[313] Norm Talley in Portland...
One of detroit's finest in house music graced our presence here in portland oregonnorm talley came and gave us some detroit deepnessit was a good show (although the turntables had problems with skipping) i really enjoy norm talley he was one of my favorite dj's that i saw on the c-pop stage last year at the DEMF. he handed out LOTS of cd's to everyone...i got 2 they are very very good...i hope he is playing somewhere this year around the DEMF...does anyone know if he is playing??? but overall i had a good time and i even talked to a fellow 313er michael www.renegaderhythms.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
well last i did check this is called the Detroit Electronic Music Festival.cajmere and roy davis jr. are not the only chicago artists playing check gene ferris, boo williams or dj TRAXX who is closing the underground stage...sorry to say but there is no playa hatin not everyone can have it there wayi think there are alot of good things going on this year for the DEMF if you wanna bitch about it then don't go.. michael www.renegaderhythms.com --- Joel Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is Cajmere performing at 2:00? It's just a simple case of playa hatin on Chicago artists. Ciao. - Original Message - From: Holly MacDonald-Korth and why is roy davis jr playing at 12:00? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule
well i know its going to be a bit for the record , but i got a copy from a friend for x-mas i think it will be worth the waitthere are so many good mixes on this re-mixi think my favorite is the scan 7 mixthe adult mixmarty bonds mixectomorph and of course mike grants mix, but all are very nicedetroit did it again in my opinion.we just brought scan 7 to perform live out here in portland oregon recently and i was hoping he would play it live , but he did'nt ...anyway for those who have not heard it yet run out and buy it right away.. GREAT RE-MIXES OF A GREAT RECORD!!! keep em coming detroit michael mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com --- Puzzlebox Records [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone we at Puzzlebox would like to first wish everyone a great New year. And much success for 2002 Shari Vari 20002 Remixes and Original mix release has unfourtanetly been held up do to Mastering Problems. We regret the set back but we are moving ahead with a mid feb release date. We NOW KNOW HOW OTHER LABELS FEEL like Southern Outpost, Twilight 76, and Moods and Grooves. Its a shame you pay good money for so callled proffesional work from a certain mastering company and you get this sort of thing happening far to much . Needlesss to say we feel loyal to this company but because of so many eras we at puzzzlebox are on a mission for 20002 and are moving on to a new mastering company. pEACE look out for the Giggolo remix also in feb. For Distribution info go to www.optic-universe.com Puzzlebox Records - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule
yea, i have heard that most peoples promos have some sort of technical problemlot of them skip . my brothers copy does some strange stuff in the middle of the ADULT mix, it like cuts out and has this real frazzled out sounding part.i on the other hand lucked out completly my copy playes GREAT no problems no skips. and yes i totally agree with you, the STRAND mix is so good! can't wait to hear the gigolo mix. Michael Mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com --- Mike Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am glad to say that I got promo's of this from Keith awhile back. Definitely a release to keep an eye out for. I think the best track on there is the Strand Remix, but then again Mike Grant's Mix took it into a totally unexpected deep house direction, and as usual, Adult can do no wrong. I can vouch for Keith's mastering problems as well. I put three loonies and all the tone arm weight on the A and C sides and the needle would still not track. He is not the only guy in town who has been having problems with an un-named mastering company. It is a shame, because it is definitely a worthy release and it should have seen the light of day sooner. Take care, Mike From: Frank Zappa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:34:54 -0800 (PST) well i know its going to be a bit for the record , but i got a copy from a friend for x-mas i think it will be worth the waitthere are so many good mixes on this re-mixi think my favorite is the scan 7 mixthe adult mixmarty bonds mixectomorph and of course mike grants mix, but all are very nicedetroit did it again in my opinion.we just brought scan 7 to perform live out here in portland oregon recently and i was hoping he would play it live , but he did'nt ...anyway for those who have not heard it yet run out and buy it right away.. GREAT RE-MIXES OF A GREAT RECORD!!! keep em coming detroit michael mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com --- Puzzlebox Records [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone we at Puzzlebox would like to first wish everyone a great New year. And much success for 2002 Shari Vari 20002 Remixes and Original mix release has unfourtanetly been held up do to Mastering Problems. We regret the set back but we are moving ahead with a mid feb release date. We NOW KNOW HOW OTHER LABELS FEEL like Southern Outpost, Twilight 76, and Moods and Grooves. Its a shame you pay good money for so callled proffesional work from a certain mastering company and you get this sort of thing happening far to much . Needlesss to say we feel loyal to this company but because of so many eras we at puzzzlebox are on a mission for 20002 and are moving on to a new mastering company. pEACE look out for the Giggolo remix also in feb. For Distribution info go to www.optic-universe.com Puzzlebox Records - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule
well for the new years weekend we (Renegade Rhythms) brought out Mike Grant and Scan 7 they played on the 29th and the 31stthe first gig was in a small club with about 150-200 people me and one of our other dj's warmed the party up , mike grant played like an hour of mellower stuff then lou played live for a little over an hour .. after that mike grant finished it up with a nice techno set.the gig on the 31st was a private invite only house party which took place in a basement.my brother opened it up with some nice techno then lou played for like 30-40 minutes he was having some technical problems , i think it was his midi cablesthen mike grant finished up with a AMAZING 5 1/2 hour set starting with some harder techno, ending with DEEP grooves . i really was amazed with lou he was non stop assault when i saw him in detroit he played with like 5 guys , it was just him this time DIRTY ASS RAW DETROIT TECHNO...i loved it. but i must say that mike grants 5 1/2 hour set was just AMAZINGit just kept going and going , never losing his groove. i am not lying 5 1/2 hours and not a dull moment , i just love his style. it was one of the best new years in awhile for me .. here in portland we like DETROIT HISTORY OVER DETROIT HYPE and we got it.as always much love for the D Michael Mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com --- Patrick Wacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Michael, Just wanted to get more info on the Scan 7 gig you put on. How did Lou go? Peace, Patrick - Southern Outpost - Sydney, Australia -Original Message- From: Frank Zappa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:27 PM To: Mike Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule yea, i have heard that most peoples promos have some sort of technical problemlot of them skip . my brothers copy does some strange stuff in the middle of the ADULT mix, it like cuts out and has this real frazzled out sounding part.i on the other hand lucked out completly my copy playes GREAT no problems no skips. and yes i totally agree with you, the STRAND mix is so good! can't wait to hear the gigolo mix. Michael Mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com --- Mike Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am glad to say that I got promo's of this from Keith awhile back. Definitely a release to keep an eye out for. I think the best track on there is the Strand Remix, but then again Mike Grant's Mix took it into a totally unexpected deep house direction, and as usual, Adult can do no wrong. I can vouch for Keith's mastering problems as well. I put three loonies and all the tone arm weight on the A and C sides and the needle would still not track. He is not the only guy in town who has been having problems with an un-named mastering company. It is a shame, because it is definitely a worthy release and it should have seen the light of day sooner. Take care, Mike From: Frank Zappa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:34:54 -0800 (PST) well i know its going to be a bit for the record , but i got a copy from a friend for x-mas i think it will be worth the waitthere are so many good mixes on this re-mixi think my favorite is the scan 7 mixthe adult mixmarty bonds mixectomorph and of course mike grants mix, but all are very nicedetroit did it again in my opinion.we just brought scan 7 to perform live out here in portland oregon recently and i was hoping he would play it live , but he did'nt ...anyway for those who have not heard it yet run out and buy it right away.. GREAT RE-MIXES OF A GREAT RECORD!!! keep em coming detroit michael mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com --- Puzzlebox Records [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone we at Puzzlebox would like to first wish everyone a great New year. And much success for 2002 Shari Vari 20002 Remixes and Original mix release has unfourtanetly been held up do to Mastering Problems. We regret the set back but we are moving ahead with a mid feb release date. We NOW KNOW HOW OTHER LABELS FEEL like Southern Outpost, Twilight 76, and Moods and Grooves. Its a shame you pay good money for so callled proffesional work from a certain mastering company and you get this sort of thing happening far to much . Needlesss to say we feel loyal to this company but because of so many eras we at puzzzlebox are on a mission for 20002 and are moving on to a new mastering company. pEACE look out for the Giggolo remix also in feb. For Distribution info go to www.optic-universe.com Puzzlebox Records
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Re: [313] Deep Chord 9
I live in Portland OR my brother got one sent to him from detroit .. my other friend got one sent too him as well .. and my girlfriend just came to visit me from london and she picked me one up in smallfish records in London so i know it has made it around.bairly michael renegaderhythms Todd Smith wrote: Finding a copy of this release outside of the immediate Detroit distibution network should prove difficult. Of all the shops I've been to in the past year, and including various distributors in the UK, Spain, and Germany to which I'm regularly connected, I have yet to see this release outside of Detroit (Record Time) with the exception of Play De Record in Toronto. If Dave Cooper is still on this list he might be able to tell you more about Play De. todd _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re:[313] brian harden
i have been on the west coast all my life and too me the people who have moved out here have helped in some ways ..remember the west coast means portland and seattle alsonot just san fran and LA...most of the people who have moved west still don't make it to portland or seattle that often ...more too seattle cause it's biggerbut one of the true techno dj/producers that has helped most(imho) on the west coast is jon williams of organised noise.but thats another disscussioni think brian harden will have his time just as all the other heads in chicago...just a matter of time Ryan Heard wrote: I honestly don't believe that keeping company with those folks will do him any favors whatsoever (out on the west coast). Heads who know already know and respect him. He's getting more and more praise all the time, not just from DJ's but in the mainstream dance press as well. Besides... respect is something everyone strives for, but it's not the end for which one strives (I hope) in the face of just making great music. ... speaking as someone who is out on the west coast. Ironically, what we do have going for us out here may have nothing to do with his vibe at all in a direct way. Thank God for Kit Clayton, Twerk, Safety Scissors, Danny Zelonky, etc. for keeping the west coast scene progressing and forward-thinking. Yall can have the Farinas et al :). Ryan Heard -Original Message- From: Joel Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 8:04 AM To: Frank Zappa; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] brian harden Brian is one of my favorites producers. I have fond memories of him bringing his Casio SK1 to high school and fooling around with it. Who would of thought that he would be making a career out of it. As good as Brian is, unfortunately he will always be overshadowed by the bigger acts in Chicago such as Roy Davis, Glenn Underground, Boo Williams, Paul Johnson or Cajmere. As long as he is in Chicago he always be seen as their protege instead of a peer. What Brian needs to do is move to the west coast like so many other Chicago artists (Mark Farina, Miles Maeda, Hyperactive, Gemini, Halo, Colette and Angel Alanis) in order to get the respect that he truly deserves. Ciao, Joel - Original Message - From: Frank Zappa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 8:15 PM Subject: [313] brian harden i know brian is from chicago but i was hoping to squeeze him into a quick discussion... we just brought him out to portland Or. had a really good time . brian played at a little bar downtown ... he played real similar to his styles on his Moods and Grooves release...just wondering if many people here have heard brian and what you guys thought ...by the way look for a album from him sometime after the first of the year... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] DJ Pierre/Wild Pitch
ok well i have'nt heard anyone bring up this wild pitch record its one of my fav'smight be deep enough ...he he side 1. jeff mills latenight .with mills mix dj pierre mix dj pierre dub mix side 2. jeff mills berlinwith mills mix wild pitch mix wild pitch dub mix label: pow wow trance more on the techno side of things , but definatly wild pitch... hope this helps someone... michael renegade rhythms martin clark wrote: I'm really into Danille Dixon Dance Dance [DJ Pierre mix] and Phuture Rise From Your Grave [Wild Pitch mix] can someone advise me about deep DJ Pierre/Wild Pitch material that is post-Phuture but still vintage? Deeper the better martin _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] DJ Pierre/Wild Pitch
Actually, although I play the DJ Pierre Wild Pitch remix of Late Night, it doesn't seem as wild-pitchy to me as a lot of the others; the rythmic bed is a lot stiffer sounding than the more flowing examples are. On the other hand, if DJ Pierre calls it wild pitch, then there you go. yea i agree ... that maybe a good call.. check closely ...there is no wildpitch mix of late night ..there is a dj pierre mixit's pretty much a wildpitch mix but does'nt say it is..so technically your right. nice ears..i think source material may play a little part as well. i mean it is jeff mills side 1. jeff mills latenight .with mills mix dj pierre mix dj pierre dub mix side 2. jeff mills berlinwith mills mix wild pitch mix wild pitch dub mix label: pow wow trance michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, although I play the DJ Pierre Wild Pitch remix of Late Night, it doesn't seem as wild-pitchy to me as a lot of the others; the rythmic bed is a lot stiffer sounding than the more flowing examples are. On the other hand, if DJ Pierre calls it wild pitch, then there you go. The thing I don't like about this record is that it's pressed at very low volumes, practically the only one I need to push all the way to 10 on my Rane when the average steady-in-the-red setting is 7 (those of you who know Ranes can see what I'm saying, this record lacks *punch*!). I've tried a couple different copies so it's not just my particular one. I don't know if this is a Pow Wow characteristic or just a bum pressing. phred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Juan Atkins....
i have heard a lot of things about alot of people, that supposidly don't do drugs.but most of what you hear is bullshit besides what makes Horiatio so damn good that he can pass judgement on juan or anyone for that matterso watch out everyone cause Mcdonalds(like heroin) destroy's this earth at a rappid rate so if you eat Mcdonalds i am not going to respect you musicly take your gossip to another list that might want it there ..case you have not figured it out we here on the 313 list enjoy disscussions about detroit techno related MUSIC not bullshit rave gossip my 2 cents michael. Horiatio Herbert wrote: It's really sad to hear that one of my all-time musical heros (and I'm sure many peoples on this list), Juan Atkins, has a heroin problem. It really kills me inside thinking about it and I really wish I could help.. HH. :( _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
brian harden
i know brian is from chicago but i was hoping to squeeze him into a quick discussion... we just brought him out to portland Or. had a really good time . brian played at a little bar downtown ... he played real similar to his styles on his Moods and Grooves release...just wondering if many people here have heard brian and what you guys thought ...by the way look for a album from him sometime after the first of the year... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] the creator
Subject: Re: [313] the creator On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, jose bello wrote: who is the creator of this words ? in the beginning was jack... Jose Bello.Spain i first heard these words on mr. fingers can you feel it but i have this feeling that it is not the original. i have read from somewhere in the that these words are from osheen my house but i have not heard the track... Well, here it is AGAIN..TP should start a history of house and techno hotlinehe he he he This subject came up on the 313 list a few months back, I saved the message that Terrence Parker posted with the answer to this seemingly omnipotent question. So with all credit due to TP, here is his answer: The ORIGINAL VERSION of the famous speech In the beginning there was Jack, and Jack had a groove . . . . is by ITALO ECSTASY. The track is entitled MY HOUSE, and was ORIGINALLY released on XYZ RECORDS late in the year 1986. Yes, it was used as a vocal drop on top of many instrumental recordings over the years, including Mr. Fingers' CAN YOU FEEL IT. But don't get it twisted ladies and gentlemen. The Mr. Fingers' version (which was originally a BOOTLEG) is NOT WHERE THIS SPEECH ORIGINATED FROM! (Terrence Parker) hope this helps michael renegaderhythms _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re:[313]the creator
Subject: Re: [313] the creator On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, jose bello wrote: who is the creator of this words ? in the beginning was jack... Jose Bello.Spain i first heard these words on mr. fingers can you feel it but i have this feeling that it is not the original. i have read from somewhere in the that these words are from osheen my house but i have not heard the track... Well, here it is AGAIN..TP should start a history of house and techno hotlinehe he he he This subject came up on the 313 list a few months back, I saved the message that Terrence Parker posted with the answer to this seemingly omnipotent question. So with all credit due to TP, here is his answer: The ORIGINAL VERSION of the famous speech In the beginning there was Jack, and Jack had a groove . . . . is by ITALO ECSTASY. The track is entitled MY HOUSE, and was ORIGINALLY released on XYZ RECORDS late in the year 1986. Yes, it was used as a vocal drop on top of many instrumental recordings over the years, including Mr. Fingers' CAN YOU FEEL IT. But don't get it twisted ladies and gentlemen. The Mr. Fingers' version (which was originally a BOOTLEG) is NOT WHERE THIS SPEECH ORIGINATED FROM! (Terrence Parker) hope this helps michael renegaderhythms __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] rolando too good for the us?
Rolando should play wherever he feels it will help get good music out to interested ears, make some money and promote his career. i pretty much agree with you ... when we brought the UR electric entourage to Portland OR not many people knew who Rolando was lots of people just thought he was the best they ever saw at that time i mean most people knew who UR was but did not even know much about Rolando's involvment with the UR crew. of course it really don't matter WHO HE IS or who he's DOWN with cause it's all about the music but , i can say that most people there LOVED rolando's set and fliped out and will come to see him next time we bring him, which brings it all back to the same old thing, EDUCATION but it does suck real badly when our own country cannot enjoy what Rolando , UR , Detroit, Chicago, ..ect has to offer cause they would rather watch the new prodigy video..talk about moby , look at pictures of brittney spears and go to Mega TRANCE fest's... maybe thing's will change in the future and everybody will listen to Rolando , jeff mills , richie and watch them on MTV, or maybe they will stay the same , alot of VERY TALENTED techno and house producers who have to go out side the US to be truly appriciated. either way I win cause i listen AND dance to the music and try not to be concerned with all the other shat. and your right most people out here on the west coast don't know about Rolando , UR , ect but they are never going to learn if people don't support Dj's/producers like UR , Rolando , the Burden Bros when they come around. Before the jaguar situation we brought the electric entourage tour (granted it is Portland , OR) there were MAYBE 350 people . which was great from my point of view (i love small underground parties) but it did not give Rolando , Twonz , octave one , random noise generation, wildplanet the exposure they deserve it's a tricky situation all i know is i have known about Detroit and Chicago music since 1992 and me and my crew are trying our best to get a nice appriciative scene here in Portland Oregon by supporting the best Underground Dj's/producers in america... but it's a hard thing to do when most are worried about the worlds #1 dj, and what club carl cox played in yesterday.. i think people have short attention spans and want instant gratificationbeing as good as UR , Murat , Ben Sims, dj TRAXX , Richie does'nt happen over night at last nights rave party. it takes many years.. michael check out our web site www.renegaderhythms.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
best dj??? my opinion.......
well here's my pick for favorite top 5 all the way from Portland, Oregon 1.Murat 2.Traxx 3.Twonz 4.Jeff Mills 5.Richie Hawtin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
plus 8 contest ....mac users left out???
not sure...maybe i'm dumb but the acid x-press software is only for pc no mac love?? well that sucks i was hoping to see what i could do with all those plus 8 loops , o well i'll take the power of a MAC over the acid software anyday... :) think different __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Burden Bros. Inquiry
Hell Ya i will be looking forward to seeing this story lenny and lawrence burden are 2 of the nicest guys i have met in my 8 years as a dj/promoter... me and my crew which consists of 8-10 djs were lucky enough to get in contact with UR and 430 west and do the electric entourage tour in Portland Oregon. ever since i first heard my first 430 west record i knew these guys would change me the day i saw them perform live/dj we had random noise generation, lawrence djing, wildplanet live , the techno terrorist TWONZ djing, and the punishing sounds of Rolando aka Astech Mystic. the burden bros..mad mike .. and all the rest of the submerge crew represent THE UNDERGROUND to me and are doing it right if you want to talk to me or some others in my crew about our experience with the burden bros you should e-mail us at our web site.. www.RENEGADERHYTHMS.com we have been lucky enough to have them out here twice and i could go on forever about their influence on me and my crew and the West Coast I CAN NOT SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT THEM.. they definetly changed the way i Hear Techno and all i can say even though i have not met all of them is a BIG thank you to.TAMARAMAD MIKE...LENNY...LAWRENCE...SIMON...ROLANDO... OUR BOY TWONZ...AND ALL OF THE REST OF SUBMERGE CREWI LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING YOU ALL.. Out.. LONG LIVE THE UNDERGROUND..JACK LIVES IN ME! ps... also you can contact me at either www.renegaderhythms.com or [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
