Re: [TLS FAIL] Re: Detor - Remember

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

He died on Easter due to a massive heart attack during a Twitch stream. Really 
tragic.

Holly C. MacDonald-Korth
hko...@korthdirect.com
President and CFO
Korth Direct Mortgage
Direct: 786 693 8652
Cell: 305 333 4890
Toll-free: 800 454 1628 x3302

On Jun 7, 2021, at 8:25 AM, kent williams  wrote:


Oh man, Tim Baker died? I'm gutted. Why am I only finding that out now?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 12:20 PM Rob Theakston 
mailto:rob.theaks...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Detor's parties were a major turning point for me. I had a radio show on our 
college station between Derrick/Detor crew and Fanon Flowers. Both of those 
fellows were instrumental in landing my internship at Planet E.

Incredibly grateful to this crew. Not only for their contributions to the 313 
community, but their influence on my own impressionable ears. Sad that the 
reunion is under such circumstances.

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 1:10 PM Detor Productions 
mailto:detorproducti...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In the fall of 1995 five friends joined together to form a company known as 
Detor Productions. The name, Detor, was formed by a combination of the words 
Detroit and Toronto, the cities they called home. Various elements were taken 
from each of these cities' music scenes, along with up and coming talent from 
around the world, and were combined to create a unique and innovative party 
experience.

26 years later in April 2021 we lost two of our brothers, Jason Cutsinger, a 
founding member of Detor and Tim Baker, a regular at our events and long time 
friend.

On June 12th, 2021 Detor, in collaboration with friends and artists who were 
prominent at our events during the 90's, invite you to celebrate the lives of 
our brothers and to Remember.

Artists:
-Murat
-Antwon Faulkner
-Kenny Glasgow
-Bliss
-HD Substance
-Greg Gow
-Dru Ruiz
-Derrick Ramirez (Dez) & Fred Ortencio
-Jeff Wallace

In collaboration with:
-Detor Productions
-Good Company
-Blackspace Studios
-Hijacked Records
-SUB_tl Records
-Restructured Recordings
-House of Nephilim/Turph
-Cultured Citizens

The event will be streamed with artists playing from Detroit, Toronto, New 
York, Oakland, and Madrid from 15:00 to 23:00 ET. For detailed information 
visit: https://www.facebook.com/events/475680310368311

Cheers!
Detor

RE: Still on?

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Ironically, Tristan, one of my kids fished out one of your old mix CDs and it 
was sitting on the bookshelf…

Well timed for this convo. Glad to see your name again…

Gonna give your soundcloud a listen… and maybe that mix cd.

h

From: kent williams 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:37 PM
To: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: Still on?

I met Tristan Watkins at West Music in Coralville, Iowa, where he was in the 
process of purchasing his first synths & samplers.  He'd decided he wanted to 
make techno and was there to grab whatever he could to make that happen.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:51 AM Tristan Watkins 
mailto:phonop...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey all,

Pleased to see the madness has died down here. Sad to see the lack of activity. 
Still trying to keep abreast of the new Detroit stuff. New Moodymann, the 
recent John Beltran releases, and the Reggie Dokes remix of Teyana Taylor 
(really superb) have been doing it for me lately. Also a bit immersed in 
Gamelan presently. Send tips offline if you have any.

Putting my head above water to remind myself if this actually works when I post 
from Gmail (rather than the bounces I get normally), and to quickly mention I 
have a handful of new tracks up on Soundcloud if you're interested 
https://soundcloud.com/phonopsia

Tristan (super-secretive stealth self-promo expert)

Re: 20-year service pin

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I joined mw-raves in 1993. and I think 313 in 94? when was inception? maybe 95?

I think I took a year or two hiatus in the aughts, but basically been on here 
over half my life. wow.

Holly MacDonald-Korth
Managing Director
J W Korth & Company
(786) 693-8652

On Dec 23, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Mister Jones 
<misterjones...@gmail.com<mailto:misterjones...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Good grief... I can't remember if I signed up in 98, 99, or 2000. I found 
Hyperreal in '97 but can't remember when I discovered the mailing lists.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Patrick Wacher 
<pwac...@gmail.com<mailto:pwac...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Nice!

I remember getting the dox matrix continuous printer paper mail order catalogs 
from Submariner. Man, I would pour over that thing like crazy.




On Dec 18, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Nathan 
<nathg...@tpg.com.au<mailto:nathg...@tpg.com.au>> wrote:


1997 for me. Will have to dig out the fax I sent to Submerge for my first order 
from them. How time flies!!


Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Dec 2017, at 8:01 am, Patrick Wacher 
<pwac...@gmail.com<mailto:pwac...@gmail.com>> wrote:

1995 for me, going back to some of those old emails was a blast!



Sent from Astro<https://www.helloastro.com> for Mac

On Dec 17, 2017 at 1:28 PM, ACID 
<pla...@acid-house.net<mailto:pla...@acid-house.net>> wrote:

I think i got onto it late..and with a different email so i cant check

Was on v-rave before 313 though.

Sent from my iPad

On 17 Dec 2017, at 20:17, Fred Heutte 
<ph...@sunlightdata.com<mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com>> wrote:

Greg! good to see ya!

1995 here also. Got on a few months before the Metroplex 10th anniversary
party which was my first intro to many 313ers.

Although it's not new (2005 I think), been playing Abe Duque/Blake Baxter
"What Happened" a lot this year . . .

fh

-
From: majord...@hyperreal.org<mailto:majord...@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Majordomo results: subscr!be
Date: November 6, 1997 at 4:14 AM
To: [Me]

Just realized I recently passed my 20th anniversary on this list.

(And I remember hearing about it a couple of years beforehand, but hey -
I was lazy.)

Shout-outs to the other old-timers!

- Greg

P.S. Re:

2017
Vatican Shadow ?- Luxor Necropolitics
The Exaltics ?- Das Heise Experiment 2 [The Prequel]
ASC - Sentinel
[...]

No lists for me this year but I just wanted to say that James/ASC is a
genius.

RE: Female Producers

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

“I think it is hard to get recognized as a musician or producer no matter who 
you are or what your background is.”

This is true. But at every step of the process of becoming a producer and 
getting recognized it is more difficult for a female. From learning about 
equipment and what to buy, to having a cohort to learn to produce music with, 
to having a network to submit songs to, to having promoters give you 
opportunities to play, to labels taking you seriously and listening to your 
tracks, to discussions like this.

At each of those steps there are fewer opportunities for females. Just because 
it is more difficult for females does not take away from the fact that it is 
difficult for everyone. It is not a zero sum game.

And “patriarchy makes them harder to come by” is basically illustrated in my 
examples above.

From: Peter Bense [mailto:textur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 5:01 PM
To: Denise Dalphond
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: Female Producers

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Denise Dalphond 
> wrote:
"Have any of you ever attended those electronic music events events with 
exclusively female artists?

I have.  And in a lot of cases it seemed really awkward -- like the reason they 
were selected as performers was due to their sex/gender over their 
accomplishments as a performer/musician.  (To say nothing of the male patrons 
weirdly 'gawking' over them, which is also super creepy.  A separate issue unto 
itself.)"

You are failing to view those events through the lens of a girl or woman. It is 
often empowering.

How presumptuous of you?

I went to a number of those events and the other (female) attendees I was with 
were the ones who observed it first.  I have been to some that were frankly 
quite objectifying.

And your taste in music does not match someone else's taste.

No shit it doesn't, we're on a list called "313" which itself is about as 
marginal as it gets.

I can imagine a young girl or young woman looking up at the stage, reading the 
lineup, researching the female artists she liked; that experience is life 
changing in a sexist world.

A roll call is fine. To what end: in order to learn about more artists who are 
women because patriarchy makes them harder to come by.

I still think it is poor form to not explain what makes them relevant or 
interesting.  It is already hard enough to talk about music with words, let 
alone to not use any.

Moreover I don't think I understand the substance of your point about as to why 
the "patriarchy makes them harder to come by."

I think it is hard to get recognized as a musician or producer no matter who 
you are or what your background is.

RE: Female Producers

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

The simple fact that it is hard for anyone here to name more than a handful of 
female producers is, in itself, a reason to mention them. Clearly, the music 
should be judged for itself, but in an ecosystem that is 95% (guessing here) 
male, there is indeed some merit in just identifying female producers in order 
to hold them up, track down their music, and judge for oneself whether it is 
worthy of praise independent of the context of the maker.

However, the fact is that most music  cannot be judged independent of the 
identity of the maker. Techno is unique in that respect since it is largely 
visually anonymous and devoid of vocals. I proffer that from a male perspective 
it seems easy to say “just get over it and judge the music based on the music” 
but that does not take into account the possible reasons for wanting to listen 
to and seeking out female produced music, and the possible systemic challenges 
women and girls face both in learning to produce music and getting it published 
and distributed.

(I’m couching this with “possible” here because I’m LONG out of the scene and 
the internet has changed a lot. But I don’t think it’s changed many ingrained 
attitudes and knee-jerk reactions….)

From: Peter Bense [mailto:textur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:30 PM
To: Holly MacDonald-Korth
Cc: denisedalph...@gmail.com; christiaan76; Cole Evelev; Matthew Kane; kent 
williams; Aidan O'Doherty; Marsel van der Wielen; list 313; Suzanne Heinrichs; 
3...@coke-smyth.net
Subject: Re: Female Producers

Have any of you ever attended those electronic music events events with 
exclusively female artists?

I have.  And in a lot of cases it seemed really awkward -- like the reason they 
were selected as performers was due to their sex/gender over their 
accomplishments as a performer/musician.  (To say nothing of the male patrons 
weirdly 'gawking' over them, which is also super creepy.  A separate issue unto 
itself.)

So here we are listing out producers/djs, etc. and not discussing their works 
or what makes them good (maybe one or two have, but most replies haven't).

That turns this into an ad-hoc roll call.  Which again sort of reminds of those 
types of events I just mentioned.  To what end?

How about indicate what makes them interesting to mention here, aside from 
their sex/gender?  That would seem like a more favorable way to approach this 
discussion, while crediting them appropriately.

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Holly MacDonald-Korth 
<hko...@jwkorth.com<mailto:hko...@jwkorth.com>> wrote:
Exactly.

From: denisedalph...@gmail.com<mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com> 
[mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com<mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 3:27 PM
To: christiaan76
Cc: Peter Bense; Cole Evelev; Matthew Kane; kent williams; Aidan O'Doherty; 
Marsel van der Wielen; list 313; Suzanne Heinrichs; 
3...@coke-smyth.net<mailto:3...@coke-smyth.net>
Subject: Re: Female Producers

The only way gender will be gotten over is when sexism, homophobia, and 
transphobia are done. I love this thread.

On Aug 18, 2017, at 15:21, christiaan76 
<gotrecord...@gmail.com<mailto:gotrecord...@gmail.com>> wrote:
exactly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2017, at 21:09, Peter Bense 
<textur...@gmail.com<mailto:textur...@gmail.com>> wrote:
More generally: why is this gender thing so important?  Can't we get over it 
already..

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Cole Evelev 
<cole.eve...@gmail.com<mailto:cole.eve...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry about that. This is who I was referencing.

https://www.discogs.com/Powder-H/release/9983256

Sent from my iPhone

RE: Female Producers

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Exactly.

From: denisedalph...@gmail.com [mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 3:27 PM
To: christiaan76
Cc: Peter Bense; Cole Evelev; Matthew Kane; kent williams; Aidan O'Doherty; 
Marsel van der Wielen; list 313; Suzanne Heinrichs; 3...@coke-smyth.net
Subject: Re: Female Producers

The only way gender will be gotten over is when sexism, homophobia, and 
transphobia are done. I love this thread.

On Aug 18, 2017, at 15:21, christiaan76 
> wrote:
exactly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2017, at 21:09, Peter Bense 
> wrote:
More generally: why is this gender thing so important?  Can't we get over it 
already..

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Cole Evelev 
> wrote:
Sorry about that. This is who I was referencing.

https://www.discogs.com/Powder-H/release/9983256

Sent from my iPhone

RE: 2016 Movement initial lineup with Kraftwerk/3D

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I appreciate being able to get away from all the crowd too. I haven’t been in a 
couple years. But VIP was less crowded the years I went.

From: Alana Blue [mailto:alana.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 2:36 PM
To: jwan allen
Cc: Lori Polemenakos; Fred Heutte; 313
Subject: Re: 2016 Movement initial lineup with Kraftwerk/3D

I think the ins and outs via VIP make it worthwhile as well...not having to go 
through the GA entrance and such.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:21 AM, jwan allen 
> wrote:
The bathrooms in the VIP areas as well as the lounging areas are quite
impressive, so impressive I've realized I've been missing out all
these years.


On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Lori Polemenakos 
> wrote:
> Just booked our tickets, staying at the Motorcity. It's been a couple of
> years and wow, stuff is booked up faster than ever -- anyone actually get
> use out of the VIP tickets vs. regular weekend passes? We don't drink at the
> festival, so they seem mostly worthless (unless there's a toilet option for
> VIPs that isn't strictly extra porta-potties).
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Fred Heutte 
> > wrote:
>>
>> or just ignore this for now and go see Servito at TV Lounge tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> Phase 1 Lineup:
>> Kraftwerk-3D
>> Adam Beyer
>> Âme-DJ SET
>> Art Department
>> Boys Noize
>> Caribou
>> Carl Craig
>> Chris Liebing
>> DJ Pierre
>> Dubfire: Live Hybrid
>> Eddie Fowlkes
>> Four Tet
>> Get Real: Green Velvet & Claude VonStroke
>> Guy Gerber
>> J.Phlip
>> John Digweed
>> Juan Atkins and Mortiz von Oswald Present: Borderland
>> Justin Martin
>> Kevin Saunderson
>> Loco Dice
>> Maceo Plex
>> Magda
>> Matador-LIVE
>> MK (Marc Kinchen)
>> Mic Fanciulli
>> Nina Kraviz
>> Richie Hawtin
>> Seth Troxler
>> Stacey Pullen
>> Tale of Us
>>
>> Andrew Morant
>> Anja Schneider
>> Bruce Bailey
>> Davide Squillace
>> Delano Smith
>> DeWalta & Shannon - LIVE
>> DJ Tennis
>> Ellen Allien
>> Guti-Live
>> Heidi
>> Hito
>> Honey Soundsystem
>> Job Jobse
>> Kyle Geiger
>> La Fleur
>> Lee Curtiss
>> Marc Houle-LIVE
>> Mike Huckaby
>> Mister Joosha
>> No Regular Play-LIVE
>> Paul Woolford
>> Project 313-LIVE
>> Ryan Crosson
>> Scuba
>> Shaun Reeves
>> Sonja Moonear
>> The Black Madonna
>> tINI
>> Will Sessions feat. Amp Fiddler-LIVE
>> Zip
>>
>


--
Technoir Audio
http://www.technoiraudio.com
"dealing with your imperfect world"

RE: Boxes for shipping 12 records

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I use these: 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LLLZRA/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687682pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00B2ATGKMpf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=16MBQ5CY4BJ9FGND0TK7

or something very similar. They have held up for years in storage. Ijust 
recently unpacked them all to put my records back on shelves and the records 
were great. they fit about 65 records. More than that and the box is too heavy 
to be well supported by cardboard, I would think.

From: Patrick Wacher [mailto:pwac...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1:05 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Boxes for shipping 12 records

Hi all,
After 9 years in the US of A and my fair share of freedom, i'm moving back to 
Sydney next month and with that, I need to pack 2000+ records for shipping.

Anyone know an online source that I can buy cardboard boxes that will fit upto 
100 12 records? I think they are 12.5 square.

Thanks in advance,
Patrick.

RE: (313) Blast from the past...

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Wow! This will be awesome... so wish I could get up there... I hope they will 
record it also...

-Original Message-
From: andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com [mailto:andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:32 PM
To: David Powers
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Blast from the past...

Sweet! Hope they'll be recording this. 

http://andrewdukeinthemix.com


On 2013-04-24, at 5:09 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:

 ele_mental was born in 1993 from the convergence of like-minded OSU 
 art, film, music  photography students Charles Noel, Ed Luna, 
 Titonton Duvanté and Todd Sines. Over the last 20 years, the core 
 nucleus members and free electrons have been responsible for some of 
 world’s deepest music, art events and experiences. We reform in Ohio 
 again on Saturday, 18 May 2013 for a night to remember for yet another
 20 years.
 
 ele_mental
 20 YEARS
 SAT, 18 MAY 2013 · 8PM
 KOBO LIVE · 2590 N HIGH ST. COLUMBUS, OH
 
 LIVE SETS BY
 
 TITONTON
 AND THE MYSTERIOUS THEY
 RESIDUAL, 7TH CITY, METAMORPHIC, PALETTE Titonton Duvanté - composer, 
 arranger, keyboards, vocals Peter Harris - Violin Jocelyn Hach - Viola 
 Jane Van Voorhis - Cello Don Carlos - Drums and electronic percussion 
 Rosina Kazi - Vocals Susan Yett - Vocals
 
 LAL
 PUBLIC TRANSIT RECORDINGS / TORONTO
 Rosina Kazi  Nick Murr
 
 ARCHETYP
 21/22 CORP, ONGAKU, BLACK NATION
 aka FUZZY LOGIC / Cr02 / seadawg
 
 TODD SINES
 7TH CITY / PLANET E / PEACEFROG / YORE ALL HARDWARE LIVE SET aka 
 .xtrak / CRON / ENHANCED / TRAIT
 
 A.R.S.
 AMBIENCE RECOVERY SYSTEM
 IMPROVISED LIVE CLOSING SET
 BY SEADAWG  ~SINES
 
 DJ SETS BY
 MOONSTARR
 PUBLIC TRANSIT RECORDINGS · MONTREÁL
 
 ELUNA
 ELE_MENTAL CO-FOUNDER
 NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION
 
 DAVID COOPER
 NIGHTS OF THE ROUNDTABLE / TORONTO
 
 FBK
 ABSOLOOP / FRICTIONAL / MUSIC MAN
 THE SLEEP ENGINEER / Kevin Kennedy
 
 ele_mental 20 YEARS
 SAT, 18 MAY 2013 · 8PM / 18+ $7/$10 DOOR KOBO LIVE · 2590 N HIGH ST. 
 COLUMBUS, OH
 
 ELE-MENTAL.ORG · SCALE.LA/elemental · BIT.LY/elemental20

RE: (313) roll call?

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Awesome.

From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:phonop...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:33 AM
To: Matt Chester
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) roll call?

Hehe. If 313 was always the dad techno list, there's certainly a few more 
actual dads here these days. Y'all seen this? http://techno-dads.com/

On this end of the Surrey Techno Dads posse, my older boy is making a habit of 
asking for fun fun fun on a weekend morning, which pleases me to no end. 
Sometimes he asks for robots instead. Not long ago he discovered the Planet 
Delsin CD, which is now known as blue robots. He was busting some new moves 
to the Starfighterz track on that yesterday.

On 3 December 2012 13:15, Matt Chester 
chesterm...@gmail.commailto:chesterm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,

Still here, subbed for a year around 98 then again in 2002, here ever since.   
Based just outside London these days, with 2 lovely kids now.   Still doing 
music as much as I can, which is obviously far less than before I had them!   
I'm training them up though, my girl is already a big depeche mode fan :). And 
my boy loves hitting my drum machines.
Along with everything else...

Cheers
Matt



On 1 Dec 2012, at 21:44, Placid 
pla...@acid-house.netmailto:pla...@acid-house.net wrote:

 Nice to see so many people still around, can't remember when I subbed, but 
 still posting,  just had a baby girl (the heiress to my record collection) so 
 don't have as much time to spend on music but stil buying and playing out

 P


 Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Nov 2012, at 05:26, darkcube 
 darkc...@datavibe.netmailto:darkc...@datavibe.net wrote:

 hello, indeed.

 - darkcube [ detroit techno militia ]

 On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:23 PM, xcopy wrote:

 Hi there.


 Erik Cronin
 http://codine.com

 From: maxphi...@gmail.commailto:maxphi...@gmail.com 
 maxphi...@gmail.commailto:maxphi...@gmail.com
 To: mar...@nomorewords.netmailto:mar...@nomorewords.net; 
 313@hyperreal.orgmailto:313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:57 AM
 Subject: (313) roll call?

 I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.

 Anyone else?

 m50


 At 2012.11.28 11tel:2012.11.28%2011:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 how many subscribers are left anyway?

 and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?


 Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
 btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good
 to be back!

RE: (313) roll call?

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I'm still here. Been here, with the exception of a year or so, since 1993 or 
94... can't remember if i was on here or mw-raves first


Holly C. MacDonald-Korth
hko...@jwkorth.com  
Direct: 786 693 8652
Cell: 305 333 4890


-Original Message-
From: maxphi...@gmail.com [mailto:maxphi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:58 AM
To: mar...@nomorewords.net; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) roll call?

I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.

Anyone else?

m50


At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
how many subscribers are left anyway?

and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?


Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's 
good to be back!

RE: (313) Shopping For Music In Detroit?

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Actually - there was a great spread in Food  Wine this month about Slows and 
its neighbors. Was a nice piece.

Wish I could make it for the festival this year.

holly

-Original Message-
From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Shopping For Music In Detroit?

Agreed on Threads, People's, SID, and Ya Digg. All awesome. Hopefully Ya Digg 
gets reestablished in time for the festival. Terri McQueen
(Whodat) is the owner. She knows Detroit and records, she just needs a bit of 
luck and funds. Threads is great. Lots of new Detroit stuff all the time. And 
good old stuff, too. My friend found a couple of sealed Cybersonik 12 inches 
last fall at Threads. I haven't been to the new People's location, but Brad, 
the owner is super friendly and knowledgeable.

Another store that I visited for the first time this winter is Hello Records. 
It's in Corktown a few blocks south of Michigan. It is located at 1459 Trumbull 
at Bagley. This area is continuing to grow.
Slows is nearby with its glorious bbq and Michigan beer selection.
Astro is a new coffeeshop next door to Slows - great espresso and desserts. 
Hello Records is small and excellent. I was there over the weekend. They had a 
solid Sound Signature section and a couple of Wild Oats. They also have new 
Detroit stuff. Wade and Ben are the owners.
Wade also has boxes of Detroit ephemera that he has collected over the years 
that is for sale. When I was there on the weekend, Dez was digging and playing 
records. I love Detroit!

See y'all soon!
Denise
--
Denise Dalphond
Ph.D. Candidate in Ethnomusicology
Indiana University
www.schoolcraftwax.com

RE: (313) With apologies to DJ Assault

[Holly Macdonald-Korth]

That's awesome.

Holly C. MacDonald-Korth
hko...@jwkorth.com
direct: 786 693 8652




-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:ea...@isolar.dyndns.org] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:40 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) With apologies to DJ Assault

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs082.snc1/4561_85552744329
_621434329_1753249_2858132_n.jpg

- Greg

RE: (313) Omar S on the Golden Fleece's Roof. Jacktronik presents Phonographic Detroit

[Holly Macdonald-Korth]

I will be there there! See y'all later

-Original Message-
From: Todd Sines [mailto:sines...@scale.gs] 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:27 PM
To: Kent Williams; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Omar S on the Golden Fleece's Roof.  Jacktronik
presents Phonographic Detroit

should've been there about 12 hrs earlier, we were doing the same  
thing [at Exodus]

playing tonight at this night of mayhem as Facebook might put it:
http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?topic=52878.0
http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?99720


Jacktronik presents Phonographic Detroit
Date /  Monday, 25 May 2009- Movement DEMF  
Time /  9:00pm - 6:00am 
Venue / TV Bar/ 2554 Grand River Ave, Detroit
Cost /  $10 before Midnight

Paul Johnson
Robert Armani
Mike Dearborn
Mike Huckaby
Adam Jay
Chris The Creator
Archetype
Todd Sines
FBK
Aaron Bennett
DJ Dru
Rob Rage
Jen Mas
Nole Love
Jessie James
Mr. Joshooa
MD feat Teddy MC
DJ Soulo
Obitykenobi
Turtle Matt
Red Pill Blue Pill
DJ Seoul
T. Linder
DJ Psycho
Dan Lucas
Neil V,Darkcube
Rex Sepulveda
Cosmic Spore
DJ E-Man
Lola
DJ Spider
Espleece
The Diciple
Augustus Williams
Storm
N-Ter
Indcy4
Rascals
Shan Tran

Throat still sore from No Way Back's smoky dungeon .. lungs hate me  
but heart loves it.

if you wanna go, email me off list.


+odd

On May 25, 2009, at 10:08 AM, kent williams wrote:

 I just have to say that the highlight of the Festival so far was Omar
 S at the rooftop beer garden Sunday in Greektown.   Great track
 selection, from old disco to house to some of Omar's own joints on
 white labels.  And dancing in the sun ruled!  There were maybe 50
 people there at the peak, but it seemed a crowd skewed to people I
 hadn't seen for years.  So awesome all around!

RE: (313) festival day two

[Holly Macdonald-Korth]

I have been posting a bunch of videos, etc, to my facebook.

Will be taking more today. Friend me if you'd like to see...

I also plan to make a website next week...

-Original Message-
From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:08 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) festival day two

Started with a bit of Frankie Vega and then Electrobounce on the
waterfront,
keeping the upbeats with da man Brian G and the crew -- that was fun.  
Caught a bit of Al Ester and Osunlade on the main stage and then headed
offsite to the DJs and Backpacks barbecue put together by Cornelius
Harris as a fundraiser to provide backpacks for school kids.  This was
at
the outside patio of Z's Villa, a cool tavern and restaurant in the New
Center 
area and when you are Cornelius you can get the likes of Terrence Parker

and Aux 88 to play -- I was there while TP was on the decks and had the 
good fortune to meet up with Otto and Cisco.  Those who know should 
check out www.alteregomgt.com, and nice one Cornelius and everyone!

We got back to the festival in time to hear Octave One absolutely rip it
up
in the underground stage.  Their sound is strong enough to dent even 
that sonic mess and they had the crowd jumping.  But otherwise the
garage kept eating DJs alive.  

I missed Neil Landtstrumm but heard he played well and quirky...
speaking 
of quirky I watched the Wighnomy Brothers for a bit.  I gather they are 
from eastern Germany and have put out a number of minimal/tech-house 
type releases.  Meanwhile, Luciano was spooning out his non-quirky 
tech-house on the main stage.  There's nothing really wrong with his 
selections but I always feel like he plays it safe.  

Afterparties -- a mixed bag.  I could hear Larry Heard playing from the
rooftop at New Bookie's from blocks away.  But in the building was 
another story -- a bunch of drunk sports bar people, so I left
immediately.  
Putting that behind I made my annual pilgrimage to Lafayette Coney 
Island -- no disappointments there.

The turnout for Buzz Goree's Homecoming party at the Tangent gallery
was really good, and we were treated to a long and densely interwoven
set by Jeff Mills.  I've only seen him play a handful of times, and this
probably didn't measure up to his legendary ones, but it was the best
I've seen from him, especially the last half hour or so -- surging and
swirling, and a lot of fun to watch.

Finally, No Way Back -- well, that was the right name for it!  The Bo 
House is a great place for a classic one-red-light-and-killa-sound
Detroit party.  When Derrick the mad acid king Plaslaiko cranked
up the tracks with the wiggly worm sound from the shiny little box
it was slammin!

Yeah, a good day overall ...

fh  

RE: (313) festival day two

[Holly Macdonald-Korth]

Oh, or you can see them on youtube... I'm hcmk on youtube most are
tagged with DEMF. I have jeff mills, osunlade, roy davis jr, dj
godfather, dj deeon... although the last one is mostly hilarious booty
dancing girls...

-Original Message-
From: Holly Macdonald-Korth [mailto:hko...@jwkorth.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:28 PM
To: Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) festival day two

I have been posting a bunch of videos, etc, to my facebook.

Will be taking more today. Friend me if you'd like to see...

I also plan to make a website next week...

-Original Message-
From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:08 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) festival day two

Started with a bit of Frankie Vega and then Electrobounce on the
waterfront,
keeping the upbeats with da man Brian G and the crew -- that was fun.  
Caught a bit of Al Ester and Osunlade on the main stage and then headed
offsite to the DJs and Backpacks barbecue put together by Cornelius
Harris as a fundraiser to provide backpacks for school kids.  This was
at
the outside patio of Z's Villa, a cool tavern and restaurant in the New
Center 
area and when you are Cornelius you can get the likes of Terrence Parker

and Aux 88 to play -- I was there while TP was on the decks and had the 
good fortune to meet up with Otto and Cisco.  Those who know should 
check out www.alteregomgt.com, and nice one Cornelius and everyone!

We got back to the festival in time to hear Octave One absolutely rip it
up
in the underground stage.  Their sound is strong enough to dent even 
that sonic mess and they had the crowd jumping.  But otherwise the
garage kept eating DJs alive.  

I missed Neil Landtstrumm but heard he played well and quirky...
speaking 
of quirky I watched the Wighnomy Brothers for a bit.  I gather they are 
from eastern Germany and have put out a number of minimal/tech-house 
type releases.  Meanwhile, Luciano was spooning out his non-quirky 
tech-house on the main stage.  There's nothing really wrong with his 
selections but I always feel like he plays it safe.  

Afterparties -- a mixed bag.  I could hear Larry Heard playing from the
rooftop at New Bookie's from blocks away.  But in the building was 
another story -- a bunch of drunk sports bar people, so I left
immediately.  
Putting that behind I made my annual pilgrimage to Lafayette Coney 
Island -- no disappointments there.

The turnout for Buzz Goree's Homecoming party at the Tangent gallery
was really good, and we were treated to a long and densely interwoven
set by Jeff Mills.  I've only seen him play a handful of times, and this
probably didn't measure up to his legendary ones, but it was the best
I've seen from him, especially the last half hour or so -- surging and
swirling, and a lot of fun to watch.

Finally, No Way Back -- well, that was the right name for it!  The Bo 
House is a great place for a classic one-red-light-and-killa-sound
Detroit party.  When Derrick the mad acid king Plaslaiko cranked
up the tracks with the wiggly worm sound from the shiny little box
it was slammin!

Yeah, a good day overall ...

fh  

RE: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts?

[Holly Macdonald-Korth]

I'm going... haven't been since 01... really looking forward to it...

Holly C. MacDonald-Korth
hko...@jwkorth.com
direct: 786 693 8652




-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 PM
To: list 313
Subject: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? 
anybody making t-shirts?

is really nobody going to the festival?  i saw no responses when i
first posted my roll call request last thursday.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote:
 you bet your hiney i'll be there.

 --
 peace,

 frank

 dj mix archive:  http://www.deejaycountzero.com




-- 
peace,

frank

dj mix archive:  http://www.deejaycountzero.com

RE: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special

[Holly Macdonald-Korth]

Does anyone know what a VIP pass entails? Doesn't say much on want tickets...

-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:05 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special

For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price.

Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest.  A double room is up
to $130 a night.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote:
 WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already.  One is
 for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00
 (about £24, UK'ers):

 http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349

 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next
 Monday morning, March 23rd!

 (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane
 flights yet)

        - Greg

RE: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special

[Holly Macdonald-Korth]

Well, then I'm in...

-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:23 PM
To: Holly Macdonald-Korth
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special

you get to be teabagged by your superstar dj of choice

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Holly Macdonald-Korth
hko...@jwkorth.com wrote:
 Does anyone know what a VIP pass entails? Doesn't say much on want tickets...

 -Original Message-
 From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:05 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special

 For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price.

 Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest.  A double room is up
 to $130 a night.

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote:
 WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already.  One is
 for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00
 (about £24, UK'ers):

 http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349

 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next
 Monday morning, March 23rd!

 (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane
 flights yet)

        - Greg






-- 
peace,

frank

dj mix archive:  http://www.deejaycountzero.com

(313) Posting Problems

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I couldn't figure out what was up either!

You have to make sure that your email is in plain text format (set this
in your email clients configuration, or on the individual message) to
post. When you reply to an email, it automatically does this. So, if you
can reply, but not start a post, change your settings!

xoxo,
h

-Original Message-
From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:21 PM
To: Douglas Singleton
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Movement Detroit 2003


hmmm, yes ... seems the listserver is acting wacky today - I can't start

a new post either so I'm hitching a ride on this one  :)

Curious, have there been any stories, articles, etc. on how well 
Movement 03 did? Too early to tell? From the perspective of those who've

attended in the past - do you think there were more or less people this 
year?

btw, the pix  write-ups people have shared are great - fun to see 
different views of the event(s)! The one of the older woman in the blue 
dress from the gallery below is pretty cool, imo.

lisa  :)


Douglas Singleton wrote:
 
 (you don't know me, but I was there too.)
 
 photos:
 
 http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/indoug/lst?.dir=/Movement+Detroit+2003.sr
 c=ph.view=t
 
 
 snippets of reflections:
 
 Kelli Hand rocks, its always a good sign when a DJ finds herself so
 moved by what shes spinning that shes got her hands swinging up in
the 
 air while she jabs back and forth with the crowd.
 
 Underground Resistance soldiers Buzz Goree and Rolando spun back to 
 back
 sets on the Movement Stage, jumping off the night session. Rolando did

 the hard electro thing to begin with before getting progressively 
 harder, nothing too rattling, just hard techno grooves.
 
 Kenny and Kevin taking turns mapping out their history of Detroit,
 relentless and smooth. I dont know, its always weird for me to see 
 these legends up there doing their thing like they can, so
effortlessly 
 and heartfelt, and then see all the people out in the square dancing, 
 right here in Detroit (here in America), black, white, old(er), raver 
 kids, gangs of hip-hop kids, families sitting up on the steps. All 
 listening to the groove. I kinda felt good for Kenny and Kevin.
 
 The purpose of doing SPITE was to catch Robert Hood, who rarely if 
 ever
 comes to New York. After awhile Hood jumped on the decks and was very 
 quickly so hard and complex that things felt instantly taken to
another 
 level. It was worth it. One would think that with the bpms pumped so 
 fast the music would lose character, but it did not. Hood is very hard

 but the music rich. His spinning is so serious, no-holds-barred 
 intelligent and complex that its perplexing. It would seem impossible

 to be both speedy-fast and funkythat defies certain laws. But he 
 manages to do it, hard, hard, rich, speedy-funky beats. Almost like
some 
 gabba ghetto s ** t.
 
 At Movement itself Three Chairs (specifically Theo, Marcellus, and
 Wilhite) were the most fulfilling event for me, a black barbecue circa

 2030: old disco, hard techno, ancient neo-soul, black, white, old, 
 young, the intelligent contingent along with those just booty
shakin 
 losing it.
 
 And May hit it running, off into some extreme tweakin trickery from
 the startnotes and bass and tones dipping and soaring through the air

 as he tweaked here and there, bobbing his head, stepping back from the

 mixer like a pimp and then attacking it on beat. Amazing. It was as if

 the room had been lifted off the ground and raised a few feet into the
air.
 
 It was cool. He went mad old school for a bitelectro, hip-hop (all
 pre-87, I remember a Run-DMC track), and old school house jams. I 
 remember saying to myself at one point, Jeff Mills is playing a 
 straight-up soul song. He did some scratching and turntable trickery.

 It was beautiful. He played Rappers Delight. I spotted an old 
 African-American woman behind us mouthing all of the lyrics, as was I.

 Eventually the electro and hip-hop disappeared and he got harder,
giving 
 those there to hear Jeff Mills what they wanted, but only a little.
He 
 jumped on his 909 and rocked outthe people up front going crazy. He 
 went back to some electro and old house (it was weird hearing the 
 crackling of the old records booming out of Hart Plazas sound system,

 coming from Mills). Harder again, back to the 909, and then he was
off.
 
 What is Kenny Dixon Jr. on? Some futuristic black family backyard 
 party
 s ** t? The Stylistics meet Kraftwerk? And then he got to that hard 
 metallic disco and it morphed into roving Detroit. He was mixing by 
 then, sliding his way to serious techno and it all made perfect sense,

 people, a few dozen now, were on the dance floor losing it feeling his

 vibe, streaming in from the back room. I had some KDJ, it was intense.

 It was true.
 
 I decided to walk through the morning streets back to the hotel, past
 old Tiger Stadium, past the street people 

RE: (313) messages

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

does anyone else have trouble getting messages through?!?!

this is the 7th time i've tried to send a message to the list in the
last 2 days. hopefully this one will get through...

...

hello all... 
 
i'm gonna be in nyc from the 11th to the 16th of june and wondered if
anyone has any suggestions for gigs of which i might not be aware.
already planning to see metro area at apartment that thursday.
 
h

RE: (313) messages

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

ok, i figured it out... for some reason i have to REPLY to another
message from the list to get one through? i can't start a thread myself?
what's up with that? am i a second class 313-er? blacklisted cause i
missed DEMF again?

-Original Message-
From: Holly MacDonald-Korth 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:36 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) messages


does anyone else have trouble getting messages through?!?!

this is the 7th time i've tried to send a message to the list in the
last 2 days. hopefully this one will get through...

...

hello all... 
 
i'm gonna be in nyc from the 11th to the 16th of june and wondered if
anyone has any suggestions for gigs of which i might not be aware.
already planning to see metro area at apartment that thursday.
 
h

RE: (313) Please book THIS dj =)

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

i just forwarded it to my boss, he loved it.

-Original Message-
From: Roland van Oorschot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:58 PM
To: ::)
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Please book THIS dj =)


At 23:53 29-5-2003, ::) wrote:
be it an american thing or not, its still a fact of some peoples lives.

Next time I'll post such a link over here, I'll keep it in mind. Sorry
for the ppl who are in big trouble now... :D

(shes hot tho)

Tell that to your boss :)

R.


---
http://www.funxiun.com

.dark.elektronix.

(313) norm talley track id

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

i hope this goes through... my last few messages arent' getting
posted...

i'm listening to the norm talley mix urban rainforest off of
pulsations.com and around 47-50 minutes in is a song that i used to hear
out a lot when i lived in DC... it is a slower beat deep house song,
that has a female vocal saying power to conquer through self
defense...

what is it?!?

xo,
h
   

RE: (313) Listmember's sites

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I am pretty sure he meant if you did not purchase a static ip from your DSL 
provider, then it will change on and off. This is true. Most DSL providers will 
let you purchase a static IP for additional cost. Otherwise, the default is 
usually dynamic...

-Original Message-
From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:05 PM
To: 'Eric Scuccimarra'; Christian Bloch; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites



Not true about DSL. I have a static IP via my provider, speakeasy.net.

-Pete

-Original Message-
From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:57 PM
To: Christian Bloch; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites


Most cable modems have dynamic IPs but for all intents and purposes the IPs 
are static. When I had cable a few years back the IP address didn't change 
for the entire 2 years.

If you want to check your IP address I have a page that does that at 
www.skooch.com/IPFinder.cfm

DSL on the other hand is truly dynamic. Even if you leave the machine on 24 
hours a day it sometimes will disconnect from the server and reconnect with 
a new IP.

Just my experiences...

At 04:45 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, Christian Bloch wrote:
i use earthlink cable and am hosting my own site (
http://christianbloch.com ) - my network i.p. is dynamic, but if i check it
at www.whatismyip.com it always comes up the same... for some reason it
changed once though, but i just changed my settings and i was back
online...

Christian Bloch
http://christianbloch.com
http://mp3.com/bloch
http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm

Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple
Muzik/Funque Droppings


- Original Message -
From: logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites


  (kinda OT) Anyone ever used a dynamic dns type app/service? I need
something
  like that so I can host my new site myself with my current cable service
(I
  refuse to buy a business DSL line)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
  To: diana potts; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites
 
 
  My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is www.skooch.com.
  Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site is
in
  place.
 
  Eric
 
  At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:
 
Most of the ppl on here are technies (me not
  included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
  programming and creative work going on amongst
  members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
  
Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
  site, might I suggest you check it out during an
  'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
  nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
  (there's your 313).
  
  http://www.11235813.com/
  
  any others?
  
  d
  
  __
  Do you Yahoo!?
  U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
  http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
 
 

RE: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT)

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

sorry to do this. but i strongly disagree. it greatly hurts agricultural
(farmers) families. it also disincents anyone to work hard, becuase so much
is taken away at the end. 

granted, the rich will get richer. but that will happen no matter what.

it will also prevent the current middle class from acquiring the wealth they
need to make the leap to being rich.

-Original Message-
From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:25 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT)



sometime soon, the senate is going to vote on whether to make the repeal
of the estate tax permanent.  this tax, paid only by the wealthiest of the
wealthy upon inheritance, if repealed permanently would further increase
the gap between the wealthy and the rest of us.

i don't usually ask people on the various lists i participate in to call
their senators, but i feel very strongly about this.  if you have a bit of
time to call or email your senators, and you believe the estate tax should
NOT be repealed permanently, please contact your senator:

http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index_by_state.cfm

If you want information about the estate tax (albeit from my viewpoint)
check out:

http://www.responsiblewealth.org/action_alerts/index.html


please feel free to forward.


peace
lks






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RE: [313] please help (Sharevari lyrics)

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

no, it's 928. that's what scarface drove. incredible thing to drive, if you
ever get a chance. no matter how old it is.

-Original Message-
From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:44 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] please help (Sharevari lyrics) 


 In his Porsche Nine Two Eight
 Heading for the heighest heights
 For the climax of the night
 The people there they just won't quit
 Because the music is really it

three useless contributions : in Night Drive, it is a Porsche 924, right ?
As for Vogue, the right spelling is l'uomo ; and finally, in French, it is
nouveaux, not nouvaux.

Hum...

Gwendal


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RE: [313] 'hard techno'

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

let's not forget that weird mexican/polka stuff either.

now that's a genre i just can't get my head around.

-Original Message-
From: Fixer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] 'hard techno'


Most music stays in it's semi-closed circles.  Accordian music is very
very common in a lot of Europe, especially here in Ireland, which then fed
American bluegrass/appalachian music as well as cajun/zydeco.
You always have to look for things, it can't all come to you on it's own.


quote who=George Todd
 hard techno will never die as long as there
 are kids who want to dance.

 like folk music on an accordian? it's still there, you got to look
 though.



-- 
fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes
 to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political
 favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation



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RE: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

ron trent's altered states 2x12 on djax - the whole thing


-Original Message-
From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:07 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry


Hey,

I thought this may be a good post.  I was just listening to this old ass Dan
Curtin track out of sight and mind. well, that last 2 minutes or so of it
is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings
tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss.

There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now.

What songs do this to you? 


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RE: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

yes, but how many have the famed light-blue suede shoes?


-Original Message-
From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:21 PM
To: 'Mxyzptlk'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; marsel
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?




 There are also several Richie clones who you'll see now and then in the 
 Detroit area. Pretty funny in a sad way.
  

PG Yes even for those people that have been wearing black rimmed glasses
for a lot longer than rich, they still get automatically put into this
category. I guess for obvious reasons, that's even sadder. Also, rich is no
longer wearing black rimmed glasses, he's moved on to the trendier
big-ass-orange glasses w/ silver wire rims. Guess nyc is influencing him
already, the're quite trendy here ;)

-p

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RE: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

as a matter of fact, the whole artifakts album reminds me of the packard
plant.

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Spastik, the first ever Plastikman live show, was there.
...get everyone in, lock the gates, GO.
there's subsequently a track on Artifakts called 'Pakard'.

At 5:44 PM -0400 5/29/02, :P wrote:
wasnt that the venue for a couple plastikman PAs back in the 90s?

(I missed those times narrowly)

-Joe


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  Does anyone have any URL's that talk about the packard in Detroit? I am
  intrigued by this building and would like to know more. I couldn't find
  anything re: a google search. One of the rumors i heard over the weekend
was
  that someone just bought it because they heard it was being knocked
down...
  also if anyone has any pictures of old flyers from any UR parties they
had
  there, that would be excellent.

  Thanks for any info,
  -Pete

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RE: [313] NPR goes techno again

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

yeah, i'd love to know who does their music clips... they have great ones...

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Someone at NPR has been listening to Timespace Continuum and Aphex Twin
again. Just heard it this morning in the background busic. Nice way to
start the day.

MEK


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RE: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Poorboy did the first party there round about june 94, i think... i remember
sitting outside watching the sun rise and some crackhead in a crazy jumpsuit
was helping to clean up the place inside. it was great.

correct me if i'm wrong anyone. 

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The Packard was the location for many infamous Detroit parties (including
a few of Richies) as well as Poorboy and some others.

A few years ago, the city (or maybe even state) condemned the earth (not
the building- but the actual land) as toxic.

Think about that and all the late nights we spent sitting on the Packard
floor. Ouch!

I searched www.freep.com and came up with quite a few articles. It seems
there was some major debate with the city taking over the complex from the
company that owned it. No mention of the bachanalian (sp) excess that
occured withon those walls.

On Wed, 29 May 2002, :P wrote:

 wasnt that the venue for a couple plastikman PAs back in the 90s?

 (I missed those times narrowly)

 -Joe


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  Does anyone have any URL's that talk about the packard in Detroit? I am
  intrigued by this building and would like to know more. I couldn't find
  anything re: a google search. One of the rumors i heard over the weekend
 was
  that someone just bought it because they heard it was being knocked
 down...
  also if anyone has any pictures of old flyers from any UR parties they
had
  there, that would be excellent.
 
  Thanks for any info,
  -Pete
 
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RE: [313] DEMF Observations

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

so where exactly were commercials?

on big screens next to the stages? or were there monitors everywhere? were
there commercials during the artists' sets? or only in between?

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-  Random ass-grabbings on Hart Plaza that I was unwillingly made a part of
by some drunk guy in a mullet.


I'm sorry.  Sometimes when i get drunk technobabes make me get all frisky.  
next time i'll pick someone else's ass to grab.



-  The vast number of commercials that I would've otherwise not been 
exposed
to.


me being one of the people who attempted to be as positive about the 
festival as possible, this disgusted me.  I could barely handle my anger 
everytime a commercial came on.


Anyone else find it humorous that in slim shady's new song he bashes techno 
(well, he bashes mobytech), and yet his commercial played damn near non 
stop?

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RE: [313] DEMF track ID.

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

it's put it in your mouth by the outthere brothers, i think. came out in
93/94 i think?

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hi 313s
for a friend track ID :
traxx played it at the underground stage on monday
 jackin house with sample that goes like 
 just put in your MOUTH and please dont bite etc etc

help pliz:)

Y.

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RE: [313] bell vs wink / forcefield

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

on a related note, you can have movies of the same name - slackers and
slackers... and many more...

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From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

just tell me this then, why on earth would he call is superfreak? in my
opinion it's because he's taken freak [ from '92 ] and applied new
production techniques/equipment  to the original idea...

you cannot copyright song names/titles. lots of songs have the same name. 
I'm coming up dry for an example, (wait van halen's and the pointer sister's

- jump, different songs same name)

so as to why he named it superfreak and not just freak??

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RE: [313] Electro CDs - Recommendations Pls

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I-F - Man from the Pack has always been a favorite of mine...

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 I'm looking for some recommendations for a good electro CD. I'm told
there's a good one called 'Futurism' on City Rockers and I've also been
recommended Detroit Grand Pubahs 'Funk Ya'll. I've already got Japanese
Telecom which is good so something similar would be cool.

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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

and that duck kind of dance that he does is the best!

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I would go see D-Wynn...I saw him tag team with Kevin Saunderson @ Motor and
it was a smiling dancing joker of a good time...

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  If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker  


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RE: [313] hip house

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

word up to that...

i always think yo you get funky and the classic jungle brothers i'll
house you

those are what i think when i think hip house...

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Nh

The ULTIMATE HIPHOUSE ANTHEM:

Fast Eddie Yo Yo Get Funky

wooh yeah!

W
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 to get it straight
 these are lyrics from hardcore hip house by tyree

 fast eddie, he's the king
 of hiphouse, of this music
 if you really, really want to score
 tyree is the prince and i'm coming hardcore

 whoo yeah

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RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

and why is roy davis jr playing at 12:00?

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It actually says Drexciya!!!

I know!  But it doesn't say Drexciya (live)

[semi-rhetorical question] And why aren't they closing out that stage??

-d

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RE: [313] DEMF 2002 poster - yikes.

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

oh, it's horrible. HORRIBLE. rave it up, detroit.

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Yeah Yeah, it's a matter of opinion but that's pretty lame. It doesn't say
anything to me about the soul or history of the music, in fact, it makes it
seem just like I don't want it to, robotic and soulless. 

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RE: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

It's not a press pass, to my understanding, it's a vip card. you'll be able
to get into special areas where cardholders can't... like vip rooms in
clubs...

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they are i guess SELLING press passes this time around.  $30...what do
people think about this?




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RE: [313] new Wired magazine - laptop techno

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

kit clayton too, i recall

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The newest issue of Wired (with, eech, Moby on the cover) is their music
issue. Good article on laptop techno music and the software/programming
involved feat. Kid 606, Monolake, and others (can't recall all in it). Plus
a little history on some machines that have made the sound of house and
techno - 808, 303, etc.

MEK


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RE: [313] LFO Again...

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

plus there is that LFO that was a one-hit boy-band with the i like girls
that wear abercrombie and fitch song.

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Subject: [313] LFO Again...


Hi,

There was some talk on this list about LFO a few days back. I just read
somewhere about a new album release from a british band called LFO. It turns
out that the record industry just created another
we-would-like-to-be-cool-and-make-a-lot-of-money rock act which is also
called LFO. Back to listening LFO's 'we are back' 


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RE: [313] Los Hermanos

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

in the matters of opinion, debate is futile. there is no accounting for
taste.

this should be in the FAQ.

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wow, 313 sure is testy lately.  Everyone is allowed to have opinions and
we will not all agree.  Let's keep this a safe place to express opinions
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RE: [313] pronounce this...

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

in miami they say odd-a-cur

it used to drive me nuts.

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Went to the record shop to buy a CD (LP5) by Autechre

Me : 'Do you the CD called LP5 by Ought-tek-ra ?'
Shop Fella : 'Oh you mean Ought-Chure'
(think torture without the t)

So what is the correct pronoucition ?

And is Monolake...simply 
Mono - lake
as in non-stereo - large inland water mass ? 

Thanks

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RE: [313] acid (house)

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

i think we are getting away from acid house (phuture, etc.) and into acid
here a la old school djax stuff... when the stuff got really 303 heavy in a
different way than the beginning.

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prototype 909 was a classic acid group.

taylor deupree from 12k was one of the members and you maybe be able to
still order p-909 CDs and records from them.

www.12k.com

-Joe

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  imo acid trax wasnt that great of a song.  it merely
   opened the door to a new sub genre
 
  I think it was all 707 and 303 too.  very amenic.
 
 
 
 
  a real good primer would be the hardfloor x-mix. it has
   tracks by dj
  pierre, armando, phuture.
 
  unfortuately, it doesn't have 'acid track', but i don't
   know of anyother
  real good chicago acid 'mix' cds.
 
  On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote:
 
  
   What about DJ Pierre ?
  
   ... he made 'Wild Pitch' famous throughout the European,
   Asian and
   eventually US markets.
  
   Just wondering because last time he played in NYC the
   flyer touted him as
   being the originator of acid house. Of course you can't
   believe everything
   you read on a flyer but i've heard this from other people
   as well.
  
   -Pete
  
  
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   Of course there a lot of different opinions on what was
   the first acid track
   but i think i am fairly save when say it's Phuture's Acid
   Tracks. There is a
   nice interview with Marshal Jefferson in the Modulations
   documentary where
   he explains how he made that track together with Nick
   Jones and Spanky.
  
   When you are looking for some good ol'acid house check
   the shit Armando
   made, he made some amazing stuff. Tracks like 1-5-1, Land
   of Confusion and
   Confusion Revenge still make me smile and bounce around.
  
   For more 313-related acid try WPA's Seawolf and the Acid
   Rain I - III
   records on Underground Resistance. The old stuff on UR
   has a lot of TB in
   it, Jupiter Jazz for instance...
  
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Just to expand my knowledge a bit more, I have been
   recently
interested in
acid/acid house and its history. When I think of this
   genre
Baby Ford and
portamento'd 303 basslines come to mind, but I'm sure I
   am either just
scratching the surface or overgeneralizing. The track
   Are
You Saved? by
Traxx and Deecoy on the Int. Deejay Gigolos comp. 5 got
   my
gears turning
mentally as to ask what the roots/sounds of acid truly
   are.
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RE: [313] acid (house)

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

he's got a new track out called dancin on nitegrooves that is great. i
expect it to be a big hit. i was glad to see pierre have a new record out,
as i used to be really into the sex trax/power music stuff. spanky, etc...

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What about DJ Pierre ? 

... he made 'Wild Pitch' famous throughout the European, Asian and
eventually US markets.

Just wondering because last time he played in NYC the flyer touted him as
being the originator of acid house. Of course you can't believe everything
you read on a flyer but i've heard this from other people as well.

-Pete
 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:01 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] acid (house)


Of course there a lot of different opinions on what was the first acid track
but i think i am fairly save when say it's Phuture's Acid Tracks. There is a
nice interview with Marshal Jefferson in the Modulations documentary where
he explains how he made that track together with Nick Jones and Spanky. 

When you are looking for some good ol'acid house check the shit Armando
made, he made some amazing stuff. Tracks like 1-5-1, Land of Confusion and
Confusion Revenge still make me smile and bounce around. 

For more 313-related acid try WPA's Seawolf and the Acid Rain I - III
records on Underground Resistance. The old stuff on UR has a lot of TB in
it, Jupiter Jazz for instance...

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 Greetings all.
 Just to expand my knowledge a bit more, I have been recently 
 interested in
 acid/acid house and its history. When I think of this genre 
 Baby Ford and
 portamento'd 303 basslines come to mind, but I'm sure I am either just
 scratching the surface or overgeneralizing. The track Are 
 You Saved? by
 Traxx and Deecoy on the Int. Deejay Gigolos comp. 5 got my 
 gears turning
 mentally as to ask what the roots/sounds of acid truly are.
 If possible, please post links/discogs/mixes.


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RE: [313] claude young tapes dated

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

dexit came out at the same time his dexit album came out.

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i bought the dexit tape at grammaphone in chicago fall of 1996.

 that night, mike dearborn threw his first Blast Off party with dj hell,
claude
young, miss djax, joey beltram, stacy pullen (jungle set).

damn, why aren't there events like that anymore? (rhetorical question)


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 someone sent me some tapes and i need them dated..

 claude young as you like it
 claude young dexit

 not recordings of tracks those dj promo ones

 thanks

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RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

was it green velvet that put out portamento tracks? i can't remember...
and i'm away from my records. 

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I think he is referring to Portamento or Glide which means when you play 2
notes or chords after each other. Instead of hearing two distinct sounds the
pitch 'glides' (either up or down) from the original pitch to the new one at
a rate specified by the amount of portamento set. A similar sound can be
made by using the pitch bend wheel. 

Most of the Roland groove boxes (tb303 and 202 etc) have a slide function
which creates this effect also, and most analog and virtual analog keyboards
have portamento.

Check paperclip people - oscillator for classic portamento slide.

Quest

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Forgive my ignorance, but what is a pitch slide?


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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:18:18 +

  in the neverending story of top fives..
 
  1. Eddie Fowlkes
  2. Carl Craig
  3. Lee Norris
  4. ..
 
  hmmm, any tips?

nort route... :)

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RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

two writers from the washington post have just published a book titled The
news about the news: American Journalism in Peril that in a large part
addresses this issue of LCD marketing, and the fallacy that highbrow news
has no audience.

the two were on fresh air the other day. you can listen to the show at:
http://freshair.npr.org/dayFA.cfm?display=daytodayDate=02%2F28%2F2002

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First of all, this is one of the most thought-provoking threads I've read
in a while (nit-picking over curse words aside)- I'm glad the opinions are
being voiced and I'd like to hear more from those like Laura who have a
lot of direct industry experience  with these issues.

 firing off cannons.  Recently while watching CNN, there was a news segment
 covering Elton John FLAMING the music industry for lowest common
denominator
 marketing.  He said that the good musicians and music were actively being
 passed over in favor of the rubbish msuic the industry was putting
out...He

Last night I saw a great PBS special that focused on this same problem of
LCD marketing- but in the realm of Film-Making- its called The Monster
that ate Hollywood. There are tons of interviews with industry analysts,
journalists, producers and directors up on their site at:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/hollywood/

I think these issues of Pop Culture, Global Economy, LCD Marketing, etc.
are common across the various realms of Arts  Entertainment  similar
things are happening in each field right now from an economic standpoint.

In terms of dance music getting serious attention-
I think the problem with house and techno is that there is not a good
stereotype of techno producer to market to teenage kids. I think the Major
Labels like to market stereotypes of Rebellious, Subversive, Cool, and
more recently pop-conscious-satiric characters that middle-class suburban
teens can relate to. The problem with house and techno is that when you
look for stereotypes- you have the gay club scene, the middle to lower
class minorities- but without the hip-hop egos and fashion, then also the
computer and synth geeks, none of which are sexy or cool to todays
teenagers. But when the London Rave scene appeared- here was something
more marketable- white kids sneaking out at night, taking drugs, and
partying to rave music, not to mention new marketable fashion trends to go
along with it. And of course, once they found something marketable, they
further bastardized the music into formulated candy-coated crap, just as
they did with disco 25 years ago.

PS- I'm not even going to bring up the race issue- a whole other can of
worms- but I agree that the race card is not over-used- it is still a
serious problem with deep roots in the social and political policies that
govern our country. People need to be aware of this especially as it
becomes more subtle and disguised by other issues.

-p


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RE: [313] Re: [konfused?] question

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

one to do it, and 5 to stand around and talk about how much better it was
back in the day...

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5. 1 to do it and 4 to say they can do it better.

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none. The dj hos do it.

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How many DJs does it take to screw in a lightbulb?



None, they have software to do that now.

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RE: [313] Alan Oldham's new comic book!

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

it's out. it was on the watts new release list two weeks ago, so ask your
local record shop to order it for you...

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Don't know and no it didn't - ya gotta love tease articles like that.

MEK



 

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Where would I be able to order this from?
and : Did it mention when it was going to be released?

_derek

On 2002.02.20 23:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 New issue of URB (March 2002) page 70. Alan has produced a new comic
 book
 The Sexy Adventures of Orietta St. Cloud plus there is apparently a
 CD
 with tracks by Alan, Jeff Mills, Brian Zentz, Stewart Walker, The
 Advent
 and Terrence Dixon to go along with it! If the graphic on the magazine
 page
 is anything to go by - it's going to be great.

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RE: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

well, we all know what a great success World Party was!

what credibility!!

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I'll even say further that Pop Culture themselves has experience in 
organizing (or have been involved in) huge events and festivals in the 
past (i.e. as far as I know, the 'World Party' and the Jazz Festival) so 
that's the 'promoter' component there.  As if Carl had previous 
experience in putting together a huge festival on his own. To be quite 
frank, it seems to me alot of 'buddies' were picked to play the last two 
years.  

Flame, flame,

--G.

(Truth Be Told) wrote:

 Why would it be necessary to have promoters? Don't they bring in their
 favorites anyway or do they bring in big names for a big payday? If 
 you look
 at the first statement if the Free Press article: A seven-member board of
 longtime Detroit techno musicians will choose the artist lineup... the
 panel is there only to choose the talent they don't need to know how it
 works (festival producer/promoter = Pop Culture Media). I would think that
 traveling and developing relationships with other DJs/artists, they 
 are more
 then qualified to choose a lineup. The fact there are 7 shows there 
 will be
 checks and balances where someone couldn't just bring in their buddies
 (perhaps as before). Plus, most of them have been around almost 20 
 years and
 know who was there from the start.
 I'm hopeful too that they'll produce a good lineup and keep the spirit
 alive.

 Truth

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RE: [313] transllusion

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

it was a f*cking joke. 

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To Holly,

All REAL artist has a mental health disorder not recognized by professional 
psychology organizations, but this illness affect all artists. Although 
there is no statistical evidence per se, it is fair to assume the illness is

widespread. The illness is called CMPD: Creative Multiple Personality 
Disorder. Songwriters and bands suffer from a variation of this illness 
called MCS: Multiple Category Syndrome. Listen this  :

Psychologist: So what kind of music do you write?

Band member: Well, we got this tune, it's not really metal, even though all

the guys in the band have a lot of hair. It sorta has a Muddy Waters 
undertone but I wouldn't say blues 'cause of the synth parts, which sorta 
add a Euro-techno feel. The guitar player wears cowboy boots and comes from 
Texas, so you can hear the country twang influence. But then when the lead 
singer decided to sing it in Spanish and play maracas at the same time, 
well, then obviously the piece is Latin dance...(long pause) I'm not sure, 
really

Avoid general assumptions, and assuming too much.
You get it ? Do you ?


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|probably nazi's, porn and water.
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|can someone translate this drexciya related interview for us...
|
|http://www.technoidz.de/transllusion.htm
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|or just in say what it is all about
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|thanks
|bye
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RE: [313] transllusion

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

probably nazi's, porn and water.

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can someone translate this drexciya related interview for us...

http://www.technoidz.de/transllusion.htm

or just in say what it is all about

thanks
bye
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RE: [313] Theo/JAN/Malik -- Valentine's at Mixworks

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

hold you're horses! it's only afternoon here!!

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well, sheeiit

will someone tell us what this was like - i'm frickin dyin' down here
(sydney)!!!


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 Thursday, February 14
 Mixworks Valentine Party
 
 Theo Parrish, Sound Signature -- Detroit
 Malik Pittman, Sound Signature -- Detroit
 J.A.N. -- Detroit
 
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RE: RE: [313] about the members

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

 new old skool hardcore

that's a good one...

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RE: [313] about the members

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

ok, here goes... the peer pressure has gotten to me...

sex: f
age: 26
born  raised: detroit area
currently living: salt lake city, ut
occupation: marketing analyst for a top 10 etailer
records: about 1500 that don't get played enough
313: list sub for 7 years 
music: hard core house-head

peace,
h

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RE: [313] about the members huh

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

well, i much prefer it to another mills or hawtin discussion.

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yeah im a whiner! no its fine! glad to see people coming out of woodwork and

not just 313 celebs..
i'm really curious to read these bios and stuff but i just dont want several

hundred strangers telling me about themselves at once...


no not everyone has to answer, some can just whine,
like someone always does wa issue that or this :)
and i know only us residents and i will answer cause its kinda american
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[313] off chance?

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

does anyone want to part with a copy of junior sanchez's 2morrow's future
2day? my copy was stolen... and i NEED this record... i miss it...
 
tia,
h

Holly MacDonald-Korth 
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Overstock.com 
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RE: [313] article in Salon.com mentions Strings of Life

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

WTF is office-party music?

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http://www.salon.com/ent/music/review/2002/01/29/chemical/index.html

There's a really irritating review of the new Chemical Brothers album that
mentions Strings of Life and the birth of Detroit techno in today's
Salon.com.

Brian Dillard

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RE: [313] Carl Craig in the UK, live on BBC on 30 12 2001

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

those are from 4/2001

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At 1/11/2002 +0100 22:49, you wrote:
Did anybody catch it as mp3 ?
I would love to hear it
Also his mix at Zuidas should be finished ;-)

there's already four hours up!

http://www.rushhour.nl/broad.html

and the other sets are nice as well ;)

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RE: [313] NYE letdown

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Kevin wrote:

girl decided to pick a fight with mine and Dennis'
wife 

you two share a wife? how forward thinking of you...

here in utah we share husbands.

 
 D
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:41 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] NYE letdown
 
 i am not sure if this has already been discussed,
 but
 i thought that this NYE was sub-par.  I went to
 porter
 street.  the line-up had shaped up to be awesome
 with
 boo wiliams, glenn underground, minx, rick wilhite,
 and waxmaster d smooth.  
 
 i thought the music all night was awesome.  i also
 thought that rick wilhite was amazing.  but there
 were
 only 35 people there (max).  maybe ten people at the
 most danced all night.  the ball drop moment was
 much
 like a premature orgasm...you were happy it happened
 but wished it would have happened differently.  i do
 have to give props to porterstreet, they had great
 dj's, a buffet, good sound, and still the stiffest
 cranberry and vodkas known to man.  I just have one
 question...WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE PEOPLE WANTING
 TO
 PARTY?  was it like that at other clubs across
 the
 city and country?  
 -sam
 
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RE: [313] Pump Up The Volume - on the net

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

YOU RULE!!!

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Evening!

I've just sent a video copy of the 3 episodes to Gerard Rose at the deep 
house page (www.deephousepage.com), so hopefully at least the first 
programme will be up in real video format. Although may take awhile, with 
the xmas postal rush.

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RE: [313] agents of change

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

 Mxyzptlk wrote:
 Some people simply don't dance and gasp it is NOT a crime. 
 Some people DO and that is not a crime, either 

unless you are in NYC


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RE: [313] record stores in DC

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

there's yoshi toshi in georgetown and 12 dance (mostly house  hip hop) at
dupont circle on 18th street, i think... jeez... my memory of dc is foggy
after only one year...

i love 12... course i'm the biggest house head EVER.

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:04 PM
To: Rusty Blasco
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
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Hmm. . .  Not much. . . d.c. cd's on 18th and u(?) has a small selection.
It's not their specialty, but i've found some interesting things there.

There's another store whose name i forget. . . it's on connecticut less
than a block north of dupont circle.  I don't think they carry vinyl, but
their cds are great and perhaps ocassionally rare.



ben




On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Rusty Blasco wrote:

 Does anyone know of anything exciting happening at Buzz, or anywhere else
in
 DC for that matter, the weekend of December 7 (which happens to be
 approximately a week and a half from today)?  I'll be staying with a good
 friend until Sunday and would love to take advantage of whatever may be on
 the menu.  Also, any recommendations for music stores that supply an
 adequate share of techno?  Thanks for your input.

 Rusty

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RE: [313] hard to find?

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

this is one of my top 25 of all time!

good luck finding it! it's well worth the effort...

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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:53 AM
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Dear detroit techhno lovers,

is this hard to find or am I just not looking too well?

silenth phase - the rewired mixes (transmat 0 / rs)

I looked in almost every possible belgian store. 
I searched on GEMM.com and nothing.. 
juno.com nothing
rub-adub and nothing
even recordtimes has no copies..

wich online store should I try?

Thanks,
Maarten



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RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

aren't walker and khan air liquide???

look for stuff out as air liquide... i have a killer 2x10 from about 5 years
ago...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:30 AM
To: Batory, Jason; 'FC3 Richards'
Cc: '313'
Subject: RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN


The Khan who produced for DJungle Fever also produced as Bizz OD, which I 
believe is the name that most of the DJungle Fever releases are under. I 
believe he's from NY and did acid techno with a house touch here and there. 
I've also seen his name as Khan Oral. He also did a good deal of work on 
the Force Inc. label in the mid 90's.

I have a few of the Force releases and a few of the DJungle Fever ones as 
well. They are all quite good acid techno/house.

That's all I know.

At 01:12 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Batory, Jason wrote:
Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out there. One is a
group of 3 guys producing tribal house and the other is a New Yorker, who
has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for Playhouse. The
latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No Comprendo, which I
really
like mainly because its quite different to everything else at the moment -
a
mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest vocals including Jon
Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't know if it's the
same Khan you have, or think you have. ???

Respect
JasonB

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  Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
 
  I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm broke) and i
  really
  enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if there are any
  other
  good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i heard he used to do
  some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is the farthest
  thing
  from this release since everything i have heard off of that label has
been
  hard acid (good too!)...
  and since i am thinking about dying and everything because of this
funeral
  music thread i was thinking that i would probably play soemthing more
  ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I absolutely love the
  dub
  CD on the K  D Sessions.  i think i would have that played...if i was
to
  be
  loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would have to go with
  Three
  Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...
 
 
  but i'm not dying...
 
  jeff
 
 
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RE: [313] Groovetech/BetaLounge

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

yeah... i've been trying to get in all morning!

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No, but I can't get into Beta Lounge for two days now. I NEED to record the 
Isolee set for my upcoming trip!
Anyone else having problems with Beta Lounge?

MEK


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Subject: [313] Groovetech site
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:06:12 -0400

Anyone else having difficulty with accessing the site this morning?
I'm getting a 'cannot find server' page.

-dave

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RE: [313] Techno for funerals

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

not techno... 

but roy daivs jr. gabriel

there is also that joe claussel track jazz funeral that would be good...
but i have wanted gabriel played at my funeral since the first time i
heard it.

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:33 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Techno for funerals


Oi!

Which techno track do you want to be played at your funeral?
My last wish would be: The Martian  Model 500 - Search your Feelings 
(RedPlanet-4)

R.
(hey...just asking!)


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RE: [313] LIQUID AND MIKE GRANT

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I have been there for Respect a couple times, and it was everyone...

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On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, SDS wrote:
 
 FYI,
 
 And you can get the same vibe with Mike Grant, in Paris next Friday,
October
 the 5th, at Le Queen.
 Enjoy!
 

Is this a 'all-sexual-preferences' night there? Not that I'm in Paris 
(I wish).  It might matter to some people there ...


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RE: [313] LIQUID AND MIKE GRANT

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I have been there for Respect a couple times, and it was everyone...

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On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, SDS wrote:
 
 FYI,
 
 And you can get the same vibe with Mike Grant, in Paris next Friday,
October
 the 5th, at Le Queen.
 Enjoy!
 

Is this a 'all-sexual-preferences' night there? Not that I'm in Paris 
(I wish).  It might matter to some people there ...


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RE: [313] New Hip Hop + New Soul?

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

is this jaydee the same jaydee as in plastic dreams?

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
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At 8/7/2001 -0400 08:48, you wrote:
Alright, I used the s word :)

some obvious, but lovely new soul and hiphop album recommendations,
(me i digging deeply!!)

: india.arie - acoustic soul
: jill scott - who is.. ?
: erykah badu - mama's gun
: common - like water for chocolate
: bilal - 1st born second
: lauryn hill - the miseducation..
: mos def - black on both sides
: hi tek - hi-teknology
: company flow - funcrusher plus
: mos def  talib kweli - black star
: hi tek  talib kweli - reflection eternal
: slum village - fantastic vol. 2
: jaydee - welcome 2 detroit

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RE: [313] how was technomoto fest?

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

that used to be a famous claude young's trick...

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Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:01 AM
To: Kyle J Dupuy
Cc: Geoffrey Richards; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] how was technomoto fest?


On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Kyle J Dupuy wrote:
I just read this and wondered what exactly you meant by upside down
and
  backwards.  Was Christian standing at the decks back to the audience,
  playing a track which grooved from the inside out?
  I was just trying to get an image of what you meant.
  -geoff
 
 no, i don't think he was shunning his audience.  i think scott simply
 meant that christian was playing the track backwards as a result of the
 cartridge being placed underneath the record.
 
This is a trick that I think Juan Atkins has used from time to time.
You put a spool (like your momma gets her thread on for sewing) on
the spindle, put the record on top, take the headshell off and put
it on upside-down, and adjust the counterweight all the way out so
it pulls the cartridge up to the record.

It's a neat trick but I've had too much trouble with pulling off
headshells in the middle of the set to want to try it ;-)


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RE: [313] all access special guest

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

moodyman live

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Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:25 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] all access special guest


who was the special guest at Planet E's All Access party?


ken
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RE: [313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Gill Scott Heron.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:24 PM
To: kharris; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics


Ha funny you mention this
(and crazy if you wrote all the lines down ;-)

But clearly  this is a woman that didn't have sex for a longtime ;-0
sarah jones that is

I heard  the revolution will not be televised on VPRO radio in 1998 (still
have it on tape lying around !-)
It was told by a london 'heroin'  junk (could be sarah jones?) if I
rememeber correctly

Anyway The Vadim track starts with the piece bout the 'proto' rapper who
wrote the revolution will not be televised
forgot his name :( gill scot harris of something, maybe a male ?

But still fine lyrics

Dj DMT
n.p. farleybmx at deephousepage.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: [313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics


 KBOO is a great radio station in portland..they just got a $7,000 fine for
 broadcasting the lyrics below...in case you don't get it the lyrics are a
 _protest_ to all the male posturing etc. that goes on in hiphop/rap
circles
 (but is by no means limited to this genre) and yet instead of choosing one
of
 the more openly misogynistic songs they chose a feminist criticism of them
as
 someone to silence
 -k

 as a side note bell hooks has a nice essay on how it's been the hiphop/rap
 artists who have been singled out for this behavior when it's really
behavior
 that's endemic..



 Original Message Follows
 From:
 http://www.wweek.com/flatfiles/News12601693.html#rogue

 [Full FCC complaint also reproduced at URL above.]

 Radio Station:   KBOO-FM, Portland, Oregon
 Date/Time Broadcast:October 20, 1999, on the Soundbox, between 7:00 p.m.
 and 9:00 p.m.
 Material Broadcast:  Your Revolution

 (Various female voices)

 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Will not happen between these thighs
 Will not happen between these thighs
 The real revolution ain't about bootie size
 The Versaces you buys
 Or the Lexus you drives
 And though we've lost Biggie Smalls
 Maybe your notorious revolution
 Will never allow you to lace no lyrical douche in my bush
 Your revolution will not be you killing me softly with fujees
 Your revolution ain't gonna knock me up without no ring
 And  produce little future M.C.'s
 Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not find me in the back seat of a jeep
 With L.L. hard as hell, you know
 Doing it and doing and doing it well, you know
 Doing it and doing it and doing it well
 Your revolution will not be you smacking it up, flipping it or rubbing it
 down
 Nor will it take you downtown, or humping around
 Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not have me singing
 Ain't no nigger like the one I got
 Your revolution will not be you sending me for no drip drip V.D. shot
 Your revolution will not involve me or feeling your nature rise
 Or having you fantasize
 Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
 No no not between these thighs
 Uh-uh
 My Jamaican brother
 Your revolution will not make you feel boombastic, and really fantastic
 And have you groping in the dark for that rubber wrapped in plastic
 Uh-uh
 You will not be touching your lips to my triple dip of
 French vanilla, butter pecan, chocolate deluxe
 Or having Akinyele's dream, um hum
 A six foot blow job machine, um hum
 You wanna subjugate your Queen, uh-huh
 Think I'm gonna put it in my mouth just because you
 Made a few bucks,
 Please brother please
 Your revolution will not be me tossing my weave
 And making me believe I'm some caviar eating ghetto
 Mafia clown
 Or me giving up my behind
 Just so I can get signed
 And maybe have somebody else write my rhymes
 I'm Sarah Jones
 Not Foxy Brown
 You know I'm Sarah Jones
 Not Foxy Brown
 Your revolution makes me wonder
 Where could we go
 If we could drop the empty pursuit of props and the ego
 We'd revolt back to our roots
 Use a little common sense on a quest to make love
 De la soul, no pretense, but
 Your revolution will not be you flexing your little sex and status
 To express what you feel
 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Will not happen between these thighs
 Will not be you shaking
 And me, [sigh] faking between these thighs
 Because the real revolution
 That's right, I said the real revolution
 You know, I'm talking about the revolution
 When it comes,
 It's gonna be real
 It's gonna be real
 It's gonna be real
 When it finally comes
 It's gonna be real



 DJ Vadim feat. Sarah Jones Your Revolution Ninjatune records 2000

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RE: [313] jak

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Kenny Larkin's set was immaculate.  Kit Clayton impressed me way more than
Autechre.  John Acquaviva dropping that track (what is it) which made
the sun come out :-).  Seeing Laurent do 'Acid Eiffel' live.  D. Wynn's set
(except for the damn m.c.)  Regrettably I missed Fred Giannelli's
set.sigh...

the sun came out during that electric avenue remix... but it came out a
couple other times too...

still reeling from exhaustion...
h

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[313] planet e party

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

well, i guess carl  company can throw an alright party,  huh?

best party i've been to in years. that is what my life is about.

i love detroit.

peace,
holly



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[313] Recall: cd skip

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

Holly MacDonald-Korth would like to recall the message, cd skip.

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RE: [313] Taxi in detroit

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

i got one from hertz for 5 days and i think it's $85 or so. totally
reasonable!

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Damn, y'all might as well rent cars for the amount of money you'll spend 
on cabs. Depends on how long you're going to be there, bu I would say it's 
well worth it. I did some research and, if I'm not mistaken, I believe I
could 
find decent cars for around $80-90 + tax, etc. for 4 or 5 days. It was
pretty 
cheap; more so than most places.

Plus, you just want to have your own ride in tha D.

-Jason

 On 10 May 2001, T.J.Johnson wrote:
  I took a cab home from downtown to my house in Redfor (20 minute 
drive) and the cab fare
was 35 bucks.  Outrageous i know=(
 
 Egads! Is there a cheaper way that won't result in a likely mugging at 5
 in the morning?
 
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RE: [313] Interesting Insight

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

her name is diana. not diane.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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i think that what nick and diane are saying is right..to use the ford motor
company as basically a rich aunt and go to their festival and be glad
someone forked over some cash to foot the bill for the talent that we are
going to get to see and the production but yet not to be all showing
gratitude by buying their car. i think somehow though that maybe demf lost a
little bit of it's majick but not all...the music is free still and it's not
lost any of it's quality. until i see keoki headlining, i won't bitch too
much.

the only problematic thing that ford focus could possibly do at this point
is try and charge admission for the detroit electronic music festival
somewhere down the line. they credit the success of their automobile on
their ad campaign and i guess they think they can sell us more cars by
sponsoring a music festival to get their automobile more attention or
whatever. i don't think most of us are going to buy into it. their ad
campaign is brilliant and j walter thompson (the ad agency that did the
commercial in question) did a wonderful job of putting the commercial
together (too bad the rest of their commercials are pure shite...i pretty
much watch commercials for a living and i did a bit of research on them in
the company database...heh...basically, that commercial was a one-off for
them with the ford motor company who uses a few other ad agencies with a
much better track record, imho. that commercial was truly a fluke.) if you
read up on all the press releases done by the !
ford motor company, apparently the ad campaign did its job and sold a lot of
cars. the ford focus did win awards for car of the year in both america and
europe, too. i don't think it had anything to do with a bunch of technoheads
buying the car, though, because i think most of us are smarter than that. i
don't know a single soul personally who bought one of them and i sure know i
wouldn't. i just don't know how long the ford focus sponsorship will last if
their sales start dwindling. 

i do believe that when people start getting too much recognition for their
creative efforts, a lot of the time, production quality starts disappearing.
out of that, comes stagnation and the inability to further create. too many
people are content to rest upon their laurels instead of being moved to
innovate and forge further into their art. but there are always going to be
the people who are in their basements or bedrooms who are unknown who create
a sound never heard before and it will replace the same ol' same ol' and
eventually, we will all come to the realization that if you don't think
forward and move forward, you get left behind, just the same way a lot of
producers of the past are who just don't feel the need to keep current with
their ideas. there is the recognition that their material was innovative and
inspiring, but i think most of us are intelligent enough to discern the
difference between being good NOW and being good THEN. this is why i give
recognition to cer!
tain djs and producers, yet i don't feel that just because i enjoy their
older stuff and they paved the way for artists whom i enjoy now, that i have
to book them, listen to their stuff that has completely fallen off in
quality, or buy their cds or whatever just because of who they are. too bad
not everyone recognizes that. i am just glad that there will always be
people out there who will make something that isn't tired and played and
will produce quality releases and not just rest on past triumphs.

just my personal opinions, take 'em or leave them...
lauryn.





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RE: [313] DEMF FORD COPERATE SPONSORSHIP

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

It's unfortunate that in our naive desires to make everything bigger, badder
and bolder at every opportunity, we widen whatever distance there is between
us and the things that made use do it in the first place.  What fills this
void is usually nothing more than money and bullshit.


wow. word. truer words have rarely been spoken.

peace,
h

RE: [313] more political crap from me (OT)

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

GO ANI. i have been a libertarian for years. 

peace,
h

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i have one thing to say:

check out the libertarian party

http://www.lp.org/
http://www.mi.lp.org/

ani
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From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [313] more political crap from me (OT)


 I think it's really important that people not
 actually reject him, but stay informed of him and what
 the people in charge are doing. I think Washington is
 counting on certain portions of the younger audience
 to not stay informed, read the news and be involved
 due to who is in office b/c they don't relate. I don't
 chase the news, but simply reading MSN or Yahoo
 headlines (both postings I got from one or the other)
 is important-no matter which political way you go.On
 the brighter side, perhaps by stealthly watching Bush
 we'll learn what it is exactly we want in office next
 timeand apparently it can't come soon enough IMHO.
 
 
  The white house is turning into a tree house.
 
 done w/the sermon and apologies for further
 encouraging OT.
 d
 
 
 
 --- M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's about time too.
  
  MEK
  
  
  From: Kevin Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: [313] more political crap from me (OT)
  Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:12:09 -0700 (PDT)
  
  I laughed my ass of when I read that (in a black
  comedy type of way).  I wish Bush would realize the
  US
  isn't king of the world. This is just a signal to
  him
  of that fact.  Maybe in time he'll learn to work
  with
  the rest of the world, instead of trying to tell
  everyone what to do.  But I doubt it.  :)
  
  Kevin
  
  p.s. much appreciative of the info
  
  
  --- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I got a lot of reactions from the first alike
post(seems I'm not the only into (learning
about)politics) so I thought I'd post this too.
   
Basically, the US has been ousted from the UN
  Human
Right's body-which it founded.Go Bush.
   
   
 
 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010504/ts/un_usa_rights_dc_5.html
   
sorry.
Diana
   
   
   
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RE: [313] more political crap from me (OT) - Bush

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

hey are swearwords getting thru now??? yahoo!!

i LOVE to swear.

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I hated Bush Sr., and the guy was an evil, meniacal, lying piece of shit.
But 
I gotta say, at least he had SOME kind of intelligence. Bush Jr. is so 
insanely STUPID, it's mindblowing! That's the REALLY scary thing about 
this guy! It's like he never truely got past fruit loops and Capt. Kangaroo!

And his finger (that was just up his nose) is on the fuckin' BUTTON! He's 
talking to the Chinese like they're a bunch of lightweight idiots. God, that
is 
so fuckin' stupid and un-diplomatic! I personally think that they, and their

potential allies, could stand pretty strong against the US if the shit
really 
hit the fan. How come Clinton didn't have any significant problems with 
them for eight years? And he's so ugly, man! I heard some supermodel 
on Politically Correct during the campaign being like, weell, Bush really 
has the charm and good looks that Gore doesn't have. What!!??!!!

I'm no big patriot, believe me. But the guy was a fuckin' draft dodger,
pussy 
piece of shit, and he's got the nerve to act like Mr. Gung Ho military man. 
Fuckin' hypocrite.

Oh, and not to mention he stole the national election The media so 
conveniently glossed over the hugely controversial election issue, just 
weeks after all that shit went down. Anyone else notice that?

 Bush is trying to hard to be like daddy.
 
 
 
 
 
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 To:   George Jones/US/ABNAMRO/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 cc:
 Subject:  Re: [313] more political crap from me (OT) - Bush
 
 
 The other day a friend of mine told me about some survey he read in
 which 3 out of 5  African-Americans refused to even recognize George
 Bush as their president. Now, I don't know the validity of these
 statistics,
 but it would not at all surprise me.
 
 -J
 
  Time to impeach the president.
 
 
 
 
 
  diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/04/2001 11:34:18 AM
 
  To:   enlighten 313@hyperreal.org
  cc:
  Subject:  [313] more political crap from me (OT)
 
 
 
  I got a lot of reactions from the first alike
  post(seems I'm not the only into (learning
  about)politics) so I thought I'd post this too.
 
  Basically, the US has been ousted from the UN Human
  Right's body-which it founded.Go Bush.
 
 
 
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010504/ts/un_usa_rights_dc_5.html
 
  sorry.
  Diana
 
 
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RE: [313] more political crap from me (OT)

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

let us not forget the church of jesus christ of latter day saints!!! 

-Original Message-
From: ollie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:38 PM
To: laura gavoor
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] more political crap from me (OT)


Very wrong...largest corporations:

1. Roman Catholic Church
2. Church of England (i.e. the Queen)
3. the rest

I can't beleive the amount of traffic on the list!!

ollie
www.forwardmusic.com (stay tuned for a major update this weekend, I'll let
you
know)


laura gavoor wrote:

 Remember one thing and one thing only with regard to this whole
 topic.the United States Government is THE BIGGEST CORPORATION in the
 world.  Somehow, with that in mind, all other related topics (especially
 during any Republican regime ;( simply fall into place...in other
 words...their behavior makes perfect sense under that premise.

 I rather favor the Green Party misself.  Used to be the Transcendental
 Meditation Party (honestly :).  Jim Hagelin (sp.?) is an amazing intellect
 whose whole paltform is that in order to survive without taxing the
natural
 resources and to ensure NO ONE does without...Quantum Physics msut be
 applied.  I believe he is a Harvard or Yale Physicistdunno for sure,
but
 truly inspirational to hear this man's perspective.

 From: Mike Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] more political crap from me (OT)
 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:14:27 -0400
 
 yeah, corporate america has displayed such good citizenship; lets get rid
 of
 all those nasty laws the provide minimum wages, workers rights, food
 inspection, FDA medicine testing, environmental protections, consumer
 safety
 laws...
 
 ya know, things were so much better for the average person in the 19th
 century. Lets forget about how regulation has helped the average consumer
 in
 the 20th century. It isn't a big deal, I know we can rely on corporate
 altruism. It worked so well in the 1800's.
 
 I do not mean to sound like a whiney middle class anti-corporate college
 student, but c'mon! Read Howard Zinn's A People's History of The United
 States of America, and then tell me that the liberatarian party is going
 to
 make the US a better place to live.
 
 I think their approach to personal freedom and social responsiblity is
 good,
 but a complete laissez faire approach to government is unrealistic as
best,
 and frankly dangerous at worst. All the things that dubya is doing right
 now
 that are scary would happen under the libratarians as well. The WTO is
 scary, do you want to open the door even wider for organizations like
that?
 
 I voted for John Brown in 96, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out
 what I was thinking.
 
 Take care,
 Mike
 
 From: Holly MacDonald-Korth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'ani' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] more political crap from me (OT)
 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:27:36 -0600
 
 GO ANI. i have been a libertarian for years.
 
 peace,
 h
 
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 From: ani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:23 AM
 To: 313
 Subject: Re: [313] more political crap from me (OT)
 
 
 i have one thing to say:
 
 check out the libertarian party
 
 http://www.lp.org/
 http://www.mi.lp.org/
 
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 From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [313] more political crap from me (OT)
 
 
   I think it's really important that people not
   actually reject him, but stay informed of him and what
   the people in charge are doing. I think Washington is
   counting on certain portions of the younger audience
   to not stay informed, read the news and be involved
   due to who is in office b/c they don't relate. I don't
   chase the news, but simply reading MSN or Yahoo
   headlines (both postings I got from one or the other)
   is important-no matter which political way you go.On
   the brighter side, perhaps by stealthly watching Bush
   we'll learn what it is exactly we want in office next
   timeand apparently it can't come soon enough IMHO.
  
  
The white house is turning into a tree house.
  
   done w/the sermon and apologies for further
   encouraging OT.
   d
  
  
  
   --- M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's about time too.
   
MEK
   
   
From: Kevin Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] more political crap from me (OT)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:12:09 -0700 (PDT)

I laughed my ass of when I read that (in a black
comedy type of way).  I wish Bush would realize the
US
isn't king of the world. This is just

RE: [313] Interesting Insight

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

interesting fact...

last year, ford was promoting the focus, by choosing cool scenesters and
giving them cars. in nyc, jackie christie (formerly of the d) got one...

peace,
h

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From: John Sokolowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Interesting Insight


I caught this re-run of Frontline last night also. Watching the show, it was

hard not to think of the Ford marketing campaign with regard to Techno. 
There were many parallels between what marketing firms do with regard to 
selling to teens and how Ford is marketing the Focus.

It would be interesting to see the results of the focus (no pun intended) 
groups Ford conducted with people in their late teens and early 20s to 
determine what is 'cool.' Seemingly, they discovered the techno/electronic 
music/rave/dance scene.

They have a great marketing plan with sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. 
Considering the type of people who attend these types of events along with 
other 'rave' type events are mostly white, upper-class kids in their late 
teens and early 20s who can afford a Focus.

A Focus is after all, the lowest class of car Ford makes. The best thing 
Ford can do is make it appealing to those who can afford it.

Marketers are the best sociologists.

Cheers.


From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Interesting Insight
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 00:39:20 -0400

Mildly offtopic, and I apologize in advance

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/

Documentary on the feedback loop between what 's cool and what marketers
use to be down with teens.

Conclusion is that Detroit's own ICP is ripe for being co-opted.   KISS2
anyone?

I'm thankful that true Detroit techno escaped by virtue of its happening
early enough, and under the radar.

What I wonder though:
Detroit has a tradition of musical innovation, which might be subject to
greater attention in the near future.

What other scenes are still virgin and raging?
--
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RE: [313] Interesting Insight

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

jesus... i hate it when there are commas where they don't belong. 
i apologize to anyone this typo caused pain.

-Original Message-
From: Holly MacDonald-Korth 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:36 AM
To: 'John Sokolowski'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Interesting Insight


interesting fact...

last year, ford was promoting the focus, by choosing cool scenesters and
giving them cars. in nyc, jackie christie (formerly of the d) got one...

peace,
h

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From: John Sokolowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Interesting Insight


I caught this re-run of Frontline last night also. Watching the show, it was

hard not to think of the Ford marketing campaign with regard to Techno. 
There were many parallels between what marketing firms do with regard to 
selling to teens and how Ford is marketing the Focus.

It would be interesting to see the results of the focus (no pun intended) 
groups Ford conducted with people in their late teens and early 20s to 
determine what is 'cool.' Seemingly, they discovered the techno/electronic 
music/rave/dance scene.

They have a great marketing plan with sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. 
Considering the type of people who attend these types of events along with 
other 'rave' type events are mostly white, upper-class kids in their late 
teens and early 20s who can afford a Focus.

A Focus is after all, the lowest class of car Ford makes. The best thing 
Ford can do is make it appealing to those who can afford it.

Marketers are the best sociologists.

Cheers.


From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Interesting Insight
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 00:39:20 -0400

Mildly offtopic, and I apologize in advance

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/

Documentary on the feedback loop between what 's cool and what marketers
use to be down with teens.

Conclusion is that Detroit's own ICP is ripe for being co-opted.   KISS2
anyone?

I'm thankful that true Detroit techno escaped by virtue of its happening
early enough, and under the radar.

What I wonder though:
Detroit has a tradition of musical innovation, which might be subject to
greater attention in the near future.

What other scenes are still virgin and raging?
--
There4IM


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RE: [313] DEMF Update

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

could someone announce this party ONE MORE TIME???

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Subject: [313] DEMF Update


Sunday, May 27 
TrustTheDJ.com presents 

Treatment 

Adam Beyer 
Marco Carola 
Ben Simms 
Funk D'Void 
Jay Denham 
Suburban Knight 
Punisher 

and more TBA 

One-X 
2575 Michigan Avenue 
Detroit 


I hope to see everyone there!

PEACE

Ben   :)

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RE: [313] Quick question...

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

i am a home listener and very poor dj (ie, i have no gigs, and spin mostly
for my dog)

peace,
h

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 7:41 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Quick question...


Peace.

Many who know me, are still baffled as to why I dont have  
a darn T-Table.  Some have told me that 80% of the best
techno and house/tech-house comes out on vinyl only.  Just as  
others are bewildered by me not having a t-table, so too am I
with EVERYONE having onethus my question is this...

How many people, in anyones estimation, spin for a club, or  
DJ at private gigs, etc.  As oppossed to those who just buy
vinyl just to listen to the 80%-good stuff on vinyl?
(I really wanna freak'n know too)

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first mix

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

hey... my boss asked me last night, and I didn't know.

who (or when) first decided to mix records and figured out how to cue and
x-fade, etc? what equipment did they use? ie, i assume there weren't mixers
with crossfaders then.

RE: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

is this mixed? and if so, by whom?

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From: Tom Robbins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:18 AM
To: 313 mailing list
Subject: [313] Peacefrog 100th release


Look what popped through the door today... mmm, Peacefrog...

Peacefrog presents: 10.100
Released 28th May (UK)
Cat. no. PF100. Format: 2XCD (doesn't say if is coming out on vinyl, but I
assume it will)

Tracklisting:

CD1:
Purveyors Of Fine Funk: Ashes Smashing Red
Paul Johnson: Caught Up In Your Love
David Alvarado: Beautification
Ron trent: Love
Theo Parrish: Heal Yourself And Move
Dan Curtin: Spliffed
Norma Jean Bell: Your Perfect
Chris Brann: Journey To The Centre
Charles Webster: Sweet Butterfly
Planetary Assault Systems: Booster
Infiniti: Sunlight

CD2:
John Beltran: Collage Of Dreams
Sunchildren: The Flow
Wamdue Kids: Whirlwind
Glenn Underground: Entercourse Of The New Age
DBX: LosingControl
Neuropolitique: Mind You Don't Trip
Placid Angles: Everything Under The Sun
Ian O'Brien: Midday Sunshine
Moodymann: Mahogany Brown
Detroit Escalator Co.: Gathering Light
Luke Slater: Industive Channels
Stasis: Moody Ol' Teacher


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RE: [313] the drive home - demf 2000

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

hey... who is the blond chick with pigtails and the mic?

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To: ani
Cc: enlighten
Subject: Re: [313] the drive home - demf 2000


KICK *SS


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 pictures, along with the trailer are posted at:
 
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last year

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

hey guys...

since there are no 313 archives beyond march of 2000...

i was wondering if anyone has a copy of the lineup from last year's DEMF.

thanks,
h

RE: [313] 326

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

yep

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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:38 AM
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Isn't Duane Harden the person who sang the vocals for Armand's You Don't
Know Me:-)

Ciao,

Joel


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 I believe 326 was Duane Harden. The track Just Like Heaven received a
fabulous remix treatment by Armando and Mike Dunn on Muzique Records.

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dwynn track id

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

i know that i know this, but i am right now i am braindead.

could someone please id the track that starts around 43:30 or 44:00?

it's a deep house track with organ style keyboards and a nice deep kick with
reverse hi-hat.

thanks much kids.
h

RE: [313] dwynn track id

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

sorry everyone. i already said i was braindead this morning. 

I am referring to the dwynn demf set.

thanks,
h

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From: Holly MacDonald-Korth 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:07 AM
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: [313] dwynn track id


i know that i know this, but i am right now i am braindead.

could someone please id the track that starts around 43:30 or 44:00?

it's a deep house track with organ style keyboards and a nice deep kick with
reverse hi-hat.

thanks much kids.
h

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record dividers

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

hey...

i was wondering if anyone knows where to get those plastic dividers that
they have in record stores to separate the sections?

thanks,
h

track

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

does anyone know what the following track is? 
house track:  it has a sax loop with a female vocal saying the following:

si tu quieres... entonces moverte por eso ahora... el ritmo de verdad

peace,
h

RE: [313] track

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

not quite that is a literal translation... it's more like:

if you want, you better move your ass now, cause this is a dope ass beat.

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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:55 PM
To: Holly MacDonald-Korth
Subject: Re: [313] track



if you want. . .then move yourself for this. . .the rhythm of truth.

oh, sorry.  you probably wanted the artist.  :p


On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Holly MacDonald-Korth wrote:

 does anyone know what the following track is? 
 house track:  it has a sax loop with a female vocal saying the following:
 
 si tu quieres... entonces moverte por eso ahora... el ritmo de verdad
 
 peace,
 h
 
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