Re: (313) Rare Records in Rome? Help!

2004-11-22 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Rome is the illest city!
Those people know how to live. None of this no carbs, decaf coffee bollocks
there! Plus they have siestas! And sitting on an old corinthian column in a
park.
Try:
Disfunzioni Musicali - Via degli Etruschi
Soul Food - Via San Giovanni in Laterno, San Giovanni
Transmission - Via dei Salentini

Also go to:
Forum - my fave spot is the Temple of Vestal Virgins
Palatine - especially the Renaissance Farnese gardens within Tiberius' old
crib where the courtesans hung out
Pantheon - amazing
Piazza Navona - great people watching
St Catherine of Siena tomb in Santa Maria Sopra Minerva, most famous example
of anorexia mirabilis.
Colosseum - I bumped into Robert Carlyle there, how cool is that. Couldn't
recall his name, but.
Santa Maria in Aracoeli - most beautiful church location ever, and running
up the stairs will help you work off the gelati. ;)
Vatican Museums - silly hours and long queues but the Sistine Chapel is
worth it.


 Hi

 After some help, my friend just called and he's in Rome.

 Does anyone know any good second hand shops in Rome?

 He'll be looking for Italo/Disco etc - don't worry about the new records
 kinda shops.

 Any help much appreciated!!!

 Fab, you out there somewhere??!

 Alex


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Re: (313) ugly edits

2004-11-22 Thread James_Bucknell




i picked up this boot ugly edit 6 last week. the long, one-sided track
(which i believe was on ugly edit 1) has tweaked out frequencies which
really distort on my system. i know theo loves to f*%ck with the eqs, but
this is near unplayable. how are the frequencies on  the original edit 1?
james
www.jbucknell.com



   
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I have a copy of Ugly Edits vol. 6 with 3 tracks on it and now I discovered
there is another Ugly Edits vol. 6 with only 2 tracks on it. One of those
tracks is Theo's version of Lucille by Anthony Hamilton. Why are there 2
versions of Ugly Edits vol. 6 and are there others cases like this one?

Ow yeah, anyone who would like to share some details about the Ugly
Edits... please share! :-)

Thanx!

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Re: (313) ugly edits

2004-11-22 Thread alex . bond
i picked up this boot ugly edit 6 last week. the long, one-sided track
(which i believe was on ugly edit 1) has tweaked out frequencies which
really distort on my system. i know theo loves to f*%ck with the eqs, but
this is near unplayable. how are the frequencies on  the original edit 1?

James - is this the Made In Usa Edit?

If it is, I have an original one, and its mashed up, out of time and badly
made, but it's a ROUGH cut, one of my favourite edits by him.

Yeah, the levels aren't right, I always wondered if that was deliberate
though. But, my copy is playable, I've played it out a few times. Does
sound mashed up in certain places, but not so its unplayable.

Any help?

No. Thought not.

!!
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(313) new Mahogani (?)

2004-11-22 Thread alex . bond
When Moodymann passed through the other week he gave a load of records out.

Mark from Liverpool's girlfriend was lucky enough to get a new Mahogani
white label. I'm pretty sure it's not been out.

It's called something like freaky-deaky or something, and it's one sided
(?) and is a sleazy dirty house jam that reminds of prince/aaron carl etc.

Very very nice, pretty electronic too from what I remember.

Does anyone know anymore about this record?

Is it coming out? anyone know when?

It sounded pretty hot to me.

Alex
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(313) Dust Science Update

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Dust
We are all off to bed now but for those of you that are interested, 
we've updated our website.


More News/Releases/Artists will be added shortly, enjoy.

http://www.dustscience.com/Home/

Martin



Re: (313) Dust Science Update

2004-11-22 Thread Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike
Just wanted to say you 'respect'. The two releases of your label are so
excellent.


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http://wildtek.free.fr
http://groups.msn.com/313TechnoMusic


Re: (313) Dust Science Update

2004-11-22 Thread alex . bond
Martin,

I think you could be the Alistair Campbell of techno. There's more spin in
that press release than in my local laundrette.

; )

p.s. I can't get the clips to work
p.p.s. good luck, it looks good.
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(313) Keep ON

2004-11-22 Thread alex . bond
The new Keep On magazine is out.

Mr Fingers on the front cover, big article on Morgan Geist, loadsa good
chit.

BUY IT

: )
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(313) Abflug special, Karri O dj athens live mixes (deep techno)

2004-11-22 Thread Jussi Mononen

Hi all,

Roughly 170 minutes of deep techno in three parts. Recorder live at
the mbar in Helsinki 18th of November 2004. For your listening pleasure.
Grab the vibe, grab the mixes!

http://www.iki.fi/deep/mixes/karri_o/karri_o_at_abflug_special_18112004_part1.mp3 
(40,5MB/128kbps)


http://www.iki.fi/deep/mixes/dj_athens_at_abflug_special_18112004.mp3 
(66,6MB/128kbps)


http://www.iki.fi/deep/mixes/karri_o/karri_o_at_abflug_special_18112004_part2.mp3 
(47,7MB/128kbps)


with warm audiowaves for the cold winter,
your sound carrier,

/jUSSi 



(313) New Religion

2004-11-22 Thread alex . bond
Hey folks.

bit of New Religion info here:

http://www.newreligionrecords.com/

full site launch in January I think..

Alex
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Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-22 Thread Michael Lees

Thanks this is useful.

I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad.

It's very annoying, probably should have realised as it was fairly cheap 
and in stock.


I think my friendly children might be a bootleg too, although it doesn't 
look like one, the kick is really bad.


Seen as I buy quite a bit online, is there anyway to tell for certain if 
you're going to get a booty? Or is it just common sense? Also how does 
it work with trading standards if you're sold what is clearly a fake?


Cheers

-Mike



Maarten Baute wrote:

Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 2) (Not On Label)
Format: 12
Country: US?
Year: 2002
Catalog #: UGEDT002

Tracklisting:
A Untitled
B1 Untitled
B2 Untitled

Note:
Original white label with 3 disco edits. Tracks A  B1 got bootlegged on UGE
002?


Yes, this is the ORIGINAL ugly edits #2. The one with 2 tracks is the
rip-off.
The B2 is also featured on the fake Ugly Edits Vol.6.

Cheers,
Maarten



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(313) In the CD player

2004-11-22 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Well, after a couple of months not buying anything and listening to a fair
amount of obscure indie rock I just bought a bunch of CDs from the
following:

Sh*tmat - Full English Breakfast (Planet Mu)

DJ/Rupture - Special Gunpowder

Unkle - Never, Never, Land Ltd 2 CD (MoWax)

VA - Grime (Rephlex)

VA - Shockout (Shockout)

Finesse  Runway (Schematic)

VA - Children of Mu (Planet Mu)

Secret Frequency Crew - Forest of the Echo Downs (Schematic)

Sora - re.sort (Plop records)


Have to say, by far, my favorite is the Sh*tmat CD. Full-on jungle rave
mayhem.  People around me complain about the noise, which is always a good
sign.

The Unkle CD is crap mostly because of the extra CD containing remixes by
Hybrid and Sasha and some more crap progressive house rmixes. What the hell
were they thinking?

I know I bad-mouthed the whole Grime thing but I take it back - something
clicked finally. Stuff works well with UR releases.

The two Schematic CDs are great. I prefer the Secret Frequency Crew to
Finesse  Runway. I prefer the melodic electro sounds to the more retro
sounding Finesse/Runway.

Sora is really cool - Japanese minimal and quiet glitch with samples of
Bossa Nova Latin.
The Shockout compilation is nice as well - ragga/dancehall w/Guislain
Poirier, Kid 606, Teamshadetek, DJ/Rupture, and more.





Re: (313) In the CD player

2004-11-22 Thread yussel
that rupture is in my top 5 albums fo the year.

i'm continually amazed by it's creativity, diversity and listenability.




On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





 Well, after a couple of months not buying anything and listening to a fair
 amount of obscure indie rock I just bought a bunch of CDs from the
 following:

 Sh*tmat - Full English Breakfast (Planet Mu)

 DJ/Rupture - Special Gunpowder

 Unkle - Never, Never, Land Ltd 2 CD (MoWax)

 VA - Grime (Rephlex)

 VA - Shockout (Shockout)

 Finesse  Runway (Schematic)

 VA - Children of Mu (Planet Mu)

 Secret Frequency Crew - Forest of the Echo Downs (Schematic)

 Sora - re.sort (Plop records)


 Have to say, by far, my favorite is the Sh*tmat CD. Full-on jungle rave
 mayhem.  People around me complain about the noise, which is always a good
 sign.

 The Unkle CD is crap mostly because of the extra CD containing remixes by
 Hybrid and Sasha and some more crap progressive house rmixes. What the hell
 were they thinking?

 I know I bad-mouthed the whole Grime thing but I take it back - something
 clicked finally. Stuff works well with UR releases.

 The two Schematic CDs are great. I prefer the Secret Frequency Crew to
 Finesse  Runway. I prefer the melodic electro sounds to the more retro
 sounding Finesse/Runway.

 Sora is really cool - Japanese minimal and quiet glitch with samples of
 Bossa Nova Latin.
 The Shockout compilation is nice as well - ragga/dancehall w/Guislain
 Poirier, Kid 606, Teamshadetek, DJ/Rupture, and more.






(313) Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 60 minutes DJ Set

2004-11-22 Thread Gerald
Had to pass this along perhaps a more technically inclined
individual could figure out a way to convert it into an mp3 for everyone
to enjoy. 

Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 

60 minutes DJ Set (WindowsMedia Stream)
mms://217.160.208.199/kontor.cc/041113_martingore.wma  

Tracklisting: 

01. Planetary Assault Systems - Track 6 PEACEFROG 
02. Carsten Jost - Juliane DIAL 
03. Murcof - Ulysses LEAF 
04. Basic Channel - Q-Loop !K7 
05. Technova - Atmosphere HYDROGEN DUKEBOX 
06. Carl A. Finlow - Hardwired DEVICE 
07. Bitstream - Bass Movements MODERN LOVE 
08. Carl A. Finlow - Hardwired (Reprise) DEVICE 
09. Stewart Walker - Live Extract No.7 TRESOR 
10. Technova - We Got The Beat HYDROGEN DUKEBOX 
11. Electronic Systems - Cosmos Trip PROMO 
12. Thomas/Mayer - Kompakt Track 2 KOMPAKT 
13. Monochrome - Sand Jungle MUTE 
14. Electroroma - Autovox Telefunk PROMO 
15. Monolake - Cern MONOLAKE 
16. Bitstream - Bass Movements (Reprise) MODERN LOVE

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event organiser  writer - www.kickmagazine.ca 
host of 'equinox radio' on l'electrique @ www.netmusique.com
member - P U SHER www.pusher.foundationmusic.com 





(313) Dj /rupture

2004-11-22 Thread yussel
For anyone interested, my DJ /rupture article is online:
http://urb.com/feature/feat_rupt.shtml

it cuts off a few snetances before the ending, not exactly sure why.


Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-22 Thread Matt MacQueen


On Nov 22, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Michael Lees wrote:


Thanks this is useful.

I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad.


I have most of the Ugly Edits, some i bought in a rush and others 
really thought about, they're certainly not ALL knockouts but the 
better ones do have their moments (the Jill Scott one is probably still 
my favorite).  But as for sound quality, boots or no boots, i think the 
sound quality on most of them is fair to poor... they're not mastered 
as such... sounds quiet, muffled, sorta muddy...  they're edits so you 
have to forgive that a little, but I mean it's not like any of them 
have *that* great of sound quality to begin with...


peace

--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com



(313) Rolando last saturday in Eindhoven

2004-11-22 Thread kj at technotourist dot org


Last saturday i went to the 10th year birthday of the Fluid cub night 
from listmember Lady Aida. This was also her last Fluid night, after 
running it for 10 years (I saw acts like Mattew Herbert and Plaid there 
in 1994!). Last act was Rolando and he played an amazing set! Basically 
he played a detroit timeline going form old E-Dancer and Kenny Larkin 
stuff to the last UR tracks without dropping the usual hits. It was 
definitely food for the techno purists. Rolando is still one of the 
best techno dj's around to me.


2 good weeks in a row now with last weeks Rushhour party with Carl 
Craig and Moodymann (who dropped n.e.r.d. and the white stripes :)), 
next stop 2000 and one live  next weekend and then on to Dynamix II 
live in 013... yay!



KJ



Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-22 Thread Kent Williams
As much as I like what theo parrish does, in general, as a studio
weenie I wish he'd be a little more of a studio weeny, as in trying to
make things sound 'good' in traditional pro-audio terms.

To quote Shawn Rudiman, reviewing 'Dusty Cabinets' at the Shorecrest,
there's just no excuse for that snare.

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:37:48 -0600, Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Nov 22, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Michael Lees wrote:
 
  Thanks this is useful.
 
  I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad.
 
 I have most of the Ugly Edits, some i bought in a rush and others
 really thought about, they're certainly not ALL knockouts but the
 better ones do have their moments (the Jill Scott one is probably still
 my favorite).  But as for sound quality, boots or no boots, i think the
 sound quality on most of them is fair to poor... they're not mastered
 as such... sounds quiet, muffled, sorta muddy...  they're edits so you
 have to forgive that a little, but I mean it's not like any of them
 have *that* great of sound quality to begin with...
 
 peace
 
 --
 Matt MacQueen
 http://SonicSunset.com
 



(313) socal in december

2004-11-22 Thread matt kane's brain

hey guys,

i am traveling to southern california (camarillo to be specific) the first 
weekend in december. any 313-type events happening? (yes, i already know 
i'm a week early for t1000 and a week early for matthew dear and swayzak)

--
unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
matt kane's brain
http://www.hydrogenproject.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk



Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-22 Thread Kent Williams
On listening on line to the tracks, I think it was the splashy hihat
sound on 'Ebonics' not the snare on 'Dusty Cabinets' that Shawn was
objecting to.


On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:59:27 -0600, Kent Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As much as I like what theo parrish does, in general, as a studio
 weenie I wish he'd be a little more of a studio weeny, as in trying to
 make things sound 'good' in traditional pro-audio terms.
 
 To quote Shawn Rudiman, reviewing 'Dusty Cabinets' at the Shorecrest,
 there's just no excuse for that snare.
 



Re: (313) socal in december

2004-11-22 Thread yussel
you seem to have hit the one weekend with nothing going on.

keep an eye on flavorpill.com



On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, matt kane's brain wrote:

 hey guys,

 i am traveling to southern california (camarillo to be specific) the first
 weekend in december. any 313-type events happening? (yes, i already know
 i'm a week early for t1000 and a week early for matthew dear and swayzak)
 --
 unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
 matt kane's brain
 http://www.hydrogenproject.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk




Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-22 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On listening on line to the tracks, I think it was the splashy 
hihat
sound on 'Ebonics' not the snare on 'Dusty Cabinets' that Shawn 
was
objecting to.

shawn is just a theo hater. i dont discuss theo with shawn anymore 
because he is just irrational. i guess its sort of like if van 
gough (hypothetically) probably not being able to appreciate 
picasso because his art wasnt technical the same way his was. 

75% of theo's greatness is his lo-fi sensibility. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


(313) Records 4 Sale

2004-11-22 Thread Jim Bishop

most things are:

$3 domestic
$5 imports

A few may run more but your should be able to guess which ones.

Records
http://www.soundfixer.com/forsale.htm

email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Local to SF:
415-865-0251



RE: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-22 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
I dunno about this whole thing here. I've spoken with Kai and Theo about them 
boots and the way I understood it, the edits series was more of a tribute to 
those records he feels are especially influential and hard to trak down, but 
are personally important as well. Theo is a genuine music lover in the deepest 
sense of the word and the edits are pored over laboriously and worked in ways 
that display the affection he feels for the originals. I think that comes 
through in the finished product (albeit still with theo's trademark). This in 
mind, I can see why he might object to some guy who doesn't give the boots half 
a thought ripping him off. Now to be clear, I'm talking about ripping off 
someones ideas JUST to capitalise (which I don't think is/was theo's 
intentions) and not just the appropriation of a product in the copywrite sense 
(which he's obviously guilty of). Dunno really, there's a fine line there and I 
really can't tell which side I stand on. I will say this however, !
 If I were an old disco artist, I'd much rather theo/moxie crew/etc. do a 
tribute and release it on white than the label realising my one hit wonder is 
a classic and hire out a bunch of trance monkeys to do remixes and make a ton 
of cash off it. And I can tell you honestly, he ain't making THAT much off 
these anyway. Aight I've prolly said more than I should've, ain't gonna piss 
nobody off.

Kamal K. Stoddard
Turner Broadcasting Systems

 
 Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and 
becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. 
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:38 PM
 To: Michael Lees
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
 
 
 On Nov 22, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Michael Lees wrote:
 
  Thanks this is useful.
 
  I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad.
 
 I have most of the Ugly Edits, some i bought in a rush and 
 others really thought about, they're certainly not ALL 
 knockouts but the better ones do have their moments (the Jill 
 Scott one is probably still my favorite).  But as for sound 
 quality, boots or no boots, i think the sound quality on most 
 of them is fair to poor... they're not mastered 
 as such... sounds quiet, muffled, sorta muddy...  they're 
 edits so you have to forgive that a little, but I mean it's 
 not like any of them have *that* great of sound quality to 
 begin with...
 
 peace
 
 --
 Matt MacQueen
 http://SonicSunset.com
 


RE: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-22 Thread yussel
if it was 'just' for the love of the music, theo would make a lot more
copies of each. or at least sell them for his cost.

i don't fault theo for making bootlegs, but like it was said befoer,
calling foul on someone bootlegging your bootleg is an eye-roller.




On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Stoddard, Kamal wrote:

 I dunno about this whole thing here. I've spoken with Kai and Theo about them 
 boots and the way I understood it, the edits series was more of a tribute to 
 those records he feels are especially influential and hard to trak down, but 
 are personally important as well. Theo is a genuine music lover in the 
 deepest sense of the word and the edits are pored over laboriously and worked 
 in ways that display the affection he feels for the originals. I think that 
 comes through in the finished product (albeit still with theo's trademark). 
 This in mind, I can see why he might object to some guy who doesn't give the 
 boots half a thought ripping him off. Now to be clear, I'm talking about 
 ripping off someones ideas JUST to capitalise (which I don't think is/was 
 theo's intentions) and not just the appropriation of a product in the 
 copywrite sense (which he's obviously guilty of). Dunno really, there's a 
 fine line there and I really can't tell which side I stand on. I will say 
 this however,
  !
  If I were an old disco artist, I'd much rather theo/moxie crew/etc. do a 
 tribute and release it on white than the label realising my one hit wonder 
 is a classic and hire out a bunch of trance monkeys to do remixes and make a 
 ton of cash off it. And I can tell you honestly, he ain't making THAT much 
 off these anyway. Aight I've prolly said more than I should've, ain't gonna 
 piss nobody off.

 Kamal K. Stoddard
 Turner Broadcasting Systems


  Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and 
 becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about 
 change.



  -Original Message-
  From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:38 PM
  To: Michael Lees
  Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
 
 
  On Nov 22, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Michael Lees wrote:
 
   Thanks this is useful.
  
   I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad.
 
  I have most of the Ugly Edits, some i bought in a rush and
  others really thought about, they're certainly not ALL
  knockouts but the better ones do have their moments (the Jill
  Scott one is probably still my favorite).  But as for sound
  quality, boots or no boots, i think the sound quality on most
  of them is fair to poor... they're not mastered
  as such... sounds quiet, muffled, sorta muddy...  they're
  edits so you have to forgive that a little, but I mean it's
  not like any of them have *that* great of sound quality to
  begin with...
 
  peace
 
  --
  Matt MacQueen
  http://SonicSunset.com
 



(313) Elements : preview

2004-11-22 Thread M : A : T : R : I : X
greetings techno fans!
I just uploaded a new track Xenon, its a preview from my upcoming
Elements series. download the MP3 here:

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~matrix313/Deason_Xenon.mp3

there! that covers Xmas! :^)

sean



RE: (313) Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 60 minutes DJ Set

2004-11-22 Thread Tristan Watkins
 -Original Message-
 From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 November 2004 21:14
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 60 
 minutes DJ Set
 
 Had to pass this along perhaps a more technically 
 inclined individual could figure out a way to convert it into 
 an mp3 for everyone to enjoy. 
 
 Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 
 
 60 minutes DJ Set (WindowsMedia Stream)
 mms://217.160.208.199/kontor.cc/041113_martingore.wma  
 
 Tracklisting: 
 
 01. Planetary Assault Systems - Track 6 PEACEFROG 02. Carsten 
 Jost - Juliane DIAL 03. Murcof - Ulysses LEAF 04. Basic 
 Channel - Q-Loop !K7 05. Technova - Atmosphere HYDROGEN 
 DUKEBOX 06. Carl A. Finlow - Hardwired DEVICE 07. Bitstream - 
 Bass Movements MODERN LOVE 08. Carl A. Finlow - Hardwired 
 (Reprise) DEVICE 09. Stewart Walker - Live Extract No.7 
 TRESOR 10. Technova - We Got The Beat HYDROGEN DUKEBOX 11. 
 Electronic Systems - Cosmos Trip PROMO 12. Thomas/Mayer - 
 Kompakt Track 2 KOMPAKT 13. Monochrome - Sand Jungle MUTE 14. 
 Electroroma - Autovox Telefunk PROMO 15. Monolake - Cern 
 MONOLAKE 16. Bitstream - Bass Movements (Reprise) MODERN LOVE

Interesting. I just gave his releases from last year an online perusal about
30 minutes ago. Dug the music - wasn't particularly swayed by the vocals.
This looks nice. 
 
Tristan 
===
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



RE: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-22 Thread Tristan Watkins
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 November 2004 19:08
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
 
 Thanks this is useful.
 
 I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad.
 
 It's very annoying, probably should have realised as it was 
 fairly cheap and in stock.
 
 I think my friendly children might be a bootleg too, although 
 it doesn't look like one, the kick is really bad.

Unfortunately that's just the way 'Friendly Children' is. That and the kick
doesn't start to get farty until about two or three minutes in, when it also
doubles in volume, making it not only an extremely risky track to play at
volume, but one that will stand out like a sore thumb in the mix even in the
best conditions. It's a shame the fools who have bootlegged these Theo
Parrish records so far haven't had the decency to at least clean them up a
little. [Yes, that's a joke] 

Tom and I seem to have this disagreement once/week these days. ;) I'm all
for a bit of grit in recordings, or lo-fi production in general, but that
doesn't excuse a crappy recording, which is definitely what these are. You
just don't get kicks like that unless you're being willfully unconcerned
with those red lights that indicate it's TOO LOUD. 

While on this note, anyone know when that Carl Craig remix of 'Falling Up'
is due? 
 
Tristan 
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RE: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-22 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tom and I seem to have this disagreement once/week these days. ;) 
I'm all
for a bit of grit in recordings, or lo-fi production in general, 
but that
doesn't excuse a crappy recording, which is definitely what these 
are. You
just don't get kicks like that unless you're being willfully 
unconcerned
with those red lights that indicate it's TOO LOUD. 

i really love overdriving things, its been that way with me for a 
long time. i can remember being at my friends house when he got a 
4 track for the first time and we wanted to record a guitar part 
with about 25 effects on it, just to be annoying. we had to stand 
on the first floor while the amp and 4 track were on the 3rd floor 
in order to avoid the whole thing just being noise. 

but thats not the point. i actually wonder if maybe theres a 
digital stage in the mastering/pressing process that is making 
certain things sound bad. when i mix stuff down, i like my kick to 
be the loudest most obvious part, and thats the way theo's stuff 
is as well if you look at a recording of it. however, if you red 
line a drum like that in an analogue gain stage, it should just 
get really distorted and thick sounding, whereas like on the omar 
s 004 there's a farty sound on the kick which sounds more like 
digital clipping as opposed to that kind of analogue overdrive. so 
maybe whomever is mastering these things doesnt know what he's 
doing and is just cranking the levels until he can hear the non-
kick parts of the track and thus clips the hell out of the kicks, 
causing the farts. i have no idea where its occuring in the 
process, maybe they just started mixing down to digital and dont 
know what theyre doing. 

While on this note, anyone know when that Carl Craig remix 
of 'Falling Up'
is due? 

no clue. when i talked to malik pittman in the summer he was 
telling me he did a rmx of the LA williams cut on the beatdown 
comp and that it was supposed to be coming out on the second 
installment of remixes that i assume the c2 mix would be on. 
havent heard anything about it from him or rick since then. its 
been 2 years since the beatdown comp dropped, its time for some 
more stuff from that camp

tom 


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