Re: (313) Ortofon DJ S stylii _ cheapest?
My two cents: Why not try another pair of cartridges/stylus? I am using AudioTecnica 95E with great pleasure. Sounds vastly superior to cheap Stanton and Ortofons and retails for around GBP21 on eBay (list price is around GBP25), for BOTH stylus and cartridge. Should be easy to get in the USA, too. Give it a go! G On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 09:07:41AM -, Tristan Watkins wrote: Been searching online for the cheapest price for a pair of these. So far it's been from www.djdeals.com but their privacy policy can go s*ck it. Basically they reserve the right to share your personal info with anyone and there is no opt-out. However, they are selling them for $35.00 each I just need the tips - not the whole thing and that was the lowest I've found in the US. I'd prefer to find some place that doesn't charge for shipping too. Pretty much all the other prices are around $41 to 49.00 I'd suggest sticking with who you know as well. I recall Brelson saying he's received used styli when ordering them budget in the past. Better off ordering them from a reputable source. Which Ortofon are you trying to get? I always used to use http://www.pssl.com but the prices for the yellow ones are around $60. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk __ Guilherme Menegon ArantesSao Paulo, Brasil __
Re: (313) Ortofon DJ S stylii _ cheapest?
I actually bought mine with some records on www.decks.de ... This is the cheapest i have found in Europe. I paid the Elliptic Concorde Dj way cheaper i would get the Spherical in my store here. Benoît. [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Been searching online for the cheapest price for a pair of these. So far it's been from www.djdeals.com but their privacy policy can go s*ck it. Basically they reserve the right to share your personal info with anyone and there is no opt-out. However, they are selling them for $35.00 each I just need the tips - not the whole thing and that was the lowest I've found in the US. I'd prefer to find some place that doesn't charge for shipping too. Pretty much all the other prices are around $41 to 49.00 anyone got a reputable place they buy them from for a low price? MEK
(313) Ortofon DJ S stylii _ cheapest?
Been searching online for the cheapest price for a pair of these. So far it's been from www.djdeals.com but their privacy policy can go s*ck it. Basically they reserve the right to share your personal info with anyone and there is no opt-out. However, they are selling them for $35.00 each I just need the tips - not the whole thing and that was the lowest I've found in the US. I'd prefer to find some place that doesn't charge for shipping too. Pretty much all the other prices are around $41 to 49.00 anyone got a reputable place they buy them from for a low price? MEK
Re: (313) Ortofon DJ S stylii _ cheapest?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been searching online for the cheapest price for a pair of these. So far it's been from www.djdeals.com but their privacy policy can go s*ck it. Basically they reserve the right to share your personal info with anyone and there is no opt-out. However, they are selling them for $35.00 each I just need the tips - not the whole thing and that was the lowest I've found in the US. I'd prefer to find some place that doesn't charge for shipping too. Pretty much all the other prices are around $41 to 49.00 You know, I catch myself doing this sometimes too. All worried about the legitimacy of the site with the lowest price. And then I do the math and realize that it's not worth 6-8$ to worry about it, and go with the place I trust. Just an idea. I mean, I like to save money, but there's a point at which, for cheap items especially, the difference between the rock bottom and the middle of the pack is trivial. Incidentally, there's one on Amazon for $35, from a seller with 80% positive feedback. Wants $6 for shipping though. -bp
Re: (313) Ortofon DJ S stylii _ cheapest?
and how much worrying is worth saving the 8 bux? - Original Message - From: Brian balistic Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: Re: (313) Ortofon DJ S stylii _ cheapest? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been searching online for the cheapest price for a pair of these. So far it's been from www.djdeals.com but their privacy policy can go s*ck it. Basically they reserve the right to share your personal info with anyone and there is no opt-out. However, they are selling them for $35.00 each I just need the tips - not the whole thing and that was the lowest I've found in the US. I'd prefer to find some place that doesn't charge for shipping too. Pretty much all the other prices are around $41 to 49.00 You know, I catch myself doing this sometimes too. All worried about the legitimacy of the site with the lowest price. And then I do the math and realize that it's not worth 6-8$ to worry about it, and go with the place I trust. Just an idea. I mean, I like to save money, but there's a point at which, for cheap items especially, the difference between the rock bottom and the middle of the pack is trivial. Incidentally, there's one on Amazon for $35, from a seller with 80% positive feedback. Wants $6 for shipping though. -bp
Re: (313) Ortofon DJ S stylii _ cheapest?
/0 wrote: and how much worrying is worth saving the 8 bux? Like 15 minutes, tops. -bp
Re: (313) Ortofon DJ S stylii _ cheapest?
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 1:53 AM Subject: (313) Ortofon DJ S stylii _ cheapest? Been searching online for the cheapest price for a pair of these. So far it's been from www.djdeals.com but their privacy policy can go s*ck it. Basically they reserve the right to share your personal info with anyone and there is no opt-out. However, they are selling them for $35.00 each I just need the tips - not the whole thing and that was the lowest I've found in the US. I'd prefer to find some place that doesn't charge for shipping too. Pretty much all the other prices are around $41 to 49.00 I'd suggest sticking with who you know as well. I recall Brelson saying he's received used styli when ordering them budget in the past. Better off ordering them from a reputable source. Which Ortofon are you trying to get? I always used to use http://www.pssl.com but the prices for the yellow ones are around $60. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) ortofon cart question
I've been using my ortofons for over 5 years now, and before that, i was using stanton headshells/styli. I would reccomend avoiding the stantons, as I have to use them sometimes in various clubs or things, and they always seem to have the same issue with one channel or the other not contacting correctly inside the tonearm (resulting in the need to take the headshell off and lick the thing for a better connection). I have never had this issue with my ortofons, and my ortofons last probably 4x longer (per headshell and per stylus). As for the original question, I've always bought the Pro S, which at one time was the same cost as the DJ S or nightclub S. I beleive that the S designation has to do with teh shape of the stylus (meaning spherical) as oopposed to elliptical. The different shape of the styli affect backcueing and playing differently. Spherical styli are more suited for backcuing or scratching (in ortofons opinion), and the elliptical styli give a better response for straight playing (think traditional house mixing). The concord designation deals with the shape of the headshell itself, and is the sleek, long headshell with the little annoying lightweight arm that breaks off really easily. If i could find a cheap set of OM style headshells, I'd rather use those, simply because they don't have that little arm that always breaks off. All stylii and headshells from ortofon appear to be interchangable, but depending on the model, they only have the attributes of the original set. In other words, if you get a stylus with better frequency response, but the headshell can't recognize that frequency response, you are reduced to the lowest common denominator. For me, I've had the best luck (or best price/part) with the Concord Pro (and Pro S). I use the Pro body, and buy Pro S styli. I've been using them for about the last 5 years, and have only had issues with the little arm breaking. All of the other name headshells and styli that i've used have not sounded as fresh and vibrant, and have always had little mechanical deficiancies (like the problem i explained with the stanton headshells). I've found that, at least in this market, you really do get what you pay for, and i get much more mileage and better sound out of paying a little bit more on the front end. Dense. On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Eric Kato wrote: I'm still a Ortofon user, but the Stantons seem to be the better choice as of late. They're cheaper, sound is richer and the contacts don't rust. Yea, the sound could be argued, but for my ears at least, listening to them side by side with the same piece of vinyl, I like the Stantons better. Funny, about eight years ago when I compared the two... I liked the Ortofons better. My two cents, Eric -Original Message- From: Rev. Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 11, 2004 2:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) ortofon cart question this may be better directed to 313tk, but i figured some of you guys might know... i'm in the market for a new set of needles/carts and was looking at the ortofons. however, their website sucks and i'm not able to find any good reviews or product comparisons. pro, nightclub e, nightclub s, broadcast anyone have experience with more than one kind of these and can recommend one over another? Thanks, -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
Re: (313) ortofon cart question
On Jun 12, 2004, at 11:39 AM, Eric Kato wrote: Raph, Funny you mentioned the lick and wipe of the contacts. I do it, that's why I mentioned the rust problem with the Ortos. Ya, I usually keep a can of contact cleaner, except the damn can is never around when I need it!! A pencil eraser will do the trick a lot of the time, and it's easy to keep one in your record bag. -- Tim Moore
RE: (313) ortofon cart question
I experience the lick the contacts ONLY with stanton trackmaster IIs and similar. The contacts on them are rounded and seem to lose contact after only 3 months or so. I think that if you're having problems like that, it may be self-propogating, or because you've had to do it - you have to continue doing it. I've personally never had to do that with ortofons, and i've been using them for quite some time. dense. On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Eric Kato wrote: Raph, Funny you mentioned the lick and wipe of the contacts. I do it, that's why I mentioned the rust problem with the Ortos. Ya, I usually keep a can of contact cleaner, except the damn can is never around when I need it!! Eric -Original Message- From: Raph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 12, 2004 6:06 AM To: 'Eric Kato' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Rev. Jeffrey Paul' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ortofon cart question One other thing about Orts that ppl should consider is that the spacing on the contacts is smaller than Stanton which usually results in poor contacts in humid conditions which then in turn results in the lick the contacts technique which will corrode BOTH the contacts on the head shell AND the tone arm contacts. I regularly work on tech12s and this is a very, if not the most, common problem I see with ppls turntables. Plus, tone arm is the most expensive and time consuming part (short of the motor) to replace on the Techics deck and I think the is a MAJOR design flaw in the Ortofons. I recommend Stanton Groovemaster II's. Guitar Center has had them on special for like 49.99 around here (Det) and they give an excellent blance of sound and tracking (much better than trackmasters). I still use my groovemasters that I bought ten years ago (gone thourgh 5 sets of replacments styli) and have had no problems with them whatsoever. My 2 cents Raph -Original Message- From: Eric Kato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:10 PM To: Rev. Jeffrey Paul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ortofon cart question I'm still a Ortofon user, but the Stantons seem to be the better choice as of late. They're cheaper, sound is richer and the contacts don't rust. Yea, the sound could be argued, but for my ears at least, listening to them side by side with the same piece of vinyl, I like the Stantons better. Funny, about eight years ago when I compared the two... I liked the Ortofons better. My two cents, Eric -Original Message- From: Rev. Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 11, 2004 2:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) ortofon cart question this may be better directed to 313tk, but i figured some of you guys might know... i'm in the market for a new set of needles/carts and was looking at the ortofons. however, their website sucks and i'm not able to find any good reviews or product comparisons. pro, nightclub e, nightclub s, broadcast anyone have experience with more than one kind of these and can recommend one over another? Thanks, -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
Re: (313) ortofon cart question
I'm still a Ortofon user, but the Stantons seem to be the better choice as of late. They're cheaper, sound is richer and the contacts don't rust. Yea, the sound could be argued, but for my ears at least, listening to them side by side with the same piece of vinyl, I like the Stantons better. Funny, about eight years ago when I compared the two... I liked the Ortofons better. My two cents, Eric -Original Message- From: Rev. Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 11, 2004 2:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) ortofon cart question this may be better directed to 313tk, but i figured some of you guys might know... i'm in the market for a new set of needles/carts and was looking at the ortofons. however, their website sucks and i'm not able to find any good reviews or product comparisons. pro, nightclub e, nightclub s, broadcast anyone have experience with more than one kind of these and can recommend one over another? Thanks, -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
RE: (313) ortofon cart question
One other thing about Orts that ppl should consider is that the spacing on the contacts is smaller than Stanton which usually results in poor contacts in humid conditions which then in turn results in the lick the contacts technique which will corrode BOTH the contacts on the head shell AND the tone arm contacts. I regularly work on tech12s and this is a very, if not the most, common problem I see with ppls turntables. Plus, tone arm is the most expensive and time consuming part (short of the motor) to replace on the Techics deck and I think the is a MAJOR design flaw in the Ortofons. I recommend Stanton Groovemaster II's. Guitar Center has had them on special for like 49.99 around here (Det) and they give an excellent blance of sound and tracking (much better than trackmasters). I still use my groovemasters that I bought ten years ago (gone thourgh 5 sets of replacments styli) and have had no problems with them whatsoever. My 2 cents Raph -Original Message- From: Eric Kato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:10 PM To: Rev. Jeffrey Paul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ortofon cart question I'm still a Ortofon user, but the Stantons seem to be the better choice as of late. They're cheaper, sound is richer and the contacts don't rust. Yea, the sound could be argued, but for my ears at least, listening to them side by side with the same piece of vinyl, I like the Stantons better. Funny, about eight years ago when I compared the two... I liked the Ortofons better. My two cents, Eric -Original Message- From: Rev. Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 11, 2004 2:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) ortofon cart question this may be better directed to 313tk, but i figured some of you guys might know... i'm in the market for a new set of needles/carts and was looking at the ortofons. however, their website sucks and i'm not able to find any good reviews or product comparisons. pro, nightclub e, nightclub s, broadcast anyone have experience with more than one kind of these and can recommend one over another? Thanks, -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
RE: (313) ortofon cart question
Raph, Funny you mentioned the lick and wipe of the contacts. I do it, that's why I mentioned the rust problem with the Ortos. Ya, I usually keep a can of contact cleaner, except the damn can is never around when I need it!! Eric -Original Message- From: Raph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 12, 2004 6:06 AM To: 'Eric Kato' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Rev. Jeffrey Paul' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ortofon cart question One other thing about Orts that ppl should consider is that the spacing on the contacts is smaller than Stanton which usually results in poor contacts in humid conditions which then in turn results in the lick the contacts technique which will corrode BOTH the contacts on the head shell AND the tone arm contacts. I regularly work on tech12s and this is a very, if not the most, common problem I see with ppls turntables. Plus, tone arm is the most expensive and time consuming part (short of the motor) to replace on the Techics deck and I think the is a MAJOR design flaw in the Ortofons. I recommend Stanton Groovemaster II's. Guitar Center has had them on special for like 49.99 around here (Det) and they give an excellent blance of sound and tracking (much better than trackmasters). I still use my groovemasters that I bought ten years ago (gone thourgh 5 sets of replacments styli) and have had no problems with them whatsoever. My 2 cents Raph -Original Message- From: Eric Kato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:10 PM To: Rev. Jeffrey Paul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ortofon cart question I'm still a Ortofon user, but the Stantons seem to be the better choice as of late. They're cheaper, sound is richer and the contacts don't rust. Yea, the sound could be argued, but for my ears at least, listening to them side by side with the same piece of vinyl, I like the Stantons better. Funny, about eight years ago when I compared the two... I liked the Ortofons better. My two cents, Eric -Original Message- From: Rev. Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 11, 2004 2:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) ortofon cart question this may be better directed to 313tk, but i figured some of you guys might know... i'm in the market for a new set of needles/carts and was looking at the ortofons. however, their website sucks and i'm not able to find any good reviews or product comparisons. pro, nightclub e, nightclub s, broadcast anyone have experience with more than one kind of these and can recommend one over another? Thanks, -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
(313) ortofon cart question
this may be better directed to 313tk, but i figured some of you guys might know... i'm in the market for a new set of needles/carts and was looking at the ortofons. however, their website sucks and i'm not able to find any good reviews or product comparisons. pro, nightclub e, nightclub s, broadcast anyone have experience with more than one kind of these and can recommend one over another? Thanks, -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
Re: (313) ortofon cart question
According to my local hi-fi stereo store (http://www.needledoctor.com/) that services turntables as one of their main businesses, and also assist DJs all the time in needle replacements the only thing different between these is the tip itself. the body of it isn't different from one model to the next. anyone know if this is true? if that's the case then I would advise you to buy the cheapest complete set and buy the most expensive replacement tips when time comes. I would use either the Nightclub or the DJ - the nightclubs are supposed to glow in the dark if I'm not mistaken either way remember that elliptical wear less on the record but spherical tips track more accurately Ortofon's have both styles in either E or S models MEK Rev. Jeffrey PaulTo: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: et Subject: (313) ortofon cart question 06/11/04 04:05 PM this may be better directed to 313tk, but i figured some of you guys might know... i'm in the market for a new set of needles/carts and was looking at the ortofons. however, their website sucks and i'm not able to find any good reviews or product comparisons. pro, nightclub e, nightclub s, broadcast anyone have experience with more than one kind of these and can recommend one over another? Thanks, -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
Re: (313) ortofon cart question
the only thing different between these is the tip itself. the body of it isn't different from one model to the next. anyone know if this is true? while I'm not certain the bodies are exactly the same, the tips work fine when interchanged between various models. Be advised, however, that the very cheapest models don't have interchangable tips at all. I would use either the Nightclub or the DJ - the nightclubs are supposed to glow in the dark if I'm not mistaken either way remember that elliptical wear less on the record but sphericaltips track more accurately Ortofon's have both styles in either "E" or "S" models the DJ-S model (the blue one) has been very good to me, plus they come with an extra stylus. I'm only on my 2nd pair in three years, and they get used in the club fairly regularly. Ortofons in general arefairly gentle on the records -- especially when compared with scratch carts like the Shure M44-7 -- so for DJ use I would stick with the spherical styli. - jobot - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, June 11, 2004 4:27 pm Subject: Re: (313) ortofon cart question According to my local hi-fi stereo store (http://www.needledoctor.com/)that services turntables as one of their main businesses, and also assist DJs all the time in needle replacements the only thing different between these is the tip itself. the body of it isn't different from one model to the next. anyone know if this is true? if that's the case then I would advise you to buy the cheapest complete set and buy the most expensive replacement tips when time comes. I would use either the Nightclub or the DJ - the nightclubs are supposed to glow in the dark if I'm not mistaken either way remember that elliptical wear less on the record but sphericaltips track more accurately Ortofon's have both styles in either "E" or "S" models MEK "Rev. Jeffrey Paul" To: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: et Subject: (313) ortofon cart question06/11/04 04:05 PMthis may be better directed to 313tk, but i figured some of you guys might know... i'm in the market for a new set of needles/carts and was looking at the ortofons. however, their website sucks and i'm not able to find any good reviews or product comparisons. pro, nightclub e, nightclub s, broadcast anyone have experience with more than one kind of these and can recommend one over another? Thanks, -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul -datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
[313] Ortofon nightclub OM mounting
can someone please guide me on the best way to mount these for sound , record life , etc. thanks!!! Nelson Fernandez
(313) ortofon
Hi, Sorry for the cross-post and non-content (this will be the last for a while) but I'm looking for a store online to get a pair of Ortofon cartridges for cheap... I've seen the silvers go for as low as $89.99 + 1 spare stylus, but I'm sure I can get cheaper. Also, would anyone with experience recommend any particular ortofon model over another? Thanks for your help, Aaron
