Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
I don't think he was ever apologising or hiding anything at all- it was (as he has stated quite a few times now) simply an attempt to make people focus on the music and not the personality behind the music. As for techno elitists and the whole underground thing, its just not something that pops up in most music fans conversations these days, at least not in the sort of negative clique-ey sort of way that it perhaps used to- I simply can't remember the last time I heard someone complain oh, they're just not underground anymore- give us a few examples of the people you are talking about? cheers Jason On 14 Feb 2005, at 15:30, Martin Dust wrote: Not really, those days are gone and so are the days of apologising for doing great work, there's a whole group of techno elitists who still feel that things should be so underground they actually turned into their own trap. M the era of the faceless techno producer - Mike Banks is one of the last whose image was a ? in lots of peoples minds. So no more masks? Takes away a bit of the whole UR shroud of mystery don't you think? At least the music is still great.
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
My comment wasn't really aimed at Mike Jason nor UR - although I did hear someone yesterday saying that they (UR) will now be accused of going commercial - how we laughed! There is a school of people who believe that releasing records and not telling anyone, and by this I mean no marketing, is the way to go and what to scene needs, it's dead romantic and certainly one for the starving artists. And someone spoke to me about this last week so it does exist. Martin On 15 Feb 2005, at 09:28, Jason Brunton wrote: I don't think he was ever apologising or hiding anything at all- it was (as he has stated quite a few times now) simply an attempt to make people focus on the music and not the personality behind the music. As for techno elitists and the whole underground thing, its just not something that pops up in most music fans conversations these days, at least not in the sort of negative clique-ey sort of way that it perhaps used to- I simply can't remember the last time I heard someone complain oh, they're just not underground anymore- give us a few examples of the people you are talking about? cheers Jason On 14 Feb 2005, at 15:30, Martin Dust wrote: Not really, those days are gone and so are the days of apologising for doing great work, there's a whole group of techno elitists who still feel that things should be so underground they actually turned into their own trap. M the era of the faceless techno producer - Mike Banks is one of the last whose image was a ? in lots of peoples minds. So no more masks? Takes away a bit of the whole UR shroud of mystery don't you think? At least the music is still great.
(313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
the era of the faceless techno producer - Mike Banks is one of the last whose image was a ? in lots of peoples minds. So no more masks? Takes away a bit of the whole UR shroud of mystery don't you think? At least the music is still great. MEK Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/05 08:47 AM cc Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org, M : A : T : R : I : X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: (313) Los Hermanos statement Wot Mike without a mask or Rolando leaving? Or both the true end of an era?
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
Well there was a drawing of him on the front of Interstellar fugitives which was sort of a reasonable likeness. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org; Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; M : A : T : R : I : X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:24 PM Subject: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos) the era of the faceless techno producer - Mike Banks is one of the last whose image was a ? in lots of peoples minds. So no more masks? Takes away a bit of the whole UR shroud of mystery don't you think? At least the music is still great. MEK Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/05 08:47 AM cc Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org, M : A : T : R : I : X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: (313) Los Hermanos statement Wot Mike without a mask or Rolando leaving? Or both the true end of an era?
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
Not really, those days are gone and so are the days of apologising for doing great work, there's a whole group of techno elitists who still feel that things should be so underground they actually turned into their own trap. M the era of the faceless techno producer - Mike Banks is one of the last whose image was a ? in lots of peoples minds. So no more masks? Takes away a bit of the whole UR shroud of mystery don't you think? At least the music is still great.
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
I'm not super upset about this - in the end it's the music that matters. I just thought that MM coming out from behind the shadows sort of puts the last nail into the mysterious techno producer coffin. There will always be those that continue it though (for whatever reason). I think that MM showing his face might actually give more strength to the UR label. People now want to know who is doing what and they are willing to expose artists to others (discogs is a good example of this in action -w/artist bios, etc.) MM is in control of his image which is good. I see how it can fit into their propaganda (going face-to-face with the opponent, won't hide behind mask, etc.) MEK Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/05 09:30 AM cc Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org, M : A : T : R : I : X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos) Not really, those days are gone and so are the days of apologising for doing great work, there's a whole group of techno elitists who still feel that things should be so underground they actually turned into their own trap. M the era of the faceless techno producer - Mike Banks is one of the last whose image was a ? in lots of peoples minds. So no more masks? Takes away a bit of the whole UR shroud of mystery don't you think? At least the music is still great.
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
Just wondering, are disagreeing with the fact that they stopped wearing masks or that the music is still great? I am assuming the first bit? Anyway i think it is also a lot harder now the get through customs with a riot mask in your luggage and saying that you are performing in this band called Underground Resistance which is part of the Submerge company and that you play tracks that listen to names like Riot, Sonic Destroyer, Belgian Resistance etc. etc etc... these are all wrong words you shouldn't say at customs :) KJ On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Martin Dust wrote: Not really, those days are gone and so are the days of apologising for doing great work, there's a whole group of techno elitists who still feel that things should be so underground they actually turned into their own trap. M the era of the faceless techno producer - Mike Banks is one of the last whose image was a ? in lots of peoples minds. So no more masks? Takes away a bit of the whole UR shroud of mystery don't you think? At least the music is still great.
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
I'm not super upset about this - in the end it's the music that matters. I just thought that MM coming out from behind the shadows sort of puts the last nail into the mysterious techno producer coffin. There will always be those that continue it though (for whatever reason). MM but mysterious to who? I could really see the point in the early days but wearing a mask in the good ole USA just aint that wise at the moment. I think that MM showing his face might actually give more strength to the UR label. People now want to know who is doing what and they are willing to expose artists to others (discogs is a good example of this in action -w/artist bios, etc.) MM is in control of his image which is good. I see how it can fit into their propaganda (going face-to-face with the opponent, won't hide behind mask, etc.) Sure, I also think it makes perfect sense after listening to the interview he did M
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not super upset about this - in the end it's the music that matters. I just thought that MM coming out from behind the shadows sort of puts the last nail into the mysterious techno producer coffin. There will always be those that continue it though (for whatever reason). Well wearing masks is nothing of course, i mean The Residents are doing it for almost 20 years or something. Most acts have one really good reason in common, it disconnects music from persons. Personally i really don't care that much about masks, with or without it is still good music. KJ
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
Exactly - lots of bands play/produce behind a manufactured image/persona that hides the i.d. of the artist. All I was saying is, as an image - which has been a large factor in the marketing of the UR label - Mad Mike showing his face on a UR related website is pretty big imo. It's big step into a new era in UR's public image. One that I think will push the label forward. MEK Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 313 Mailinglist List 02/14/05 10:02 AM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos) On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not super upset about this - in the end it's the music that matters. I just thought that MM coming out from behind the shadows sort of puts the last nail into the mysterious techno producer coffin. There will always be those that continue it though (for whatever reason). Well wearing masks is nothing of course, i mean The Residents are doing it for almost 20 years or something. Most acts have one really good reason in common, it disconnects music from persons. Personally i really don't care that much about masks, with or without it is still good music. KJ
RE: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
Dang, I guess I better return my custom lucha mask with the blue flames diamonds on it. I'm keeping the yellow glitter laces though. Man! And I was looking forward to ushering in the era of disconnected bling techno. Guess this capes no good anymore either eh? Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems ** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 year olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to piracy or gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. ** -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:02 AM To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos) On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not super upset about this - in the end it's the music that matters. I just thought that MM coming out from behind the shadows sort of puts the last nail into the mysterious techno producer coffin. There will always be those that continue it though (for whatever reason). Well wearing masks is nothing of course, i mean The Residents are doing it for almost 20 years or something. Most acts have one really good reason in common, it disconnects music from persons. Personally i really don't care that much about masks, with or without it is still good music. KJ
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
when he played here with his live band (i'm having an amnesia attack and i cant remember the name) he wasnt wearing a mask. fab.
RE: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
Stoddard, Kamal said: Dang, I guess I better return my custom lucha mask with the blue flames diamonds on it. I'm keeping the yellow glitter laces though. Man! And I was looking forward to ushering in the era of disconnected bling techno. Guess this capes no good anymore either eh? Oh it was /you/ walking down Peachtree in that get-up. I was blinded and almost hit a lamp post. -bp
Re: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
for those of you wondering which one he is in the picture: the first guy in the picture. far left. on 2/14/05 11:48 AM, fab. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words: when he played here with his live band (i'm having an amnesia attack and i cant remember the name) he wasnt wearing a mask. fab.
