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2. He was impressed by the new Pioneer decks, except that the wheels don't spin. ?? Isn't that sort of a basic requirement for a turntable? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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it's a bizar tool never seen this before done by any machine accept the sl's Mad'R - Original Message - From: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [313] FinalScratch package price > 2. He was impressed by the new Pioneer decks, except that the wheels don't >spin. , e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Disco D played here saturday (and he REALLY tore it up, by the way) and we talked a bit about all this new DJ technology. He had a couple of things to say about Final Scratch and the new Pioneer decks: 1. You can't actually scratch on Final Scratch. At least not battle scratching. 2. He was impressed by the new Pioneer decks, except that the wheels don't spin. As an engineer I think there are some real problems with the whole final scratch paradigm. First and foremost, the vinyl disks are as vulnerable as 'real' records to wear and scratches. Even more so, since you presumably use the same 2 discs through your whole set. Someone who plays out with Final Scratch every night would put 100 times more wear on the poor things than they ever put on their records. I imagine that Hawtin and Aquaviva get whatever they need without paying for it, since they're official poster boys for the product. Then, there's the whole BEOS thing -- definitely a weak link. The reason they used BEOS is that when they began development it was the only way to get really low latency audio. Even as much as 10 milleseconds of latency is enough to throw a DJ off. Hell, having the monitors more than 5 feet away introduces enough latency to throw you off. If one were really going to do it right, you'd need a whole user interface -- dual spinning platters, cross fader, and pitch controls. What makes DJ-ing with vinyl such a natural gesture is the immediate tactile and auditory feedback. When you drag your finger on the label, you feel and hear the slowdown. When you rock the record over a beat, you hear it in your headphones with a negigible delay. That's why the people who developed Final Scratch spent several years developing it -- they couldn't improve on the paradigm.. Ultimately, though, it's way to expensive for most DJs, and I can't see it persisting in it's current form for very long. I don't know if people realize what a perceptual feat DJing is. Just getting two records well and truly matched is quite a trick. You can hear two records flamming as soon as they're 10 milleseconds apart. At 130 BPM, each 4 beat bar takes 1.846 seconds. If you match two records within a millesecond per bar, they'll start flamming within 10 bars, and trainwreck by 32 bars. That means DJs who can lock up two records are correcting tempo variations as small as .05 percent! That's one thing that always annoys me when I DJ with CDs -- the tempo slider resolution is way too coarse, and if you want to hold a mix you have to correct it every few measures. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Fixer wrote: > I should have left it at "What are you talking about?" and not made the > assumption > I did, but that is where my mind went with your comment. Apologies. > > You made an allusion to someone who should be getting paid from the Final > Scratch developers? I mentioned Curt Flood in my first email. Curt Flood was the first American professional athlete that had the rights to himself (the first "free agent"). Before Flood...the teams had the right to buy and sell players as they chose and they didn't have say so at all. After Flood, players were able to sell themselves as prices the market could bear. Shaquille O'Neal's $100 million contract couldn't have happened without Flood. If every professional athlete in an American market had to pay a tax to some type of institution bearing Flood's name...I think that would be cool. Similarly speaking, I thought it'd be cool if the creators of equipment that come out of DJ culture (Pioneer's CDJ equipment was made for the dj/turntablist for example and couldn't have existed without a culture in which scratching was an "artform") would have to pay some type of tax not so much to a single individual (grandmaster flash for example) but rather to some type of institution. This is what I was getting at. Not that the makers of Final Scratch were theives peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I should have left it at "What are you talking about?" and not made the assumption I did, but that is where my mind went with your comment. Apologies. You made an allusion to someone who should be getting paid from the Final Scratch developers? At 15:56 02/11/2001 -0500, Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Fixer wrote: > Well then, what are you talking about? The Dutch(?) fellas who are releasing > Final Scratch stole or "reverse engineered" someone else's software to > develop theirs? This is the first claim of this I have heard, so please > enlighten us. Fixer could you read my post again and tell me where you got the idea that I was accusing the creators of Final Scratch of theft? peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Fixer wrote: > Well then, what are you talking about? The Dutch(?) fellas who are releasing > Final Scratch stole or "reverse engineered" someone else's software to > develop theirs? This is the first claim of this I have heard, so please > enlighten us. Fixer could you read my post again and tell me where you got the idea that I was accusing the creators of Final Scratch of theft? peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well then, what are you talking about? The Dutch(?) fellas who are releasing Final Scratch stole or "reverse engineered" someone else's software to develop theirs? This is the first claim of this I have heard, so please enlighten us. At 14:06 02/11/2001 -0500, Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: I'm not talking about the person that invented the phonograph...nor am I talking about the inventor of the turntable. thanks lks -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, mkb wrote: > At 06:48 PM 11/1/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >If Shaquille O'Neal had to pay a Curt Flood tax either to Flood or to an > >institution Flood supported i think the world would be a much different > >place. If the creators of Final Scratch had to pay a Flash tax to either > >Grandmaster Flash or an institution...the world would be much different. > > That's called a patent. > > The guy who invented the phonograph died a LONG time ago, so that patent is > pretty expired by now. Even the turntable's patent is probably long since > expired. I'm not talking about the person that invented the phonograph...nor am I talking about the inventor of the turntable. thanks lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> You can run beos and windows on the same system.. On mac it used to come > with a little application you run that boots the system into beos. Too bad > beos has not that many apps but its pretty nice to use. only "finalscratch pro" will run on BeOS. The commercial version, according to the email N2IT sent out a couple days ago, will run on linux. i can forward the email if anyone's interested. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 06:48 PM 11/1/2001 -0500, you wrote: If Shaquille O'Neal had to pay a Curt Flood tax either to Flood or to an institution Flood supported i think the world would be a much different place. If the creators of Final Scratch had to pay a Flash tax to either Grandmaster Flash or an institution...the world would be much different. That's called a patent. The guy who invented the phonograph died a LONG time ago, so that patent is pretty expired by now. Even the turntable's patent is probably long since expired. -- Cafard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] qu'est-ce que tu penses? AIM:pr0j2501 Matt Kane's Brain http://mkb.n3.net ===jive turkey http://jive-turkey.n3.net=== - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, atomly wrote: > [Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > as a sidenote wouldn't it be cool if the people who made final scratch and > > other dj equipment actually had to pay a royalty to the artists > > responsible for the original technology? > > No. > If Shaquille O'Neal had to pay a Curt Flood tax either to Flood or to an institution Flood supported i think the world would be a much different place. If the creators of Final Scratch had to pay a Flash tax to either Grandmaster Flash or an institution...the world would be much different. Better too. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > as a sidenote wouldn't it be cool if the people who made final scratch and > other dj equipment actually had to pay a royalty to the artists > responsible for the original technology? No. -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com/ | 877.741.3571 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Jake wrote: > You can run beos and windows on the same system.. On mac it used to come > with a little application you run that boots the system into beos. Too bad > beos has not that many apps but its pretty nice to use. So what I'm trying to figure out then is how the cdj-1000 (panasonic i think?) compares at just under 2 grand. The cdj is a cd player that can ACT like a turntable (does this really well mind you) and stores some 1000 cue pointsbut you'd have to buy TWO of those. as a sidenote wouldn't it be cool if the people who made final scratch and other dj equipment actually had to pay a royalty to the artists responsible for the original technology? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You can run beos and windows on the same system.. On mac it used to come with a little application you run that boots the system into beos. Too bad beos has not that many apps but its pretty nice to use. on 11/1/01 2:27 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Eric Scuccimarra wrote: > >> You can't just get the software. You also need a little box that connects >> the turntables to the laptop. >> >> It's not available yet but the expected cost is about $500... > > That's IT?? > > I already have a sony laptop but it is running windows...i wonder if i'd > have to scrap the os and install the new one? > > > peace > lks > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Eric Scuccimarra wrote: > You can't just get the software. You also need a little box that connects > the turntables to the laptop. > > It's not available yet but the expected cost is about $500... That's IT?? I already have a sony laptop but it is running windows...i wonder if i'd have to scrap the os and install the new one? peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thursday, November 1, 2001, at 12:07 PM, Jayson B. wrote: one of the most amazing things about the beos is its natural audio latency time. STANDARD this OS spits out audio at THREE MILLISECONDS. 3 ms. Think about that one more time. That means the ONLY time a dj is going to really noticed any latency is when he's doing some heavy scratching, and minute at best. When you look at windows with its 35ms on a great day latency, you see why this system needs to be run on be os. Anyone have any specs on Mac OS X? I've heard from propaganda (http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/audio.html) that audio throughput latency on OS X is as low as 1ms. To quote: "The Core Audio HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) provides ultra low latency communication between applications and I/O devices that is measurably more efficient than previous solutions. M-Audio reports latency as low as 40 samples on Mac OS X from the company’s audio interfaces. That translates into 1ms throughput latency — and you get this performance in a full multi-channel environment." Unfortunately there are no pro audio apps out for Mac OS X to test this with. If this is true, I would think that it makes more sense to release Final Scratch on Mac OS X rather than BeOS... g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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somewhere between $500 and $800. james Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/01/2001 02:44:00 PM To: Glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 313@hyperreal.org (bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] FinalScratch package price how much is the software without the laptop? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You can't just get the software. You also need a little box that connects the turntables to the laptop. It's not available yet but the expected cost is about $500... At 02:44 PM 11/1/2001 -0500, Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: how much is the software without the laptop? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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how much is the software without the laptop? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, James Bucknell wrote: > final stratch requires a minimun speed of 500mgz. none of the macs pre > g3/4 have that speed. so using beos 4.5 on a mac won't help. Megahertz as the sole measure of a processor is a myth. If it was compiled for G3/G4-era powerPC chips, it would probably smoke a 500 Mhz Pentium on a 300-400 MHz G3/G4. But you're definitly right in thinking a 90 MHz beigebox powerPC is not going to cut it. -Beau ...834U.8U5K3..http://www.0x00 ..hyperreal.org/~beau..[+3!*..0x00 __end - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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final stratch requires a minimun speed of 500mgz. none of the macs pre g3/4 have that speed. so using beos 4.5 on a mac won't help. james www.jbucknell.com "JL Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/01/2001 12:37:49 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] FinalScratch package price Not to rustle up any OS wars, I can now understand why it was done in BeOS. BeOS is very adept at manipulating digital media and was designed as such from the ground up.. BeOS 4.5 and below were made for the Macintosh (PPC) as well as Intel based PC's If FinalScratch will run on BeOS 4.5, then you should be able to use it on a Mac (older ones not the G3/4 Macs) for more info on BeOS, plus any corrections to any info that i didn't get correct, go to www.be.com thank you Jim J. - Original Message - From: "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ploegmakers Joost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:56 AM Subject: RE: [313] FinalScratch package price > > > according to richie (at the press conference in new york) it is being ported for > mac os. > james - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The real problem with porting to Windows and Mac is apparently that they can't get at the USB device they use at a low enough level to get the latency they want... If you have 35ms audio latency and the same in latency from the record to the machine, you're definitely in noticeable territory. -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com/ | 877.741.3571 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 12:07 PM 11/1/2001, Jayson B. wrote: Damn that's wack...no Mac Version as joost says, the beos DOES run on a mac. so no, finalscratch doesn't run on the mac os. BeOS hasn't run on macs for a long long time. The BeBoxen used to be powerpc boxes and beos ran on macs cause they had the same cpu, but when apple was tanking they jumped to x86 and haven't looked back. Besides, running beos on powerpc to run final scratch wouldnt hardly be a 'mac version'. Even if BeOS did run on a mac though, final scratch won't, unless they specifically release powerpc-beos binaries (yeah right). All this is moot though, nobody but bald geeks with weird glasses will run beos on their laptop just for final scratch anyways. However, to be honest, you don't want to run this system under windows or mac os ANYWAYS. one of the most amazing things about the beos is its natural audio latency time. STANDARD this OS spits out audio at THREE MILLISECONDS. 3 ms. Think about that one more time. That means the ONLY time a dj is going to really noticed any latency is when he's doing some heavy scratching, and minute at best. When you look at windows with its 35ms on a great day latency, you see why this system needs to be run on be os. a) it's not that amazing b) it's not unique to beos c) 35msec latency is approaching noticible, but for djing purposes, wouldn't affect anyone except those doing lots of scratching. Besides, with a program specifically written to be a realtime application, it would much likely be a half to a third of that, which is virtually unnoticable. this is possible on both macos and all versions of windows. -j Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] (877) 748 3467 ICQ: 14295546 AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not to rustle up any OS wars, I can now understand why it was done in BeOS. BeOS is very adept at manipulating digital media and was designed as such from the ground up.. BeOS 4.5 and below were made for the Macintosh (PPC) as well as Intel based PC's If FinalScratch will run on BeOS 4.5, then you should be able to use it on a Mac (older ones not the G3/4 Macs) for more info on BeOS, plus any corrections to any info that i didn't get correct, go to www.be.com thank you Jim J. - Original Message - From: "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ploegmakers Joost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:56 AM Subject: RE: [313] FinalScratch package price > > > according to richie (at the press conference in new york) it is being ported for > mac os. > james - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's truly too bad the BEOS got bought out by Palm, especially since all Palm plans to do with BEOS is let it sit and rot. They only bought it to destroy any competition that BEOS might have been to their Palm OS in the embedded market. Who knows how the BEOS market will turn out? I hope for the best. Cheers todd Quoting "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >Damn that's wack...no Mac Version > > > as joost says, the beos DOES run on a mac. so no, finalscratch doesn't run > > on the mac os. > > > However, to be honest, you don't want to run this system under windows or > mac os ANYWAYS. > > > one of the most amazing things about the beos is its natural audio latency > time. STANDARD this OS spits out audio at THREE MILLISECONDS. 3 ms. Think > > about that one more time. That means the ONLY time a dj is going to really > > noticed any latency is when he's doing some heavy scratching, and minute at > > best. When you look at windows with its 35ms on a great day latency, you > see why this system needs to be run on be os. > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Damn that's wack...no Mac Version as joost says, the beos DOES run on a mac. so no, finalscratch doesn't run on the mac os. However, to be honest, you don't want to run this system under windows or mac os ANYWAYS. one of the most amazing things about the beos is its natural audio latency time. STANDARD this OS spits out audio at THREE MILLISECONDS. 3 ms. Think about that one more time. That means the ONLY time a dj is going to really noticed any latency is when he's doing some heavy scratching, and minute at best. When you look at windows with its 35ms on a great day latency, you see why this system needs to be run on be os. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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according to richie (at the press conference in new york) it is being ported for mac os. james www.jbucknel.com "Ploegmakers, Joost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/01/2001 03:37:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: RE: [313] FinalScratch package price Well, yes and no, This pro version obviously comes with a laptop, but runs on Beos. Beos also runs on Mac. So from what I understand Finalscratch should be able to run on a mac. But it doesn't run on Mac OS, no. Joost -Original Message- From: Glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 1 november 2001 00:10 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FinalScratch package price Damn that's wack...no Mac Version glyph. M Elliot-Knight wrote: > This is from an email directly from n2it that I got about > FinalScratch... this version is $2,999.00 so that little Spin feature > on DJ equipment was correct (if you buy this verison). Check the added > feature that Richie and John have added to the package. > > MEK > > > As part of this limited iiPROFSlo we will offer a completely con gured, > ready-to-use and ready-to-go system that consists of the > following components: > + FINALSCRATCH software package > + ScratchAmp signal processor > + Three FINALSCRATCH records > + Two FINALSCRATCH slipmats > + Audio and USB cables > + Installation and User's Manual > + Sony Vaio or similar laptop loaded with a dual boot system of BeOS > and Windows > + After sales service, maintenance and e-mail support > FINALSCRATCH will come already loaded and ready to play with selected > tracks from the catalogue of Plus 8 and De nitive > Records. You can then just load and `rip' your own music les and go from > there. > The price for the complete PROFS is USD 2,999.00 excluding shipping, > handling and taxes. > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, yes and no, This pro version obviously comes with a laptop, but runs on Beos. Beos also runs on Mac. So from what I understand Finalscratch should be able to run on a mac. But it doesn't run on Mac OS, no. Joost -Original Message- From: Glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 1 november 2001 00:10 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FinalScratch package price Damn that's wack...no Mac Version glyph. M Elliot-Knight wrote: > This is from an email directly from n2it that I got about > FinalScratch... this version is $2,999.00 so that little Spin feature > on DJ equipment was correct (if you buy this verison). Check the added > feature that Richie and John have added to the package. > > MEK > > > As part of this limited iiPROFSlo we will offer a completely congured, > ready-to-use and ready-to-go system that consists of the > following components: > + FINALSCRATCH software package > + ScratchAmp signal processor > + Three FINALSCRATCH records > + Two FINALSCRATCH slipmats > + Audio and USB cables > + Installation and User's Manual > + Sony Vaio or similar laptop loaded with a dual boot system of BeOS > and Windows > + After sales service, maintenance and e-mail support > FINALSCRATCH will come already loaded and ready to play with selected > tracks from the catalogue of Plus 8 and Denitive > Records. You can then just load and `rip' your own music les and go from > there. > The price for the complete PROFS is USD 2,999.00 excluding shipping, > handling and taxes. > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Damn that's wack...no Mac Version glyph. M Elliot-Knight wrote: This is from an email directly from n2it that I got about FinalScratch... this version is $2,999.00 so that little Spin feature on DJ equipment was correct (if you buy this verison). Check the added feature that Richie and John have added to the package. MEK As part of this limited iiPROFSlo we will offer a completely congured, ready-to-use and ready-to-go system that consists of the following components: + FINALSCRATCH software package + ScratchAmp signal processor + Three FINALSCRATCH records + Two FINALSCRATCH slipmats + Audio and USB cables + Installation and User's Manual + Sony Vaio or similar laptop loaded with a dual boot system of BeOS and Windows + After sales service, maintenance and e-mail support FINALSCRATCH will come already loaded and ready to play with selected tracks from the catalogue of Plus 8 and Denitive Records. You can then just load and `rip' your own music les and go from there. The price for the complete PROFS is USD 2,999.00 excluding shipping, handling and taxes. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FinalScratch package price
This is from an email directly from n2it that I got about FinalScratch... this version is $2,999.00 so that little Spin feature on DJ equipment was correct (if you buy this verison). Check the added feature that Richie and John have added to the package. MEK As part of this limited iiPROFSlo we will offer a completely congured, ready-to-use and ready-to-go system that consists of the following components: + FINALSCRATCH software package + ScratchAmp signal processor + Three FINALSCRATCH records + Two FINALSCRATCH slipmats + Audio and USB cables + Installation and User's Manual + Sony Vaio or similar laptop loaded with a dual boot system of BeOS and Windows + After sales service, maintenance and e-mail support FINALSCRATCH will come already loaded and ready to play with selected tracks from the catalogue of Plus 8 and Denitive Records. You can then just load and `rip' your own music les and go from there. The price for the complete PROFS is USD 2,999.00 excluding shipping, handling and taxes. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
