Re: (313) New mix for download
-- Original Message -- From: Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] dood. this is nice. does he drop that hot new henrik schwarz? how about some matt dear? tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Alton Miller - Clouds Are Gone (Henrik Schwarz Remixes)
On May 3, 2005, at 11:23 AM, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: this record is totally going to get me playing alot more house again! i miss those days, but rarely do i hear house that doesnt sound regurgitated to me. what am i gonna do, play nothing but KDJ records all the time? I totally know what you mean... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) new stuff
Philip wrote: freedom soundz (alex attias) 'hero / journey' (goya neroli promo) don't know which is which, one is deep groovy vaguely sci-fi house (well you know what I mean - all those funny noises that you find in the techier broken beat stuff) *kind* of similar in feel to alex's previous track 'distant planet'. the flip is a bit pointless. I've got a couple of those neroli/goya promos now, and the flip always feel a bit like that :-\
Re: (313) New mix for download
Great Mix Derek! lovely track selection and flawless mixing..enjoying it now as i type :) and Tom, yes there is some Mathew Jonson :P fab. - Original Message - From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: (313) New mix for download This is a set I did in Milwaukee last Thursday night. Im not going to have a link to it on the actual plaslaiko.net page i dont think, but feel free to share the mix or this link with anyone or anyplace you might think would enjoy it. Sorry about the low bitrate, but better than nothing i suppose! http://www.plaslaiko.net/Derek_Plaslaiko-4_28_05-Club3-Milwaukee.mp3 New studio mix very very soon. 2 full years is far too long, me thinks! enjoy! derek.
Re: (313) New mix for download
-- Original Message -- From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Tom, yes there is some Mathew Jonson :P hehehehe ;) tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Mos Def added to Fuse-in line-up
If you want to see how good Mos Def's acting skills are you should see the The Woodsman. MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To h.com313@hyperreal.org cc 05/04/05 09:20 AM Subject Re: (313) Mos Def added to Fuse-in Please respond to line-up [EMAIL PROTECTED] h.com -- Original Message -- From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] it's already been on the screen tho tom. (ok small screen but you get the drift) yeah, i always avoided seeing that because i didnt wanna ruin my perception of the books, which ive read probably 10 times each or more. i decided i couldnt avoid this though so i just went the day it came out. and it was good the first time :) maybe now ill borrow it to check it out. it's possible this film isnt aimed at this side of the atlantic i dont know. i think the humor is still decidedly very british. the EFX are top notch, and they didnt try to turn it into an action film or something else that it isnt. i really was concerned about it up until i learned they cast mos def as ford prefect because i thought he would be an excellent choice, and he was. i think the people involved really understood the book and all the added bits are in line with that type of humor. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Mos Def added to Fuse-in line-up
Or even better, try Something The Lord Made. He was nominated for a Golden Globe for that movie. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mos Def added to Fuse-in line-up If you want to see how good Mos Def's acting skills are you should see the The Woodsman. MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To h.com313@hyperreal.org cc 05/04/05 09:20 AM Subject Re: (313) Mos Def added to Fuse-in Please respond to line-up [EMAIL PROTECTED] h.com -- Original Message -- From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] it's already been on the screen tho tom. (ok small screen but you get the drift) yeah, i always avoided seeing that because i didnt wanna ruin my perception of the books, which ive read probably 10 times each or more. i decided i couldnt avoid this though so i just went the day it came out. and it was good the first time :) maybe now ill borrow it to check it out. it's possible this film isnt aimed at this side of the atlantic i dont know. i think the humor is still decidedly very british. the EFX are top notch, and they didnt try to turn it into an action film or something else that it isnt. i really was concerned about it up until i learned they cast mos def as ford prefect because i thought he would be an excellent choice, and he was. i think the people involved really understood the book and all the added bits are in line with that type of humor. tom andythepooh.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005
(313) Merry Christmas
I'm rockin' out to Mr.Plaslalala's Merry Christmas mix http://www.plaslaiko.net/me/derek_plaslaiko_-_merry_christmas.mp3 rockout... d Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
(313) good rare Detroit Chicago on offer
if your still looking for some of the classics try here http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmarniQ2ebopp Retroactive, Interface, Metroplex, Art of Dance, Buzz, Sonar 123, Model 500, Z Factor, Magic Feet original on Westbrook, Jesse Saunders, Risque III, Farley, Gherkin etc etc thanks armin
(313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
just a reminder, dont forget! www.paxahau.com -Joe
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
ok, i dont want to kill anyone's enthusiasm but i saw them here last week in rome and was not impressed one bit. i was expecting autechre to fully bust out with their trademark crunchy poly-rhythms but instead they tried to make it a more danceable event incorporating a stronger kick drum and an almost 4/4 beat. the result was quite boring and not very remarkable at all. snd - well snd is more glitchy laptop fare, and that can be more of a hit and miss type of thing, especially in a venue with tons of people. in this case the sound system wasn't sounding too good and they didnt sound too inspired. pretty middle of the road type of sound, nowhere near as good as their Make Cassette release from a while back. rob hall was more interesting since he was djing therefore able to read the crowd more and make it all more enjoyable. i enjoyed him playing early 90s uk happy hardcore (but thats because im a nostalgic old fart). so, it had a lot to do with the venue since most of it would have been much better in a smaller lounge situation and to tell the truth the sound system sucked, but objectively speaking autechre really let me down. it was a non-outstanding set. anyway, i went with the notion that i was going to walk away disappointed, but i went anyway.so that would be my advice fab. - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:31 PM Subject: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj) just a reminder, dont forget! www.paxahau.com -Joe
(313) mix WNUR 15 April 2005 - This Dream Is Real
Clinically Inclined 15 April 2005 Fridays 9:30pm - 12:30am, 89.3 FM WNUR Chicago http://SonicSunset.com Part 1: Setting a mood of left-field funkiness from all corners of emerging club music. From Francois K's collaborative Snake Charmer EP to Italo by Memory Control One and weirdo French comp-u-pop from Le Club. Deep new slow-burner this week from JuJu Jordash in Amsterdam via Detroit's abstract house label Psychostasia, and a dark classic from L.B. Bad. Part 2: electronic body music recovered from video from early 80s pioneers liaisons dangereuses blends with old and new sounds from chicago and detroit, followed by a bit of crisp mid-90s housed-up techno, including a 1993 gem from st. germain. Part 1 Matt MacQueen Jah Wobble, The Edge, Holger Czukay - Hold On To Your Dreams - Snake Charmer EP (Island) Ministry - Work For Love - Dub version (Arista) Memory Control One - Basic (Crash) Le Club - Un Fait Divers Et Rien De Plus (Roulette) Carl Williams - Can't Get Away (From Your Love) [Special Dub] - (Vanguard) Eurofunk - Manshortage (Unclassics) Magazine 60 - Don Quichotte (Many) Carl Finlow - Broken Mirror (Playhouse) Omar S - Give It To Me - 003 (Fxhe) Juju and Jordash - Hush [feat. Chris Corstens] - The Hush EP (Psychostasia) Aroy Dee - Glow (MOS) Phenomyna - Black Rain - Stasis / Past Movements (Peacefrog) Fingers Inc. - A Path (DJ International) L.B. Bad - This Dream Is Real (It's Not A Dream) - (La Rhon) Cultural Vibe - Ma Foom Bey (Easy Street) Visual - Somehow, Someway (Ram's Horn) Mascara - Baja (Oh My!) Dharma - Plastic Doll (boot) Raiders of the Lost Arp - Miles - 4 (Nature) Matzo Pauli - untitled (Viewlexx) Francesco - Salvation 2nd - Frenga (Pigna) Trans X - Living On Video (Illusion) Part 2 Dave Siska liaisons dangereuses - video track (d.i.r.t.y.) two of a kind - happiness (dub) (housetime) juan atkins - serene - the future sound ep (ulr) heiroglyphic being - d.o.s. - conversation in a analog dialect (klang) kim rapatti - a1 - mood ep (plug research) bovil - b to h1 - contour ep (meanwhile) glory b - star - star ep (grow!) jerome vs sterac - trillipone (100% pure) st. germain - the first time - from detroit to st. germain (f comm) john tejada + arian leviste - throwback - where circles begin (moods grooves) justin berkovi - the meanwhile - the search for home (nightrax) aril brikha - on and on (transmat) Chicago hometown hype dept... discerning low-key events for local headz: -- Matt is playing the Wake Up! night at Subterranean w/ Carlos Souffront (WCBN/Ann Arbor, DEMF) and awesome local Kate Simko (Detalles, Traum). Sunday May 8th. 2011 W North Ave. $3. http://chi.flavorpill.net/current.jsp#wakeup -- Dave Matt return to Danny's Tavern for another joint Clinically Inclined showcase. 1951 W Dickens, Monday May 9th. Free, come out and say hello! Archives at http://SonicSunset.com --- Clinically Inclined is mixed live on air, 89.3 FM in Chicago every Friday night.
(313) Indio ep Transmat when ???
I tihnk that a time span of 4 years between promo and as yet still unreleasaed is a bit much. Any one has a clue as to what the hold up is. p
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
rob hall was more interesting since he was djing therefore able to read the crowd more and make it all more enjoyable. i enjoyed him playing early 90s uk happy hardcore You know, this is what bugs me about this stuff in general. I hate that snotty 'idm' attitude, that if you don't like the music, it's just flying over your head, or you aren't sophisticated or intelligent enough to like it, you don't 'get it'. then you get their dj playing happy hardcore. just so I know, there isn't anything good or worth bothering with about happy hardcore is there? or was I missing something? I was around and buying records at the height of happy hardcore, and hardcore I guess before it came 'jungle' or 'db'. didn't get it then, don't get it now. Best Regards, Confused, from Manchester. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
On May 5, 2005, at 8:59 AM, fab. wrote: ok, i dont want to kill anyone's enthusiasm but i saw them here last week in rome and was not impressed one bit. i was expecting autechre to fully bust out with their trademark crunchy poly-rhythms but instead they tried to make it a more danceable event incorporating a stronger kick drum and an almost 4/4 beat. the result was quite boring and not very remarkable at all. funny, because every time they do a 'complicated' set people complain that it's not dancey enough.
Re: (313) Indio ep Transmat when ???
not enough golf cart donations at movement last year. At 12:08 PM 5/5/2005, Placid wrote: I tihnk that a time span of 4 years between promo and as yet still unreleasaed is a bit much. Any one has a clue as to what the hold up is. p -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
ugh. makes me feel sad P really. and, as I get older, far from understanding things better, some stuff just confuses me even more. *sigh* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
FW: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
funny, because every time they do a 'complicated' set people complain that it's not dancey enough. and also because when I saw them 2 weeks ago they did a 'complicated' set (and it wasn't dancey enough!) or not funny really because although sometimes I've seen them and loved them and other times not been as impressed they've always been different which I think is a pretty good thing. Rob Hall must be mixing it up too as he played lovely deep (if sometimes wacky) electronic vibes at that gig - personally I'd have been p***ed off if I heard happy hardcore
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
On May 5, 2005, at 11:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rob hall was more interesting since he was djing therefore able to read the crowd more and make it all more enjoyable. i enjoyed him playing early 90s uk happy hardcore You know, this is what bugs me about this stuff in general. I hate that snotty 'idm' attitude, that if you don't like the music, it's just flying over your head, or you aren't sophisticated or intelligent enough to like it, you don't 'get it'. then you get their dj playing happy hardcore. i don't know who rob hall is and didn't see the event, but i get your observation, so i'll comment on your sentiment in the abstract: it's a perfect compliment to shut-in IDM'ers mentality... that you have so many layers of defensiveness build up around your music, you have to coat the outside layer with sarcasm and irony so nobody thinks you actually GIVE A SH*T about ANYTHING... the perception that everything must be a piss take or an inside joke to the point of obnoxiousness. it's also what sort of turned me off about later-era Richard James, a career made out of more and more elaborate music pranks, but i digress... i like people not taking things so seriously, :) sure,, but i hate when that's always used as a prop because god forbid, anyone be earnest about music... playing happy hardcore to a detroit techno crowd is about as relevant as playing Polka or Country Western... why not just do that then, make your bad joke, and let the next DJ go on. rowr! (and this is coming from someone with a fairly decent 'idm' collection in the old sense of the words... the warp/b12/skam/black dog/etc. stuff) -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
Maybe Rob Hall actually quite likes Happy Hardcore? I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that you don't (don't remember seeing any in your playlists at least), but that doesn't mean that others don't. I'm not a fan myself, but I can see why others might like it. It was a step in the evolution of electronic music after all. D. P.S. I'm listening to the Riot EP at the moment and it's not a million miles from some of the later UK hardcore/rave... At 11:27 am -0500 5/5/05, Matt MacQueen wrote: On May 5, 2005, at 11:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rob hall was more interesting since he was djing therefore able to read the crowd more and make it all more enjoyable. i enjoyed him playing early 90s uk happy hardcore You know, this is what bugs me about this stuff in general. I hate that snotty 'idm' attitude, that if you don't like the music, it's just flying over your head, or you aren't sophisticated or intelligent enough to like it, you don't 'get it'. then you get their dj playing happy hardcore. i don't know who rob hall is and didn't see the event, but i get your observation, so i'll comment on your sentiment in the abstract: it's a perfect compliment to shut-in IDM'ers mentality... that you have so many layers of defensiveness build up around your music, you have to coat the outside layer with sarcasm and irony so nobody thinks you actually GIVE A SH*T about ANYTHING... the perception that everything must be a piss take or an inside joke to the point of obnoxiousness. it's also what sort of turned me off about later-era Richard James, a career made out of more and more elaborate music pranks, but i digress... i like people not taking things so seriously, :) sure,, but i hate when that's always used as a prop because god forbid, anyone be earnest about music... playing happy hardcore to a detroit techno crowd is about as relevant as playing Polka or Country Western... why not just do that then, make your bad joke, and let the next DJ go on. rowr! (and this is coming from someone with a fairly decent 'idm' collection in the old sense of the words... the warp/b12/skam/black dog/etc. stuff) -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe Rob Hall actually quite likes Happy Hardcore? I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that you don't (don't remember seeing any in your playlists at least), but that doesn't mean that others don't. you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
I hate to admit it, but he's right... At 1:15 pm -0400 5/5/05, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
Maybe Rob Hall actually quite likes Happy Hardcore? Yeah, I think he does. I mean, the first skams were hardcore records I guess. I'm not a fan myself, but I can see why others might like it. Yes, of course, and of course there's nothing wrong with that. In a way, I'm being a musical snob, but I'm just kinda trying to say that I see enough musical snobbery from people and it gets on my wick when the ultimate musical snobbery people then come out playing things like happy hardcore, then STILL remain snobbish towards others. I'm not singling out Rob Hall by the way at all here, more, well, it's a long story, but, I know enough 'IDM' heads. Most of them musical snobs.. More so than any other people who will be into other types of music. I even like 'idm' as Matt says, I have old black dogs, ART, you know, all that I just don't understand the attitude that goes with it. *he says, being snobbish about music himself* jesus, I don't even know what I'm trying to say really. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. errr i disagree but can't be arsed to go into how good the acid explosion of 88 was p andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
At 01:15 PM 5/5/2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. so was he playing this, or more recent candy-drug happycore or trancecore or freeform or whatever it is? (ughh) -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
my gripe with idm and the often-associated attitudes is that with IDM it seems technique trumps product. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj) Maybe Rob Hall actually quite likes Happy Hardcore? Yeah, I think he does. I mean, the first skams were hardcore records I guess. I'm not a fan myself, but I can see why others might like it. Yes, of course, and of course there's nothing wrong with that. In a way, I'm being a musical snob, but I'm just kinda trying to say that I see enough musical snobbery from people and it gets on my wick when the ultimate musical snobbery people then come out playing things like happy hardcore, then STILL remain snobbish towards others. I'm not singling out Rob Hall by the way at all here, more, well, it's a long story, but, I know enough 'IDM' heads. Most of them musical snobs.. More so than any other people who will be into other types of music. I even like 'idm' as Matt says, I have old black dogs, ART, you know, all that I just don't understand the attitude that goes with it. *he says, being snobbish about music himself* jesus, I don't even know what I'm trying to say really. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
might I add that rob halls detroit appearance is being labeled as a GESCOM set? maybe that means something to someone else. I was thinking he would be playing gescom-style tracks. im more excited about SND than autechre, I mix a lot of SND into regular (and on-topic) techno tracks when I DJ - Original Message - From: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj) At 01:15 PM 5/5/2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. so was he playing this, or more recent candy-drug happycore or trancecore or freeform or whatever it is? (ughh) -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + rob hall(dj)
P.S. I'm listening to the Riot EP at the moment and it's not a million miles from some of the later UK hardcore/rave... oh yeah, forgot to say! yeah, I can't stand all that old ravy UR. Never liked it, never will. I was always a Jupiter Jazz kinda guy, not a seawolf/riot ep man. thats why I fell in love with the music from detroit. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. I think the 'energy' comment is very much a subjective thing Tom. i.e. you think it is, I don't. but, you're confusing matters. I'm talking about music from 1991 or so. which then evolved into other things. this music was HUGE here as a youth culture thing, you couldn't escape it. Dan Butler and Gary will tell you - where I was living at the time, it was slap bang in the middle of all this, and it was far far larger than any musical sub genre you get today. i.e. 'the garage' thing or whatever. at school, virtually the entire year used to go to 'raves' where they played this music, it was post acid house explosion etc, and the music was changing, it wasn't that US sound any more, it was home grown. it wasn't so mixed up either, yeah, there was still a mix of dance musics, but the focus became narrower from that point onwards. yeah jungle and hardcore is energetic - but so obviously so - thats why it got so popular, it's hardly subtle music is it tom? the thickest cultural dullard going could work out that this was energetic music. there was no deep side to it. thats why it got so universally popular so quick. but anyway, I dunno what I'm rambling on about so much. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
On May 5, 2005, at 12:20 PM, /0 wrote: might I add that rob halls detroit appearance is being labeled as a GESCOM set? wait, you mean GESCOM doesn't equal kids with pacifiers, candy necklaces, inflatable huge white mickey-mouse gloves, rave glow whistles, chipmunk vocal samples and cartoon themes in every track? Maybe someone needs post a mix of the GOOD happy hardcore, cause that's all i remember what I saw/heard and I was absolutely shocked (and maybe this is just my US-outlook bias, UK'ers seem to have connected with it more?) that it lasted as long as it did... Admittedly, i guess i ran screaming the opposite direction and never looked back. I thought it was utterly disposable, and embarrassing distant retarded cousin to other forms of electronic music at the time. It sounds like there's some people on here that think it's legit... so school me. PS - come to think of it, my favorite skam record is probably the first GESCOM EP one with 'cicada' on it... time to dig that out again and atone for my happy hardcore resistance? maybe if you play it backwards at 45 it's hardcore ;) -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
At 01:28 PM 5/5/2005, Matt MacQueen wrote: Maybe someone needs post a mix of the GOOD happy hardcore, cause that's all i remember what I saw/heard and I was absolutely shocked (and maybe this is just my US-outlook bias, UK'ers seem to have connected with it more?) that it lasted as long as it did... Admittedly, i guess i ran screaming the opposite direction and never looked back. I thought it was utterly disposable, and embarrassing distant retarded cousin to other forms of electronic music at the time. US kids aren't biased against happy hardcore. Unfortunately we booked a happy hardcore DJ (DJ CANDY KID) at our last event, and I had to work the door during his set. Ugh. Now if all happy hardcore DJs had names like DJ Muppetfcker we'd be all set. -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
so was he playing this, or more recent candy-drug happycore or trancecore or freeform or whatever it is? (ughh) -- just the stuff you would expect from 91-92he only played 3-4 tracks btw, no big deal, but better than a heartless set, whatever the genre, and that is what the evening felt like fab.
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
maybe that means something to someone else. I was thinking he would be playing gescom-style tracks. he did; sorry i wasnt too clear on that it was good vaguely danceable idm of the skam/gescom variety, with the 3-4 hardcore tracks
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
yeah i cant resist. it figures. BUT, I am not so closed minded that I rule out everything Matt said. If this music that I consider to be an utter waste of electricity has some kind of validity, then show me. Ill listen. derek. On Thu, 5 May 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] errr i disagree but can't be arsed to go into how good the acid explosion of 88 was you dont have to explain. i love me some acid (prolly not as much as you though ;) but man, those years for that music are like pure adrenaline for me. whether or not you think its the ultimate in instant energy, you have to agree that it had that thing that great dance music has before it burns out. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah i cant resist. it figures. BUT, I am not so closed minded that I rule out everything Matt said. If this music that I consider to be an utter waste of electricity has some kind of validity, then show me. Ill listen. all i really have to say is that some people really mean it when they say they listen to all kinds of music. you can look down on it all you want, its not my job to make you understand it. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) +robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:15 PM 5/5/2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. so was he playing this, or more recent candy-drug happycore or trancecore or freeform or whatever it is? (ughh) im pretty sure thats what i read. the recent stuff (post 96) is just utter nonsense. i cant even imagine how the music evolved into that. i guess it coincided with the super darkening of jungle for the ultimate in yin yang hardcore music. oh well. this is why old records are good ;) tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
its not your job to be an asshxle either but you seem intent on taking up that cause from time to time. but dont we all :) seriously, post some artist and track names, I'd like to check it out too -Joe - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj) -- Original Message -- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah i cant resist. it figures. BUT, I am not so closed minded that I rule out everything Matt said. If this music that I consider to be an utter waste of electricity has some kind of validity, then show me. Ill listen. all i really have to say is that some people really mean it when they say they listen to all kinds of music. you can look down on it all you want, its not my job to make you understand it. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but, you're confusing matters. I'm talking about music from 1991 or so. which then evolved into other things. this music was HUGE here as a youth culture thing, you couldn't escape it. i like some of the 91-92 era stuff, but thats more the general hardcore stuff in my mind. when you start calling it happy hardcore or darkside or jungle tekno, youre talking about distinctly different records. my opinion on the golden years of that sound is that they were 93-95. both the light and dark sides made lots of good stuff in there. at school, virtually the entire year used to go to 'raves' where they played this music, it was post acid house explosion etc, and the music was changing, it wasn't that US sound any more, it was home grown. it wasn't so mixed up either, yeah, there was still a mix of dance musics, but the focus became narrower from that point onwards. thats what eventually kills all subgenres of dance music it seems, the hyper specialization. yeah jungle and hardcore is energetic - but so obviously so - thats why it got so popular, it's hardly subtle music is it tom? the thickest cultural dullard going could work out that this was energetic music. there was no deep side to it. thats why it got so universally popular so quick. huh? ltj bukem's demon seed came out in 1991. if you think the early good looking stuff isnt deep, we're fighting ;) seriously, some of my favorite records from that time are drenched in detroit-y atmospheres, its both deep and insanely energetic at the same time. think early goldie, guy called gerald (28 gun badboy is hardcore, that was 92), 4 hero, etc. these are musical geniuses right up there with almost anyone detroit has produced. im sure the pop side of all that nonsense was annoying, and im glad i never had to deal with that or maybe id be missing out on all that great music that was being made. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
- Original Message -- From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] its not your job to be an asshxle either but you seem intent on taking up that cause from time to time. but dont we all :) seriously, post some artist and track names, I'd like to check it out too guy called gerald 28 gun badboy metalheadz terminator manix feels real good (licensed to KMS for some 313 relevance BTW) ltj bukem demon's theme ltj bukem music rufige kru darkrider tek 9 a london sumting those are all 91-early 93 or so and should be really simple to find. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
a couple more: criminal minds baptised by dub rood project thunder tom -- Original Message -- From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:39:18 -0400 its not your job to be an asshxle either but you seem intent on taking up that cause from time to time. but dont we all :) seriously, post some artist and track names, I'd like to check it out too -Joe - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj) -- Original Message -- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah i cant resist. it figures. BUT, I am not so closed minded that I rule out everything Matt said. If this music that I consider to be an utter waste of electricity has some kind of validity, then show me. Ill listen. all i really have to say is that some people really mean it when they say they listen to all kinds of music. you can look down on it all you want, its not my job to make you understand it. tom andythepooh.com andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
alex, that was basically what i lived through..i was in the uk then (oxofrd) and it was massive, it seemed that that was the only sort of music available to dance all night to. it was also my first exprience with going to proper undeground rave clubs and free parties (think spiral tribe), taking drugs and i was a student far from home. before then i had only been exposed to different types of house music, thanks to loryD, in a under-18s saturday afternoon club populated by rome's rich kids. today, with the sort of musical background i hav elived through, i actually think hardcore is more of a joke than anything else. i even tried downloading some altern8 to see if i could still get into it, but its pointless. like i said in my original post, i enjoyed rob hall for the novelty nostalgia effect, nothing more nothing less fab. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj) you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. I think the 'energy' comment is very much a subjective thing Tom. i.e. you think it is, I don't. but, you're confusing matters. I'm talking about music from 1991 or so. which then evolved into other things. this music was HUGE here as a youth culture thing, you couldn't escape it. Dan Butler and Gary will tell you - where I was living at the time, it was slap bang in the middle of all this, and it was far far larger than any musical sub genre you get today. i.e. 'the garage' thing or whatever. at school, virtually the entire year used to go to 'raves' where they played this music, it was post acid house explosion etc, and the music was changing, it wasn't that US sound any more, it was home grown. it wasn't so mixed up either, yeah, there was still a mix of dance musics, but the focus became narrower from that point onwards. yeah jungle and hardcore is energetic - but so obviously so - thats why it got so popular, it's hardly subtle music is it tom? the thickest cultural dullard going could work out that this was energetic music. there was no deep side to it. thats why it got so universally popular so quick. but anyway, I dunno what I'm rambling on about so much. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i really have to say is that some people really mean it when they say they listen to all kinds of music. you can look down on it all you want, its not my job to make you understand it. whatever. youre mr i know all about music before you did. if youre going to dismiss genres like that, you should be able to cite tracks and why they were terrible. saying oh it sucks, please tell me why i should think otherwise isnt sh*t. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
please dont forward priv emails back to the list so you have an audience when you want to talk smack to someone - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj) -- Original Message -- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i really have to say is that some people really mean it when they say they listen to all kinds of music. you can look down on it all you want, its not my job to make you understand it. whatever. youre mr i know all about music before you did. if youre going to dismiss genres like that, you should be able to cite tracks and why they were terrible. saying oh it sucks, please tell me why i should think otherwise isnt sh*t. tom andythepooh.com
(313) paging JASON BRUNTON
Hi Jason Could you get in touch as soon as poss, it's quite urgent... Thanks Dan (apologies to everyone else)
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
i dont rememeber my reply to you going public. do you REALLY think everyone on this lists wants to sit through yet another one of our p*ssing contests? derek. On Thu, 5 May 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i really have to say is that some people really mean it when they say they listen to all kinds of music. you can look down on it all you want, its not my job to make you understand it. whatever. youre mr i know all about music before you did. if youre going to dismiss genres like that, you should be able to cite tracks and why they were terrible. saying oh it sucks, please tell me why i should think otherwise isnt sh*t. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] please dont forward priv emails back to the list so you have an audience when you want to talk smack to someone my bad, i didnt even notice. i have my filters set up to catch the 313 in the to field so when someone hits reply all i get the email in my inbox. plus it wasnt anything private sounding. sorry. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] i dont rememeber my reply to you going public. do you REALLY think everyone on this lists wants to sit through yet another one of our p*ssing contests? again, sorry about that. its you reply all people that kill me with screwing my filters all up. this appeared in my inbox with my name in the to field, identical to the other one. i hit reply all to check to see if 313 popped up as well, and it did. but hey, you started it anyway. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
I was acctually trying to extend an olive branch but apparently all you wanted to do was flex, as per usual. For the record, I know about 6 of the tracks you mentioned, and would never EVER classify them as happy hardcore. Had you mentioned Cookin Up Your Brains i might have been able to accept that one as where you were coming from. But your list has lost me even more. Of COURSE that stuff is great! I just wouldnt call it happy hardcore. derek. On Thu, 5 May 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] i dont rememeber my reply to you going public. do you REALLY think everyone on this lists wants to sit through yet another one of our p*ssing contests? again, sorry about that. its you reply all people that kill me with screwing my filters all up. this appeared in my inbox with my name in the to field, identical to the other one. i hit reply all to check to see if 313 popped up as well, and it did. but hey, you started it anyway. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Indio ep Transmat when ???
At 12:08 PM 5/5/2005, Placid wrote: I tihnk that a time span of 4 years between promo and as yet still unreleasaed is a bit much. Any one has a clue as to what the hold up is. p that project has Gone Pearshaped.
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
sorry but, Bukem (BUKEM??), Metalheadz, Gerald, Rufige Kru... not happy hardcore. like, not at all. On May 5, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: - Original Message -- From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] its not your job to be an asshxle either but you seem intent on taking up that cause from time to time. but dont we all :) seriously, post some artist and track names, I'd like to check it out too guy called gerald 28 gun badboy metalheadz terminator manix feels real good (licensed to KMS for some 313 relevance BTW) ltj bukem demon's theme ltj bukem music rufige kru darkrider tek 9 a london sumting those are all 91-early 93 or so and should be really simple to find. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was acctually trying to extend an olive branch but apparently all you wanted to do was flex, as per usual. thats certainly not how i interpret whatever but ill take your word for it and chill out. For the record, I know about 6 of the tracks you mentioned, and would never EVER classify them as happy hardcore. Had you mentioned Cookin Up Your Brains i might have been able to accept that one as where you were coming from. But your list has lost me even more. Of COURSE that stuff is great! I just wouldnt call it happy hardcore. no, i was just talking about jungle and hardcore together. certainly more of that leaned towards the darkside stuff, but some was just straight hardcore. i was speaking in total of that bit of the continuum of music from that era. it wasnt all altern8 and smart e's was my point ;) tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
-- Original Message -- From: Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] sorry but, Bukem (BUKEM??), Metalheadz, Gerald, Rufige Kru... not happy hardcore. like, not at all. argh, again i was looking at the early bit of hardcore for music with depth etc. obviously by my record collection you can tell i preferred the darkside to the happy stuff, but it was all still pretty fun music. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Dan Butler and Gary will tell you - where I was living at the time, it was slap bang in the middle of all this, and it was far far larger than any musical sub genre you get today. i.e. 'the garage' thing or whatever. Without a doubt the music from 88-91 had a bigger impact than any of the sub genres that followed, as Alex mentioned that initial wave even reached us here in the backwaters of the home counties. If you asked an 18 year old now, they might disagree with me and claim (whatever kids listen to now) was bigger and more important. Much of this may be because there weren't so many sub-genres back then, and because it was fairly new the media were sensationalising things which created an even bigger interest. From my experience I found that people who got into music/raves later and were championing happy hardcore etc. didn't stay with that genre too long, and quickly moved off onto other genres - I wonder why that was?? ;-) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 29/04/2005
(313) Festival out-of-towner attendance
(N.B.: You can tell that the demographics of this list have long since left Detroit behind as its nexus - in years past we would've all been talking about the lineup and accomo's and who's going, et al. for days. This year it seems like the discussion was over in a day.) Just thought I'd let you all know about what I've found - as of yesterday, there were no free flights (using f-f award points/miles) from LA to Detroit that weekend for under 50,000 miles. Today, there were 14 such flight combinations - with the lowest being a mere 25,000 miles! So, clearly, some people grabbed seats and then gave them up within 24 hours - so it's clear that, from here (LA) anyway, some people were probably coming to the festival (I'm guessing that's where those f-f mile seats were going to) but backed out. There were also several seats available on the plane in general coming out (on Friday). Meanwhile, in the hotel situation, I went to Hotels.COM and there was actually a room at the Ponch available for Sunday and Monday night. And, most tellingly of all, there's rooms at the Days Inn up the road a mile on Jefferson still available for Sunday and Monday night (I didn't check Friday and Saturday night, as I'm staying elsewhere those nights - thanks to you-know-who-you-are!), for only $63.71 a night (direct Web rate on www.DaysInn.COM). To me, the fact that these hotels are still available, even after the lineup announcement and press conference (did it happen?!?), says that out-of-towner attendance is likely to be way down this year. I guess we'll see what happens ... - Greg
