Re: Sven Väth - Butoh (Robert Hood Remix)

2023-09-07 Thread Sakari Karipuro
i dunno. good drive but i personally don't like that kind of kickdrums at
all, so maybe not for me.

-s

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 4:37 PM Dubloop  wrote:

> https://soundcloud.com/svenvath-music/butoh-robert-hood-remix
>
>
> what do you think about it?
>
>
> perso: i got mixed feelings
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> --
> pertin-nce.bandcamp.com
> the-end-is-near.bandcamp.com
> soundcloud.com/pertin-nce
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Re: (313) roll call?

2013-06-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro
mmmh.. lurking. lurking a lot lately. reading occasionally. been here
since 98-99-ish?

-sakke

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM,  maxphi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.

 Anyone else?

 m50


 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:

 how many subscribers are left anyway?

 and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?


 Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:

 btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good
 to be back!





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Re: (313) roll call?

2012-12-03 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Still here.. reading every now and then and posting rarely (way too
busy with other things in life). been here me thinks.. since '99 or
so?

mmm.. coffee

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Placid pla...@acid-house.net wrote:
 Nice to see so many people still around, can't remember when I subbed, but 
 still posting,  just had a baby girl (the heiress to my record collection) so 
 don't have as much time to spend on music but stil buying and playing out

 P


 Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Nov 2012, at 05:26, darkcube darkc...@datavibe.net wrote:

 hello, indeed.

 - darkcube [ detroit techno militia ]

 On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:23 PM, xcopy wrote:

 Hi there.


 Erik Cronin
 http://codine.com

 From: maxphi...@gmail.com maxphi...@gmail.com
 To: mar...@nomorewords.net; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:57 AM
 Subject: (313) roll call?

 I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.

 Anyone else?

 m50


 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 how many subscribers are left anyway?

 and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?


 Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
 btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good
 to be back!




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Re: (313) track id: want/need/feel my love

2011-06-13 Thread Sakari Karipuro
My fave mix of that lonnie gordon track; came out on white label around 93.
killer drums, bassline.. everything top notch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ser40d5Ncfc



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Re: (313) Melodic techno (was new planet e)

2006-08-24 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Jamil Ali wrote on Wed, 23 Aug 2006 about following:


My own 2 cents:

I think you see the same thing in all types of music.  A style is developed 
at some time, and it's innovative at the time, and it sounds great.  After 
the style is pioneered, it remains popular with people who love it, and they 
start making tracks in that style, using the same ideas.  And since it's been 
done before they have templates to work from and they can elaborate on and 
'perfect' the ideas that were already there, to the point where they're doing 
them 'better' and more sophisticated than the originals.


It's all about aesthetics instead of content for them. And that makes 
music dull; there's no innovation, or feeling.


sakke



Re: (313) retroactive 002

2006-03-29 Thread Sakari Karipuro

robin wrote on Wed, 29 Mar 2006 about following:


Juno stick to the 30 second thing too. Some sites don't though as you say.


hmm, they do? usually they have something like 1m30s to 3m.. never seen 
less than 1m sample on their site!?


..unless they've switched last week


sakke


RE: (313) Track ID

2006-03-07 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Robert Taylor wrote on Tue, 7 Mar 2006 about following:


I think that's DJ Pierre - Atom Bomb - my version came out on Guerilla
though I think it was license from elsewhere


most probably that. also reissued in late 90's on twisted.

-  http://www.discogs.com/artist/Doomsday

sakke


Re: (313) Re : Re: [a]pendics.shuffle

2006-03-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Matt Kane's Brain wrote on Sun, 5 Mar 2006 about following:


I'm surprised you like this, sakke. :)


I'm full of surprises. I checked more clips from juno, but other tracks 
by this artist didn't have the feel I was looking for. Too glitchy for 
my taste.


sakke


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-04 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Kent Williams wrote on Fri, 3 Mar 2006 about following:


2. Tom is opinionated, and sometimes even abrasive, but 'his way or
the highway?'  Please, Tom has no such power here. Feel free to
disagree.


Well I think he just said what he thinks, he's entitled to that; if 
people get annoyed over such thing it's a shame. Then again, opinions 
are the best reason to disagree and wage war.


I'm even worse than him, although I occasionally like to troll a bit, 
just to wake people up. I'm think I'm bitter old man ;)


People shouln't take things too seriously, but sometimes they do. 
(including me)



So, any good techno stuff out lately that isn't married to progressive, 
minimal or tech? preferably funky, groovy? I've really been buying 
mostly house lately and I think my techno collection is lacking a bit 
some fresh stuff.



cheers,
sakke


Re: (313) falling up : cover or remix?

2006-02-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro


uh, yeah, old topic but..

Lee Herrington wrote on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 about following:


Finally caught an earful of CC's version of Theo's Falling Up on Gilles
radio show.  I have to say that I enjoyed the track.  Is this Falling Up
technically a cover?  I had heard that CC was unable to use the DAT's from
Theo's original, so he had to reconstruct the track.


Uh, finally got myself one. I can't imagine that this really 
boring, middle-of-the-road-progressive-house-track-by-numbers has 
anything to do with Carl Craig, even less with Theo Parrish.


or maybe i've suddenly transported in some other strange dimension where 
progressive house is the main deal.


sakke


Re: (313) falling up : cover or remix?

2006-02-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote on Fri, 17 Feb 2006 about following:


On 2/17/06, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

up style reminds me of paperclip people more than progressive
house...it's a very classy
dancefloor track..


Well. i admit being a bit troll-y in my previous post, but i was, and 
still am, really let down by this track. The melody, the bassline 
are both really horrible sound-wise, really cheap and cheesy. the 
organ -like jamming somewhere there is quite nice but it's the only 
decent stuff in this track. The kickdrum has no bottoms, it's too 
uptight, the build-up is really cheesy and quite un-eventful and doesn't 
really go anywhere. And the main synth really reminds me more of 
euro-house/trance..


But the overall feeling i get this from track is very 
progressive-housey. Then again i'm not feeling a lot of this 
tech-house or whatever it's called nowadays. Most of the stuff sounds 
so weak and emotionless, lacking groove and funk (which has plagued 
techno overall for the whole 00's i think).



not that its derivative, but its kinda like the angola remix he did


I didn't like Angola either, nor Jaguar (the blueprint for this 
sort of stuff).



sakke


Re: (313) falling up : cover or remix?

2006-02-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote on Fri, 17 Feb 2006 about following:


On 2/17/06, Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


are both really horrible sound-wise, really cheap and cheesy. the


have you heard the original track? i mean, carl may have chosen the


No, i have not.


The kickdrum has no bottoms


it doesnt need it. i mean we can get into a discussion about mixdowns,
but if you have a bassy kick and a bassline at the same time, they
clash frequencies and you get lots of farting. the track has plenty of
bass so its a tradeoff.


It's all about ducking the bassline away from the kick, with sidechain 
compressor. or being really picky about the frequencies and using eq and 
multiband.



tech-house or whatever it's called nowadays. Most of the stuff sounds
so weak and emotionless, lacking groove and funk (which has plagued
techno overall for the whole 00's i think).


i feel you on that, but not on this track. or anything carl has done
recently. even after the sh*t i talked on sandstorms when he
released it, after hearing it on a loud system i understood what he
was doing. and really, this remix is in that same vein as that track,
and the angel/darkness 12. he definitely seems to have a new
production style, its very sleek and dark and really is meant to be
experienced on a dancefloor with a good sound system. i dont think
that detracts from the quality of music he's doing.


Jaguar, aguila etc copycats already worn this style out years ago. It's 
not very innovative, it's like you know you wait the track to build up 
in similar manner like ~11 years ago you expected to hear the 
snare-roll. it's like waiting the trance-track to peak up after the 
break with supersaw. It's sort of novelty production trick, like the 
snare-roll, supersaw, dub-style-delay, 3/4 rhythms that have been used 
too much, perhaps occasionally just building a track around the trick 
forgetting all about basics, therefor making quite inferior track. And 
I think this is what happened with this track.



sakke


Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks?

2006-02-07 Thread Sakari Karipuro

v12 wrote on Mon, 6 Feb 2006 about following:

house  techno 's been raped so many times that techno turned 
into...deep techno
while house became deep house to escape from the negative conotation - not 
sure if it's funny or not, but surely a weird process to observe.


I simply hate deep anything. It just gives everyone chance to label 
anything they don't understand to this deep something genre, 
regardless if it's any deep anything. Whatever that then means! I hate 
it when people come around, hearing great garage house and say deep 
house! because it just damn well is not deep, it's uplifting, soulful 
and funky. I think deep anything used to have a meaning in the past: 
it meant slow building athmospheric tracks that weren't that driving or 
energetic or uplifting. But nowadays deep is just throwaway anything 
not trendy. except lots of crappy progressive house is labelled as 
deep house but;  Maybe this deep anything means to most trendy people 
something cool, more undergroundy stuff, which they really don't like 
but need to be talking about to keep their trendiness levels up.



okay time for morning coffee, that was quite.. messy.

sakke


Re: (313) discogs.com

2005-12-22 Thread Sakari Karipuro

robin wrote on Wed, 21 Dec 2005 about following:



I have a lot of Roule records but not thisI'd got sick of hearing it not 
long after it came out.


I have few Roule records, even the Stardust one. Thought they were 
trendy at the time. Nevertheless, nowadays looking back they are mostly 
gathering dust (haven't stood test of time) apart Spinal Scratch b-side, 
Spinal Beats which i think is quite nice and sick drum -workout..



sakke


Re: (313) Genres

2005-11-16 Thread Sakari Karipuro

fab. wrote on Wed, 16 Nov 2005 about following:

a while back everyone on soulseek was raving on about Latvian Banjo Trance 
but I'm more into Minimal Gabber Ambient


i'm more into Minimal slam tech jazz-funk and Doom booty psy doo-wop ;

these are like really underground stuff, i really don't know who's doin 
'em since this stuff is only released on whitelabels limited to less 
than 10 copies! hard to get, really expensive. but some serious s**t!!



ps. i heard the rock dudes around the corner to talk about depressive 
tolkien unblack stoner rock, which should be really hot next week in 
those circles!


:D

pps. real stuff; what on earth is reggaeton, sublow, grime..

sakke


Re: (313) Re: tyree - acid over

2005-10-12 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Guilherme Menegon Arantes wrote on Wed, 12 Oct 2005 about following:



Thanks Placid/Yoda. And the book should be called: The Acidpedia.

So, this brings to the second part of my question:
I love acid and I love piano house tracks. So, which other acid tracks
(with a 303 and rough beats) have a nice piano or synth line on top?


Kool Rock Steady  - Let's Get Hyped
http://www.discogs.com/release/370794

especially B1, Let's Get Hyped (The Friday Late Night Music Box)

not forgetting Tyree - Turn Up The Bass

just check all Tyree productions actually ;)


sakke


RE: (313) Cybotron question

2005-08-23 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Odeluga, Ken wrote on Tue, 23 Aug 2005 about following:


Discogs is fukt. Not even the original version of 'Clear' is in there!

http://www.discogs.com/release/17859


I keep wondering.. that 12 has the only version dating back to 80's of 
Clear i've ever heard.. even that cd-reissue of Enter, named Clear 
has exactly the same version. So, was there some other Original 
version ever released on vinyl (or cd) back in the day?



sakke


Re: (313) Chicago House At Root of Detroit Techno? (Was Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno)

2005-07-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 6 Jul 2005 about following:


Now of course besides Cybotron, can anyone else
name some artists who were producing music in such a vein in the US at
the time?


Hi Ken. Think your pretty spot on with most points, but regards same music
same time etc, I think you could point to the electro records of the same
period and pretty much concede that they didn't really sound so different.


and not forgetting that.. front 242 - geography was released in '82 iirc.


sakke


Re: (313) Discogs? Slowdowns?

2005-07-05 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Thorin Teague wrote on Tue, 5 Jul 2005 about following:


Yes, discogs is back up, but running excruciatingly slow for me. Anyone else?


it just time-outs for me, although traceroute seems fine..

sakke


Re: (313) Hello 313, I am....

2005-06-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 16 Jun 2005 about following:


Introduce yourself!


Name : read From
Age : 30 (in october)
Place I live : Tampere, Finland.
On list: Since '99 i think
Into techno: since 91 or so
First 313 record: can't remember


sakke


Re: (313) clarence g

2005-06-16 Thread Sakari Karipuro

David Beattie wrote on Thu, 16 Jun 2005 about following:


BTW - I heard a rumour that there may be a repress
coming the same route as the Glass Domain one of a
couple of years ago. Not sure how certain this is
though


Hmm whats the story with glass domain.. it was on the shelf of local 
shop and i was told that it is supposed to be some old lost classic, 
but i had never heard/seen it before. and i thought the music was quite 
crap.. it must be one of those e-clash kids doin' some hype what i 
said to the shop owner, i think.



sakke


Re: (313) summer techno

2005-05-14 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 12 May 2005 about following:


well, the suns out, and i've gone all dizzy already.

whats your favourite summer techno track?


the orb - little fluffy clouds
(well, their first 2 albums anyway)

the future sound of london - cascade 12


sakke
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Re: (313) Clause 58 Repetitive Beats

2005-05-11 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There were a number of records released to combat (or were in the wake of)
 the No Repetitive Beats Clause (Clause 58 of the Criminal Justice Bill)

Autechre did one too..
http://www.discogs.com/release/157

 I doubt it caused jungle to come about - jungle/db was already in progress
 by this time (1994)

CJB had nothing to do with breakbeat/hardcore evolving into jungle/db

sakke


Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear

2005-05-11 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote:
  
 except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it.
 
 Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in the
 day? 

No. It was released on Fantasy Records. Quite big label on rock/jazz..
I have no idea how the rights are split between Atkins, Davies and Fantasy.

sakke


Re: (313) planet delsin 4 313 ears only

2005-04-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 5 Apr 2005 about following:


http://www.delsin.org/planetdelsin/


Hmm.

First listen on clips.. uh-oh, what? did they do the tracks back in 
80's?.. not so interesting


2nd listen .. hmm, not so bad afterall, but can't really make up my 
mind


3rd listen.. okay, some nice tunes but can't really make up my mind 
before hearing all the tracks proper


so i'll probably be ordering it to local shop and end up buying it, 
there was couple nice tunes, stinkworx, nubian minds, vince.. rest 
weren't really my cup of tea, at least judging from the clips.


anyway i really want those 3 tracks on vinyl i mentioned :)


sakke
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Re: (313) Hi Tech Soul - The Movie

2005-03-23 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Nathan wrote on Wed, 23 Mar 2005 about following:

 Another one is Tony Thorpe. But most of you just said 'who' to that, 
 didn't you?


well the only Tony Thorpe i've heard of plays football for the mighty QPR!


Nobody remembers The Moody Boys anymore!


sakke
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Re: (313) Mixes That Just Keep Giving

2005-03-22 Thread Sakari Karipuro



I keep listening Surgeon @ U Club, Bratislava,  6-12-03
again and again. Nobody else plays music like that. Totally crazy, 
inspired and different. I especially like how he's mixing all those 
really dark afx ambient tracks on top of driving techno tracks.


oh and it seems like that Vapourspace 1992 mix will be next big 
favourite of mine.


sakke
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Re: (313) Octave One - Somedays

2005-03-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Maarten Baute wrote on Thu, 17 Mar 2005 about following:


Derek Plaslaiko wrote:

did you like Blackwater?


I didn't like the vocal version. The original untold version was not bad.


I totally missed the track when it was huge. I actually heard the track 
first time couple of months ago when OO was playing live in Helsinki. 
I sort of like the vocal version, although some of the vocals just don't 
sound right. Instrumental version might be quite nice; i really like the 
string arrangements.. very emotional.


Downside with the whole track is tempo, i think it's somewhere way above 
130.. i wish it was somewhere around 120-122 :)




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Re: (313) analord

2005-03-08 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Andrew Hodgson wrote on Tue, 8 Mar 2005 about following:


Did I miss the Analord discussion?


yes!


People liking them so far?

I think they're great.


I've got 01, it's great; 02, 03 and 04 are waiting in the shop 'til i 
get more money next week.



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Re: (313) Monday Playlist

2005-02-21 Thread Sakari Karipuro

robin wrote on Mon, 21 Feb 2005 about following:


what's everyone else listening to?


In cd-player, now:
Skinny Puppy - Greater Wrong of The Right

..and before that, these visited the record player:

Stacey Mallory - Love Power (bumpin city)
Mr V. - Jus Dance (vega records)
Nu-Matic - Hard Times ep (xl)
Stetsasonic - Talkin All That Jazz (tommy boy)
AFX - Analord 1 (rephlex)
Jocelyn Brown - Somebody Else's Guy (unidisc)
Balil - Parasight (rising high)


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Re: (313) Track ID - Soulphiction ClassicCuts

2005-02-17 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Carlos de Brito wrote on Wed, 16 Feb 2005 about following:


henrik schwarz used that sample for his stunning 12:
Henrik Schwarz - Chicago
http://www.discogs.com/release/214967


So did Secret Ingredients, back in '96, for their track Chicago, 
Chicago. They are also known as Jedi Knights, Global Communication, 
Link... aka Tom Middleton  Mark Pritchard



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Re: (313) Track ID - Soulphiction ClassicCuts

2005-02-16 Thread Sakari Karipuro

sqrrt wrote on Wed, 16 Feb 2005 about following:

Any idea what the track that starts at 21:33 is? Must be obvious (Chicago, 
Chicago, where can I go?), but I don't have a clue.


roy ayers - chicago
http://www.discogs.com/release/243471


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Re: (313) Can anyone help me out of this situation?

2005-01-27 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Martin Dust wrote on Thu, 27 Jan 2005 about following:




 Ad supported and unstable? Why would I do that? Ad supported. 
 Sorry...that's a dealbreaker for me. Bittorrent is solid.


oh and everyone is aware that exeem contains some spyware? ok, move on..


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Re: (313) Can anyone help me out of this situation?

2005-01-27 Thread Sakari Karipuro


oh and sorry about bad quote, everyone.


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Re: (313) What you do at the Weekend?

2005-01-21 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Martin Dust wrote on Fri, 21 Jan 2005 about following:


Spot of BMB at House of God I think, what you lot up to?


probably checking out octave one on sunday, in helsinki, finland.


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Re: (313) Discogs on Crack and Morphine

2004-12-29 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 29 Dec 2004 about following:


Just been adding more stuff to my discogs and saw that people are now
entering MP3s of releases.


Yes, they've been welcome for a long time; but they only accept official 
releases. And Tresor has been releasing it's backcatalogue in mp3 
lately. You can find some net labels that release mp3|ogg there also.



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Re: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record

2004-12-11 Thread Sakari Karipuro

David Gillies wrote on Sat, 11 Dec 2004 about following:


Tim Baker wrote:


Its all sampled.   Ride the Rhythm vocal is from Little Louie Vega track
on Strictly Rhythm


I think you'll find that Little Louie Vega sampled the vocal as well. Its 
originally from Ride the Rhythm by On The House aka Marshall Jefferson.


Louie Vega didn't sample Jefferson on Marc Anthony's Ride The Rhythm 
back in '91(*) or so, he had Marc sing it all the way. Also, Anthony 
Acid doesn't seem to sample Vega's work. I have no idea if Vega sampled 
Jefferson on some other track.


* http://www.discogs.com/release/212454
(this is one of the great early masters at work productions, it has nice 
groove, basic piano-stuff and .. there's a little rap in it too!)


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Re: (313) Xmas Techno?

2004-12-05 Thread Sakari Karipuro

darnistle wrote on Sun, 5 Dec 2004 about following:

against nature!!!),  it got me wondering if there are other albums out there, 
hopefully of much better quality,  of holiday songs remixed or reworked in a 
jungle/techno/house/gabber/etc style? The less straightforward and 
cheez-driven the better.


Has anyone heard anything along these lines?


Every Christmas' high point (or not)
Rotterdam Termination Source - Merry X-Mess 12 on REACT

http://www.discogs.com/release/191211


and then a bit more housey.. 
Joi Cardwell - My First Christmas With You


http://www.discogs.com/release/178936


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Re: (313) remember JetGroove?

2004-12-03 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 3 Dec 2004 about following:


Well whaddya know?

http://www.audio1.org/


and again.. just hit trackfix to the search box.. and get some 
screenshots along the way :)



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Re: (313) Slightly OT: kool vids

2004-12-01 Thread Sakari Karipuro

gretchen anderson wrote on Wed, 1 Dec 2004 about following:


http://www.pleix.net/films.html

The Plaid one is particularly good.


That plaid one is also on the recent WARP dvd. Nice stuff, definitely.
I bought the dvd already a while ago, but got stuck somewhere around 
halfway through and totally forgot it, and then yesterday, managed to 
watch the rest.



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(313) test 1.2.3

2004-11-26 Thread Sakari Karipuro


Hmm, is this thing on? is it working? 
testing one two three, one two



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Re: (313) test 1.2.3

2004-11-26 Thread Sakari Karipuro

DJ Ken wrote on Fri, 26 Nov 2004 about following:


Yes! :)


Great, since my previous post didn't come through for reason or another. 
Maybe they've installed some new LAME POST filters or something ;) (or 
not.. )


lets get back to our regular chat now..

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Re: (313) Sonic Groove is closed!

2004-10-24 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Anton Banks (313) wrote on Sat, 23 Oct 2004 about following:


I can't believe that I'm writing this. Sonic Groove closed their doors
tonight. As fate would have it, I found myself being one of the last people
in the store. Apparently, their current inventory will be sold via their
website. After that, they're done...


there's lengthy thread about it in discogs.com:

http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=48810
(hmm, not sure if one has to be logged in to read the forums)



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Re: (313) Birthday greetings

2004-10-21 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 21 Oct 2004 about following:


Well, I'm off topic, but I'm past the point of caring.

Many Happy Returns to:

My Mate Bez (Last night) p.s. I met Bez's dad last night and he is the
world over 50's bog snorkelling champ. Beat that.

Greg Earle (today!)

Robin Pinning (tomorrow)

Me (tomorrow)


I'll be 29 tomorrow.. getting old. I'm already stressed about next year 
and being 30. happy birthday folks.




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RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?

2004-10-07 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Cobert, Gwendal wrote on Thu, 7 Oct 2004 about following:


On the music doesn't sell as much as it used to... tip -
I've read that while record sales are going down, tickets for concerts


Dunno bout concerts, but I recently read that most major record 
companies are saying that cd sales are going up for a change.



sakke


Re: (313) Deep Space Radio 1994

2004-09-15 Thread Sakari Karipuro

robin wrote on Wed, 15 Sep 2004 about following:



We got something super special for ya on EmotionElectric.com today.

We have a full editon of Deep Space Radio recorded in the Summer of 1994 
featuring the Super Mix 6:  Juan, Derrick, Kevin, Eddie, D. Wynn,  Al Ester. 
Hosts were Dre and Minx.


Man are we chuffed with this. Big thanks to Ian Malbon and Matt MacQueen for 
this.


This is some hot stuff! lots of familiar sounding tunes, plenty of 
familiar tunes which i remember from back in the day, lots of tracks 
oh man this is something which hasn't really happened me for years 
when i've heard something i haven't heard before.




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RE: (313) stupid dumb idiot story

2004-09-08 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Robert Taylor wrote on Wed, 8 Sep 2004 about following:


You might be able to download it for free from their site.


There's plenty of tracks available 
http://irdial.hyperreal.org/mariopaint/ - actually 8, which one is it?


(uh i downloaded all the mp3's that are available on above site.. it's 
just 954mb and i haven't listened to even half of them yet, and they've 
been sitting on my hd for at least 6 months)



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Re: (313) Sampling

2004-09-08 Thread Sakari Karipuro

David Powers wrote on Wed, 8 Sep 2004 about following:

I think that copyright has become a real monster in this country, 
a s every form of fair use and public domain is being demolished. 
It's very disturbing.  I also would say this trend heavily favors corporate 
interests, but I don't think it is really in the interests of


Now the article linked earlier opens doors to claims like i know this 
guy sampled this sound from me and used fx on it - i mean anyone can 
claim that - it doesn't really matter if it's true or not but 
it can be used as a way to just sue anyone in the music business, and 
force them to waste money on stupid lawsuits etc, which would probably 
be the last nail on the coffin of small labels.



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RE: (313) Techno Films

2004-08-16 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Brian 'balistic' Prince wrote on Mon, 16 Aug 2004 about following:


Quoting Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


No black soldiers in Saving Private Ryan either, which is quite shocking


It is accurate, as far as I know.  American combat units had not yet been
integrated.  Black troops were mostly used in the motor pool and engineering
divisions, as well as by the military police.


According to Ambrose, Stephen E. in Citizen Soldiers:

There were no black infantry units in ETO (european theatre of 
operations). There were nine negro field artillery battalions, a few 
anti-aircraft battalions, and a half a dozen tank and tank destroyer 
battalions. Some did well, some average, some were poor.


Also

Patton had not been eager to accept black tankers, because he fancied 
that black men did not have quick enough reflexes to drive tanks in 
battle.


He also writes in the book how nazi POW's in american camps were 
telling they were treated better in the camps than black people in US 
army. (It was common that black people were in guard-duty at POW-camps)



Quite sad in my opinion.

(Also remember that Ambrose was known to be rewriting the history in his 
books a little, so he's not 100% reliable source)



I watched too much History Channel while I was unemployed . . .


i wish i'd see that channel!


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RE: (313) Techno Films

2004-08-16 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 16 Aug 2004 about following:


Das Boot - submarines anyone?


I just recently acquired the original full length tv-series dvd of this 
one, it's A LOT longer than the directors cut(3h36min for directors cut 
and 4h42min for the original tv-series (PAL timings)), but gives a lot 
more depth in to the story and clears out some awkward editing -related 
problems in scenes.



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Re: (313) heart wrenching house

2004-08-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 5 Aug 2004 about following:


looking for some really beautiful house that talks about either loss/real
heartache


http://www.discogs.com/release/230334


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Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)

2004-07-27 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Kent williams wrote on Tue, 27 Jul 2004 about following:


I've never really heard the style described with any precision. Anyone want
to take a crack?


It's sort of slowly building hypnotic style that uses simple vocal 
samples to massive destruction on dancefloor.. photon inc: project blast 
anyone? have a blast, blast, have a blast, blast blast have a blast 
etc etc forever. tracks are long, almost all of them are more than 10 
minutes, some even nearly 15. think of it like continuation of phuture - 
acid trax without the 303 and with more sophisticated production. same 
song structure and everything. tempo was usually around 120-125.



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Re: (313) vocals on PHUTURE's your only friend others

2004-07-25 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Matt Chester wrote on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 about following:

The vocals are Phuture's own as far as I know - first released on 
Trax, '87:


http://www.discogs.com/release/1949

The Hell rip-off one is just a short sample loop of the original.  No
acapella that I'm aware of - can anyone confirm?


There might be acapellas around, copies on tape or something; i'm 
not aware of any release with that acapella. there's some versions 
released that are censored though, this is cocaine has been cut off 
from the beginning of the track. the speech has been sampled quite a 
lot over the years, most notably the this is cocaine speaking -line.


considering how crap sound/mixing the track has, it wouldn't be a big 
deal to 'lift' the vocals off the track and play around with eq's and 
filters a bit and get usable sample that way.


i think it's quite funny that 'your only friend' did get played out a 
lot few  years ago, seemed like everyone had it in their sets, like some 
common deal to bring out some classic track ;)


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Re: (313) discogs.com smoking crack rocks?

2004-07-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Scotto wrote on Tue, 6 Jul 2004 about following:


non-excistant record so i gave up at that point. it just makes me wounder
how many other releases they messed up. maybe that cosmic light force and


i don't have any figures but i think there's plenty of errors, and 
the mods constantly tell to look for more information from the net even 
when pointed out that google or altavista can't find anything when 
searched with record name or label and telling me wrong facts about 
records i own. not forgetting that there's just some mods whote no for 
release when it is representing a genre they don't like.


the problem lies of course in that fact that there simply isn't any one 
person who would know everything about every record ever released, or 
even reasonably sized group of people who would be able to do that; and 
we must remember that the net is full of wrong information otherwise; 
if person x submits a record he has in his hands, with correct information 
and some mod finds a netsite that has some false information regarding 
that record, and the mod doesn't know anything else about that record, 
he is likely to vote no for it, without knowing his information is 
false. then again, the submitters constantly submit wrong information, 
for example records that they don't own but they just copy/paste 
the info from a website. (this is generally not accepted but it isn't 
always obvious).


some of the errors in the db will get corrected over time, some will 
not.


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Re: (313) Detroit classics you never want to hear again in a club

2004-06-29 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Toby Frith wrote on Tue, 29 Jun 2004 about following:

 n.b this is a light-hearted thread - don't take the content within 
seriously


And not being played enough

Firekeeper (IMHO the greatest of all Red Planet records)


I have to agree to certain degree, this is just excellent track, not 
necessarily the greatest of red planet records, but one of the best.


It's funny how firekeeper and jaguar are quite similar releases, for me, 
jaguar is just cheesier version version of firekeeper and both have 
quite similar b-side tracks.


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Re: (313) Nitzer Ebb....eh?

2004-06-22 Thread Sakari Karipuro

lisa wrote on Mon, 21 Jun 2004 about following:

I guess it depends on your experience. If I never hear those two records 
(Headhunter, Join in the Chant) again it will be too soon. Not because they 
suck ('cos they are great tunes) - but they got so, SO overplayed around me. 
Even now I can go to any goth/industrial night in NJ/NYC/Philly and they are 
still playing that stuff. It's not nostalgic - it's annoying!  :o


Well, every generation of club-goers will see this happen; dj's bring 
back big hits from the past and the older crowd will probably think 
'what he's doin, playin these old overplayed hits, duh' and the younger 
generation probably thinks (if they know the track) 'whoah, he's playing 
some classics, COOL'.


I don't go to goth/industrial clubs anymore because they are playing:

1) too much plain rock for my taste
2) too much really cheap trance/hard house
3) too much of that 'future-pop' (or something)
4) they don't play ebm/industrial


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Re: (313) Nitzer Ebb....eh?

2004-06-22 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 22 Jun 2004 about following:


the only way i've been able to get a hold of skinny puppy's track
assimilate.


It might be quite difficult to find on vinyl but the cd's are easily 
available - since even here in Finland you can walk into a record shop 
and you can buy about every one of their albums. And there was couple 
compilations released some years ago, called The Singles Collect and 
B-Sides Collect that compiled most of their major hits in to two 
different cd's, first one including Assimilate.


Funny thing is that today in record shop i was just watching around 
rock+pop vinyl albums while my friend was checking some techno records, 
and there was some Front 242 albums.. (no, they were not second hand)



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Re: (313) Electric as a genre?

2004-06-11 Thread Sakari Karipuro
robin wrote on Fri, 11 Jun 2004 about following:

 So how long as 'Electric' been used a genre name to describe techno/electro?

never heard before but it reminds me of this totally horrible 
euro-trash-pop-dance song by leila k, called 'electric'. 
 
it's even worse than term 'electronica' which covers anything that might 
even remotely have used synths or possibly recorded within 1000km of any 
synthesizer. 


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Re: (313) Jockey Slut goes down

2004-05-31 Thread Sakari Karipuro
David Beattie wrote on Mon, 31 May 2004 about following:

 Techno he said I should check out a label called D and
 that apparently the latest releases are D7  D8. I
 have never heard of them and cant find anything about
 them on discogs - anyone shed any light?

this one?

http://www.discogs.com/label/D-Records
 
somewhat hardish techno, at least the ones i have. (D , D 005, D 
002)


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Re: (313) Jockey Slut goes down

2004-05-31 Thread Sakari Karipuro
David Beattie wrote on Mon, 31 May 2004 about following:

 Thanks Sakke - he did describe it as hard but said it
 still had the funk so I asked if it fell into the Alan
 Oldham, Fannon Flowers, Rob Hood type area and he said
 yes - was he a bit off with that?

not much.. they are a bit harder than hood's productions, no idea about 
his dj-style, but in general d-stuff falls into 135+ category, and some 
are even somewhat industrial - not in cheesy way though. there's some 
minimalistic tribal beats and some harder tracks. i think they are a 
lot different than the general looped-bangers stuff that is around, 
definitely more funk. kind of difficult to describe. 


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Re: (313) Jockey Slut goes down

2004-05-28 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Tom Magic Feet wrote on Fri, 28 May 2004 about following:

 I haven't posted for a while, so it's unfortunate that the first time I do
 post again it is to share bad news: the publishing company behind Jockey
 Slut magazine (and Sleaze, formerly Sleazenation) has gone into liquidation.

oh well.. 

 
 So, what titles are left in the UK now? DJ

Got a flashback from early 90's.. dj mag had this article on every 
number, by James Hamilton.. called BPM. best part of the mag 
definitely, getting to read his descriptions of tracks (topic was 
record reviews  bpm's).. here's some examples:

stuttery trotting 122.6-0bpm..
pattering ambience introed then organ jabbed friskily lurching.. 
hypnotic sinewy burbling
gradually unfurled repetitive then jiggly spurting..
bleebing breezy
galloping jangly
coolly swirled loping
nagged cool garage strider
piano plonked
minimalist starkly jolting
anxious jiggly lurching 
ominously droned acidic blippy bashing
ragga prodded jauntier plopping fluttery light industrial

what a character! sadly he died in mid 90's (can't remember exactly 
when) and i stopped buying dj mag.  


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Re: (313) OT: Items for Sale

2004-05-27 Thread Sakari Karipuro
David Powers wrote on Wed, 26 May 2004 about following:

 And I was a little unsure whether these tracks were actually lost, is 
 that true?

1) he might have forgotten he did the tracks

2) he just told they were lost for the hype

which one? you decide - i have no idea :)

(and does it really matter anymore? i mean, it's not great story 'oops i 
forgot i had made these a while ago! let's release them!' (somehow 
i think this is quite common scenario.. )) - considering made in 95, 
released 1997. i mean, it's not like 'made in 1975, first ever release 
in 1995'.  


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(313) Re: Lost or unreleased

2004-05-27 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 26 May 2004 about following:

 came across some record with a tune - don't recall which or by whom - that
 said unreleased track or unreleased mix

There is one 'unreleased mix' I really would like to get on vinyl. The 
Unreleased Mix of Strings of Life, released only on 
Retro Techno / Detroit Definitive -compilation on Network Records.. It 
is by far the best mix of 'Strings' - beats don't come in until the end 
and the piano loop seems to go on forever.. 
 
 I always found this strange because if it was unreleased, doesn't releasing
 it negate the unreleased part of the title?

I keep thinking it means 'previously unreleased' :)


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RE: (313) Re: Lost or unreleased

2004-05-27 Thread Sakari Karipuro
placid wrote on Thu, 27 May 2004 about following:

 Is that version of strings  not the one on buzz records 3 track ep

oh it was released on buzz too? i stand corrected. 
 

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Re: (313) Strings [was: Lost or unreleased]

2004-05-27 Thread Sakari Karipuro
matt kane's brain wrote on Thu, 27 May 2004 about following:

 At 11:31 PM 5/26/2004, Matt MacQueen wrote:
 I believe there's also the same mix of this titled Strings of the Strings 
 of Life on the Innovator CD that Transmat licenced to Sony Japan put 
 out...   I agree that's an astounding mix of the track, a more ambient 
 ...so to speak.
 
 That's a Carl Craig mix, no? It shows up on a Ken Ishii mix CD as well.

they don't tell on retro/techno who mixed it. nevertheless, i don't 
have the cd here, but i seem to recall the track is like 9 minutes long 
(or so) and the beat comes in around 7 minutes or sumthin. 



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Re: (313) OT: Items for Sale

2004-05-26 Thread Sakari Karipuro
David Powers wrote on Wed, 26 May 2004 about following:

 Could it be Daniel Bell's WORK THE S$%T?  That's a track on Daniel 
 Bell's Lost Traxx ep - the tracks are from 1995 but were found and 
 recently issued on vinyl on the Klang label.

'recently'? i remember buying it in 97.. :)


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Re: (313) New to the list

2004-05-25 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Glenn Thomas wrote on Wed, 26 May 2004 about following:

 Excuse my ignorance, but what is SoulSeek?

it's peer 2 peer network for sharing music, mostly illegally copied.


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RE: (313) Oliver Ho/radio playlist - 15/5/04

2004-05-19 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 19 May 2004 about following:

 Does anyone know anyone else who does this? The only person I could 
 think of is Aphex.

he's been using Roland R-8 a lot in his earlier works.. and i think the 
digeridoo sound on 'digeridoo' is from some roland analogue gear too. 


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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Jason Brunton wrote on Thu, 6 May 2004 about following:

 Juan Atkins playing Gusto- Disco's Revenge and then Todd Terry's 
 -Keep On Jumpin' immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 

Keep on jumpin is excellent track, although played to death - more 
importantly, it's a great cover of musique's track from '79. (and in my 
books, last good release by todd terry)


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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 6 May 2004 about following:

 
 Isn't there a track called 'Jumpin'  a different one called 'Keep On
 Jumpin' ?

'Jumpin' is on Unreleased Project Part 4 and IIRC was the basis of 'keep 
on jumpin'.. can't remember exactly, these are like 9-10 year old 
tracks. It might even be that 'jumpin' is the dub on 'keep on jumpin' 
but since i don't have UP4, i can't verify.
 

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Re: (313) Dj Rels / Techno Maths

2004-04-30 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 30 Apr 2004 about following:

 also just checked a DJ Dez 12 which I think is on Hypnotech? but it has a
 UR logo on?

isn't hypnotech ur's sublabel for hip hop etc?
 

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Re: (313) 313 server acting weird

2004-04-28 Thread Sakari Karipuro
jurren baars wrote on Wed, 28 Apr 2004 about following:

 i'm on 313-digest and the mails i get are getting more and more screwed up. 
 this morning i received the same 313-digest three times [not the first time 
 this has happened either], to read replies to messages i'd never seen. two 
 hours later i get another 313-digest that contains the original messages.

i've been getting some messages twice or so, usually within couple of 
days time-span and i'm subscribing the normal list. it's quite confusing 
sometimes, like there was some wormhole in to the past. 


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Re: (313) transmat repress issues

2004-04-27 Thread Sakari Karipuro
jason kenjar wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 about following:

 problem is that some re-issues are bad pressings. I know k-alexi's and 

i have previous re-press of 'all for lee-sah' and the sound quality is 
horrible, it sounds like it was repressed from totally worn out 12.


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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Peteri, Jochem wrote on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 about following:

 And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby.  It´s the 

then try sampling the 808 kick. you'll find out that 909 kick is 
actually really easy to sample. imo the 909 snare is more difficult 
than the kick. sample of it never sounds like what it should! 

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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Peteri, Jochem wrote on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 about following:

 and the 909 shuffle has bugs, which are great.try recording a groove in 
 q-base, you´ll see em
 tiny irregularities

they probably developed these irregularities to a feature called 'human 
feel' for R-8  R-8MKII ;P (which is great box, but 909/808 sounds are 
weak)
 

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Re: (313) things / BC re-releases

2004-03-19 Thread Sakari Karipuro
David Powers wrote on Thu, 18 Mar 2004 about following:

 I'm sorry, BUT if people are going to keep posting this kind of stuff  
 (JOKES) I'm going to be unsubscribing here soon.  I've been on here 
 about 5 years, but lately it's just too much...  to read all these off 
 topic emails all the time.  

I've been really thinking the same. Just too much uninteresting jokes 
and one-liners. getting boring.. so, ANYONE know 313-related list that 
has some actual information and good discussion? i'd like to subscribe. 

5 years on this list seem to be enough; this used to be a great list 
with great people. i'm gonna wait a few days if anyone responds to my 
leo anibaldi -query and unsubscribe. 



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Re: (313) things / unsubscribe

2004-03-19 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 19 Mar 2004 about following:

thank you :)

 by the way - that took me all of five minutes to find on the internet -
 type in Leo Anibaldi using Google and it comes up

well, of course i tried this method first, but since yesterday google 
gave me few pages of links to sites where i can buy his music i though 
i'd better ask here (and also, i thought, this would generate more on 
topic discussion rather than boring oneliners and jokes)

 

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Re: (313) leo anibaldi

2004-03-19 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Fabrizio Nahum wrote on Fri, 19 Mar 2004 about following:

 he did play some sets here in rome last year with lory d though.
 if you would like more detailed information, like if hes still producing etc
 let me know, i can ask lory. i do know that lory is setting up 3 labels, so
 you never know...we may well see some new leo material.

Good information! indeed, it would be very interesting to know if he's 
still into producing and possibly even going to release some new 
material. I better keep my eyes open!
 

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(313) leo anibaldi

2004-03-18 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Hi

I was wondering what happened to Leo Anibaldi? Seems like he quit the 
music business after Void back in mid-90's. Does anyone know? Was it 
just an alias for someone to create such music or what? 

I remember mentioning Anibaldi here on the list some time ago, but I 
can't remember if it was discussed further. 


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RE: (313) can't wait to get mine

2004-03-04 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Brendan Nelson wrote on Thu, 4 Mar 2004 about following:

 What movie is this promoting? Have they made a film of I Robot or something?

yes

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/
 

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Re: (313) first techno record

2004-03-04 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Mann, Ravinder   [CCS] wrote on Thu, 4 Mar 2004 about following:

 Just out of interestWhat was the first techno record you bought ?

hmm not exactly sure anymore; but these spring into my mind.. Meng 
Syndicate - Sonar System, Altern 8 - The Vertigo ep, Frequency and that 
stuff.. sometime around 91 i think.


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RE: (313) tresor meets apple/Mover - Frontal Frustration

2004-02-16 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Ken Odeluga wrote on Mon, 16 Feb 2004 about following:

 Marc Acardipane is one of my favorite producers of all
 time, but that record was a HUGE disappointment. The Mover is all
 
 OK, I'm less familiar with his work. What would you recommend of his that's
 better than this?

check out his productions under alias Mescalinum United 
especially We have arrived.  and i happen to like Alien Christ of 
Suns and Moons http://www.discogs.com/release/84967

Marc has used zillion aliases, as you can see from the discogs page:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Marc_Acardipane


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RE: (313) LAME - was RE: (313) warprecords

2004-01-15 Thread Sakari Karipuro
robin wrote on Thu, 15 Jan 2004 about following:

 
 http://www.arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/1q00/mp3/mp3-1.html

this article is rather old, just by checking the versions of the 
applications, i'm guessing it was done about 4 years ago, so it's not 
really applicable nowadays.


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RE: (313) LAME - was RE: (313) warprecords

2004-01-15 Thread Sakari Karipuro
robin wrote on Thu, 15 Jan 2004 about following:

 more up to date test (maybe with ogg vorbis included). anyone?

http://www.codecreview.com/
http://www.xciv.org/~meta/audio-shootout/

okay, i'm not gonna post on this thread anymore. it's a promise!

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Re: (313) Visage again again

2004-01-14 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Greg Earle wrote on Wed, 14 Jan 2004 about following:

 Visage tidbits: The album The Anvil (1982) contained Frequency 7 (Dance
 Mix).  Never heard the (Dance Mix) version - is that the one that
 became famous in Detroit?  How different is it than the 7 B-side version?

haven't been following this much but.. the dance mix of frequency 7 is 
on this 12 :

http://www.discogs.com/release/48538
 


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Re: (313) Re: mp3 warprecords - was Re: (313) axis

2004-01-14 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Martin wrote on Wed, 14 Jan 2004 about following:

 Back it up, well LAME is a piece of reversed engineered code that is open
 source 

now, this is completely off-topic and i apologize about taking part on 
this but i feel like saying a word here. 

LAME doesn't contain anything reverse-engineered. It is definitely up 
there with mpeg layer 3 encoders like Audio Active Production studio 
(which, at least few years ago, was the industry standard). 

From the lame web site: 

Following the great history of GNU naming, LAME originally stood for 
LAME Ain't an Mp3 Encoder. LAME started life as a GPL'd patch against 
the dist10 ISO demonstration source, and thus was incapable of 
producing an mp3 stream or even being compiled by itself. But in May 
2000, the last remnants of the ISO source code were replaced, and now 
LAME is the source code for a fully LGPL'd MP3 encoder, with speed and 
quality to rival all commercial competitors.. 

http://lame.sourceforge.net/about.html

back to the beats, 
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Re: (313) Searchable Archives

2004-01-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Dan Sicko wrote on Tue, 6 Jan 2004 about following:


 Of course the issue that raises is exposing everyone's email addresses 
 to spammers.  There's the old name AT service DOT com replacement, 
 but I'm still chewing on that one.

just remove the mail addresses. simple as that.
 
(for future archives, take a look at http://www.mail-archive.com)


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RE: (313) the funky 808 drummer

2003-12-01 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Ralf Gill wrote on Tue, 2 Dec 2003 about following:

 Any one here actually ever programmed a 909 or 808 though?

yeah, i've done it. along with quite a lot of other roland drum 
machines.. not 909 though. 808 is just amazing, one doesn't even get
near the funk you get from the real box compared to sampling it and 
making the grooves with computer. the real one has soul. really.

and the kick drum is just MAD. 


sakke


Re[2]: (313) Legendary artists [was Detroit News story on DEX]

2003-11-14 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Ivars Mednis wrote on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 about following:

  Aren't these Hybrid Legends same guys who made Cari Lekebusch to
  rename his long run and well known (i won't say legendary hahaha)
  label Hybrid Recordings to H Recordings?
 
  I recall there was a talk of some artist(s) called Hybrid threatening
  to sue Cari if he will continue use Hybrid name.

hmmm strange news indeed; this hybrid as band or group or whatever 
you might want to call it - i've never heard of them. legends?? duh. 
maybe they make music thats not interesting from my point of view but if 
they really were big enough to be called legends i probably would have 
heard of them. I assumed Hybrid the Label changed it's name because they 
shut down the old label and started a new one. But then again, i was 
never much into the music released in either label so what do i 
know? :)
 

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Re: (313) house-music forums ?

2003-11-14 Thread Sakari Karipuro
John Sokolowski wrote on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 about following:

 Although you don't recieve e-mails like the 313, I haven't found a better
 board than deephousepage.com:
 http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
 
 There are some real characters on there :)

last time i checked they weren't accepting new members.. has this 
changed? nevertheless, good website. 


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Re: (313) Blaze

2003-11-08 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 4 Nov 2003 about following:

 I was wondering whether any of you can tell me what are the ESSENTIAL 
 tracks released by Blaze.  

among the ones already mentioned, recently released We are one on King 
Street Sounds has been growing up on me lately.. very beautiful track.  

http://www.discogs.com/release/158913


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RE: (313) pressings of Metroplex

2003-10-21 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Matthew Mangold wrote on Tue, 21 Oct 2003 about following:

 I don't believe there are any markings which signify exactly *which run* of
 each title a particular piece of wax is; however, if I'm not mistaken the
 blue center stickers/lables are the more recent runs. If memory serves,
 they've come out: white, black, orange, and blue-- in that order. I could be

i've got some in blue, which are the oldest i have (bought second hand 
ages ago), some orangeish and some black, which are both more recently 
bought, new ones, as well as one white, which is recently bought new 
one as well. 


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Re: (313) GPO Acid House Connection

2003-10-10 Thread Sakari Karipuro
jonathan morse wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

 altered states did 'move your body' and Im pretty sure altern8 had a track
 with a similar vocal bit.

Altern 8 had a track called 'Move my body', and even got Joey Beltram to 
remix it.
 

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Re: FW: (313) GPO Acid House Connection

2003-10-10 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 10 Oct 2003 about following:

 According to the movie 24 Hour Party People Tony Wilson invented Acid
 House
 
 I think I might have missed that bit - either that or maybe you could point
 the bit out you mean? I didn't get that impression.First off, there's a
 disclaimer throughout the film - alot of it is seen through rose tinted
 specs.
 so, I think thats them saying 'we jazzed this story up a little'. They make
 that pretty obvious I thought.

actually they do say that it's fiction, iirc they say it many times. 
(in other words, loosely based on what actually happened)

i thought the movie was great fun, and bought the dvd also. haven't yet 
watched all the extras though.

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Re: (313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Matthew Kane wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

 They always seem to come from Ian Cheshire. I am on digest mode reading on 
 Eudora and/or Pine and I get the same either way.

it's because Ian's mails use UTF-8 as charset and your OS doesn't 
support it.


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RE: (313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
ian cheshire wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

 ahh that it is it..also I was posting from Webmail ealier not Outlook like I
 thanks man for setting us all st8 :)

it could be a problem with mailing-list software also. it's possible
that it could break the mails that have some strange charset when 
compiling the digest.  i'm not too familiar with mailing list software 
so i'm not sure. 

sakke


Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Placid wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

 The big money one you want is fantasy girl. Originally out on SRO records in
 1987.  Appeared on nu relics / house muzik in remixed form about 92/93 then
 on trax re issues  - currently available

killer track indeed. sadly, that fantasy girl repress on trax is really 
low quality; it's taken from worn-out-vinyl (you can hear some original 
snaps  cracks in it) and has very little high frequencies (because of 
that it's easy to identify it's taken from old vinyl since new snaps  
cracks sound clear and the originals sound muddy). nevertheless, it's 
better than nothing. Dream Girl on the other side has a bit better sound 
quality though. 


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Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Mark S. Krüx wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

 Fantasy Girl was also repressed on that Chicago Housing Commission thingy
 this summergood quality too.

thats good news, i didn't find any info on this on discogs (or perhaps i 
was looking for wrong things, who knows) so could you please tell 
me more, so i can ask my local record dealer to find it for me :)


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Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Trevor Wilkes wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

 I got this repress on S12 with Dream Girl on one side and some Robert
 ownes song on the other...good quality pressing. so yeah it can't be that
 hard to find if it's been repressed 2 or 3 times in the last year alone.

yeah, i can see that trax 12 everywhere and i have it, but the sound 
quality on fantasy girl is so crap that it's unplayable :)

and thanks Mark for the info. 


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Re: (313) new tings

2003-10-07 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 7 Oct 2003 about following:

 
 Juans mix of Big Fun - apparently a new mix of big fun from Juan - anyone
 heard it?

i have one mix of big fun by juan atkins; on tenr 240 (1988) - big fun 
club remix 12. it's called juan's magic remix and is quite excellent 
with some not so obvious tricks. (at one point the track sounds like 
the cd was jammed, considering it's 12 it's kinda hilarious). 

from juno: 

INNER CITY: Big Fun (Agoria remix) (PIAS) (MP3) - Vocal/disco/club house
1st 12: Big Fun (Agoria remix, Kenny Hawkes remake, 
Classic Magic Juan mix (remake)) (PIASX 025X) [4.45]




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