Re: [313] 313?
. i did not get on the list to learn the website of the libertarian party or why george bush has ties to secret societies. if i wanted to know about those things i would simply punch the words into my search engine and surf away. All it took is was to delete. in the latest digest version alone i would wager that about 70% of the content had absolutely nothing to do with detroit techno. it didn't even have anything to do with the political nature of groups like underground resistance or the beta bodega ___?. While your doing all this wagering, I thought you wanted to learn about Detroit Techno? The above statement looks to me like you already know, or have formed some opinion. Take my hand chum, and I'd show you were it all began, in a wonderful club called the Outcast which not too many people on this list have been. My apologies to U and the list, hows this, I will remain quite for some lengthy period of time...so everyone can be On Topic - Original Message - From: Samuel Hobbs Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] 313? i'd call you a chump right back but i am not so presumptious as to lie myself into believing that i know you or anything about you. therefore i wouldn't call you any names. i got on this list to talk about and learn about detroit techno. i did not get on the list to learn the website of the libertarian party or why george bush has ties to secret societies. if i wanted to know about those things i would simply punch the words into my search engine and surf away. in the latest digest version alone i would wager that about 70% of the content had absolutely nothing to do with detroit techno. it didn't even have anything to do with the political nature of groups like underground resistance or the beta bodega ___?. you made an assumption about me that i was smiley's cousin or something. well to answer your jab... i am not, nor do i know who smiley is. it is correct that i kept my mouth shut when members were posting links to stupid flash animation. but at least it was only a link instead of the insidious drool of non-stop political posturing. all that i ask is that people stop with the crap which is overtly and unabashedly political or religious. it is offensive to say the least to any catholics or mormons who have somehow been linked to the evil plot of corporations to take over our very existence. i am offended as a catholic to be linked in this way. my dad said a long time ago to me that if i ever wanted to cause a bar fight all i had to do was mention religion or politics. that is what has occurred here. rather keep the list to what it was intended for...a forum for music discussion, it has turned into a mailing list for the left-wing activists. this i don't appreciate. furthermore, i thought this was a moderated list. running out of steam -sam --- Omar Hackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G..(gains composure) U gotta be freakn Smiley's cousin or something! Who cares what you think and dont care about, some things have strayed far from the point, but what is on Topic what you want to discuss? Or to U others, anyone one who wants to step up, is it SOLELY about music? AS THOUGH, culture and politics are not interrelated. No analysis, no nothing! It should be a combo, but I didnt see you complaining when people were sending dumb snippets of just GOOFY stuff to the list. U know your options but dont try to control what everyone talks about cuz u dont want to talk about it, or because you're using to much effort in hiting the delete key. Oh my favorite mix, its called butcher little Johnny, but i cant recall the DJ who mixed it. WHy? Oh it just fit the purpose of this email (I'd call U a chump, but hey there is no name calling on this list, so I wont do it) - Original Message - From: Samuel Hobbs Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:37 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] 313? i am just wondering if this is a detroit techno list or a list in which members can air bitches about george, bush, ford, evil corporate entities, etc, etc., etc. if i wanted to hear about this crap as opposed to what new album is hot or what talented dj or live pa is coming to town then i would have signed up on some anti-corporation, anti-republican, anti-everything list. ***PLEASE GET THE FUCK BACK ON TOPIC*** now i know that someone will argue that this stuff is somehow relevant to 313 but i don't give a shit. it's an irrevalent argument. so to help the list enter a new and exciting era of on-topic discussion, i will ask the question what is your favorite mixtape or live dj set on cd and why? -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [313] 313?
G..(gains composure) U gotta be freakn Smiley's cousin or something! Who cares what you think and dont care about, some things have strayed far from the point, but what is on Topic what you want to discuss? Or to U others, anyone one who wants to step up, is it SOLELY about music? AS THOUGH, culture and politics are not interrelated. No analysis, no nothing! It should be a combo, but I didnt see you complaining when people were sending dumb snippets of just GOOFY stuff to the list. U know your options but dont try to control what everyone talks about cuz u dont want to talk about it, or because you're using to much effort in hiting the delete key. Oh my favorite mix, its called butcher little Johnny, but i cant recall the DJ who mixed it. WHy? Oh it just fit the purpose of this email (I'd call U a chump, but hey there is no name calling on this list, so I wont do it) - Original Message - From: Samuel Hobbs Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:37 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] 313? i am just wondering if this is a detroit techno list or a list in which members can air bitches about george, bush, ford, evil corporate entities, etc, etc., etc. if i wanted to hear about this crap as opposed to what new album is hot or what talented dj or live pa is coming to town then i would have signed up on some anti-corporation, anti-republican, anti-everything list. ***PLEASE GET THE FUCK BACK ON TOPIC*** now i know that someone will argue that this stuff is somehow relevant to 313 but i don't give a shit. it's an irrevalent argument. so to help the list enter a new and exciting era of on-topic discussion, i will ask the question what is your favorite mixtape or live dj set on cd and why? -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Re: [313] Kooky conspiracy
Its understandable Fred especially when denial is many peoples best quality nowadays. Conspiracy, oh brother, that term/concept is what 2 or 3 years old now... Besides I would say its NOT a conspiracy, for that is what big business does, dont they? The capitalist monster is drooling licking her chops over the DEMF, give it a couple of years and U'll C. Why do many find it hard to believe the glowing obvious? (no flame intended) End of transmission... - Original Message - From: Fred Giannelli Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:33 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Kooky conspiracy All this talk about corporate takeover conspiracy is making me sick ; ( ; P If I pass around a hat during my performance will some of you put in money so I can release some new music? Telepathic regards, The Kooky Scientist Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: May 25th - Detroit Electronic Music Fest http://www.electronicmusicfest.com/lineup/index.html -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Re: [313] about moby and his corporate money he receives...
Peace Be unto U Funny, Kent I have been on the list long enough to know when you didnt even use the word hater, but now your own the bandwagon using it as though your all in..come on Chap give it a rest, pretty please with sugar and cherry on top! I do agree with one thing you said, how the heck could a Moby even be discussed. Thus I wont! I will however deal with one issue. Who the hell said that money helps, hunh, who said it? Unbelievable! Dont any of you know that we been doing this sh*t for years without money! If we compiled all the brothas together that are engineers, general technicians, lighting technicians, a builder to build the stages(who takes scraps from the lumber yard), rented some microphones and other digital equipment, planners and organizers, cats in production, promotions etc..., coupled with all the other trimmings I'd imagine that it could be pulled off. But who has the courage to try it? Point: U dont need, necessarily, corporate sponsors for this type of thing. These brothas and others around the country and globe have been doing this stuff for years...with just what they have, and no one is mad on this side about it. Basically, we'd hope U'd get the message to keep churging ahead with what you got, forging networks of people with LIKEMIND, and thats how it could be even bigger and better without the corporations cash and still retain its integrity. QUESTION: Do any of you believe in coming together, and that something positive, organized, and constructive can result from such a unity? DONT ANSWER, its rhetorical. I would guess that if you did believe it, then your post, as well as your treatment of people outside the world of 313 would reflect such a belief. Nick W, keep up the good work! - Original Message - From: Kent williams Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:03 AM To: 313 list Subject: Re: [313] about moby and his corporate money he receives... I find all this talk pro and con moby talk absurd. I've been around long enough to remember when he was a guy with a few records out who worked @ instinct, and used to exchange e-mail with him. He always seemed like a nice, sincere guy, and I have reason to think he's change that much. Everything he's doing now is more a function of being caught up in a massive updraft of cash, and none of y'all can claim you'd be doing it any differently, or any better. Artistically I'm not a fan, though the track with gwen stefani doesn't suck as bad as the other shit on the radio that my kid make me listen to. Anyone who makes it on pop radio without making me cringe can't be all bad. The thing I wonder is why on 313 people feel like it's worth their time and energy to be hating on Moby? He's mostly harmless. Get over it. Basically I don't like people hating on anyone -- the thing about haters is the more they hate, the less they actually know. And lest this be misinterpreted -- I'm not talking about Diane or any of the other heads who got sucked into the convo -- haters, you know who I'm talking about. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
I'll open the can of worms! Perhaps, and just perhaps, some people realize that there is/has been a graphic revolution especially in America. Many people now desire a picture, photograph, music video etcto associate with an artist. Perhaps, and I make direct reference to Mr. Banks, he saying---who gives a flyin fluck what the h*ll I look like, if the music is tight then ___(fill in the blank). Ultimately, it all points, and YES this is just my .005 cents worth of an opinion, back to the fact that many of us are just about the image. And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy? It causes a subtle change in the way people are acustomed to things, it goes against the grains of this graphic revolution, it serves as a basis for change. The mask issue deserves no comment. End of Transmission - Original Message - From: Tom Robbins Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 6:00 AM To: 313 mailing list Subject: [313] faceless techno b**s So recently I was mulling over the way UR and Maurizio/Basic Channel refuse to be photographed and rarely ever give interviews, and how this facelessness projects to music consumers and how it adds to the general air of mystique surrounding the artist. Can anyone point to other bands or musicians who have employed this tactic, whether they be from the realms of techno and/or dance music or any other genres? And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy? As a starter for ten, did you know that David Soul (in his pre-Starsky Hutch days) used to eke out a living as a singer songwriter called The Masked Man? He would take to the stage in a mask and cloak because he said he wanted people to concentrate on the music, although he admits he soon became better-known for the gimmick rather than his songs. - Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
If I am like anything like the cat, and I am, then thats correct! - Original Message - From: Gwendal Cobert Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] faceless techno b**s And there you might hit upon more than you would think. I believe that the idea of a photo stealing a soul lived among tribes of native Americans as Gwendal pointed out. If you know Mike Banks' background there may very well be a connection there to the refusal of being photographed. Actually I had Africans in mind - and I did not know Mike Banks had Indian blood (that's what you are referring to, right ?) Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
CiM--Warm Data The Emoticon Sampler 01-02
I am a little late on this stuff I know, I know. But I just got these two gems the other day. CiM continues to bust me up with those melodic vibrations he's combining! Of course relaxing at home is the phatest track to my ears---and I would boldly say that its about one of his best tracks that I have heard. Incredible! The Emoticon Sampler features CiM, Future Beat Alliance, some chap named Mark Mclaren who's made this explosive dance track called twang, not to mention(but I gotta) this tune entitled outnumbered. Metamatics has a nice tune on it called Hymn bream(thats what my playlist says). Conemelt with a nice off basis but soothing tuneSome artist named X-asp--but I didnt care for any of those tunes so far O-jax!!br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Salz....in the Mix
Thats all this CD(r) says. The good chap who made it 4 me says that the guy is German. Regardless, its standard Techno although a little slower --reminds me of LuckyEasysemi-melodic and just damn GOOD!. Any one got any further info or ideas about this Salz fella? Pre-thanks O-jax!!br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Quick question...
Peace. Many who know me, are still baffled as to why I dont have a darn T-Table. Some have told me that 80% of the best techno and house/tech-house comes out on vinyl only. Just as others are bewildered by me not having a t-table, so too am I with EVERYONE having onethus my question is this... How many people, in anyones estimation, spin for a club, or DJ at private gigs, etc. As oppossed to those who just buy vinyl just to listen to the 80%-good stuff on vinyl? (I really wanna freak'n know too) O-jax!!br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Re: [313] Quick question...
Thanks for your responsesI have asked nearly everyone under the Sun this question..M, C-note, Marsel, even that mean-ole nasty Tom freak'n Churchill--who has to be the most underrated artist around( I really cant talk enough about that damn cat). If your in the line of music---I can understand it, and I guess if you say 95% of the music---I can now understand it, but maybe I just fit the stereotype of being lazy--I just like the Program option, the repeat option, clarity, etc 95%.grrr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am gonna get one! Peace - Original Message - From: Phonopsia Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:56 AM To: Batory, Jason; 'Omar Hackett'; '313' Subject: Re: [313] Quick question... - Original Message - From: Batory, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Omar Hackett' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [313] Quick question... Well, I'm not a DJ and have no aspirations of becoming one but I have a turntable and only buy vinyl. I used to get by just buying CDs but as my tastes developed and my appetite for new, deep music increased I knew it couldn't be satisfied without a turntable. Buying vinyl does open up a whole new world, it just depends on whether you want/need to go there or not. I wouldn't get too worried about it, if you can't see the need to get a turntable then you probably don't have to, as long as you're enjoying your music. Maybe these people who are baffled and bewildered by you need to get a life of their own. Jayson is 100% right on. I started out DJing with CDs b/c I started DJing on the radio and I couldn't find the music I liked on vinyl in Iowa. About 2 years after I started my radio show (with assorted vinyl purchases along the way) I opted to buy my first 1200 to compliment my Denon 2x CD players. I think I lasted about three months before I bought the 2nd 1200, and this was in '94 when CD compilations were at their most revelatory for new initiates. Suffice it to say, I am now a vinyl devotee, and have been for many years. i would never have delved as deep into house or techno w/o vinyl purchses. It is simply impossible to have your finger on the pulse without a turntable right now, although the internet may change this in the next few years. Besides all of that, vinyl sounds 1000x better than CD once you acquire the taste for it. For instance, I bought Pole 1 + 2 on vinyl despite extra cost even though I rarely spin it, simply because I wanted to listen to it on vinyl when I'm in the mood. Vinyl is the template of the Gods. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.combr clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Re: [313] Mark Broom / Baby Ford / Dave Hill / etc ...
Fake Fruit and Horrible Shoes, a pure plastic compilationhas some decent tracks..Broom's best track to me has to be LiltG, just original as can be in many waysI believe they record as Repeat(s)(I dont know the exact combo---all the who made up the Repeat disguise) Kapelmeister toobut somebody who is more technical in the knowledge oughta jump in an give a hand Oh and they did a tune called Gaspar which I really, really dig too. - Original Message - From: beautiful individual Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 4:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Mark Broom / Baby Ford / Dave Hill / etc ... check out mark 'vistor' broom's 12 on D1 records - a true classic. also, the pt 1 remixes (by, amongst others, octave one) are now available from the same label. otherwise check out label pure plastic for mark broom's and rue east's (mark broom and dave hill) stuff. baby ford's output mostly on his own label ifach. also look out for minimal man, one of his monikers, but don't know what label he released under that name. has also released stuff on reflex. brilliant mark broom and dave hill 12 on warp under name sympletic (i think). released 1995 (?). think it might be still available on vinyl. aidan From: Bobic Mislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Mark Broom / Baby Ford / Dave Hill / etc ... Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:02:33 +0400 Hello everybody ! Any comments / recommendations on music done by artists from this camp ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Basic Channel
Can I get a discography for Basic Channel? Some of the coolest cats on the planet---just down to earth and humble...I met em last year and keep thinking/ complaining that they should release more of there tracks on CD. And if someone was gonna make a compilation for you of Basic Channel tunes, which ones would U choose? Thanks O-jax!!br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Outta Toronto N-2 tha D
Peace, Anybody coming from the Toronto area on Friday heading into Detroit. Funds are quite tight, yet I will probably make it(I may need to hitch a ride)? And hey to my Big Buddy C-note..can I get put up for the night... Oh yeah, anybody going to the Outcast, Lester? O-jax!!br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
