's posted plenty of pics of himself looking worse than that on his 
site - must be some kind of attention seeker I guess - ;)

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Nobody should EVER have such indignities committed against them.

OK, I've been out for three days, I REALLY want a huge close-up shot to
appear on the web!



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He looks relatively sober there - I'm disappointed! -Original
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and I'm sure Tristan is on one of these! 
http://angie.datavibe.net/DEMF2004/



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(313) Movement Photos (and Thanks)

2004-06-02 Thread Kent williams
I took loads and loads and loads of pictures, and told many people I'd have
them up very soon.  I will be doing it very soon but I have to sort out
which ones are going to be exclusive for publications.

Thanks to everyone I got to meet, or hang out with again! Really effing great
meeting Stefan Robbers at long last. If I talked to you and promised to e-mail
you please hit me back because I was on music/people overload by about 3am
friday, and can't even begin to remember everything I've promised to do for
folks!

Big thanks to Terrence Parker for mentioning me in his write up in the Festival
program. Finally something about my music that impressed my wife!



Re: (313) movement reports/photo's

2004-06-02 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
thanks for the links alex, 's a pity that most of them dont have
captions
have a lovely day old chap
fab

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 been reading about movement here.
 http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=33

 also photo's here...
 http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=33;action=display;threadid=16726

 and I'm sure Tristan is on one of these!
 http://angie.datavibe.net/DEMF2004/

 ha ha, spot the pikey!!

 hope no one minds me posting them. oh well.

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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread Redmond, Ja'Maul
I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here
(charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we have
and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you guys
in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the city. 

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Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

So what part of the business do they need to run better?
 Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy
part?
Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
part?
Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
I'd like to know...

Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to
happen again.

How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?

MEK



 

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  I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business
classes.
~E

From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot.
Detroit
can't let this slip away.

this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF
should read this

I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so
I
can go again next year
where do I send my check?







(313) Movement Report

2004-06-02 Thread Phonopsia
A few hundred pictures later we are back safely in London. Hannah and I had
a great festival. I thought it was as good as last year or the second year,
and really have trouble measuring the greatness of the festivals side by
side except to say that the first wil always be the best (as you'd expect)
and the third held the least appeal for me personally. Anyway... I think
everything I saw at the festival this year was excellent. That was:

Derek Plaslaiko
Cam Amp DJs
Amp Fiddler
TP + MoReese
Fat Freddy's Drop
Alton Miller
Ron Trent
Danny Krivit
Sean Deason
Aardvark
All Out K
Kenny Larkin
Electrofunk

A couple of scheduling collisions mean I missed a few things I most wanted
to see, but... you'll have that every year. Long sets meant it looks like we
didn't see that much but we watched most of these acts straight through.

Top three highlights of the afterparties were:

Claude Young and Shawn Rudiman (unfortunately the only bit of that I caught)
Mathew Jonson Live
Carlos Souffront

Only huge dissapointment was the Osunlade no-show. :(

All told, I think the thing that will stand out the most for me about this
year's festival was how funny it was, like:

May is Drinking Water Month in Detroit
Derek Plaslaiko playing 'Baby Got Back'
The Japanese fella and the chicken-white-girl-hater wrestling
The Hard Rock Cafe playing Rob Hood on its outdoor speakers
Derrick May on a golf cart with bullhorn in-hand, demanding people's money
Kenny Larking getting heckled for a comedy routine
The cleaning lady at the Shorecrest showering Pittsburgh and Iowa with a
trash can

Argh... I'm going on far too long. Need sleep. Full report with loads of
pics forthcoming. Big ups to technotouring friends new and old plus the
Detroit folk who make this happen every year.

Tristan
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(313) Movement report (for alex :P)

2004-06-02 Thread J. T.

i guess this is mostly for you alex...hey!
it was a fun weekend, tho i forgot how much festivals freak me out. too many 
people. too many nasty people. too tired to be around so many people.
most everything i saw at the festival i enjoyed, tho i didnt see a whole 
lot.
saturday it was novamen, who were fantastic (nice alden tyrell covers too! 
they revealed later that during 'love explosion' they were singing 'f*ck 
alden tyrell' and other disses hahaha), legowelt (whose sound sucked 
unfortunately, until the last 3 or 4 songs)...came back after dinner to hear 
jaylib and pbw, all very nice, pbw played lots of nice disco and funk stuff. 
jaylib were jaylib!
sunday, arrived to hear the end of louis haiman's liveset on the mainstage, 
which was phenomenal, beautiful and deep, very very transmat..then over to 
duplex who were excellent as well. took a break to go to submerge, came back 
for orlando, great tracks and great mixing, terrible sound...also there were 
so many ravers down there it got me really depressed. so it was nice to 
watch ron trent for awhile (where there were virtually no phatdawgs, and 
great sound), lots of great prescriptiony house and loads of other good 
stuff i'm not remembering now...jamie principle, fingers, a dancemania thing 
or two, eddy grant, etc. then tried to watch some francois k, he started 
with ur but from there it was really hard and boring. wish i had known T!M 
is frame six, and owner of grammar, he has great taste in techno and makes 
very very nice tracks himself, but we left without checking..
monday, aardvarck and all out k were very nice, lots of hiphop and dope 
broken beats from aardvarck, lots of nice house from all out k. nice relaxed 
audience/atmosphere. kenny larkin played a couple nice tracks but was mostly 
banging and boring, and the sound was once again too loud/bassy (very good 
during aardvarck and christiaan tho). kai alce was great, loads of good 
house and old disco etc..genesis live was great, superb drummer, great band 
all around, they performed that betty wright song from the omar s. 
record..missed most of electrofunk live but what i saw was so dope...kevin 
saunderson was godawful, started with drexciya intro from drexciya 4, then 
spastik, and big fun and red 3 were in there somewhere, but everything else 
was trance/progressive, realyy bad...kevin reynolds was insane 
good...probably the liveset i enjoyed the most of the whole festival. 
recloose started with some nice songs, no ufo's, carl craig remix of la funk 
mob, but it was time to leave for the ur party.


afterpartiesminto was a madman at the wheel fri night and we arrived at 
the green light go party way too late to get in, so we went over to the 
ayro/recloose/john arnold etc one, and had a great time. nice interesting 
stuff from ayro (great live keys!), extrmely good liveset from john 
arnold! i love all his housier stuff especially, and just a great 
performer..nice to run into the rh guys here too. only negative was that 
there was some sleazy gay dude in the audience who kept trying to bump n 
grind with me and several others from my crew..


no afterparties for us sat night, just late night denny's. sunday night tho, 
novamen and ultradyne (we missed jan d, mesu kasumai, jan d, counter 
couture, and polarius/speculator)...just an incredible time, awesome stuff 
from novamen, better than their movement performance, and 
ultradyneinsanethe sound was thru some pretty pathetic peavey 
speakers unfortunately, but the quality of the music...damnvery close 
runner up to the ur partyas for that, not even worth describing, 
deserves better words than i can say..best liveset i've ever seen, best show 
i've ever been to...


techno brings people together was fun too, shake was cracking everybody 
up...i agree with that guy. nice dj'ing from strand, nice songs from scan 7, 
very tasty food made by trackmaster lou, great set from mitch walcott, great 
people. as always meeting people and seeing frieds was the real highlight of 
the weekend, nice to finally meet matt macQ! jwan! jason! shawn! curt, adam, 
tom and all the other technoirs, kent, john o, alex lugo, toronto and 
vancouver peeps, laura and silvan from paris...and to see again dan sicko, 
shake, yusef, kj, gabe, bethany, tommy, everbody..and especially all the 
dutch people who spent most of the time with, stefan (who had all his gear 
with him but nowhere to play! :(), aida, kj, danny, ingmar and overdose, 
corine, christiaan and antal, chris  john, mike kivits...and really great 
hanging with philip mcgarva mr microworld the whole weekend..deeply regret 
not getting to meet robin and chris, and that alex, stewart, tom (?) and 
everybody else couldnt make it..


my only real complaints are that it was very frustrating that the sound on 
the underground stage consistently sucked, and that the overriding rule for 
the sound guys was to make everything as banging as possible...but 
generally, is 

RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P)

2004-06-02 Thread J. T.
it was NOT nice meeting tristan..:P just playing! i accidentally deleted 
your name from my list of shouts..no pikeys allowed! sorry we couldnt chat 
more...i was so tired...


anyways, i hope they were able to raise a bunch of money and it happens 
again next year...


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RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P)

2004-06-02 Thread Robert Taylor
My god, has Aloominum Boy been teaching you all English slang?

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it was NOT nice meeting tristan..:P just playing! i accidentally deleted 
your name from my list of shouts..no pikeys allowed! sorry we couldnt chat 
more...i was so tired...

anyways, i hope they were able to raise a bunch of money and it happens 
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(313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Andrew
very close runner up to the ur party

Man, I keep hearing how good the Timeline show was...can anyone get us a
fairly detailed report on it? Tracks, venue, crowd, etc. Also whether Mike
had a balaclava on. Thanks.



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it was NOT nice meeting tristan..:P just playing! i accidentally deleted 
your name from my list of shouts..no pikeys allowed! sorry we couldnt chat 
more...i was so tired...

anyways, i hope they were able to raise a bunch of money and it happens 
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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread Steward, Tim
Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least
for me.
These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for  the
10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth
of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my budget.
There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a major
sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown last year
and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they need the
clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of money to put
up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be tapped.
Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival  july 11-12 which I plan
to
attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead of joining
forces
with the movement festival.
And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement needs to be
properly
communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had old demf signs
up.
I know that's petty but I noticed it. 
Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label needs to
contribute
so that a city wide effort is put forth. 
The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were politics
involved
last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so it was out in
the
open not behind the scenes like last year.
Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a good show.
So I send them one big Techno Thank You..
Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon @nikkis
with negative-saucer which was a cool small set. 


Tim

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I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here
(charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we have
and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you guys
in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the city. 

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Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

So what part of the business do they need to run better?
 Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy
part?
Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
part?
Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
I'd like to know...

Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to
happen again.

How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?

MEK



 

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  I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business
classes.
~E

From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot.
Detroit
can't let this slip away.

this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF
should read this

I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so
I
can go again next year
where do I send my check?







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Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread alex . bond

Man, I keep hearing how good the Timeline show was...can anyone get us a
fairly detailed report on it? Tracks, venue, crowd, etc. Also whether Mike
had a balaclava on. Thanks.

Yeah, I need to know what colour socks Buzz Goree had on as well if anyone
has a minute.

; )

I know this is a bit of an ask, but does anyone know if they recorded this
party at all?
h, I hope they did.

or how's about the Ultradyne? Alex did you record it? or flippin 'eck, did
anyone record anything?
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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread J. T.

There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a major


what about miller, mtv europe, panasonic, and everybody's favorite...Big 
Boy! (ok maybe that's not major, but it was great)


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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread iancheshire
was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year -doh!- 
but Red Bull in Europe
do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to help...but as 
you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands
 
also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's thru and 
thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be honest I find 
it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and producing net 
along  trying to organise a free event for the masses so hats off to Derrick, 
Kevin and Co...

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Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:38 
To: 313@hyperreal.org 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement



Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least
for me.
These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for  the
10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth
of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my budget.
There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a major
sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown last 
year
and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they need 
the
clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of money 
to put
up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be tapped.
Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival  july 11-12 which I 
plan
to
attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead of 
joining
forces
with the movement festival.
And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement needs to 
be
properly
communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had old demf 
signs
up.
I know that's petty but I noticed it.
Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label needs to
contribute
so that a city wide effort is put forth.
The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were politics
involved
last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so it was 
out in
the
open not behind the scenes like last year.
Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a good 
show.
So I send them one big Techno Thank You..
Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon @nikkis
with negative-saucer which was a cool small set.


Tim

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From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Erin Bate
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; /0
Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement


I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here
(charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we have
and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you guys
in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the city.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement





Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

So what part of the business do they need to run better?
 Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy
part?
Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
part?
Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
I'd like to know...

Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to
happen again.

How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?

MEK





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Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread David Beattie
Im sure I bought a copy of Rolando's set from For
Those Who Know 2 last year so you never know, we might
be lucky ;-)

either that or with the work that they must have put
into the show we could be even luckier and they might
decide to do a mini tour to let us see it for
ourselves

Cheers
BT 


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 Man, I keep hearing how good the Timeline show
 was...can anyone get us a
 fairly detailed report on it? Tracks, venue, crowd,
 etc. Also whether Mike
 had a balaclava on. Thanks.
 
 Yeah, I need to know what colour socks Buzz Goree
 had on as well if anyone
 has a minute.
 
 ; )
 
 I know this is a bit of an ask, but does anyone know
 if they recorded this
 party at all?
 h, I hope they did.
 
 or how's about the Ultradyne? Alex did you record
 it? or flippin 'eck, did
 anyone record anything?

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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread Steward, Tim
I'm not saying anything negative about the Derrick,Kevin and co..
it's my city Detroit I'm talking about the city does not support
the music like they do other events, just a couple weeks ago they
had the hip hop summit, which was supported. The city sees our event
as a chance to milk us listeners for the money, but not kick out any...
These are the same reasons why many artist have left the city...

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was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year
-doh!- but Red Bull in Europe
do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to help...but
as you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands
 
also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's thru
and thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be honest
I find it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and
producing net along  trying to organise a free event for the masses so hats
off to Derrick, Kevin and Co...

-Original Message- 
From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:38 
To: 313@hyperreal.org 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement



Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least
for me.
These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for  the
10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth
of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my
budget.
There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a
major
sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown
last year
and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they
need the
clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of
money to put
up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be tapped.
Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival  july 11-12
which I plan
to
attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead of
joining
forces
with the movement festival.
And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement needs
to be
properly
communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had old
demf signs
up.
I know that's petty but I noticed it.
Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label needs to
contribute
so that a city wide effort is put forth.
The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were
politics
involved
last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so it
was out in
the
open not behind the scenes like last year.
Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a good
show.
So I send them one big Techno Thank You..
Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon
@nikkis
with negative-saucer which was a cool small set.


Tim

-Original Message-
From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Erin Bate
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; /0
Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement


I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here
(charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we
have
and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you
guys
in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the
city.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:17 PM
To: Erin Bate
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; /0
Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement





Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

So what part of the business do they need to run better?
 Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy
part?
Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some
cash
part?
Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money
or
getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major
debt?

RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread iancheshire
sorry Tim I wasn't saying you didn't support them,  I was just saying hats off 
to them anyway :)
 
but yeah it is sad that the city choose one event and not another event...I 
mean they must make good tourism money to invest at least a fare amount of 
money into it?tyical of many cities though sadly :(
 

-Original Message- 
From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:52 
To: 313@hyperreal.org 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement



I'm not saying anything negative about the Derrick,Kevin and co..
it's my city Detroit I'm talking about the city does not support
the music like they do other events, just a couple weeks ago they
had the hip hop summit, which was supported. The city sees our event
as a chance to milk us listeners for the money, but not kick out any...
These are the same reasons why many artist have left the city...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:48 AM
To: Steward, Tim; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement


was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year
-doh!- but Red Bull in Europe
do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to 
help...but
as you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands

also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's 
thru
and thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be 
honest
I find it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and
producing net along  trying to organise a free event for the masses so 
hats
off to Derrick, Kevin and Co...

-Original Message-
From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:38
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Cc:
Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
   
   

Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at 
least
for me.
These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for  
the
10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 
worth
of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my
budget.
There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford 
was a
major
sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved 
downtown
last year
and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they
need the
clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of
money to put
up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be 
tapped.
Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival  july 11-12
which I plan
to
attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead 
of
joining
forces
with the movement festival.
And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement 
needs
to be
properly
communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had 
old
demf signs
up.
I know that's petty but I noticed it.
Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label 
needs to
contribute
so that a city wide effort is put forth.
The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were
politics
involved
last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so 
it
was out in
the
open not behind the scenes like last year.
Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a 
good
show.
So I send them one big Techno Thank You..
Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon
@nikkis
with negative-saucer which was a cool small set.
   
   
Tim
   
-Original Message-
From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:09 AM

Re: (313) Movement

2004-06-02 Thread Kent williams
Y'all will have to wait just a bit, but I have Tristan standing next to
Rolando looking ever so suave.  And there's a short video of Tristan
doing his 'old man walkies' dance ;-)

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
 -- Original Message --
 From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Any pics of [EMAIL PROTECTED] f***ed up and lying in a corner would be
 appreciated

 im pretty sure there are some pics of me and him kinda ripped
 around, i forget who might have taken them. now that i can talk
 and think again i can interact with 313 people again without
 acting like a fool. ill write my review in a little while, but for
 now ill just say that tristan and jason brunton might be the best
 people ive ever met through the internet.




Re: (313) Movement Report

2004-06-02 Thread Kent williams
Heh. The best part of that story is that someone had hurled up a Denver
omelette on the balcony and they were trying to wash it off.

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Phonopsia wrote:
 The cleaning lady at the Shorecrest showering Pittsburgh and Iowa with a
 trash can




RE: (313) Movement

2004-06-02 Thread Robert Taylor
I thought it was called the Fermented Mashed Potato Stomp

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To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Movement


  And there's a short video of Tristan
doing his 'old man walkies' dance ;-)

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Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread alugo
Hi Alex!

No, we didn't record it...we usually never do. If the people putting it on want 
to, that's fine with us, but we don't ususally have time to bother with it. 

Thanks JT for the props! Like I said when I met you, it's always nice to put a 
face to the ASCII. Yeah, the sound at the show was indeed very sketchy..no 
monitors to speak of, etc. but hell, we're so used to something being wacky at 
our shows that you try do your best to deal with it. Not as much fun as the 
Cleveland show as far as our own personal enjoyment, but definitely a bigger 
crowd, so that's cool.

One of our fellow 313 peeps (who shall remain nameless) almost managed to get 
himself thrown out of the UR gig for taking pics. He was able to stay after 
deleting said material from his camera. He said the venue was 
interesting...white walls and no smoking inside (there was a back patio).  
That's about all I got out of him..:)

Peace,
Alex


 
 Man, I keep hearing how good the Timeline show was...can anyone get us a
 fairly detailed report on it? Tracks, venue, crowd, etc. Also whether Mike
 had a balaclava on. Thanks.
 
 Yeah, I need to know what colour socks Buzz Goree had on as well if anyone
 has a minute.
 
 ; )
 
 I know this is a bit of an ask, but does anyone know if they recorded this
 party at all?
 h, I hope they did.
 
 or how's about the Ultradyne? Alex did you record it? or flippin 'eck, did
 anyone record anything?
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(313) Yet More Pictures

2004-06-02 Thread John Patterson
I am starting to get pictures in from my photographers and I am posting
them as I can. I am just writting my review on my site...but generally I
had my expectations exceeded. Ohhh and I have to concurLisa is the
Whip!

www.detroitmovementguide.com

http://www.detroitmovementguide.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=copperminefile=indexcat=8


RE: (313) Movement track ID please

2004-06-02 Thread 313
YES!  I listened to a sample online and that's the exact track.  Thanks so
much for your help, I appreciate it.

Now for step 2...it seems this song is not available for purchase on CD in
an unmixed version.  Does anyone know if it's available for commercial
download anywhere?

Thanks again.

Leslie

-Original Message-
From: Ian Malbon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 1:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Movement track ID please

Sounds like you're describing Pepe Braddock's Burning/Deep Burnt.  
Always a crowd pleaser, and no better place to hear it than Hart Plaza.
-- 
Ian

On May 30, 2004, at 11:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 During Garth Trinidad's shockingly great set on High Tech Soul Stage, 
 he
 dropped a song that floored the crowd.it got the biggest response that 
 I saw
 the entire day.  It was right after the disco-scorcher portion of his 
 set
 when he slowed the tempo and chilled things out quite a bit.playing 
 tracks
 that would sound completely at home on any of the labels Kruder and
 Dorfmeister are affiliated with.  2 or 3 songs into this portion, he 
 played
 a track with a majestically filtered 4 part chord progression.  The
 filtering starts out with the chord barely noticeable and by the 
 middle of
 the track the chord is exposed completely and sounds lush and rich.  I
 remember thinking to my self that it sounded like a less driving and 
 chilled
 out Groove La Chord by Aril Brikha.

 Sound familiar to anyone?  I hope so 'cuz I want it!







(313) help re. RS

2004-06-02 Thread alex . bond
Hi.

Has anyone got any idea if the Belgium label RS still exists in any form?

I need to contact them if I can.

What happens if they're not still going and I need to license a track? Just
speak to the artist?

Thanks

Alex
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Re: (313) help re. RS

2004-06-02 Thread max
They must be going in some form or I would have expected Derrick May to of
released something by now.
As I understand he is still tied into a contract which he can't resolve with
them. Think its mentioned in the technotourist review with Derrick.

Max

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Subject: (313) help re. RS


 Hi.

 Has anyone got any idea if the Belgium label RS still exists in any form?

 I need to contact them if I can.

 What happens if they're not still going and I need to license a track?
Just
 speak to the artist?

 Thanks

 Alex
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Re: (313) help re. RS

2004-06-02 Thread David Beattie
Did it not get bought over by Sony or something?

Think Derrick is still wrangelling with Renatt (sp?)
re his contract and that is what was mentioned in the
technotourist article

Alex - give RAD a call as they got a bundle of old RS
stuff a while ago and might be able to point you in a
direction 0141 221 9657

Cheers
BT
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 Thanks
 
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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread alugo
The government in the city is so f*cked up right now that even if they wanted 
to support this festival, they really would not have the money. Now there's the 
scandal with the mayor (check Metro Times for the drama). The city does not 
support the hip hop summit, the mayor does. He's on the panel every year, which 
is a bit pretentious when the panel usually includes the likes of Russell 
Simmons (picture Kwame Kilpatrick on the panel anything dealing with techno and 
you'll get how ludicrous that is). I seriously think he does the hip hop thing 
gearing up for his next career when they boot him out. 

I don't think the city is deliberately milking us, but they are deliberately 
letting something that obviously brings a lot of people to the city go down the 
tubes. Granted, they are not the only ones at fault. I for one, would argue 
that if the majority of the festival planning was completed in a timely 
fashion, tickets should be sold if that's what it takes. I don't think we would 
complaing if we all had to pay 50 bucks for the whole weekend, or something 
like that. If it give the organizers a budget to work with, it should happen. 
They just have to come correct: get the lineup set, maybe even take some 
interactive suggestions from the fans, come up with the lineup, set up 
pre-ticketing, then go to some sponsors with some real numbers. Nothing would 
impress a company more that some real numbers; not the fact that it's a free 
festival and that a lot of people come each year. And like someone said on 
detroitluv, have someone with a keener pulse on what's happening in Detroit and 
elsewhere in the world to work on the lineup. Too many trumpets and not enough 
Akai, Roland, etc. gear on the main stage this year. It was interesting to note 
that the slogan this year on the banners was Saving the world from bad music. 
If you're going to put some sh*t like that on a banner, back it up with extreme 
prejudice.

And although many people talk about it, there is an ego monster killing this 
from within right now. If these people can't work well together, they need to 
move on. 

Everyone, including us, needs to wake up and realize that the idea of a free 
festival, while noble, was unrealistic from the get. Derrick May also needs to 
realize that he needs to stop being a martyr (bringing up how the festival is 
free to anyone that will listen..we know this) and make people pay to come see 
this, but also give them something folks would be willing to drop 50-100 
dollars to experience. It's pretty sad when you have consistently better techno 
being dropped at a booth (Nefarious) that in the main bowl. 

On a positive note, I thought the crowd was a bit more balanced this year and 
all in all the weather was markedly better. Monday was a sunny day that 
reminded me of the first festival.

Peace,
Alex


 I'm not saying anything negative about the Derrick,Kevin and co..
 it's my city Detroit I'm talking about the city does not support
 the music like they do other events, just a couple weeks ago they
 had the hip hop summit, which was supported. The city sees our event
 as a chance to milk us listeners for the money, but not kick out any...
 These are the same reasons why many artist have left the city...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:48 AM
 To: Steward, Tim; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
 
 
 was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year
 -doh!- but Red Bull in Europe
 do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to help...but
 as you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands
  
 also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's thru
 and thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be honest
 I find it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and
 producing net along  trying to organise a free event for the masses so hats
 off to Derrick, Kevin and Co...
 
   -Original Message- 
   From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:38 
   To: 313@hyperreal.org 
   Cc: 
   Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
   
   
 
   Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
   But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
   rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least
   for me.
   These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for  the
   10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
   so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth
   of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my
 budget.
   There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a
 major
   sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown
 last year
 

Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Kent williams
The UR party was in the Detroit Summer Youth Space building. The party was
a benefit for the Detroit Summer Youth Space, hence no smoking in the venue --
kids are actually in there during the day, and it is probably best that
we didn't leave it smelling like a bar.

It was a decent venue (though more ventilation would have been welcome),
and the sound was good. The big room out back with no ceiling was
wicked with the moonlight streaming in -- that's where they're 'raising
the roof' quite literally for their computer lab.

Timeline live was a transcendant way to end the weekend. I hope that they
continue to pursue live performances because they can only get better.
If I was going to get picky I'd say that they were a little over-generous
with the noodly bits. But f*k's sake it's MAD MIKE DOING THE NOODLING.

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One of our fellow 313 peeps (who shall remain nameless) almost managed to
 get himself thrown out of the UR gig for taking pics. He was able to stay
 after deleting said material from his camera. He said the venue was
 interesting...white walls and no smoking inside (there was a back
 patio).  That's about all I got out of him..:)




RE: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Andrew
...sake it's MAD MIKE DOING THE NOODLING.

MORE!! MORE!! PLASE!!

How was his skills? And the other dudes, did they all fit, were they tight
as a group? What about Dex? Any particular highlights of the set?


On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One of our fellow 313 peeps (who shall remain nameless) almost managed 
 to get himself thrown out of the UR gig for taking pics. He was able 
 to stay after deleting said material from his camera. He said the 
 venue was interesting...white walls and no smoking inside (there was a 
 back patio).  That's about all I got out of him..:)






Re: (313) movement weather

2004-06-02 Thread Thorin Teague
Overseas travelers, don't be alarmed. Sunday's weather was just Michigan's 
way of openly declaring its contempt for the international community. 


Doing our part for America,
Yes! Michigan (Where if you don't like the weather, just wait 5 minutes) 

;) 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On a positive note, I thought the crowd was a bit more balanced this year and all in all the weather was markedly better. Monday was a sunny day that reminded me of the first festival. 







RE: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread J. T.
i didnt mind the noodling at all except for one song. they were tight as 
hell. they played kraftwerk's numbers, best cover i've ever heard of 
kraftwerk, it was ur-ized. and the sounds were perfect. they played amazon. 
electronic warfare, jupiter jazz, soulsaver...afrogermanic? it's all a blur 
now. it was mindblowing. they had great video projections as well. i will 
leave it to somebody with more energy and better words to give a more 
complete rundown



...sake it's MAD MIKE DOING THE NOODLING.

MORE!! MORE!! PLASE!!

How was his skills? And the other dudes, did they all fit, were they tight
as a group? What about Dex? Any particular highlights of the set?


On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One of our fellow 313 peeps (who shall remain nameless) almost managed
 to get himself thrown out of the UR gig for taking pics. He was able
 to stay after deleting said material from his camera. He said the
 venue was interesting...white walls and no smoking inside (there was a
 back patio).  That's about all I got out of him..:)






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Re: (313) Movement report (for alex :P)

2004-06-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

kevin 
saunderson was godawful, started with drexciya intro from 
drexciya 4, then 
spastik, and big fun and red 3 were in there somewhere, but 
everything else 
was trance/progressive, realyy bad...

at the time i was so bent i couldnt tell if i was making it up in 
my head, but after spastik (which i suprised myself by recognizing 
it immediately despite the fact that i could barely hear things 
right) it sounded like all trance stuff. i ran from that stage. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...sake it's MAD MIKE DOING THE NOODLING.

MORE!! MORE!! PLASE!!

How was his skills? 

mike keys skills were wildly better than i would have thought. the 
guy is ill. and he has a pretty funny moustache. he didnt look mad 
at all, maybe slightly miffed. 

And the other dudes, did they all fit, were they tight
as a group? What about Dex? Any particular highlights of the set?

rolando deejayed with them, not dex. the others were buzz goree 
and suburban knight, one on keys and one on a drum box of some 
sort. dont know what those guys look like so i dont know which was 
which, but the guy on the drums was way hot. the other guy on keys 
was damn good too. they were really really good. inspiration 
with the transition acapella over it was hot,  as was hi tech 
jazz. they dropped a few bits of classic electro (numbers, clear) 
in with some of their electro cuts (cant remember the names, 
sorry) which was very fun. definitely the best possible way to end 
the weekend. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) Movement

2004-06-02 Thread Carissa Tintinalli


Music highlights:

-Shake @ Green Light Go on Friday. He played way housier than I've ever 
heard him, and it ended up being a great set.

-Cabanne @ Green Light Go. Nice minimal dubby techno. Perfect patio music.
-Dan Bell @ GLG. A little faster than Cabanne, but still hot.
-Alter Ego live @ Ghostly's The Three Fates. Hearing 'Rocker' live made 
everyone go crazy. And thanks to the Masons for a beautiful venue, lol.

-Matthew Johnson live at Yel. Easily the best live set I saw all weekend.
-Highfish @ the Underground stage on Sunday. I can't even explain what he 
played, except by saying it was sick.
-Ryan Elliot at the Underground stage on Monday. He's easily one of the most 
talented newer djs in Detroit right now.
-Mike Servito at the Techno Boulevard stage/tent. He should have been 
playing one of the main stages.
-Magda and Troy Pierce on Monday night. Despite some serious sound problems, 
the music was still great. They played mostly unreleased material all night 
- their own plus run.stop.restore plus apparently all the white labls they'd 
received in the past few months. With all the great music there is out 
there, it's amazing to see how much more is floating around that we may 
never hear.
-Kai Alce on Monday at the Music Institute stage. It was nice hearing 
someone play all those great deep Detroit tracks and actually mix them 
seamlessly. His set was flawless.


I didn't really hear anything that I *didn't* like during the weekend. I was 
excited for Aardvarck but I expected more technically and some of his track 
selections were questionable (i.e. if you're going to play Bjork, at least 
play a good Bjork song). And Kenny Larkin opening up with a Ben Sims record? 
He played way harder than I anticipated...not sure if that has to do with 
his L.A. experience or simply wanting to shake up the crowd a bit after a 
very downtempo afternoon at that stage.


The crowd did seem more mixed this year, although I will say that the 
younger contigent seemed way younger. While some of the best music was being 
played at the Underground stage, it also seemed to attract some of the most, 
um, narcotically influenced members of the crowd, to the point where it made 
being down there unbearable.


It was also good seeing Tristan and meeting his lovely girlfriend, as was 
meeting Matt McQueen and Dan Sicko.


Overall, I think I spent less time at the festival this year than any, 
although I did still have a good time. Working at the media check-in I got 
to see a lot of the shennanigans going on backstage, and at certain points 
it got a little scary (scary as in will the festival even finish out the 
weekend). But I don't think the impact of the disorganization went unnoticed 
by May et. al., and I really hope they feel like they never want to have to 
go through a weekend like that again.


It was a little sad getting back to the hotel at 8am on Tuesday morning 
knowing the weekend was officially over.


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FWD: RE: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

fwded for scott.

-- Original Message --
From: Scott Kraemer Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:03:11 -0400

Tom, would you post this since 313 isn't posting for me right
now. Thanks.

The songs I picked up from Timeline were Amazon and the
Transition/Inspiration thing. They also did a housy thing
that sounded like an old Soul City track. The experience made
me aware that I need to become more familiar with the UR
cannon. The soul/gospel jam at the end really really cooked--
this was the greatest single moment of the weekend for me.
Mad Mike's skills would have fit right in at any gospel
church in the city.

As for the venue, I totally loved it--it was about 4 blocks
from my house. The space is owned by an affordable housing
developer (CCNDC) and they rent it to Detroit Summer (for
whom the show was a benefit to raise the roof, literally).
Detroit Summer does community projects like urban gardening,
bicycle repair, and many other cool things. The building is
also rented to Idle Kids who are an anarchist youth
collective. So, basically, the place has so much good
karma it's ridiculous.

Got to see one of the UR Z records up close and personal when
Suburban Knight dropped it at the UR party--clear blue-green
vinyl w/ giant Z on it and a small black UR logo in the
middle. Dope wax.

Kenny Larkin dropped what I'm guessing was his new material
at the end of his set on Monday--right after Shades of Jae.
Can anyone confirm this? Hopefully a recording of this event
is forthercoming. ;-)

On Saturday night at Centre Street Theo dropped some song
with a simple vocal about flowers--he brought her flowers
or something like that--which was so beautiful and completely
dope at the same time. Of course there was tons of good stuff
in his set--that one just stands out. If anyone knows the
track I'd greatly appreciate an ID.

Kai Alce was amazing. Saw him at City Club on Sunday and
again at the festival on Monday. He spun some very tasteful
vocal and instrumental house and just murdered the dance
floor.

I think Danny Krivit played strictly off CDR at the City
Club.  There were some good and some not so good remixes of
Shelter and King Street tunes in there.  One that stands out
was a remix of Big Moses, that's how much I love you.

I must have heard Groove a la Chord at least 5 times on
Monday--Kenny Larkin, Rolando, Buzz Goree, Rolando again
I'm not complaining. ;-)

Saw DJ Nobu from Japan on Friday at Centre Street and he just
rocked it. Some killer beatdown style house. Really nice guy
too.

Scott




 Original message 
Date: Wed,  2 Jun 2004 13:42:13 -0400
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report
(for alex :P))
To: 313@hyperreal.org

-- Original Message -
-
From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...sake it's MAD MIKE DOING THE NOODLING.

MORE!! MORE!! PLASE!!

How was his skills?

mike keys skills were wildly better than i would have
thought. the
guy is ill. and he has a pretty funny moustache. he didnt
look mad
at all, maybe slightly miffed.

And the other dudes, did they all fit, were they tight
as a group? What about Dex? Any particular highlights of
the set?

rolando deejayed with them, not dex. the others were buzz
goree
and suburban knight, one on keys and one on a drum box of
some
sort. dont know what those guys look like so i dont know
which was
which, but the guy on the drums was way hot. the other guy
on keys
was damn good too. they were really really
good. inspiration
with the transition acapella over it was hot,  as was hi
tech
jazz. they dropped a few bits of classic electro (numbers,
clear)
in with some of their electro cuts (cant remember the names,
sorry) which was very fun. definitely the best possible way
to end
the weekend.

tom

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Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Erin Bate
I wasn't there however I did get a call at the beginning of there set 
and Journey of the dragons was playing, I also heard Final Frontier.. 
From what I understand S2 opened the party, Suburban Knight didn't play 
and Buzz went off like 4 or 5am. The people who played in Timeline was 
Mike, Gerald, Mia, and Dex. As for the recordings, there were NO other 
recordings except for Buzz's, or pictures taken. Two People were cleared 
for photographs, and If anyone was taking pics or recording they were 
asked to leave.
Nice to hear you all enjoyed Timeline, I know they were practicing hard 
all week bust out on all you!

~Erin

rolando deejayed with them, not dex. the others were buzz goree 
and suburban knight, one on keys and one on a drum box of some 
sort. dont know what those guys look like so i dont know which was 
which, but the guy on the drums was way hot. the other guy on keys 
was damn good too. they were really really good. inspiration 
with the transition acapella over it was hot,  as was hi tech 
jazz. they dropped a few bits of classic electro (numbers, clear) 
in with some of their electro cuts (cant remember the names, 
sorry) which was very fun. definitely the best possible way to end 
the weekend. 

tom 



andythepooh.com



  
 






Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))


 -- Original Message --
 From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ...sake it's MAD MIKE DOING THE NOODLING.
 
 MORE!! MORE!! PLASE!!
 
 How was his skills?

 mike keys skills were wildly better than i would have thought. the
 guy is ill. and he has a pretty funny moustache. he didnt look mad
 at all, maybe slightly miffed.

Agree 100% with all that. He was definitely a really skilled pianist. I
think the gospelly track showcased that the most but it was evident
throughout.

 And the other dudes, did they all fit, were they tight
 as a group? What about Dex? Any particular highlights of the set?

 rolando deejayed with them, not dex.

That was Santiago Salazar DJing before them, and Dex was the guy on the two
CDJs during the live performance.

 the others were buzz goree
 and suburban knight, one on keys and one on a drum box of some
 sort.

Rolando, Buzz Goree and Suburban Knight were the other DJs billed, which is
where I think the confusion may be coming from, as their names were flashed
on the screen throughout. From what I can piece together from Keleigh
Casper's In the Flesh article in last week's Metro Times with a picture of
10 UR peepz and my dim memory of the dimly lit show, the other keyboardist
was Unknown Soldier. Not sure about the drummer.

 the guy on the drums was way hot.

Yeah. That was an octopad he was playing I believe. Think it's a Yamaha drum
pad. He played that really well!

 the other guy on keys
 was damn good too. they were really really good. inspiration
 with the transition acapella over it was hot,  as was hi tech
 jazz. they dropped a few bits of classic electro (numbers, clear)
 in with some of their electro cuts (cant remember the names,
 sorry) which was very fun. definitely the best possible way to end
 the weekend.

From what I could tell (I could be totally wrong), most of the tracks were
coming out of the CD players, with added bits coming from the keyboardists
and the octopad. I imagine these were semi-stripped down versions of the
tracks to allow the keyboardists a bit more room to play. But this is how
'Numbers' was brought in if nothing else. Dex kinda faded it across while
the live bits continued atop it, then he faded back to get back into the
other track, 'Return of the Dragons' IIRC.

There were a few really amazing moments in this show, but I was in a
horrible allergies-gone-wild + too much smoking phlegm evacuation state to
really enjoy it with the thickness of the air in there. I had to step
outside a few times to avoid fainting. The overall sound was about what I
expected. The noodliness got a bit much for me in parts, but the
stripped-down bits really hit the nail on the head for me. Ilana Weaver AKA
Invincible did a cool rap to an Interstellar Fugitives track (someone told
me that's what it was anyway). I'm gonna be totally in the minority when I
say it didn't blow me away, but I'm glad I saw it because there were some
really memorable bits there. The one thing I think is sort of strange is
that in that Metro Times interview, Mad Mike says he didn't want to show off
their music at the festival because it goes over better in small spaces, but
I think that's precisely where I'd like to hear something that was so much
of a 'jam', if that makes any sense. At any rate, I'm sure the more adorring
fans can fill in more of the blanks. I'm only really into a couple handfuls
of UR tracks *that* much, so I enjoyed it about as much as I thought I
would! Those who love UR would definitely love this show.

$.02.

Tristan
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(313) Kraftwerk Coachella 2004

2004-06-02 Thread 313
This just in from the IDM list:

Kraftwerk's entire show from Coachella in 192Kbps MP3.


http://www.hushreality.com/kraftwerk/

Listening to it now.yummy!  When are they going to come back to Detroit?
What a great show.






Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Scotto
was mad mike in hiding? when i walked up tp the stage there was only three
people, two who i reconized from sid when i have been shopping down there. a
friend i was with said he did not see MM on stage (he knows him), i kept
saying that the band was a front and MM was backstage playing everything.

but the show was sweet reguardless of who was playing.

i think they should have had it in the very back room. i dubbed it the
detroit room it had no roof, just the steel gerders.

the food was very good and what a way to start off a party

i liked the open door policy

scotto
plaztikjezuz.com
lansing, mi  --- hamtramck bound.

ps. will give a full detailed weekend report as soon as i get my pictures
back.

- Original Message - 
From: Erin Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))


 I wasn't there however I did get a call at the beginning of there set
 and Journey of the dragons was playing, I also heard Final Frontier..
  From what I understand S2 opened the party, Suburban Knight didn't play
 and Buzz went off like 4 or 5am. The people who played in Timeline was
 Mike, Gerald, Mia, and Dex. As for the recordings, there were NO other
 recordings except for Buzz's, or pictures taken. Two People were cleared
 for photographs, and If anyone was taking pics or recording they were
 asked to leave.
 Nice to hear you all enjoyed Timeline, I know they were practicing hard
 all week bust out on all you!
 ~Erin

 rolando deejayed with them, not dex. the others were buzz goree
 and suburban knight, one on keys and one on a drum box of some
 sort. dont know what those guys look like so i dont know which was
 which, but the guy on the drums was way hot. the other guy on keys
 was damn good too. they were really really good. inspiration
 with the transition acapella over it was hot,  as was hi tech
 jazz. they dropped a few bits of classic electro (numbers, clear)
 in with some of their electro cuts (cant remember the names,
 sorry) which was very fun. definitely the best possible way to end
 the weekend.
 
 tom
 
 
 andythepooh.com
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Erin Bate



Scotto wrote:


was mad mike in hiding? when i walked up tp the stage there was only three
people, two who i reconized from sid when i have been shopping down there. a
friend i was with said he did not see MM on stage (he knows him), i kept
saying that the band was a front and MM was backstage playing everything.

Nope, Mike was on stage!! playing keyboards as well.  
~E




RE: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread House of Suki
Yup.
  The cat rockin on the jupiter and SH101 :) 

-Original Message-
From: Erin Bate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 5:06 PM
To: Scotto
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))



Scotto wrote:

was mad mike in hiding? when i walked up tp the stage there was only 
three people, two who i reconized from sid when i have been shopping 
down there. a friend i was with said he did not see MM on stage (he 
knows him), i kept saying that the band was a front and MM was backstage
playing everything.

Nope, Mike was on stage!! playing keyboards as well.  
~E





RE: (313) movement CD

2004-06-02 Thread Steward, Tim
Did anyone pick up the movement CD ? if so
how is it?




Tim



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Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))

2004-06-02 Thread Greg Earle

On Jun 2, 2004, at 11:35 AM, Erin Bate wrote:

I wasn't there however I did get a call at the beginning of their set
and Journey of the Dragons was playing, I also heard Final Frontier..


Final Frontier[EMAIL PROTECTED]  FINAL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@!!?

UUGGGHHH!

OK, that does it, I think I'm off to commit ritualistic hara-kiri  :-(

Been nice knowing you all.

- (A very, very depressed) Greg