Re: (313) Regis

2004-09-23 Thread eric trout


On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, David Powers wrote:

 Are any Chicago people going to check out REGIS on Saturday, 


i'd like to, but i think some friends are having a going away party. and
also i might drive to cleveland to see lungfish. or i suppose i could see
yo la tengo in cleveland. arg, choices!

eric



(313) [REMINDER] phoniq presents AKUMU 09/25/2004

2004-09-23 Thread Neil Wiernik


saturday september 25 2004

phoniq brings you an evening of deep listening

featuring from toronto

akumu - live - www.spiderrecords.com

and the local stylings of

naw - live - www.noisefactoryrecords.com
scant intone vs. various - live - www.panospria.com / www.phoniq.net
cyan - dj - www.traktion.com

where:
la salle d'attente (esperanza)
5490 st-laurent, montreal, canada
time:
9pm SHARP first live artist is on at 1030pm.
how much:
$5

for more info visit: www.phoniq.net



PRESS RELEASE

the PHONIQ collective brings you the third in our ongoing series of live
electronic music events. each of these events are designed to act as an
exploration into the different intersections between  technology and
music/art making. this time around phoniq will feature an assembly of
artists all working to create an immersive deep listening experience. the
evening will feature: the first ever appearance of toronto's very own
AKUMU, whose recently released 'fluxes' cd on the akumu imprint spider
records, shows us a deeper, lush, dark ambient side to this artist as
opposed to his self titled debut from 2000, which exhibited his more dub
ambient side. for this montreal performance akumu will play a cross
section of his slow-beat dub found on his earlier release and the pure
deep ambience of his most recent 'fluxes' release.
akumu's performance will also feature some of the artists own video work
projected during his performance.

rounding out this evening of deep listening will be phoniq co-founder and
noise factory recording artist NAW, who will be presenting a very rare
live presentation of his microsound/idm experimental musings. panospria
label head and phoniq collective members SCANT INTONE and VARIOUS will be
performing a tag team live pa of glitchy/experimental shapeshifting music.
opening and closing the evenings activities will be modular systems host
and phoniq co-founder CYAN djing the less dance floor oriented
idm/quirky electro and other found rareties that find their way into
her vast music collection.

BIOS/INFO

PHONIQ
www.phoniq.net
phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge
electronic music/art in interesting variable environments, with  an
emphasis on exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed
to the electronic arts communities of montreal and canada. we aim to
showcase upstart music producers, djs, and emerging visual artists all
working in electronic realms. our foremost goal is to showcase off the
wall and raw genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those
that are currently en vogue or will be shortly.

the concept for phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2
active members of the montreal/canadian electronic music and digital arts
community: ckut-fm dj/host cyan and dub glitch techno producer naw. phoniq
has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. naw brings
the clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in toronto, which hosted such
artists as: monolake, kit clayton and sutekh. cyan brings her ongoing
involvement in community radio, event coordinating and
dj talents.

since then the collective has grown to include 5 core members
responsible for keeping things running. after a short 6 months phoniq has
grown from an idea of how can we create a viable promotional vehicle  for
canadian electronic artists, into a music series, an active community mailing
list/community forum, and in the coming months phoniq will relaunch its site
designed to act as a portal resource for the canadian electronic music
community which will include a net-label.

AKUMU
www.spiderrecords.com
somewhere between the spacey soundscapes of dark ambient lounge
music and the scratchy breakbeats of downtempo drum n' bass lies the
wonderful world of akumu. the brainchild of deane hughes, founder of the
independent spider records label, who has previously recorded under the
names thrive and alchemy, akumu ranges from languid liquid synths that
feel like a drowsy summer afternoon, to hypnotic ringing and cascading
full-speed-ahead bass-plus-beats, to spooky synths and muffled electronic
planet-blips. akumu means bad dream in Japanese, and a lot of his
music has a dreamlike quality to it.

dark ambiences, shadowy beats, haunting microscapes, from electronic
artist and film composer deane hughes, akumu is an exploration of
atmospheres, moods and rhythms. deane is celebrating the release of his
latest akumu cd, entitled fluxes. this minimalist cd was written  and
created in guatemala, honduras  mexico over  a 6-month time span using
binaural field recordings to construct drone-based and loop-based
instruments. deane will be performing and improvising on material from
fluxes and other material with visuals projected from some of his abstract
video-work  at this first ever montreal performance for this artist.

NAW
www.noisefactoryrecords.com
montreal native neil wiernik began his explorations 

(313) iTunes shuffle rescued me: Carl Talor mix

2004-09-23 Thread Matt MacQueen
phew, finally gave some love to a Carl tayor mix i downloaded from god 
knows where/when (was it a post on 313 or maybe from Little Detroit?), 
a rout of later-era planet e artists from Moodyann to Theo's remix of 
Recloose, Common Factor and At Les among other gems..  and more tracks 
that were very familiar sounding but couldn't put my finger on.   Mr. 
Taylor if you're reading this... ace selections, thank you.   Anyone 
familiar with this mix can post a URL so others on 313 can download?  A 
great way to get lost in fantastic detroit music for an hour... whammo.


ps = yes i'll have another glass of the sauvignon blanc, thannnk 
yo.,..   ,   ...  ,


--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com



Re: (313) iTunes shuffle rescued me: Carl Talor mix

2004-09-23 Thread lisa

oh yes, that's a nice mix - but then, all Carl Taylor mixes are nice  :)

I think it was somewhere on Little Detroit, or at least linked on there. 
perhaps check the mixes section of the site, or ...


erm ... hey Martin, where's that mix?

lisa


Matt MacQueen wrote:
phew, finally gave some love to a Carl tayor mix i downloaded from god 
knows where/when (was it a post on 313 or maybe from Little Detroit?), a 
rout of later-era planet e artists from Moodyann to Theo's remix of 
Recloose, Common Factor and At Les among other gems..  and more tracks 
that were very familiar sounding but couldn't put my finger on.   Mr. 
Taylor if you're reading this... ace selections, thank you.   Anyone 
familiar with this mix can post a URL so others on 313 can download?  A 
great way to get lost in fantastic detroit music for an hour... whammo.


ps = yes i'll have another glass of the sauvignon blanc, thannnk 
yo.,..   ,   ...  ,


--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com




Re: (313) iTunes shuffle rescued me: Carl Talor mix

2004-09-23 Thread David Gillies

http://www.carltaylor.org/mixes.php

lisa wrote:

oh yes, that's a nice mix - but then, all Carl Taylor mixes are nice  :)

I think it was somewhere on Little Detroit, or at least linked on there. 
perhaps check the mixes section of the site, or ...


erm ... hey Martin, where's that mix?

lisa


Matt MacQueen wrote:

phew, finally gave some love to a Carl tayor mix i downloaded from god 
knows where/when (was it a post on 313 or maybe from Little Detroit?), 
a rout of later-era planet e artists from Moodyann to Theo's remix of 
Recloose, Common Factor and At Les among other gems..  and more tracks 
that were very familiar sounding but couldn't put my finger on.   Mr. 
Taylor if you're reading this... ace selections, thank you.   Anyone 
familiar with this mix can post a URL so others on 313 can download?  
A great way to get lost in fantastic detroit music for an hour... whammo.


ps = yes i'll have another glass of the sauvignon blanc, thannnk 
yo.,..   ,   ...  ,


--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com






Re: (313) iTunes shuffle rescued me: Carl Talor mix

2004-09-23 Thread /0
heheheh

alcohol to the rescue, :)

I threatened the people upstairs tonight because they didnt like my
wednesday tracking at midnight

molsen 40s, baby

d,
-Joe

- Original Message - 
From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:53 PM
Subject: (313) iTunes shuffle rescued me: Carl Talor mix


 phew, finally gave some love to a Carl tayor mix i downloaded from god
 knows where/when (was it a post on 313 or maybe from Little Detroit?),
 a rout of later-era planet e artists from Moodyann to Theo's remix of
 Recloose, Common Factor and At Les among other gems..  and more tracks
 that were very familiar sounding but couldn't put my finger on.   Mr.
 Taylor if you're reading this... ace selections, thank you.   Anyone
 familiar with this mix can post a URL so others on 313 can download?  A
 great way to get lost in fantastic detroit music for an hour... whammo.

 ps = yes i'll have another glass of the sauvignon blanc, thannnk
 yo.,..   ,   ...  ,

 --
 Matt MacQueen
 http://SonicSunset.com




(313) Playlist WNUR Chicago - 17 Sept 2004 - It's House. (or is it?)

2004-09-23 Thread Matt MacQueen

Clinically Inclined
17 September 2004
Fridays 11:00pm - 1:30am,  89.3 FM WNUR Chicago
http://SonicSunset.com   --- download this show


part 1  Offbeat dusted b-side dubs..  Stockholm's 12th Floor into  
Recloose's techno funk provides backbeat to proto hip-hop from Whodini.  
Handclap to Jellybean's epic kicks the 808 cowbells.  The rest is Jack  
To Basics with raw Chicago pre-techno jackin' trax, a re-work of First  
Choice tore up chicago style, Chip E defines House, and local phenom  
Hieroglyphic Being as 'Africans with Mainframes'. Don't miss WBMX  
favorite synth-heavy italo destroyer by Pineapples!  If you haven't  
heard us in awhile, this is one to check.  :}


part 2  sub-aquatic organic-electronic dub from germany, canada, and  
japan rides out the last days of summer, and we go a bit more uptempo  
with peak:shift and a sampling from jeff mills' recent 7 series.  new  
music from yunx anchors the downtempo wind-down.



part 1  Matt MacQueen

Roy Ayers Ubiquity - The Black Five - Mystic Voyage (Polydor) 1975
Charles Leonard - Drop It In The Pocket (Windy City) 1982
The Earons - Land of Hunger [Dub version] (Island) 1984
12th Floor - Don't This Blow Your Mind (Raw Fusion)
Recloose - Up  Up - Cardiology (Planet e)
Whodini - 5 Minutes of Funk (Jive) 1894
Jellybean - The Mexican [Funhouse Mix] (EMI) 1984
The Quick - Zulu [Instr.] (Pavillion) 1981
Electric Mind - ZWEI [Dub version] (Emergency) 1983
Joe Smooth - I'll Be There [Instr.] (DJ International) 1988
House People - Godfather of House [Club Mix] (Underground) 1986
House Gang - Let No Man Put Us Under - Hitrax (Underground) 1988
Faces Drums (Original Records) 1988
Adonis - We're Rocking Down The House [Instr.] (Trax) 1986
Pineapples - Come On Closer (Original Records) 1988
Chip E - It's House (Jack Trax)  1986
Africans with Mainframes - Micro-Electronique - Save The Robots EP  
(Mathematics)



part 2   dave siska

neal howard - to be or not to be [the gathering club mix] - best of  
future sound records (rephlex)

aroy dee - the planets (nwaq)
electric birds - a2 - strata (inc.us)
maus  stolle - for your ears only (klang)
deadbeat - requiem - something borrowed, something blue (~scape)
w-moon - unless - entry plug ep (metrojuice)
taksi - dezent (taksi)
peak:shift - now come on into the world (nurture)
heiko laux - liquidism (kanzleramt)
jeff mills - absolutespecial (axis 7)
kit clayton - packet loss - unreliable networks (cytrax)
plaid - cold - peel sessions (warp)
di_indicator - reflection on visual awareness - libra ep (ungleich)
yunx - easyway - snake in the grass (ai)
smyglyssna - on partiklar och lyktstolpar - plug research 
development (plug research)
maps  diagrams - flanel - glaciarc ep (tundra music)


Download shows as MP3 from http://SonicSunset.com
 
-




RE: (313) re: Manchester UK Spam Recloose/Domu

2004-09-23 Thread Ken Odeluga
seen any other records from Planet E in the last 2 years other than work by
Carl himself?

Niko Marks Chune?

k


RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Ken Odeluga


As far as London goes, I'm no expert, but I think The
New Dance Sound... is maybe a bit overrated in it's
influence on anyone but Brits (or maybe even just
Londoners?). It's a good story, but I've never talked
to anyone who got into detroit sounds because of it.
(Though it probably did provide a bit of a cash
infusion into some detroit studios.)

I did, other people I know did too. I don't think that comp can be dismissed
so lightly.

k



(313) Mills vs. Garnier in Belgium last week

2004-09-23 Thread Greg Earle
http://www.technopride.net/download_center_lite/index.php?setsdomes/ 
Laurent_Garnier_and_Jeff_Mills-Live_at_Switch_StudioBrussel-17-09 
-2004_hosted_by_www.technopride.net.mp3


- Greg



Re: (313) Mills vs. Garnier in Belgium last week

2004-09-23 Thread Greg Earle

D'oh!@  That'll teach me to not test a direct link first.  Methinks
the server keeps Cookies - the link is correct, but you have to
click on it from this page instead of trying it directly:

http://www.technopride.net/setsdomes-2004setembro.htm

Given that there's 3 Dave Clarke sets on that page in addition to
an Alter Ego, Speedy J live, Damon Wild, Regis vs. James Ruskin,
Thomas P. Heckmann and Umek on that page, I guess I should've
posted that page to begin with  ;-)

- Greg



Re: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Pascoe Mr S M

Ken Odeluga wrote:


As far as London goes, I'm no expert, but I think The
New Dance Sound... is maybe a bit overrated in it's
influence on anyone but Brits (or maybe even just
Londoners?). 
   



I did, other people I know did too. I don't think that comp can be dismissed
so lightly.

k


 



raises hand me too, that was my first exposure to Detroit. I didn't 
like every track on the comp when it came out, but it opened my ears to 
the sound.


sImon


--
___
  sImon Pascoe
 BSD
  BIX
___



Re: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Martin Dust




raises hand me too, that was my first exposure to Detroit. I didn't 
like every track on the comp when it came out, but it opened my ears 
to the sound.





I got my copy out last weekend, have you heard the mix side lately? The 
amount of spin backs - made me smile...Still very fond of it tho...


Cheers
Martin



Re: (313) Man Alive?

2004-09-23 Thread Martin Dust




i've appreciated all sides of the debate, but i concur.  After 
Detroit, it's Berlin.  If we are talking kindred TECHNO spirits, who 
helped get detroit european exposure, collaborations, the whole 
Hardwax/Basic Channel connection, remember that tresor compilation:  
Berlin-Detroit:  A Techno Alliance  ;)


yeah you could argue Neil Rushton was doing similar with licensing 
stuff for Network UK / Kool Kat though...  Biorhythms... etc. etc. and 
that might have been before UR got in so thick with Mark and Moritz at 
Basic Channel/Hardwax.


Sound of Detroit///
True, but it never really worked though, well not in the numbers sense 
that the label wanted, I also feel that the Face article did a lot of 
damage - turning techno into something like a cheap consumer product 
for the style whores - this view changes depending on my mood tho :)




Also i found the Chicago arguments interesting, the cross-pollination 
was definitely there.  For 2nd wave detroit/chicago crossover, DBX 
personified it, btw.  Sold big numbers here.  So did the early 
Metroplex records too.   It's also funny, classically, DJs here play 
Salsa Life here more than they play Strings of Life.   Same record 
sales numbers, but different cut for the different city.  That was one 
of the first things i notices when i started going out after moving 
here 10 years ago.  Salsa Life!  It's grown on me immensely though, 
prior to moving here i never gave it a second thought.  But it tears 
up a house room big time.  Used to hear this at Red Dog, upstairs 
smaller room, hot summer night sweatbox... wooo.




I only ever remember big mash-ups in the early days, remember hearing 
Strings at the Hac but I remember hearing a lot more Chicago stuff 
there than Detroit joints. Voodoo Ray was a magic moment tho...


Martin



RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Ken Odeluga
Yeah I only found it on vinyl in the summer so I was bemused at the quite
whack 'mega mix' style wrap-up on the final side! Spin-back city!

Plus the pressing is pretty weak in volume. There is (I think?) though, a
longer version of 'Share This House' and some tracks make more sense it
seems to me via vinyl. All in all, it was a good introduction at the time,
and some of the Derrick May-produced tracks are still of interest - e.g. 'Un
Deux Trois.' Plus of course there's 'Spark': Beautiful and not available
anywhere else.

k



I got my copy out last weekend, have you heard the mix side lately? The
amount of spin backs - made me smile...Still very fond of it tho...

Cheers
Martin






RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Peteri, Jochem
mr baxter delivered the goods on there, never saw those tracks anywhere else 
either..

and yeah, Mia Hesterley is magic, there´s a track that deserves a 12 release..

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:31
To: Martin Dust; Pascoe Mr S M
Cc: Mann, Ravinder; 313@Hyperreal.Org; dave cronin
Subject: RE: (313) If


Yeah I only found it on vinyl in the summer so I was bemused at the quite
whack 'mega mix' style wrap-up on the final side! Spin-back city!

Plus the pressing is pretty weak in volume. There is (I think?) though, a
longer version of 'Share This House' and some tracks make more sense it
seems to me via vinyl. All in all, it was a good introduction at the time,
and some of the Derrick May-produced tracks are still of interest - e.g. 'Un
Deux Trois.' Plus of course there's 'Spark': Beautiful and not available
anywhere else.

k



I got my copy out last weekend, have you heard the mix side lately? The
amount of spin backs - made me smile...Still very fond of it tho...

Cheers
Martin





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RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread placid
Forever and a day was released on this 12...

http://www.discogs.com/release/99509

p

-Original Message-
From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 September 2004 10:33
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) If

mr baxter delivered the goods on there, never saw those tracks anywhere
else either..

and yeah, Mia Hesterley is magic, there´s a track that deserves a 12
release..

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:31
To: Martin Dust; Pascoe Mr S M
Cc: Mann, Ravinder; 313@Hyperreal.Org; dave cronin
Subject: RE: (313) If


Yeah I only found it on vinyl in the summer so I was bemused at the
quite
whack 'mega mix' style wrap-up on the final side! Spin-back city!

Plus the pressing is pretty weak in volume. There is (I think?) though,
a
longer version of 'Share This House' and some tracks make more sense it
seems to me via vinyl. All in all, it was a good introduction at the
time,
and some of the Derrick May-produced tracks are still of interest - e.g.
'Un
Deux Trois.' Plus of course there's 'Spark': Beautiful and not available
anywhere else.

k



I got my copy out last weekend, have you heard the mix side lately? The
amount of spin backs - made me smile...Still very fond of it tho...

Cheers
Martin





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RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Peteri, Jochem
now there´s another piece of vinyl ill probably never findgrrr

-Original Message-
From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:36
To: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) If


Forever and a day was released on this 12...

http://www.discogs.com/release/99509

p

-Original Message-
From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 September 2004 10:33
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) If

mr baxter delivered the goods on there, never saw those tracks anywhere
else either..

and yeah, Mia Hesterley is magic, there´s a track that deserves a 12
release..

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:31
To: Martin Dust; Pascoe Mr S M
Cc: Mann, Ravinder; 313@Hyperreal.Org; dave cronin
Subject: RE: (313) If


Yeah I only found it on vinyl in the summer so I was bemused at the
quite
whack 'mega mix' style wrap-up on the final side! Spin-back city!

Plus the pressing is pretty weak in volume. There is (I think?) though,
a
longer version of 'Share This House' and some tracks make more sense it
seems to me via vinyl. All in all, it was a good introduction at the
time,
and some of the Derrick May-produced tracks are still of interest - e.g.
'Un
Deux Trois.' Plus of course there's 'Spark': Beautiful and not available
anywhere else.

k



I got my copy out last weekend, have you heard the mix side lately? The
amount of spin backs - made me smile...Still very fond of it tho...

Cheers
Martin





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(313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread alex . bond
I have it on good authority that the first record of this nature to land in
Manchester was Chip E Like This.
That was late '86. 4 copies apparently.

The first 'house' record to blow the whole thing up in Manchester was
Adonis No Way Back.
 Apparently that's the one that kicked everything off. There were 6 copies
in Manchester at first and it took nearly 4 weeks to get some more, after
that they did around 300 copies out of one shop (on the black label press
fact fans)!
This was in '87.

Apparently at this time they were still pretty much playing loads of
different stuff down there, the house music was interspersed with alot of
other stuff. Hip Hop etc. Mike Pickering started his 'new'night (didn't ask
if that was hot or nude or whatever) in '87 at some point.

Also the kids wanting the house music early on were the Black kids
apparently. In search of a different sound more than anything I'm told, to
play with the other stuff big on that scene at the time. Think this came
from them all dancing down the Gallery and Legends... Predominantly Black
music clubs I'm told.

I presume Greg Wilson was the dj at these joints. But don't know

Also it's worth noting that alot of the original Chi stuff never really got
here. Persona stuff etc in particular. Don't know if anywhere in
London/Brum/Sheffield/Glasgow or anywhere like that was getting them.

Back to my hideyhole.

Alex
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RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey what's wrong with spinbacks?  If that was what made the mix whack then
I'm a whack DJ.

Come to think of it...



RE: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread Mann, Ravinder
Up Periscope.

Records I recall being played in Leeds at that time ..

Corina - T Coy
Too Far Gone - Adonis
The Dance - DM
Like This - Chip E
We Rocking Down the House - 
House Nation - House Master
Voodoo Ray - AGCG
Pacific State - 808
Lets get Brutal - 
Ma Foom Bay - Cultural Vibe
Take Some Time Out - Classic Classic Arnold Jarvis Track. 
Cant Get Enough - Lizz Torres
Rock to the Beat - Master Reese ?
and of Course B I G  F U N !!

This is before the 'Summer Of Love'.

Then came acid and piano house and the media and the inner city kids moved
on to the hip   hop and RnB scenes. I feel its remained pretty much the same
since. It's a shameas these scenes could and should imo co exist in
Clubland.

Hate to bring up the race thing as it's a can of worms but as white people
got into house the black crowd moved out. This is simply an observation, but
that's way it was.

Rav

Down Periscope

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 September 2004 13:03
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart


I have it on good authority that the first record of this nature to land in
Manchester was Chip E Like This. That was late '86. 4 copies apparently.

The first 'house' record to blow the whole thing up in Manchester was Adonis
No Way Back.  Apparently that's the one that kicked everything off. There
were 6 copies in Manchester at first and it took nearly 4 weeks to get some
more, after that they did around 300 copies out of one shop (on the black
label press fact fans)! This was in '87.

Apparently at this time they were still pretty much playing loads of
different stuff down there, the house music was interspersed with alot of
other stuff. Hip Hop etc. Mike Pickering started his 'new'night (didn't ask
if that was hot or nude or whatever) in '87 at some point.

Also the kids wanting the house music early on were the Black kids
apparently. In search of a different sound more than anything I'm told, to
play with the other stuff big on that scene at the time. Think this came
from them all dancing down the Gallery and Legends... Predominantly Black
music clubs I'm told.

I presume Greg Wilson was the dj at these joints. But don't know

Also it's worth noting that alot of the original Chi stuff never really got
here. Persona stuff etc in particular. Don't know if anywhere in
London/Brum/Sheffield/Glasgow or anywhere like that was getting them.

Back to my hideyhole.

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RE: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread Ken Odeluga

Up Periscope.

Records I recall being played in Leeds at that time ..

Corina - T Coy
Too Far Gone - Adonis
The Dance - DM
Like This - Chip E
We Rocking Down the House -
House Nation - House Master
Voodoo Ray - AGCG
Pacific State - 808
Lets get Brutal -
Ma Foom Bay - Cultural Vibe
Take Some Time Out - Classic Classic Arnold Jarvis Track.
Cant Get Enough - Lizz Torres
Rock to the Beat - Master Reese ?
and of Course B I G  F U N !!

This is before the 'Summer Of Love'.

Then came acid and piano house and the media and the inner city kids moved
on to the hip   hop and RnB scenes. I feel its remained pretty
much the same
since. It's a shameas these scenes could and should imo co exist in
Clubland.

Hate to bring up the race thing as it's a can of worms but as white people
got into house the black crowd moved out. This is simply an
observation, but
that's way it was.

Rav

Down Periscope

It certainly looks that way. Of course, it's not 100% that way however,
evidently.

On the whole however, what you've observed is the age old problem of
prejuidice, percieved or actual - this can play itself out in ways which are
obvious enough.

Sometimes it really is there, sometimes it isn't. Not everyone's as
enlightened as they ought to be, not everyone can tell the difference. And
that works both ways too! Also, most people are conservative in deed if not
in mind, they stick with what they know and surface appearances are
everything, as is going along with the crowd.

The ironic thing is, of course, the African-American roots of a lot of this
music, including so-called hard techno! So you have a situation in which
people of colour in the UK and Europe are rejecting a music in which people
of colour in the US, played a large part (and still do). And this applied
even when the music was relatively new and therefore still more easily
traceable to those roots.

k



RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread alex . bond
I like that mix on that record, I think it's hot.

who did it?

D.May tape edits?
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RE: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread alex . bond
as these scenes could and should imo co exist in Clubland.

Totally agreed.

and there won't be any 'good' clubs again really till they do.

p.s. my email is going all funny, I presume my post got through, I've taken
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RE: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread David Beattie
Of course your email got through Alex, its a well
trodden path from your work to the 313 list, the email
isnt going to get lost is it ;-))

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(313) tragedies(clean version...)

2004-09-23 Thread Peteri, Jochem

LOS ANGELES - Russ Meyer, a master of s*xploitation filmmaking who was called 
king of the n*dies 
or King Leer for such soft-*ore p*rnography classics as Faster P*ssycat, 
Kill! Kill! and Vixen,
has died. He was 82..

And Andre Hazes has died too this morning, at 9.30...

tragic moments in the US and in Holland, let us share the grief and give our 
heroes a moment of silence..



154, in state of shock

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(313) Links

2004-09-23 Thread Martin Dust

New section just gone live on LD
http://www.littledetroit.net/Links/index.php

Submit away here:
http://www.littledetroit.net/Links/index.php?thisShow=Sub

Cheers
Martin



(313) Free Show in London [9-26-04]

2004-09-23 Thread Jared Wilson
ahoy there
check this out:
SEPTEMBER HUMP
+ LEKTROLAB FREE LIVE SHOW
on SUNDAY 26th SEPTEMBER
LIVE: bodenstandig 2000 [Rephlex, Feed the Machine - DE] maxi german
atari
rave blast!
GUEST DJ: bitch ass darius [Databass / NES Records - USA] ghetto tech

booty bass
GUEST DJ: tetine [Slum Dunk Radio, Resonance FM - BRA/UK] funk carioca
/
baille funk
RESIDENT: lektrogirl [Rephlex, micromusic]
AND: BEIGE PRESENTS VIDEO FROM ROTFLOL AND PAPER RAD - london premiere
of
the legendary NO FEAR dance-off!

at: The Spitz, Old Spitalfields Market, 109 Commercial Street, E1
nearest tube: Liverpool Street Station
time: 4pm til 10.30pm
admission: FREE

nb: guest acts start at 7.30pm so early arrival essential
http://www.lektrolab.com 

if you want to know more read on!

xx emma / lektrogirl

BODENSTANDIG 2000 [Rephlex / Feed the Machine DE]
German computer folk heros Bodenstandig 2000 step up. The Aphex Twin
can be
quoted as saying that they were the best live electronic act he had
seen
when they performed in London last in 2001 - and since then they have 

toured
all over the world with their live Atari rave blast hits - dowsing the 

crowd
at Recyclart in Brussels couldn't keep the crowd from rushing the stage
and
the folks at Camp Gay in Chicago thought the floor was going to cave in
 
with
300 people jumping up and down - so who knows what to expect when they
hit
the stage in London!
www.bodenstandig.com/2000 

ROTFLOL [Autmn Records USA]
ROTFLOL is Pittsburgh based Jacob Ciocci, part of the Paperrad Crew
(along
with Jessica Ciocci and Ben Jones). When Jacob isn't creating zines or 

flash
animations for John Peels' favourite band Lightening Bolt or busy at
CMU,  
he
is making music that's as colourful as the clothes he wears. Tonight  
members
 from the BEIGE crew present Jacob's, lo-fi, melodic, junked out,
video
gamey, crazy dancetime electro video tracks. Positive, fun, and
uplifting
casio freakouts. This music is like all of this 'neo-electro/synth
pop'
stuff, except better and without the cold, robotic, black turtleneck
attitude. Jacob was to perform live for us tonight but unfortunately
he
couldn't make it. The video show is an experience in itself and was
first
performed in the UK by the BEIGE crew at the Liverpool Bienial last
week to
an audience that was totally blown away.

BITCH ASS DARIUS [NES Records, Databass]
Hailing from the current hip-hop hot spot of St. Louis [Nelly, Chingy,
J-Kwon, etc...], Bitch Ass Darius is the most recent signing to DJ
Godfather's DataBass label. Darius, affectionately known to friends as
Bitch Ass, made his name with releases on the now-defunct N.E.S
[Nigga
Entertainment Systems] label that popularised the ghetto bass sound
throughout the St. Louis metropolitan area. DJ Assault, in town to
check
Darius' club night, took a few of his of 12's back to Detroit and they
regularly found their way into sets and mix CD's by Assault and DJ
Godfather. The rest is history, as Bitch Ass Darius' first DataBass EP
showcases the best of his extremely hard to find N.E.S. back catalogue
and
more DataBass releases are on the way.
Interesting to note - Bitch Ass Darius is so tight with Detroit legend
Ron
Murphy that Bitch Ass was to donate his kidney. [Ron Murphy is the of
NSC
who cut every single Jeff Mills, DJ Godfather / DJ Assault and
Underground
Resistance [to name but a few] record.]

TETINE [Slum Dunk Radio, Resonance FM]
Tetine means nipple and they are definitely our favourite Brazilians
DJs
who play dirty electro-disco-punk-booty-bass tunes from Rio de Janeiro
extensively played in the Bailes. You can call it funk carioca or Rio
funk.
Tetine are releasing the first ever European compilation on Mr Bongo  
Records
later this year featuring Brazilian hip hop beats with the filthiest
raps.
www.tetine.net 

  LEKTROGIRL [micromusic, Rephlex, Lektrolab]
Lektrolab resident Lektrogirl cleaning off her dusty fingers from
Europes
grottiest second hand vinyl shop to play obscure italo-electro gems,  
electro
pop and homemade chipstyle tunes in an erratic and schizophrenic mix.




RE: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread Mann, Ravinder
No I wouldn't say its 100%. I mean I still like techno : ) But as a music
that is African in its roots theres not many African decendants listening to
it. Go to a techno night and look around. It's clear to see.

As an example, my group of friends at the time 87 was made up of some White,
Afro-Carribean, Mixed Race/Heritage, Indian, a Brazilian, a typical inner
city bunch from Chapeltown Leeds. We used party to Rare Groove, Funk,
Reggae, Hip Hop. There many other such possees from other part of Leeds eg
Woodhouse.

Then came this early house out of Chicago playing in a couple of mid week
clubs, we didn't even know how to dance to it !!. What is Jackin'

The Warehouse, a club with then a wide music policy started to incoorparate
these new sounds and it simply blew up.

But these inner city possees moved away from the very scene they developed.

But why ??? Here's my take..

Well it became cheese, overcommercial, uncool, piano house and divas, songs
like 'Id rather Jack than Fleetwood Mac'. 

Yea there there was still good house and techno to be found but people just
dissassociated with it and quickly moved on, comments like 'that's what
white people dance to' 'drug music'.

I cant help thinking if some of the original artists had photos of
themselves on album sleeves how much different things might have been. (See
Hip Hop)

Must get back to work...

Rav 

-Original Message-
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Sent: 23 September 2004 14:05
To: Mann, Ravinder; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart



Up Periscope.

Records I recall being played in Leeds at that time ..

Corina - T Coy
Too Far Gone - Adonis
The Dance - DM
Like This - Chip E
We Rocking Down the House -
House Nation - House Master
Voodoo Ray - AGCG
Pacific State - 808
Lets get Brutal -
Ma Foom Bay - Cultural Vibe
Take Some Time Out - Classic Classic Arnold Jarvis Track.
Cant Get Enough - Lizz Torres
Rock to the Beat - Master Reese ?
and of Course B I G  F U N !!

This is before the 'Summer Of Love'.

Then came acid and piano house and the media and the inner city kids moved
on to the hip   hop and RnB scenes. I feel its remained pretty
much the same
since. It's a shameas these scenes could and should imo co exist in 
Clubland.

Hate to bring up the race thing as it's a can of worms but as white 
people got into house the black crowd moved out. This is simply an 
observation, but that's way it was.

Rav

Down Periscope

It certainly looks that way. Of course, it's not 100% that way however,
evidently.

On the whole however, what you've observed is the age old problem of
prejuidice, percieved or actual - this can play itself out in ways which are
obvious enough.

Sometimes it really is there, sometimes it isn't. Not everyone's as
enlightened as they ought to be, not everyone can tell the difference. And
that works both ways too! Also, most people are conservative in deed if not
in mind, they stick with what they know and surface appearances are
everything, as is going along with the crowd.

The ironic thing is, of course, the African-American roots of a lot of this
music, including so-called hard techno! So you have a situation in which
people of colour in the UK and Europe are rejecting a music in which people
of colour in the US, played a large part (and still do). And this applied
even when the music was relatively new and therefore still more easily
traceable to those roots.

k


Re: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread Martin Dust


On 23 Sep 2004, at 14:47, Mann, Ravinder wrote:

No I wouldn't say its 100%. I mean I still like techno : ) But as a 
music
that is African in its roots theres not many African decendants 
listening to

it. Go to a techno night and look around. It's clear to see.


Technically that isn't true tho is it.



As an example, my group of friends at the time 87 was made up of some 
White,
Afro-Carribean, Mixed Race/Heritage, Indian, a Brazilian, a typical 
inner

city bunch from Chapeltown Leeds. We used party to Rare Groove, Funk,
Reggae, Hip Hop. There many other such possees from other part of 
Leeds eg

Woodhouse.

Then came this early house out of Chicago playing in a couple of mid 
week

clubs, we didn't even know how to dance to it !!. What is Jackin'

The Warehouse, a club with then a wide music policy started to 
incoorparate

these new sounds and it simply blew up.

But these inner city possees moved away from the very scene they 
developed.


But why ??? Here's my take..

Well it became cheese, overcommercial, uncool, piano house and divas, 
songs

like 'Id rather Jack than Fleetwood Mac'.


pulls up a chair

Thing is, you can't force people to like something, regardless of their 
colour. The whole point of Techno at the start was being faceless - 
that was the part of the point/coda and probably why most people didn't 
get it.


I'd guess the reason there aren't many black people in clubs is because 
they don't want to go but then again I never see any one legged, leper 
lesbian's with blonde hair at clubs either - wonder where they all 
hang?


One of the great powers of Techno in the early days was that it brought 
people together regardless of colour and class. The story of the White 
man coming in and FIU is as old as the hills. I'll be brave and tell 
you exactly what FIU - Greed, that knows no colour.


Martin



RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
naw - someone on Gemm has it for $121.00
;)


   
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now there´s another piece of vinyl ill probably never findgrrr

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Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:36
To: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org
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Forever and a day was released on this 12...

http://www.discogs.com/release/99509

p

-Original Message-
From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 September 2004 10:33
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) If

mr baxter delivered the goods on there, never saw those tracks anywhere
else either..

and yeah, Mia Hesterley is magic, there´s a track that deserves a 12
release..

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:31
To: Martin Dust; Pascoe Mr S M
Cc: Mann, Ravinder; 313@Hyperreal.Org; dave cronin
Subject: RE: (313) If


Yeah I only found it on vinyl in the summer so I was bemused at the
quite
whack 'mega mix' style wrap-up on the final side! Spin-back city!

Plus the pressing is pretty weak in volume. There is (I think?) though,
a
longer version of 'Share This House' and some tracks make more sense it
seems to me via vinyl. All in all, it was a good introduction at the
time,
and some of the Derrick May-produced tracks are still of interest - e.g.
'Un
Deux Trois.' Plus of course there's 'Spark': Beautiful and not available
anywhere else.

k



I got my copy out last weekend, have you heard the mix side lately? The
amount of spin backs - made me smile...Still very fond of it tho...

Cheers
Martin





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RE: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread Mann, Ravinder

 But as a music that is African in its roots theres not many African 
 decendants 
 listening to it. Go to a techno night and look around. It's clear to see.

Technically that isn't true tho is it.

++ I thought Id see more diversity. Its certainly less diverse to the times I 
was  reffering to. 

 The Warehouse, a club with then a wide music policy started to
 incoorparate
 these new sounds and it simply blew up.

 But these inner city possees moved away from the very scene they
 developed.

 But why ??? Here's my take..

 Well it became cheese, overcommercial, uncool, piano house and divas,
 songs
 like 'Id rather Jack than Fleetwood Mac'.

pulls up a chair

Thing is, you can't force people to like something, regardless of their 
colour. 
+++ Aye. But you can 'program' them by making them want to associate.

The whole point of Techno at the start was being faceless - 
that was the part of the point/coda and probably why most people didn't 
get it.
+++ I think a lot of people got it early on. But the image changed. And techno 
instead of defending it's ground when underground.

I'd guess the reason there aren't many black people in clubs is because 
they don't want to go but then again I never see any one legged, leper 
lesbian's with blonde hair at clubs either - wonder where they all 
hang?
+++ Im sure they go to clubs, but I would say *tendancy* is soul and r+b clubs 
as compared to Dance clubs. There is also a greater emphasis on local blues and 
local parties cos many Taxis will not come to Chapletown after 12.00. Which I 
find bizzare.

One of the great powers of Techno in the early days was that it brought 
people together regardless of colour and class. 
+++ I agree 100%.

The story of the White 
man coming in and FIU is as old as the hills. I'll be brave and tell 
you exactly what FIU - Greed, that knows no colour.
+++Its not colour. Hip Hop - who FIU, who stole the soul. The Man can be of any 
colour.  

Rav


RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Kendrick
One went on ebay the other month for about £35.

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naw - someone on Gemm has it for $121.00
;)



   
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now there´s another piece of vinyl ill probably never findgrrr

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From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:36
To: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) If


Forever and a day was released on this 12...

http://www.discogs.com/release/99509

p

-Original Message-
From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 September 2004 10:33
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) If

mr baxter delivered the goods on there, never saw those tracks anywhere
else either..

and yeah, Mia Hesterley is magic, there´s a track that deserves a 12
release..

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:31
To: Martin Dust; Pascoe Mr S M
Cc: Mann, Ravinder; 313@Hyperreal.Org; dave cronin
Subject: RE: (313) If


Yeah I only found it on vinyl in the summer so I was bemused at the
quite
whack 'mega mix' style wrap-up on the final side! Spin-back city!

Plus the pressing is pretty weak in volume. There is (I think?) though,
a
longer version of 'Share This House' and some tracks make more sense it
seems to me via vinyl. All in all, it was a good introduction at the
time,
and some of the Derrick May-produced tracks are still of interest - e.g.
'Un
Deux Trois.' Plus of course there's 'Spark': Beautiful and not available
anywhere else.

k



I got my copy out last weekend, have you heard the mix side lately? The
amount of spin backs - made me smile...Still very fond of it tho...

Cheers
Martin





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RE: (313) Links

2004-09-23 Thread iancheshire
cheers for that Martin, great new resource section there!

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(313) Love Is The Message

2004-09-23 Thread alex . bond
Well.

I mean, I know I can be slow and all, but I'm at least 10 years LATE on
this one!
I think I've just realised from Tristan's weekend tracklists that the Ani
who did Love Is The Message is the Ani on this list.

Is that right?

Wow.
That's a CLASSIC! Pretty big round these parts too, used to get alot of
play round here.

(I think)

Sorry, just wanted to say that. It's a great record.

RESPECK

*in an Ali G style voice*
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Re: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread Martin Dust


On 23 Sep 2004, at 15:57, Mann, Ravinder wrote:



But as a music that is African in its roots theres not many African 
decendants
listening to it. Go to a techno night and look around. It's clear to 
see.


Technically that isn't true tho is it.

++ I thought Id see more diversity. Its certainly less diverse to the 
times I was  reffering to.


Try a Garage night :) Sheffield has a massive scene and the mix  is 
pretty even, just duck if something goes bang. The scene here is 
closing all the clubs down - seven shootings this year, very sad.





The Warehouse, a club with then a wide music policy started to
incoorparate
these new sounds and it simply blew up.

But these inner city possees moved away from the very scene they
developed.

But why ??? Here's my take..

Well it became cheese, overcommercial, uncool, piano house and divas,
songs
like 'Id rather Jack than Fleetwood Mac'.


pulls up a chair

Thing is, you can't force people to like something, regardless of their
colour.
+++ Aye. But you can 'program' them by making them want to associate.


:) Stupidity should be painful don't you think Rav *LOL*



The whole point of Techno at the start was being faceless -
that was the part of the point/coda and probably why most people didn't
get it.
+++ I think a lot of people got it early on. But the image changed. 
And techno instead of defending it's ground when underground.


I'm not sure it went over-ground really - most people still don't know 
what Techno is...




I'd guess the reason there aren't many black people in clubs is because
they don't want to go but then again I never see any one legged, leper
lesbian's with blonde hair at clubs either - wonder where they all
hang?
+++ Im sure they go to clubs, but I would say *tendancy* is soul and 
r+b clubs as compared to Dance clubs. There is also a greater emphasis 
on local blues and local parties cos many Taxis will not come to 
Chapletown after 12.00. Which I find bizzare.


Same here, but it's always been that way and it's probably because of a 
few idiots or people just doing a runner...Sheffield has a massive 
Blues club scene, some of them are almost legal they've been around 
that long. Great for chilling, chicken and playing dominos' - last one 
I went to had a wet t-shirt competition - a cough pointy titty comp 
as it said on the poster.




One of the great powers of Techno in the early days was that it brought
people together regardless of colour and class.
+++ I agree 100%.

The story of the White
man coming in and FIU is as old as the hills. I'll be brave and tell
you exactly what FIU - Greed, that knows no colour.
+++Its not colour. Hip Hop - who FIU, who stole the soul. The Man can 
be of any colour.




Dat man is Mr. Greed or is it Mr. Ego...

Martin



Re: (313) Love Is The Message

2004-09-23 Thread Tristan Watkins
New webmail client means I may be able to post from work now (we'll see if it 
goes 
through), and try to rival Alex's prolificness! 

Alex, it was Laura Gavoor who did the Ani vocals. 

T

On Thu Sep 23 16:05 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Well.

I mean, I know I can be slow and all, but I'm at least 10 years LATE on
this one!
I think I've just realised from Tristan's weekend tracklists that the Ani
who did Love Is The Message is the Ani on this list.

Is that right?

Wow.
That's a CLASSIC! Pretty big round these parts too, used to get alot of
play round here.

(I think)

Sorry, just wanted to say that. It's a great record.

RESPECK

*in an Ali G style voice*
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RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread placid
Not sure if it was a bootleg or not...

But either way.its a nice crisp loud pressing

p

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Sent: 23 September 2004 15:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Peteri, Jochem
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) If

One went on ebay the other month for about £35.

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Sent: 23 September 2004 14:57
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naw - someone on Gemm has it for $121.00
;)


 

  Peteri, Jochem

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313@hyperreal.org

  ridge.nlcc:

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  09/23/2004 04:37

  AM

 

 





now there´s another piece of vinyl ill probably never findgrrr

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Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:36
To: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org
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Forever and a day was released on this 12...

http://www.discogs.com/release/99509

p

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From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 September 2004 10:33
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) If

mr baxter delivered the goods on there, never saw those tracks anywhere
else either..

and yeah, Mia Hesterley is magic, there´s a track that deserves a 12
release..

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 23 september 2004 11:31
To: Martin Dust; Pascoe Mr S M
Cc: Mann, Ravinder; 313@Hyperreal.Org; dave cronin
Subject: RE: (313) If


Yeah I only found it on vinyl in the summer so I was bemused at the
quite
whack 'mega mix' style wrap-up on the final side! Spin-back city!

Plus the pressing is pretty weak in volume. There is (I think?) though,
a
longer version of 'Share This House' and some tracks make more sense it
seems to me via vinyl. All in all, it was a good introduction at the
time,
and some of the Derrick May-produced tracks are still of interest - e.g.
'Un
Deux Trois.' Plus of course there's 'Spark': Beautiful and not available
anywhere else.

k



I got my copy out last weekend, have you heard the mix side lately? The
amount of spin backs - made me smile...Still very fond of it tho...

Cheers
Martin





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RE: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread Mann, Ravinder
Try a Garage night :) Sheffield has a massive scene and the mix  is 
pretty even, just duck if something goes bang. The scene here is 
closing all the clubs down - seven shootings this year, very sad.

 Madness aint it, go for a night out, get shot at - egos need to kept in
check at some of these events.

... I don't really get out much nowadays but for cultural diversity in Leeds
try one of the SubDub (Ital Rockers/Simon Scott) nights. Digital Rootical
Dub. They're at the West Indian Centre and there's been one in conjuction
with Superconductor. 

Sheffield has a massive 
Blues club scene, some of them are almost legal they've been around 
that long. Great for chilling, chicken and playing dominos' - last one 
I went to had a wet t-shirt competition - a cough pointy titty comp 
as it said on the poster.
 Stop it, Im cracking up here. No mention of 'Batty Rider Shorts' and
'Pun Pun Pants'
Re Blues : Same in Leeds tho not been to any for years and years. Last time
I went to a Blues it Roots and not Ragga.

Rav.



Re: (313) This weekend's tracklists

2004-09-23 Thread marc christensen
Now that these have been referenced in another 
thread, can we expect to see the sets posted 
somewhere soon?


(please...)

-marc


At 6:56 PM +0100 9/19/04, Tristan Watkins wrote:

[313] 10th Anniversary  - UK (all tracks were created by one-time [313] list
participants)

Newworldaquarium - Daze [Delsin]
Newworldaquarium - Tresspassers [Delsin]
Morgan Geist - I Want To... [SSR]
$tinkworx - Saliva (Putsch '79 Remix) [Delsin]
$tinkworx - Yinmao [Platinum Projects]
Deep Forces - You're my One  Only [Foreplay Recordings]
Metro Area - The Art of Hot [Environ]
Ani - Love is the Message (For Those Who Didn't Hear It) [Prescription]
Merrick Brown - Stealth Crime [Tektite Recordings]
Stewart Walker - Something for You [Tektite Recordings]
Jacek Sienkiewicz - New Direction [Recorgnition]
Juan Atkins - Dusk Til Dawn [New Religion records]
Non Stop DJs - Furious (Raw Fury Dub) [Non Stop Productions]

T-Funkshun (may have a recording of this available soon)
==
Substance Abuse and MF Doom - Profitless Thoughts (Street) [Fat Beats]
The Pharcyde - Soul Flower (Remix) [Delicious Vinyl]
Renaissance Records - Do it to it [Renaissance Recordings]
The Afrobutt Express - Funk Surprise [Bigger Bear]
Tony Foster - After Party [Mode Recordings]
Diviniti - Find a Way (PirahnaHead's Intense Dub) [Women on Wax Recordings]
Omar-S - Always There [FXHE Records]
Omar S - Oasis Detroit #1 [FXHE Records]
Silvio Manuel - La Mente Oscura que es Carlo Marx (The Dark Mind that is
Carlo Marx) [Ferrispark Records]
Rick Wade - Night Station [Music Is... Records]
3 Chairs - Dreamz [MRKT Chairs Publishing]
The Rotating Assembly - Them Drums [Sound Signature]
Abe Duque - What Happened? (B1) [ADR]
Joshua - Rails [Music for Freaks]
Henrik Schwarz - Marvin [Mood Music]
Henrik Schwarz - Chicago [Mood Music]
Ron Trent  Chez Damier - Warfare [Track Mode Recordings]
Just One - Love2Love [Neroli]
Freeq Unique - Mind  Soul [Bitasweet Records]
DKD - Future Rage [Bitasweet/2000 Black]
Umod - Tromboline (Domu Rmx) [Sonar Kollektiv]
Rima - Telos (Isoul8 Remix) [Compost Records]
Orgue Electronique - Here I Come (Vengo) [Crème Organization]
Etienne de Crecy - Soul Seek [Different]
Aroy Dee / Peel Seamus - Razar [MOS Recordings]
Omar S - U - [Subgroundz Records]
DJ Yoav B - Luv Iz [Delsin]
I:Cube - Freez [Versatile Reocrds]
Perception and Mad Mike - Windchime [UR]
Juan Atkins - Dusk Til Dawn [New Religion records]
Mathew Jonson - Decompression [Minus]
Electrofunk - Bounce [Electrofunk Records]
Dan Curtin - Autonomic Groove [Down Low]
R-Tyme - R-Theme (Mayday Mix) [Transmat]
Kenny Larkin - Breathe [Peacefrog]
Dabrye - Magic Says [Ghostly International]

Tristan
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RE: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread dave cronin
erm yeah, probably got a bit carried away. i know the
new dance sound was important in introducing loads of
folks to techno, i shouldn't have been dismissive...

i guess the point i was trying to make is that there
are lots of other ways the vibe/sound spread.
something that isn't talked about as much is how some
of the british artists of the early-mid 90's (black
dog, b12, as one, etc), were playing some of these
sounds, which in fact were the most accessible way for
a guy in another midwestern us city to hear them.

also, for me, it's important to distinguish between
chicago house and detroit techno, because while i was
hearing a lot of the house cuts at clubs and parties,
and despite the similarities in both instrumentation
and approach, the difference between, say... kenny
larkin's we shall overcome and then metaphor a
couple years later was what made me really take
notice


--- Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 As far as London goes, I'm no expert, but I think
 The
 New Dance Sound... is maybe a bit overrated in
 it's
 influence on anyone but Brits (or maybe even just
 Londoners?). It's a good story, but I've never
 talked
 to anyone who got into detroit sounds because of
 it.
 (Though it probably did provide a bit of a cash
 infusion into some detroit studios.)
 
 I did, other people I know did too. I don't think
 that comp can be dismissed
 so lightly.
 
 k
 
 



Re: (313) Kraftwerk 12345678

2004-09-23 Thread jason kenjar
Im not sure where and when Alex got his info, but this is a snip of 
the press release that matt passed onto the list on June 22nd:


--
Kraftwerk  12345678 - The Catalogue will be available on September...
  
In a recent interview to italian newspaper La Stampa, Ralf Hütter 
confirmed release of Kraftwerk remastered albuns (12345678 - The 
Catalogue) on September, 2004.


They will be available in separated pieces and as a box, with the 
original artwork when they were first published.


The 8 albuns (Autobahn, Radioactivity, Trans Europe Express, The Man 
Machine, Computer World, Electric Cafe, The Mix and Tour de France 
Soundtracks ) will be published in CD and  vinyl, and later in Super 
Audio CD, in both English and  German versions.




It says vinyl right there, unless their plans have changed and I don't 
know about it. Alex?


-jk



On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, at 09:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Anyone have a release date for this and was the box set going to be
available on wax?


Mike

I've been told this isn't coming on vinyl.
But I'm not sure if that means as a boxset etc, as I thought they were
doing the vinyls.
But, I did get it from the horses mouth so to speak. Maybe this is 
just an

EMI uk thing?
Or maybe the guy just didn't know.

Alot of use?!

Alex


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RE: (313) Kraftwerk 12345678

2004-09-23 Thread sqrrt
Argh!  Still no sight of official re-issues of the first 3 albums.

What gives?!

sqrrt

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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk 12345678


Im not sure where and when Alex got his info, but this is a snip of
the press release that matt passed onto the list on June 22nd:

--
Kraftwerk  12345678 - The Catalogue will be available on September...
   
In a recent interview to italian newspaper La Stampa, Ralf Hütter
confirmed release of Kraftwerk remastered albuns (12345678 - The
Catalogue) on September, 2004.

They will be available in separated pieces and as a box, with the
original artwork when they were first published.

The 8 albuns (Autobahn, Radioactivity, Trans Europe Express, The Man
Machine, Computer World, Electric Cafe, The Mix and Tour de France
Soundtracks ) will be published in CD and  vinyl, and later in Super
Audio CD, in both English and  German versions.



It says vinyl right there, unless their plans have changed and I don't
know about it. Alex?

-jk



On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, at 09:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Anyone have a release date for this and was the box set going to be
 available on wax?

 Mike

 I've been told this isn't coming on vinyl.
 But I'm not sure if that means as a boxset etc, as I thought they were
 doing the vinyls.
 But, I did get it from the horses mouth so to speak. Maybe this is
 just an
 EMI uk thing?
 Or maybe the guy just didn't know.

 Alot of use?!

 Alex


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RE: (313) Kraftwerk 12345678

2004-09-23 Thread alex . bond
Argh!  Still no sight of official re-issues of the first 3 albums.

I heard they were doing them.

Im not sure where and when Alex got his info

from someone in EMI UK. So, it's quite possible that they're not doing them
in the UK, but are for other territories.
if you see what I mean.

but who knows.
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Re: (313) Kraftwerk 12345678

2004-09-23 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
That's the same press release I saw but it does say September as a release
date so they have 7 more days - I'm not holding my breath.
We should all know by now that Kraftwerk (that is to say Ralf and Florian)
are overly cautious about releasing their music. That's one of the factors
that drove Karl and Wolfgang to leave the group. The thing is - all this
music has already been released! So why the delay this time fellas?

MEK


   
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  m   cc:   313@hyperreal.org
   Subject:  Re: (313) Kraftwerk 
12345678
  09/23/2004 11:31 
  AM   
   
   




Im not sure where and when Alex got his info, but this is a snip of
the press release that matt passed onto the list on June 22nd:

--
Kraftwerk  12345678 - The Catalogue will be available on September...
In a recent interview to italian newspaper La Stampa, Ralf Hütter
confirmed release of Kraftwerk remastered albuns (12345678 - The
Catalogue) on September, 2004.

They will be available in separated pieces and as a box, with the
original artwork when they were first published.

The 8 albuns (Autobahn, Radioactivity, Trans Europe Express, The Man
Machine, Computer World, Electric Cafe, The Mix and Tour de France
Soundtracks ) will be published in CD and  vinyl, and later in Super
Audio CD, in both English and  German versions.



It says vinyl right there, unless their plans have changed and I don't
know about it. Alex?

-jk



On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, at 09:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Anyone have a release date for this and was the box set going to be
 available on wax?

 Mike

 I've been told this isn't coming on vinyl.
 But I'm not sure if that means as a boxset etc, as I thought they were
 doing the vinyls.
 But, I did get it from the horses mouth so to speak. Maybe this is
 just an
 EMI uk thing?
 Or maybe the guy just didn't know.

 Alot of use?!

 Alex


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(313) Charles Webster + Todd Sines ... this Saturday in NYC at Table 50

2004-09-23 Thread Todd Sines
reminding all of you guys again.. please come check out Mr. Webster's
first NYC appearance in 3+ years. It will be good. I promise. 


+odd
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CHARLES WEBSTER
Nottingham, England's Charles Webster makes his first appearance
in NYC since the release of his 2001 international hit LP, BORN ON 
THE 24TH OF JULY on UK's Peacefrog. Hear Charles play his hot new 
remixes of Nat King Cole, Da Lata, Ella Fitzgerald, Martina-Topley
Bird, plus new tracks from his upcoming deep, aquatic lounge + house
projects as PRESENCE + FURRY PHREAKS.

with support from
TODD SINES + SCALE, PEACEFROG, PLANET E
Sultry, soulful and seductive, Todd's selections make the mind,
heart + body move.


Check out this week's issues of TIME OUT NY and FLAVORPILL, where you
can win free tickets to this event by answering the trivia question. 
Hint, their website is listed below.

http://www.misorecords.co.uk/
http://www.peacefrog.com/
http://www.table50.com
http://www.scalestudio.com/
http://www.scalestudio.com/sound/sines/
http://nyc.flavorpill.net/mailer/issue224/index.html

illustrations by Emily at MISO
design by + SCALE

Table 50
643 Broadway at Bleecker
New York, NY 10012
212 253 2560

$10 before 12
$15 after

Limited $5 reduced guest list available
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For further information please contact
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+ SCALE
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///   
connecting the space between and within.


Re: (313) Mills vs. Garnier in Belgium last week

2004-09-23 Thread yussel
i'm gettting this message. anyone speak espanol?

Amigo do Techno


Este arquivo est

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Greg Earle wrote:

 http://www.technopride.net/download_center_lite/index.php?setsdomes/
 Laurent_Garnier_and_Jeff_Mills-Live_at_Switch_StudioBrussel-17-09
 -2004_hosted_by_www.technopride.net.mp3

   - Greg


 sendo baixado de um site fora do TechnoPride ou voc
 possui um Firewall ativo. Por favor, desligue o firewall apenas para
iniciar a transfer
ncia do arquivo e/ou baixe-o diretamente do site www.technopride.net.

Obrigado !!!

Equipe TechnoPride.



FW: (313) Mills vs. Garnier in Belgium last week

2004-09-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't speak Spanish or Portuguese but it looks more like the latter to me?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 September 2004 18:19
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Mills vs. Garnier in Belgium last week

i'm gettting this message. anyone speak espanol?

Amigo do Techno


Este arquivo est

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Greg Earle wrote:

 http://www.technopride.net/download_center_lite/index.php?setsdomes/
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 -2004_hosted_by_www.technopride.net.mp3

   - Greg


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ativo. Por favor, desligue o firewall apenas para iniciar a transfer ncia do
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Re: (313) Mills vs. Garnier in Belgium last week

2004-09-23 Thread yussel
ok- i got it, but it's going to take 20 hrs at my current DL speed.

anyone else having that trouble? anyone wanna put it on a faster server?






 On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Greg Earle wrote:

  http://www.technopride.net/download_center_lite/index.php?setsdomes/
  Laurent_Garnier_and_Jeff_Mills-Live_at_Switch_StudioBrussel-17-09
  -2004_hosted_by_www.technopride.net.mp3
 
  - Greg
 
 
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Re: (313) Mills vs. Garnier in Belgium last week

2004-09-23 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
I have dl the set but it's only an hour of music from Garnier and Mills, the
rest is just Studio Brussels talking an playing tunes.

U better try this:

http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/maps/programs/episodes/index.jsp?portals=2534202maps=3122274programs=15336460episodes=18317087

recored last night at VPRO radio in Amsterdam...1st and 2nd hour Mills and
Garnier in full effect...HipHop, Bossanova, classic techno, disco...

Martijn

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Mills vs. Garnier in Belgium last week


 ok- i got it, but it's going to take 20 hrs at my current DL speed.

 anyone else having that trouble? anyone wanna put it on a faster server?





 
  On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Greg Earle wrote:
 
   http://www.technopride.net/download_center_lite/index.php?setsdomes/
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   - Greg
  
  
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  ncia do arquivo e/ou baixe-o diretamente do site www.technopride.net.
 
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Re: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart

2004-09-23 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
There's some stuff on the early music policy/nights at the Hacienda written
down in the '24hr party people - Tony H. Wilson' book...

It's quite fun to read about the student nights at the Hac going off like a
rocket on cheap lager and indie music and the nights that Pickering was
playing
it was dead quiet with only 10 peeps around or so untill he picked up some
records suchs as no way back and it slowley turned around..

The rest is history...

Martijn (who's never been to the Hacienda or Manchester but did a project
for school on the Madchester scene,,,hey, i was young:-)





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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:03 PM
Subject: (313) bit more Hacienda info for Stewart


 I have it on good authority that the first record of this nature to land
in
 Manchester was Chip E Like This.
 That was late '86. 4 copies apparently.

 The first 'house' record to blow the whole thing up in Manchester was
 Adonis No Way Back.
  Apparently that's the one that kicked everything off. There were 6 copies
 in Manchester at first and it took nearly 4 weeks to get some more, after
 that they did around 300 copies out of one shop (on the black label press
 fact fans)!
 This was in '87.

 Apparently at this time they were still pretty much playing loads of
 different stuff down there, the house music was interspersed with alot of
 other stuff. Hip Hop etc. Mike Pickering started his 'new'night (didn't
ask
 if that was hot or nude or whatever) in '87 at some point.

 Also the kids wanting the house music early on were the Black kids
 apparently. In search of a different sound more than anything I'm told, to
 play with the other stuff big on that scene at the time. Think this came
 from them all dancing down the Gallery and Legends... Predominantly Black
 music clubs I'm told.

 I presume Greg Wilson was the dj at these joints. But don't know

 Also it's worth noting that alot of the original Chi stuff never really
got
 here. Persona stuff etc in particular. Don't know if anywhere in
 London/Brum/Sheffield/Glasgow or anywhere like that was getting them.

 Back to my hideyhole.

 Alex
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Re: (313) Underground Resistance - World 2 World

2004-09-23 Thread Jason Brunton
I thought there might be some artistic reason for this too but it's a 
lot more practical than that- you can only really use the plates of a 
record about 5 times and each set of plates is worth about 3000-5000 
records.  After that the plates have to be thrown away and the record 
remastered and recut from scratch- there are some instances in the UR 
(and other labels') back cat where the original masters are no longer 
available or people simply don't have the time to think about a record 
that might be 10 years old when you have a whole bunch of new releases 
coming out.


All I can say is that in this particular case (and a whole load of the 
other currently unavailable SUbmerge back cat) is that you won't have 
too long to wait before you get what you wish- BIG repress being 
planned right now.



cheers

Jason


PS One other reason why a record might be out of press is as a mark of 
respect to the artist- Drexiya RIP.



On 19 Sep 2004, at 10:36, Stewart Caig wrote:

I have no idea why, the only reason I can possibly think of is that 
it's
(IMO) the most amazing slice of techno that Mike Banks has ever 
produced and
one of the greatest techno records in existence period. Maybe he wants 
to
keep just that one record a little bit special by not repressing? Who 
knows.
Regardless of the reasons I still urge you to beg, borrow or steal a 
copy

from somewhere as I personally couldn't imagine life with out it!


- Original Message -
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: (313) Underground Resistance - World 2 World



I've been buying records for a few years now (since 1997), but I still

don't have the World 2 World ep. Is it the only record on Underground
Resistance that hasn't been repressed? And does anyone know why? 
'Cause it's

a shame I can't get a hold on this one.


Thanx in advance.







Re: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Matt MacQueen


On Sep 23, 2004, at 3:27 AM, Martin Dust wrote:


I got my copy out last weekend, have you heard the mix side lately? 
The amount of spin backs - made me smile...Still very fond of it 
tho...


i always got a kick out of that mix title, wasn't it something like 
Megamix: Detroit is Jacking.jacking was a chicago thing..  so 
here they are trying to take this sovereign step forward with the 
compliation as as techno!, defined as NOT house, yet they used a 
chicago word to describe the mix.. too funny.  maybe it should have 
been:  Detroit is Preppin or Detroit is Jitting,  haha


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Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com



Re: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Matt MacQueen


Forever and a day was released on this 12...

http://www.discogs.com/release/99509


anything else ever make it onto this label?  what's the story with 
it..?  never heard of it before, or was it a 1-and-done thing.




--
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Re: (313) wicki-wicki-whiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzz (was: If, longest thread subject in 313 history)

2004-09-23 Thread Matt MacQueen


On Sep 23, 2004, at 7:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey what's wrong with spinbacks?  If that was what made the mix 
whack then

I'm a whack DJ.


if you used backspins as much as this mix does, you would be 
backspinning 4 times during the track itself, and once or twice during 
every transition..  okay i'm exaggerating but let's just say, to hear 
it with today ears,  it's a little overboard  ;)


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Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com



(313) chaka edit

2004-09-23 Thread /0
hi,

got this chaka khan track from a friend the other day and started editing it
a bit.

its pretty rough, I recorded two pieces of me just playing with it.   I'd
like suggestions/comments if you listen.

here they are:

http://www.emmrecords.com/~fux//fux__editing_chaka_khan.mp3
http://www.emmrecords.com/~fux//fux__second_shot_at_chaka.mp3


these will NOT be released or profited from in any way, so I hope the
lawyers out there go easy on me :)

(original is about 100bpm, these are mid 130s)

-Joe



Re: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
If indeed it is the only release the catalog number is a bit of a curiosity

MEK



   
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 Forever and a day was released on this 12...

 http://www.discogs.com/release/99509

anything else ever make it onto this label?  what's the story with
it..?  never heard of it before, or was it a 1-and-done thing.



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Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com






RE: (313) Love Is The Message

2004-09-23 Thread ani
i love that tune, but it's not me.

one of my most vivid memories of laura was our discussion of our shared
name.  very nice person, she's missed.

not sure if this was posted on here yet or not:


the message is love  10-02-04

yin-sight tribute celebration honoring laura gavoor

king britt
ron trent
mike clark
korie
and other guests

johnasen charles gallery
1345 division st.
eastern market, detroit

doors at 10 pm

door + cd proceeds will go to world voice's 'laura ani gavoor dance
fund'
sponsored by scion

www.lauragavoor.org

http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?topic=19294.0


: -Original Message-
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
:
: I mean, I know I can be slow and all, but I'm at least 10 
: years LATE on this one! I think I've just realised from 
: Tristan's weekend tracklists that the Ani who did Love Is 
: The Message is the Ani on this list.
: 
: Is that right?




Re: (313) If

2004-09-23 Thread Matt MacQueen


On Sep 23, 2004, at 4:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If indeed it is the only release the catalog number is a bit of a 
curiosity


i bet there are others, just not put into discogs.. but i just wonder 
what they were or if there were any other Baxter or Detroit 
connections.  it's always weird how some of these detroit records end 
up on various random lables



http://www.discogs.com/release/99509




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Matt MacQueen
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Re: (313) Love Is The Message

2004-09-23 Thread Erin Bate
Laura Ani Gavoor is her name, and if you have ever heard Laura speak 
before, you can tell it is her!! The song is truely one of my favorites.

~Erin



Alex, it was Laura Gavoor who did the Ani vocals.