Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
Cheers Martin, The electro cut on the B side is really NICE! Dns. On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: Limited version, 300 http://www.dj-surgeon.com/store/ Cheers Martin
Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
ka-ching. thanks Martin. On Jan 10, 2005, at 1:14 PM, Martin Dust wrote: Limited version, 300 http://www.dj-surgeon.com/store/ Cheers Martin
Re: (313) Peter Shapiro' Rough Guide to Drum Bass?
On Jan 10, 2005, at 5:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who the hell is this guy and why did they allow him to write the Rough Guide to Drum Bass? snip wish Penguin books would have given the assignment to someone else because this is crap LOL.. yeah i've learned a lot about DnB just from the people on 313 who have pointed me to 'essential' releases from the golden era, as it were. I still have just a tiny tiny fraction of the good stuff, but thanks to 313 dnb'ers who dropped knowledge to me over the years. Sounds like it's better advice than said Rough Guide. ;) peace -- Matt MacQueen http://sonicsunset.com
(313) OT: Old pic of Hamtramck
Just posted to http://www.livejournal.com/community/foundphotos/ http://img2.imagevenue.com/loc44/_aaa.JPG 1970's Hamtramck!
(313) re: Monolake in NYC Thursday
Followed Friday by Mr. Clark Warner and Pheek downstairs. Lovely. Nick
RE: (313) Krafwerk Booty
There's nothing like a bit of intemperance early in the morning and here's one from me: Phonica (and the co and people from which it evolved) is well-known in our little technowelt for its sharp practices and p.o.s. attitude to both customers and staff. I've also noticed that the descriptions on the records are often inaccurate at best (e.g. saying Black Noize is actually Shake?!) and at worst misleading. Selling this boot and giving out the subtext of the tracks being 'ultra-rare' as a kind of justification, seems to be just an extension of the above. There I feel better now... k https://www.phonicarecords.co.uk/detail.aspx?ID=2986 Martin
Re: (313) Krafwerk Booty
I thought about not posting it to be honest Ken, I've yet to find a good mastered (loud) piece of early vinyl by Kraftwerk. I picked a few up from HTFR, and they are all shocking... Kinda thought some people may be interested and yes the staff of this shop are of legend for being rude and snotty. Glad I could help ease the tension :) M On 11 Jan 2005, at 08:04, Odeluga, Ken wrote: There's nothing like a bit of intemperance early in the morning and here's one from me: Phonica (and the co and people from which it evolved) is well-known in our little technowelt for its sharp practices and p.o.s. attitude to both customers and staff. I've also noticed that the descriptions on the records are often inaccurate at best (e.g. saying Black Noize is actually Shake?!) and at worst misleading. Selling this boot and giving out the subtext of the tracks being 'ultra-rare' as a kind of justification, seems to be just an extension of the above. There I feel better now... k https://www.phonicarecords.co.uk/detail.aspx?ID=2986 Martin
Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
You should hear the full track, loaded with brummy dark mind funk - brilliant track. Martin On 11 Jan 2005, at 00:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers Martin, The electro cut on the B side is really NICE! Dns. On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: Limited version, 300 http://www.dj-surgeon.com/store/ Cheers Martin
Re: (313) Krafwerk Booty
hmm well I have never had a problem at Phonica but then I can be quite thick skinned to that kinda crap..but yeah the desciptions are wrong and the ultra rare are suspect at times.. I thought about not posting it to be honest Ken, I've yet to find a good mastered (loud) piece of early vinyl by Kraftwerk. I picked a few up from HTFR, and they are all shocking... Kinda thought some people may be interested and yes the staff of this shop are of legend for being rude and snotty. Glad I could help ease the tension :) M On 11 Jan 2005, at 08:04, Odeluga, Ken wrote: There's nothing like a bit of intemperance early in the morning and here's one from me: Phonica (and the co and people from which it evolved) is well-known in our little technowelt for its sharp practices and p.o.s. attitude to both customers and staff. I've also noticed that the descriptions on the records are often inaccurate at best (e.g. saying Black Noize is actually Shake?!) and at worst misleading. Selling this boot and giving out the subtext of the tracks being 'ultra-rare' as a kind of justification, seems to be just an extension of the above. There I feel better now... k https://www.phonicarecords.co.uk/detail.aspx?ID=2986 Martin
RE: (313) Krafwerk Booty
No worries Martin, I don't blame you of course! :-) I tell you what; last year I bought the German edition (with English text. There's also a German edition with German text!) of 'Trans Europe Express'. It sounds very clear and reasonably loud to me. I think it's this: http://www.discogs.com/release/23516 The UK edition of the LP of the same name isn't too bad either. k -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2005 08:32 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: '313' Subject: Re: (313) Krafwerk Booty I thought about not posting it to be honest Ken, I've yet to find a good mastered (loud) piece of early vinyl by Kraftwerk. I picked a few up from HTFR, and they are all shocking... Kinda thought some people may be interested and yes the staff of this shop are of legend for being rude and snotty. Glad I could help ease the tension :) M On 11 Jan 2005, at 08:04, Odeluga, Ken wrote: There's nothing like a bit of intemperance early in the morning and here's one from me: Phonica (and the co and people from which it evolved) is well-known in our little technowelt for its sharp practices and p.o.s. attitude to both customers and staff. I've also noticed that the descriptions on the records are often inaccurate at best (e.g. saying Black Noize is actually Shake?!) and at worst misleading. Selling this boot and giving out the subtext of the tracks being 'ultra-rare' as a kind of justification, seems to be just an extension of the above. There I feel better now... k https://www.phonicarecords.co.uk/detail.aspx?ID=2986 Martin
Re: (313) Krafwerk Booty
On 11 Jan 2005, at 10:25, Odeluga, Ken wrote: No worries Martin, I don't blame you of course! :-) Feel free, I get the blame for everything else :) I could start a world war ordering a pint me :) I tell you what; last year I bought the German edition (with English text. There's also a German edition with German text!) of 'Trans Europe Express'. It sounds very clear and reasonably loud to me. I think it's this: http://www.discogs.com/release/23516 The UK edition of the LP of the same name isn't too bad either. I think most of the old 12 I have are booties, as they look like direct ports from the album. I have a copy of the Model that sounds like it was mastered through two cans and some damp string! M k -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2005 08:32 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: '313' Subject: Re: (313) Krafwerk Booty I thought about not posting it to be honest Ken, I've yet to find a good mastered (loud) piece of early vinyl by Kraftwerk. I picked a few up from HTFR, and they are all shocking... Kinda thought some people may be interested and yes the staff of this shop are of legend for being rude and snotty. Glad I could help ease the tension :) M On 11 Jan 2005, at 08:04, Odeluga, Ken wrote: There's nothing like a bit of intemperance early in the morning and here's one from me: Phonica (and the co and people from which it evolved) is well-known in our little technowelt for its sharp practices and p.o.s. attitude to both customers and staff. I've also noticed that the descriptions on the records are often inaccurate at best (e.g. saying Black Noize is actually Shake?!) and at worst misleading. Selling this boot and giving out the subtext of the tracks being 'ultra-rare' as a kind of justification, seems to be just an extension of the above. There I feel better now... k https://www.phonicarecords.co.uk/detail.aspx?ID=2986 Martin
RE: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
Annoyingly, the Worldpay server is moving at a snail-like pace - I guess it's being swamped with orders for the new BMB record... Brendan -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2005 08:33 To: '313' (E-mail) Subject: Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB You should hear the full track, loaded with brummy dark mind funk - brilliant track. Martin On 11 Jan 2005, at 00:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers Martin, The electro cut on the B side is really NICE! Dns. On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: Limited version, 300 http://www.dj-surgeon.com/store/
RE: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
It seems to be fine now ... I just ordered one no problem. Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '313' \(E-mail\) 313@hyperreal.org ine.co.uk cc: Fax to: 11/01/05 11:33 Subject: RE: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB Annoyingly, the Worldpay server is moving at a snail-like pace - I guess it's being swamped with orders for the new BMB record... Brendan -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2005 08:33 To: '313' (E-mail) Subject: Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB You should hear the full track, loaded with brummy dark mind funk - brilliant track. Martin On 11 Jan 2005, at 00:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers Martin, The electro cut on the B side is really NICE! Dns. On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: Limited version, 300 http://www.dj-surgeon.com/store/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
RE: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
Is it 300 in clear vinyl or 300 pressed. Anyone know p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2005 12:08 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB It seems to be fine now ... I just ordered one no problem. Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '313' \(E-mail\) 313@hyperreal.org ine.co.uk cc: Fax to: 11/01/05 11:33 Subject: RE: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB Annoyingly, the Worldpay server is moving at a snail-like pace - I guess it's being swamped with orders for the new BMB record... Brendan -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2005 08:33 To: '313' (E-mail) Subject: Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB You should hear the full track, loaded with brummy dark mind funk - brilliant track. Martin On 11 Jan 2005, at 00:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers Martin, The electro cut on the B side is really NICE! Dns. On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: Limited version, 300 http://www.dj-surgeon.com/store/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
300 clearrest in bog standard On 11 Jan 2005, at 12:10, placid wrote: Is it 300 in clear vinyl or 300 pressed. Anyone know p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2005 12:08 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB It seems to be fine now ... I just ordered one no problem. Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '313' \(E-mail\) 313@hyperreal.org ine.co.uk cc: Fax to: 11/01/05 11:33 Subject: RE: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB Annoyingly, the Worldpay server is moving at a snail-like pace - I guess it's being swamped with orders for the new BMB record... Brendan -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2005 08:33 To: '313' (E-mail) Subject: Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB You should hear the full track, loaded with brummy dark mind funk - brilliant track. Martin On 11 Jan 2005, at 00:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers Martin, The electro cut on the B side is really NICE! Dns. On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: Limited version, 300 http://www.dj-surgeon.com/store/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:17:36 + Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300 clearrest in bog standard Good news since clear vinyl looks nice, but wears out very fast. One of my last year highlights, Ai's Station compilation, has turned into more snack-cracle-pop than music. First time I'm eventually thinking of getting something as a fully priced cd also. Must be a marketing trick! (even though it said that the highs are crisper on clear vinyl due to the missing graphite, which act as a lubricant and thus muffling the sound) k
(313) P2P
No not another discussion of the ethics of it - sod the ethics I'm just going to do it. I've never had file sharing software on my machine before as it's given me kind of security worries. However talking with a couple of you folks recently after I was trying to get hold of Rhythm and Sound livesets I now feel it's risk worth taking (I'm pretty good with backing my machine up) - if it's a risk at all? So before I leap lemming-like off this cliff does anyone have any last words of warning for me? Think I'm going for Soulseek since that's what I mostly hear about on here, so I guess that means it's best for 313 stuff - and hopefully for the wider musical world too? Anybody going to suggest there's a better alternative? If nobody does there are a one or two (=3) specific questions maybe somebody might be kind enough to give me a view on: Do people make 'donations'? Someone told me that this might occasionally be necessary. I gather from the Soulseek site that the version they have to download, 155, is newish, are people using this and is it stable? I also gather XP service pack 2 has given this software (and other P2P s/w also?) a headache (event ID4226 bla bla) which Soulseek recommend fixing with a patch from http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=enurl=4226patch/faq - which you should only use if you know what you're doing. Guess I'll find out whether I know what I'm doing when I do it. Has anyone come across this problem? And if so tried this fix? C'mon folks, confirm the view of those who, on hearing about a forum on Detroit techno, think I bet they talk about loads of nerdy stuff on there.
Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
On 11 Jan 2005, at 12:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:17:36 + Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300 clearrest in bog standard Good news since clear vinyl looks nice, but wears out very fast. Is this true? seen/heard loads of rumours about coloured vinyl - anyone got any solid facts? M
Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:08:48 + Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this true? seen/heard loads of rumours about coloured vinyl - anyone got any solid facts? Not that these are facts, but still worth reading: http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=6178 At least the view is aligned with my collection of clear LP's - especially those whitey ones with many tracks. Unit Moebius' Kuiken on CFET - skips, Dan Curtin on 33rpm - skips, so it's no wonder I try to avoid coloured pressings if black is available. They're nice if you like to decorate :) k
RE: (313) P2P
Hi Francis I've been using SS for some years now and I have to say, it never gave me any problems. It is a bit of a resource hog though from time 2 time. It's handy if you want to check out new music before ordering it online without knowing what it is you're buying... (well thats what I use it for, mainly) Donations give you download privileges for 30 days, wich means if you do a search and you want to download one of the results, you'll end up on top of the (if any) queue. (that is, if no one else with privileges is in that queue) Furthermore, you can make a userlist and say if you wanna share with the world, or just with ppl in that list. Handy to prevent leeches from grabbing all your shared stuff. Works excellent for me, it's free, never any security issues (running XP pro so enough issues there) so I'd just say give it a try. If you want to add me to your SLSK userlist - my UN is pascal1971. Got some nice sets to share! Cheers Pascal. Hometaping is killing music - support your local recordstore! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 11 januari 2005 14:04 Aan: '313' Onderwerp: (313) P2P No not another discussion of the ethics of it - sod the ethics I'm just going to do it. I've never had file sharing software on my machine before as it's given me kind of security worries. However talking with a couple of you folks recently after I was trying to get hold of Rhythm and Sound livesets I now feel it's risk worth taking (I'm pretty good with backing my machine up) - if it's a risk at all? So before I leap lemming-like off this cliff does anyone have any last words of warning for me? Think I'm going for Soulseek since that's what I mostly hear about on here, so I guess that means it's best for 313 stuff - and hopefully for the wider musical world too? Anybody going to suggest there's a better alternative? If nobody does there are a one or two (=3) specific questions maybe somebody might be kind enough to give me a view on: Do people make 'donations'? Someone told me that this might occasionally be necessary. I gather from the Soulseek site that the version they have to download, 155, is newish, are people using this and is it stable? I also gather XP service pack 2 has given this software (and other P2P s/w also?) a headache (event ID4226 bla bla) which Soulseek recommend fixing with a patch from http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=enurl=4226patch/faq - which you should only use if you know what you're doing. Guess I'll find out whether I know what I'm doing when I do it. Has anyone come across this problem? And if so tried this fix? C'mon folks, confirm the view of those who, on hearing about a forum on Detroit techno, think I bet they talk about loads of nerdy stuff on there.
(313) M_nus Showcase in NYC friday
Friday January 14 ***THE BUNKER*** DOWNSTAIRS: Clark Warner (M_nus | Detroit) Pheek (M_nus, Contexterrior | Montreal) live pa Hearthrob (M_nus, Contexterrior | NYC) live pa Clark Warner is an old friend of the Bunker. He used to play at our Undercity parties at Halcyon on Sunday afternoons after many Saturday night opening / sideroom gigs with Richie Hawtin in larger venues. He is one of the best and most interesting chillout DJs we've heard, and we're psyched to have him start us off properly tonight. http://www.m-nus.com/ Heartthrob has been making unreleased secret weapons for many of the best minimal techno DJs in the world. He will finally be releasing something on wax for the rest of us in the near future, with a split 12 with Pheek on Contexterrior and a track on the new M_nus compilation. http://www.contexterrior.com/ Pheek has been making a name for himself with quirky minimal techno releases on netlabels like Thinner, Epsilonlabs, and Clever Music. Tonight marks his debut performance in NYC. http://www.pheek.com/pheek/index.ph plus Resident DJ: kleverVice, Spinoza, Movement visuals: Chris Jordan Fridays at Tonic/subTonic 107 Norfolk Street (212)358-7501 $5, 21+, 9p-4a more info, upcoming guests, heavy rotation - http://www.klever.org/thebunkernyc UPCOMING SHOWS: 2/11: Thomas Fehlmann (Plug Research, The Orb, Kompakt | Berlin) live Gudrun Gut (Monika Enterprise Berlin)
Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
From the words of industry legend ron Murphy, black vinyl is always used time and again, but coloured or clear vinyl is usually the most pure, as when you scrape off the last bits, it goes into the glob of black and whatever else. He told me that common practice is also to have the black vinyl at a lower waulity level, because it CAN be, but clear or coloured vinyl has to be at a certain purity level just to be clear or coloured. In other words, most black vinyl is of a lower level, but it doesn't HAVE to be. Because of the higher purity level, though, I do believe that the vinyl is a bit softer, but that's why it plays better (and purportedly does wear faster, but can be avoided with good weighting, etc)... dns. On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: On 11 Jan 2005, at 12:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:17:36 + Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300 clearrest in bog standard Good news since clear vinyl looks nice, but wears out very fast. Is this true? seen/heard loads of rumours about coloured vinyl - anyone got any solid facts? M
Re: (313) Father Loves Us _BMB
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: On 11 Jan 2005, at 12:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:17:36 + Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300 clearrest in bog standard Good news since clear vinyl looks nice, but wears out very fast. Is this true? seen/heard loads of rumours about coloured vinyl - anyone got any solid facts? Friend of mine told me about this new vinyl like substance which isn't vinyl and which doesn't last as long as vinyl. I have one compilation from AI records called Station (http://www.angryape.com/reviews/2004/03/various-station) -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
(313) [London] next Soundslike Werk, 05/12 - early heads up
a date for the diary for all London folks (or those visiting): the next Soundslike Werk, bought you to by the good people of Werk Discs and Accidental Records, will take place on Saturday March 5. once again, we will not be announcing the line-up or the venue until the day of the party. our last party, on December 4, 2004, featured: Matthew Herbert, Four-Tet, Brooks, Martin from Rubadub/69, Actress (live) and the Baked Goods DJs - as well as the residents. that should give you some idea what to expect from us in March. the party will take place in a 3-room venue in south central London (zone 1) between 10pm-6am; last entry is 1am. there are only 300 tickets available, which must be bought in advance - they cost £10 each. secure yours by email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.magicandaccident.com www.werk-it.com
Re: (313) P2P
Well . I'm on a Mac . and I've tried several different types of programs. mostly use . acquisition . now but find it similar to shopping at K-mart music, you can get anything obvious easy . and everything else they have never heard of . . I have tried SS for mac a couple of different ways but spend more time trying to work it' than use it final verdict . it's easy enough to find original free music buy paying attention or a small fee to the artists, so trying to get what you want buy sifting through a 1000 crap titles is just like the old days of the record shopping ' eh More interested in the broader practical uses of programs like carracho hotline ' thats what the microsound kids natter about anyway sweet .simon C'mon folks, confirm the view of those who, on hearing about a forum on Detroit techno, think I bet they talk about loads of nerdy stuff on there.
Re: (313) Monolake in NYC Thursday
robert will also be at the tangent on saturday night in detroit 821 milwaukee I think. I think its a paxahau event, so check www.paxahau.com for more details -Joe - Original Message - From: Bryan Kasenic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: (313) Monolake in NYC Thursday Thursday January 13 The Bunker presents Monolake (Chain Reaction, Imbalance Computer Music | Berlin) live pa Monolake will have a new album out on his own Imbalance Computer Music label this summer. This album is a return to more dancefloor oriented material, and his new live set will reflect this. We have been huge Monolake fans ever since they (used to be a duo, now solo) were releasing music for the infamous Chain Reaction label. In addition to making some of the best electronic music of the past decade, Monolake has also worked on programming some of the best music software, including Max/MSP and the ubiquitous Ableton Live. Tonic 107 Norfolk Street (between Rivington and Delancey) midnight show $10 (no advance tix) 16+ www.klever.org/thebunkernyc
(313) cylob in detroit this sunday
at forans. have fun, I cant stand that place as a venue (just my opinion, no flames) -Joe
Re: (313) Monolake in NYC Thursday
oh, and pheek and joe claussel (sp?) sorry for the omission - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bryan Kasenic [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: Re: (313) Monolake in NYC Thursday robert will also be at the tangent on saturday night in detroit 821 milwaukee I think. I think its a paxahau event, so check www.paxahau.com for more details -Joe - Original Message - From: Bryan Kasenic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: (313) Monolake in NYC Thursday Thursday January 13 The Bunker presents Monolake (Chain Reaction, Imbalance Computer Music | Berlin) live pa Monolake will have a new album out on his own Imbalance Computer Music label this summer. This album is a return to more dancefloor oriented material, and his new live set will reflect this. We have been huge Monolake fans ever since they (used to be a duo, now solo) were releasing music for the infamous Chain Reaction label. In addition to making some of the best electronic music of the past decade, Monolake has also worked on programming some of the best music software, including Max/MSP and the ubiquitous Ableton Live. Tonic 107 Norfolk Street (between Rivington and Delancey) midnight show $10 (no advance tix) 16+ www.klever.org/thebunkernyc
