Re: (313) Bay Area - TRAXX Tonite!!!
Give Melvin a hug for his friends in Iowa. Oh, and wait until after he plays so he's covered in sweat!
Re: (313) Just booked my DEMF flights...
On 4/27/06, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...who else is coming? staying at the shorecrest again? tom
Re: (313) Disco D on CNN
To be honest I wouldn't touch K-Fed with a barge pole, but I think Disco D has the nous to do other things. He'll be fine. But K Fed makes Brian Austin Green's hip-hop album sound good. ;) On 27/04/2006, at 11:32 PM, Brian Prince wrote: Cyclone Wehner wrote: I think he's doing a few RB acts as well. I imagined he was working with Britney, not K-Fed, as that's what the rumours suggested months back but then he dropped the K-Fed song here and I realised. He's the most atrocious rap artist ever, K-Fed, but the song is OK. I wish him (Disco D) well. Anybody read the interview with him in Urb? Quite revealing, I never imagined. V brave to talk about depression I think. Good on him. Just to clarify the intended tone of my original message on the subject, it's not that I don't wish David success, it's that I worry about him making bad choices in a blind grab for fame. Sometimes the things you do to pay the bills can come back to haunt you, ya know? I mean, everybody's seen that ridiculous video of Federline pretending to work a mixer while bobbing his head to D's production . . . that record will never be more than an industry joke, purely because of its associated with Kevin. I'm not anti-commercial, I just think that over the long run, it pays for an artist to be careful who and what he associates with. -bp
Re: (313) Just booked my DEMF flights...
I guess nobody wants to go anymore... ;) http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060407/OPINION03/6040703 40/1016/METRO05 Cheers Rebelbass ...who else is coming?
Re: (313) Disco D on CNN
The Neptune joint they did for Mariah Carey -- the one with Snoop Dog -- is pretty slamming too. Mariah does some restrained (for her) cooing, and the beat's a monster. On 4/26/06, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/26/06, Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And frankly, if someone came to me and gave me a sack of money and said Make a record with Kevin Federline, hell yeah I'd do it. It would be a surreal experience, and it might be fun. It's honest work that hurts no one. if nothing else, make the dood funky! anyone check out that ill track the neptunes did with alan thicke's son robin thicke? i couldnt believe it, they signed the guy (whose older stuff was atrocious, he sampled that one fifth of beethoven disco cut. ew!) to star trak and gave him a hot Erotic City-esque beat! tom
(313) complete fest lineup
Adam Beyer Adam Marshall - live Adam X . live Andy Toth - live Anthony Attalla Ark - live Audion - live Blaze . live Bluetech Bodycode - live Brian Kage Carl Craig Chemlab - live Chris Rohn Clark Warner Colin Z - live Collabs Tour (Speedy J / Chris Liebing) - live Dandy Jack the Junction SM - live Daniel Bell David Duriez Dennis Cox Derek Fox Derek Michael - live Derrick Carter Dethlab Detroit Techno Militia Doc Martin - live + dj Donald Glaude Donnacha Costello - live Drew Maddox and Eric Cloutier Ezekiel Honig - live F.I.S.T. Final Cut - live Frank Martiniq Function Regis - live Greenskeepers - live + dj Heartthrob - live Ian Hind Insideout . live + dj J DILLA TRIBUTE James Holden Jared Wilson Jay Haze Jen Xerri Jenna Brown Jeremy Ellis John Arnold Jeremy P. Caulfield - live John Acquaviva . live and dj Josh Wink Julius the Mad Thinker Kenneth Thomas Kenny Glasgow Kero - live Kevin Saunderson Kill Memory Crash - live Klimek - live Krikor - live Le Petit Orb - live Little Louie Vega Magda Marcus Beier Mark Broom Mark Grant Markus Guentner Mike Clark Mike Huckaby Mikkel Metal - live Minx Monologic - live + Ian Mr. V Ms. Honey Dijon Neil Landstrumm - live Nicholas Sauser - live Nitzer Ebb - live Otto Von Schirach - live Pantytec - live Pascal F.E.O.S. Pepo Photek Planet of the Drums Richard Devine - live Richie Hawtin Rob Acid Live Rob Hood . live + dj Ronin Selecta and Matt Clarke Roy Davis, Jr. Ryan Elliot Shaun Michaels Someone Else - live Strider Superpitcher Tortured Soul - live Troy Pierce Yos Now, you all can figure out a way to hate this too. derek.
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
Damn son, if you can't find anything on that list to like, you probably shouldn't be at the festival. On 4/27/06, Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, you all can figure out a way to hate this too.
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
looks good to me, see you tehre - Original Message - From: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:39 PM Subject: Re: (313) complete fest lineup Damn son, if you can't find anything on that list to like, you probably shouldn't be at the festival. On 4/27/06, Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, you all can figure out a way to hate this too.
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
/me laughs to self as memories of playing with nitzer ebb in a pub chelmsford come flooding back. Nitzer Ebb! Awesome :) ...steve... Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: Adam Beyer Adam Marshall - live Adam X . live Andy Toth - live Anthony Attalla Ark - live Audion - live Blaze . live Bluetech Bodycode - live Brian Kage Carl Craig Chemlab - live Chris Rohn Clark Warner Colin Z - live Collabs Tour (Speedy J / Chris Liebing) - live Dandy Jack the Junction SM - live Daniel Bell David Duriez Dennis Cox Derek Fox Derek Michael - live Derrick Carter Dethlab Detroit Techno Militia Doc Martin - live + dj Donald Glaude Donnacha Costello - live Drew Maddox and Eric Cloutier Ezekiel Honig - live F.I.S.T. Final Cut - live Frank Martiniq Function Regis - live Greenskeepers - live + dj Heartthrob - live Ian Hind Insideout . live + dj J DILLA TRIBUTE James Holden Jared Wilson Jay Haze Jen Xerri Jenna Brown Jeremy Ellis John Arnold Jeremy P. Caulfield - live John Acquaviva . live and dj Josh Wink Julius the Mad Thinker Kenneth Thomas Kenny Glasgow Kero - live Kevin Saunderson Kill Memory Crash - live Klimek - live Krikor - live Le Petit Orb - live Little Louie Vega Magda Marcus Beier Mark Broom Mark Grant Markus Guentner Mike Clark Mike Huckaby Mikkel Metal - live Minx Monologic - live + Ian Mr. V Ms. Honey Dijon Neil Landstrumm - live Nicholas Sauser - live Nitzer Ebb - live Otto Von Schirach - live Pantytec - live Pascal F.E.O.S. Pepo Photek Planet of the Drums Richard Devine - live Richie Hawtin Rob Acid Live Rob Hood . live + dj Ronin Selecta and Matt Clarke Roy Davis, Jr. Ryan Elliot Shaun Michaels Someone Else - live Strider Superpitcher Tortured Soul - live Troy Pierce Yos Now, you all can figure out a way to hate this too. derek.
RE: (313) complete fest lineup
Now, you all can figure out a way to hate this too. derek. Not me. 'Rob Hood plays DEMF' should send a tremor down the spinal column of anyone who knows, and has some soul left. And the rest doesn't look an utter disaster either. If I can swing it, I'm there this year. K
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
Blaze Live Final Cut Live Rob Hood Live + DJ !!! Final Cut has me very intrigued and I wonder how live Blaze will be. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) Subject: (313) Record stores and stuff in Berlin.
- Original Message - From: Ivars SUB.LV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Discussion List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Subject: (313) Record stores and stuff in Berlin. The sound system is really good there. Damn straight. They've got Martin Audio upstairs in Panorama, and a massive Funktion 1 installation in the main room: http://www.funktion-one.com/Berghain_Germany_Mondo.htm Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
RE: (313) complete fest lineup
Blaze are playing live in London soon, T - but at MoS Will Final Cut involve Mills then? -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 April 2006 08:19 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) complete fest lineup Blaze Live Final Cut Live Rob Hood Live + DJ !!! Final Cut has me very intrigued and I wonder how live Blaze will be. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Could someone repost the full lineup?
or tell me where to find it? (It's not on the demf website yet). Sorry - I'm at work and the previous emails about it are on my computer at home. Thanks! Dan.
(313) Could someone repost the full lineup?
or tell me where to find it? (It's not on the demf website yet). Sorry - I'm at work and the previous emails about it are on my computer at home. Thanks! Dan.
(313) Could someone repost the full lineup?
or tell me where to find it? (It's not on the demf website yet). Sorry - I'm at work and the previous emails about it are on my computer at home. Thanks! Dan.
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
oh , why can't he just DJ? his live PAs are terrible :( On Apr 27, 2006, at 23:27, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: Adam X . live -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Could someone repost the full lineup?
Alright Dan, heard you the first time! Adam Beyer Adam Marshall - live Adam X . live Andy Toth - live Anthony Attalla Ark - live Audion - live Blaze . live Bluetech Bodycode - live Brian Kage Carl Craig Chemlab - live Chris Rohn Clark Warner Colin Z - live Collabs Tour (Speedy J / Chris Liebing) - live Dandy Jack the Junction SM - live Daniel Bell David Duriez Dennis Cox Derek Fox Derek Michael - live Derrick Carter Dethlab Detroit Techno Militia Doc Martin - live + dj Donald Glaude Donnacha Costello - live Drew Maddox and Eric Cloutier Ezekiel Honig - live F.I.S.T. Final Cut - live Frank Martiniq Function Regis - live Greenskeepers - live + dj Heartthrob - live Ian Hind Insideout . live + dj J DILLA TRIBUTE James Holden Jared Wilson Jay Haze Jen Xerri Jenna Brown Jeremy Ellis John Arnold Jeremy P. Caulfield - live John Acquaviva . live and dj Josh Wink Julius the Mad Thinker Kenneth Thomas Kenny Glasgow Kero - live Kevin Saunderson Kill Memory Crash - live Klimek - live Krikor - live Le Petit Orb - live Little Louie Vega Magda Marcus Beier Mark Broom Mark Grant Markus Guentner Mike Clark Mike Huckaby Mikkel Metal - live Minx Monologic - live + Ian Mr. V Ms. Honey Dijon Neil Landstrumm - live Nicholas Sauser - live Nitzer Ebb - live Otto Von Schirach - live Pantytec - live Pascal F.E.O.S. Pepo Photek Planet of the Drums Richard Devine - live Richie Hawtin Rob Acid Live Rob Hood . live + dj Ronin Selecta and Matt Clarke Roy Davis, Jr. Ryan Elliot Shaun Michaels Someone Else - live Strider Superpitcher Tortured Soul - live Troy Pierce Yos -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 April 2006 09:56 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Could someone repost the full lineup? or tell me where to find it? (It's not on the demf website yet). Sorry - I'm at work and the previous emails about it are on my computer at home. Thanks! Dan. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) London- Outlet/Ruck present DJ Pete an Dynarec
Spillin' your pint on this occasion will be: DJ PETE (a.k.a. SUBSTANCE - Scion / Chain Reaction / Hardwax) DYNAREC - LIVE (Delsin / Vaporwave / Digital Soul) Further provocation provided by resident turntable hooligans... The Outlet Collective, Nick Wilson Lee Bolton Saturday 13th May 2006 @ A Secret East London Location Tickets £7 adv. only - Available via [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 07967 332 964 The 'Fighting Talk' DJ PETE - Peter Kuschnereit is a man with a somewhat understated, yet deeply resonating influence on the electronic scene within Berlin and in turn modern dance electronic music across the globe. Most widely know for joining forces with sometime collaborator Rene Lowe (a.k.a. Vainquer) to form Scion, together they provided the landmark debut release for the legendary Basic Channel's sister-label, Chain Reaction (1995's 'Emerge'). The duo were later called upon by BC's Mark Ernestus Moritz Von Oswald to represent the duo's many excursions into dubbed-out techno in the live arena; a calling which in turn resulted in their destroying dancefloors across the globe and also 2002's awesome 'Scion Arrange Process Basic Channel' CD. Shortly after Scion's debut, Pete released a string of equally as compelling, solo recordings under the pseudonym Substance through CR which were then compiled in the form of 1997s stunning 'Session Elements' album. Remix work followed for the likes of Juan Atkins, and Central's The Memory Foundation (and more recently Robert Hood) cementing interest in his production work and the chance to release for Surgeon's Counterbalance imprint, yet again revealing a different side to his sound; this time under his DJ-Pete moniker. Despite a recording career that speaks for itself, it is fair to say that Pete is in fact just as renowned as one of the core members of staff at the mighty Hardwax in Berlin - without a doubt one of the worlds finest record stores - with the cream of electronic music passing through his hands on a daily basis, and it is with this in mind that we welcome him to The Ruck. DYNAREC - Having been honing his production skills since 1994, Dynarec eventually debuted on Holland's highly respected Delsin records with 2003's 'R-Cam' - An e.p. which, whilst wearing it's influences on it's sleeve, across the 5 varied tracks, in turn set an agenda for extremely potent electronic funk with particularly high production values. Interest snowballed and further releases soon came in the form of an e.p. for Marco Passarannni's Nature imprint, the launch of Vaporwave - Dynarec's own label - with the fearsome 'Eiso-X', followed by 'The Lost Souls' and the highly acclaimed LP 'Input User' (both once again for Delsin); all of which serving to further cement his reputation as a musical force to be reckoned with. With the 4th Vaporwave ready for release, remix work for CKal Glasgow's Point One Recordings, last years stunning 'Legendary Days' (Kondi) still very much fresh in peoples minds AND (phew!) a 2nd LP forthcoming on Nature, Dynarec has somehow also taken time to develop some of the other aspects of his musical personality... With three 12s under his belt as Chris Kalera, he explores the realms of techno and more pop orientated sounds and as Speakwave - his latest incarnation as debuted on last years 'Planet Delsin' LP - exposing listeners to recordings inspired by the motor-city soul of Detroit; recordings that have thus far gained such high acclaim as sounding like Kenny Larkin in his prime... Weighty praise indeed, which can only serve to further wet appetites for the imminent releases which include more tracks for Delsin and also an e.p. for Brighton's very own bastions of lush electronic sounds, Digital Soul Records. Clearly a man currently on the crest of the wave of his boundless musical energy, it is with great anticipation that we look forward to the arrival of Dynarec for what should prove to be a must see live performance from an artist that's on the top of their game.
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
On 4/28/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not me. 'Rob Hood plays DEMF' should send a tremor down the spinal column of anyone who knows, and has some soul left. i mean really, thats all they had to say! sh*t. there's some other nice additions in there as well, but rob hood is exactly what this needs. tom
(313) who posted eamonndoyle(d1)modelonetraffic24-09-05.mp3 ???
who posted eamonndoyle(d1)modelonetraffic24-09-05.mp3 ? and is there a tracklist?
(313) This Week's Mix :: Paul Smith (D1) Model One Traffic 23-07-2005
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RE: (313) who posted eamonndoyle(d1)modelonetraffic24-09-05.mp3 ???
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Re: (313) complete fest lineup
I havent chimed in at all on this subject, due to the fact that Ive just switched jobs and Im moving tomorrow and the COUNTLESS other things that have my life upside down, but Ill give me .02 now. I realize that for alot of you, the fest has morphed into something else (for better, or for worse). I, for one, don't see this as a bad thing. It may not be your idea of detroit, but for what is going on in detroit right now, it's pretty accurate. Paxahau has put together a pretty solid lineup that covers most of the bases from before. in some areas, it just scratches the surface, but at the very least, theres alot of great music. I dont know... I get where you are all coming from with the whole theyve turned it into a typical rave thing, but lets be honest... look at the festivals that are put on all around the world. Dont you feel this has more to offer than, say... timewarp? Or even I Love Techno? I do. Its more diverse than either of those, and with overall MUCH better music! (I dont see any Happy Hardcore on there..) And they did a pretty solid job of getting the next waves of Detroit producers on there. Theres a couple others I wouldve liked to have seen added, but I also see plenty that should have played YEARS ago (see: Jared Wilson, Brian Kage, etc). Thats all I can say on the subject. Im going... plain and simple. I hope alot of you do the same, but I can see why not. I re-listed the lineup, listing what all I am excited about, and to me... thats a good time! I hope to see you there! derek. On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: Adam Beyer Adam Marshall - live Adam X . live Andy Toth - live Ark - live Audion - live Blaze . live Brian Kage Carl Craig Clark Warner Colin Z - live Dandy Jack the Junction SM - live Daniel Bell Derrick Carter Detroit Techno Militia Donnacha Costello - live Drew Maddox and Eric Cloutier Ezekiel Honig - live Final Cut - live Frank Martiniq Function Regis - live Heartthrob - live Ian Hind James Holden Jared Wilson Jeremy Ellis John Arnold Josh Wink Kenny Glasgow Kill Memory Crash - live Krikor - live Le Petit Orb - live Little Louie Vega Mark Broom Mark Grant Mike Clark Mike Huckaby Monologic - live + Ian Ms. Honey Dijon Neil Landstrumm - live Nicholas Sauser - live Nitzer Ebb - live Pantytec - live Pascal F.E.O.S. Photek Richard Devine - live Richie Hawtin Rob Acid Live Rob Hood . live + dj Ronin Selecta and Matt Clarke Ryan Elliot Someone Else - live
(313) montreux
montreux has a fun lineup too! check this out: Narodniki-The laptop supergroup - Richie Hawtin - Ricardo Villalobos, Carl Craig - Maurizio - Luciano, Zip - Dandy Jack among other artists ranging from amon tobin to deep purple to the deftones to massive attack to ... KID ROCK!?! -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
On 4/28/06, Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize that for alot of you, the fest has morphed into something else (for better, or for worse). I, for one, don't see this as a bad thing. It may not be your idea of detroit, but for what is going on in detroit right now, it's pretty accurate. this definitely represents an improvement. there are names on here im unfamilar with, but is there any electro or ghetto tech on here? no UR/submerge representation is a little sketchy as well, is it because they werent asked or because they wouldnt play? huckaby and agent x are good detroit house additions, but where are some of the younger cats like omar-s and malik pittman? should be good to see john arnold again, that dood is always so good. but again, i still dont see any soul artists. there are definitely large chunks of the stuff of recent years that were highlights that are now missing. the industrial edge theyve added is interesting, but i dont know how well those artists are going to cross over to any goth types or whatever to draw more people. chemlab i wouldnt have chosen and i guess ill watch nitzer ebb if no one else good is on. final cut im at least slightly interested in because of jeff mills' involvement. the addidion of blaze live should be nice, but im not much of a LLV fan. I get where you are all coming from with the whole theyve turned it into a typical rave thing, but lets be honest... look at the festivals that are put on all around the world. Dont you feel this has more to offer than, say... timewarp? Or even I Love Techno? I do. Its more diverse than either of those, and with overall MUCH better music! (I dont see any Happy Hardcore on there..) i dont look at it as a competition. in fact, detroit has enough good stuff that it CANT even be compared to other stuff. Thats all I can say on the subject. Im going... plain and simple. I hope alot of you do the same, but I can see why not. I re-listed the lineup, listing what all I am excited about, and to me... thats a good time! i mean, its going to be a big party in hart plaza with at least as much good music as there was in 04 (though amp fiddler was one of the highlights that year, i dont see anything thats going to match that on this lineup!). and i had a good time then. and ill be there along with the usual strong pittsburgh representation. tom
RE: (313) complete fest lineup
Well put man. -Original Message- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) complete fest lineup I havent chimed in at all on this subject, due to the fact that Ive just switched jobs and Im moving tomorrow and the COUNTLESS other things that have my life upside down, but Ill give me .02 now. I realize that for alot of you, the fest has morphed into something else (for better, or for worse). I, for one, don't see this as a bad thing. It may not be your idea of detroit, but for what is going on in detroit right now, it's pretty accurate. Paxahau has put together a pretty solid lineup that covers most of the bases from before. in some areas, it just scratches the surface, but at the very least, theres alot of great music. I dont know... I get where you are all coming from with the whole theyve turned it into a typical rave thing, but lets be honest... look at the festivals that are put on all around the world. Dont you feel this has more to offer than, say... timewarp? Or even I Love Techno? I do. Its more diverse than either of those, and with overall MUCH better music! (I dont see any Happy Hardcore on there..) And they did a pretty solid job of getting the next waves of Detroit producers on there. Theres a couple others I wouldve liked to have seen added, but I also see plenty that should have played YEARS ago (see: Jared Wilson, Brian Kage, etc). Thats all I can say on the subject. Im going... plain and simple. I hope alot of you do the same, but I can see why not. I re-listed the lineup, listing what all I am excited about, and to me... thats a good time! I hope to see you there! derek. On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: Adam Beyer Adam Marshall - live Adam X . live Andy Toth - live Ark - live Audion - live Blaze . live Brian Kage Carl Craig Clark Warner Colin Z - live Dandy Jack the Junction SM - live Daniel Bell Derrick Carter Detroit Techno Militia Donnacha Costello - live Drew Maddox and Eric Cloutier Ezekiel Honig - live Final Cut - live Frank Martiniq Function Regis - live Heartthrob - live Ian Hind James Holden Jared Wilson Jeremy Ellis John Arnold Josh Wink Kenny Glasgow Kill Memory Crash - live Krikor - live Le Petit Orb - live Little Louie Vega Mark Broom Mark Grant Mike Clark Mike Huckaby Monologic - live + Ian Ms. Honey Dijon Neil Landstrumm - live Nicholas Sauser - live Nitzer Ebb - live Pantytec - live Pascal F.E.O.S. Photek Richard Devine - live Richie Hawtin Rob Acid Live Rob Hood . live + dj Ronin Selecta and Matt Clarke Ryan Elliot Someone Else - live
RE: (313) complete fest lineup
/jimmer Derek -Original Message- From: Jason Trolian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:13 AM To: 'Derek Plaslaiko.'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) complete fest lineup Well put man. -Original Message- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) complete fest lineup I havent chimed in at all on this subject, due to the fact that Ive just switched jobs and Im moving tomorrow and the COUNTLESS other things that have my life upside down, but Ill give me .02 now. I realize that for alot of you, the fest has morphed into something else (for better, or for worse). I, for one, don't see this as a bad thing. It may not be your idea of detroit, but for what is going on in detroit right now, it's pretty accurate. Paxahau has put together a pretty solid lineup that covers most of the bases from before. in some areas, it just scratches the surface, but at the very least, theres alot of great music. I dont know... I get where you are all coming from with the whole theyve turned it into a typical rave thing, but lets be honest... look at the festivals that are put on all around the world. Dont you feel this has more to offer than, say... timewarp? Or even I Love Techno? I do. Its more diverse than either of those, and with overall MUCH better music! (I dont see any Happy Hardcore on there..) And they did a pretty solid job of getting the next waves of Detroit producers on there. Theres a couple others I wouldve liked to have seen added, but I also see plenty that should have played YEARS ago (see: Jared Wilson, Brian Kage, etc). Thats all I can say on the subject. Im going... plain and simple. I hope alot of you do the same, but I can see why not. I re-listed the lineup, listing what all I am excited about, and to me... thats a good time! I hope to see you there! derek. On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: Adam Beyer Adam Marshall - live Adam X . live Andy Toth - live Ark - live Audion - live Blaze . live Brian Kage Carl Craig Clark Warner Colin Z - live Dandy Jack the Junction SM - live Daniel Bell Derrick Carter Detroit Techno Militia Donnacha Costello - live Drew Maddox and Eric Cloutier Ezekiel Honig - live Final Cut - live Frank Martiniq Function Regis - live Heartthrob - live Ian Hind James Holden Jared Wilson Jeremy Ellis John Arnold Josh Wink Kenny Glasgow Kill Memory Crash - live Krikor - live Le Petit Orb - live Little Louie Vega Mark Broom Mark Grant Mike Clark Mike Huckaby Monologic - live + Ian Ms. Honey Dijon Neil Landstrumm - live Nicholas Sauser - live Nitzer Ebb - live Pantytec - live Pascal F.E.O.S. Photek Richard Devine - live Richie Hawtin Rob Acid Live Rob Hood . live + dj Ronin Selecta and Matt Clarke Ryan Elliot Someone Else - live
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
I'll toss my hat on to that hatrack as well. There are things I could easily skip in the list - but there have always been things I could easily skip (well - maybe not as easily as a few of these :-). I would also add that C2 pulled in things that 'weren't Detroit' as well (e.g., Tortoise, Autechre, etc.), but I felt like that added to the mix, not detracted from it. jeff -- Original message -- I realize that for alot of you, the fest has morphed into something else (for better, or for worse). I, for one, don't see this as a bad thing.
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
I think that what's really missing from DEMF is there's no boxing ring. I want to see Tom Cox go a few rounds with Bone, and maybe he and Derek can work out their past differences with Queensbury rules.
Re: (313) complete fest lineup
DJ BONE does not need a boxing ring to ATTACK On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:24, Kent Williams wrote: I want to see Tom Cox go a few rounds with Bone, -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) montreux
Yeah but then you have to go to Switzerland. Do they have afterparties in meat lockers in Montreux? I think not. On 4/28/06, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: montreux has a fun lineup too! check this out: Narodniki-The laptop supergroup - Richie Hawtin - Ricardo Villalobos, Carl Craig - Maurizio - Luciano, Zip - Dandy Jack among other artists ranging from amon tobin to deep purple to the deftones to massive attack to ... KID ROCK!?!
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Kent Williams wrote: I think that what's really missing from DEMF is there's no boxing ring. I want to see Tom Cox go a few rounds with Bone, and maybe he and Derek can work out their past differences with Queensbury rules. Oh, Coxie and I have squashed our beefs (i think...) and I fully plan to buy him a beer. Of course, Ill have to buy 2 cuz the first ones being dumped right over his head. derek.
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Oh, Coxie and I have squashed our beefs (i think...) and I fully plan to buy him a beer. Of course, Ill have to buy 2 cuz the first ones being dumped right over his head. Does Face get the other one D? /Jimmer Self
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Martin Dust wrote: Does Face get the other one D? /Jimmer Self Nah... his uptown-douchie self wont come to the fest, im sure.
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Dont you feel this has more to offer than, say... timewarp? Or even I Love Techno? I do. Its more diverse than either of those, and with overall MUCH better music! (I dont see any Happy Hardcore on there..) Sorry, just can't say I see the same thing. When they've given time slots to the Progressive House/Trance DJs of Picturethisdetroit.com something has gone seriously askew. I don't care if they are local DJs and that's what is going on in Detroit. That music is soulless and it's sh!t. Even if the DJs are from Detroit the music isn't and has been ripped so far from it's techno roots that it's practically anti-techno. You can find pro/trance at any other festival around the world and it's absence from the DEMF was what made the weekend so great. DEMF was a hi-tech soul music festival. As much as I like a number of the additions (mainly the house artists - Blaze, Louie Vega, etc.) I think the introduction of the Prog/Trance thing is bogus and it paves the way for more of that nonsense in the future. I liked the fact that you had to go to an afterparty to hear any prog/trance - don't give that crap an official platform! I realize that for alot of you, the fest has morphed into something else (for better, or for worse). Well, it's worse - should I be excited about that? F*ck that. MEK
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On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, just can't say I see the same thing. When they've given time slots to the Progressive House/Trance DJs of Picturethisdetroit.com something has gone seriously askew. Huh? The only DJs I recognize from picturethisdetroit.com on the lineup are: Kage - prog house? e Thomas Barnett - the guy who wrote strings of life? ok Terrence Parker? Dennis Cox - opened for Tall Paul, but has tracks on Soiree, which last I checked was pretty OK Shawn Michaels - Fine, he name checks Sander Kleinenberg as an influence. Is one DJ going to spoil the whole fest for you? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I couldnt agree more, but weve had it our way for 6 years prior and the fest has consistantly caused its organizers to go into debt. Theres plenty to love about the fest in its current form, so why not embrace it? To each his own. I can overlook the crap thats on there. If you cannot, I really DO understand. With so much going on all over hart plaza all weekend, it will be really easy for me to miss all of the bullsh*t. derek. On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dont you feel this has more to offer than, say... timewarp? Or even I Love Techno? I do. Its more diverse than either of those, and with overall MUCH better music! (I dont see any Happy Hardcore on there..) Sorry, just can't say I see the same thing. When they've given time slots to the Progressive House/Trance DJs of Picturethisdetroit.com something has gone seriously askew. I don't care if they are local DJs and that's what is going on in Detroit. That music is soulless and it's sh!t. Even if the DJs are from Detroit the music isn't and has been ripped so far from it's techno roots that it's practically anti-techno. You can find pro/trance at any other festival around the world and it's absence from the DEMF was what made the weekend so great. DEMF was a hi-tech soul music festival. As much as I like a number of the additions (mainly the house artists - Blaze, Louie Vega, etc.) I think the introduction of the Prog/Trance thing is bogus and it paves the way for more of that nonsense in the future. I liked the fact that you had to go to an afterparty to hear any prog/trance - don't give that crap an official platform! I realize that for alot of you, the fest has morphed into something else (for better, or for worse). Well, it's worse - should I be excited about that? F*ck that. MEK
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Just a correction: Kage is on the Beretta Music label and has nothing to do with PictureThisDetroit (although he may have played on of their events at some point). He's playing under the Nefarious showcase. From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Huh? The only DJs I recognize from picturethisdetroit.com on the lineup are: Kage - prog house? e Thomas Barnett - the guy who wrote strings of life? ok Terrence Parker? Dennis Cox - opened for Tall Paul, but has tracks on Soiree, which last I checked was pretty OK Shawn Michaels - Fine, he name checks Sander Kleinenberg as an influence. Is one DJ going to spoil the whole fest for you? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The PTD dj bio page makes no distinction between its members and guests. It also makes my computer slow and it's ugly. AND it looks like POTD, so four strikes against them :) On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:40, Carissa Tintinalli wrote: Kage is on the Beretta Music label and has nothing to do with PictureThisDetroit (although he may have played on of their events at some point). He's playing under the Nefarious showcase. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Kage - prog house? e not so. He makes some fluffy techno, but id hardly call it progressive. Most of his stuff is like Carola or Parisio. Just did a really gret EP with Adam Jay and has a release coming out on Crosstown Rebels. I acctually really dig his stuff. But its not progressive, in my opinion. *shrug* derek.
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On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:44, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: But its not progressive, in my opinion. Oh, I didn't mean to imply that his music was at all. In fact I meant the opposite and apparently did a lousy job :) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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.quote texas -Original Message- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:54 AM To: Martin Dust Cc: Kent Williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) complete fest lineup On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Martin Dust wrote: Does Face get the other one D? /Jimmer Self Nah... his uptown-douchie self wont come to the fest, im sure.
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we should storm the stage and insist that Beard closes out the festival Jason Trolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well put man. -Original Message- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) complete fest lineup I havent chimed in at all on this subject, due to the fact that Ive just switched jobs and Im moving tomorrow and the COUNTLESS other things that have my life upside down, but Ill give me .02 now. I realize that for alot of you, the fest has morphed into something else (for better, or for worse). I, for one, don't see this as a bad thing. It may not be your idea of detroit, but for what is going on in detroit right now, it's pretty accurate. Paxahau has put together a pretty solid lineup that covers most of the bases from before. in some areas, it just scratches the surface, but at the very least, theres alot of great music. I dont know... I get where you are all coming from with the whole theyve turned it into a typical rave thing, but lets be honest... look at the festivals that are put on all around the world. Dont you feel this has more to offer than, say... timewarp? Or even I Love Techno? I do. Its more diverse than either of those, and with overall MUCH better music! (I dont see any Happy Hardcore on there..) And they did a pretty solid job of getting the next waves of Detroit producers on there. Theres a couple others I wouldve liked to have seen added, but I also see plenty that should have played YEARS ago (see: Jared Wilson, Brian Kage, etc). Thats all I can say on the subject. Im going... plain and simple. I hope alot of you do the same, but I can see why not. I re-listed the lineup, listing what all I am excited about, and to me... thats a good time! I hope to see you there! derek. On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: Adam Beyer Adam Marshall - live Adam X . live Andy Toth - live Ark - live Audion - live Blaze . live Brian Kage Carl Craig Clark Warner Colin Z - live Dandy Jack the Junction SM - live Daniel Bell Derrick Carter Detroit Techno Militia Donnacha Costello - live Drew Maddox and Eric Cloutier Ezekiel Honig - live Final Cut - live Frank Martiniq Function Regis - live Heartthrob - live Ian Hind James Holden Jared Wilson Jeremy Ellis John Arnold Josh Wink Kenny Glasgow Kill Memory Crash - live Krikor - live Le Petit Orb - live Little Louie Vega Mark Broom Mark Grant Mike Clark Mike Huckaby Monologic - live + Ian Ms. Honey Dijon Neil Landstrumm - live Nicholas Sauser - live Nitzer Ebb - live Pantytec - live Pascal F.E.O.S. Photek Richard Devine - live Richie Hawtin Rob Acid Live Rob Hood . live + dj Ronin Selecta and Matt Clarke Ryan Elliot Someone Else - live
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is he even coming? maybe it depends on what CPST is at :) Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, Coxie and I have squashed our beefs (i think...) and I fully plan to buy him a beer. Of course, Ill have to buy 2 cuz the first ones being dumped right over his head. Does Face get the other one D? /Jimmer Self
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Huh? The only DJs I recognize from picturethisdetroit.com on the lineup are: Kage - prog house? e Thomas Barnett - the guy who wrote strings of life? ok Terrence Parker? Do you see Terrence Parker or Thomas Barnett on the line-up??? I don't. Dennis Cox - opened for Tall Paul, but has tracks on Soiree, which last I checked was pretty OK I agree - think more Soiree people is good a great but relatively unknown label Shawn Michaels - Fine, he name checks Sander Kleinenberg as an influence. uh, yeah. check the people below as well: Kenneth Thomas - His early influences include such artists as; Paul Oakenfold, Tiesto, Sandra Collins, Sasha Digweed, Dave Seaman and Jon Pak. Yos Marcus Beier Jenna Brown - electro/prog/breaks Anthony Attalla - take a listen to his house sound http://www.anthonyattalla.com/aaspinner.html Is one DJ going to spoil the whole fest for you? no, but a whole stage of them might - They're local DJs, fine. They play *in* Detroit, fine. They are *from* Detroit, sure. Their music represents Detroit? No f*cking way it does. It's Euro crap from Euro producers that never understood Detroit music. It's Ibiza Euro Shiny Shirt sh!t. How you could possibly think that even ONE progressive house/trance DJ has a place on a stage in Detroit is beyond me. No wonder UR aren't involved. it's good to see WOW getting a showcase MEK Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/28/2006 11:32:49 AM: On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, just can't say I see the same thing. When they've given time slots to the Progressive House/Trance DJs of Picturethisdetroit.com something has gone seriously askew. Huh? The only DJs I recognize from picturethisdetroit.com on the lineup are: Kage - prog house? e Thomas Barnett - the guy who wrote strings of life? ok Terrence Parker? Dennis Cox - opened for Tall Paul, but has tracks on Soiree, which last I checked was pretty OK Shawn Michaels - Fine, he name checks Sander Kleinenberg as an influence. Is one DJ going to spoil the whole fest for you? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'd rather see it die a respectful death. MEK Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/28/2006 11:36:35 AM: I couldnt agree more, but weve had it our way for 6 years prior and the fest has consistantly caused its organizers to go into debt. Theres plenty to love about the fest in its current form, so why not embrace it? To each his own. I can overlook the crap thats on there. If you cannot, I really DO understand. With so much going on all over hart plaza all weekend, it will be really easy for me to miss all of the bullsh*t. derek. On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dont you feel this has more to offer than, say... timewarp? Or even I Love Techno? I do. Its more diverse than either of those, and with overall MUCH better music! (I dont see any Happy Hardcore on there..) Sorry, just can't say I see the same thing. When they've given time slots to the Progressive House/Trance DJs of Picturethisdetroit.com something has gone seriously askew. I don't care if they are local DJs and that's what is going on in Detroit. That music is soulless and it's sh!t. Even if the DJs are from Detroit the music isn't and has been ripped so far from it's techno roots that it's practically anti-techno. You can find pro/trance at any other festival around the world and it's absence from the DEMF was what made the weekend so great. DEMF was a hi-tech soul music festival. As much as I like a number of the additions (mainly the house artists - Blaze, Louie Vega, etc.) I think the introduction of the Prog/Trance thing is bogus and it paves the way for more of that nonsense in the future. I liked the fact that you had to go to an afterparty to hear any prog/trance - don't give that crap an official platform! I realize that for alot of you, the fest has morphed into something else (for better, or for worse). Well, it's worse - should I be excited about that? F*ck that. MEK
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no - wouldn't call his music Prog/Trance either most of the rest though (no including TP TB and maybe one or two others) yep - they're serving up that EuroCheeze MEK Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/28/2006 11:44:23 AM: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Kage - prog house? e not so. He makes some fluffy techno, but id hardly call it progressive. Most of his stuff is like Carola or Parisio. Just did a really gret EP with Adam Jay and has a release coming out on Crosstown Rebels. I acctually really dig his stuff. But its not progressive, in my opinion. *shrug* derek.
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On Apr 28, 2006, at 13:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather see it die a respectful death. Come on, not much can be less ridiculous than the performances of Making a Scene two years ago, so it's far too late for that. (OK, fine, it was at a booth) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, but a whole stage of them might - They're local DJs, fine. They play *in* Detroit, fine. They are *from* Detroit, sure. Their music represents Detroit? No f*cking way it does. It's Euro crap from Euro producers that never understood Detroit music. It's Ibiza Euro Shiny Shirt sh!t. How you could possibly think that even ONE progressive house/trance DJ has a place on a stage in Detroit is beyond me. i agree! it's good to see WOW getting a showcase i agree! tom
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yeah, it was a booth - they had to pay for it and helped to pay for what when on the various stages - they weren't given the respect of a stage showcase MEK Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/28/2006 12:29:17 PM: On Apr 28, 2006, at 13:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather see it die a respectful death. Come on, not much can be less ridiculous than the performances of Making a Scene two years ago, so it's far too late for that. (OK, fine, it was at a booth) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Big 50/Moods Grooves shop
can anyone hit me back with a direct link to their shop? my regular computer is in for repairs and this PC I'm on doesn't seem to want to go there thanks MEK
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ah, nevermind - it finally opened MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/28/2006 01:13:36 PM: can anyone hit me back with a direct link to their shop? my regular computer is in for repairs and this PC I'm on doesn't seem to want to go there thanks MEK
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Was there last year... Grat time... It is the kind of festival I will go back in ten years time with my wife and kids... The FRed Mercury statue is enough excuse for a visit! G On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:28:33AM -0500, Kent Williams wrote: Yeah but then you have to go to Switzerland. Do they have afterparties in meat lockers in Montreux? I think not. On 4/28/06, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: montreux has a fun lineup too! check this out: Narodniki-The laptop supergroup - Richie Hawtin - Ricardo Villalobos, Carl Craig - Maurizio - Luciano, Zip - Dandy Jack among other artists ranging from amon tobin to deep purple to the deftones to massive attack to ... KID ROCK!?!
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He said someat about google, +0.003% and growing a beard last time I spoke to him, he had been drinking at Mo's tho... :) m - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 6:13 PM Subject: Re: (313) complete fest lineup is he even coming? maybe it depends on what CPST is at :)
(313) montreux vs movement
How long will it take movement/demf (memorial day weekend electronic festival) to have the integrity of the labor day jazz festival? Will techno have to gain the respect that jazz has--like if it gets its own section in public libraries as jazz does before techno is considered something for intellectuals? 20 years or so?? Does having a rave in heart-plaza make people who are not into underground electronic music hate us fans even more? --david
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David Smith wrote: How long will it take movement/demf (memorial day weekend electronic festival) to have the integrity of the labor day jazz festival? Will techno have to gain the respect that jazz has--like if it gets its own section in public libraries as jazz does before techno is considered something for intellectuals? I think this is an interesting subject. Techno is doing better than most dance music genres at driving itself into more stable ground than just raves clubs. Everytime I suggest to people that Techno has or needs a life outside of its birthplace on the dance floor, I get strong resistance .. which is a good sign I suppose. Not that I think it should abandon the dancefloor .. like Jazz has never left the smoky club .. but it has traversed into much broader environments creating a longevity for the music form. NZ has two schools of Jazz. I would love to think that one day we would have a school of Techno ?! I think currently that it is a generational issue .. and in that respect we are fortunate that we have a direct connection to history .. but we are still living in the origins. However nearly all the originators of Techno have in some form or other carried their practice into different areas, which bodes well for the future. If you look at the history of Jazz, it is entering its second third generation of innovators and players. This progression and subsequent pickup by a new generations is what makes the music vital. It's really a question of weather young people are going to take Techno Music as a form and continue it .. in what ever dimension. I think we are on the cusp as the moment. As the older members of the Techno community try to quantify and establish their understanding of the form .. and the younger members tell to them to shut up and dance. This means we have life at both ends of the spectrum. I find some resistance to the intellectualisms of Techno, but to me its the ideas that are expressed through the music that binds the form. If we deny the fact that some of us think about the music, then we might as well just stick to raving till dawn as the only way to preserve the culture. While raving has primal qualities that are timeless. I think the practice of dancing all night in ecstasy's are fairly well established in human culture, and does not need a lot of energy to maintain. Just bang the rocks together! However using music as a form to explore and express ideas through specific modes of thinking is a practice of higher culture that needs a little more involvement to maintain. Techno ' is based on technology .. and this is the start point for the discourse that will enable Techno as a music form long into the future. I think Techno against all other forms of dance music explores the human relationship with machines. The tension between design vs application. Do the machines control us ' or do we control the machines. etc etc. It is difficult to find this discussion in a more fluent form than Techno .. and the bonus is you can dance all night like a lunatic while having the discussion. If you haven't already . . check this movie about the 303 http://ia300107.us.archive.org/1/items/NateHarrisonBasslineBaseline/BB_web.mov .. But yea ' how long .. ? Another 15 years .. which is the cycle of another Generation. .simon --- www.obscure.co.nz www.psurkit.net -- m. +64 275 606012
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The biggest obstacle to DEMF becoming as established and respected as Montreux has nothing to do with the music. The primary obstacle from where I sit is the fact that there hasn't been any continuity of management, funding and sponsorship. It's passed from Carol Marvin to Derrick May to Kevin Saunderson to Paxahau, with each transition fraught with drama. What DEMF needs is to get to the point where there's an office open year round, with a Festival Director who cleans up nice, who can make the rounds of the potential corporate sponsors and sell it. It needs an artistic director -- or a series of 'curators' like All Tomorrow's Party, who contacts artists about performing, starting on June 1st. People show up every year. Performers show up every year. Last year broke the cherry so that there's an admission fee to cover part of the expenses. Now all that's needed is enough continuity of management to ensure that every year isn't a cliffhanger. Oh, and what would _really_ help? A City of Detroit that wasn't a complete clusterf*ck. In any other city in the United States -- most of whom would love to have a festival like DEMF, the city itself would be helping financially. I love Detroit -- I love visiting Detroit, but compared to most American cities Detroit is a failed regime. It's Mogadishu with Michigan Left Turns. On 4/28/06, David Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long will it take movement/demf (memorial day weekend electronic festival) to have the integrity of the labor day jazz festival? Will techno have to gain the respect that jazz has--like if it gets its own section in public libraries as jazz does before techno is considered something for intellectuals? 20 years or so?? Does having a rave in heart-plaza make people who are not into underground electronic music hate us fans even more?
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no bones to pick except for this If you look at the history of Jazz, it is entering its second third generation of innovators and players. Entering its second and third generation? Today's jazz is decades past it's second and third generation. If you're talking about Louis Armstrong you're close to the second and third generation of innovators. MEK as if .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/28/2006 03:27:58 PM: David Smith wrote: How long will it take movement/demf (memorial day weekend electronic festival) to have the integrity of the labor day jazz festival? Will techno have to gain the respect that jazz has--like if it gets its own section in public libraries as jazz does before techno is considered something for intellectuals? I think this is an interesting subject. Techno is doing better than most dance music genres at driving itself into more stable ground than just raves clubs. Everytime I suggest to people that Techno has or needs a life outside of its birthplace on the dance floor, I get strong resistance .. which is a good sign I suppose. Not that I think it should abandon the dancefloor .. like Jazz has never left the smoky club .. but it has traversed into much broader environments creating a longevity for the music form. NZ has two schools of Jazz. I would love to think that one day we would have a school of Techno ?! I think currently that it is a generational issue .. and in that respect we are fortunate that we have a direct connection to history .. but we are still living in the origins. However nearly all the originators of Techno have in some form or other carried their practice into different areas, which bodes well for the future. If you look at the history of Jazz, it is entering its second third generation of innovators and players. This progression and subsequent pickup by a new generations is what makes the music vital. It's really a question of weather young people are going to take Techno Music as a form and continue it .. in what ever dimension. I think we are on the cusp as the moment. As the older members of the Techno community try to quantify and establish their understanding of the form .. and the younger members tell to them to shut up and dance. This means we have life at both ends of the spectrum. I find some resistance to the intellectualisms of Techno, but to me its the ideas that are expressed through the music that binds the form. If we deny the fact that some of us think about the music, then we might as well just stick to raving till dawn as the only way to preserve the culture. While raving has primal qualities that are timeless. I think the practice of dancing all night in ecstasy's are fairly well established in human culture, and does not need a lot of energy to maintain. Just bang the rocks together! However using music as a form to explore and express ideas through specific modes of thinking is a practice of higher culture that needs a little more involvement to maintain. Techno ' is based on technology .. and this is the start point for the discourse that will enable Techno as a music form long into the future. I think Techno against all other forms of dance music explores the human relationship with machines. The tension between design vs application. Do the machines control us ' or do we control the machines. etc etc. It is difficult to find this discussion in a more fluent form than Techno .. and the bonus is you can dance all night like a lunatic while having the discussion. If you haven't already . . check this movie about the 303 http://ia300107.us.archive.org/1/items/NateHarrisonBasslineBaseline/BB_web.mov .. But yea ' how long .. ? Another 15 years .. which is the cycle of another Generation. .simon --- www.obscure.co.nz www.psurkit.net -- m. +64 275 606012
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How long will it take movement/demf (memorial day weekend electronic festival) to have the integrity of the labor day jazz festival? There is a local jazz festival where I live .. that has been running for 28 years. Try and imagine DEMF in 2028 .. it's worth thinking about ! cause thats what it takes to have integrity .. commitment. Last year we got Recloose to play at our Jazz Festival ! This year we are hoping to continue the subtle influence of Techno artists. I have always felt there is a strong relationship between Jazz and Techno ' --- www.obscure.co.nz www.psurkit.net -- m. +64 275 606012
(313) CANNIBALL
the demf rebel afterparty tradition continues with an underground dead dance party from interdimensional transmissions. - Shake - Perspects (live) - Derek Plaslaiko - BMG of Ectomorph - more.. Saturday, May 27 @ Oslo http://interdimensionaltransmissions.com/
