(313) Plastikman -- Closer....soundbytes?
Hallo, I have been awfully busy working, taking classes, and studying for my LSAT (ugh) during the past month. Does anyone know where I could hear a bit of this without searching for hours? Thanks. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
12", cd single, full length cd, and 3xLP afaik - Original Message - From: "David Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > I gave it a listen this morning and decided I'll be buying it when it comes out. Ido wonder if there are will be any EPs or extra mixes etc. on vinyl coming out of this project besides the current album that is floating around in mp3. I bet there will be some cool packaging too. > > _Dave > > -- Original Message - > Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 04:07:30 -0400 (EDT) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Kookie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > without giving up any priviledge information, i will say that this is an > album you must buy in october. having the mp3 on your hard drive is only > half the experience. > > > > > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: > > > After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of > > months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what > > I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me > > in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are > > very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep > > in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you "closer" into the mind of > > Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which > > relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how > > dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must > > buy when it comes out in October. > > > > -K > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM > > Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > > > > Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet > > seen > > > anything about it. > > > > > > > > > After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed > > > at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was able > > > to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album > > that > > > isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The > > whole > > > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each > > > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > > > listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production > > > methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its > > > potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that > > > don't quite work. > > > The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not > > > over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. > > > The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space > > and > > > feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence akin > > > to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). > > > This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without > > > dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding > > some > > > new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely > > new. > > > Buy on site. > > > -dmd > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
I gave it a listen this morning and decided I'll be buying it when it comes out. Ido wonder if there are will be any EPs or extra mixes etc. on vinyl coming out of this project besides the current album that is floating around in mp3. I bet there will be some cool packaging too. _Dave -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 04:07:30 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kookie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> without giving up any priviledge information, i will say that this is an album you must buy in october. having the mp3 on your hard drive is only half the experience. On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: > After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of > months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what > I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me > in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are > very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep > in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you "closer" into the mind of > Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which > relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how > dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must > buy when it comes out in October. > > -K > - Original Message - > From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM > Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet > seen > > anything about it. > > > > > > After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed > > at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was able > > to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album > that > > isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The > whole > > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each > > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > > listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production > > methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its > > potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that > > don't quite work. > > The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not > > over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. > > The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space > and > > feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence akin > > to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). > > This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without > > dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding > some > > new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely > new. > > Buy on site. > > -dmd > > > > > > >
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
You're right Brendan, I can confirm that the LFO tracks are a complete return to form. I like the new Kraftwerk Album, wasn't keen on The Mix or Café, but the new one is great in the car and we've been mixing in tracks live and it seem to work. I'm looking forward to the Plastikman album. Publish and be damned I say. It's a couple hours of music, no-ones dead :) md 6/8/03 1:36 PM Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've not heard it either, and the range of opinions I've heard about it so far > is broad enough for me not to have decided in advance whether I'm going to buy > it or not - at least it hasn't been universally panned! > > This year is shaping up to be quite a big one when it comes to people with > highly respected back catalogues reappearing on the scene with new material - > what with Kraftwerk, LFO and Plastikman all putting out albums this year. And > I bet all of those artists have experienced a great many sleepness nights, > what with all the worries over how their new stuff will be perceived in > comparison to the older, classic material. But from what I've heard about > these three albums so far, they all seem to have come up with the goods, > broadly speaking. The LFO album is probably the one I'm most looking forward > to, though, judging by what I've heard so far... > > Brendan > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 06 August 2003 14:32 >> To: The Deliverator; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer >> >> >> Perhaps making great music doesn't sit well with a hectic lifestyle as >> International Techno DJ? >> >> I haven't heard the new LP yet, but I do feel sorry for the >> guy. That won't >> make me buy a bad record though... >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "The Deliverator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:25 PM >> Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer >> >> >>> Jeez, >>> >>> I guess this is why Derrick May doesn't release much music >> anymore. It's >>> always impossible to live up to your past accomplishments isn't it? >>> >>> jim >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Max Duley / ARCart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:00 AM >>> Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer >>> >>> >>>> Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it >>> >>> >> >> >
RE: (313) Plastikman - Closer
I've not heard it either, and the range of opinions I've heard about it so far is broad enough for me not to have decided in advance whether I'm going to buy it or not - at least it hasn't been universally panned! This year is shaping up to be quite a big one when it comes to people with highly respected back catalogues reappearing on the scene with new material - what with Kraftwerk, LFO and Plastikman all putting out albums this year. And I bet all of those artists have experienced a great many sleepness nights, what with all the worries over how their new stuff will be perceived in comparison to the older, classic material. But from what I've heard about these three albums so far, they all seem to have come up with the goods, broadly speaking. The LFO album is probably the one I'm most looking forward to, though, judging by what I've heard so far... Brendan > -Original Message- > From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 August 2003 14:32 > To: The Deliverator; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > Perhaps making great music doesn't sit well with a hectic lifestyle as > International Techno DJ? > > I haven't heard the new LP yet, but I do feel sorry for the > guy. That won't > make me buy a bad record though... > > - Original Message - > From: "The Deliverator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > Jeez, > > > > I guess this is why Derrick May doesn't release much music > anymore. It's > > always impossible to live up to your past accomplishments isn't it? > > > > jim > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Max Duley / ARCart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:00 AM > > Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > > > > Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it > > > > > >
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
Perhaps making great music doesn't sit well with a hectic lifestyle as International Techno DJ? I haven't heard the new LP yet, but I do feel sorry for the guy. That won't make me buy a bad record though... - Original Message - From: "The Deliverator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > Jeez, > > I guess this is why Derrick May doesn't release much music anymore. It's > always impossible to live up to your past accomplishments isn't it? > > jim > > > - Original Message - > From: "Max Duley / ARCart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:00 AM > Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it > >
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
Jeez, I guess this is why Derrick May doesn't release much music anymore. It's always impossible to live up to your past accomplishments isn't it? jim - Original Message - From: "Max Duley / ARCart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it Just listened to this for the first time and it was a terrible disappointment. It had a few moments, but at least until track 6 I could hardly believe how devoid of substance it was. I don't think it sounds a lot like any of the previous Plastikman albums, but then there's no reason why it should...I always thought it was pretty sad that he got some sort of backlash when "Consumed" came out cos it didn't sound like all the other stuff. Plastikman always had an innovative edge that pushed things in a different direction with each chapter, but to me this album sounds like it was made by someone who'd heard all the previous PM work and wanted to make something that sounded like it was made by the same person, although that hardly makes sense as it was in fact made by the same person. It just sounds to me like imitation rather than innovation. Imitation of his own past masterpieces, perhaps, although I also hear strains of Taylor Dupree, 12K style dry, bitty minimalism...just not done very well at all, and with some rather nauseatingly bad use of delay effects. The production is kind of hard to deal with, with a lot of very dry and tight kick drums (that would in fact sound excellent on a club rig, so no real complaints there). That said, it has no space to it, it's very...close. I just could not connect with it until he started to bring in some atmosphere in track 6 or 7. If I had to compare it to a previous album it's definitely most similar to "Consumed", which instantly became my favourite PM album when I first heard it (only last year)...but this one has none of the depth, character or atmosphere of that album. It doesn't sound like he's really tried very hard...or tried at all. The album, from what I hear (and as the name might suggest) is supposed to be the best ever glimpse into the mind of Mr Hawtin...sounds to me like he really needs a rest. I've seen a bunch of reactions to it so far...everything from "shit", to "going to be a classic", to "very good". Personally, I'd buy some of the tracks if they came out on 12" vinyl (track 8 in particular is very good) but overall I'd be loth to shell out for the whole album as it's really not got much going for it. That last track, as has been mentioned, is a definite taste of the PM of old, but I've already got several albums of that stuff. h, I really was looking forward to this album, but it doesn't even approach the levels of what I was expecting. Anyway, these are all just my opinions after one listen. Perhaps parts of it will grow on me, and I'll still definitely go along if he does a Plastikman live show.
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
without giving up any priviledge information, i will say that this is an album you must buy in october. having the mp3 on your hard drive is only half the experience. On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: > After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of > months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what > I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me > in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are > very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep > in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you "closer" into the mind of > Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which > relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how > dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must > buy when it comes out in October. > > -K > - Original Message - > From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM > Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet > seen > > anything about it. > > > > > > After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed > > at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was able > > to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album > that > > isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The > whole > > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each > > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > > listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production > > methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its > > potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that > > don't quite work. > > The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not > > over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. > > The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space > and > > feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence akin > > to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). > > This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without > > dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding > some > > new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely > new. > > Buy on site. > > -dmd > > > > > > >
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > im not sure how im feeling. ive previously thought that every > plastikman album was better than the one before it. but certain things > about this im not feeling. the best part of consumed for me was how > far in the background the kick drum was. not only was it not heavy, it > just wasnt loud. in this new album, the kicks mostly stand out in > front of the bass instead of being part of it like it was on consumed. > the vocals dont necessarily bother me, but im not a huge fan of them > either. i think its the second track that sounds like a weak rmx of > one of the first couple tracks on consumed. that was pretty > dissappointing as well. im not feeling this as much as consumed, > though this is definitely one possible evolution of that sound. its > just not the one i had been excpecting. i will say that "mind in > rewind" is a funky track. I'm inclined to agree with Tom on this. I'd have to say I think this album sounds kind of like Consumed 1.1... Some parts of it are pretty rad (I like "Ping Pong," "Mind In Rewind," etc) but I really don't think he broke any new ground with this album and at the same time he didn't return to the acid sound like I was hoping. "Consumed" was a great album, but really stood out because it was so new and original. If this had been Sheet 1.1 instead, I really would've been feeling it more. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
I am talking about Richie Hawtin's work in general. Richie/Plastikman disappointed me in the last couple of years. That's my absolutely personal opinion. I don't want to see a new "war" about Richie Hawtin and his qualities on this list here. He was and is very important for our scene and he definitely did a lot for our music. @jim: Well, there are some promo CD floating around already, so I think the promotion machinery of Nova Mute already works. Arne "garrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > you're comparing plastikman releases to richie hawtin releases? > or you're saying that consumed and artifakts didn't hold up to the > plastikman records before them, but this one does? > > - Original Message - > From: "Arne Weinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > In my opinion the new album is much more Plastikman again than the last > ones. Richie concentrated again on the sound he got famous before he did > such IMHO crappy stuff like the Orange 12". This is a worth foolow up to > Muzik and Sheet One adapted to 2003. Will definitely be one of the important > albums of 2003 for sure. > > > > Arne > > > > > > "Kookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past > couple of > > > months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what > > > I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks > me > > > in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase > are > > > very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to > keep > > > in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you "closer" into the mind > of > > > Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm > which > > > relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on > how > > > dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a > must > > > buy when it comes out in October. > > > > > > -K > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM > > > Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet > > > seen > > > > anything about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very > impressed > > > > at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was > able > > > > to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new > album > > > that > > > > isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The > > > whole > > > > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with > each > > > > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > > > > listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production > > > > methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to > its > > > > potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things > that > > > > don't quite work. > > > > The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not > > > > over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the > description. > > > > The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of > space > > > and > > > > feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence > akin > > > > to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). > > > > This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without > > > > dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding > > > some > > > > new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely > > > new. > > > > Buy on site. > > > > -dmd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > °°° > > www.arneweinberg.de > > HEADSPACE Rec. > > KEYNOTE Rec. > > DOWN LOW MUSIC > > STARBABY Rec. > > °°° > > -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de HEADSPACE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC STARBABY Rec. °°°
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
hoox :P - Original Message - From: "The Deliverator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > If it isn't out till October how is everyone listening to this thing? > > jim > > - Original Message - > From: "Kookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:18 PM > Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple > of > > months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what > > I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks > me > > in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are > > very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to > keep > > in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you "closer" into the mind > of > > Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm > which > > relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on > how > > dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must > > buy when it comes out in October. > > > > -K > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM > > Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > > > > Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet > > seen > > > anything about it. > > > > > > > > > After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very > impressed > > > at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was > able > > > to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album > > that > > > isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The > > whole > > > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with > each > > > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > > > listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production > > > methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its > > > potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that > > > don't quite work. > > > The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not > > > over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the > description. > > > The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space > > and > > > feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence > akin > > > to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). > > > This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without > > > dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding > > some > > > new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely > > new. > > > Buy on site. > > > -dmd > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
If it isn't out till October how is everyone listening to this thing? jim - Original Message - From: "Kookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of > months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what > I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me > in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are > very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep > in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you "closer" into the mind of > Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which > relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how > dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must > buy when it comes out in October. > > -K > - Original Message - > From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM > Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet > seen > > anything about it. > > > > > > After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed > > at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was able > > to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album > that > > isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The > whole > > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each > > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > > listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production > > methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its > > potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that > > don't quite work. > > The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not > > over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. > > The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space > and > > feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence akin > > to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). > > This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without > > dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding > some > > new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely > new. > > Buy on site. > > -dmd > > > > > >
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
you're comparing plastikman releases to richie hawtin releases? or you're saying that consumed and artifakts didn't hold up to the plastikman records before them, but this one does? - Original Message - From: "Arne Weinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer > In my opinion the new album is much more Plastikman again than the last ones. Richie concentrated again on the sound he got famous before he did such IMHO crappy stuff like the Orange 12". This is a worth foolow up to Muzik and Sheet One adapted to 2003. Will definitely be one of the important albums of 2003 for sure. > > Arne > > > "Kookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of > > months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what > > I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me > > in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are > > very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep > > in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you "closer" into the mind of > > Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which > > relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how > > dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must > > buy when it comes out in October. > > > > -K > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM > > Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > > > > Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet > > seen > > > anything about it. > > > > > > > > > After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed > > > at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was able > > > to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album > > that > > > isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The > > whole > > > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each > > > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > > > listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production > > > methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its > > > potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that > > > don't quite work. > > > The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not > > > over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. > > > The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space > > and > > > feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence akin > > > to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). > > > This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without > > > dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding > > some > > > new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely > > new. > > > Buy on site. > > > -dmd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > °°° > www.arneweinberg.de > HEADSPACE Rec. > KEYNOTE Rec. > DOWN LOW MUSIC > STARBABY Rec. > °°°
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
In my opinion the new album is much more Plastikman again than the last ones. Richie concentrated again on the sound he got famous before he did such IMHO crappy stuff like the Orange 12". This is a worth foolow up to Muzik and Sheet One adapted to 2003. Will definitely be one of the important albums of 2003 for sure. Arne "Kookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of > months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what > I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me > in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are > very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep > in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you "closer" into the mind of > Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which > relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how > dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must > buy when it comes out in October. > > -K > - Original Message - > From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM > Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer > > > > Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet > seen > > anything about it. > > > > > > After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed > > at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was able > > to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album > that > > isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The > whole > > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each > > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > > listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production > > methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its > > potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that > > don't quite work. > > The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not > > over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. > > The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space > and > > feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence akin > > to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). > > This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without > > dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding > some > > new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely > new. > > Buy on site. > > -dmd > > > > > > > -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de HEADSPACE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC STARBABY Rec. °°°
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you "closer" into the mind of Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must buy when it comes out in October. -K - Original Message - From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer > Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet seen > anything about it. > > > After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed > at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was able > to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album that > isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The whole > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production > methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its > potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that > don't quite work. > The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not > over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. > The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space and > feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence akin > to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). > This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without > dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding some > new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely new. > Buy on site. > -dmd > >
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
> The whole > album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each > song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a > listener. i think he's really mastered this. every plastikman album (possibly with the exception of Artifakts) has worked as an Album, with, to my ears, a very defined beginning, middle, and end. like a well told story. it's ironic that 5 years ago my literature professor father pointed this out to me after listening to Consumed himself.
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
-- Original Message -- From: Dennis Donohue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed >at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was able >to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album that >isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The whole >album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each >song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a >listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production >methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its >potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that >don't quite work. >The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not >over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. >The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space and >feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence akin >to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). >This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without >dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding some >new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely new. >Buy on site. im not sure how im feeling. ive previously thought that every plastikman album was better than the one before it. but certain things about this im not feeling. the best part of consumed for me was how far in the background the kick drum was. not only was it not heavy, it just wasnt loud. in this new album, the kicks mostly stand out in front of the bass instead of being part of it like it was on consumed. the vocals dont necessarily bother me, but im not a huge fan of them either. i think its the second track that sounds like a weak rmx of one of the first couple tracks on consumed. that was pretty dissappointing as well. im not feeling this as much as consumed, though this is definitely one possible evolution of that sound. its just not the one i had been excpecting. i will say that "mind in rewind" is a funky track. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Plastikman - Closer
Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet seen anything about it. After giving "Closer" a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed at not only the musical quality but the way in which "Plastikman" was able to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album that isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The whole album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that don't quite work. The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space and feel, ala "Consumed", but the songs all have more of driving presence akin to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding some new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely new. Buy on site. -dmd
