Re: FW: (313) woooah, hold on a second,

2005-03-02 Thread Simon Kong



 Alright '

  I'm using AudioHijack to hijack the realplayer.

  I have downloaded the .rm file, loaded it into AudioHijack,

  which
  then opens realplayer

  Realplayer, plays the file while AudioHijack records it as an MP3.

  /

  All I need now is a way to distribute it ' I haven't figured out how
  to load stuff onto a network so that specific people, like the peeps
  on this list can access it.

  Suggestions ?

  .simon





Greg Earle wrote:

On Mar 1, 2005, at 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


well not that clever francis. just dl the file that is linked
of the button and then read it. that's the address of the
full .rm file



OK I was setting myself up using the word clever.
Things just seem clever to me because I'm not.
Easy enough to find the proper address of the .rm file (I think you
mean as opposed to the .ram 'presentation' file?)
e.g. http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/DMAY_kiss.rm



The actual direct link to the 11.8 Mbyte .rm file for the
KISS mix is

http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/derrickmay_kiss.rm

The direct link to the 29.4 Mbyte .rm file for the
Sunday Service mix is

http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/ 
Derrick%20May%20Pure%20The%20Sunday%20Service%201993.rm


(In case that got automatically line-broken, you may have to
 cut'n'paste)


but then how do you download? (you'll have to spell it out for a
non-clever like me)



[10:06] nightowl:~/Desktop % uname -a
Darwin nightowl 7.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17
PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh
powerpc

[10:06] nightowl:~/Desktop % curl -O  
http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/derrickmay_kiss.rm;

% Total  % Received % Xferd  Average Speed  Time   Curr.
 Dload  Upload TotalCurrent  Left  Speed
100 11.8M 100 11.8M  0   0   437k 0  0:00:27  0:00:27  0:00:00  438k

Everything's easier on a Macintosh  :-)


Actually what I meant by 'you need clever software or a cleverly
set up PC to download or rip' was even after you've downloaded
(the bit I find I can't do) you either need something like
Streamripper to get it out of the .rm format or a PC that can
store as .wav, .mp3, whatever, anything you play on it.



MPlayer will do it.  There's a beta release for Windoze at

http://ftp5.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/releases/win32-beta/

It's very easy to transcode Real streams to something else in
MPlayer from the UNIX command line (Macs, Linux boxes, Solaris
et al.) but I've no idea how you'd do it in Windoze ...

- Greg

P.S. To any Mac users, it looks like Real released a new version
 (v325) of RealPlayer 10.0.0 (a new RealPlayer10GOLD.dmg
 disc image) ...




Re: FW: (313) woooah, hold on a second,

2005-03-02 Thread David Gillies
There's heaps of 313'ers who use Soul Seek. That could be cool. or
perhaps a bit torrent?

On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 16:20 +1300, Simon Kong wrote:
 
   Alright '
 
I'm using AudioHijack to hijack the realplayer.
 
I have downloaded the .rm file, loaded it into AudioHijack,
 
which
then opens realplayer
 
Realplayer, plays the file while AudioHijack records it as an MP3.
 
/
 
All I need now is a way to distribute it ' I haven't figured out how
to load stuff onto a network so that specific people, like the peeps
on this list can access it.
 
Suggestions ?
 
.simon
 
 
 
 
 
 Greg Earle wrote:
  On Mar 1, 2005, at 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  well not that clever francis. just dl the file that is linked
  of the button and then read it. that's the address of the
  full .rm file
 
 
  OK I was setting myself up using the word clever.
  Things just seem clever to me because I'm not.
  Easy enough to find the proper address of the .rm file (I think you
  mean as opposed to the .ram 'presentation' file?)
  e.g. http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/DMAY_kiss.rm
  
  
  The actual direct link to the 11.8 Mbyte .rm file for the
  KISS mix is
  
  http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/derrickmay_kiss.rm
  
  The direct link to the 29.4 Mbyte .rm file for the
  Sunday Service mix is
  
  http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/ 
  Derrick%20May%20Pure%20The%20Sunday%20Service%201993.rm
  
  (In case that got automatically line-broken, you may have to
   cut'n'paste)
  
  but then how do you download? (you'll have to spell it out for a
  non-clever like me)
  
  
  [10:06] nightowl:~/Desktop % uname -a
  Darwin nightowl 7.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17
  PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh
  powerpc
  
  [10:06] nightowl:~/Desktop % curl -O  
  http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/derrickmay_kiss.rm;
  % Total  % Received % Xferd  Average Speed  Time   Curr.
   Dload  Upload TotalCurrent  Left  Speed
  100 11.8M 100 11.8M  0   0   437k 0  0:00:27  0:00:27  0:00:00  438k
  
  Everything's easier on a Macintosh  :-)
  
  Actually what I meant by 'you need clever software or a cleverly
  set up PC to download or rip' was even after you've downloaded
  (the bit I find I can't do) you either need something like
  Streamripper to get it out of the .rm format or a PC that can
  store as .wav, .mp3, whatever, anything you play on it.
  
  
  MPlayer will do it.  There's a beta release for Windoze at
  
  http://ftp5.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/releases/win32-beta/
  
  It's very easy to transcode Real streams to something else in
  MPlayer from the UNIX command line (Macs, Linux boxes, Solaris
  et al.) but I've no idea how you'd do it in Windoze ...
  
  - Greg
  
  P.S. To any Mac users, it looks like Real released a new version
   (v325) of RealPlayer 10.0.0 (a new RealPlayer10GOLD.dmg
   disc image) ...
  
  



Re: FW: (313) woooah, hold on a second,

2005-03-02 Thread James_Bucknell




how's the sound quality? is it worth distributing as an mp3 when it's a
ripped real audio file that's already available.
james
www.jbucknell.com




   
 Simon Kong
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 z To 
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   Re: FW: (313) woooah, hold on a 
   second, 
   
   
   
   
   
   






  Alright '

   I'm using AudioHijack to hijack the realplayer.

   I have downloaded the .rm file, loaded it into AudioHijack,

   which
   then opens realplayer

   Realplayer, plays the file while AudioHijack records it as an MP3.

   /

   All I need now is a way to distribute it ' I haven't figured out how
   to load stuff onto a network so that specific people, like the peeps
   on this list can access it.

   Suggestions ?

   .simon





Greg Earle wrote:
 On Mar 1, 2005, at 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well not that clever francis. just dl the file that is linked
 of the button and then read it. that's the address of the
 full .rm file


 OK I was setting myself up using the word clever.
 Things just seem clever to me because I'm not.
 Easy enough to find the proper address of the .rm file (I think you
 mean as opposed to the .ram 'presentation' file?)
 e.g. http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/DMAY_kiss.rm


 The actual direct link to the 11.8 Mbyte .rm file for the
 KISS mix is

 http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/derrickmay_kiss.rm

 The direct link to the 29.4 Mbyte .rm file for the
 Sunday Service mix is

 http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/
 Derrick%20May%20Pure%20The%20Sunday%20Service%201993.rm

 (In case that got automatically line-broken, you may have to
  cut'n'paste)

 but then how do you download? (you'll have to spell it out for a
 non-clever like me)


 [10:06] nightowl:~/Desktop % uname -a
 Darwin nightowl 7.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17
 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh
 powerpc

 [10:06] nightowl:~/Desktop % curl -O
 http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/derrickmay_kiss.rm;
 % Total  % Received % Xferd  Average Speed  Time   Curr.
  Dload  Upload TotalCurrent  Left  Speed
 100 11.8M 100 11.8M  0   0   437k 0  0:00:27  0:00:27  0:00:00  438k

 Everything's easier on a Macintosh  :-)

 Actually what I meant by 'you need clever software or a cleverly
 set up PC to download or rip' was even after you've downloaded
 (the bit I find I can't do) you either need something like
 Streamripper to get it out of the .rm format or a PC that can
 store as .wav, .mp3, whatever, anything you play on it.


 MPlayer will do it.  There's a beta release for Windoze at

 http://ftp5.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/releases/win32-beta/

 It's very easy to transcode Real streams to something else in
 MPlayer from the UNIX command line (Macs, Linux boxes, Solaris
 et al.) but I've no idea how you'd do it in Windoze ...

 - Greg

 P.S. To any Mac users, it looks like Real released a new version
  (v325) of RealPlayer 10.0.0 (a new RealPlayer10GOLD.dmg
  disc image) ...



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Re: FW: (313) woooah, hold on a second,

2005-03-02 Thread Simon Kong



David Gillies wrote:

There's heaps of 313'ers who use Soul Seek. That could be cool. or
perhaps a bit torrent?




  ta ha '

  yes . but how exactly do a I make it available to you through those
  networks .

  I need to go away and do my homework ' I have slsk on my mac . but
  not the bit torrent ..

  basically have stopped using them cause it's boredom and awfully more'ish

  / also is it true that slsk has stopped giving out usernames !







Re: FW: (313) woooah, hold on a second,

2005-03-02 Thread James_Bucknell




simon
place the mp3 in your soulseek download/upload folde, tell the list the
name of the file or your user id and what p2p to use (soulseek) and that
should be all there is to it.
james
www.jbucknell.com



   
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   second, 
   
   
   
   
   
   






David Gillies wrote:
 There's heaps of 313'ers who use Soul Seek. That could be cool. or
 perhaps a bit torrent?



   ta ha '

   yes . but how exactly do a I make it available to you through those
   networks .

   I need to go away and do my homework ' I have slsk on my mac . but
   not the bit torrent ..

   basically have stopped using them cause it's boredom and awfully
more'ish

   / also is it true that slsk has stopped giving out usernames !






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Re: FW: (313) woooah, hold on a second,

2005-03-02 Thread David Gillies
On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 17:11 +1300, Simon Kong wrote:
 
 David Gillies wrote:
  There's heaps of 313'ers who use Soul Seek. That could be cool. or
  perhaps a bit torrent?
  
   
yes . but how exactly do a I make it available to you through those
networks .

For slsk, you'll just need to have your slsk client open and have the
file sitting in your shared music folder. Then either people can search
for the file name or find your name on slsk and grab the file that way

For bittorrent, you can use something like Azureus
(http://azureus.sf.net) to create a new torrent, then publish the
torrent file up on a bit torrent tracker site. I have a tracker setup on
my server that can be used for this purpose.

The good part of bit torrent is that as long as someone sticks around to
seed the file, you don't necessarily have to be the only one sharing it
out the whole time.

I need to go away and do my homework ' I have slsk on my mac . but
not the bit torrent ..
 
basically have stopped using them cause it's boredom and awfully more'ish
 
/ also is it true that slsk has stopped giving out usernames !

Not sure. i haven't used slsk for a while.



Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second,

2005-03-02 Thread Joost P
In case anyone's still interested, I've made mp3's of the Derrick may 
and Larry Levan Kiss Fm broadcasts. I'm on soulseek with the username 
mewdeeman


I'm not sure if it's going to work though, since I'm behind a firewall 
and on a mac using solarseek.

Just let me know in case it doesn't.


Joost


On 2 Mar, 2005, at 5:21 AM, David Gillies wrote:


On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 17:11 +1300, Simon Kong wrote:


David Gillies wrote:

There's heaps of 313'ers who use Soul Seek. That could be cool. or
perhaps a bit torrent?



   yes . but how exactly do a I make it available to you through those
   networks .


For slsk, you'll just need to have your slsk client open and have the
file sitting in your shared music folder. Then either people can search
for the file name or find your name on slsk and grab the file that way

For bittorrent, you can use something like Azureus
(http://azureus.sf.net) to create a new torrent, then publish the
torrent file up on a bit torrent tracker site. I have a tracker setup 
on

my server that can be used for this purpose.

The good part of bit torrent is that as long as someone sticks around 
to

seed the file, you don't necessarily have to be the only one sharing it
out the whole time.


   I need to go away and do my homework ' I have slsk on my mac . but
   not the bit torrent ..

   basically have stopped using them cause it's boredom and awfully 
more'ish


   / also is it true that slsk has stopped giving out usernames !


Not sure. i haven't used slsk for a while.





Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second, *for os x hax0rs and new windows rippers

2005-03-02 Thread David Smith
Solarseek is old news, please do yourself a favor and get ssX for os 
10.3 @ http://chris.schleifer.net/ssX/


also for you interested windows users who want to convert rm to mp3, 
the easiest way i know is to use streamboxripper, full verrsion is at: 
http://www.streamboxripper.tk/


 and you all are welcome to post in smaller rooms such as the 313 or 
Livesets rooms on soulseek...



On Mar 2, 2005, at 11:01, Joost P wrote:

In case anyone's still interested, I've made mp3's of the Derrick may 
and Larry Levan Kiss Fm broadcasts. I'm on soulseek with the username 
mewdeeman


I'm not sure if it's going to work though, since I'm behind a firewall 
and on a mac using solarseek.

Just let me know in case it doesn't.


Joost


On 2 Mar, 2005, at 5:21 AM, David Gillies wrote:


On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 17:11 +1300, Simon Kong wrote:


David Gillies wrote:

There's heaps of 313'ers who use Soul Seek. That could be cool. or
perhaps a bit torrent?



   yes . but how exactly do a I make it available to you through 
those

   networks .


For slsk, you'll just need to have your slsk client open and have the
file sitting in your shared music folder. Then either people can 
search

for the file name or find your name on slsk and grab the file that way

For bittorrent, you can use something like Azureus
(http://azureus.sf.net) to create a new torrent, then publish the
torrent file up on a bit torrent tracker site. I have a tracker setup 
on

my server that can be used for this purpose.

The good part of bit torrent is that as long as someone sticks around 
to
seed the file, you don't necessarily have to be the only one sharing 
it

out the whole time.


   I need to go away and do my homework ' I have slsk on my mac . but
   not the bit torrent ..

   basically have stopped using them cause it's boredom and awfully 
more'ish


   / also is it true that slsk has stopped giving out usernames !


Not sure. i haven't used slsk for a while.







Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second, *for os x hax0rs and new windows rippers

2005-03-02 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Is ssX better or just newer? Is it as good as nicotine which I can run 
on my OS X boxes anyway?


On Mar 2, 2005, at 12:08, David Smith wrote:

Solarseek is old news, please do yourself a favor and get ssX for os 
10.3 @ http://chris.schleifer.net/ssX/

--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second, *for os x hax0rs and new windows rippers

2005-03-02 Thread David Smith
as a former nicotine user, ssX is newer and better.  1-it is updated on 
a weekly basis on average in the builds directory, and its native to os 
x.  The only feature that is missing is remembering a search like in 
nicotine, and the things i like feature.  It is alot nicer on the eyes, 
i have my windows transparent black.  It is also very easy to install.  
I prefer it over any other version including the pc.  A downside to 
nicotine is that the programer is working on museek for linux and not 
on nicotine.



On Mar 2, 2005, at 12:12, Matt Kane's Brain wrote:

Is ssX better or just newer? Is it as good as nicotine which I can run 
on my OS X boxes anyway?


On Mar 2, 2005, at 12:08, David Smith wrote:

Solarseek is old news, please do yourself a favor and get ssX for os 
10.3 @ http://chris.schleifer.net/ssX/

--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





RE: (313) woooah, hold on a second (literally)

2005-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cos I can now do it all non realplayer, non realtime and on a PC
Putting the bits and pieces others have provided together:
(for us non Mac users that is, looks like lots of solutions for those with
are being discussed)
Go to the Faith (or whatever page)
Right click the link, save target as, save it wherever (eg. desktop)
This gets a 50ish byte .ram file
Right click again and open with say notepad
There's the URL of the actual audio
Paste this into a page of HTML (if you don't have Frontpage or Dreamweaver
or whatever you can use Word as an HTML editor)
Either preview the page you've made or save it and open with Explorer (or
whatever)
Now right click the link you've made and again save target as, save it
wherever
Now you have the actual (presumably several Mb of) audio (I know this is the
process Robin described but I needed it really spelling out)
However it's still a .rm or .ram file
Now you can use Slmon's http://www.jummpa.com/fredown2.htm to convert it
(this last is the only part of the process I haven't tried yet as it's still
downloading (very slow) and I'll want to back my machine up before I install
it.



Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some Derrick May mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread robin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

if anyone works out how to download them, let me know. I can't hear them.




these play in realplayer
you need clever software or a cleverly set up PC not download or rip them




well not that clever francis. just dl the file that is linked of the 
button and then read it. that's the address of the full .rm file


plug that into your browser or use 'wget'

robin...


RE: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some Derrick May mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread alex . bond

you need clever software or a cleverly set up PC not download or rip them

well that rules me out then.

I doubt this pc is clever if its got me in charge of it. Infact, I'm
surprised it can count to ten quite frankly.
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Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some DerrickMay mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread De Block, Mario
is there anyway to remodel a rm file into an mp3 one? because i dearly hate .rm
files and all that for obvious car audio compatibility reasons ;)

robin schreef:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 if anyone works out how to download them, let me know. I can't hear them.
 
 
 
  these play in realplayer
  you need clever software or a cleverly set up PC not download or rip them
 
 

 well not that clever francis. just dl the file that is linked of the
 button and then read it. that's the address of the full .rm file

 plug that into your browser or use 'wget'

 robin...



Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some DerrickMay mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread robin

De Block, Mario wrote:

is there anyway to remodel a rm file into an mp3 one? because i dearly hate .rm
files and all that for obvious car audio compatibility reasons ;)



you need a stream ripper like...um totalrecorder i think (someone is 
bound to suggest another one)


never use em even tho i share your dislike of the realaudio format

robin...




Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some DerrickMay mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread alex . bond

is there anyway to remodel a rm file into an mp3 one? because i dearly
hate .rm
files and all that for obvious car audio compatibility reasons ;)

hmm, dunno the answer to that Mario.

can you open .rm in say soundforge or cooledit or something do you know?
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Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some DerrickMay mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread Pascoe Mr S M

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

is there anyway to remodel a rm file into an mp3 one? 



This looks like it will convert it for you (haven't tried it myself mind);

http://www.jummpa.com/fredown2.htm

Cheers,

sImon

 






RE: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some DerrickMay mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread alex . bond

Hmm.

This Derrick May on Kiss early 90's is an interview too!

it's alright as well!

he's talking about the early 80's electronic music he liked, and how juan
put him on to most of it and stuff.

good. he says juan put him onto KleinMBO.

more exciting insights later.

cough cough
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FW: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some Derrick May mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 well not that clever francis. just dl the file that is linked 
 of the button and then read it. that's the address of the 
 full .rm file

OK I was setting myself up using the word clever.
Things just seem clever to me because I'm not.
Easy enough to find the proper address of the .rm file (I think you mean as
opposed to the .ram 'presentation' file?)
eg. http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/DMAY_kiss.rm
but then how do you download? (you'll have to spell it out for a non-clever
like me)
Actually what I meant by 'you need clever software or a cleverly set up PC
to download or rip'
was even after you've downloaded (the bit I find I can't do) you either need
something like Streamripper to get it out of the .rm format or a PC that can
store as .wav, .mp3, whatever, anything you play on it.



Re: FW: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some Derrick May mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread David Beattie
Ive got a download manager installed that recognises
.rm files and asks me if I want to download them - I
tried it for this and it asks me but it wont download
the file (well it downloads something but only
about 1K and ive tried a few of the mixes from that
site)

Cheers
BT

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  well not that clever francis. just dl the file
 that is linked 
  of the button and then read it. that's the address
 of the 
  full .rm file
 
 OK I was setting myself up using the word clever.
 Things just seem clever to me because I'm not.
 Easy enough to find the proper address of the .rm
 file (I think you mean as
 opposed to the .ram 'presentation' file?)
 eg. http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/DMAY_kiss.rm
 but then how do you download? (you'll have to spell
 it out for a non-clever
 like me)
 Actually what I meant by 'you need clever software
 or a cleverly set up PC
 to download or rip'
 was even after you've downloaded (the bit I find I
 can't do) you either need
 something like Streamripper to get it out of the .rm
 format or a PC that can
 store as .wav, .mp3, whatever, anything you play on
 it.
 
  


Re: FW: (313) woooah, hold on a second, I think I just found some Derrick May mixes I've not heard before wevvers too

2005-03-01 Thread Greg Earle

On Mar 1, 2005, at 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

well not that clever francis. just dl the file that is linked
of the button and then read it. that's the address of the
full .rm file


OK I was setting myself up using the word clever.
Things just seem clever to me because I'm not.
Easy enough to find the proper address of the .rm file (I think you
mean as opposed to the .ram 'presentation' file?)
e.g. http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/DMAY_kiss.rm


The actual direct link to the 11.8 Mbyte .rm file for the
KISS mix is

http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/derrickmay_kiss.rm

The direct link to the 29.4 Mbyte .rm file for the
Sunday Service mix is

	http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/ 
Derrick%20May%20Pure%20The%20Sunday%20Service%201993.rm


(In case that got automatically line-broken, you may have to
 cut'n'paste)


but then how do you download? (you'll have to spell it out for a
non-clever like me)


[10:06] nightowl:~/Desktop % uname -a
Darwin nightowl 7.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17
PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh
powerpc

[10:06] nightowl:~/Desktop % curl -O  
http://www.faithfanzine.com/mixes/derrickmay_kiss.rm;

% Total  % Received % Xferd  Average Speed  Time   Curr.
 Dload  Upload TotalCurrent  Left  Speed
100 11.8M 100 11.8M  0   0   437k 0  0:00:27  0:00:27  0:00:00  438k

Everything's easier on a Macintosh  :-)


Actually what I meant by 'you need clever software or a cleverly
set up PC to download or rip' was even after you've downloaded
(the bit I find I can't do) you either need something like
Streamripper to get it out of the .rm format or a PC that can
store as .wav, .mp3, whatever, anything you play on it.


MPlayer will do it.  There's a beta release for Windoze at

http://ftp5.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/releases/win32-beta/

It's very easy to transcode Real streams to something else in
MPlayer from the UNIX command line (Macs, Linux boxes, Solaris
et al.) but I've no idea how you'd do it in Windoze ...

- Greg

P.S. To any Mac users, it looks like Real released a new version
 (v325) of RealPlayer 10.0.0 (a new RealPlayer10GOLD.dmg
 disc image) ...