Re: (313) Rare Records in Rome? Help!
Rome is the illest city! Those people know how to live. None of this no carbs, decaf coffee bollocks there! Plus they have siestas! And sitting on an old corinthian column in a park. Try: Disfunzioni Musicali - Via degli Etruschi Soul Food - Via San Giovanni in Laterno, San Giovanni Transmission - Via dei Salentini Also go to: Forum - my fave spot is the Temple of Vestal Virgins Palatine - especially the Renaissance Farnese gardens within Tiberius' old crib where the courtesans hung out Pantheon - amazing Piazza Navona - great people watching St Catherine of Siena tomb in Santa Maria Sopra Minerva, most famous example of anorexia mirabilis. Colosseum - I bumped into Robert Carlyle there, how cool is that. Couldn't recall his name, but. Santa Maria in Aracoeli - most beautiful church location ever, and running up the stairs will help you work off the gelati. ;) Vatican Museums - silly hours and long queues but the Sistine Chapel is worth it. Hi After some help, my friend just called and he's in Rome. Does anyone know any good second hand shops in Rome? He'll be looking for Italo/Disco etc - don't worry about the new records kinda shops. Any help much appreciated!!! Fab, you out there somewhere??! Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) ugly edits
i picked up this boot ugly edit 6 last week. the long, one-sided track (which i believe was on ugly edit 1) has tweaked out frequencies which really distort on my system. i know theo loves to f*%ck with the eqs, but this is near unplayable. how are the frequencies on the original edit 1? james www.jbucknell.com Simon Vrebos [EMAIL PROTECTED] .ac.beTo 313@hyperreal.org 19/11/04 08:02 PM cc Subject (313) ugly edits I have a copy of Ugly Edits vol. 6 with 3 tracks on it and now I discovered there is another Ugly Edits vol. 6 with only 2 tracks on it. One of those tracks is Theo's version of Lucille by Anthony Hamilton. Why are there 2 versions of Ugly Edits vol. 6 and are there others cases like this one? Ow yeah, anyone who would like to share some details about the Ugly Edits... please share! :-) Thanx! ForwardSourceID:NT00016082
Re: (313) ugly edits
i picked up this boot ugly edit 6 last week. the long, one-sided track (which i believe was on ugly edit 1) has tweaked out frequencies which really distort on my system. i know theo loves to f*%ck with the eqs, but this is near unplayable. how are the frequencies on the original edit 1? James - is this the Made In Usa Edit? If it is, I have an original one, and its mashed up, out of time and badly made, but it's a ROUGH cut, one of my favourite edits by him. Yeah, the levels aren't right, I always wondered if that was deliberate though. But, my copy is playable, I've played it out a few times. Does sound mashed up in certain places, but not so its unplayable. Any help? No. Thought not. !! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) new Mahogani (?)
When Moodymann passed through the other week he gave a load of records out. Mark from Liverpool's girlfriend was lucky enough to get a new Mahogani white label. I'm pretty sure it's not been out. It's called something like freaky-deaky or something, and it's one sided (?) and is a sleazy dirty house jam that reminds of prince/aaron carl etc. Very very nice, pretty electronic too from what I remember. Does anyone know anymore about this record? Is it coming out? anyone know when? It sounded pretty hot to me. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Dust Science Update
We are all off to bed now but for those of you that are interested, we've updated our website. More News/Releases/Artists will be added shortly, enjoy. http://www.dustscience.com/Home/ Martin
Re: (313) Dust Science Update
Just wanted to say you 'respect'. The two releases of your label are so excellent. -- Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://groups.msn.com/313TechnoMusic
Re: (313) Dust Science Update
Martin, I think you could be the Alistair Campbell of techno. There's more spin in that press release than in my local laundrette. ; ) p.s. I can't get the clips to work p.p.s. good luck, it looks good. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Keep ON
The new Keep On magazine is out. Mr Fingers on the front cover, big article on Morgan Geist, loadsa good chit. BUY IT : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Abflug special, Karri O dj athens live mixes (deep techno)
Hi all, Roughly 170 minutes of deep techno in three parts. Recorder live at the mbar in Helsinki 18th of November 2004. For your listening pleasure. Grab the vibe, grab the mixes! http://www.iki.fi/deep/mixes/karri_o/karri_o_at_abflug_special_18112004_part1.mp3 (40,5MB/128kbps) http://www.iki.fi/deep/mixes/dj_athens_at_abflug_special_18112004.mp3 (66,6MB/128kbps) http://www.iki.fi/deep/mixes/karri_o/karri_o_at_abflug_special_18112004_part2.mp3 (47,7MB/128kbps) with warm audiowaves for the cold winter, your sound carrier, /jUSSi
(313) New Religion
Hey folks. bit of New Religion info here: http://www.newreligionrecords.com/ full site launch in January I think.. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
Thanks this is useful. I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad. It's very annoying, probably should have realised as it was fairly cheap and in stock. I think my friendly children might be a bootleg too, although it doesn't look like one, the kick is really bad. Seen as I buy quite a bit online, is there anyway to tell for certain if you're going to get a booty? Or is it just common sense? Also how does it work with trading standards if you're sold what is clearly a fake? Cheers -Mike Maarten Baute wrote: Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 2) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US? Year: 2002 Catalog #: UGEDT002 Tracklisting: A Untitled B1 Untitled B2 Untitled Note: Original white label with 3 disco edits. Tracks A B1 got bootlegged on UGE 002? Yes, this is the ORIGINAL ugly edits #2. The one with 2 tracks is the rip-off. The B2 is also featured on the fake Ugly Edits Vol.6. Cheers, Maarten This message has been scanned but we cannot guarantee that it and any attachments are free from viruses or other damaging content: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.
(313) In the CD player
Well, after a couple of months not buying anything and listening to a fair amount of obscure indie rock I just bought a bunch of CDs from the following: Sh*tmat - Full English Breakfast (Planet Mu) DJ/Rupture - Special Gunpowder Unkle - Never, Never, Land Ltd 2 CD (MoWax) VA - Grime (Rephlex) VA - Shockout (Shockout) Finesse Runway (Schematic) VA - Children of Mu (Planet Mu) Secret Frequency Crew - Forest of the Echo Downs (Schematic) Sora - re.sort (Plop records) Have to say, by far, my favorite is the Sh*tmat CD. Full-on jungle rave mayhem. People around me complain about the noise, which is always a good sign. The Unkle CD is crap mostly because of the extra CD containing remixes by Hybrid and Sasha and some more crap progressive house rmixes. What the hell were they thinking? I know I bad-mouthed the whole Grime thing but I take it back - something clicked finally. Stuff works well with UR releases. The two Schematic CDs are great. I prefer the Secret Frequency Crew to Finesse Runway. I prefer the melodic electro sounds to the more retro sounding Finesse/Runway. Sora is really cool - Japanese minimal and quiet glitch with samples of Bossa Nova Latin. The Shockout compilation is nice as well - ragga/dancehall w/Guislain Poirier, Kid 606, Teamshadetek, DJ/Rupture, and more.
Re: (313) In the CD player
that rupture is in my top 5 albums fo the year. i'm continually amazed by it's creativity, diversity and listenability. On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, after a couple of months not buying anything and listening to a fair amount of obscure indie rock I just bought a bunch of CDs from the following: Sh*tmat - Full English Breakfast (Planet Mu) DJ/Rupture - Special Gunpowder Unkle - Never, Never, Land Ltd 2 CD (MoWax) VA - Grime (Rephlex) VA - Shockout (Shockout) Finesse Runway (Schematic) VA - Children of Mu (Planet Mu) Secret Frequency Crew - Forest of the Echo Downs (Schematic) Sora - re.sort (Plop records) Have to say, by far, my favorite is the Sh*tmat CD. Full-on jungle rave mayhem. People around me complain about the noise, which is always a good sign. The Unkle CD is crap mostly because of the extra CD containing remixes by Hybrid and Sasha and some more crap progressive house rmixes. What the hell were they thinking? I know I bad-mouthed the whole Grime thing but I take it back - something clicked finally. Stuff works well with UR releases. The two Schematic CDs are great. I prefer the Secret Frequency Crew to Finesse Runway. I prefer the melodic electro sounds to the more retro sounding Finesse/Runway. Sora is really cool - Japanese minimal and quiet glitch with samples of Bossa Nova Latin. The Shockout compilation is nice as well - ragga/dancehall w/Guislain Poirier, Kid 606, Teamshadetek, DJ/Rupture, and more.
(313) Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 60 minutes DJ Set
Had to pass this along perhaps a more technically inclined individual could figure out a way to convert it into an mp3 for everyone to enjoy. Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 60 minutes DJ Set (WindowsMedia Stream) mms://217.160.208.199/kontor.cc/041113_martingore.wma Tracklisting: 01. Planetary Assault Systems - Track 6 PEACEFROG 02. Carsten Jost - Juliane DIAL 03. Murcof - Ulysses LEAF 04. Basic Channel - Q-Loop !K7 05. Technova - Atmosphere HYDROGEN DUKEBOX 06. Carl A. Finlow - Hardwired DEVICE 07. Bitstream - Bass Movements MODERN LOVE 08. Carl A. Finlow - Hardwired (Reprise) DEVICE 09. Stewart Walker - Live Extract No.7 TRESOR 10. Technova - We Got The Beat HYDROGEN DUKEBOX 11. Electronic Systems - Cosmos Trip PROMO 12. Thomas/Mayer - Kompakt Track 2 KOMPAKT 13. Monochrome - Sand Jungle MUTE 14. Electroroma - Autovox Telefunk PROMO 15. Monolake - Cern MONOLAKE 16. Bitstream - Bass Movements (Reprise) MODERN LOVE -- website: www.gerald-matrix.com event organiser writer - www.kickmagazine.ca host of 'equinox radio' on l'electrique @ www.netmusique.com member - P U SHER www.pusher.foundationmusic.com
(313) Dj /rupture
For anyone interested, my DJ /rupture article is online: http://urb.com/feature/feat_rupt.shtml it cuts off a few snetances before the ending, not exactly sure why.
Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
On Nov 22, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Michael Lees wrote: Thanks this is useful. I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad. I have most of the Ugly Edits, some i bought in a rush and others really thought about, they're certainly not ALL knockouts but the better ones do have their moments (the Jill Scott one is probably still my favorite). But as for sound quality, boots or no boots, i think the sound quality on most of them is fair to poor... they're not mastered as such... sounds quiet, muffled, sorta muddy... they're edits so you have to forgive that a little, but I mean it's not like any of them have *that* great of sound quality to begin with... peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
(313) Rolando last saturday in Eindhoven
Last saturday i went to the 10th year birthday of the Fluid cub night from listmember Lady Aida. This was also her last Fluid night, after running it for 10 years (I saw acts like Mattew Herbert and Plaid there in 1994!). Last act was Rolando and he played an amazing set! Basically he played a detroit timeline going form old E-Dancer and Kenny Larkin stuff to the last UR tracks without dropping the usual hits. It was definitely food for the techno purists. Rolando is still one of the best techno dj's around to me. 2 good weeks in a row now with last weeks Rushhour party with Carl Craig and Moodymann (who dropped n.e.r.d. and the white stripes :)), next stop 2000 and one live next weekend and then on to Dynamix II live in 013... yay! KJ
Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
As much as I like what theo parrish does, in general, as a studio weenie I wish he'd be a little more of a studio weeny, as in trying to make things sound 'good' in traditional pro-audio terms. To quote Shawn Rudiman, reviewing 'Dusty Cabinets' at the Shorecrest, there's just no excuse for that snare. On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:37:48 -0600, Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 22, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Michael Lees wrote: Thanks this is useful. I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad. I have most of the Ugly Edits, some i bought in a rush and others really thought about, they're certainly not ALL knockouts but the better ones do have their moments (the Jill Scott one is probably still my favorite). But as for sound quality, boots or no boots, i think the sound quality on most of them is fair to poor... they're not mastered as such... sounds quiet, muffled, sorta muddy... they're edits so you have to forgive that a little, but I mean it's not like any of them have *that* great of sound quality to begin with... peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
(313) socal in december
hey guys, i am traveling to southern california (camarillo to be specific) the first weekend in december. any 313-type events happening? (yes, i already know i'm a week early for t1000 and a week early for matthew dear and swayzak) -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
On listening on line to the tracks, I think it was the splashy hihat sound on 'Ebonics' not the snare on 'Dusty Cabinets' that Shawn was objecting to. On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:59:27 -0600, Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As much as I like what theo parrish does, in general, as a studio weenie I wish he'd be a little more of a studio weeny, as in trying to make things sound 'good' in traditional pro-audio terms. To quote Shawn Rudiman, reviewing 'Dusty Cabinets' at the Shorecrest, there's just no excuse for that snare.
Re: (313) socal in december
you seem to have hit the one weekend with nothing going on. keep an eye on flavorpill.com On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, matt kane's brain wrote: hey guys, i am traveling to southern california (camarillo to be specific) the first weekend in december. any 313-type events happening? (yes, i already know i'm a week early for t1000 and a week early for matthew dear and swayzak) -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
-- Original Message -- From: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] On listening on line to the tracks, I think it was the splashy hihat sound on 'Ebonics' not the snare on 'Dusty Cabinets' that Shawn was objecting to. shawn is just a theo hater. i dont discuss theo with shawn anymore because he is just irrational. i guess its sort of like if van gough (hypothetically) probably not being able to appreciate picasso because his art wasnt technical the same way his was. 75% of theo's greatness is his lo-fi sensibility. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Records 4 Sale
most things are: $3 domestic $5 imports A few may run more but your should be able to guess which ones. Records http://www.soundfixer.com/forsale.htm email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Local to SF: 415-865-0251
RE: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
I dunno about this whole thing here. I've spoken with Kai and Theo about them boots and the way I understood it, the edits series was more of a tribute to those records he feels are especially influential and hard to trak down, but are personally important as well. Theo is a genuine music lover in the deepest sense of the word and the edits are pored over laboriously and worked in ways that display the affection he feels for the originals. I think that comes through in the finished product (albeit still with theo's trademark). This in mind, I can see why he might object to some guy who doesn't give the boots half a thought ripping him off. Now to be clear, I'm talking about ripping off someones ideas JUST to capitalise (which I don't think is/was theo's intentions) and not just the appropriation of a product in the copywrite sense (which he's obviously guilty of). Dunno really, there's a fine line there and I really can't tell which side I stand on. I will say this however, ! If I were an old disco artist, I'd much rather theo/moxie crew/etc. do a tribute and release it on white than the label realising my one hit wonder is a classic and hire out a bunch of trance monkeys to do remixes and make a ton of cash off it. And I can tell you honestly, he ain't making THAT much off these anyway. Aight I've prolly said more than I should've, ain't gonna piss nobody off. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:38 PM To: Michael Lees Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail) On Nov 22, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Michael Lees wrote: Thanks this is useful. I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad. I have most of the Ugly Edits, some i bought in a rush and others really thought about, they're certainly not ALL knockouts but the better ones do have their moments (the Jill Scott one is probably still my favorite). But as for sound quality, boots or no boots, i think the sound quality on most of them is fair to poor... they're not mastered as such... sounds quiet, muffled, sorta muddy... they're edits so you have to forgive that a little, but I mean it's not like any of them have *that* great of sound quality to begin with... peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
if it was 'just' for the love of the music, theo would make a lot more copies of each. or at least sell them for his cost. i don't fault theo for making bootlegs, but like it was said befoer, calling foul on someone bootlegging your bootleg is an eye-roller. On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: I dunno about this whole thing here. I've spoken with Kai and Theo about them boots and the way I understood it, the edits series was more of a tribute to those records he feels are especially influential and hard to trak down, but are personally important as well. Theo is a genuine music lover in the deepest sense of the word and the edits are pored over laboriously and worked in ways that display the affection he feels for the originals. I think that comes through in the finished product (albeit still with theo's trademark). This in mind, I can see why he might object to some guy who doesn't give the boots half a thought ripping him off. Now to be clear, I'm talking about ripping off someones ideas JUST to capitalise (which I don't think is/was theo's intentions) and not just the appropriation of a product in the copywrite sense (which he's obviously guilty of). Dunno really, there's a fine line there and I really can't tell which side I stand on. I will say this however, ! If I were an old disco artist, I'd much rather theo/moxie crew/etc. do a tribute and release it on white than the label realising my one hit wonder is a classic and hire out a bunch of trance monkeys to do remixes and make a ton of cash off it. And I can tell you honestly, he ain't making THAT much off these anyway. Aight I've prolly said more than I should've, ain't gonna piss nobody off. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:38 PM To: Michael Lees Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail) On Nov 22, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Michael Lees wrote: Thanks this is useful. I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad. I have most of the Ugly Edits, some i bought in a rush and others really thought about, they're certainly not ALL knockouts but the better ones do have their moments (the Jill Scott one is probably still my favorite). But as for sound quality, boots or no boots, i think the sound quality on most of them is fair to poor... they're not mastered as such... sounds quiet, muffled, sorta muddy... they're edits so you have to forgive that a little, but I mean it's not like any of them have *that* great of sound quality to begin with... peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
(313) Elements : preview
greetings techno fans! I just uploaded a new track Xenon, its a preview from my upcoming Elements series. download the MP3 here: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~matrix313/Deason_Xenon.mp3 there! that covers Xmas! :^) sean
RE: (313) Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 60 minutes DJ Set
-Original Message- From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2004 21:14 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 60 minutes DJ Set Had to pass this along perhaps a more technically inclined individual could figure out a way to convert it into an mp3 for everyone to enjoy. Martin L. Gore (Depeche Mode) 13-11-2004 60 minutes DJ Set (WindowsMedia Stream) mms://217.160.208.199/kontor.cc/041113_martingore.wma Tracklisting: 01. Planetary Assault Systems - Track 6 PEACEFROG 02. Carsten Jost - Juliane DIAL 03. Murcof - Ulysses LEAF 04. Basic Channel - Q-Loop !K7 05. Technova - Atmosphere HYDROGEN DUKEBOX 06. Carl A. Finlow - Hardwired DEVICE 07. Bitstream - Bass Movements MODERN LOVE 08. Carl A. Finlow - Hardwired (Reprise) DEVICE 09. Stewart Walker - Live Extract No.7 TRESOR 10. Technova - We Got The Beat HYDROGEN DUKEBOX 11. Electronic Systems - Cosmos Trip PROMO 12. Thomas/Mayer - Kompakt Track 2 KOMPAKT 13. Monochrome - Sand Jungle MUTE 14. Electroroma - Autovox Telefunk PROMO 15. Monolake - Cern MONOLAKE 16. Bitstream - Bass Movements (Reprise) MODERN LOVE Interesting. I just gave his releases from last year an online perusal about 30 minutes ago. Dug the music - wasn't particularly swayed by the vocals. This looks nice. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
-Original Message- From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2004 19:08 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail) Thanks this is useful. I wondered why my #2 sounded so bad. It's very annoying, probably should have realised as it was fairly cheap and in stock. I think my friendly children might be a bootleg too, although it doesn't look like one, the kick is really bad. Unfortunately that's just the way 'Friendly Children' is. That and the kick doesn't start to get farty until about two or three minutes in, when it also doubles in volume, making it not only an extremely risky track to play at volume, but one that will stand out like a sore thumb in the mix even in the best conditions. It's a shame the fools who have bootlegged these Theo Parrish records so far haven't had the decency to at least clean them up a little. [Yes, that's a joke] Tom and I seem to have this disagreement once/week these days. ;) I'm all for a bit of grit in recordings, or lo-fi production in general, but that doesn't excuse a crappy recording, which is definitely what these are. You just don't get kicks like that unless you're being willfully unconcerned with those red lights that indicate it's TOO LOUD. While on this note, anyone know when that Carl Craig remix of 'Falling Up' is due? Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
-- Original Message -- From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom and I seem to have this disagreement once/week these days. ;) I'm all for a bit of grit in recordings, or lo-fi production in general, but that doesn't excuse a crappy recording, which is definitely what these are. You just don't get kicks like that unless you're being willfully unconcerned with those red lights that indicate it's TOO LOUD. i really love overdriving things, its been that way with me for a long time. i can remember being at my friends house when he got a 4 track for the first time and we wanted to record a guitar part with about 25 effects on it, just to be annoying. we had to stand on the first floor while the amp and 4 track were on the 3rd floor in order to avoid the whole thing just being noise. but thats not the point. i actually wonder if maybe theres a digital stage in the mastering/pressing process that is making certain things sound bad. when i mix stuff down, i like my kick to be the loudest most obvious part, and thats the way theo's stuff is as well if you look at a recording of it. however, if you red line a drum like that in an analogue gain stage, it should just get really distorted and thick sounding, whereas like on the omar s 004 there's a farty sound on the kick which sounds more like digital clipping as opposed to that kind of analogue overdrive. so maybe whomever is mastering these things doesnt know what he's doing and is just cranking the levels until he can hear the non- kick parts of the track and thus clips the hell out of the kicks, causing the farts. i have no idea where its occuring in the process, maybe they just started mixing down to digital and dont know what theyre doing. While on this note, anyone know when that Carl Craig remix of 'Falling Up' is due? no clue. when i talked to malik pittman in the summer he was telling me he did a rmx of the LA williams cut on the beatdown comp and that it was supposed to be coming out on the second installment of remixes that i assume the c2 mix would be on. havent heard anything about it from him or rick since then. its been 2 years since the beatdown comp dropped, its time for some more stuff from that camp tom andythepooh.com