Re: (313) blaze

2003-01-11 Thread armin holzgethan
the one i really like is the Klubhead EP with 4 Tha Love Of You, If I Were
Your Man, Brothers  Sisters, Some More, 4 Tha Next Time on it. funky deep
vocal garage house. i saw it at rushhour recently.

the one i don't care at all about is the album on playhouse.

ciao
a



Re: (313) sources for 70s, 80s vinyl?

2002-12-05 Thread armin holzgethan
www.rushhour.nl is a good starting point (before you dive into the world of
specialist rare groove shops). they stock a lot of bootlegs, re-issues etc.
it's in the old world tho
 then there's a net-store somewhere in new jersey called something like
21-century-music which has many many 12 from the 70s  80s incl disco. a few
years ago i bought some rare detroit  chicago stuff there pretty cheap 
without problemz.

armin

Glass City Records schrieb:

 Check out www.33third.com they have a nice selection of old 70 80s 12'' and
 45s.

 Peace

 Ben
 - Original Message -
 From: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:51 PM
 Subject: (313) sources for 70s, 80s vinyl?

  Didn't really have a chance to hit Gramaphone last weekend to check,
 but...
  I've been developing a serious yearning for some pieces of disco vinyl.
 I've
  picked up a fairly decent random assortment at the thrift stores, but now
  I want more.
 
  Is this something that is being bootlegged/repressed?
 
  I think that, for example Anita Ward Ring My Bell is absolutely the jam,
  but the only viny version I have is a 'continuously trainwrecked' KTel
  compilation.
 
  I also really dig the kind of post-'disco sucks' disco -- Evelyn King's
  Get Loose is great, and Patrice Rushen's dancy tracks, particularly
  Haven't You Heard -- she was all about that stiff kick-on-13, snare on
 24
  beat you hear all through the Metro Area stuff...
 
  So suggestions on where to find this stuff appreciated!
 
 



Re: (313) NEW MIX

2002-11-27 Thread armin holzgethan
afaik this is by maw. it definetly came out on strictly rhythm in the early 90s

Langsman, Marc schrieb:

 wow healthy mix dude - jus' enjoying it now :)
 is the third track also on the mayday mix ? is that difficult to get hold of
 ?

 cheers,
 Marc

  -Original Message-
  From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 23 November 2002 18:27
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313)  NEW MIX 
 
 
  For all those @ 313 who have been good to me... (it rhymes)
  another mix for the lads who like to dance.
 
  downloadable MP3:
  http://users.skynet.be/fa327222/mixes/morthenkiang-messenger.MP3
  streaming RAM: http://www.morthenkiang.com/mixes/messenger.ram
 
  morthen kiang :
   apologies to the messenger of mixed feelings (tape side b) 
  recorded somewhere in maldegem ( belgium ) on the 16th of
  november 2002
   tribute to my dancers 
 
  (downloadable mp3 file: 44'52 / 128.0 kbs / 41.00 mb )
  01) royal house - can you party (instrumental dub mix) [
  champion ] (´88)
  02) solar house - every day and night [ large ] (´02)
  03) the untouchables - yeah c´mon [ r  s ] (´91)
  04) the groove essentials - make up your mind [ som
  underground ] (´96)
  05) terra dëva - fresh start (iz house dub) [ om ] (´98)
  06a) mood ii swing - ohh [ groove on ] (´96)
  06b) jackapella (´86)
  07a) basement jaxx - fly life [ altantic jaxx ] (´96)
  07b) phuture - spank spank [ trax ] (´88)
  08) submission - woman beat their men [ velocity ] (´97)
  09) steve poindexter - born to freak [ muzique ] (´89)
  10) the lonely guy - saying all that crap (old school mix) [
  fire  ice ]
  (´96)
  11) white falls [ wf ] (´00)
  12) designer music - good girls [ planet e ] (´95)
  13) aril brikha - groove la´ chord [ fragile ] (´98)
  14) sunkiss - sines [ plastic city ] (´98)
  15) ymc - pheedback [ yoshitoshi ] (´99)
  16) vincent d - locked [ hardgroove ] (´01)
  17) samuel l. session - you make me shiver (samuel ´s shiver
  mix) [ cycle ]
  (´00)
  18) rhythim is rhythim - salsa life [ transmat ] (´90)
  19) disco-tex vol.3 - aquillo [ disco-tex ] (´96)
  20) recyclopedia electronica - reloop earresistible A1 [
  recycled loops ]
  (´00)
 
  the site: http://www.morthenkiang.com
 
 
  Cheers,
  Maarten
 
  PS: All my MP3´s sound muddy and dirty with WinAmp 3.0, how
  come? I didn´t
  have this problem with earlier versions!
 
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  (taken from various mix tapes)
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Re: (313) Who used the 303 first..

2002-11-27 Thread armin holzgethan
Quando Quango's Love Tempo (also on Factory) also uses the 303 in a acid housey
way. but i wouldn't consider it acid.






Re: (313) more bootlegs

2002-11-26 Thread armin holzgethan
 Automan 1 - Laid Back: White Horse (b/w ?)

Automan 2 - nightlife unlimited - peaches  prunes, klein mbo - klein
mbo theme
Automan 3 - ?
Automan 4 - kebekelektrik - war dance, ? - wanna be your lover, klein
mbo - wonderful

 Automan 5 - Charlie: Spacer Woman (b/w ?)

sound  pressing are good


Re: (313) Saunderson - Powerbass

2002-11-10 Thread armin holzgethan
that's Incognito Records. released only as a promo back then as i heard.

pretty rare  still sought after, even if it was rereleased on sonic
groove.

a

Gerald schrieb:

 Just found a white label at a flea market for $3. :D

 Question is... what label was this released on?
 the matrix reads IR-007
 IR doesn't ring a bell at the moment.

 G



(313) ugly edits

2002-10-26 Thread armin holzgethan
what about #4?
coming?
already out?
does anybody know?

armin?



(313) ugly edits

2002-10-26 Thread armin holzgethan
what about #4?
coming?
already out?
does anybody know?

armin?


Re: (313) ben liebrand?

2002-10-21 Thread armin holzgethan
where did you hear the mixes?

Rc schrieb:

...



Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle

2002-10-17 Thread armin holzgethan
i have Techno Primitv by Chris And Cosey. dark, atmospheric, very uk, very
electro  very nice. well produced too. published in 85 i guess. mine is a
megadisc release.

a

got Phreek - I'm A Big Freak (R U 1 2)  Kebekelektrik - War Dance in the mail
today. both blew my away. they even mix perfectly!


Jason Donnelly schrieb:

 Well I managed to track down the 'classic' Throbbing Gristle album '20 Jazz
 Funk Greats' and to be honest, I was SO disappointed with 90% of it, but to
 be fair it must have sounded amazing back in 1979.

 What did impress me was the synth's and sequencer action, from the sleeve
 notes these where down to Chris Carter can anyone point me to more of his
 electronic work?, any recommendations would be most welcome!

 and finally, does anyone have a copy of the Giorgio Moroder seminal
 electronic album 'E=mc2', lots to offer in return. (cdr would be great)

 thanks

 jason



Re: (313) [313] rick wilhite... the godson ii EP

2002-10-12 Thread armin holzgethan
i can't hear no resemblance between the two, not even bits. it is not listed
as a remix on the label, it has no track-name at all. so it is a track of it's
own, i guess. typical deep ron trent stuff, low bass range, organ chords
throughout, femal vocal chants (...eeeh...ooh...eeeh...ooh...) + those smooth
percussions.
but good kiss makes this a good ep, not the ron trent track imo.

ciao
a

Lee Herrington IV schrieb:

   hey folks.  is the ron trent track on the above EP a remix of good kiss
 or a completely original work?

   peace
   lrh



Re: [313] Record shops in Paris london

2002-08-27 Thread armin holzgethan
paris by marie warnery::

Da Groove records shop = house
17, rue de l'Echiquier
75010 Paris Métro:Bonne Nouvelle
tel : 01 48 010 318

Basement Trax = techno, house, db, electro...
22, rue de Hauteville
75010 Paris Métro:Bonne Nouvelle
tel : 01 40 22 05 82

Katapult imports= techno, house, db, electro...
10, rue E.Lockroy
75011 Paris Métro:Parmentier
tel : 01 47 00 33 75

Techno import== techno, house, db, electro, trance, hardcore...
rue des Taillandiers
75011 Paris Métro:Bastille
Lot of records but the guys are simply dreadful and not-friendly!

Fnac ITALIENS
Boulevard des Italiens
75009 Paris Métro:Richelieu-Drouot
Lot of Cds and some vinyls. Ask for Sylvain or Bertrand (the 2 persons
responsible of the e-music department) who are real music-lovers!

-

london by babydiddy:

If you haven't got much time (or if you have lots of time too) you need to
head for Berwick Street (its off Oxford Street Tottenham Court Road tube
station end - come out the tube, walk down Oxford Street about 3-4 minutes
and its on your left).  This is record store central for London:

* Reckless Records (two stores: rock and dance) - secondhand store with shed
loads of great techno gems to be found; check the new-in rack if your short
on time as that's where the best stuff doesn't remain long.  Also pay real
attention to the quality of their vinyl as some of it is scuffed to f***.
If you're after cds don't pay attention to the categories as they just chuck
stuff in wherever they feel.  Oh, and stuff just inside the door is mostly
wack-assed progressive house crap - techno is in the middle on the left.

* Music and Video Exchange - this and two of their other stores (Notting
Hill Gate - Soul and Dance Exchange and Camden) are probably the best
sources for secondhand wax in London; vinyl is always in near mint condition
and if it is a rarity with a lower grade on check it as no one grades
stricter!  Downstairs is vinyl Poundland (same as at the other two stores)
and is well worth an afternoon spent digging for stuff as you find the most
incredible things down there - just remember to check condition including
whether or not warped!

* Selectadisc - easily the cheapest new store in London and racks are packed
full everywhere (and its a big store).  They stock everything heavily so you
may find stuff that has been out of print years there, often at really cheap
prices.

* Ambient Soho/Worm Interface - Not purely ambient and the best source for
anything a little leftfield.  Staff are incredibly friendly too.

* Sister Ray - new stuff again and packed out with lots of techno just
inside the store.  Some high price rarities but if you buy check condition
as I bought a copy of Orbital's Chime there for £30 and the condition was so
bad it was unplayable and ended up an ashtray.

* Some crappy secondhand record store - as described.  Has Daddy Kool's in
the basement if you want to buy reggae, or just hang out and passively
inhale some marijuana fumes.

* A dance music store in a basement that never impressed so I never went
back...

* speed garagey progressive house store -  hang out with pimply youths who
know jack about music and pretend to be DJs all day

Off on side streets you have a small hip hop store with grafitti on it and
some other speed garagey type store.

Two streets further down Oxford Street on the left (can't remember street
name) you have Mr Bongos if you're into hip hop.  Otherwise you can continue
into Soho to buy dildos and leather underwear and visit the strip shows, or
just window shop.

If that doesn't tire you you can try Camden which has another Music and
Video Exchange, Vinyl Addiction, a few decent secondhand stalls on the
various markets and another secondhand place on one of the side streets.
You also have a record fair in the Electric Ballroom every other Saturday
(right next door to the tube).






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Re: [313] mo disco

2002-08-17 Thread armin holzgethan
 t-connection - do what you wanna do (rca)

this was also released in 1991 on the best of the sound of sunshine on hot
records, a 2x12 sunshine records comp.

a




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Re: [313] Ugly Edits?

2002-08-08 Thread armin holzgethan
ugly edits 1 was the peaches  prunes re-edit or wasn't it?

the jill scott remix was not an ugly edit. true?

there was this cd with unreleased theo parrish tracks on it (among them the
jill scott remix and some disco re-edits) floating around some time ago, did
any of these tracks reappeare on one of the ugly edits?

and which other tracks where re-edited for the ugly series?

please do shed some light ..

armin


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Re: [313] it´s not oooooooooveeeeeeer

2002-08-07 Thread armin holzgethan
Revoked - Pieces - Hot Mix 5 HMF 117

try formic

ciao
a

Maarten Baute schrieb:

 no it isn´t...

 so, I got the shep pettibone remix from let no man put asunder on
 ramshorn...
 but this wasn´t the version that Ron Hardy and Derrick May used to play...

 people told me, that it was the frankie knuckles mix that Ron and Derrick
 spun.
 It´s a cut up piece with dirty beats.

 I know it is released on salsoul in 1983.. but can´t find the frankie
 knuckles version...
 or is there another remix of it?

 did the frankie knuckles remix ever appear on a compilation or something?

 baby baby baby baby baby baby baby, ow yeah

 Cheers,
 Maarten

 
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Re: [313] cameo

2002-07-27 Thread armin holzgethan
cameo - money - reprise records 040392 - 1992

tracklisting:
money - reese revamp mix
money - reese hardcore instrumental
money - hardsell mix (by joey beltram)
front street - album version

reese hardcore instrumental = velocity funk. the reese revamp mix has cameo
vocals laid over the instrumental which give it a whole new quality.

ciao
armin


Maarten Baute schrieb:

 Hi,

 is the record cameo - the money released on casablanca records?
 This record was sampled by kevin saunderson for his velocity funk release.

 Cheers,
 Maarten

 
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Re: [313] name that tune / name of that tune

2002-06-19 Thread armin holzgethan
i once read in an interview that clayton fell in love with techno through
phylyps trak 2. so it is some sort of hommage, i guess.

found this in the new hardwax mailout:

Level 1211
 Archetype: Glyph 01 (US 12) @ EUR 12,00   #37766
  (funk flav. perc.  slow upbuildin´techno grooves)

is this also some sort of hommage ? ;)

a

Phonopsia schrieb:

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 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 12:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [313] name that tune

  the one with the chord stab on 2  4 is 100% sure phylyps track II, so
  either you have the wrong idea about which track fades where  ;)  or box
  section samples... i wouldn't know

 After tracking down the Real Audio of Phylyps Track II, it would seem Mr.
 Clayton is guilty of some thievery, or at least a pretty faithful
 reproduction (intentional or otherwise). From the segment played in the mix,
 it could be either track - prolly phylyps... Sorry to confuse. I thought I'd
 been hearing a remix of Box Section when I heard people playing Phylyps.
 Clearly I had the cart in front of the horse.

 Box Section is interesting if nothing else, b/c it opens up quite a bit in
 the latter 1/2 of it. Maybe John should track both down. :)

 Tristan
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Re: [313] Concert last night: ADULT.

2002-06-14 Thread armin holzgethan
subtle irony, i suspect

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 I was there.
 The only thing that stood out to me, is before ADULT. played hand to
 phone Nicola said something like this is an old one from awhile back, a
 few of you might know this one
 Are they so popular now that all their fans are THAT new??
 Dunno just thought that was weird.
 Their set was great though. Magas also rocked. Great schizophrenic dancing,
 that man. : )
 Both of them could have played much longer, imho.
 I am definetly happy I came out, despite rumors that the redwings chaos
 would get in my way.

 :)
 -j


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  cc:
 06/14/02 11:57   Subject: [313] Concert last 
 night: ADULT.
 AM



 Last night, in Saint Andrew's in Detroit, Adult. performed while the
 Redwings took the Cup. The audience was pretty into it, despite all the
 hoopla outside in
 downstairs in the bar.

 Was anyone else there? I am curious to hear your impressions. Sorry if this
 is slightly off-topic.

 Magas played before Adult. Before Magas, this tall skinny guy in a blazer
 spun records. He looked kind of like the late Ian Curtis. I am also curious
 if anyone knows who he is. He played some good stuff, but he wasn't on the
 bill.

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Re: [313] Italo disco top fives anyone?

2002-06-12 Thread armin holzgethan
yeah, if anyone is a connaiseur, let us know

here are some rather obviuos choices. although i live pretty close to
italy, i still have to find a good source for italo disco, to be able to
go through the myriads of mostly _very_ cheesy releases to find the good
ones.

n.o.i.a. - do you wanna dance (sado mix) - zyx
a.robotnick - computer sourir - fuzz dance
scotch - penguin's invasion - zyx / il discotto
gay cat park - i'm a vocoder - romem 2 (bootleg, now available)
the stuff on danica records

some others i've never heard, but which are very sought after by chicago
oldschool heads and played by m.geist, d.wang and t.parrish:

capricorn - i need love
night moves - transdance
pineapples - come on closer


ciao
armin

for those who are interested and not subscribed to kompakt, hardwax,
rushhour etc (who isn't?:) -- peaches  prunes by nightlife unlimited,
the killer track off mustang lt, is now available on bootleg too (don't
know if it is the exactly same edit though).



Güclüer, Hansi schrieb:

 (I need some summer record buying-inspiration)

 Thanks!

 /Hansi

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[313] EXTRA T's - E.T. Boogie (Juan Atkins Mix) - (1999 Regal)

2002-06-06 Thread armin holzgethan
found this on the play-lists of kirk degiorgio's now defunct radio show.

does it really exist? anyone knows anything about it?

a


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[313] psychic tv feat jack the tab - tune in

2002-05-24 Thread armin holzgethan
is this a fred gianelli production?

armin


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[313] psychic tv feat jack the tab - tune in

2002-05-24 Thread armin holzgethan
oops, it should have been _fred giannelli_ of course

sorry

armin

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Re: [313] Track ID

2002-05-23 Thread armin holzgethan
nahh. rise from your grave used it in a clever self-quotation. very very cool
track though nonetheless. my friends laugh at me, but i tend to hear some
proto-basic channel in it.

the trax 142 is available again as a repress as i have seen. larry sherman
never sleeps.

your only friend not only was amongst the first acid tracks but it was the
first in a long series of sarcastic, sometimes cynical comments on club life
(where's your child, rise from your grave, flash, la la land etc), which all
became glorifying hymns of course.

a

W Lammerts schrieb:

 Naaah. Come on people!!

 PHUTURE RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE on RS

 W
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  Sounds like an old Phuture track... Can't recall the name of it. Let me
 see
  if I can find it...
 
  Got it - Your Only Friend
 
  In the end I'll be your only friend.
 
  At 02:44 PM 5/22/2002 -0400, Grammenos, Peter wrote:
 
  Vocals : This is cocaine speaking. I'll take your life from you, your
 car
  from you, your ... etc. 
  
  Mark Flintoft played it last night @ Local 138 and I just heard it again
 on
  a Christian Block mix off of Frequency Detroit.
  
  -Pete
  
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Re: [313] Teste the wipe fred wesley and the j.b.'s

2002-03-18 Thread armin holzgethan
had this once on plus8 and on that pure comp on tb from edinburgh (?)

it's dark druggy acid trance techno which i imagine worked very well around
1994. i never really could relate to it and discovered that it is some sort of
sought after classic only when i sold it on ebay (people mailed me during the
auction and asked how on earth i could sell such a track :)

got me fred wesley  the j.b.'s  'damn right i am somebody' recently and was
blown away by most of the tracks (only 'blow your head' i've heard a bit too
often already). i can see now where some of the rhythms of certain dance mania
tracks come from. 'i'm paying taxes, what am i buying...' has some
proto-techno passages imo  :)  and the spoken word pieces in this track are
very moving. now i ask myself if this is all genuinly original stuff (was this
album a milestone at the time?) or if there exist some other funk bands from
that era (1974) or before that have done records in a similar vein  and the
same spirit (southern spirit?)?

plus anyone got some information on the band 'notorious miami'? google didn't
spit out anything really useful.

ta
armin

hey i also discovered that james brown used to put a small picture of his head
on some of his records, just as moodymann and theo parrish do today



Gwendal Cobert schrieb:

  Very essential piece music in 313 content, a classic track by Richie
  Hawtin and Teste (whoever that is), released on Probe.
  sorry no catalogue number since i only have this track on collection
  album technovision 2, RAID 512, rumour records.

 (from another mail)
  Never heard Teste's The Wipe !!! go to plus8.com and
  listen to Probe
  14 in the new discography section...
  it's a classic for sure.

 It does sound really great ; but I'm curious, how come it didn't make it in
 the Plus8 collection of classics they released last year ?

 And also : under which name was Technovision 2 released ?

 Gwendal

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[313] gherkin jerks

2002-03-18 Thread armin holzgethan
speaking of (early) minimal techno

gherkin jerks - stomp that beat - gherkin records
gherkin jerks - 1990 - gherkin records

have they been repressed?  i seem to remember to have read  something


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 | Who are some of your best list minimal techno djs/producers?
 |
 | Apart from the obvious like Maurizio etc...I find Kit
 | Clayton's work very impressive.

 And then of course there's the even more obvious suspects (Maurizio I
 wouldn't classify as strictly minimalist, tbh) - Dan Bell and Robert Hood.
 Losing Control by DBX (Dan Bell) and Minimal Nation by Robert Hood have
 always been kind of like the Old Testament of minimal techno to me. Other
 producers like Mike Inc (his Studio One series), Memory Foundation, Claude
 Young (Updating the Existing Systems) have made some nice minimal techno
 as well.

 Go to groovetech.com and search under dbx, robert hood, m-plant,
 accelerate - listen to some of the tracks you get back. Is that the sort
 of thing you're after?

 Minimal techno, done well, sometimes sounds to me like purely distilled funk
 - the singular essence, at a purity where even a trace dosage can be
 fatal... :)

 Brendan

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Re: [313] nouveau electro vs. broken beat

2002-03-15 Thread armin holzgethan
outside forces
?

Peter Leidy schrieb:

  i don't understand why all the new-school electro-pop gets so much criticism
  but so much new-school jazz/house/breaks, broken-beat-type stuff passes the
  quality test. i know it all comes down to individual tastes, but it just

 I thought this was because new-school electro pop is crossing over to the
 indie rock crowd- and has all the makings of an indie rock fad, which in
 turn means that the fad will end and people will forget about it.

 While the broken beat movement has enjoyed the same fast growing
 popularity- the audience is still largely withing the techno-house-idm
 camp- so techno headz are not worrying about outside forces controlling
 the fate of this music. the only outside attention seems to be coming from
 rb and jazz audiences, and it seems to be a bit more modest- i.e. - has
 not been turned into a standard formula song structure (at least not as
 much as the timbaland breakbeat formula :), has not suffered as many
 limited-pressing/status-symbol type releases to promote the hierarchic fad
 structure among audiences. Also broken-beat does not suffer the negative
 connotations of retro and nostalgia in the same way that electro does.

 i'm mostly critical of the electro-pop movement because i think there is a
 lot of quality electro/italo that is going to get lost in the sea of
 mediocre electro-pop, and will soon go unappreciated because people will
 be tired of all things electro.

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Re: [313] TECHNO 2: The Next Generation

2002-03-11 Thread armin holzgethan
recently heard a bootleg with rock to the beat without any vocals (except for
some kind of vocal break in the middle) and far more acidic  squelchy than on
the kms release i have. anyone knows this version? where was it originally
released?

ta

Mad'R schrieb:

 I have the clear vinyl with String of Life and Rock to the beat.
 The first strings of life I could get my hands on, back in the mid days

 :-)

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Re: [313] TECHNO 2: The Next Generation

2002-03-11 Thread armin holzgethan
yeah, i heard about the new beat version, but i think the version i meant comes 
from detroit. it sounded like it anyway and kevin saunderson got
credited

thanks anyway

armin

Gerald schrieb:

 Matthew MacQueen wrote:
 
   I remember some New Beat versions were released. Don't remember the
   artists name though. Maybe someone else out there does?
 
  There was a new beat version of Rock to the Beat by 101 that was on some 
  various new beat and early acid housey type comps.  (Subway records?)

 OK i went and dug it out... Rock To The Beat by 101 the US Remix on BE'S
 Songs 1989. There's prolly a few other versions i imagine. It actually
 credits Saunderson-Echols as the writers. Cool!

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[313] ebay spam

2002-03-07 Thread armin holzgethan
some detroit, some others

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=marni.boppinclude=0since=-1sort=2rows=100

saluti

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Re: [313] Derrick May Live at The Music Institute 1988...

2002-02-16 Thread armin holzgethan
french kiss is def pre-90. i bought the album on tape in 88 when i spent a year
in the states. this and the ten city album were the only chicago / detroit
/techno / house things i bought at the time. i still get mad at myself when i
think about it, i even was in chicago. now i have to hunt for all the stuff. oh
well ...

i can perfectly understand that french kiss gets on your nerves, it did with me
too, it's too obvious in a way. although since i have it on vinyl and listen to
it more closely i rediscovered it. it has some nice and subtle production, the
strings are alive for example. i wished there was some kind of a dub version.

armin

Phonopsia schrieb:

 Is it me, or does this seem like it's post-'88? I could've sworn the BFC
 track at around 3:30 was from around '90, and I thought French Kiss was
 released at some time in the 90s, although a kindly list friend told me it
 was from some point in '89. So acetates not withstanding, does anyone else
 hear any musical cues that would make them think the date might be a bit
 early?

 Did anyone else have a bit of a chuckle when they heard him go completely
 nuts with French Kiss twice? Personally, I'd hat it with that song a long,
 long time ago, and it's always been a signature track to drop for Derrick
 May (from every set I've heard). So while I'd always taken that as a low
 point in Derrick May's sets, I can now be appreciative that he no longer
 plays it twice. :) Please no French Kiss flames. I understand it's a crucial
 song in house history - I just got sick of it about 5 years ago and it's
 never gone away.

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Re: [313] trainspotters...get ready...get set...GO!!!

2002-02-14 Thread armin holzgethan
i got dox003, yellow label, black vinyl,  hard monotone acid. that's all i
know. do you want it?

Trevor Wilkes schrieb:

 Not sure on artist or title, but I can tell you that the label is PULSAR the
 DOX002 would be their cat#. It's an amercian label, and I don't know that
 release but I think most or all of the PULSARs were like hard acid.

 Trevor Wilkes
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  hi list-
 
  i recently purchased a record that is something i really like.  it is on
 green vinyl with a blue label.  the label has a black frequency wavelength
 across it.  the run-off groove is engraved with DOX002-A Real Beat
 Music-BMI 1994  i know that someone out there knows what record this is.
 the first person to respond wins their trainspotter gold star!!!
 
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Re: [313] Black techno artists]

2002-02-10 Thread armin holzgethan


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 Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:48 AM
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  Eddie Flashin' Fowlkes (or is it Old Skool now) - he was there along
  with the other magnificent three but never got the recognition.
  Alan Oldham - not only is he a great music producer but without him
  DJAX-UP-BEATS would not be the same. Has never made enough comic books.

 Word!!! I've been thinking that for some time now.

 How about Butch Strange? Saw him at the Motor 5 year anniversay party and he
 ripped it up!

 I guess DEMF2 counts as recognition, but what about Keith Worthy? He had a
 great set, and I never hear about him here.

 In the broader sense, how about Ron Trent, Chez Damier, Alton Miller, Marc
 Kinchen, TP, Mike Clark and others who helped make the house scene in
 Detroit early on, but have never really been recognized outside of Detroit
 for their contributions to the entire history of house (at least relative to
 those from Chicago and New York). It's obvious that the more recent Detroit
 house artists like Theo Parrish don't get their just due, but what about
 these guys that have been prominent for a while but don't get the
 recognition they deserve globally?

 Tristan
 --

i still don't get it.

what are you aiming at? how  where should this recognition express itself? on
mtv, usa today? how many people know stephen king? and how many know malcolm
lowry?

all those you mention are more or less known to people into this music. some
will reach a certain status as innovators, some will be forgotten. some will
blow up by accident because the time is right and/or because they work towards
it. maybe this has sometimes to do with the quality and the aim of their work
too? to blame it all on the circumstances seems to me as banal as the opposite,
which is to blame it all on the lack of marketing skills.
tp has a relatively huge fanbase in germany because of his djing. all of his
records i know of are mediocre. alan oldham's stuff lacks originality big time.
just to be a detroiter and having started in 1988 is not enough.

theo parrish  moodymann are in the game since what, 5 years? and they are
veritable stars in their circles already. but they don't produce music that can
be played in a handy-dandy friday night house-set, which is a precondition for
global recognition.

i think one has to refrain from taking popmusic as a reference, because it is
subjected to mechanisms that lie beyond the music. one has to play to these
rules if one wants to be constantly successful. one has to adapt and deny
oneself constantly. success is the only criteria for the value of this type of
shit.

self-esteem is not supposed to grow because of one's name in the paper or a
certain number on one's bank statement, but because one feels that he/she is
doing the right thing and maybe because one lifts the artform to new heights.
the name all over the paper and the big bucks in the bank are most of the time
 and as long as this capitalist etc society stands a sign that one submitted 
adapted oneself successfully to the expectations of society. same as good marks
at school. same as any institutional or mainstream recognition. in this sense
most of the time mainstream success can be used as a sign for irrelevance.

despite the subject of this so far lame thread i'm not touching concrete
exploitation  repression of black people in the usa. i'm not very familiar
with the details. black history month seems a cynical joke to me though.

basta!

armin


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Re: [313] I'm so impressed

2002-02-09 Thread armin holzgethan
selling?

economical success or even success alone as a criteria for genius? or maybe
for the music itself?

what are we here on a marketing list?

and i'm not advertising bohemian slack or condoning rip-offs, mind you. the
music _has_ to be distributed, made known  available and the producers have to
get their share of money and recognition. but to compare it with trance which
is made solely to please the expectations of a certain mass-audience doesn't
get us any further. same goes for the comparison of all techno producers with
one of the two at least popularitywise outstanding figures in this genre.
democratic success wouldn't be success anymore. if you wanna be a popstar and
make amounts of money out of any proportion techno is simply not the right
choice.

to habitually slag off trance or whatever is pretty useless too. let's just
forget it  move on.

armin

glyph1001 schrieb:

 Hehehe, this is interesting...don't barf because these trance guys are
 out here selling their music
 to its highest potential.  Are many current and burgeoning techno
 artists doing that?  Nooo.
 And the sad thing is that we DON'T have to jeopardize anything to do it.
  It can still be techno.
 Richie is proof of that.  I don't care what anyone says but that man is
 a genius.  =)

 g.

 If you ain't feelin' it, this ain't for you!  --Steve Harvey  (Kings
 of Comedy)

 Vince Woolums wrote:

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 NEW ORDER/PAPERCLIP PEOPLE
 BLUE MONDAY/THROW 2002 (PROMO) 12
 Slammin' new tech trance remix of this classic from New Order done by ROB
 SEARLE, the man behind the many Frankie Goes to Hollywood trance remixes.
 This one sticks fairly close to the original with the original elements all
 there, except the beats are jacked up considerably- with a very dramatic
 breakdown with the lead hook melody in the strings, rising up and causing
 some serious club mayhem in a Lange style.  The flipside may be even more
 interesting for some people- it's a reworking of the PAPERCLIP PEOPLE track
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Re: [313] rick wilhite

2002-02-06 Thread armin holzgethan
hey that was me! : )

'good kiss' on 3 chairs 2 or on kdj 22 (forget the ron trent mix, the mm mix is 
ok) is my ffavoured.

'the godson' kdj 11 isn't much

still waiting to hear 'what do you see' on kdj or filth

armin


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 Have got the first 3 chairs records (as it was recently repressed - bad
 luck to that man who paid £45 for it on ebay), and for my money Rick
 Wilhite is the star of the show. He seems to be able to nonchalantly weave
 together juxtaposing samples perfectly. What else is recommended by him?

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Re: [313] am I the only reese?

2002-01-27 Thread armin holzgethan
a bit of redundancy here but it's sunday night:

sure, some virgo tracks have proto reese basslines too, but nobody focused so
strongly on them as saunderson and introduced them into techno. anyway he did
them, only others, later refered to them as such.

there is not one beginning, there's innumerable. maybe beginning is even the
wrong word, maybe to pick up and reaccentuate is better. or to beget a
monstrous child by fucking the influences in the ass (merci for this wonderful
quotation to who it is due)

but i think one can hardly deny that at least any electronic dance music
(genre) with straight beats after 1988 was directly and primarily influenced by
chicago. and detroit. with maybe new york and new beat as the required
exceptions to the rule. and with italo disco as the obscure precursor.

you can either hear that or the people in question will tell you. the mover for
example or atom heart or mike ink or aphex twin etc etc. people who may be
doing totally different stuff today, who brought other influences with them and
some of which may even have found their own originality. there's a track with a
mr.oizo bassline on the other people place lp. it's the weakest track though :
)

of course and sadly and luckily the knowledge of this history gets widely lost
with the time even for people who become active in this field. that's the way
with not institutionalised knowledge i think, it becomes esoteric and hidden.

armin

heard larkin's clavia nord and the quadrant ep on rs both for the unbelievable
first time today and i want them badly now. i could offer larkin's plus8002 and
carl craig's lite music on rs for trade. or some other stuff, mail me.


Mad'R schrieb:

 well for your information
 there was something called a reece bassline in the Uk
 (i'm not gone try to explain it because it's a little bit technically)

 But as far as I know the idea of the KMS layered typ of sound
 sounds a lot like Distant Planet from Mr Fingers to me

 But this will off course ruins your brekfest ;-)

 Mad'R
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  If you care that much, read some old Simon Reynold's articles.
 
  Really, the Reese bassline comes from KMS.
 
  Acid House+Detroit+Hip-Hop+England in 1990=Hardcore
 
  Harcore+1993=Jungle
 
  DetroitJungle
 
  None of this is music, Every last one of you are Little Richard's
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  And we were doing so good with music content this week.
 
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Re: [313] jeff mills stars again

2002-01-27 Thread armin holzgethan


 pure arrogance (again)



it's seems more a kind of childish offendednes on your part to me.

mills has to repay me? i'm not even sure if i have to repay him. all
this repaying business seems very odd to me.

now don't take this too seriously and do still send me the records i
ordered from you : )

armin


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Re: [313] this has become the theme song...

2002-01-21 Thread armin holzgethan
Kenny Larkin - We Shall Overcome (Ken's Mix // Richie's Loonie Mix // J.
Acq Shall Overdub), Rubbernotes (Strech Mix // 5th Gear Edit) - PLUS8002

: )

armin




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Re: [313] UR question

2002-01-15 Thread armin holzgethan
should be Rings Of Saturn
i just love the way the story is told like a fairy tale
it's cut like saturn with it's rings : )

armin

Bill VanLoo schrieb:

 Hi -

 A friend of mine had the following question for me, which I don't know the
 answer to:

  techno question: do you know which UR/X-102 record it is that has the
  sample of the guy talking about the big bang, that starts off: four
  and one-half billion years ago, the planets were formed in a great
  cloud of swirling gas and dust alan oldham/t-1000 used to play it
  on wdet, but i don't know the name of it... ?

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Re: [313] drexciya LP

2002-01-11 Thread armin holzgethan


 I haven't heard the previous two albums but has anyone got a review on them?
 You know the two I mean: Tranllusion album on Supremat and the one on Warp,
 don't know it's title.

 Scott


i got me the The Other People Place on Warp after some hesitation and
now i'm
glad i did.
it's very moody, if not melancholic,  deep with polished sounds, no harsh
sounds or raw drexciyan funk here. all tracks are very tracky and repetitive,
always rather laid back, never aggressive, setting a mood rather than
telling a
story. but they never get boring, some catchy vocal samples and small breaks
keep them alive. a very economical approach. almost all used elements  sounds
are widely known and not original, yet the tracks themselfs sound
totally new
to me. i like to play them with older more minimal larry heard stuff (on
Gherkin for example, or Big Bang Theory).
the transllusion stuff is similar afaik, maybe with slightly more electro
aggressiveness.
welcome to the digital age (at last).

armin

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[313] mox bender? ur?

2002-01-10 Thread armin holzgethan
is there a ur dj named mox bender?

he's announced for next thursday here in vienna.

armin


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Re: [313] domu+archive+neroli+ericfiedel

2002-01-07 Thread armin holzgethan
has neroli #2 already been released?

anyone heard the new eric and/or fiedel? comments?

armin



Rob Theakston schrieb:

 just got done about an hour ago popping in domu's up and down CD on
 archiveright after listening to McCoy Tyner's classic Message From the
 Nileprops to Domu and Archive for putting out another stellar slice of
 downtempo worthy of late night/early morning listening. may this be a sign
 of amazing things to come in 2002! also if you haven't heard it yetcheck
 anything you see on the sister label neroli. i've only been able to find the
 first sampler over here...but it's quality stuff!

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Re: [313] Larry Levan

2002-01-03 Thread armin holzgethan
if you mean Larry Levan's Paradise Garage on Salsoul, just take it. not one
track of it appears on the West End release.
Handsome Man, First Time Around  How High are my favourites.

armin



Maarten Baute schrieb:

 Dear 313ers,

 I have the chance of buying larry levan - paradise garage on sal soul
 records. I just wanted to know: are there any differences with the equally
 named release on west end recordings ?

 Artiste include:
 First choice, Jocelyn Brown, Sparkle, Inner life, etc...

 Thanks!
 Maarten

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Re: [313] agents of change?

2001-11-27 Thread armin holzgethan
what's all this narcissistic squabble over the audience?
discuss the music!
or is there nothing to discuss about it anymore?
well, then...


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Re: [313] Santonio Echols was [RE: [313] Speaking of Jeff van dyke...]

2001-11-26 Thread armin holzgethan
afaik it was kevin saunderson  lisa m released on kms. my copy should have a 
mike
hitman wilson and i think 2 morales mixes on it. the short original version is
the best.

which are good santonio tracks? i heard some on tresor and cyren and they didn't
convince me. the stuff on kms with k.saunderson i find original, if very raw.

armin

dang schrieb:

 this track was produced with Santonio wasn't it and i just wondering if he's
 been releasing much of late? the last thing i recall hearing from Santonio was
 a track on the True People compilation from a few years back...

 sorry if this has been covered before, i've been away for too long!

 Cheers
 dang

 Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  oh yea he played tons of great track including sharivari and an old acid
  house tune which says rock to the beat (who does that track?).
 
i'm guessing it's an old tune by Kevin saunderson under the alias 
  Reese.
called rock to the beat
 
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Re: [313] label question

2001-11-23 Thread armin holzgethan
it was released as a 12 on hotmix 5 together with »string free« and also on
the hotmix 5 »acid« compilation. the latter is still available (hardwax.de /
formic.de) and contains the shortest, tightest and best version of »can you
feel the bass«. and a bunch of other fine tracks too.

armin

my girlfriend thinks that »miura« on metro area 4 sounds like a dub version of
a vocal track. i wouldn't have thought of it but it's true.

Pulverizer schrieb:

 hi there,,
 can anyone tell me please where phortunes can you feel the bass originally
 got released?
 i know there was a re-release on hells x-mix, but im looking for the
 original..
 thank you ,,
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Re: [313]Kevin Saunderson mix of Octave One's Blackwater

2001-11-10 Thread armin holzgethan
Octave One / Blackwater : Saunderson RMX
(new Kevin Saunderson detroit techno mixes for those into his pattoned
Lighthouse family sound)
 Concept12   $9.99

...this is what the sonic groovers have to say about it. i didn't get it (could
maybe someone briefly explain his pattoned Lighthouse family sound?!) but it
doesn't sound too nice to me (the review).

armin

James Bucknell schrieb:

 came out this week. anybody heard it?
 i wasn't that taken by it. but i'm reserving judgment till i hear it at 4am 
 on a
 decent soundsystem.
 james
 www.jbucknell.com

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Re: [313] Re: MMM

2001-11-06 Thread armin holzgethan
there's also a hard, experimental  rather industrial electro release by mmm. i
think it was their first one.
one of the errorsmith tracks is on herbert's mistakes mix-cd as i've been told.

all their releases should still be available at hardwax.

armin

i'm still hoping for a night where i can play that jb cut-up track off the
donna ep without killing the party

Simon Walley schrieb:

 One particularly top moment
 was from Keith Tenniswood, when he played Donna on MMM - it's a cracker
 of
 a tune, from a long time back judging by the Fat Cat price sticker on mine.
 Any other info on these folk? My copy is stamped with too much ink, but
 there's not much to go on apart from it being a German email address.

 I don't know much but AFAIK they're the same guys (guy?) behind the two
 Soundhack 12s and also the Soundstream EP. I think they've also done
 something under the Errorsmith name but I might well be wrong.

 The Soundhack 12s are great - the only kind of minimal house I really dig
 cos its still got that jackin' cut-up feel to it.

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Re: [313] Record shops in Paris (OT)

2001-10-23 Thread armin holzgethan
courtesy of this list:

Betreff:
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Hello!

Check:
Da Groove records shop = house
17, rue de l'Echiquier
75010 Paris Métro:Bonne Nouvelle
tel : 01 48 010 318

Basement Trax = techno, house, db, electro...
22, rue de Hauteville
75010 Paris Métro:Bonne Nouvelle
tel : 01 40 22 05 82

Katapult imports= techno, house, db, electro...
10, rue E.Lockroy
75011 Paris Métro:Parmentier
tel : 01 47 00 33 75

Techno import== techno, house, db, electro, trance, hardcore...
rue des Taillandiers
75011 Paris Métro:Bastille
Lot of records but the guys are simply dreadful and not-friendly! [and the
records are not sorted at all, i've never seen something like this before]

Fnac ITALIENS
Boulevard des Italiens
75009 Paris Métro:Richelieu-Drouot
Lot of Cds and some vinyls. Ask for Sylvain or Bertrand (the 2 persons
responsible of the e-music department) who are real music-lovers!

Peace,

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Re: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread armin holzgethan
my khan recommendations:

orgien I-IV (no label, distributed through temple i think) dark sinister bassy
monotone ambient, instead of whales singing you get hunks moaning in the
background, some sampled 70s gay-porn-sleaze-funk, and the pet shop boys.

super 8 (khan's now defunked (?) label) release #3 (with white  purple label)
long dubby analogue tracks between house and techno.

silver satellites 2x7 on eat raw, trashy acid electro-pop tracks

armin

np: n.o.i.a. - stranger in a strange land


Elliot Taub schrieb:

 Alright, since I work for Temple Records, Khan's old record store here in
 NYC, I should set the record straight somewhat.



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[313] mk on strictly rhythm

2001-10-17 Thread armin holzgethan
under which alias did marc kinchen do his release on strictly?
opinions on the tracks?
thanks

armin


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[313] terrEnce parker

2001-10-16 Thread armin holzgethan
and terrEnce dixon too


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Re: [313] Fragile 02 Track Listing

2001-10-09 Thread armin holzgethan
Fragile FRG2 - BFC

1A - Static Friendly
2A - It's A Shame
1B - Evolution
2B - Galaxy

Produced  Remixed by Carl Craig
45rpm
Released: ?
Should still be available in the shops  should be bought on sight.

It's a Shame and Galaxy were also released on the Psyche/BFC - Elements
1989-1990 2x12 on Planet E afaik.

good morning
armin



Lee Herrington schrieb:

   Hello folks.  Could someone give me some info on this B.F.C. release on
 Fragile? Track listing, opions.
   Thank you.

   -save the vinyl-

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Re: [313] Fragile 02 Track Listing

2001-10-09 Thread armin holzgethan
Fragile FRG2 - BFC

1A - Static Friendly
2A - It's A Shame
1B - Evolution
2B - Galaxy

Produced  Remixed by Carl Craig
45rpm
Released: ?
Should still be available in the shops  should be bought on sight.

It's a Shame and Galaxy were also released on the Psyche/BFC - Elements
1989-1990 2x12 on Planet E afaik.

good morning
armin



Lee Herrington schrieb:

   Hello folks.  Could someone give me some info on this B.F.C. release on
 Fragile? Track listing, opions.
   Thank you.

   -save the vinyl-

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[313] lake shore drive

2001-10-06 Thread armin holzgethan
please someone enlighten me: is theo parrish his lake shore drive on
the original kdj 5 the same track as the lake shore drive released on
elevate and sound signature? i recently found a copy of kdj 5 and the
mentioned track is a different one than the one on the releases on dan
bell's or theo parrish his own label. now i have the slight suspicion
that i stumpled upon a revised rerelease - not that unusual for kdj
rereleases as i gathered.
thanks
armin



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[313] lake shore drive

2001-10-06 Thread armin holzgethan
please someone enlighten me: is theo parrish his lake shore drive on
the original kdj 5 the same track as the lake shore drive released on
elevate and sound signature? i recently found a copy of kdj 5 and the
mentioned track is a different one than the one on the releases on dan
bell's or theo parrish his own label. now i have the slight suspicion
that i stumpled upon a revised rerelease - not that unusual for kdj
rereleases as i gathered.
thanks
armin



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Re: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?

2001-10-05 Thread armin holzgethan
3 years ago at ultraschall in munich he was rocking 2 MPCs.
actually i made the trip from vienna for dan bell, who disappointed with a
blandly straight the advent etc set. no button down there.
rrr and brinkmann were cool.
armin

Grammenos, Peter schrieb:

 Do you have a URL for that? When I saw him live he definitely wasn't using a
 computer, now i know why ;)

 I took some Richie Hawtin pictures from the WTC benefit @ Guernica, just
 decks, if anyone is interested - http://www.pgeb.com/hawtin/

 -Pete

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Re: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?

2001-10-05 Thread armin holzgethan
3 years ago at ultraschall in munich he was rocking 2 MPCs.
actually i made the trip from vienna for dan bell, who disappointed with a
blandly straight the advent etc set. no button down there.
rrr and brinkmann were cool.
armin

Grammenos, Peter schrieb:

 Do you have a URL for that? When I saw him live he definitely wasn't using a
 computer, now i know why ;)

 I took some Richie Hawtin pictures from the WTC benefit @ Guernica, just
 decks, if anyone is interested - http://www.pgeb.com/hawtin/

 -Pete

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RE: [313] madonna

2001-08-29 Thread armin holzgethan
it made me laugh when i first read it so here it is:

i'm trying to put the soul that's missing into electronic music
madonna


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[313] quark records movin' records discographies?

2001-08-22 Thread armin holzgethan
i recently came upon phase 2's mystery wich i like a lot.
now i'm looking for discographies of quark records and movin' records.
can anyone (on this best house list around;) help me out?
thanks
armin


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[313] sterling void

2001-08-17 Thread armin holzgethan
sterling void - it's allright - dj international 902 has the acapella on
it.

but where do i find chip e's it's house?


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Re: [313] broken records

2001-08-13 Thread armin holzgethan
it's the coloured vinyl which is brittle as porcelain. it also get's
noisy faster and esp on white vinyl it's almost impossible to find the
tracks. forget coloured vinyl.
on the other hand i saw scans of a transparent marbled lightblue copy of
phuture's your only friend recently (now that's an oxymoron!) and it
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[313] transmat first, second, third pressing??

2001-08-11 Thread armin holzgethan
hi there

could someone please outline the differences in the the artwork of the
different pressings, especially of the first two?
i know the last pressing has black labels etc.
and what about fragile? two pressings?

thanks
armin

recent buys, finds, discoveries...

rodney baker - i want to hold you - rockin' house
discoish vocal house, not far off from ten city . uplifting and
melancholic at the same time, love it.

model 500 - apollo records
'mind changes' is an updated version of the cybotron sound, deep
mysterious voices over crawling basslines. 'vessels in destress' is
italo from detroit.

gwendolin - come to me - precision
the farley mix must be one of chicago's all time best

theo parrish - i can take it
grooves like no other

unit moebius - bunker 003
lovely naif chicago retro tracks from 1993
(i'd trade bunker 006  007 for some other early bunkers from 001 to
010, just mail me...)

... still waiting for the newworldaquarium lp and the new mos on
rushhour.



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RE: [313] Re: Cybotron by Dillinja

2001-05-31 Thread armin holzgethan
Wasn't Madonna the name of the mother of Jesus?  Was that
the first use?
If that's the case then Maria Luise Cicciona has no claim on it.

armin


Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:13:11 +0200
To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org
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Subject: RE: [313] Re: Cybotron by Dillinja
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Wasn't Cybotron the name of the planet the Transformers were from?  Was
that
the first use?
If that's the case then Juan has no claim on it.

jamil

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Subject: [313] Re: Cybotron by Dillinja

What do people think about this?

http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/dillinja/default.htm

Dillinja's latest entitled 'Cybotron'.  It's not as if he is paying
homage
to the group or anything.  What if I was to call my latest Reprazent?

Interested on your thoughts..

r./

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Re: [313] 313 stand on..../dave clarke/vogel/jamie lidell

2001-05-07 Thread armin holzgethan
speaking of jamie lidell, his freaking the frame ep on mosquito is one
of my all time favourites. to call it freaky is like calling the h-bomb
dangerous.
don't know if it's techno though ; )

while i'm at it, here's my current all time 10:

paris mittchel - funk electric - dance mania
lil louis - seven days - dance mania
theo parrish - dance of the drunken drums and dan ryan and lights down
low and and and ...
the it - donnie (dub) - dj int.
basic channel - q 1.1 - bc
quadrant 6 - body mechanic
m:i:5 - autogen 10 - profan
nude photo
dbx - bleeb
infinity - sunlight
eddy grant - time warp
...shit, it's hard to stop. stop.

anyone else?




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record stores in paris?

2001-04-01 Thread armin holzgethan
hi

i'm visiting paris for a few days next week and i need some advice on
good record stores there. ideally with a large backstock section, as i'm
still looking for some stuff i missed the first time around, but any
suggestion is more than welcome.

merci et salut
armin



theo parrish booking

2001-03-29 Thread armin holzgethan
try this

http://www.mir-media.com/theoparrish.html



RE: mixing problems

2001-03-25 Thread armin holzgethan
just do the beat-matching with that part of the track that has beasts,
then go back to the intro and drop it at the right moment ... most
intros start on the first beat of bar 1 ... then make adjustments by
listening to the overall rhytmic feel...if there's no explicit rhytmic
element you'll have to work with the strings, pads etc (they're all
rhytmic too) to marry the two tracks ... knowing your tracks helps.
... that's if you really want to mix the intro. personally i'd skip it.

armin

shook my booty to big daddy rick (wade) last night ... hardcore / marble
floor ... yeah!





future sound rec

2001-03-06 Thread armin holzgethan
hi
could someone please provide me with the tracklisting of that future
sound comp released on rephlex some years ago.
thanks
armin





chez question

2001-02-12 Thread armin holzgethan
was just a matter of time by chez damier which i have on the techno-1
comp (kms 18) ever released on 12  - like all other tracks on that comp
have been?

thanks
armin

i'm also still looking for a danica discography...anyone?







mailorder house?

2001-02-03 Thread armin holzgethan
can anyone give me recommendations for a reliable and well stocked house
store that does mailorder?

possibly on this side of the atlantic?

i know rushhour is pretty good, but nonetheless.

thanks

could this richie hawtin fog horn be the classic chicago passing horn,
the one you can hear on various tracks and at the beginning of a theo
parrish mix tape? and where comes that from?

whoever responds blahblahblah to a (rather intelligent btw) statement
on a mailinglist  makes me laugh.





methods of movement 2000

2001-01-06 Thread armin holzgethan
i thought i had the track listing saved somewhere.

can someone help me out please.

tx
armin



Re: [313] Li'l Louis' White Falls or Why'd U Fall

2000-12-22 Thread armin holzgethan
thanks jonny (for the right spelling too :),

now that i know that i own the whole I Called You ep on bootlegs i strongly
doubt that White Falls is just a bootleg of Why 'd U Fall. sounds more like a
remix to me, 'cause the other 4 (3) tracks are much rawer.

a

Jonny McIntosh:

 I forgot to mention that the tracks on I Called U (Epic release) are:

 The Conversation
 But U Went To The Party
 The Series Continues
 A Series Of Events
 Why'd U Fall

 They are all a variation on the theme of a zombie girl who's stalking L'il
 Louis. Sorry for not sending this with the previous mail!

 Jonny.



RE: [313] Bass booty ?

2000-12-21 Thread armin holzgethan
all erik travis on  either f.a.c.t. or bmc records. very cool stuff.
some of it goes back to 1997, why haven't i heard before of this guy?

a

lil'louis whitefalls, where was this published first? other trax on that
ep? tx





Mark Kinchen

2000-11-10 Thread armin holzgethan
II really need a discography of MK. And maybe some suggestions...
If the other stuff he's done is nearly as good as his dub of Can You
Feel It on KMS I can't wait to hear it.
Does he still produce?

Any information would be nice.

a



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2000-11-05 Thread armin holzgethan
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Re: [313] Maurizio goes to the dogs!!!

2000-11-01 Thread armin holzgethan
he did some pounding for yello too

a

anyone knows what's up with watts vinyl seeker's bbs?



D. May in Vienna?

2000-10-26 Thread armin holzgethan
Derrick May is supposed to spin in Vienna on Tuesday, 10.31. together
with Baby Ford. Now thats a Treat!

But since, as i gathered from the experiences by some of you on the
list,  you almost could make it D. Mai regarding his actual appearance,
maybe someone can indicate me a way of getting this confirmed.

thanks
armin





RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music

2000-10-05 Thread armin holzgethan
spiral tribe had some cool female djs (ixi...) that introduced me to
techno in 93.

in the first couple of years, and 93 may already be late, the
techno/rave scene in europe was also carried by the idea of a certain
asexuality and the dissolvement of gender stereotypes... induced maybe
partly by the massive use of lsd/ecstasy and the deterritorialized
situation of the scene. havent seen many female djs back then either
though.

the equation hard(techno)=macho is based on the traditional male view of
the woman

...i miei 2 centesimi

armin

np - khan - orgien





Some vinyl on ebay, mostly detroit(ish)

2000-10-04 Thread armin holzgethan

unpaid advertisment

If youre interested in stuff on 100%Pure, ART, B12, Eevolute, Peacefrog,
Djax, Profan, Saber, Sähkö, Plus8 ... and by 69, K.Larkin, Soul Oddity,
M.Broom, Spacetime Continuum ...  then you might want to check under the
user-id marni.bopp.

Thanks for your attention
armin


... i keep on hearing wicked things about the rushing techno scene in
eastern germany. camp or trash?

np - Strong Souls - Do It



Re: [313] online record finders

2000-08-23 Thread armin holzgethan
rockhouse (sic) = sonicgroove = timewaste

(ie all sought after stuff listed is on backorder)

well, not allall of it, at least i got my th parrish on filth :)

armin

np: newworldaquarium - straight outta compton





Re: Andres Double

2000-07-07 Thread armin holzgethan
havent heard stranger tracks in a long time, he manages to make them
sound warm and soulful and spooky and surreal at the same time; i also
really like the kind of empty feel of it, it reminds me of the last
metro area... very-late-night-music.

overall his last ep on kdj sounded more elaborated, this one seems more
sketchy to me, still love it though.

my problem with such tracks, as with those of th parrish, is that the
reasons why i love them, namely their distinct feel and atmosfear, make
them so difficult for me to mix. theres always going to be a break which
you have to stage(?) really well...
every once in a while when i do a mix with my friends force tracks,
classic, some perlon and playhouse etc i feel like i could do it without
hands and brains ;-)

one more thing: im desperately looking for that 3chairs double (3ch-I),
small blck church  (kdj5) and what do you see (kdj8).
anyone knows where i could get them or is willing to sell/exchange?
among others i could offer 3chairs-II, the godson II (kdj22) and imo a
real gem, urban tribe d-2000 (mowax94)

armin






Re: Zägezahn

2000-06-15 Thread armin holzgethan
Hi

AFAIK Sägezahn refers to

first of course the waveform

secondly a revival of a certain german(?) sound from 94(?);
since the  first Strass  record (by MikeInk) on FIM in 98 it has kind of
exploded, at least in germany, and has become a sub-genre, exploited
especially by Heckmann and FIM but also by MikeInk himself (Auftrieb).
Once there came out a FIM labelsampler mixed by Rush consisting entirely
of sägezahn.
Altough initially intendet as tongue-in-cheek by MInk (watch out for his
jokes!) the whole thing was taken quiet/too seriously after a while
 and IMHO became an escape-route out of a creativity-standstill for
some.
MInk (last time i mention him) offered in his late Freiland releases a
more demanding (and funky) and less trancey approach to this concept of
body-music.
 Nowadays it has  already faded away on the whole, but it also has
spread in some ways. For example you may hear some reminisences of
zägezahn coming out of Bristol or in various electro-trax (Antarctica...
anyone wants to drop a comment on this one?)
Porter Ricks was sägezahn avant la lettre.

one could say that Dusty Cabinets by Th Parrish (hellova track!!) is in
some ways sägezahnish, but thats a bit far out and afterall i dont want
to start it all over
again, i shed no tears over this bugger dustin.

Keepitup and staydown

armin


i'm missing Alan Oldham



RE Submit

2000-06-11 Thread armin holzgethan

16 on a black shirt or the negative on white or 16  in lets say electric
blue on black or white..., but without the writing.
Keep it minimal and a conspiracy.

7 isnt bad either though.

armin

BTW Knights of the Jaguar is trance.