Re: (313) Regarding Rob Theakstons Message About free acid 12 for DEMFpeople
Hello, Submerge has finally listed the record on their site. Here is a link: http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=-001 Cheers Jared =) chris iyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/07/07 4:09 PM Hi do you have any more copies for sale? Submerge do not seem to be listing it. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Jared Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]~!B*+R^To: 313@hyperreal.org~!B*+R^Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:15 PM Subject: (313) Regarding Rob Theakstons Message About free acid 12 for DEMFpeople Hello, Just wanted to inform anyone that was still looking for one of these that a limited number are for sale at www.submerge.com Nice meeting everyone who came up to me at the fest. Sorry to those that missed the free ones, but the TNT remix is still worth a purchase. If you still want one and are not able to get one through submerge please email me, I have a limited amount left. Cheers, Jared Also here is a link to a promo mix I did for the fest including the TNT remix from -001 http://www.j4r3d.com/j4r3d.com_This_Mix_Did_Exist,_But_This_Is_Not_It.mp3 Tracklisting -- Mike Huckaby - Deep Transportation Vol. 2 - Harmonie Park Craig Connor - Manhunt: Rephlex Remixes, (I Fight Crime On My Tippy Toes By Bogdan Raczynski)Ê- Rockstar Games, Rephlex Isolee - Beau Mot Plage - Classic A Guy Called Gerald - Voodoo Ray - LD Records Kid606 - Who Still Kill Sound?, Live Acid Jam - Tigerbeat6 Jared Wilson's Drug Related Stories (TNT's Perceptions Remix) - Inner City - Good Life - Virgin Records DMX Krew - Many Worlds (The Collapse Of The Wave Function Volume 4) - Rephlex Mandroid - Robots Of Funk - Breakin' Records Kevin Yost - Free - i! Records Chester Beatty - Goldenball - Disq TNT - Analogue Acid Project 2 - TNT Din-St - Yamu D'-in - Schematic DJ Scud - No Love - Transparent Jamie Lidell - Freekin The Frame - Mosquito Mike Dearborn - An Acid Memory - Djax-Up-Beats DJ One Finger - House [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Missile Records Headroom - Insanitylurksnearheadroom - Compund AFX - Elephant Song - Rephlex Michaelangelo vs. Space DJz - Catharsis - Maze Cabbage Boy - The Lost Tapes Vol 1 1998-2000 - Noodles Recordings Ace of Clubs - Classid Trax - Paperplane Madonna 303 - Bass Signal - Structure Polygon Window - UT1 - dot - Warp Records 4 Hero - Cooking Up Yah Brain - Reinforced Records Bass Junkie - Myami Style - Touchin' Bass Ignition Technician - Eject - Template Green Velvet - Explorer - Relief Records -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/829 - Release Date: 6/2/2007 5:26 PM
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(313) Regarding Rob Theakstons Message About free acid 12 for DEMF people
Hello, Just wanted to inform anyone that was still looking for one of these that a limited number are for sale at www.submerge.com Nice meeting everyone who came up to me at the fest. Sorry to those that missed the free ones, but the TNT remix is still worth a purchase. If you still want one and are not able to get one through submerge please email me, I have a limited amount left. Cheers, Jared Also here is a link to a promo mix I did for the fest including the TNT remix from -001 http://www.j4r3d.com/j4r3d.com_This_Mix_Did_Exist,_But_This_Is_Not_It.mp3 Tracklisting -- Mike Huckaby - Deep Transportation Vol. 2 - Harmonie Park Craig Connor - Manhunt: Rephlex Remixes, (I Fight Crime On My Tippy Toes By Bogdan Raczynski)Ê- Rockstar Games, Rephlex Isolee - Beau Mot Plage - Classic A Guy Called Gerald - Voodoo Ray - LD Records Kid606 - Who Still Kill Sound?, Live Acid Jam - Tigerbeat6 Jared Wilson's Drug Related Stories (TNT's Perceptions Remix) - Inner City - Good Life - Virgin Records DMX Krew - Many Worlds (The Collapse Of The Wave Function Volume 4) - Rephlex Mandroid - Robots Of Funk - Breakin' Records Kevin Yost - Free - i! Records Chester Beatty - Goldenball - Disq TNT - Analogue Acid Project 2 - TNT Din-St - Yamu D'-in - Schematic DJ Scud - No Love - Transparent Jamie Lidell - Freekin The Frame - Mosquito Mike Dearborn - An Acid Memory - Djax-Up-Beats DJ One Finger - House [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Missile Records Headroom - Insanitylurksnearheadroom - Compund AFX - Elephant Song - Rephlex Michaelangelo vs. Space DJz - Catharsis - Maze Cabbage Boy - The Lost Tapes Vol 1 1998-2000 - Noodles Recordings Ace of Clubs - Classid Trax - Paperplane Madonna 303 - Bass Signal - Structure Polygon Window - UT1 - dot - Warp Records 4 Hero - Cooking Up Yah Brain - Reinforced Records Bass Junkie - Myami Style - Touchin' Bass Ignition Technician - Eject - Template Green Velvet - Explorer - Relief Records
RE: (313) witchunt of plaslaiko
I 3 the steel guitar lr2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/16/2005 10:55:25 AM Aw shucks y'all...gotta' tell ya'...steel guitar might be my new favorite instrument...you see them more often than 1200s in these here parts of Nashville. A rookie on pedal steel sounds better than a novice on decks. Leslie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:47 AM To: Derek Plaslaiko.; lr2 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) witchunt of plaslaiko Yes it's him. He has a southern accent now. :-) jeff now heres a thread thats got some potential! GMT + people : youve got an hour to kill before you get off work. let me have it! i havent taken a proper bashing round these parts in a while! also, is that you leslie? and... to close: Chicago people: im breaking up with all of you if you dont show up at tini martini on saturday. derek. On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, lr2 wrote: Has a nice track-name ring to it...although I'd like plaslaiko witchunt better I think...proper brooding 313-type track name...anyone up to making a track?
Re: (313) Now Playing
Soundmurderer - at nefarious.net tent Fuse-in 2005 Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/28/05 11:27 AM The Vision - Detroit
Re: (313) Mike Huckaby
Great DJ, period. Always impressed with his selection and smooth skills. If you have a chance to see I wouldnt pass it up. Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/13/05 2:26 PM Hey Rob, I saw him on an incredibly cold Tuesday night last January in Detroit- he was playing in a cool bar/cafe on Gratiot and had the most ridiculously wide selection of stuff in his bag- everything from Thelonius Monk to Black Dog (original copy of Parallel Squelch)- really knows his stuff Jason On 13 Apr 2005, at 16:55, Robert Taylor wrote: Thanks all, what I really meant to ask was what he was like as a DJ, rather than a producer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 April 2005 14:55 To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: AW: (313) Mike Huckaby great man from the D !!! very deep musical knowledge and pretty often the man in the background :) released on Rick Wade's 'Harmonie Park' and runs also his own label Deep Transportation', which released 01 and 02 already. btw: DT 02 is the only known picture 12 with a KDJ track on it ... great stuff not only for collectors!!! ... more info here: http://www.discogs.com/release/298778 you still should get it at some shops and I hardly suggest to get one of these, if you addicted to quality deep house from detroit recently also re-released my personal favourite 'Jazz Republic' on french label 'Funky Chocolate' irie dUb Never heard this fella - isn't he from Detroit? What's he like? ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ## ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
Re: (313) Apex twin
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/17/05 10:20AM -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] well. I agree to an extent. but you're also talking rubbish too. Of course he's not going to get ten years back, but that hardly means he's finished does it? just different. IMO you cant just go from making great stuff to making absolute nonsense for a decade to making good stuff again. different you could call it i suppose, but ridiculous is what i like to call it. i mean do people really listen to the richard james album still? really? tom andythepooh.com yes=)
Re: (313) Apex twin
crazy how sublective music can be eh? Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/17/05 10:25AM - Original Message -- From: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:20 AM 2/17/2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: i mean do people really listen to the richard james album still? really? actually i do. and come to daddy from time to time as well. wow. thats nuts. i just got that chris cunningham dvd so i was watching his videos for aphex the other night. great videos but i cant stand the songs. when you listen to RDJ, do you skip through the milkman's wife track? i couldnt listen to that twice in my life, it was pure novelty for me. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) si begg
Which album are you refering to as being poo? matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/04 2:54 PM I was listening to some old stuff in the racks at the radio station and came across S.I. Futures - The Mission Statement. Right now listening to The News, and it's making me smile. Too bad his last album was poo. :( -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
(313) 3 Acid Tracks
here are some new analogue tracks ive done http://www.feedthemachine.org/getacidhoused.mp3 http://www.feedthemachine.org/bangtheacid.mp3 http://www.feedthemachine.org/anotheracidtrack.mp3 =)
(313) Free Show in London [9-26-04]
ahoy there check this out: SEPTEMBER HUMP + LEKTROLAB FREE LIVE SHOW on SUNDAY 26th SEPTEMBER LIVE: bodenstandig 2000 [Rephlex, Feed the Machine - DE] maxi german atari rave blast! GUEST DJ: bitch ass darius [Databass / NES Records - USA] ghetto tech booty bass GUEST DJ: tetine [Slum Dunk Radio, Resonance FM - BRA/UK] funk carioca / baille funk RESIDENT: lektrogirl [Rephlex, micromusic] AND: BEIGE PRESENTS VIDEO FROM ROTFLOL AND PAPER RAD - london premiere of the legendary NO FEAR dance-off! at: The Spitz, Old Spitalfields Market, 109 Commercial Street, E1 nearest tube: Liverpool Street Station time: 4pm til 10.30pm admission: FREE nb: guest acts start at 7.30pm so early arrival essential http://www.lektrolab.com if you want to know more read on! xx emma / lektrogirl BODENSTANDIG 2000 [Rephlex / Feed the Machine DE] German computer folk heros Bodenstandig 2000 step up. The Aphex Twin can be quoted as saying that they were the best live electronic act he had seen when they performed in London last in 2001 - and since then they have toured all over the world with their live Atari rave blast hits - dowsing the crowd at Recyclart in Brussels couldn't keep the crowd from rushing the stage and the folks at Camp Gay in Chicago thought the floor was going to cave in with 300 people jumping up and down - so who knows what to expect when they hit the stage in London! www.bodenstandig.com/2000 ROTFLOL [Autmn Records USA] ROTFLOL is Pittsburgh based Jacob Ciocci, part of the Paperrad Crew (along with Jessica Ciocci and Ben Jones). When Jacob isn't creating zines or flash animations for John Peels' favourite band Lightening Bolt or busy at CMU, he is making music that's as colourful as the clothes he wears. Tonight members from the BEIGE crew present Jacob's, lo-fi, melodic, junked out, video gamey, crazy dancetime electro video tracks. Positive, fun, and uplifting casio freakouts. This music is like all of this 'neo-electro/synth pop' stuff, except better and without the cold, robotic, black turtleneck attitude. Jacob was to perform live for us tonight but unfortunately he couldn't make it. The video show is an experience in itself and was first performed in the UK by the BEIGE crew at the Liverpool Bienial last week to an audience that was totally blown away. BITCH ASS DARIUS [NES Records, Databass] Hailing from the current hip-hop hot spot of St. Louis [Nelly, Chingy, J-Kwon, etc...], Bitch Ass Darius is the most recent signing to DJ Godfather's DataBass label. Darius, affectionately known to friends as Bitch Ass, made his name with releases on the now-defunct N.E.S [Nigga Entertainment Systems] label that popularised the ghetto bass sound throughout the St. Louis metropolitan area. DJ Assault, in town to check Darius' club night, took a few of his of 12's back to Detroit and they regularly found their way into sets and mix CD's by Assault and DJ Godfather. The rest is history, as Bitch Ass Darius' first DataBass EP showcases the best of his extremely hard to find N.E.S. back catalogue and more DataBass releases are on the way. Interesting to note - Bitch Ass Darius is so tight with Detroit legend Ron Murphy that Bitch Ass was to donate his kidney. [Ron Murphy is the of NSC who cut every single Jeff Mills, DJ Godfather / DJ Assault and Underground Resistance [to name but a few] record.] TETINE [Slum Dunk Radio, Resonance FM] Tetine means nipple and they are definitely our favourite Brazilians DJs who play dirty electro-disco-punk-booty-bass tunes from Rio de Janeiro extensively played in the Bailes. You can call it funk carioca or Rio funk. Tetine are releasing the first ever European compilation on Mr Bongo Records later this year featuring Brazilian hip hop beats with the filthiest raps. www.tetine.net LEKTROGIRL [micromusic, Rephlex, Lektrolab] Lektrolab resident Lektrogirl cleaning off her dusty fingers from Europes grottiest second hand vinyl shop to play obscure italo-electro gems, electro pop and homemade chipstyle tunes in an erratic and schizophrenic mix.
Re: Fwd: (313) looking for acid (house)[when I hear ACEEEEEEEED!!! all I can say is ACEEEEEEEED!!!]
hmmm the mix seems to be only 11megs, its been corrected Jared Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/16/04 6:59 PM is a good one - http://www.discogs.com/release/239754 is a new one - http://www.feedthemachine.org/getacidhouse[d].mp3 the mix - http://www.feedthemachine.org/the_mix.mp3 LFO - Intro - Tommy Boy Scuba - Lets Go Back (Elements of Jazz Vol. 2) - Kickin Records Teste - The Wipe - Probe DJ Slip - Emerald City - Music Man Something J/ DJ Maxximus - Mercedes Bentley vs . Versace Armani - Warp Ceephax Acid Crew - Part 1 - Breakin' Records Sendex - Just Dance - Bunker ARC000 Khan - Silentmoviesilverscreen - Super 8 B.R. Posse - Dreaming of the Bassline - Rephlex Auto Kinetic/BPMF - The Synapse (Split) EP - Electric Music Foundation AFX - Analogue Bubblebath 4 - Rephlex Fuschimuschi - My Number One/Super Sexy Lady - Rephlex SI Begg - Network Southeast Vol 1 - Under 5's Masami Akita + Russell Haswell - Satanstorn Ade - Warp Bodenstandig 2000 - German Maxi Rave Hits Vol 3 - Rephlex Acid Kings - Acid Kings - Keys of Life Ace of Clubs - Classid Trax - Paperplane DJ Hyperactive - Samoan Acid Stomper - Communique Ace of Clubs - Classid Trax - Paperplane 808 State - Newbuild - Rephlex Todd Osborn Tadd Mullinix - Whitelabel - TNT #1 Calisto - Get House (Acid House for All) - Definitive Recordings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/16/04 6:01 PM Acid Kings from Finland - heard/seen their live performance, was rocking! didnt hear anything else new though, but i loved the way Bevery Hills 808303 [I-F's project] been using machines! ../z99 it was 17.09.2004 when u've been going like this:: ~ There's a thing called Acid Kings which has a good take on the more classic Chicago style of Acid House- also check the Dirty Criminals album on Giggilo too- a more modern rounded sound with contributions from Spanky- some pretty warped moments- good stuff though cheers Jason On 16 Sep 2004, at 21:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: should clarify that - more on the house side as opposed to techno (no Hardfloor please) MEK ~
Re: Fwd: (313) looking for acid (house)[when I hear ACEEEEEEEED!!! all I can say is ACEEEEEEEED!!!]
is a good one - http://www.discogs.com/release/239754 is a new one - http://www.feedthemachine.org/getacidhouse[d].mp3 the mix - http://www.feedthemachine.org/the_mix.mp3 LFO - Intro - Tommy Boy Scuba - Lets Go Back (Elements of Jazz Vol. 2) - Kickin Records Teste - The Wipe - Probe DJ Slip - Emerald City - Music Man Something J/ DJ Maxximus - Mercedes Bentley vs . Versace Armani - Warp Ceephax Acid Crew - Part 1 - Breakin' Records Sendex - Just Dance - Bunker ARC000 Khan - Silentmoviesilverscreen - Super 8 B.R. Posse - Dreaming of the Bassline - Rephlex Auto Kinetic/BPMF - The Synapse (Split) EP - Electric Music Foundation AFX - Analogue Bubblebath 4 - Rephlex Fuschimuschi - My Number One/Super Sexy Lady - Rephlex SI Begg - Network Southeast Vol 1 - Under 5's Masami Akita + Russell Haswell - Satanstorn Ade - Warp Bodenstandig 2000 - German Maxi Rave Hits Vol 3 - Rephlex Acid Kings - Acid Kings - Keys of Life Ace of Clubs - Classid Trax - Paperplane DJ Hyperactive - Samoan Acid Stomper - Communique Ace of Clubs - Classid Trax - Paperplane 808 State - Newbuild - Rephlex Todd Osborn Tadd Mullinix - Whitelabel - TNT #1 Calisto - Get House (Acid House for All) - Definitive Recordings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/16/04 6:01 PM Acid Kings from Finland - heard/seen their live performance, was rocking! didnt hear anything else new though, but i loved the way Bevery Hills 808303 [I-F's project] been using machines! ../z99 it was 17.09.2004 when u've been going like this:: ~ There's a thing called Acid Kings which has a good take on the more classic Chicago style of Acid House- also check the Dirty Criminals album on Giggilo too- a more modern rounded sound with contributions from Spanky- some pretty warped moments- good stuff though cheers Jason On 16 Sep 2004, at 21:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: should clarify that - more on the house side as opposed to techno (no Hardfloor please) MEK ~
Re: [313] jak MAY 26th???
It says the 26th on the calender, just didnt want anyone to get confused From: Bill Van Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] jak party, sunday may 25 Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 06:11:16 -0700 also: http://m-nus.com/calendar/ The technotourists are going to get tired from typing in all this afterparty biz pretty soonit's starting to get fast furious! bvl -- http://www.chromedecay.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[313] LIVE/DJ SET!!!
http://sonicbox.nefarious.net/rams/dluv/2002/03/05a.ram This is a set I did recently. The live stuff are tracks that will appear on my upcoming full length. I would appreciate any feedback on them or the mix in general. Thanks in Advance Jared Wilson FTM Records Detroit, MI--now its 313 related _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides
groove box would be MC303 not tb From: Holly MacDonald-Korth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pond, Quest' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:16:32 -0700 was it green velvet that put out portamento tracks? i can't remember... and i'm away from my records. -Original Message- From: Pond, Quest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:41 AM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides I think he is referring to Portamento or Glide which means when you play 2 notes or chords after each other. Instead of hearing two distinct sounds the pitch 'glides' (either up or down) from the original pitch to the new one at a rate specified by the amount of portamento set. A similar sound can be made by using the pitch bend wheel. Most of the Roland groove boxes (tb303 and 202 etc) have a slide function which creates this effect also, and most analog and virtual analog keyboards have portamento. Check paperclip people - oscillator for classic portamento slide. Quest -Original Message- From: james boylan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 March, 2002 20:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] the kings of pitch slides Forgive my ignorance, but what is a pitch slide? From: tom churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] the kings of pitch slides Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:18:18 + in the neverending story of top fives.. 1. Eddie Fowlkes 2. Carl Craig 3. Lee Norris 4. .. hmmm, any tips? nort route... :) T - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WORLDCOM. THE BEST COMMUNICATION SERVICES IN THE WORLD. -- Based on World Communications Association 2001 Award For more information, visit www.worldcom.com/asiapacfic - This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
Teach all kids to make music:] From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: glyph1001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] about the members Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:17:22 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, glyph1001 wrote: OH OH OH, One more goal I'd like to achieve, along with my partner in life is to apply for a grant that can enable us to get iMacs and fruity loops, cubase, reason, rebirth etc into a Detroit school and teach inner city kids how to make music. I think the future of Techno lies there. =) one of my friends started thinkdetroita nonprofit that teaches detroit kids how to use computers and also involves them in sports programs. if he can do something like this...i don't see why you can't. this is EMINENTLY DOABLE. lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
Jared Wilson FTM Records Detroit, MI LOUD AS FUCK!!! Make music, listen to music, talk about music. John Cage mixes@ http://www.frequencydetroit.com/Artist/jared%20wilson.htm non up to date web site@ http://www.feedthemachine.org From: Berislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] about the members Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:05:24 +0100 Name: berislav oremus Age:25 DJ: mostly at home, but i play at local club Produce: something in 94`, trancy ,that was in back there and i was very young Work: web designer, curently working on local kabel TV colege.: no 313:from 97 music: techno, jazz,ambient (something that can keep me going on) born in bjelovar, croatia, living here, working here, i have some freinds here, never visited US... spend some time in shelter when war was here, but never on frontline(i was kind back then) and most of all im gethering knowlege from 313 about music every day, i can say i know much, but here its always something new... top 5: phylyps trax ii climax xenia first floor(entire) orbvs terrarvm(entire) that`s all ,not much - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Record shops in L.A. San Francisco
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[313] 01.04.02
MOTOR Jason Renaud Jeremy Christian Myself LOUD AS FUCK!!! Jared Wilson FTM Records Detroit, MI _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Indianapolis Question
Could someone please tell me the names of some good record stores in the area? Thanks in Advance, please respond privatly. http://www.frequencydetroit.com/Artist/jared%20wilson.htm _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Aug 18? Detroit?
*Ahem*, Jared Wilson is also playing that night at motor:] Also Squarepusher Plaid @ St. Andrews http://www.frequencydetroit.com/Artist/jared%20wilson.htm From: dj revolver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Aug 18? Detroit? Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 11:51:56 -0400 Is anything happening in Detroit Aug 18? Selway, Stewart Walker at Motor I know about and may attend. Looking to maybe meet up with some 313ers (finally some free time). steve _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: RE: [313] 2030????
What attitude does it portray? brbrbrhttp://www.frequencydetroit.com/Artist/jared%20wilson.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: RE: RE: [313] 2030 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 14:23:08 -0400 Amen Brother! My point (in a round about way) Exactly!!! Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's no need to openly criticize it, if there's no reason to openly criticize it, then there's no reason to be openly positive about it either. my negative opinion is just as valid as any other. My beef isn't with what's going on there (i support it), my beef is the attitude it portrays. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [313] richie's gear
What is a live set?;] From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] richie's gear Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:48:30 - as i suspected when i first heard richie use that 'i called u' bit at platinum, when he used it at jak this weekend, he played from a sampler, or perhaps a cd player - couldn't really tell. same thing with that 'i won't hurt you' vocoder voice. Is richie ever going to actually perform a live set? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] People from Good Homes/Neptune
Yes, but they are not the only voice. From: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] People from Good Homes/Neptune Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 08:56:54 - I'd just like to agree with Dianna here and say that most of the artists in this show represent the Detroit electronic music scene in some way (from either production, producing, dj'ing or promotion). Be there or be []. :) From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: enlighten 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] People from Good Homes/Neptune Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:28:10 -0700 (PDT) In efforts to concentrate on something positive: http://www.detroitcontemporary.com/homes.html anyone know Neptune's hours on Sunday? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Global Underground series - HP-DJ mixing
There are no rules. The only thing I find regressive, is when you use a technology such as pro-tools or final scratch to emulate another technology. To make mixes done on pro-tools sound like they where done on turntables is limiting the ways we experience and perceive sound and music. We should be using these technologies to push the framework of music and to find new ways in which to experience it. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: Mad Wax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Global Underground series - HP-DJ mixing Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:47:42 -0600 however, if a DJ has proved that he/she can carry a live mix (such as hawtin, sasha, digweed, etc), I dont see a problem with a mix being touched up with pro-tools, especially as these CDs are mass produced and the artist in question I'm sure wants a perfect mix for the consumers purchasing it. Thats a big difference then say, a DJ releasing a demo tape/cd done in pro tools, getting booked and showing up without the skills to manage the turntables. mad wax | the vocode project | http://www.vocode.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [313] Global Underground series - HP-DJ mixing Y'know, I have a real problem with mix CD's like that. I though the whole idea of a mix cd was to show some skills on the decks, not how much you can pay someone to blend tracks with ProTools. It was a huge letdown when I heard that Richie's DE909 mix cd was done like this, like the guy can't mix it live or something (he can). Someone might as well do an HP-DJ mix cd series. No one will know the difference. tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/09/2001 10:20:13 AM To: Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Gwendal Cobert' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Global Underground series whoaa...really? i nearly bought the darren emmerson one...i havn't heard it but he usually plays a good set..so u saying he didn't mix that himself? - Original Message - From: Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gwendal Cobert' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: RE: [313] Global Underground series The majority of the series is mixed via ProTools, with the DJ on the cover only selecting the tracks. This can be verified by poking around on their web site a little bit. The supposed exception to this being Tenaglia, and possibly John Digweed. But if that doesn't bother you tremendously, I think that all the Tenaglia and the Steve Lawler CDs are pretty good. -Original Message- From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:33 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Global Underground series Danny Tenaglia's Global Underground Athens 2XCD :so dark, moody and perfect... BTW - I have always been intrigued by these series, they usually feature DJs I do not know or like, any other recommandations ? Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Yet Another DEMF Afterparty
5.26.01 PULSE Acidpimp-D Records www.paxahau.com Jared Wilson-FTM Records www.frequencydetroit.com Derek Fox Apollo 18+ 2 blocks from Heart Plaza 313.359.0864 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: Yet Another DEMF Afterparty Correction
Soryy for the miss information, but of course right when I post it I get informed that something has changed. PULSE will not be held two blocks from HART plaza, but 1.5 miles away to garuntee it lasts all night. Acidpimp Jared Wilson Derek Fox Apollo 313.359.0864 18+ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] gas--kompression
Gas is Wolfgang Voigt (Mike Ink), Reihnhard's brother, and its on Mille Plateaux(spelling???). Awsome stuff. If you live in the 313 area goto Neptune in Royal Oak they carry all Gas and related material. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: Andy Battle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] gas--kompression Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:26:01 -0400 I came across these tracks while searching for reinhard voigt stuff on napster. Somebody had a whole single by Gas (which is him, right?). The tracks go like this: A1: Kompression B1: Dekompression B2: Relaxation Does anybody know what release this is or what label? I can't seem to find it in any of the Voigt discographies I've looked at (like on that circonium website or on the force inc/mille plateaux site). The first track is *awesome* and the other ones are good too. I'd love to know more about this releasewell, what I would really love would be to own it, but I guess that's probably a longshot becuase it seems fairly obscure. Thanks to anyone who can help me out on this one. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Re: [313] numerous threads at once (swedes, t-1000, top 10, st germain)
Jelly Tracks Mr. Sliff 4-30-01 From: paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] numerous threads at once (swedes, t-1000, top 10, st germain) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:09:23 +0100 somtime next month, i'll check today and come back to you. paul - Original Message - From: Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [313] numerous threads at once (swedes, t-1000, top 10, st germain) paul wrote: and check out beyer's forthcoming house double pack on jerichoshould surprise a few on this list. Do you have any more details on when it's supposed to be out and what it's called? If it's anything like his Conceiled 1-4 EP on Svek, I'll almost buy it on sight. Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Re: [313] tech-no at DEMF?
Not to add to the rumor, but I have heard similar stories. Either way it does not matter, the line up is set, they will not be there. I only wish to add this point. I hope that Carl Craig will not be the only person to select talent each year. Don't take this the wrong way he has done a wonderful job and given us a yearly event that finally recognizes the music and where it was born...But if he continues to select the talent we will only experience what he feels is worthy. Any thoughts? (This is not a criticism of Carl) Jared Wilson FTM Records From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] tech-no at DEMF? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:49:26 -0500 I guess, that Carl Craig didn't know who Marco Carola was??? The US booking contact for Marco told me that they offered Carola and some other well know swedish-type techno artists and Carl Craig was not familiar. Cheers! Dennis From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Bitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] tech-no at DEMF? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:51:08 -0400 That info is actually true. It seems they were willing to let the person in question sponsor a stage, but would not let him have control over who would be appearing on the stage. Circles within circles. Peace, Alex Ultradyne |+--- || David| || Bitterman| || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || e.net | || | || 04/19/01 | || 01:29 PM | || | |+--- -| | | | To: 313@hyperreal.org | | cc: | | Subject: [313] tech-no at DEMF? | -| Just to throw this out there, did anyone else know that for no more than the price of air fare the DEMF was offered Joel Mull, Cari Lekebausch, Mistress Barbara, Christian Smith, Marco Corola, and a handful of others, and they said they had absolutely no interest? I could be wrong about this next part, but I believe there was some offer of sponsoring a stage as part of the package as well. So much for total diversity as a bunch of seriously pro level techno gets dissed! - Just spreadin info. Don't hate me! (or maybe, you can hate me now!) :P D - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Re: [313] italian techno
Hmmm, maybe not the second Southsoul release, but definitly his Outdated ep on Conform. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] italian techno Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:47:09 -0500 (EST) Yes, Art and Southsoul are Gaetano's. Releases on a bunch of others as well. The 2 Southsoul releases so far are highly recommended. --Original Message-- From: janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: nancy mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED], derek plaslaiko [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Sent: March 1, 2001 6:00:53 PM GMT Subject: Re: [313] italian techno I don't think so. Try these ones: http://www.zenitmedien.com http://www.elpmedien.com I think he's running the ART label. janos At 08:53 AM 3/1/2001 -0800, you wrote: Gaetano Parisio anyone know if he has a website??? thanks ~__~ hey D, how are you? later nancy = ***saRu maNe***tm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] streaming mixes
www.paxahau.com Jared Wilson FTM Records From: Greg Malcolm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] streaming mixes Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:19:54 -0500 any good sites out there that offer streaming mixes, besides freq detroit? Greg Malcolm Digital Audio Engineer/Multimedia http://www.ontimetraining.com 330.422.2028x163 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] records recommendations
Another Detroit related record you will want to pick up is Rexxx Mantis EP D Records Jared Wilson FTM RECORDS From: Tom Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tom Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] records recommendations Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:59:53 - Just wanted to mention some new D-related stuff that has come my way recently: Tim Baker: The Believer EP (Ovum) - two very mixable, very accessible, rolling grooves from Tim. Can't fail to see action. Trevor Rockcliffe feat. Blake Baxter: Visions Of You remixes (In-Tec) - loads of new mixes from Rockcliffe, Carl Cox, Samuel L Sessions, Roberto Mello (house), Smith Selway. I have to say I wasn't that enamoured of most of them, but Cox's is the best mix I've ever heard from him. DJ T-1000: Hyper-Stylized Life (Pure Sonik) - Welcome back, Mr Oldham. Wicked EP, this, with 3 really impressive energetic and non-cliched loop cuts and one cool, original electroic funk cut. Definitely recommended. Other good stuff: WeltZwei: Intercity (Sender) - good funky minimalism from Germany. Len Faki; Everywhere Is Nowhere EP (Goodlife) - more very playable trax from Goodlife, though not as outstanding as their previous release - remixes of The Hacker's 'Fadin Away' Percy X: Maintain (Soma) - humming techno funk with a Steve Bicknell remix in Purpose Maker mode Midfield General: Coatnoise (Skint) - a bit like ZombieNation, actually, but defintely not what you'd expect from Skint. Good Dave Clarke remix, too. Cheers, Tom MF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?
Art in all forms is about expression. I would have to disagree. That is a very modernistic view of art. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM? Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:01:17 +1100 Very nicely stated. Art in all forms is about expression. Moods emotions that an artform creates are different in each individual. Regardless of what the means are that are used to reach the musical end. what is created is what matters. (plagerisism aside) technological advancement is not the problem. The problem starts when quality and authentisity are compromised for laziness and lack of skill.IMO - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] Kompakt Education Listen to KOMPAKT 1 to 28 PROFAN @ nuloop.com
Also Traum releases are very good, maybe to heady for what you are looking for but still worth the listen. On KOMPAKT you cant beat Robson Ponte by Reinhard Voigt I believe it is #15. KOMPAKT's web add. is www.KOMPAKT-NET.DE There you can find the discography of the labels they dist. and descriptions of each. Also listen to the Freiland series by Wolfgang Voigt and the max-earnst series by Thomas Brinkmann. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: Adrien ROUSSEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Kompakt Education Listen to KOMPAKT 1 to 28 PROFAN @ nuloop.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:05:20 +0100 listen to kompakt 1 to 28 @ http://www.nuloop.com/LabelE.asp?label=318 listen to profan http://www.nuloop.com/LabelE.asp?label=457 regards Adrien ROUSSEL www.nuloop.com -Message d'origine- De : Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : vendredi 19 janvier 2001 08:21 À : 313 Objet : [313] Kompakt Education Please I picked up the Kompakt - Total 2 compilation last weekend and I'm love with the M. Mayer track Amanda. The only other Kompakt record I've been inspired to buy so far was the first M. Mayer 12. I see there's a new one, KOM 25. Anyone heard this? How does it compare to the rest of his output? I like the overtly 80's style of Amanda, and the overboard triumphant synths on the first one, but a lot of the other Kompakt stuff I've heard doesn't really grab me as much as say, Perlon, Basic Channel, etc. It almost feels like it's stuck in a grey area between heady dancefloor stuff and super-quirky IDM, never really satisfying my cravings for either. Maybe it just doesn't go over as well in headphones at the record store? So... if you can point me to more Michael Mayer stuff that's worth picking up, or releases on Kompakt that are sure to impress, I'd be much obliged. On that tip, anything that's on this German retro-80s meets German house tip sounds good to me. The Popacid mix of Fackeln Im Sturm by Wolfgang Voigt is another example of this style. I remember somone about a year ago said this style was featured at some club in Germany. The more info the better. Tristan -- Eleven mixes, one album, various tracks, pics and info here: http://phonopsia.tripod.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] FrogboyMCI on AOL IM Deserve's Got Nothing to Do With it. -Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Mike Ink, RRR, and early 80s Neue Deutsche Welle?
The sets by Brinkmann and Triple R are archived @ www.paxahau.com Also, yes that is the same Mike Ink whos real name is actually Wolfgang Voigt. Try the Circonium web page for background info and a discography for him. As for the RRR reference I am not sure as the RRR that played with Brinkmann is Riley Reihnard who runs TRAUM records out of Cologne and works at Wolfgang Voigts KOMPAKT store. So I am not sure if they are the same. Jared Wilson FTM REcords From: David Knapik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Mike Ink, RRR, and early 80s Neue Deutsche Welle? Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:07:47 -0800 Does anyone here know a lot about the early 80s German New Wave (Neue Deutsche Welle) scene? I have a CD reissue of the first two Der Plan LPs and it credits the production on one of them (c. 1982) to Mike Ink. Is this the same as the Kompakt-Profan-Burger/Ink-Studio1 artist? It would make sense, because Robert Gorl (ex-Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft, also of that scene) keeps making good music even 20 years later, but still it's damn impressive to musically innovate in two separate time periods! Also, I'm come across the name Moritz RRR Reichelt as one of the founders of Der Plan and Ata Tak Records -- is this the same person that recently played on the same bill as Thomas Brinkmann over the summer in Chicago? I dug his set better than Brinkmann's -- that's crazy if it's the same guy. Perhaps they are all just referencing NDW artists as an homage to the past? Any clarification on this matter would be much appreciated. Lastly, any one in the Chicago area that has early Mute singles, let me know. In lieu of Mute still not reissuing their early singles on CD, I'd like to make a CD-R of Mute 1-10. I have everything except the Non/Smegma single and the Robert Rental single. I would just need to digitize the two singles. thanks. cheers, Dave David Knapik - Web Developer Northwestern University School of Law - MC B71 (312) 503-2771 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Profan 4 Reinhardt Voigt
Check out http://home.snafu.de/circonium/index2.html for all your german techno questions. Well it might not answer them all, but there is good info there on Mr. Wolfgang Voigt. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Profan 4 Reinhardt Voigt Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:38:58 -0800 Profan is one of the all time great german minimal labels run by Wolfgang and Reinhart Voigt to of the most prolific German producers today. Wolfgang has gone by so many names its not funny (think Atom Heart alias' times 2). Some of the more common ones are Mike Ink, M:I:5, Gas, Grungerman, Sweet Reinhard, Wasserman, and Studio 1. He's is the originator of the Studio 1 label (of which Brinkmann first did his variations on), the Kreisel label, a slew of smaller german grunge acid labels like Djungle, Auftrieb and Freidland, and has released on big labels like Force Inc. and Warp. Please check out Burger/Ink Las Vegas on Matador, this is the all time greateset minimal album released! FYI Profan 2 is by Sweet Reinhard and is called Kultur. Alot of profan stuff now is ambient or (ie Reinhards Premiere World) some of the sweeter Profan releases were by M:I:5, Wasserman, Studio 1, Pentax and Reval (watch out or Pentax's Das Album though its just a bunch of blips and bleeps) Hope that helps todd - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: [313] Profan 4 Reinhardt Voigt Was listening to Profan 4 Reinhardt Voigt. I've also heard Profan 2 by Brinkmann. What other stuff is on the label? Any comments on Profan 4 and Reinhardt Voigt or the label mediadrome - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Profan 4 Reinhardt Voigt
Oh yeah also Wolgang Voigt runs KOMPAKT records, they are located at www.KOMPAKT-NET.DE Jared Wilson FTM Records From: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Profan 4 Reinhardt Voigt Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:38:58 -0800 Profan is one of the all time great german minimal labels run by Wolfgang and Reinhart Voigt to of the most prolific German producers today. Wolfgang has gone by so many names its not funny (think Atom Heart alias' times 2). Some of the more common ones are Mike Ink, M:I:5, Gas, Grungerman, Sweet Reinhard, Wasserman, and Studio 1. He's is the originator of the Studio 1 label (of which Brinkmann first did his variations on), the Kreisel label, a slew of smaller german grunge acid labels like Djungle, Auftrieb and Freidland, and has released on big labels like Force Inc. and Warp. Please check out Burger/Ink Las Vegas on Matador, this is the all time greateset minimal album released! FYI Profan 2 is by Sweet Reinhard and is called Kultur. Alot of profan stuff now is ambient or (ie Reinhards Premiere World) some of the sweeter Profan releases were by M:I:5, Wasserman, Studio 1, Pentax and Reval (watch out or Pentax's Das Album though its just a bunch of blips and bleeps) Hope that helps todd - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: [313] Profan 4 Reinhardt Voigt Was listening to Profan 4 Reinhardt Voigt. I've also heard Profan 2 by Brinkmann. What other stuff is on the label? Any comments on Profan 4 and Reinhardt Voigt or the label mediadrome - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Re: [Re: [313] Re: [Re: [313] the D label]]
Plain and simple, D is some of the best and most advant techno being released right now. But Wv909, you can keep it real with your stagnant soulful techno, that is some I am not interested in. Jared Wilson Feed The Machine Records Detroit, MI From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: [Re: [313] Re: [Re: [313] the D label]] Date: 20 Oct 00 09:47:45 EDT Can we also remember that when someone doesn't agree with us , it in itself does not present an oppertunity to say hey youre full of sh*t But conversely it offers up an oppertunity to explore these differences via this electronic medium and hopefully learn something about ourselves and humanity and this thing called Techno. 1Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's just remember that people can have different views than each other, but slandering other listmembers is against the rules. Please, can we not get offended by each other's comments? Aren't we all, afterall, on the same side? We all have a love for the same music, even if we dissagree on what the best releases this year have been. Thanks gentlemen! D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: [Re: [313] the D label] Date: 19 Oct 00 16:39:45 EDT #1 bozo... Your very comments reveal just how much of that 'b.s.' you carry with you... Let me say your 'b.s.' is very well informed Take for instance your orignal Classic quote .. that still makes me laugh D is releaseing some the best techno being released right now _this is too rich ..ha! I geuss you dont get that ' informed'information regarding techno being released/produced within Detroit ..If you did the difference would be clear ! let geuss youre another one of these smart ass white kids from some far away suburban place , trying to be the poster child for techno Realize you well informed/self proclaimed guru : i have been dissin your comments for the last week ..i.e. in my response I removed all text except your own comment duh! lol hysterical!! what you couldn't figure this out soo you had to say something nasty? I dont know who U r mr. For The Money records I dont care anyways But here's some real imformed truth for ya ass : hats off to the guys at/with D records for trying to be creative but their debut and following records pale in comparison to numrious releases out this year in fact ... soo take your head out yo ass and climb down off your throne and listen to some real sh*t , get some humility and inner peace then you'll be ready to speak of who's informed and who aint. [out] JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah I remember you, Your the one that likes to talk alot of uninformed b.s. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] the D label Date: 17 Oct 00 16:52:12 EDT D is releasing some of the best Techno being made right now. What are You talking about? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: 313 ...opinions was [313] D label
Wv909 Keep it real I see that what you measure with is not the same as I. What you hold as something to gauge music by are things that I do not even consider (i.e. soul). I like to think that music is beyond these types of ideologies and hierarchies. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: 313 ...opinions was [313] D label Date: 20 Oct 00 12:43:03 EDT This is your opinion ..plain and simple, in regards to 'advant'? I'll guess this equates avant..and to that I'll quote a stagnant but soulful guy Revolutionary art or music,is not determined by it's avant garde content;nor it's use of technical trickery, rather, by how much it revolutionises our thinking and imagination; thusly overturning our PRECONCEPTIONS ; BIAS and PREDJUDICE...inspiring us to CHANGE ourselves and the world... Carl Craig 1997 (admit. my paraphrase of his statement) Let me also reiterate ; The more people being creative with music ..all the better! To say that they are the 'best' is pure opinion esp. at this stage of their development..come on! people have been and still are making /producing/spining Techno long before this new label started . and it's my opinion(following your lead) That what makes the best Techno is not just the flash in the pan stuff coversely it's the music that stands the test of time and use... With numerious releases from the submerge camp this year,and those connected to s.i.d. crew as well , I find your opinion(s) to be just that ... P.s. maybe getting interested in your soul would keep it from getting stagnant. JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plain and simple, D is some of the best and most advant techno being released right now. But Wv909, you can keep it real with your stagnant soulful techno, that is some I am not interested in. Jared Wilson Feed The Machine Records Detroit, MI From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: [Re: [313] Re: [Re: [313] the D label]] Date: 20 Oct 00 09:47:45 EDT Can we also remember that when someone doesn't agree with us , it in itself does not present an oppertunity to say hey youre full of sh*t But conversely it offers up an oppertunity to explore these differences via this electronic medium and hopefully learn something about ourselves and humanity and this thing called Techno. 1Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's just remember that people can have different views than each other, but slandering other listmembers is against the rules. Please, can we not get offended by each other's comments? Aren't we all, afterall, on the same side? We all have a love for the same music, even if we dissagree on what the best releases this year have been. Thanks gentlemen! D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: [Re: [313] the D label] Date: 19 Oct 00 16:39:45 EDT #1 bozo... Your very comments reveal just how much of that 'b.s.' you carry with you... Let me say your 'b.s.' is very well informed Take for instance your orignal Classic quote .. that still makes me laugh D is releaseing some the best techno being released right now _this is too rich ..ha! I geuss you dont get that ' informed'information regarding techno being released/produced within Detroit ..If you did the difference would be clear ! let geuss youre another one of these smart ass white kids from some far away suburban place , trying to be the poster child for techno Realize you well informed/self proclaimed guru : i have been dissin your comments for the last week ..i.e. in my response I removed all text except your own comment duh! lol hysterical!! what you couldn't figure this out soo you had to say something nasty? I dont know who U r mr. For The Money records I dont care anyways But here's some real imformed truth for ya ass : hats off to the guys at/with D records for trying to be creative but their debut and following records pale in comparison to numrious releases out this year in fact ... soo take your head out yo ass and climb down off your throne and listen to some real sh*t , get some humility and inner peace then you'll be ready to speak of who's informed and who aint. [out] JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah I remember you, Your the one that likes to talk alot of uninformed b.s. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] the D label Date: 17 Oct 00 16:52:12 EDT D is releasing some of the best Techno being made right now. What are You talking about? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [313] the D label
Oh yeah I remember you, Your the one that likes to talk alot of uninformed b.s. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] the D label Date: 17 Oct 00 16:52:12 EDT D is releasing some of the best Techno being made right now. What are You talking about? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] the D label
D is releasing some of the best Techno being made right now. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: * ani * [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] the D label Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:09:37 -0400 we carry this label, let me know if you want to know the titles we have (i'm kinda too busy to pull and list them all right now). ani Sakari Karipuro wrote: howdy, i've got few 12s by this mystery label D - music is really innovative and funky detroit techno, but i've never heard of the artists before and there seems to be connection to hawtin co, since D website is http://d.m-nus.com/. website itself is annoingly slow flash stuff and offers very little information about the label. anybody knows anything about this label? some of the tracks really sound like hawtin just jammin live... / sakke -- work http://www.teraflops.com/ personal http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Re: [Re: [313] the D label]
What is the hahalol all about? Jared Wilson FTM Records From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: [Re: [313] the D label] Date: 17 Oct 00 14:42:51 EDT JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D is releasing some of the best Techno being made right now. haha.lol Jared Wilson FTM Records From: * ani * [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] the D label Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:09:37 -0400 we carry this label, let me know if you want to know the titles we have (i'm kinda too busy to pull and list them all right now). ani Sakari Karipuro wrote: howdy, i've got few 12s by this mystery label D - music is really innovative and funky detroit techno, but i've never heard of the artists before and there seems to be connection to hawtin co, since D website is http://d.m-nus.com/. website itself is annoingly slow flash stuff and offers very little information about the label. anybody knows anything about this label? some of the tracks really sound like hawtin just jammin live... / sakke -- work http://www.teraflops.com/ personal http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Re: [Re: [313] the D label]]
No really, what are you talking about? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: [Re: [313] the D label]] Date: 17 Oct 00 16:31:07 EDT D is releasing some of the best Techno being made right now. -Rich!! 2 funny ..thanks again...lol Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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Re: [313] Re: Ax-020
Judging by the records you mentioned, it looks like you prefer the -less- intricate and more banging/harder records. No, I do not prefer one over the other. I am a big fan of the intricate structured techno, such as the KOMPAKT releases, and other dry german techno. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Ax-020
Don't you people get tired of hearing all that echo and reverb? Never. This was in reference to the Deepchord releases I presume. Yes it is very old ingredients, but when the finished product is simply good dubbed out techno, who cares what its context is. Isolee uses these same ingredients and it works. I know the funky organic tech-house sound is very trendy right now, people use the word soulful like its going out of style but who do you think your kidding? I'm sure Kevin, Juan, and Derrick could have easily looped disco classics on some primitave one shot sampler if they really wanted to, Yes I agree that tech-house has become very trite, but they should not be compared to early detroit techno. Kevin, Juan, and Derrick are good producers and important for techno, but to try to discredit another music by saying that they could have easily made, is useless. Yes, The innovators' music is good and important, but they are producers just like everyone else and are not gods. What I mean by that is just because they touch something does not mean it turns to gold. And yes I am sick of the word soulful. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] techno books/postmodernism (was UR in Europe)
I would disagree with this post. Techno Rebels tries to write a history of techno. I would agree that at points Kodwo does drift into a poetic phase, but More Brilliant... achieve what no other book on electronic music has done, to try and translate the perception of music into words. it is an extremely theoretical read. In the end I guess we will have to agree to disagree, I am glad that someone other than myself has read both books and can give a coherently process the information and not just regurgitate it. I would suggest that if you are interested in learning some history of techno check out Techno Rebels, but if you are more interested in theory than check out More Brilliant than the Sun. P.s. the tactics in the other book you mentioned about postmodernism are just modernist arguments against postmodernism. I would rather talk in person about this than in lengthy threads:] Thank you for the info Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313]Detroit Bb
I thought I was done with these types of people in high school. Oh well some just never grow up. If you define what the other kids have as soul then I definitly do not want it. And I do not know what Detroit Thang you speak of, because I look out my window and do not see it. F.T.M.=Quality Music. Jared Wilson Feed the Machine Records From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313]Detroit Bb Date: 11 Aug 00 11:03:20 EDT Geez why dont we just say the only good RB coming out right now is from the backstreet boyz and N-sync Britney Spears she just on the avant guarde tip as of late huh? Aaron...as S.Freud would say your argument represents a latent desire for fullfillment of whats hiding within... Pete please reread..for you stated their work is a result of their influences.. my point exactly...oh yeah ..your enviroment and experiences make you who you are , only if you grant them that power over your life. yes you cant reinvent the wheel but someone came up with the tire :] Jaredsick of soul...hmmm is this just jelousy over what the other kids have? Does F.T.M. stand for For The Money? I bet you wish one of the not Gods would do a couple of their tricks[sic] on your record label. Kelly...:) Hey ya'll its a Detroit thang .I dont expect you all to understand _Fin Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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Re: Ax-020
Well then you'd probably haven't heard: Theo Parrish - Parallel Dimensions LP (Sound Signature) Robert Hood - Nighttime World 2 (M-Plant) Shake - Songs For My Mother (Frictional) Da Sampla - Samplaholic (Moods Grooves) Sean Deason - Allegory Metaphor (Intuit Solar) Kevin Saunderson - Powerbass (Sonic Groove) Yes I have heard the previously mentioned records. I think for the most part they are all good average releases. Some are a little stronger than others, but what I am looking for are those warehouse stormers that just do not seem to come out of Detroit as of late. I have been impressed with all of the Deepchord releases, but I am just a sucker for that type of sound. I would not say Deepchord is really doing anything special either. I am waiting to see what the next wave of Detroit producers will be. Also, I think Detroit has had better house releases than techno. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Ax-020
Well if you're looking for warehouse stormers then logically you'd be dissapointed with these releases. The musical trend now seems to be heading toward more intricate sounds, structures that are more specialised then what was released back in the day. I'm not implying that there were no intricacies in techno music then, just that it is more prevalent today because of new technological advancements. Music evolves...and continue to evolve. (In some cases more than some people do!) I totaly agree, it is not that I do not loke the previously mentioned releases, they are just in a different context. I am a big fan of the intricate sound structures of late, but they have started to become a little to tright for my tastes. They are becoming to intricate and sophisticated. However, I would argue that some producers have begone to reintroduce the elements of a warehouse stormer with these intricate sound structures (Marco Carola and Adam Beyers' release on Zenit would be a good example). It is this type of production that I start to see influencing Detroit (via, Electric Deluxe). I feel these producers have found a great midway point between the intricate and storming sound. Another example would be Ade Fenton's Perverter release. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)
And how dare you say that Detroit is stagnant so soon after DEMF!? ;P If this was in response to my comments about Detroit being stagnent then you are preaching to the converted. I totaly agree with you, Detroit is at the cusp of another great wave of freash producers. I greatly appreciate what former producers and djs have done for Detroit, but of late have been let down by the majority of releases and djs sets I have heard from here. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records From: Mike Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gord [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:04:58 -0400 And how dare you say that Detroit is stagnant so soon after DEMF!? ;P I think the thing to remember is that there is electronic music in Detroit beyond Detroit Techno. Right now there is a lot of stuff that doesnt go doof doof doof that you do not know about yet. There are a lot of cats doing good stuff that don't have deals yet, and even more getting their game together as we speak. Detroit might not be tearing the roof off right now, but there are cats who will be banging you upside the head in another couple years. Detroit isnt going anywhere, there is still alot of time left in the game. take care, MT -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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RE: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)
I am not saying that there is no good techno coming from Detroit. However, the most avant techno I hear of late has come from elsewhere and has begun to influence Detroit (which always happens with anything). My point is not that Detroit has fallen off, but that I am excited to hear what will emerge from the next wave of Detroit producers. We are at another point in Detroit Techno life where we will witness a pacing of the torch. My discussion is not about Detroit has lost it, but about what will emerge from Detroit. I don't care about history, 'cause that's not where I wanna be!!! (The Ramones) Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'JARED WILSON' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:47:09 +0200 Oh please not another 'Detroit has lost it' discussion. We had discusions like this before. If you think there is no more interesting techno comming from Detroit (or Detroit-influenced techno) why are those people still on a mailinglist about 313-techno? just wondering... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: JARED WILSON [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 3:28 PM Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020) And how dare you say that Detroit is stagnant so soon after DEMF!? ;P If this was in response to my comments about Detroit being stagnent then you are preaching to the converted. I totaly agree with you, Detroit is at the cusp of another great wave of freash producers. I greatly appreciate what former producers and djs have done for Detroit, but of late have been let down by the majority of releases and djs sets I have heard from here. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records From: Mike Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gord [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:04:58 -0400 And how dare you say that Detroit is stagnant so soon after DEMF!? ;P I think the thing to remember is that there is electronic music in Detroit beyond Detroit Techno. Right now there is a lot of stuff that doesnt go doof doof doof that you do not know about yet. There are a lot of cats doing good stuff that don't have deals yet, and even more getting their game together as we speak. Detroit might not be tearing the roof off right now, but there are cats who will be banging you upside the head in another couple years. Detroit isnt going anywhere, there is still alot of time left in the game. take care, MT -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Re: Ax-020
I agree, out side of the new plus 8 track (Electric Deluxe) I have not been to impressed with Detroit releases. I would say that the most avant techno of late has come from the likes of Marco Carola, Gaeton Parisio, and even some Adam Beyer releases (specifically the release on Conform Lost and Found??). And even the previously mentioned music is still just a refined techno. I think Detroit has become stagnant, but do not get me wrong this is not a negative view. I think the next few years will be very exciting for Detroit music and look forward to some of the next generation producers. Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records From: stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: Ax-020 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 05:26:21 -0500 Am I completely wrong or am I the only one who dares to say... IMO Your only stating your opinion and there nothing wrong with that. Ax-020 is a completely disappointing record... More than that compared to his visionary releases in the early/mid 90's I think Mills produced no good record during the last 2 years... Any comments? Because he's been on the experimental tip lately but I see what your saying, I feel the same way about many Detroit artist nowadays. But lets look at this whole tribal techno movement that I'm not especially a big fan of, would it have even happened if it wasnt for Jeff Mills? that's basically what it is, just a bunch of Jeff Mills rehash from 3 or 4 years ago. Newer doesn't necessarily mean better but many Detroit techno or former Detroit techno artist feel they have to change for the sake of progress. When I listen to Detroit techno its mostly the classic stuff because that had a formula that worked, yes it is considered dated compared to today's dance trends but like they say newer doesn't necessarily mean better and alot of what I hear in electronica/ techno culture today is really not that new or better, its just more eclectic and refined due to technological advancements. stephen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] UR in Europe
Also check out More Brilliant than the Sun By Kodwo Eshun. I would say a much more sophisticated and postmodern view of techno, electro, jungle, etc. Has an excellent section on UR. I would recommend it over Techno Rebels. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: xx xx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] UR in Europe Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:49:58 GMT If you really like to know more about UR, drop me a line. It is also our roles,among others, to give true information, to get things straight. To educate the mass media, people, so feel free to do it. If you cannot buy Dan Sicko's book via internet, you can order it at W. Schmitt, an english bookshop located at rue de Rivoli-Paris. And definitively forget Global Tekno wrote by Jean-Yves Leloup, too much non sense, lies, you will be on the wrong way, still. Despite the fact that this guy had the chance to meet UR, he got nothing, ...Big shame...No respect... It would be very interesting to have the name of the magazine, for a right to reply. Later From: Jean-Michel Lavergne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] UR in Europe Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:47:51 -0400 Hi everyone, this is my first message to the 313 mailing list. Afriend of mine sended me an e-mail with the following observations: Underground Resistance, qui symbolise l'autre versant de la techno de Detroit Sous le nom d'Underground Resistance, Jeff Mills et Mad Mike créaient des titres de dance hardcore très radicaux, ce que personne ne faisait Et ce type de techno simple et répétitive a eu beaucoup de retentissement en Europe, a été copiée voire plagiée sous des tas de formes de type harcore ou trance, d'une qualité bien inférieure If i translate in English: Underground resistance are the other side of Detroit techno. Under U.R., Jeff Mills and Mad Mike created radicals hardcore dance titles that nobody had done. This simple and repetitive type of techno had a big impact in Europe. This style have been copyed under a lot of hardcore or trance forms, with a lot less quality. Anyone have an opinion on this? I don't know much of Detroit music history, and even less knowledge of UR in Europe. --- Envoyé par Moncourrier.com Vous aussi obtenez gratuitement votre adresse électronique sur Moncourrier.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Australia, Post modern techno
Sam, For Detroit techno distribution; www.submerge.com For you class you should check out the book More Brilliant than the Sun by Kodwo Eshun. By far the best book on techno, electro, jungle, etc. It is a great shift from the usual modernist thought that is associated with techno. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Sam Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Australia, Post modern techno Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Hi 313 people I'm from Canberra, Australia. Just over half a year ago i got interested in detroit's wonderfull techno through Juan Atkins mix cd. It has snowballed from there. Frustratingly it is not easy to find stuff in Canberra. If anybody knows of any reliable distributors that will import detroit techno overseas for a reasonable price i would love to know. Presently i am doing a project on Detroit techno for my english postmodernism class. It would be fantastic if anybody had views on postmodern issues relating to Detroit techno that they would like to share with me. Chears Sam K __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] New track for you all
It seems a little thin. When I say this it seems like there was not very much manipulation to the sounds other than effects (not that there always has to be more). I am not big on congas and the ever popular reverse, I think both of these elements have become sort of cliche in techno lately. The transitions are a little rough and jerky, they are not fluid. I think if you could do a stronger mix of it you could have a good techno filler on your hands, but not a warehouse stormer. I hope the info was helpful. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Scott Vallance [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] New track for you all Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:46:44 +0930 I've stuck a new track up on my site - its a harder detroit sort of style (think hard Claude Young I guess). I'm really wanting some feedback because its the first harder style track I've put up. Anyway heres the details: Calculations Description: 145 bpms. Hard techno, with lots of effects. This is a pretty big deviation from my normal style, but don't worry I've got some more mellow tracks nearly finished :) http://www.mp3.com/ScottVallance Thanks! ScottV. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] TR-606 VS. TR-707
I would agree with Kent, I have used both in my productions and the 606 is deffinetly more appealing in sound, sequencing, and special retro fits you can build into it. Check out the Kenton web site for mods for the 606. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sean bollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] TR-606 VS. TR-707 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:49:04 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, sean bollin wrote: Hi, I cant quite afford a TR-909 or 808 yet so Im planning on buying a TR-606 or TR-707. which one in general sounds better (close to a tr-909)? Um, neither. The 707 sounds pretty harsh and digital -- the best sounds are the claps and the hats. The kick sounds like someone kicking a metal wastebasket. It does have the Roland Step/Tap sequencer business, and that's easy to sort out. The 707 shuffle is killer. It has individual outs AND volume sliders so you can build up and break down a pattern. It's most useful live if you've pre-programmed all your beats into different panel, since in pattern play you can trigger patterns on the fly. And you can do that Richie Hawtin trick of setting the last step temporarily to 1 for a drumroll. It can also trigger analog drum brains like the tama techstar and simmons analog drum boxes. And it has a trigger output (on the side stick) that can clock an SH101 or MC202. And if that isn't enough, it has individual outputs for each sound. The 606 is all analog, and has the most brilliant drum sequencer ever made, because you can switch between pattern and edit mode on the fly. There are extensive mods you can do to bring individual sounds out and add more control over the sound. Biggest downfall -- you've heard all those sounds a million times before, and the kick is wimpy unless you mod it for individual outputs and put in a decay time knob. To just learn how to cane a drum machine, I would go with the 606. and also, which one would make more sense to own in someone starting to build up enough equipment to write some tracks? Well they're a tool but the sounds are a bit dated and wimpy. Now if you have a nice mixer and a bunch of effects to mess them up they're great, but on their own they're not much use. For standalone coolness you can't beat the 606 -- leave your laptop at home and take this baby on the plane. opinions on other synths/drum machines up to $400 would be appreciated also, Really the best thing you can do if you have a PC is to buy fruityloops software (http://www.fruityloops.com) -- it can do loads more than any hardware box. If you must have an actual drum machine, look at the Korg Electribe line, especially that new sampling box. You can use samples to get going, and since you can get samples of just about everything on the web, getting a sampler is like getting a load of instruments for free. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom
I think the worst thing would be if everyone agreed with me. Then there would be no growth. I just want everyone to know that I am not placing judgements on anyone one or anything. I am just wanting in-depth discourse on the subjects I care most about, techno art (although I do not draw distinctions between the two. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: 19 Jul 2000 21:25:53 - Well, I must say Jared has gone right to one of the central dilemmas of philosophy. Do words have a common meaning or do they mean only what we individually say they do, like we were living in Wonderland. experimental has a scientific and technical meaning that is quite precise, but experimental also has a commonly understood meaning or range of meanings, for example in music. Fred Frith is pretty experimental in his approach, I'd say. Or Lee Perry. Or a good deal of electronic music, even electronic dance music. You can be dogmatic about this if you like, Jared, but don't expect us to go along with it just because you say so. phred Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] experimentation
I still do not think that opening up a 606 and adding all of the retro fits and what not is experimenting. And my main question is how can your sculptures or installations represent something else? Thank you for taking the time to explain your work. I look forward to your reply. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: synthetic detronik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] experimentation Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:35:44 GMT My point was simply that the term experimental has become over used and stagnent in meaning. I am pushing for a more descriptive and in-depth analysis of what Micho is doing. alright, I was hopeing I could avoid typeing a long email, however, respectfully I must explain what I do. My visual arts i.e. video installations portray a microcosm of societies strangulation by mediated tactiles. For instance, my installations typically consist of larger then life television forms perverting the icon of tv as a demi-god type alter (like the huge collisiums with monolithic statues of our heros in greek games) But now, its techno and its in a dark club with nowhere to hide, because the room has been wired with cameras that bring the public into the same arena as the performer. The tactiles of a mediated installation reaches out captures the performance, washes to the crowd picking out people and electronically transferring them to the monolithic archs with the performers, because thats what its all about, the music, the soul, and the reaction of the crowd. the experiment:: destroy the common boundry between performer and crowd, individualize the people from the masses and project them onto a mass communicative device. I simply overly exagerate what society does. My audio experimentations are very experimentive in my opinion. You can decide for yourself. I take drum machines and toys amongst other instruments and open them up. The experiment is to disect them, find the sound creating areas and give them the ability to be organic and have the option of having interaction by the human environment. i.e. take the tr-606, my most extensive experiment. I gave it the ability to have control by human interaction to alter the sounds which were not controllable before. The sounds are then taken to another level where say the hihats can fluctuate in pitch by a cv in that controls the variance of the filter with every pulse transmitted to that. The toys are given an alternate brain which makes them do different things then what they were intended. The sound is then transmitted to the audience by means of live interaction with balanceing multiple drum machines with toys and various sounds. I make the beats live and manipulate the sounds live. the experiment:: sure its been done, but not to the degree im taking it. now a days alot of people presequence, preprogram, presample, pre this and pre that. I aint doin it. its all live baby, just manipluations of cycleing patterns and makeing that repetition sound as organic as possible with as little digital as possible with a degree of interaction previously unobtainable. call it modern electro-jazz or whatever. so heres the scoop, my grand daddy was a scientist here in detroit many moons ago. he invented many forms of metallic paint and what later became known as napalm. sure paint had been around for years, he took it a step further and invented metallic paint for automobiles, and today, they still use it, he still gets paid for the patents. napalm was utilized in war, that was simply a defunct paint mixture he came up with that was highly combustionable. The Moral:: one must learn the rules to break the rules and take it a step further.. and reinventing is what it might be, but its another step in our evolution. experimental is experimentation, be it some simple thing to some complex thing, to each their own, as long as its experimentation to the one experimenting, then its experimental. much respect, :micho aka: non-compliant ::create : recreate : alter::: ::.:::.:.:::..:..:::.::.:::.:.::..::.:.:..: visuals ~ experimental audio ~ toy - instrument expansion ...:::.:.:::.:.:::.:.:..:...:.:...:::.:.:...:.::.:.::.. ::synthetic - detroit ::detronik contact info:: t: 313.850.7345 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.mp3.com/detronik Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom
Micho, I realy do not believe what you are doing or have done would be concidered experimental. In alot of ways you are just re-inventing the wheel. You stated, I like to portray a microcosm of our mass communicated society in a inclosed environment. My question to you is, how can you portray anything? This post is not a diss, I am only trying to begin a discusion and inform myself as well as anyone reading this. Look forward to yours or anyones response. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: synthetic detronik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:54:12 GMT and for other detroit visual artists in close relation to techno, 313's very own meighen micho. . . art?: I was trying to hide behind my tv's. I think anyone that lives here in detroit has probably seen my work at one time or another. Most dont know me though. I do the massive television/camera installations you encounter at clubs or galleries. I like to portray a microcosm of our mass communicated society in a inclosed environment. as for experimental: I do experimental sound by balanceing 4-5 drum machines that I have modified in some form with modified toys. as for ron zakrin: Hes like a brother to me. love the guy. he has a special place in my heart. he was one of the people responsible for criticals success. :micho ::create : recreate : alter::: ::.:::.:.:::..:..:::.::.:::.:.::..::.:.:..: visuals ~ experimental audio ~ toy - instrument expansion ...:::.:.:::.:.:::.:.:..:...:.:...:::.:.:...:.::.:.::.. ::synthetic - detroit ::detronik contact info:: t: 313.850.7345 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.mp3.com/detronik Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom
I would disagree. Experimentation does not exist. You state, so if I sit down to make a track, if I do not start out with a concrete idea but instead figure it out as i go, then this is experimental no matter how straight ahead the resulting track is. There is no possible way to start something without having any idea of it before hand. Simply being conscious of your actions is enough information to disqualify your argument. To truly experiment, in techno for example, you would have to step outside of the structure or language of techno; meaning create something new in techno. It is not possible to do this because of the limitations of language or structure of techno (or what ever you are referring to). You can only assemble never experiment. Looking forward to any comments. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:23:27 +0100 (BST) Micho, I realy do not believe what you are doing or have done would be concidered experimental. If it involves experimentation it is experimental - so if I sit down to make a track, if I do not start out with a concrete idea but instead figure it out as i go, then this is experimental no matter how straight ahead the resulting track is. neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom
Yes I do have high standards. Why would anyone want to have low ones. I never said that Micho does not make good music. I was inquiring to his use of the word experiment to describe what he does. I disagreed with the description and ask about it. How is that being hash or stuck-up. I am just being honest and looking for an honest dialogue. I would never say that what I am doing or have done was newer than anything else. There is always a large history that I am drawing from when ever I am working on a project. Just because you put your heart into something that has soul does not make it anything, let alone experimental. Yes the Grand-Pubahs are drawing from different genres of music, but that is no where near experimental. It is pastiche. Just remember you are the one that has perceived me as being rude. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:12:05 -0400 (EDT) I would disagree. Experimentation does not exist. I think this attitude is pretty harsh and stuck up. By using the same logic, you could say that Charles Mingus isn't experimental. After all, the double-bass had been around for centuries before him, as did the keys and chords that he used. It isn't as if he singlehandedly invented jazz, right? I think a more laidback and encouraging attitude would be to say that almost anything with soul is experimental. Take the Detroit Grand PuBahs. They're using booty, detroit techno, and dub, and taking the piss out of it. Having fun and seeing how far they can go. Like it or not musically, (and I am nearer to the not), I'd say they are putting their heart into it, having a blast, and expanding the horizons of the music coming out of our city. Respectable, IMO. I try to not be so inclusive as to what I consider experimental, and it benefits my art and my dealings with others greatly. Micho makes good music, and does it in his own quirky little way. Manipulating the guts of musical equipment, nonmusical equipment, pyrotechnics, etc. are not considered experiments? I think you have pretty high standards, Jared. Then using such a rude term as reinventing the wheel and excusing yourself by saying no offense I just want some discourse. Remember that sinewaves, quadrophenia, and room tone aren't exactly inventing new forms of wheels, either. Perhaps you could give us some more concrete examples of what experimental art means to you (no pun intended with the concrete) n8 Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:23:27 +0100 (BST) Micho, I realy do not believe what you are doing or have done would be concidered experimental. If it involves experimentation it is experimental - so if I sit down to make a track, if I do not start out with a concrete idea but instead figure it out as i go, then this is experimental no matter how straight ahead the resulting track is. neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom
I apologies for the generalisations, but it is difficult to include every thought into a single e-mail. My point was simply that the term experimental has become over used and stagnent in meaning. I am pushing for a more descriptive and in-depth analysis of what Micho is doing. It is difficult enough to talk about sound and music, or anything for that matter, because of the limitation of language. We will never be able to actually know what someone is referring to, but if we keep trying and having more in-depth discourses, such as these, we can become more informed. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: mkarora [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:07:06 -0400 (EDT) oh no, here we go again... i agree w/ the following statement: Just because you put your heart into something that has soul does not make it anything, let alone experimental. true enough. i never thought of soul being the equivalent or synonomous w/experimental...although they can overlap. however, experimenting is trying something new... it's relative to the person. one question, why make such broad generalisations, such as there is no experimentation. what purpose does this (belief) serve, not that i'm completely utilitarian it seems narrow minded..and limited. my $0.02 perhaps, i've missed the point all together... i feel like i usually do, with these trance/techno... experimental/noexper' discussions. hmmm. -m __ Manika K Arora www.umich.edu/~shanthi On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, JARED WILSON wrote: Yes I do have high standards. Why would anyone want to have low ones. I never said that Micho does not make good music. I was inquiring to his use of the word experiment to describe what he does. I disagreed with the description and ask about it. How is that being hash or stuck-up. I am just being honest and looking for an honest dialogue. I would never say that what I am doing or have done was newer than anything else. There is always a large history that I am drawing from when ever I am working on a project. Just because you put your heart into something that has soul does not make it anything, let alone experimental. Yes the Grand-Pubahs are drawing from different genres of music, but that is no where near experimental. It is pastiche. Just remember you are the one that has perceived me as being rude. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:12:05 -0400 (EDT) I would disagree. Experimentation does not exist. I think this attitude is pretty harsh and stuck up. By using the same logic, you could say that Charles Mingus isn't experimental. After all, the double-bass had been around for centuries before him, as did the keys and chords that he used. It isn't as if he singlehandedly invented jazz, right? I think a more laidback and encouraging attitude would be to say that almost anything with soul is experimental. Take the Detroit Grand PuBahs. They're using booty, detroit techno, and dub, and taking the piss out of it. Having fun and seeing how far they can go. Like it or not musically, (and I am nearer to the not), I'd say they are putting their heart into it, having a blast, and expanding the horizons of the music coming out of our city. Respectable, IMO. I try to not be so inclusive as to what I consider experimental, and it benefits my art and my dealings with others greatly. Micho makes good music, and does it in his own quirky little way. Manipulating the guts of musical equipment, nonmusical equipment, pyrotechnics, etc. are not considered experiments? I think you have pretty high standards, Jared. Then using such a rude term as reinventing the wheel and excusing yourself by saying no offense I just want some discourse. Remember that sinewaves, quadrophenia, and room tone aren't exactly inventing new forms of wheels, either. Perhaps you could give us some more concrete examples of what experimental art means to you (no pun intended with the concrete) n8 Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:23:27 +0100 (BST) Micho, I realy do not believe what you are doing or have done would be concidered experimental. If it involves experimentation it is experimental - so if I sit down to make a track, if I do not start out with a concrete idea but instead figure it out as i go, then this is experimental no matter how straight ahead the resulting track is. neil
Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts
The sounds that I use in my installations range from a basic sine-wave drown to hard minimal beats that move around the room from speaker to speaker. An early installation I did consisted of four speakers in a stairwell. Each speaker was placed corresponding to the four floor locations (one speaker per floor). Individual tones where assigned to each speaker making up a chord. The tones would fade in and out so sometimes there were only two tones or three or one or all four. As you ascended or descended the stairwell the sound took on many different qualities because of the acoustics. Recently I have been focusing on the surface and placement of sounds within the room and patterns they are played in, not the ambient sounds between the notes (which has become very cliche in music lately). The sounds I use in recent installations are dry (no reverb, chorus, flange, etc) and utilizing delay to move the rhythm around the room. I look forward to any responses or questions. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:10:39 GMT Hi, this is cyborg k from kalamazoo, what you are doing really interests me. For years I've talked about ideas like this with friends but we never had the means to try them. What kind of music are you producing then as part of these experiments? I'd be very curious to hear it! --dave Original Message Follows From: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:57:11 PDT My work is not in the traditional sense visual. When I have a show in a gallery I do sound installations. The installation is usually concieved after viewing the space it is intended for. My installations consist only of speakers and the sound which is also produced after viewing the space. My work is about the pure perception of the sound. I did a collaborative 24 hour live p.a. last summer with documentary maker Jody Huellmantel. I will inform the list of any future events. I look forward to any future inquires. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:05:13 CDT Wow! sounds like you are having fun! My name is Dennis Donohue, and I'm originally from the D, though i live in chicago right now. If you wouldn't mind spilling some stories of your music, I'd like to hear them. I, also, am a (somewhat amatuer) producer, and have a strong fine arts background - in fact I turned down a partial scholarship to CCS and to Kendall university. What type of music are you into? What form of visual presentation do you provide? Do you make your visuals or sample them from movies\shows\web? I don't really have enough money to establish a label of my own, though i do make and release my music on cds (because it is relatively inexpensive as far as music promotion goes.) Thanks for your time!!! Regards, Dennis From: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 06:33:06 PDT Haye! Besides the excelent work of Abdul Haqq on Submerge, does anyone know of any visual artists *directly* connected to 313 Techno? Okay, there are some who you might think as fitting in what you'd expect from visual arts in techno, but I mean people who are in close relationship with the music and imagery. Yes, My name is Jared Wilson and I have a b.f.a. from the Center for Creative Studies plus been a d.j./ producer for eight years. My artwork (although I would not draw a line between artwork and music) during the past few years has concentrated on sound. I have had two one man exhibitions in the past year and a half. Both of which involved sound installations based off of rhythm. I have not had a trad art show in a while as I have been concentrating mostly on my new record label. If anyone has any questions about what I am doing I would be eager to have a more in depth dialogue. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS p.s. I will have a mix on www.frequencydetroit.com by july 25 and will be playing at Motor on Aug. 25. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from
Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts
My work is not in the traditional sense visual. When I have a show in a gallery I do sound installations. The installation is usually concieved after viewing the space it is intended for. My installations consist only of speakers and the sound which is also produced after viewing the space. My work is about the pure perception of the sound. I did a collaborative 24 hour live p.a. last summer with documentary maker Jody Huellmantel. I will inform the list of any future events. I look forward to any future inquires. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:05:13 CDT Wow! sounds like you are having fun! My name is Dennis Donohue, and I'm originally from the D, though i live in chicago right now. If you wouldn't mind spilling some stories of your music, I'd like to hear them. I, also, am a (somewhat amatuer) producer, and have a strong fine arts background - in fact I turned down a partial scholarship to CCS and to Kendall university. What type of music are you into? What form of visual presentation do you provide? Do you make your visuals or sample them from movies\shows\web? I don't really have enough money to establish a label of my own, though i do make and release my music on cds (because it is relatively inexpensive as far as music promotion goes.) Thanks for your time!!! Regards, Dennis From: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 06:33:06 PDT Haye! Besides the excelent work of Abdul Haqq on Submerge, does anyone know of any visual artists *directly* connected to 313 Techno? Okay, there are some who you might think as fitting in what you'd expect from visual arts in techno, but I mean people who are in close relationship with the music and imagery. Yes, My name is Jared Wilson and I have a b.f.a. from the Center for Creative Studies plus been a d.j./ producer for eight years. My artwork (although I would not draw a line between artwork and music) during the past few years has concentrated on sound. I have had two one man exhibitions in the past year and a half. Both of which involved sound installations based off of rhythm. I have not had a trad art show in a while as I have been concentrating mostly on my new record label. If anyone has any questions about what I am doing I would be eager to have a more in depth dialogue. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS p.s. I will have a mix on www.frequencydetroit.com by july 25 and will be playing at Motor on Aug. 25. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Good book on Techno...
Second: does anyone know of any good books about techno in particular, or electronic music in general? I've read Techno Rebels by Dan More Brilliant than the Sun by Kodwo Eshun is an exceptional about the history and related phenomena of techno, house, jungle, etc. Kodwo has written for many periodicals including the wire. The book is a good change from all of the modern garbage that surrounds techno media. I recommend this book highly over Techno Rebels by Dan Sicko. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] the appeals of repetition...
You should check out the book More Brilliant than the Sun by Kodwo Eshun. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
