RE: (313) Mike Banks interview - nice

2004-05-27 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
"The fact he mentions "manners" - man, who the f*ck else in 'dance' music
ever talks about manners? Total respect to the man. I'm sure such things are
the secret of longevity."


Me actually, and unfortunately so few people have them in this world..

-Original Message-
From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 May 2004 5:16 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Mike Banks interview - nice


Seconded - Great to read the words of the man himself. The more I find out
about UR, the stranger it seems.

"We don't make music in search of fame and fortune. We make it when we feel
like it. That can be extremely frustrating for artists on the label." 

Who is the 'we' in this quote? Doesn't this seem circular? It's the artists
who make the tunes, and they put them out when they feel like it - no
problem, yeah?

There's other strange stuff detailing the internal politics of UR, but I
don't want to over-analyze my heroes. It's just...interesting to think about
how things go down internally in UR.

This warms the heart though:

"If you're an assault DJ, we feel you got skills, manners, respect..."

The fact he mentions "manners" - man, who the f*ck else in 'dance' music
ever talks about manners? Total respect to the man. I'm sure such things are
the secret of longevity.

Timeline is so exciting, it strikes me as a real futuristic project, live Hi
Tech Soul. The benefit gig on the 31st is sure to be a night to remember.
Get that set on Soulseek someone plase!!

Andrew




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From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 May 2004 16:56
To: Alex Bond; 313
Subject: Re: (313) Mike Banks interview - nice



> http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6275
>
> so, that'll be thanks to the ol' technotourists.

Thanks for posting this link to 313, what a great story!   I encourage 
everyone into detroit techno to read this one...  Well-researched.  So 
few writers get it right.  Mike has always been about giving back to 
the community and supporting the grass roots efforts of creativity and 
achievement with the detroit youth, it's good to see him recognized as 
more than an 'elusive producer' in the (local) press.

Nation 2 Nation,

--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com





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RE: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies

2004-05-26 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Whatever, if the people are working in the shop, they represent the shop,
and as they were absolutely sh*t, that's how I view the shop too.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 May 2004 11:06 
To: quest pond; Emile Facey (Plant43); Nicole Slavin; Robert Taylor;
Brendan Nelson; Melody Ng
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies


I have to pipe in too. I always loved going to Koobla, the service just got
better over the two years they were open. Not wanting to be chrurlish but I
did hint yesterday that what some people might be picking-up on is perhaps
one or two particular people who used to work there. And funnily enough,
which two people are now the source of much bitterness among the former
Koobla staff, due to a feeling that they hastened the demise of Koobla by
jumping ship to Phonica (and apparently taking a lot of Koobla's
relationships with distributors with them - one of the defectors was the
manager)? From my reckoning, the same two people who could be a bit 'off' to
customers (but they weren't always, to me at least).

One of 'em makes crap tech-house though!

k

>-Original Message-
>From: quest pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:44 AM
>To: Emile Facey (Plant43); Nicole Slavin; Robert Taylor; Brendan Nelson;
>Melody Ng
>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies
>
>
>Yeh i'm with you here Emile for electro and some techno this store was one
>of the best. I have never had an issue with service. Plenty of
>fine records.
>
>Vinly Junkies is okay if your after house but nothing much beyond this.
>
>Quest Pond
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Emile Facey (Plant43) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 26 May 2004 19:28
>To: Nicole Slavin; Robert Taylor; Brendan Nelson; Melody Ng
>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies
>
>
>It's strange as I always found Koobla had a really good vibe. They also had
>a very large electro back catalogue where I picked up loads of
>things that I
>couldn't find anywhere else in London. Last time I was in there I got
>'Transllusion - L.I.F.E' and 'Shifted Phases - the cosmic memoirs...'.
>
>They were also really helpful when we were selling tickets for
>Mike Grant at
>Bleep43.
>
>Know I'll miss 'em...
>
>
>



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RE: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies

2004-05-25 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
You probabaly did, they were always tripping.

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Sent: 25 May 2004 2:13 
To: Brendan Nelson; Melody Ng
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies


My one experience was rubbish - I wanted them to pull me a bunch of glitchy
stuff and they looked at me like I had three heads

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From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:07 PM
To: Melody Ng
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies


Yeah, they were always completely fine with me as well - I went in there
quite a few times and never ran into any arsiness whatsoever. Maybe it was
*my* bizarre Scots/Cornish accent that made them nice??

Smallfish has changed location now - they've moved all the way across to the
other side of the road...

Brendan

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From: Melody Ng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 May 2004 13:07
To: Brendan Nelson
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies


Crikes, I am out of touch.

In relation to service - I never had an issue with them, they were always
patient & helpful..  perhaps it was my Aussie accent that made them
nice ... i dunno. maybe it went downhill after early 2003 ..

I love Small Fish, but it's location was always so out of the way for me
that  i always
ended up at Koobla..

cheers
m


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RE: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies

2004-05-25 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I tjough Koobla's service was shocking, which to me suggests why they had to
close down.

-Original Message-
From: Melody Ng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 May 2004 12:58 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Re: Koobla / Vinyl Junkies



Glad to hear that vinyl junkies picked up a bit on the 313 stuff. There
was never really much there before.

It would be sad to see Koobla gone - they always had good records and good
service! (and location is so handy)

(their website is still up as 'we are
planning to have an online store in March 2004)... Quick! who has news?

Cheers
Mel




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RE: (313) S.I.D Shop / Submerge

2004-05-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I don't know if you can just "turn up" and buy them

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Subject: (313) S.I.D Shop / Submerge


You know the S.I.D shop in Detroit?

I presume some people on here shop there.
Well, does anyone know if it's open during the Movement Festival?

A mate is off to the festival, and I was planning on giving him a few quid
to try and get me some of those S.I.D 12's.
(I don't own any of them)
Thing is, I guess he'll want to buy them as well. Does anyone know if
they're one per customer?

Also, can anyone recommend the essential ones?

I think I'd like to get the Drexciya one, I heard that a few years back.
But I can't afford them all, so is there one or two that are essential?

Many Thanks

Alex
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RE: (313) Oliver Ho/radio playlist - 15/5/04

2004-05-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Autechre?

> Does anyone know anyone else who does this? The only person I could 
think of is Aphex.

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Subject: RE: (313) Oliver Ho/radio playlist - 15/5/04


>I have the new album too, are you speaking about track 4??

Yes, it sounds like it has an excerpt of Electric Counterpoint, the 
Reich piece composed for/performed by Pat Metheny - a deeply 'techno' 
composition for those that haven't heard it - also a wonderful 
creation that I'd recommend to anyone.


BTW, I also got sent an electro record by EMS (on Satamile), it said 
in the press release that he builds all his own synthesisers etc from 
the transistor up! I was quite impressed by this, but couldn't really 
detect any noticeable difference in the music itself.

Does anyone know anyone else who does this? The only person I could 
think of is Aphex.



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RE: (313) Oliver Ho/radio playlist - 15/5/04

2004-05-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Oliver Ho is a very conscientious and thoughtful producer - I am sure he has
taken all the necessary steps.

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From: Dennis DeSantis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 May 2004 9:09 
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Oliver Ho/radio playlist - 15/5/04


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hello
> 
> Just received the new Oliver Ho album in the post, it's called 'The Soft 
> Machine' and is coming out on Meta. Listening to it right now in fact 
> and have to say that I'm rather enjoying it. There's a track that 
> samples Steve Reich (always the way to win favour with me) 


Do you happen to know if he got legal clearance for the Steve Reich sample?
Historically, Reich gets REALLY grumpy when people sample his work 
without permission.  I'd hate to see a lawsuit arise out of this.

Which Reich piece is it, by the way?


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RE: (313) Oliver Ho/radio playlist - 15/5/04

2004-05-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Check his label "Light and Dark" for some really deep stuff, also an early
doublepack on Blueprint (09??) was excellent.
Some pretty dense techno there, but with infinite more substance than a
lopped banger.
Take a look at his label Chango for some slower, funked out stuff.

I have the new album too, are you speaking about track 4??



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Subject: (313) Oliver Ho/radio playlist - 15/5/04


hello

Just received the new Oliver Ho album in the post, it's called 'The 
Soft Machine' and is coming out on Meta. Listening to it right now in 
fact and have to say that I'm rather enjoying it. There's a track 
that samples Steve Reich (always the way to win favour with me) + 
lots of 313 style synthy business.

Hadn't actually consciously heard any of his stuff before. Had lumped 
him together with the looped bangers people but there seems to be 
more to it than that.

Anyone have any further Oliver Ho recommendations?


here's last Friday's playlist


CHILLED OUT PASSION - Friday nights 1-4am GMT on PASSION 107.9FM, OXFORD
Live Webcast http://www.passion1079.com

15/5/04 1-4am
De La Soul  Me Myself and I (Instrumental)  Tommy Boy
Blotnick Brothers   Elapse Current Loop Satamile
Ultra-Red   A17 FatCat
Insync Vs Mysteron  Exit 9  Peacefrog
Emmanuel TopGeneration  Novamute
MoodymanUntitled (Laid Back Luke Remix) After
Midnight
EMS GetgettoSatamile
Nu Era  A Third Of The 3rd  Twisted Funk
Lucien-n-LucianoAlain Brite (Remix For Amael)   Peacefrog
Phil ParnellDo Your Living In The Night (Herbert's Dark 
Mix)Mantis
Orbital Chime/Impact (Live at V96)  Internal
MIX BY TOP ROCKING
END OF MIX
Bobby Byrd  Hot Pants (I'm Coming, I'm Coming, I'm Coming)
Urban
The 45 King The 900 Number  Dance Trax
Marva Whitney   Unwind Yourself King
Sixtoo  Old Days Architecture   Ninja Tune
Mike Ladd   Housewives At Play  K7
Boards Of CanadaOrange Romeda   Warp
Aphex Twin  Ageispolis  R&S
Herbie Hancock  Steppin' In It  Columbia
Wagon ChristI'm Singing Ninja Tune
Kenny LarkinMono E Mono Peacefrog
Glenn BrancaLesson No. 1 For Electric GuitarAcute



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RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc

2004-05-18 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I think Bin Laden was the producer.

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Subject: Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc



>Al Qaeda Open House

is this on NuGroove?

Mark Wilson with Bin Laden on vocals?

sounds good.
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RE: (313) Sonar Warm-Up (London)

2004-05-12 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Gutted. Right on my back door, but I will be away. Typical.

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Subject: (313) Sonar Warm-Up (London)






A friend just forwarded this to me, looks like quite a varied line-up :


San Miguel presents SonarClub London as a preview of Sónar 2004


Advanced Music is bringing an exciting flavour of progressive music to
Ocean in London on 4 June to launch Sónar 2004. Repeating last year’s
highly successful SonarClub experience, the artistic programme this year
will feature the multiple styles and sounds that eleven years on have
turned Sónar into a frontline trademark.


Sponsored by San Miguel, the main sponsor of the Sónar Festival, SonarClub
will be the calling card for Sónar 2004 and the meeting point for the
festival’s fans in the UK.



SonarClub 2004 Programme:


Ocean 1


21:00 :: DJ 2D2
He is undoubtedly one of the most highly talked about names on the
Barcelona club scene. The secret of his success is no other than an
exquisite and engaging selection of beats and breaks. Lot’s of old school
rap, a bit of drum’n’bass and the latest in hip-hop underground.


22:00 :: RJD2 (4 decks show + A/V)
With his newly released “Since We Last Spoke”, RJD2 has once again proved
that he could release an album every bit as surprising as “Deadringer” and
that his name undoubtedly deserves a place on the altar of non orthodox
hip-hop.


23:45 :: Vitalic live
In the wake of his new Ep for Citizen Records, the Ukrainian Vitalic’s best
continues to be his spectacular "Pony EP", a record with a tinge of the
eighties, freakism and first rate techno which still brings down the
dancefloor almost three years on.


00:25 :: Jeff Mills
In the avant-garde of electronics and light years away from other
pretenders to the throne, Jeff Mills makes it clear to us time after time
that his concept of mix and dance music forges ahead opening up new
perspectives for the techno genre beyond commonplaces, speed, precision,
personality and lots of character.


Ocean 2


21:00 :: Dj Food - Strictly Kev
Strictly Kev, aka Dj Food, is possibly one of the dj's with the greatest
amount of personality and charisma on the international electronics scene.
He is one of the acclaimed artists on Ninja Tune and has won worldwide fame
thanks to the ease and ingenuity with which he mixes the best of every
style: funk, hip-hop, soul, pop and drum'n'bass.


22:00 :: DJ Marlboro
The flagship of carioca funk, a kind of Brazilian booty bass, sexual and
hyper-rhythmic. Fernando’s work both as a DJ and producer is paradigmatic
of an underground movement which mobilises thousands of people every
weekend. What people are dancing to in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro.


00:00 :: Richard X
Crackling basslines, his growing reputation as a booty tracks wizard
together with hefty collaborations with the likes of Jarvis Cocker, Kelis,
Tiga, and Liberty X, are what launched Richard X to the top of the podium,
making him what he is today: one of the big time names of contemporary pop
made in the United Kingdom.


01:30 :: Andy Fletcher (Depeche Mode) dj set
Keyboard player with the historical Depeche Mode and the godfather of
Client, the latest revelation of the new wave of synth-pop, Andy Fletcher
will demonstrate that he is not only a good musician but also a magnificent
selector when he turns his eye to the eighties.



SonarClub London
Friday 4 June
Doors open: 08.30 pm
Tickets: 13.50 ukp adv


Ocean
Hackney Central, London
270 Mare Street, Hackney, London, E8
Box Office 0845 070 1571






Have more fun with your phone - download ringtones, logos, screensavers,
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RE: (313) detroit movement lineup

2004-05-12 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I played with Joris recently, and his selection was very "party" (and
Purpose-Makery.)

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Sent: 11 May 2004 10:13 
To: Phonopsia
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Subject: Re: (313) detroit movement lineup


Phonopsia wrote:

> Joris Voorn live - I hear nothing but great things

As you should.

I saw him open for Alexander Kowalski at Tresor this past Saturday and 
he was fantastic.

Fans of Kowalski should enjoy Voorn.  He's coming from a similar place.

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RE: (313) uncomfortable performing (was laptop something or other )

2004-05-11 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
OK, I will do my best to explain what I mean, but it may not come across
very well...

"Too high" is when you are having to actually lift your arms above your own
centre of gravity.
If you "assume" the DJ position (arms in front, bent at the elbow) then IN
MY OPINION the decks etc should be BELO , or at least level with that point.

It sounds silly, and I am having trouble expressing what I mean, but the
reason behind this is that whenever I have played with the decks ABOVE this
height, I find that I have to exert myself more, and my movements are not as
natural as they could be, because I am working against my own centre of
gravity (which is roughly a persons belly / midriff area.)

I am not a tall person, and obviously it will be different for many people,
but I maintain that if the decks are too high, then the performance will
certainly not be as lofty.



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Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Dennis DeSantis
Subject: RE: (313) uncomfortable performing (was laptop something or
other )






>Too low is infinitely more desirable than too high.

Just exactly how high is too high?


MEK



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RE: (313) uncomfortable performing (was laptop something or other )

2004-05-11 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Too low is infinitely more desirable than too high.

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Cc: Dennis DeSantis
Subject: (313) uncomfortable performing (was laptop something or other)






>I had to play sitting down once, because the only table available at the
>gig was much too low to stand at.  I've never been so uncomfortable
>performing.

In regard to low tables - how many times have you DJs out there shown up at
a gig and found the table they are supposed to be DJing on way too low?
I've even seen this at clubs where the table causes the person of average
height to stoop over all night. I can take the worn out shoulders from
lugging vinyl but if someone is going to have me going to the chiropractor
the next day because I was bent over like the Hunchback of Notre Dame all
night then they better give me the extra cash to pay for the adjustment.

so throw out the folding buffet tables, the single stand cafe tables, and
hike up those suspended hammock contraptions
give me something that is at least waist high!


MEK



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RE: (313) digital producers

2004-05-11 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Did the crowd go wild??

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To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) digital producers


I once gave away beer and fags at Surgeon gig, oh and we also pulled funny
faces at each other - does that count?


 



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RE: (313) digital producers

2004-05-11 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Let's all punch the air, do handstands, headstands and spins and pay no
attention at all to what we're doing then!

-Original Message-
From: Emile Facey (Plant43) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2004 3:33 
To: robin
Cc: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: (313) digital producers


What this seems to be boiling down to is that the more animated and into
your music you are when giving a performance to a dance floor the better?



on 11/5/04 3:05 pm, robin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> Emile Facey (Plant43) wrote:
>> I'm just reading yesterdays thread and (looking back at Alex's original
>> review) wondering why it is that the same comments haven't been levelled
at
>> Scion? It sounds like they used pretty much the same set up?
>> 
>> When I saw Scion in London I didn't hear the old 'he's reading his
>> email/playing minesweeper' comments once. I think it's got something to
do
>> with how animated the artist is behind the laptop. Scion were standing
and
>> one of them actually moved quite a bit.
>> 
> 
> Scion were only slightly more animated than CI but did use hardware
> controllers to control parameters in Live. Their starting material (BC)
> may have been more suited to the task at hand tho. They've clearly been
> doing the live performance thing with laptops longer than Claro
> Intelecto have i think.
> 
> robin...
> 
> 



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RE: (313) Z tracks

2004-05-11 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
There are more.afaik.

Out of interest, how did you get hold of them/it?

-Original Message-
From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2004 10:53 
To: placid; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Z tracks


 I've got 'em 

Sorry, I really don't think it would go down well if i was to start
distributing MP3s of them!
I've got a green one (with "Soulpower") and a blue one - anyone know if any
more exist?

-Original Message-
From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2004 10:47
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Z tracks


Anyone got any,  I haven't ever heard them.

Having finally got all the SID's.. I thought I'd set my sights on
something even more impossible

Even an mp3 or something would be nice.

Placid

www.acid-house.net





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RE: (313) Derrick May/T-Funkshun poster on Coronation Street

2004-05-10 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I saw that aswell - does this spell the commercialisation of T-Funk???


(JOKE!!!) ;0D

RB

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Sent: 10 May 2004 2:26 
To: 313
Subject: (313) Derrick May/T-Funkshun poster on Coronation Street




ok one for the UK folk. watching Coronation Street (a big soap opera 
here in the uk) the other nite (i try not to :)) and in the background 
was a T-Funkshun (http://www.tfunkshun.com/) poster with Derrick May's 
name on it!

cool eh?

robin...



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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Mills - Kings Of Tomorrow - Finally @ Lost 10th Anniversary.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 May 2004 3:38 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


Here's a fun game to play.

What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your 
Favourite DJ play???


Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not 
the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and 
Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 
birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!

cheers

Jason
On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>> but it more than made up for what I
>> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night 
>> before.
>
> What sort of stuff was he playing?
>
> I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, 
> Horny"
> etc...
> (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
>
> Alex



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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Agreed, it was wicked. 

Personally, however, I would prefer to hear much more contemporary stuff at
those parties, alongside the new stuff. Although you don't know "what's
coming next" you can safely say that you've probably heard it before.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 06 May 2004 11:45 
To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


Rob said-

"there was a great drunken festive atmosphere and, with less than 200 in
there"

Thats what made that party

-Original Message-
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Sent: 06 May 2004 12:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


I enjoyed the last Space Base before Xmas and had a fantastic time - quite
an obvious choice of disco and house classics (Relight My Fire, Let No Man
Put Asunder, There But For The Grace Of God etc) plus a number of
not-so-obscurities (check the Choice tracklisting for examples) - I'm sure
you could get better disco at a dedicated disco night but it was at Plastic
People, there was a great drunken festive atmosphere and, with less than 200
in there, lots of friendly faces around, so I had a great time pretending to
be a train ("choo! choo!") to Moskow Disco - you just have to hear disco on
that amazing system (the vocals especially sound so crisp on it).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:27 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London



Rob:
> Not much good was said about Saunderson's performance (on FS) but
apparen=
Dan:
>LOL - things aren't normally that way round! Wasn't actually able to go
anyway, but was sceptical about the LOST >non-techno angle after going to
one of their Christmas Dos at Bridge & Tunnel. Seem to remember getting a
proper >flaming from spw (sadly missed - not!) for complaining about the
lazy sets at this event ( a couple of years ago >now).

Just out of interest, what are they like these non techno lost parties? I
always fancied going to one.
also, a bit curious, when you say lazy, do you mean they just busted out
the generic disco/funk classics, or?

oh, and oooh, Final Scratch? is this the one that uses mp3? does that sound
ok in a club?

Thanks!

Alex
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RE: (313) Orbital to disband

2004-05-05 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
One of them is just too heavy these days.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 May 2004 5:06 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Orbital to disband


5/5/04 2:57 PM matt kane's [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> At 10:56 AM 5/5/2004, Kelly Money wrote:
>> http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/04-04/26.shtml#story3
> 
> they're not brothers anymore either! :)

I thought they where going to work it out?



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RE: (313) Anne Clark

2004-05-04 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Yeah, admittedly the Space Odyssey series "veered off", but then again, 2001
is an absolute masterpiece, so at least it started well.

His short stories, and other novels are pretty mindblowing.

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To: 313
Subject: RE: (313) Anne Clark


At 12:26 PM 5/4/2004, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote:
>Arthur C. Clarke, all the way.

Actually it's better to stop 2/3 of the way through some of Clarke's books. 
3001: The Final Odyssey was great until he started making a plot. :)


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RE: (313) Anne Clark

2004-05-04 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Arthur C. Clarke, all the way.


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Sent: 04 May 2004 6:29 
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Anne Clark


Isn't the problem with early techno more due to the fact of how fast
technology has moved on tho, it must be murder trying to write Sci-Fi these
days, even if you re-read some of Gibson's early books it amazing how dated
they've become.

Not Checked Anne out but I will now as I was always a fan of the dark stuff
and even David J stuff interested me...

Martin


4/5/04 4:13 PM quest [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Don't know this track but i like 'sleeper in metropolis', i dig the whole
> raw electronics and poetry type thing - i think cold/dark wave it might be
> called.



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RE: (313) viruses

2004-04-30 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
, and they usually just contain 3 or 4
words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately.


Or "Help a Leper." 

Or "I found this secret information about you."

-Original Message-
From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 April 2004 3:43 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) viruses




I'd be careful even with that method to be honest, as some of these viruses
do genuinely send emails from people you know / trust, having infected their
email systems and fired off messages to all their contacts. (ie the IP
address can be genuine even if the message is not)  The best indicator is
really the content itself - most of these ones ask you to check an
attachment, which installs the virus, and they usually just contain 3 or 4
words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately.

> - Original Message - 
> From: "peter mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: (313) something weird/abe duque, the hand inside the glove
> puppet?
>
>
> > if you're not sure wether a mail really comes from 313 or not, you can
> > easily find out by checking the header of the mail. most part of headers
> > get faked as well, but in the "received" line there's always the ip from
> > the source of the mail. the ip of the hyperreal-server is
209.237.226.90.
> > if you don't find this ip in any of the "received" lines, you can be
sure
> > that it's a virus or worm...
> >
> > bye,
> > peter
> >
> > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:56:53 +0100, Dan Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Just got one of those spam emails that mimics a delivery failure
> > > notice and has an attachment that supposedly contains further info.
I've
> > > never opened these in the past but have trashed them on the assumption
> > > that the attachment contains a virus or the like. Anyway, what you
might
> > > all wish to know is that I just got one from the following address!
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > My initial reaction is obviously not to open it and to warn you all.
Can
> > > anyone confirm whether this is the correct response or alternatively
> > > tell me if in fact it is a bona fide message - I've never received
> > > messages in this form from hyperreal before so I'm not 100% sure
whether
> > > to dismiss it or not + it seems to be totally out of any context.
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RE: (313) More Records

2004-04-30 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Also has an (I think) unreleased Jeff Mills track

Mosaigna - awesome tune, phat kicks. :0D

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 April 2004 3:01 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: (313) More Records




Try:

'Free' (Free-Spirit Mix) by Drivetrain on 'Motor City Dayz Vol. 1', 12"
(Psycho Thrill)

I missed this as a separate release on Soiree Records.

'Free' is a sky-scratching, psychedelic, libertarian retro/future deep house
with vocals. You'll like it.


This (12 year) anniversary EP on Psycho Thrill is great value.

Also has an (I think) unreleased Jeff Mills track.

k



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RE: (313) something weird/abe duque, the hand inside the glove pu ppet?

2004-04-30 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
1.
Delete delete delete.
They are clever enough to make it look like a trusted source, hence mashing
up your computer, should you trust it.

-Original Message-
From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 April 2004 2:57 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) something weird/abe duque, the hand inside the glove
puppet?


Hello all

Two points - 1st one may actaully be quite important for list peeps:

1. Just got one of those spam emails that mimics a delivery failure notice
and has an attachment that supposedly contains further info. I've never
opened these in the past but have trashed them on the assumption that the
attachment contains a virus or the like. Anyway, what you might all wish to
know is that I just got one from the following address!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

My initial reaction is obviously not to open it and to warn you all. Can
anyone confirm whether this is the correct response or alternatively tell me
if in fact it is a bona fide message - I've never received messages in this
form from hyperreal before so I'm not 100% sure whether to dismiss it or not
+ it seems to be totally out of any context.

2. Abe Duque has been mentioned recently on 313. Don't know much about him
myself but got sent a copy of the new DJ Hell LP and noticed the following
message when reading the liner notes in true trainspotter geek fashion:

'All tracks written and produced by DJ Hell'

then a bit further down:

'All tracks written, programmed and produced by Abe Duque'

What is this all about? Has Hell done a Milli Vanilli or is there a more
reasonable (and less libelous) explanation?



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RE: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier

2004-04-30 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Absolute rubbish Yussell- did you even bother thinking when yuo typed that?
And you know, you're comments just don't have any of your intended "shock
value" anymore.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2004 6:18 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313 list
Subject: RE: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier


>
> Interestingly, Mills gets a continual slating for "trying something
> different" -

in DJing, Mills is playing the EXACT same set for 10 years.


>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27 April 2004 4:17
> To: 313 list
> Subject: RE: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So is his entire career being judged on one night?  Seems that way from
> what you're saying.
>
> read this again - "an inexcusable half-hour" - a half-hour?! You're
> complaining about a half-hour?!  Out of how much time all together?
>
> christ almighty - let him try something different for a minute will ya?
It
> might not have worked for you but maybe it was working for someone else.
> if it wasn't working for anyone then so be it but don't f*cking crucify
the
> guy just because he tries something different than what you are expecting
>
> this calls to mind the whole thing about the preconceptions we take with
us
> to shows and then if the event doesn't live up to what we want or expect
it
> "sucks" or the dj was a "disappointment".  For example, Stacey Pullen just
> played here.  Even though I didn't stay for the entire event I heard from
> others that he played a fine set.  He was well on his way to it when I was
> leaving (don't ask - I was exhausted from work).
> Now the next day I'm hearing from loads of other people that they were
> disappointed with his set. Turns out they thought he was going to play
> "TECHNO!!", if you know what I mean.
> Most of the local jocks who call themselves techno djs were on the bill
and
> were all hyped about Stacey playing.  Well of course they were
> disappointed. It's not his style but they thought that's what he would
> play.
>
>
> MEK
>
>
>
>
>
>   "Robert Taylor"
>
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   "Kent williams"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org>
>   4.co.uk> cc:
>
>Subject:  RE: (313) My take
> on Laurent Garnier
>   04/27/04 10:52 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I was at the gig Martin was at and he was quite disappointing - He played
a
> 'party' section as if he was a at a student's union. He played Out Of
> Space, which was welcome last year at Sonar, but when he drops it in set
> after set, the novelty wears off a bit. He played an inexusable half hour
> of execrable nuskoolbreaks.  He also played some excellent stuff but he
> certainly seemed a shadow of his former self -  every set was full of
> surprises in the old days and he did seemed to be treading water on this
> occasion - last year's Sonar set was one of my favourite clubbing
> experiences ever, so I am not 'hating' him, just demonstrating why Martin
> made those comments about him
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:45 PM
> To: 313 list
> Subject: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier
>
>
> After all the hooting and hollering, I think a couple of things need
> to be said:
>
> 1. Laurent is one of the O.G. Technotourists, who started coming to
Detroit
> to hang out and play years and years ago. He is every bit the fan as you
or
> I. He LOVES Detroit -- the music and the city and the people.
>
> 2. While he's not the only producer in France, or the first, he is one of
> France's true pioneers in Dance music, and is a hero to French kids.
France
> is in its own way as insular and conservative as the US, and Laurent
> introduced
> and championed US house and techno to an audience that isn't always
> receptive
> to new music from elsewhere. His infectious enthusiasm for the music, and
> his skills in reading and motivating a crowd, allows him to lead and
> educate
> an audience.
>
> If you don't like him, or were underwhelmed when you saw him, that's
fine..
> It's horses for courses.  I only like some of what he's done as a
producer.
> But I will always

RE: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier

2004-04-27 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
...and that second sentence ISN'T levelled at you, Mr.
Elliot-Knight. :0)

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) 
Sent: 27 April 2004 4:32 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313 list
Subject: RE: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier


"let him try something different for a minute will ya?  It
might not have worked for you but maybe it was working for someone else.
if it wasn't working for anyone then so be it but don't f*cking crucify the
guy just because he tries something different than what you are expecting"


I agree with this sentriment, but don't think Rob was crucifying him. 

Interestingly, Mills gets a continual slating for "trying something
different" - is he (Garnier) more sacred to 313 than Mills??

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 April 2004 4:17 
To: 313 list
Subject: RE: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier






So is his entire career being judged on one night?  Seems that way from
what you're saying.

read this again - "an inexcusable half-hour" - a half-hour?! You're
complaining about a half-hour?!  Out of how much time all together?

christ almighty - let him try something different for a minute will ya?  It
might not have worked for you but maybe it was working for someone else.
if it wasn't working for anyone then so be it but don't f*cking crucify the
guy just because he tries something different than what you are expecting

this calls to mind the whole thing about the preconceptions we take with us
to shows and then if the event doesn't live up to what we want or expect it
"sucks" or the dj was a "disappointment".  For example, Stacey Pullen just
played here.  Even though I didn't stay for the entire event I heard from
others that he played a fine set.  He was well on his way to it when I was
leaving (don't ask - I was exhausted from work).
Now the next day I'm hearing from loads of other people that they were
disappointed with his set. Turns out they thought he was going to play
"TECHNO!!", if you know what I mean.
Most of the local jocks who call themselves techno djs were on the bill and
were all hyped about Stacey playing.  Well of course they were
disappointed. It's not his style but they thought that's what he would
play.


MEK



 

  "Robert Taylor"

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   "Kent williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org>  
  4.co.uk> cc:

   Subject:  RE: (313) My take
on Laurent Garnier   
  04/27/04 10:52 AM

 

 





I was at the gig Martin was at and he was quite disappointing - He played a
'party' section as if he was a at a student's union. He played Out Of
Space, which was welcome last year at Sonar, but when he drops it in set
after set, the novelty wears off a bit. He played an inexusable half hour
of execrable nuskoolbreaks.  He also played some excellent stuff but he
certainly seemed a shadow of his former self -  every set was full of
surprises in the old days and he did seemed to be treading water on this
occasion - last year's Sonar set was one of my favourite clubbing
experiences ever, so I am not 'hating' him, just demonstrating why Martin
made those comments about him

-Original Message-
From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:45 PM
To: 313 list
Subject: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier


After all the hooting and hollering, I think a couple of things need
to be said:

1. Laurent is one of the O.G. Technotourists, who started coming to Detroit
to hang out and play years and years ago. He is every bit the fan as you or
I. He LOVES Detroit -- the music and the city and the people.

2. While he's not the only producer in France, or the first, he is one of
France's true pioneers in Dance music, and is a hero to French kids. France
is in its own way as insular and conservative as the US, and Laurent
introduced
and championed US house and techno to an audience that isn't always
receptive
to new music from elsewhere. His infectious enthusiasm for the music, and
his skills in reading and motivating a crowd, allows him to lead and
educate
an audience.

If you don't like him, or were underwhelmed when you saw him, that's fine..
It's horses for courses.  I only like some of what he's done as a producer.
But I will always have huge respect for what he's accomplished


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RE: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier

2004-04-27 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
"let him try something different for a minute will ya?  It
might not have worked for you but maybe it was working for someone else.
if it wasn't working for anyone then so be it but don't f*cking crucify the
guy just because he tries something different than what you are expecting"


I agree with this sentriment, but don't think Rob was crucifying him. 

Interestingly, Mills gets a continual slating for "trying something
different" - is he (Garnier) more sacred to 313 than Mills??

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 April 2004 4:17 
To: 313 list
Subject: RE: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier






So is his entire career being judged on one night?  Seems that way from
what you're saying.

read this again - "an inexcusable half-hour" - a half-hour?! You're
complaining about a half-hour?!  Out of how much time all together?

christ almighty - let him try something different for a minute will ya?  It
might not have worked for you but maybe it was working for someone else.
if it wasn't working for anyone then so be it but don't f*cking crucify the
guy just because he tries something different than what you are expecting

this calls to mind the whole thing about the preconceptions we take with us
to shows and then if the event doesn't live up to what we want or expect it
"sucks" or the dj was a "disappointment".  For example, Stacey Pullen just
played here.  Even though I didn't stay for the entire event I heard from
others that he played a fine set.  He was well on his way to it when I was
leaving (don't ask - I was exhausted from work).
Now the next day I'm hearing from loads of other people that they were
disappointed with his set. Turns out they thought he was going to play
"TECHNO!!", if you know what I mean.
Most of the local jocks who call themselves techno djs were on the bill and
were all hyped about Stacey playing.  Well of course they were
disappointed. It's not his style but they thought that's what he would
play.


MEK



 

  "Robert Taylor"

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   "Kent williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org>  
  4.co.uk> cc:

   Subject:  RE: (313) My take
on Laurent Garnier   
  04/27/04 10:52 AM

 

 





I was at the gig Martin was at and he was quite disappointing - He played a
'party' section as if he was a at a student's union. He played Out Of
Space, which was welcome last year at Sonar, but when he drops it in set
after set, the novelty wears off a bit. He played an inexusable half hour
of execrable nuskoolbreaks.  He also played some excellent stuff but he
certainly seemed a shadow of his former self -  every set was full of
surprises in the old days and he did seemed to be treading water on this
occasion - last year's Sonar set was one of my favourite clubbing
experiences ever, so I am not 'hating' him, just demonstrating why Martin
made those comments about him

-Original Message-
From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:45 PM
To: 313 list
Subject: (313) My take on Laurent Garnier


After all the hooting and hollering, I think a couple of things need
to be said:

1. Laurent is one of the O.G. Technotourists, who started coming to Detroit
to hang out and play years and years ago. He is every bit the fan as you or
I. He LOVES Detroit -- the music and the city and the people.

2. While he's not the only producer in France, or the first, he is one of
France's true pioneers in Dance music, and is a hero to French kids. France
is in its own way as insular and conservative as the US, and Laurent
introduced
and championed US house and techno to an audience that isn't always
receptive
to new music from elsewhere. His infectious enthusiasm for the music, and
his skills in reading and motivating a crowd, allows him to lead and
educate
an audience.

If you don't like him, or were underwhelmed when you saw him, that's fine..
It's horses for courses.  I only like some of what he's done as a producer.
But I will always have huge respect for what he's accomplished


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RE: (313) Laurent Garnier

2004-04-27 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
"its a known disease
amongst these techno circles"

There are many "known diseases" in techno circles and I think that there are
VERY FEW people on this list and beyond that can lay claim to being "all
clear."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 April 2004 10:57 
To: martin dust
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier


no- i want to know. maybe its just because i'm bored at work, but a little
debate would be good.
not looking for a fight, but i'm genuinly curious to know why you've
choosen to stray so far form the pack on this particular DJ.

Unless the whole point is just to stray from the pack. its a known disease
amongst these techno circles


On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, martin dust wrote:

> I'm totally chilled, no shouting here, just drinking tea and shooting the
> breeze - there's no anger in my words just straight talking. I'm no
cryptic
> hater Y.
>
> There's little point in me saying why I think Larry takes the easy way out
-
> you can't argue with blind faith...
>
> Take it easy...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 26 April 2004 14:46
> To: martin dust
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier
>
>
> damn fool. i haven't yelled at anyone. (until now)
>
> if you just said- he doens't do it for me, i would except with a shrug.
> But you're making cryptic hater statements, like- he takes the easy route-
> or whatever it was.
>
> you offer no serious critique nor constructive critisim. just vague
> statements. As a person who is often accused of being a hater (usually on
> this list) I think I always back up my critism with specifics as to why i
> feel that way, and suggestions on what could be done in my mind  to not
> make me feel that way. You've done none of the above. You're just getting
> angry and i don't know why.
>
>
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, martin dust wrote:
>
> > I don't hate anyone my friend, you OK up there on your moral high ground
-
> > does it look like rain? Wasn't aware that you'd be made judge and jury
and
> > had the skills to decide where the line should be drawn. What I'm
offering
> > you is only MHO, that's all - nothing more. I've seen Larry Gardner
loads
> > and he doesn't rock my boat but he does for others - but then again I've
> > never run with the pack.
> >
> > If you can't take other peoples views with all this shout and pointing
it
> > may be best to keep quite...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 26 April 2004 13:40
> > To: martin dust
> > Cc: Kim B; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier
> >
> >
> > ok martin-
> >
> > you have offically crossed the line into hater. I don't even know what
you
> > mean by the statement below. does anyone?
> >
> > btw- this taken from Detroitluv, posted by Mr. Plaslaiko...
> > -
> > the man probably played 50-55 records...
> >
> > out of those:
> >
> > nervous acid.
> >
> > a mr. g record i couldnt identify.
> >
> > some remix of computer madness.
> >
> > and a different version of his own "the man with the red face"
> >
> > outside of that no clue but 90% of it was sweet.
> > --
> >
> > must not have been the 'same set' is guess.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, martin dust wrote:
> >
> > > Sure, I just believe he takes the easy way out...IMHO
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kim B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 26 April 2004 10:22
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (313) Laurent Garnier
> > >
> > >
> > > but few do... and even fewer do it so smoothly (making you feel like
> it's
> > > the only track that would have made sense there).  he's got the whole
> > > "journey" thing that djs like to talk about down... taking you places
> > > within a single set that other djs need several sets to do.  i've
> listened
> > > to a number of his live sets off slsk and other sources, and the only
> > > thing that's the same about them is that they're amazing, and knowing
> that
> > > i'd be front and center shaking my booty if i were there.  i, for one,
> > > cannot wait to see him on friday.  been counting the days for weeks
now.
> >
> >
--
> > --
> > > -
> > >
> > > Thank you Doris...this is my pointI am very happy about seeing
this
> > dude
> > > on Saturday regardless if "He has played this set before".
> > >
> > > _
> > > MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE*
> > >
> >
>
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> > > p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
> > >
> > 

RE: (313) deadbeat

2004-04-26 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Some pics from Czech Republic.

http://www.futurebeat.cz/phphoto.php?sid=510 

http://www.futurebeat.cz/phphoto.php?sid=507 

Rolando absolutely smashed it - awesome.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 April 2004 4:28 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) deadbeat


hey,

so did anyone go to the deadbeat festival?

how was it, there were loads of detroit peeps on weren't there?
three chairs/theo parrish/ectomorph/dj stingray are the ones I can remember
any reports?
or any reports from the czech party that the london peeps dj'd at with
rolando?

alex
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RE: Re: RE: (313)Kenny Larkin was: radio playlist - 25/4/04

2004-04-26 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
http://www.scaruffi.com/vol4/palais.html

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From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 April 2004 2:45 
To: ha
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: Re: RE: (313)Kenny Larkin was: radio playlist - 25/4/04


Interesting point, I think the reason that many Moritz tracks lie outisde
what I'd call pop is that though they have incredibly beatiful intricate
structures and melodic resolution, the changes often occur very slowly over
time or are not prominent in the mix, whereas poppiness is about the quick,
upfront sometimes crude hit, the moment when people start shouting and
throwing their hands in the air. When I'm dancing to BC in a club (sadly a
rare occurrence) I slowly drift off into another place - it's a gradual
process.

What was 'Palais Schaumburg'?


You wrote:
> while or because i completly agree with your use of the term "pop" i must
> say that except for maybe a few releases basic channel tracks are always
> "poppy". it's just very subtle, hidden and microscopic. all philhypis
tracks
> are subconscious pop, as are bc's very abstract carl craig remixes and
with
> all the later burial etc stuff it's just plain. might have to do with von
> oswald's pop roots (palais schaumburg) and the dub influence.
> 



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RE: (313) cosmic

2004-04-22 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
H donutsandrecords.

(Sorry)

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From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 April 2004 4:40 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) cosmic


Well, if *I* was in there with a few dozen doughnuts and several 
hundred records to play, I'd have nothing to complain about. :)

Brendan

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 22 April 2004 16:37
> To: Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) cosmic
> 
> 
> It looks like Homer Simpsons' work area.
> 
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> Sent: 22 April 2004 4:32 
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> 
> 
> Bloody hell, that is a seriously nice DJ booth! All clubs should 
> have DJ booths like that...
> 
> Brendan



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RE: (313) cosmic

2004-04-22 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
It looks like Homer Simpsons' work area.

-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 April 2004 4:32 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) cosmic


Bloody hell, that is a seriously nice DJ booth! All clubs should 
have DJ booths like that...

Brendan

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 April 2004 11:00
>
> Check that Dj booth out, now THAT is cosmic
> http://www.discotecheafrofunky.it/immagini_cosmic_enzino.htm



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(313) 23/04/04

2004-04-22 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Spam Alert:

Any 313'ers in Czech Republic this weekend, you could do much worse than
checking this out. It's our second foray into Cz parties, hopefully we shall
have a blinder!!

23/04/04 - FOUNDATION II

ROLANDO [Underground Resistance / www.loshermanos.com, USA] 
MAKATON (LIVE!) [Rodz-Konez, UK] 
CHRIS FINKE [Flux Recordings / Atomic Jam / Split, UK] 
RYAN BLACKMAN & STEWART LOWMAN - on 4 decks 2 mixers 
[Flux / Proton / Samurai / Aon, UK] & [Outlet Collective / Aon, UK] 
TRISTAN WATKINS [Phonopsia, USA] 
TOM DINNIS [DefinitiveSound / Ministry Of Sound, UK] 
LEE BOLTON [Locked Grooves, UK] 
JUNKMALE [Open Mind Recordings, UK] 
DAHO & GINGER [Nula2.cz / North Sound Works] 
NIKA 77 [Techno.cz] 
MONOTYPE [Techno.cz] 
MOLCZIK [EAE / Futurebeat.cz] 
NAILER [Exwired.org, CZ] 
MARTIN MEISE [Boo-kings.cz] 

@ Hall Cella, Pilsen, Cz. 8pm-8am. 

Cheap Everything.



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RE: (313) the future (Red Planet)

2004-04-21 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
How can "Journey To The Martian Polar Cap" have absolutely anything to do
with native American Indian issues?








 >Red Planet titles are all about native American Indian issues




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RE: (313) the future (a different approach)

2004-04-21 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I have discoved Space - yes, our Solar System and beyond. 
I have also discovered (or pehaps "found" is a more suitable word) Music
Production.

All quite "future" from my point of view. :0)

-Original Message-
From: Ronny Pries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 April 2004 1:02 
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) the future (a different approach)


since this thread seems to be related to the things we know for a long 
time, i'd be interested in your 2 latest discoveries of which you think 
they are new (you didn't know them before). may it be websites, 
movements, phenomenas or a band you just discovered, whatever. i'm 
pretty sure there are things to discover others didn't know before but 
are worth beeing checked out. i'm curious about the results.

ronny



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RE: (313) the future

2004-04-21 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
It seems foolish to me to define the "future" as something that the members
of this list cannot possibly reach..are we talking about "our future" or
"OUR FUTURE"?

-Original Message-
From: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 April 2004 10:47 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) the future



i guess, a part of it could be because the year 2000 has passed?

as 2000 wasn't that far away for a long time, and with the magic of the
number,
like 'dreaming' that would be a year when "all things would be better /
utopia"
filled in, by everybody their own purposes / dreams

and i guess, we need to get use to 3000? as being more exiting 2100? or
2500?
like that's the new year when "everything will be ok"
but a bit too far away ?
2100 maybe?



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RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?

2004-04-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I don't know about that - take Glastonbury Festival, or Reading, Isle Of
Wight, all the Virgin rubbish they do here too - none of those are free, but
they're definately festivals.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 April 2004 6:04 
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Jari Tolkkinen; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?


my point was- aren't awakenings just giant raves where you pay ticket and
walk through security and have you 10-12 hours of technoy goodness and go
home?

as opposed to festivals like love parade and movement that arr free and
open to the public. they take place in a public space as opposed to a
'venue' and encompass a whole weekends worth of happenings as opposed to
just one long night out.

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:

> Eryes. That's what festivals are, Yussel!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:31 PM
> To: Robert Taylor
> Cc: Jari Tolkkinen; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?
>
>
> am i wrong, or arent' these more just giant parties?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
>
> > I can think of two off the top of my head.
> >
> > Primavera: http://www.primaverasound.com/
> > "  !!! (SMOG) 12TWELVE 24 GRANA A TOUCH OF CLASS (DJ'S) ALEXANDER
ROBOTNICK ASCII.DISKO ATOM RHUMBA B. FLEISCHMANN BENJAMIN BIOLAY BLACK
STROBE CASIOTONE FOR THE PAINFULLY ALONE CHICKS ON SPEED AND THE NO HEADS
CHUCHO COLDER CRISTIAN VOGEL (DJ) DAVID HOLMES (DJ) DAYNA KURTZ DEVENDRA
BANHART DIZZEE RASCAL DJ/RUPTURE DOMINIQUE A EDISON WOODS ELBOW ELECTRELANE
EROL ALKAN (DJ) FANNYPACK FERENC FERNANDO ALFARO & NACHO VEGAS FRANZ
FERDINAND FUNK D'VOID (DJ) GINFERNO HUMBERT HUMBERT JAMES CHANCE & THE
CONTORTIONS JAMES MURPHY (DJ) JASON FORREST/ DONNA SUMMER JULIE DELPY JULIE
DOIRON KID 606 LA BUENA VIDA LAS PERRAS DEL INFIERNO LIARS LLOYD COLE LLUÍS
LLACH LOVE OF LESBIAN LUKE SLATER (DJ) MARCO PASSARANI (DJ) MATMOS MICHAEL
GIRA MISS KITTIN (DJ) MUDHONEY NINA NASTASIA NUMBERS PAT MacDONALD PIXIES PJ
HARVEY PLAID PREFUSE 73 PRETTY GIRLS MAKE GRAVES PRIMAL SCREAM REFREE RHYTHM
& SOUND featuring Paul St. Hilaire RUPER ORDORIKA SCISSOR SISTERS SUN KIL
MOON TÉLÉFAX TECHNASIA (DJ) THE BUG THE DIVINE COMEDY THE FALL THE GLIMMER
TWINS DJ'S THE HIDDEN CAMERAS THE LADYBUG TRANSISTOR THE MODERNIST THE
RAVEONETTES THE RUSSIAN FUTURISTS VERACRUZ WILCO WILLARD GRANT CONSPIRACY
XIU XIU"
> >
> > Awakenings: http://www.awakenings.nl/
> >
> >  LIVE:
> > Alexander Kowalski
> > Carlos Rios & Vincent de Wit
> > Jacek Sienkiewics
> > Joris Voorn
> > Luciano
> > Regis & James Ruskin
> >
> > DJ'S:
> > Acid Maria & Electric Indigo
> > Adam Beyer
> > Bart Skils
> > Cari Lekebusch
> > Cristian Varela & Marco Bailey
> > Chris Liebing
> > Estroe & Shinedoe
> > Gayle San
> > Heiko Laux
> > Herr ARTer & Terry Toner
> > Koze
> > Lars Klein & Jan Liefhebber
> > Lucca
> > Marco Remus
> > Lauhaus & Melon
> > Michel de Hey
> > Miss Djax
> > Misstress Barbara
> > Monica Electronica
> > Oscar Mulero
> > PET Duo
> > Petar Dundov & Steve Rachmad
> > Phonopunk
> > Ricardo Villalobos
> > Rumenige & Loktibrada
> > Steve Bug
> > Tobi Neumann
> > Vin-iLL
> > Wighnomy Brothers
> >
> > I Love Techno:
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jari Tolkkinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:53 AM
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: (313) Loveparade 2004?
> >
> >
> >
> > I read from the local newspaper that this years Loveparade will be
> > cancelled. Does anybody here on the list have more information about
this?
> >
> > Any other festivals besides LP and Sonar that are taking place in Europe
> > this summer?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net
> > --
> >
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RE: (313) RE: [SPAM] - Fwd: (313) Stuff for your Ears... - Email found in subject

2004-04-16 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Agreed - apart from Tobaccos Ties. But that's another story - probably.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 April 2004 4:51 
To: Placid; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) RE: [SPAM] - Fwd: (313) Stuff for your Ears... - Email
found in subject


Same here.

But it is the best track to come out of UR in a long time.

-Original Message-
From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 April 2004 16:57
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [SPAM] - Fwd: (313) Stuff for your Ears... - Email found in
subject




Begin forwarded message:

> From: Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri Apr 16, 2004  4:17:39  pm Europe/London
> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: (313) Stuff for your Ears...
>
> rather annoying that they r releasing the windchime on 12" having got 
> it on the 7" thinking it wouldnt be released on any other format...
>
> jeez
>
> p
>
>
> On Friday, April 16, 2004, at 05:14  pm, Martin Dust wrote:
>
>> 16/4/04 3:04 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>>
>>> very interesting stuff there...will have to keep an eye out the 
>>> that. i
>>> like the u don't know track on mci-001.
>>>
>>
>> New submerge stuff out -
>>
>> http://www.littledetroit.net/News/artl.php?id=177
>>
>> Matrix 6 is my pick...
>>
>



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RE: (313) Oliverwho/ Realaudio OT rant

2004-04-16 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I think that that is the software used because it is the most secure,
although I am not 100% sure.

-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 April 2004 4:05 
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Oliverwho/ Realaudio OT rant



very interesting stuff there...will have to keep an eye out the that. i 
like the u don't know track on mci-001.

and totally off topic but i wish people would realise that RealAudio 
files suck in a massive way (almost as bad as any kind of Microsoft 
format). Realplayer is clunky spyware that i'm forced to install to 
listen to stuff on record shop sites grr

ok rant over

robin...

Dr. Nutcracker wrote:
>>what sort of thing is it? techno record??
>>any clips anywhere?
> 
> 
> You should be able to find them on http://www.undercity-072.com/ud 
> and there is a third twelve following soon... 
> 
> : )
> 



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RE: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)

2004-04-16 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
It gives big Kev a very good reason to be dropping "Big Fun" (not that he
doesn't already.)

Sounds like it wil be a much more eclectic night than either the straight
Lost parties AND the Spacebase ones (which were "restricted" to music from
"back in the day.")

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 April 2004 3:01 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)


The blurb doesn't convey this very clearly but I think this is trying to
attempt something different to the usual ginormous Bank Holiday Lost party.
More like the last couple of NYE events.

I'm still not clear myself ...

k


SPACEBASE

(a LOST production)
BANK HOLIDAY SATURDAY 1st MAY
@147 CURTAIN RD EC2
10pm - 3.30am
£9

STEVE BICKNELL
and guest
KEVIN SAUNDERSON

And now for something a little different. We're gonna go back in order to go
forward. Latterly most known for their solid electronic techno sets STEVE
BICKNELL and KEVIN SAUNDERSON started out with a slightly different sound
that evolved over time. STEVE BICKNELL first invited KEVIN SAUNDERSON to
guest at the PLUTONIUM/LOVE nights he hosted at the legendary WAG CLUB back
in '89, as you may gather they'll be repeating the experience with selective
material from back in the day alongside their own take on future classics.
Hope you'll join us for this intimate gethering with a second-to-none sound
system to get down and party! >



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RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?

2004-04-15 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Not so

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040414/media_nm/germany_lovepa
rade_dc 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 April 2004 4:41 
To: Jari Tolkkinen; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?


Well I am told by a reliable source that this kinda thing happens and has
happened for the past 4 years..
 
It could be hype as last year it was rumoured to no go ahead but then it
did.
 
I reckon its a ploy to get more money from travel/tourism..





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RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses?

2004-04-15 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Touch :0D

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 April 2004 7:12 
To: Scott K Ellis; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses?


I just picked up an original pressing from Save The Children for 50p

-Original Message-
From: Scott K Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:01 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses?


Think I saw it at Hot Grooves for less than $10.  Sure hope Record Time
isn't jacking up the price that much.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:51 PM
To: 'J. T.'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses?



well it worked out at £11.99 over here ($20-25!)

cheaper than ebay prices i guess but still a little cheeky

somebody's been looking at the Ugly Edit prices and taken note.

robin...

-> -Original Message-
-> From:
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-> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-> org] On Behalf Of J. T.
-> Sent: 14 April 2004 17:47
-> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
-> Subject: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses?
->
->
-> i saw the first 69 repress at recordtime over the
-> weekend...it was $16!!
-> maybe it had the wrong sticker on it, i didnt have any money
-> anyway so didnt
-> ask. is it a euro press & distrib thing? orr..oh well.
->
->
-> >I've asked Carl Craig about this repress last friday (@
-> nouveau casino
-> >-Paris) and he said the three "69" records are going to be
-> repressed, but
-> >he did not mention a date. A good news for everybody who
-> missed them and
-> >don't want to spend hundreds on ebay !!!
-> >
-> >Hope that helps :)
-> >
-> >
-> >On 14-apr-04, at 16:52, Lee Herrington IV wrote:
-> >
-> >>
-> >>   can anyone speak to the possibility that there will be more 69
-> >>represses?
-> >>it's nice to be able to own a copy of "4 jazz funk
-> classics" without
-> >>having
-> >>to sell major organs to fund the purchase.
-> >
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RE: (313) Putting a Price on good music

2004-04-13 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I mistakenly ordered 2 copies.

-Original Message-
From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 April 2004 3:51 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Putting a Price on good music



Will probably raise some controversy but the new Kenny larkin on
Peacefrog is worth every penny of the 14.99 I paid

Jus listening to it now...

Emotional Detroit techno at its very best.

placid




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RE: (313) new Aardvark

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Yoav is Israeli, isn't he?? I believe he did a remix of Shake (or was that
viceversa?)

Anyone know how to contact him??

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Subject: RE: (313) new Aardvark



> havent heard the RushHour twelve but i think its a delsin one i
heardmassive techno slammers..

hey, more like the pumping rushhour 12" he did last year, or a deeper
thing?

on Delsin? soon? Great, been a while since there was some aardvarck
bizness.

that Yoav B coming on delsin is some hot s**t as well.

Alex
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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Nah.

-Original Message-
From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 2:11 
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) new Mills


you were the one imposing - you're telling me not to comment



- Original Message - 
From: "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'john harvey'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


> State your opinion, don't impose it  - that's my message. And it wasn't
even
> directed at you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 08 April 2004 1:58
> To: 313
> Subject: Re: (313) new Mills
>
>
>
> > Right, right, I see...it's "diss Mills time" again!!
> > At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to
do
> > things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
> > Take from it what you want.
> > At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at
all -
> > but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my
> > opinion on others.
> >
> > Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway -
> > because that is just not challenging, in the slightest.
>
> don't tell me not to comment, and don't tell me i don't get it, i do, its
> bullsh*t.
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
State your opinion, don't impose it  - that's my message. And it wasn't even
directed at you.

-Original Message-
From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:58 
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) new Mills



> Right, right, I see...it's "diss Mills time" again!!
> At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do
> things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
> Take from it what you want.
> At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all -
> but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my
> opinion on others.
>
> Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway -
> because that is just not challenging, in the slightest.

don't tell me not to comment, and don't tell me i don't get it, i do, its
bullsh*t.




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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I am - I love Mills - but wouldn't blindly defend him!

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:35 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Okay Ryan.
I still think you're a fanboy ;)

-Original Message-----
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:33 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


I assumed that your reference to my admiration of him suggested that I would
blindly defend him, when I wouldn't.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:32 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Eh?
Not sure what you are driving at here

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the
concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either.
I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? 
This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag.
Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you
admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan.

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Right, right, I see...it's "diss Mills time" again!!
At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do
things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
Take from it what you want.
At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all -
but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my
opinion on others.

Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway -
because that is just not challenging, in the slightest.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting
nonsense to explain it.

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a
concept.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan.

What do you mean by conceptual?


-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


No, it's obviously conceptual.

-----Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 
To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


But it's just a record

-Original Message-
From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)

"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design
to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time"

This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where
you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being
received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment
other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited se

RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I assumed that your reference to my admiration of him suggested that I would
blindly defend him, when I wouldn't.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:32 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Eh?
Not sure what you are driving at here

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the
concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either.
I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? 
This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag.
Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you
admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan.

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Right, right, I see...it's "diss Mills time" again!!
At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do
things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
Take from it what you want.
At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all -
but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my
opinion on others.

Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway -
because that is just not challenging, in the slightest.

-Original Message-----
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting
nonsense to explain it.

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a
concept.

-Original Message-----
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan.

What do you mean by conceptual?


-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


No, it's obviously conceptual.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 
To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


But it's just a record

-Original Message-
From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)

"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design
to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time"

This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where
you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being
received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment
other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense
these things cease to exist.

Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very
interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive
and know anything at all.

So there!

Peace,

Andrew





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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the
concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either.
I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? 
This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag.
Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you
admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan.

-----Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Right, right, I see...it's "diss Mills time" again!!
At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do
things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
Take from it what you want.
At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all -
but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my
opinion on others.

Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway -
because that is just not challenging, in the slightest.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting
nonsense to explain it.

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a
concept.

-Original Message-----
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan.

What do you mean by conceptual?


-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


No, it's obviously conceptual.

-Original Message-----
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 
To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


But it's just a record

-Original Message-
From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)

"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design
to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time"

This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where
you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being
received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment
other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense
these things cease to exist.

Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very
interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive
and know anything at all.

So there!

Peace,

Andrew





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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Right, right, I see...it's "diss Mills time" again!!
At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do
things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
Take from it what you want.
At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all -
but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my
opinion on others.

Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway -
because that is just not challenging, in the slightest.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting
nonsense to explain it.

-----Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a
concept.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan.

What do you mean by conceptual?


-----Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


No, it's obviously conceptual.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 
To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


But it's just a record

-Original Message-
From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)

"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design
to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time"

This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where
you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being
received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment
other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense
these things cease to exist.

Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very
interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive
and know anything at all.

So there!

Peace,

Andrew





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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a
concept.

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Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan.

What do you mean by conceptual?


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
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No, it's obviously conceptual.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


My arse

-Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM
To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 
To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


But it's just a record

-Original Message-
From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)

"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design
to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time"

This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where
you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being
received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment
other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense
these things cease to exist.

Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very
interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive
and know anything at all.

So there!

Peace,

Andrew





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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
No, it's obviously conceptual.

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From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 
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My arse

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To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 
To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


But it's just a record

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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)

"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design
to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time"

This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where
you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being
received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment
other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense
these things cease to exist.

Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very
interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive
and know anything at all.

So there!

Peace,

Andrew





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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 
To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


But it's just a record

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From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)

"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design
to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time"

This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where
you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being
received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment
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these things cease to exist.

Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very
interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive
and know anything at all.

So there!

Peace,

Andrew





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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
It's in the article, a Buster Keaton movie.

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From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2004 12:15 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill; Alex Bond; 313
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


What film do you speak of, Ian?

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what gets me is his workload, not only is he here there and everywhere and
releasing more records than anyone else he is now releasing a score for a
film in May!!.I mean is he sponsored by red bull or something :)

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 11:02 
To: Alex Bond; 313 
Cc: 
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> he's still talking a load of twaddle though - check the link.
>
> http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/article2836.html

I love this bit:

"We resolved the mastering with references to Classical Music. So
by,
lowering the overall level, we were able to conform to the format of
vinyl"

Ha ha - in other words: "we had to turn the level down so it'll be a
quiet
pressing" :)







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RE: (313) new theo parrish/rotating assembly album/movement cd

2004-04-07 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
It's his choice to do them though- and any risks he takes shouldn't be
passed on to his incredibly loyal customers, in any way, IMO.

-Original Message-
From: David Bate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2004 4:43 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new theo parrish/rotating assembly album/movement cd


Well, you have to remember, that with every Copyright violation that Theo
makes with Ugly Edits, he's risking $100,000 - $250,000 fine's per
infraction from the RIAA, so in reality, he's not charging enough to cover
his butt, as I doubt he's paying royalties on these.


Cheers Dave


>
> he could probs do it for that cos of the price he charged for the ugly
> edits
>
>
> :)
>
> robin...
>
> -> >just curious what people are paying for the triple pack vinyl.
> -> >email me privately if you wish.
> ->
> -> they're £17.99 here.
> ->
> -> which is pretty ok really, he must be losing a little cash
> -> on that, as it's
> -> three 12's, in three different sleeves which could have been
> -> sold for £8.49
> -> each, so I was pleasantly surprised - could have been alot worse.
> ->
> -> so - has anyone heard the movement cd?
> ->
> -> just wondering about the unreleased tracks - anyone heard
> -> any of those?
> -> alex

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RE: (313) london this weekend?

2004-04-07 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Hmmm, some Tech House guffness, per chance?

-Original Message-
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Sent: 07 April 2004 2:00 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Rc; 313
Subject: RE: (313) london this weekend?


Thursday is Joakim, Chicken Lips and Idjuy Boys at Ouch! @ The Key, and
Faith with ralph Laswon, Norman Jay, Unamobombers, Phil Asher and Maurice
Fulton at Faith @ The Egg.
There must be something on Friday too?

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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:53 AM
To: 'Rc'; 313
Subject: RE: (313) london this weekend?


Sat
Fabric w/ Hawtin
The End w/ Garnier

Sun
Cyclob & Louis Digital @ Rhythm Factory.

Sure there's more, can't remember off hand.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 07 April 2004 12:52 
To: 313
Subject: (313) london this weekend?


any party suggestions for a good friend who is in london this weekend -
assuming he's missed out on tickets to Lost?

ta
rc




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RE: (313) london this weekend?

2004-04-07 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Sat
Fabric w/ Hawtin
The End w/ Garnier

Sun
Cyclob & Louis Digital @ Rhythm Factory.

Sure there's more, can't remember off hand.

-Original Message-
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To: 313
Subject: (313) london this weekend?


any party suggestions for a good friend who is in london this weekend -
assuming he's missed out on tickets to Lost?

ta
rc



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RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-06 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I would love to know aswell.
James post seems pretty all-encompassing - I just don't want to believe it.

RB

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Subject: RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)


so how serious is this visa thing? I mean I am bookign my ticket to the
states just as a holiday goer
for the festival, what's the score there then?
 
cheers
Ian

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discussion)







>any experience with welding

they just want to know if you're qualified for the job

MEK




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when he played in brooklyn a few years back there was a nice size
turnout
for the night, at least by new york standards. maybe in europe he
gets
mobbed and followed by paparazzi. but what the hell, I-f can choose
to play
where and when he wants without owing me an explanation.

but i've got to say, visa issues wouldn't help. i was planning to
return to
new york for a visit in may - but the visa process isn't worth the
hassle -
i have to get a copy of any police record, be fingerprinted and
photographed, attend at interview, show all passports i've ever
held, fill
out a form listing all mititary training, any experience with
welding,
firearms, explosives etc., and the list continues. and when i arrive
at LAX
there is no guaraantee i'll be let in - they'll put me back on the
plane if
i have an unpaid parking fine in australia.
james
www.jbucknell.com
mp3 mixes

    
    

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Subject
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USA
   (was Movement I-F discussion)










How many times would you fly (in this case) from Holland to the
States, to
gigs where no one came to?
You'd get sick of it in the end, and would probably accept gigs on
the
basis
that they are at least gonna be worth your while

It's not exactly a new thing (decent artists bombing in the US)
anyway.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 05 April 2004 5:06
To: Steward, Tim
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F
discussion)



yeah but ferenc might think that's too much bother for the return he
gets so would rather put that effort elsewhere.

anyway you americans burn disco records in your stadiums...that irks
us
disco loving europeans. :) (and there's the detroit on-topicness
too)


robin...

Steward, Tim wrote:
> I also disagree - because a record label is responsible
> for marketing and promotion or the artist...being here
> in the US- Detroit to be exact... if artist don't choose
> to promote themselves in this market how do they expect
> people to know what they are about or trying to do..
> I'm just one of the lucky people who has a job that
> allows me to travel to other countries, but with the job
> industry I am sure that is rare for most people...
>
> Just thoughts...
>
> TS-1
>
> -Original Message-
  

RE: (313) Claude Young and MXF Pioneer in Berlin last Saturday

2004-04-06 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Ha!!
That message was from me, by the way. ;0)

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Sent: 05 April 2004 10:05 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: (313) Claude Young and MXF Pioneer in Berlin last Saturday


alex? u mean Ian :)

Radio:
It's been a while since you heard from me, but there's good reason!!!
Firstly, Wednesday 7th April brings Detroits' one and only:
CLAUDE YOUNG
..to Locked Grooves on Proton Radio.
Expect the unexpected
Claude is joined by your hosts Lee Bolton and myself.
www.protonradio.com/show.php?showid=22
www.lockedgrooves.org


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Subject: Re: (313) Claude Young and MXF Pioneer in Berlin last Saturday






what's the url for Proton Radio Alex?




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Well what can I say but the man sure knows his gadgets and as
the sets were all recorded  I hope to get these up (with his permission)
sometime in the next 2 weeks.

He used Ableton Live and the MXF Pioneer to amazing effect, dropping
new/old/quirky tracks
whislt using the sampling of like doctor who etc over the top. He said he
only
starting using it the night b4 but he new it inside out, well it seemed
that
way :)

The thing that really got me is that he was not totally laptop'd out he
used
the decks
as well as he said he feels he still needs to interact and with the mixer
and decks he
can. Also the pioneer has its own cross fader and with upto 8 storage banks
you can
basically mix 8 sounds and cut the tracks/loops/samples etc etc hopw you
would on a normal
mixer, I have to say I was very very impressed byt this piece of kit.

So remember to checkout his mix on Proton Radio this Wednesday, I am sure
it
will
bring back memories for me :)

Cheers
Ian
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RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
How many times would you fly (in this case) from Holland to the States, to
gigs where no one came to?
You'd get sick of it in the end, and would probably accept gigs on the basis
that they are at least gonna be worth your while

It's not exactly a new thing (decent artists bombing in the US) anyway.

-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 April 2004 5:06 
To: Steward, Tim
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)



yeah but ferenc might think that's too much bother for the return he 
gets so would rather put that effort elsewhere.

anyway you americans burn disco records in your stadiums...that irks us 
disco loving europeans. :) (and there's the detroit on-topicness too)


robin...

Steward, Tim wrote:
> I also disagree - because a record label is responsible 
> for marketing and promotion or the artist...being here
> in the US- Detroit to be exact... if artist don't choose
> to promote themselves in this market how do they expect 
> people to know what they are about or trying to do..
> I'm just one of the lucky people who has a job that 
> allows me to travel to other countries, but with the job
> industry I am sure that is rare for most people...
> 
> Just thoughts...
> 
> TS-1
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)
> 
> 
> Well, Ferenc's agent told me that he doesn't think the US audience
> understands what it is he's trying to do, or what he's about.
> 
> I disagree, of course, but he doesn't listen to me, obviously ;)
> 
> e
> 
> 
> 
>>
>>>he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again
>>
>>Did he state for what reason?
>>
>>This isn't the first time I've heard this and I'm sure many
>>other list members have heard artists say this.
>>
>>US artists who rarely play in the US or who leave the US to live elsewhere
>>because they are requested to play more often in other countries
>>and
>>DJs/musicicans from other countries that have played in the US but now
>>refuse to
>>
>>what reasons have other artists stated as their reason for immigrating or
>>refusing to play in the states?
>>
>>frustrates me that this happens (although in certain cases I understand)
>>
>>MEK
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RE: (313) UK SPAM Surgeon Cancelled

2004-04-02 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
UTTER C.UNTS!!!

-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 April 2004 3:32 
To: 313
Subject: (313) UK SPAM Surgeon Cancelled


Dear People Ov Dust,

Due to powers beyond our control and the powers that be, Sheffield Council
have decided to cancel the license for this event and will not let the event
go ahead without prosecuting us, the owners, the sound rig crew and the
DJ's.


We can only apologise and tell you how gutted we are...if you have a ticket
and want to get a refund, please send your ticket to:

Dust
PO BOX 3542
Sheffield 
S8 9WU
UK


And we'll refund your payment...

Once again, we are sorry about this but it's completely out of our hands and
all was well until 20mins ago. Help spread the word...

Gutted
Martin Dust



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RE: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes

2004-04-02 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I have Claude appearing on my radio show, next Wednesday 7th April.

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Sent: 02 April 2004 10:42 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes






I've still never heard Claude Young mix.

A friend brought me a copy of his DJ Kicks mix back from Thailand, but it's
a v.dodgy copy & not worth listening to.

The DJ Kicks mix must be pretty rare now.
Does anyone know of any good Claude mixes available to either buy or
download?



 

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 cc:

  02/04/2004 10:16   Fax to:

 Subject:  RE: (313) That
Friday Question
 





Claude Young

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Fri 02/04/2004 10:53
 To: 313
 Cc:
 Subject: (313) That Friday Question



 If I could blag a mix from anyone for Little D, who would you
have me blag?

 Martin









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RE: (313) Placid's April Fool Joke

2004-04-02 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
...and to think of how gullible ya'll are. ;0)

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Subject: Re: (313) Placid's April Fool Joke




To think of the false hope you gave me...

:)






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RE: (313) OT: Pre-Scion meetup?

2004-04-01 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
The surrounding area is a bit [EMAIL PROTECTED] - in all honesty the venue 
itself is
ideal.
Spacious, nicely lit, with plenty of quiet areas and cheap drinks.
I certainly don't intend on going anywhere else, and arriving early for this
is essential.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 April 2004 9:40 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) OT: Pre-Scion meetup?


Londoners et al.: Any talk of a pre-Scion meetup?  Preferably in a place
without pounding music, so (a) I can hear myself think; and (b) bring
the almost-missus along - before packing her off back to the rental
flat so I can go off to the Scion gig?  ;)

(Just my luck - most beautiful day of the year over here yesterday,
  and got in too late to enjoy any of it!  Back to the drizzle today
  I see, oh well ... )

- Greg



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RE: (313) dutchie DEMF

2004-03-31 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
hehehe, were you an "off topic moaner", Jochem?

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From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2004 4:35 
To: Marsel // Nomorewords.net
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) dutchie DEMF


yy, I´ll be with you in 30 minutes hun...on my way to the sub...

leather? spandex?

-Original Message-
From: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 31 maart 2004 17:33
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) dutchie DEMF



and what about the live sex shows ross 154 used to do?



-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Verzonden: woensdag 31 maart 2004 17:25
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) dutchie DEMF


And i remember something about connection machine returning to active duty

thats pretty interesting too, if memory serves me well for a change they do
livesets(used to..)

Aardvark
Peel seamus
Aroy Dee

just too mention some compadres

and really, check that Corey-stuff, got an incredible band too!

-Original Message-
From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 31 maart 2004 14:18
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Classics not Classics V 3


While Chicago Trax and DJ International were dominating the US house
scene in the late 80's, lots of of great tracks on small independant
labels were putting out tracks that i think never got the recognition
they deserved...

On this mix i try to bring unkonwn chicago trax from the late 80's early
90's that deserve to be rediscovered..afew you will know..hopefully the
majority you will not..

http://www.acid-house.net/mixes.html

Sorry for the slow connection, but my server has had enough of me going
over bandwidth by huuuge amounts every month...

Also available on soulseek

Will be doing afew cd's aswell


enjoy

placid

ps - Don't pm me or inform me that u know some of the track and the were
huuuge.. a couple of things i put on there cos i didnt have them in any
other mixes.



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RE: (313) Discogs.com question

2004-03-29 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Yes, very, very common indeed.

Check my profile for a good way to dis-courage people from doing this (it
still happens though.)

http://www.discogs.com/~Mr.Blackman

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Subject: (313) Discogs.com question






I've started building my collection on discogs and just got an email from
someone wanting to buy one of my records - is this common?
None of my records on there are for sale, I just use the website as a
back-up to my library database I have at home.

So do people use Discogs alot to sell and trade?

MEK



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RE: (313) kraftwerk? anyone?

2004-03-25 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Have you just been released from Prison?

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Sent: 25 March 2004 4:26 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) kraftwerk? anyone?


say hello to a complete moron1

the first and probably last chance to see kraftwerk, and i blew it
wtf im such a retard its sold out by now..

so if anyone has 2 tickets left for the show on 29march in holland, plz 
contact me offlist..
and sorry for posting this on teh 313mailing... but hell, it are the 
godfathers, I HAVE to see them...

thanks in advance.



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RE: (313) London Party - Lost

2004-03-25 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
He will probably DJ.
That night he was awesome - shame that Hawtin played one of the most boring
sets ever, immediately afterwards.

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Sent: 24 March 2004 6:05 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) London Party - Lost


wow! can't wait to see suburban knight - I was completely blown away when I
saw him last at LOST doing a live set at The Works - what an amazing night
that was - put detroit techno into a completely new light for me.
anyone know if he will be live or dj set?

matt :)


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RE: (313) Suburban Knight

2004-03-24 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
You know that. 

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From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2004 4:35 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Suburban Knight


whats up list-

I've always liked James Pennington's (SKs) style of mixing. He ads a  
signature touch to those old UR records. He breathes new life into  
those very old tracks whenever he gets down. He has an uncanny sense of  
timing and knows exactly when to drop in a new track every time. A very  
controlled DJ who is not afraid to experiment.

Take care UK'ers, enjoy one of UR's best.

-jasonk





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> Looking forward to seeing SK after a lengthy absence.
>
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> Sent: 24 March 2004 4:11
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> got this mail through...
> LOST
> presents
> COSMIC ENTITY
>
> EASTER SATURDAY 10 APRIL
>
> featuring
> STEVE BICKNELL
> + guests
> JUAN ATKINS - (METROPLEX, DETROIT) - exclusive U.K. date
> SUBURBAN KNIGHT - (UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE, DETROIT) - exclusive U.K.  
> date
> KIM BILIR (CLUBTRACKS)
>
> good huh?
> _
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RE: (313) London Party - Lost

2004-03-24 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Looking forward to seeing SK after a lengthy absence.

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Sent: 24 March 2004 4:11 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) London Party - Lost


got this mail through...
LOST
presents
COSMIC ENTITY

EASTER SATURDAY 10 APRIL

featuring
STEVE BICKNELL
+ guests
JUAN ATKINS - (METROPLEX, DETROIT) - exclusive U.K. date
SUBURBAN KNIGHT - (UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE, DETROIT) - exclusive U.K. date
KIM BILIR (CLUBTRACKS)

good huh?
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RE: (313) what is Detroit techno ...

2004-03-23 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
;0)

The bit I thought was ludicrous was the bit where anything that isn't 313
derived is not classed as techno.



-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 March 2004 1:41 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) what is Detroit techno ...


No it's not! You haven't seen some of my posts from the 
mid-nineties... ;-)

There used to be a time when there was no real distinction 
between "trance" and "techno" - "trancey" was an adjective 
people sometimes used, but it could apply to tracks by the 
likes of Richie Hawtin as much as tracks from European 
producers. It was only in the early nineties that I came 
across people referring to "trance" as a standalone type of 
music, distinct from "techno".

All I'm saying is that this process could end up repeating 
itself; and that, if it did, one of the most obvious schisms 
that could take place might be the complete splitting off of 
"schranz" from "techno" in terms of how people talk about 
music.

I don't reckon that's very ludicrous - or at least not by my 
standards anyway!

Brendan

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 23 March 2004 13:37
> To: Brendan Nelson; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) what is Detroit techno ...
> 
> 
> "I'd quite like it if one day all the looped-banger stuff was just 
> known as "schranz", and the word "techno" became widely accepted 
> as referring mainly to 313-derived stuff... similar to what happened 
> with trance when it split off from techno."
> 
> 
> That's the most ludicrous thing you've ever typed!



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RE: (313) what is Detroit techno ...

2004-03-23 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
"I'd quite like it if one day all the looped-banger stuff was just 
known as "schranz", and the word "techno" became widely accepted 
as referring mainly to 313-derived stuff... similar to what happened 
with trance when it split off from techno."


That's the most ludicrous thing you've ever typed!

-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 March 2004 1:32 
To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) what is Detroit techno ...


> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 March 2004 17:36
>
> ... I never even use the term 'Detroit Techno', I just say 
> 'Techno'...

I'd quite like it if one day all the looped-banger stuff was just 
known as "schranz", and the word "techno" became widely accepted 
as referring mainly to 313-derived stuff... similar to what happened 
with trance when it split off from techno.
 
> Detroit techno for me seems to _take_more_chances_, be more 
> 'committed', more balls, more funky, or harder, or softer, and 
> that's without ruling out other locations (Brendan mentioned 
> Black Dog, easily among my top 5), and I think to fully get the 
> message of that across you need about 15 records, to show the 
> breadth of the sound.
> 
> Wonder what records they would be?

Hmmm, 15 records that reflect the breadth and depth of Detroit 
techno's various strands...

The first one I'd choose is the track that's closest to my original 
understanding of what Detroit techno was before I'd ever heard it, 
and a track that, for me, still sits pretty much dead-centre of the 
whole thing - "It Is What It Is" by Rhythim is Rhythim. I think you 
could safely say that if a listener violently objected to that 
particular track, it's unlikely that any form of Detroit techno 
would particularly appeal to them.

To cover the harder side of the music, I'd pick three stalwarts of 
pretty much any 313ers' record collection: "Seawolf", "Star Dancer" 
and "Step to Enchantment". "At Les", "Icon", "It's All Gone 
Pearshaped" (not actually from Detroit but on a Detroit label) could 
sum up the more ambient and melancholic aspect of the music.

That's seven tracks and still quite a lot of stuff to cover, so you 
could chuck in some Robert Hood ("Rhythm" and "Explain The Style" 
would be my minimal picks), some Moodymann ("Don't Be Misled", "The 
Day We Lost The Soul") and then round off the selection with some 
choice Drexciyan moments ("Aqua Worm Hole", "The Journey Home") and 
maybe a spot of Aux 88 ("Let It Ride", "My Aux Mind").

So all in all that's the fifteen tracks *I'd* probably select in an 
attempt to convey what the term "Detroit techno" means to me. I'm sure 
others can think of a better selection though!

Brendan



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RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy

2004-03-22 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
IMO, no, not the way he does it. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 March 2004 3:06 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Peteri,
Jochem; robin
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy


Adding drums and FX is more than re-editing though innit?

-Original Message-
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 3:05 PM
To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Peteri, Jochem; robin
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy


Nah, I would say they are re-edits, simply because the structure of the
songs rarely change - he "merely" adds drums, fx, etc, without completely
changing how the song sounds, to give it that Surge vibe.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 March 2004 2:59 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Peteri, Jochem; robin
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy


They're not really re-edits though are they? I would call them remixes cos
he adds stuff to the track rather than just extending it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:58 PM
To: Peteri, Jochem; robin
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy


ok but do you not think Surgeon adds his personal touch to the tracks he
re-edits?

-Original Message- 
From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Mon 22/03/2004 14:54 
To: robin 
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 
Subject: RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy



A re-edit and an new track are different worlds... It´s the thought
that counts... And i cannot imagine how you can express anything personal
with an edit, which is still what i look for in a track.


-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: maandag 22 maart 2004 15:51
To: 313
Subject: (313) Re-Edit frenzy




OK, so the world is awash with re-edit 12s.

Are we seeing the breakdown of boundaries (due to technology)
between
the roles of producer/remixer/dj?

I think this may be a good thing.

What do people think?


robin...


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RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy

2004-03-22 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Nah, I would say they are re-edits, simply because the structure of the
songs rarely change - he "merely" adds drums, fx, etc, without completely
changing how the song sounds, to give it that Surge vibe.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 22 March 2004 2:59 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Peteri, Jochem; robin
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy


They're not really re-edits though are they? I would call them remixes cos
he adds stuff to the track rather than just extending it.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:58 PM
To: Peteri, Jochem; robin
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy


ok but do you not think Surgeon adds his personal touch to the tracks he
re-edits?

-Original Message- 
From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Mon 22/03/2004 14:54 
To: robin 
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 
Subject: RE: (313) Re-Edit frenzy



A re-edit and an new track are different worlds... It´s the thought
that counts... And i cannot imagine how you can express anything personal
with an edit, which is still what i look for in a track.


-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: maandag 22 maart 2004 15:51
To: 313
Subject: (313) Re-Edit frenzy




OK, so the world is awash with re-edit 12s.

Are we seeing the breakdown of boundaries (due to technology)
between
the roles of producer/remixer/dj?

I think this may be a good thing.

What do people think?


robin...


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RE: (313) Mills in LA last weekend

2004-03-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
That's a cool mix, but more than a year old

-Original Message-
From: Charles Coke-Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 10:08 
To: Andrew
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Mills in LA last weekend


There is a nice little Mills mix here which hasnt been mentioned...

http://www.electronicdir.com



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RE: (313) A Friday Question

2004-03-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Far too many to mention, but some are absolutely unforgivable.

I believe Rob Taylor is the biggest offender, however.

-Original Message-
From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 9:59 
To: '313'
Subject: (313) A Friday Question


Which record has you sold/exchanged and now regret ?

I Bought Another Side by Fingers Inc when it first came out and loved it
(tho I was a soul/rare groove boy at the time). Found Amnesia by Mr Fingers
and bought on sight thinking I would like it too. But at the time I just
didn't get it. Couldn't find the vibe in it. I needed vocals to get into the
music, I think. Ended up swapping it for a Peter Tosh album after it just
sat in a crate for a year or so.  

How I wish I had kept it !!

Cheers

Rav



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RE: (313) Mills in LA last weekend

2004-03-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
There is one on the Fuse website (www.fuse.be) which is excellent. Very
recent, and lots of abstract techno.

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Sent: 19 March 2004 9:05 
To: 313@hyperreal.org; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Mills in LA last weekend


anyone DL the set from Spain off Boxer yesterday?? if not I would reccomend,
very nice..
 
also I tried to DL some other sets but had problems :(
 
Also theres another great Mills set on soulseek I forget the name now , Rama
- something..sorry :(
its in spain as well 28-02 I think...

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 19/03/2004 02:05 
To: 313@hyperreal.org 
Cc: 
Subject: (313) Mills in LA last weekend



The 313 contingent was a little short on the ground last Saturday.
(Which seems strange, since he's either never spun in LA before,
  or, if he has, it was at some event almost 10 years ago that I
  can't remember having happened)

Jeff played for just under 2 1/2 hours, dropped some choice old
skool chestnuts (early UR, etc.) here and there, and played a mostly
Millsian set (surely he must've filed it with the U.S. Patent Office
by now), spiced up with 2 Wizard interludes, one at 3 AM for aboutd
15 minutes and the other for the last 10 minutes.  Funnily enough,
the first one totally lost him the dancefloor (yes, I live in a
VERY LAME CITY) so he had to go back to the minimal/pounding to get
them back.  Sheesh ...

But he closed the set with A Homeboy, A Hippie And A Funki Dredd's
"Total Confusion", which was the first Techno record I ever heard,
so hey, he's A-OK with me  :-)

I got hooked up with an "Exhibitionist" DVD afterwards so I got
my admission price's worth.

ObJoke: "See ``The Passion Of The Christ''?  Listen, if I wanted
  to see a bad actor get nailed, I'd watch the Paris Hilton
  video again."



- Greg







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RE: (313) things / BC re-releases

2004-03-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Perhaps starting an interesting topic of discussion yourself would be a
positive step to take?

-Original Message-
From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 8:37 
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) things / BC re-releases


David Powers wrote on Thu, 18 Mar 2004 about following:

> I'm sorry, BUT if people are going to keep posting this kind of stuff  
> (JOKES) I'm going to be unsubscribing here soon.  I've been on here 
> about 5 years, but lately it's just too much...  to read all these off 
> topic emails all the time.  

I've been really thinking the same. Just too much uninteresting "jokes" 
and one-liners. getting boring.. so, ANYONE know 313-related list that 
has some actual information and good discussion? i'd like to subscribe. 

5 years on this list seem to be enough; this used to be a great list 
with great people. i'm gonna wait a few days if anyone responds to my 
leo anibaldi -query and unsubscribe. 



sakke
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Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
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RE: (313) Mills in LA last weekend

2004-03-19 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
"See ``The Passion Of The Christ''?  Listen, if I wanted
  to see a bad actor get nailed, I'd watch the Paris Hilton
  video again."


lol!

Brilliant - you've started my day at work marvelously. :0D

-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 2:06 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Mills in LA last weekend


The 313 contingent was a little short on the ground last Saturday.
(Which seems strange, since he's either never spun in LA before,
  or, if he has, it was at some event almost 10 years ago that I
  can't remember having happened)

Jeff played for just under 2 1/2 hours, dropped some choice old
skool chestnuts (early UR, etc.) here and there, and played a mostly
Millsian set (surely he must've filed it with the U.S. Patent Office
by now), spiced up with 2 Wizard interludes, one at 3 AM for aboutd
15 minutes and the other for the last 10 minutes.  Funnily enough,
the first one totally lost him the dancefloor (yes, I live in a
VERY LAME CITY) so he had to go back to the minimal/pounding to get
them back.  Sheesh ...

But he closed the set with A Homeboy, A Hippie And A Funki Dredd's
"Total Confusion", which was the first Techno record I ever heard,
so hey, he's A-OK with me  :-)

I got hooked up with an "Exhibitionist" DVD afterwards so I got
my admission price's worth.

ObJoke: "See ``The Passion Of The Christ''?  Listen, if I wanted
  to see a bad actor get nailed, I'd watch the Paris Hilton
  video again."



- Greg



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RE: (313) no sequencers

2004-03-17 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Well, you don't know that for certain, it's a very speculative point. 


-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 March 2004 11:05 
To: 'Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)'; 'Peteri, Jochem'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) no sequencers




-> Or it could be an artists desire to try and create something 
-> different that
-> doesn't get restrained by certain factors? Or maybe they 
-> can't afford a
-> sequencer?

heh yeah right, anyone who's serious about electronic music can afford a
sequencer if they really want one (mmt8/atari? or even an rz1)

-> "It kinda feels like a "look mum I can really play" statement."

yeah what bugs here is the implication that music made with a sequencer is
somehow not quite music.

they might not mean it like that tho and probs just using that approach as a
gimmick...(acid brass anyone? :))

anyway...back to the quietness...

robin...



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RE: (313) no sequencers

2004-03-17 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
"It kinda feels like a "look mum I can really play" statement."


Or it could be an artists desire to try and create something different that
doesn't get restrained by certain factors? Or maybe they can't afford a
sequencer?

-Original Message-
From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 March 2004 10:28 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) no sequencers


The point is that if you don´t use a sequencer this is not good or bad. It´s
not like fruit where no pesticides is good. It kinda feels like a "look mum
I can really play" statement.

And besides that, its always pretty easy to feel good about not doing
something, but a lot harder to do something and feel good about it.

I a shorter form this would make a great T-shirt

-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 17 maart 2004 11:19
To: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) no sequencers


Isn't that a little extreme? I love sequencing myself and I like sequenced
music too but I don't condemn people who aren't into it.

In life, I find it tends to help oneself and the world in general if one
does not advocate incomprehensible fascism about trivial matters or even
important ones.

'But that's just me.'

Ken Odeluga

>-Original Message-
>From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:13 AM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: (313) no sequencers
>
>
>I´m sorry, but if you use no sequencer and think this is something
>to shout about i think your a dickhead
>
>but that´s just me...
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RE: (313) Friday Question

2004-03-12 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I believe it's on the radio 1 site for download.

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Sent: 12 March 2004 2:53 
To: 313
Subject: RE: (313) Friday Question


richie h vs surgeon vs luke hess

On another note, did anyone catch richie hawtin on John Peel during the
week, wednesday 10pm-12pm? I meant to record it, but screwed up, missed it
completely, rats.

N

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Subject: RE: (313) Friday Question


Mills vs Pullen vs May
 
Plastikman Live
 
Predicatable I know but that would be my dream night...
 
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From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 12/03/2004 11:24 
To: 313 
Cc: 
Subject: (313) Friday Question



You've got an unlimited budget and a great club/PA. Which 3 artists
do you
book to play back to back and which one live act do you go for?

DJ Di'jital vs Shake vs Surgeon

Reeko live

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RE: (313) samples

2004-03-12 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Absolutely, but just because the song is the worst in the world, doesn't
mean that it doesn't have the best sample in the world!
(Not saying it is THE BEST, but you get my point. Hopefully.) :0)

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Subject: RE: (313) samples


Nuthin really! 'I can't kick this feeling' is still amongst the best house
tracks ever recorded (imo). Jut somewhat taken aback that it does owe rather
a lot to one of the worst tracks ever recorded (imo!)

k

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>What's your point, Ken?
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>moodymann - i can't kick this feeling(planet e) ->
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>DJ Hell (used the same track for 'Cop') But KDJ?!?!?!?!?!?
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RE: (313) samples

2004-03-12 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
What's your point, Ken?

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moodymann - i can't kick this feeling(planet e) -> 
. intro for barry manilow - copacabana

DJ Hell (used the same track for 'Cop') But KDJ?!?!?!?!?!?

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RE: (313) samples

2004-03-12 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Ditto. That's kind of what I said.

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Subject: RE: (313) samples


Pretty much every Purposemaker track is based around a looped sample. I
always thought that was kind of the point of those records. I don't hear
much evidence of samples on Axis tracks though...

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Indeed - never thought of Mills as using that many samples




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RE: (313) samples

2004-03-12 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Interesting, that they were mostly PM tracks.

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Subject: RE: (313) samples


Indeed - never thought of Mills as using that many samples

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some of these are mind boggling - thanks for that.

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) samples



for other discoveries..

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Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: (313) samples


I didn't realise Fix - Flash was based round a Funkadelic/Parliament sample
until very recently

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) samples

anyone else that can think of a record that's based on a sample, but used so
well, that you don't identify it as a sample?

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RE: (313) samples

2004-03-12 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
some of these are mind boggling - thanks for that.

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for other discoveries..

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I didn't realise Fix - Flash was based round a Funkadelic/Parliament sample
until very recently

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Subject: (313) samples

anyone else that can think of a record that's based on a sample, but used so
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(313) O/T: Ghent This Weekend

2004-03-12 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Just a swift note, would be great to see any Belgian 313's.
Does anyone know of anything else going on this weekend?

SoundAttack presents... 
Saturday 13/03/04 @ Nebo Boat (Ghent, Belgium) 

techno and beyond by: 


JORIS VOORN (NL) 
(Sino, Wolfskuil) - 1st time in Belgium 

RYAN BLACKMAN (UK) 
(Flux, Proton, Samurai) - 1st time in Belgium 

Kim Kurz & Seba Lecompte LivePA 
(B - SoundAttack) 

Rezza vs Shimakum 
(B - Evolv, Mechanizm) vs (B - SoundAttack) 

Andreas Lang 
(B - SoundAttack) 

Semtec vs di'ji 
(B - SoundAttack) 


Doors: 22h00 - Entrance: 8EUR 
Location: Nebo Boat - Stapelplein, Ghent - Belgium 
Follow directions from Dampoort 

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RE: (313) Power Ballads Re: (313) No Subject

2004-03-11 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
haha, I had absolutely no idea - good effort man!

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From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 March 2004 4:43 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Power Ballads Re: (313) No Subject


fraid sojust rearranged the samples and threw it through my magic FX
sequence...

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Sent: donderdag 11 maart 2004 17:42
To: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Power Ballads Re: (313) No Subject


All of it?

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From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 March 2004 4:38 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Power Ballads Re: (313) No Subject


check stars on my peacefrog "loving u" release

it´s all duran duran samples, mad props to the waffled hair guys
(night boat, from their first album. now there´s some 313 flavour from the
island peepz!)

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Sent: donderdag 11 maart 2004 17:26
To: robin; Robert Taylor
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Power Ballads Re: (313) No Subject


I am a great fan of Duran Duran..and I am hungry like a wolf :) must be my
childhood.

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Sent: Thu 11/03/2004 16:05 
To: Robert Taylor 
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 
Subject: (313) Power Ballads Re: (313) No Subject




interesting you should say that rob as it is possible to to do a
beatmatched set of such tunes as the drum beats and tempos are more
or
less the same on a lot of these releases. :)

i'll shut up now (i never thougt i'd ever see a thread on Power
Ballads
on 313!!)

robin...

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RE: (313) Power Ballads Re: (313) No Subject

2004-03-11 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
All of it?

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From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 March 2004 4:38 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Power Ballads Re: (313) No Subject


check stars on my peacefrog "loving u" release

it´s all duran duran samples, mad props to the waffled hair guys
(night boat, from their first album. now there´s some 313 flavour from the
island peepz!)

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I am a great fan of Duran Duran..and I am hungry like a wolf :) must be my
childhood.

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Sent: Thu 11/03/2004 16:05 
To: Robert Taylor 
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 
Subject: (313) Power Ballads Re: (313) No Subject




interesting you should say that rob as it is possible to to do a
beatmatched set of such tunes as the drum beats and tempos are more
or
less the same on a lot of these releases. :)

i'll shut up now (i never thougt i'd ever see a thread on Power
Ballads
on 313!!)

robin...

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RE: (313) need a new mixer. advice please!

2004-03-10 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I've used them, and they're horrible. Totally un-aesthetic, bad components,
sound, build, everything.

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Sent: 10 March 2004 5:07 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); jurren baars; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) need a new mixer. advice please!


At 12:02 PM 3/10/2004, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote:
>That would be my recomendation to avoid, but hey ho.

Whyfor? I have never actually talked to anyone who has owned (or even 
used!) one.


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RE: (313) need a new mixer. advice please!

2004-03-10 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Sorry, but NO! NO!!! NO!! That mixer is utter, utter sh*te.

My recomendation would be a Technics, or something equally less gimmicky.

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Sent: 10 March 2004 5:02 
To: jurren baars; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) need a new mixer. advice please!


ok well I have just had a friend who bought a beiheringer DJX700?? for only
250euros...it has effects on it but I don't much about itmaybe check it
out..hope this helps

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From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 16:54 
To: 313@hyperreal.org 
Cc: 
Subject: (313) need a new mixer. advice please!




so i bought new cartridges and needles for my turntables, but my
records
still sound like crap.

then yesterday i decided to plug one of my turntables directly into
my
amplifier to record some records for a friend, and immediately
noticed to
extreme difference in sound. so i decided to start looking around
for a
new/newish mixer. [the old one is... old. was used in a bar for a
couple of
years, before someone gave it to me. half the channel aren't even
working.]

anyone got any pointers?
the price plays a huge factor. so no a&h recommendations (400 euro's
tops).

jurren

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RE: (313) need a new mixer. advice please!

2004-03-10 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
That would be my recomendation to avoid, but hey ho.

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To: jurren baars; 313@hyperreal.org
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At 11:54 AM 3/10/2004, jurren baars wrote:
>the price plays a huge factor. so no a&h recommendations (400 euro's tops).

try a behringer. i have a behringer non-dj mixer which i love. i hear their 
customer service is quite lacking though (from a guy who sells behringer 
stuff to people no less)


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RE: (313) Techno's Voice

2004-03-10 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Was that the only Vox in the song?

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Sent: 10 March 2004 3:39 
To: DelCimmuto; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Techno's Voice


Anyone know what that track is called.

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Sent: 10 March 2004 15:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Techno's Voice


what about the weird song hawtin played at Jak a few years ago, where either
the track or the record slowed down with a girl saying (called you
callled yu)

it was really creepy and got real slow, then he let things take off again
and I remember the bass distorting my vision.

thank you,

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Katrin Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: (313) Techno's Voice


> my fav phone call tune is Green Velvet's Answering MachineI love it!
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 14:26
> To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
> Cc:
> Subject: AW: (313) Techno's Voice
>
>
>
> Weird, it's always on the radio here (which is probably why I so strongly
> dislike it - they never leave you alone to let you discover music, it's
just
> pushed onto you whether you're in the mood for some Babybabybaby business
or
> not) and it has this breakdown after the second chorus because then she
> decides to take affirmative action and phone the guy (something a girl
> wouldn't do, normally, but hey, it's kinda crazehhh)
>
> Blurb! This so gets me ranting.
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 15:21
> An: 313@hyperreal.org
> Betreff: RE: (313) Techno's Voice
>
> Katrin said:
> Hehe I got that text (it's the original text as
> sung/pouted/shallalalalad in the song by Alicia Keys) from a lyric page.
> It's that bad. But it's perfect to transport that cheeseyness into video
> format without putting any effort in it which makes it perfectly
> marketable... Never seen the video though, haven't got a television.
> 
>
> Damn! I've just been hearing the radio version, it must be edited! I just
> hear it kick stright into the first verse, man it's an amazing song. I
just
> love that down-scale, the hook, her voice, and the weird twinkly pianos
used
> in it (big up Kanye). It's just come on the radio too!
>
> Total video tangent there anyway, sorry!
>
> Respect,
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
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RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?

2004-03-10 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Blackwater is hideously over-played, though.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 
To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?


is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it
either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is  soaring,
beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :)

-Original Message- 
From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 
To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' 
Cc: 
Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?



I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would
ever
evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it.



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01
An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit'
Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?

YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES!

My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the
same
emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in
a song
like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and
melancholy.

-Original Message-
From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?


Well every time I mention a hip-hop/R&B CD here Carl Craig ends up
charting
it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from
RZA
distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West
productions
like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave
incidentally) or
Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb.

> i gotta debate you there.
> i haven't heard the whole album but..
> kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy-
easily
> the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music.
>
> now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi
> hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has
more in
> common with carl craig than public enemy
>
> anyone?
>
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
>
>> It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye
West
>> album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus
Walks.
>> The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint
template -
>> and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid.
>>
>> > as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack
on
>> > Kanzleramt. especially "mr mean" and "halflife." the combo of
>> > "tough" stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in
general,
>> > pretty unbeatable, imo.
>> >
>> > as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and
the
>> > Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to
give
>> > them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's
"Sound
>> > in Time," completely amazing start to finish.
>> >
>> > not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records,
but
>> > those are the things i'm into right now.
>> >
>> > also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning,
largely
>> > guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in
urbana
>> > last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is
saying a
>> > lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient
show.
>> >
>> > eric
>> >
>> > On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote:
>> >
>> >> sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music
>> >> that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place
to
>> >> ask than here.
>> >>
>> >> as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile
>> >> Recordings and i'm loving them both.  buy on sight as far as
i'm
>> >> concerned.
>> >>
>> >> playing right now: Drexciya "Digital Tsunami"
>> >>
>> >> later y'alls
>> >>
>> >> t
>> >>
>> >
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RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?

2004-03-09 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Yeah, Beautification is an amazing track, can't wait to drop that one soon.
Other stuff he has done, of significance (to me) was Sunstone, also on PF.
Lush deep tech, really atmospheric.
I am also quite fond of his track "Blue" - much more "straight up" but still
very good on Ian Pooleys "Strive" label.

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Sent: 09 March 2004 11:02 
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; synthetic tom;
313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?


that peacefrog 10.100 comp is criminal, so much amazing electronic 
music on one release, but then with a back catalogue like theirs how 
could they go wrong?

I'd never heard David Alvarado before, but really liked the two 
tracks on that comp that he is involved in ('Beautification' 
literally dropped my jaw the first time I heard it). Can anyone 
recommend any other tracks by him?

Sorry, I think he's from LA not Detroit ;)

At 10:29 am + 9/3/04, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote:
>RP 12 - "Tobacco Ties" is keeping me smiling at the moment, as is Peacefrog
>10.100 album.
>
>Quite mellow for me, all good.
>
>RB
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 09 March 2004 10:20
>To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
>
>
>Jonas Berring's "Emballages" EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord
>sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force
>Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well.
>
>An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is
Paul
>St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP
>and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord
>releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it
>down.
>
>Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :)
>
>Brendan
>www.lunarselector.com
>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42
>>  To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>  Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
>>
>>
>>  sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that
>>  i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than
>>  here.
>>
>>  as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile
>>  Recordings and
>>  i'm loving them both.  buy on sight as far as i'm concerned.
>>
>>  playing right now: Drexciya "Digital Tsunami"
>>
>>  later y'alls
>>
>>  t
>>
>>
>
>
>
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RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?

2004-03-09 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
RP 12 - "Tobacco Ties" is keeping me smiling at the moment, as is Peacefrog
10.100 album.

Quite mellow for me, all good.

RB

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From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 March 2004 10:20 
To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?


Jonas Berring's "Emballages" EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord
sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force
Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well.

An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul
St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP
and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord
releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it
down.

Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :)

Brendan
www.lunarselector.com

> -Original Message-
> From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
> 
> 
> sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that 
> i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than 
> here.
> 
> as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile 
> Recordings and 
> i'm loving them both.  buy on sight as far as i'm concerned.
> 
> playing right now: Drexciya "Digital Tsunami"
> 
> later y'alls
> 
> t
> 
> 



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RE: (313) I need some good sounds

2004-03-08 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I believe he still looks.

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Sent: 08 March 2004 11:11 
To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; Robert Taylor;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) I need some good sounds


is Max really ex 313? didn't know that :(

-Original Message- 
From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Mon 08/03/2004 10:45 
To: 'Robert Taylor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: RE: (313) I need some good sounds



I thought id plug into this mix for a little bit and catch the rest
at home
tonight. Now I got the 'o ill just listen to one more tune and
unplug'... i
cant unplug... nice mix...

Rav

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Sent: 06 March 2004 11:09
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) I need some good sounds


Dunno if you're stilll looking but have you heard this yet?
http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2004
from ex-313 bloke Max Duley
Tracklisting:
Jeff Mills The FearAs We Know It Axis
Plastikman Rekall NovaMute
Mark Broom Funked Up Pure Plastic
Maurizio Domina (Carl Craig's Mind mix) Maurizio
Robert Hood Loft Logistic
Moodymann Silence In The Secret Garden Peacefrog
Inner City Praise (Mayday mix) Ten
Shawn Rudiman Sexy Machines Integrated
Underground Resistance The Clouds Shockwave
Robert Hood Stereotype M-Plant
The Vision Detroit: One Circle Metroplex
Der Zyklus Formenverwandler Gigolo
UR Codebreaker Underground Resistance
DJ 3000 Clutch MoTech
The Martian The Voice Of Grandmother Red Planet
Robert Hood The Grey Area M-Plant
Arne Weinberg Black Flower Keynote
Terrace Bassi[n]c remix DJAX-UP-BEATS
Drexciya Aquarazorda Submerge
Inigo Kennedy Krunch Molecular
Model 500 Warning R&S
Stephen Brown Hard Times DJAX-UP-BEATS
X-103 Tephra (Under) Axis
Claude Young Reality (1) DJAX-UP-BEATS
Dopplereffekt Myon-Neutrino Gigolo
Drexciya Birth Of New Life Tresor
Digital Justice Theme From It's All Gone Pear Shaped Rob's Records
Nation 2 Nation Big Stone Lake Underground Resistance
Moodymann Back Again For The First Time? Peacefrog
Urban Tribe Nebula Mo'Wax
Kenny Larkin Tedra Warp
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Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:35 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) I need some good sounds






hit me up with something funky something techno

any mix will do
(has to be online - not Soulseek)

thanks

MEK



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RE: (313) first techno record

2004-03-04 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
YES 

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Sent: 04 March 2004 4:39 
To: 313
Subject: RE: (313) first techno record


Roland Rat - "Rat Rappin" (1984)

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 March 2004 16:32
> To: placid; 313
> Subject: Re: (313) first techno record
> 
> 
> 
> Clockwork Orange OST 1972
> Kraftwerk Autobahn August 25th 1978
> Cabs - Extended Play 1978
> 
> 4/3/04 4:31 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > Rhythim is rhythim - the dance  89
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 04 March 2004 15:58
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: (313) first techno record
> > 
> > Just out of interestWhat was the first techno record 
> you bought ?
> > 
> > Mine was Inner City - Big Fun double packed with an Album 
> of remixes. 88
> > ?? 
> > 
> > Man that makes me feel old.
> > 
> > Thnks
> > 
> > Rav
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



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