[313] "Jaguar" Video
You can find it on CD ROM video, on Part 2 of the 430 West CD single version (430WUKTCD2), which also has the May & Octave One remixes. Well worth seeking out. On Thu, 9 May 2002, Giles Dickerson wrote: > What kind of visual representation did Jaguar get, was there an official > video? > > - Giles > > D I G I T A S // B O S T O N > -- > Giles Dickerson > Art Director > 800 Boylston Street > Boston, MA > 02199 > -- > mobile 617 899 9635 > office 617 369 8601 > > > -- > > From: Tim Maughan > > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2002 12:39 PM > > To: Giles Dickerson; Tom Robbins/Magic Feet; 313 mailing list > > Subject:Re: [313] OT: Fw: Fischerspooner live in the UK > > > > > > hahah:0 what you got to understand is that MTv over here is slightly > > different to the US. we've got a lot of different MTV channels and I think a > > bit more variety of music. "jaguar" got some pretty heavy rotation over here > > when it was first released, as is GV's "la la land" at the moment - as well > > as that awesome Roni Size/Cypress Hill track. A few months ago even Funk > > D'void's "bass Invaders" was getting played. > > > > And anyways, just a few days ago wasn't Mr Sean Deason saying he was getting > > some of those MTV dollars;) > > > > > > > > on 9/5/02 5:30 pm, Giles Dickerson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > That's your fault for watching MTV :) > > > > > > - Giles > > > > > > D I G I T A S // B O S T O N > > > -- > > > Giles Dickerson > > > Art Director > > > 800 Boylston Street > > > Boston, MA > > > 02199 > > > -- > > > mobile 617 899 9635 > > > office 617 369 8601 > > > > > >> -- > > >> From: Tim Maughan > > >> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2002 12:21 PM > > >> To: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet; 313 mailing list > > >> Subject: Re: [313] OT: Fw: Fischerspooner live in the UK > > >> > > >> on 9/5/02 1:27 pm, Tom Robbins/Magic Feet at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> "Like Siegfried & Roy meets a drunken > > >>> Cirque de Soleil. > > >> > > >> no, they actually sound WORSE than that. that single of theres was on MTV > > >> last night, god it was f**k awful. > > >> > > >> > > >> - > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Jaguar video
there are three different cd's that feature Jaguar as far as i'm concerned. there's probably even more than that but the ones i do know about are: yellow-original, mills, lawrence burden edit blue-original, mills, octave one, ur tracks, banks blue-original, may remix, video From: "Stewart Caig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] Jaguar video Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:00:22 +0100 Hi Does anyone know if the Rolando Jaguar video is available to view online anywhere? I understand it came as a CD ROM on the CD, but I must have got mine before they shot it as its not on it. Cheers Stewart www.worldtechnonation.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Jaguar video
Hi Does anyone know if the Rolando Jaguar video is available to view online anywhere? I understand it came as a CD ROM on the CD, but I must have got mine before they shot it as its not on it. Cheers Stewart www.worldtechnonation.com
jaguar video (borderline spam)
hi everyone, because *so many* people have asked me about this, i'm posting and hoping nobody flames me for spam. we got the jaguar cd with the octave one remix, derrick may remix, and the video in cd rom form. you can order it through the record time site. ani record time [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.recordtime.com ph 810.775.1550 fax 810.775.5830 icq# 33610265 want to be on the record time mailing list? send an email message from the address you want to subscribe with "subscribe" in the subject
Jaguar Video
Can anyone tell me where an Australian could find the intriguing Knights video? Thanks, Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
USvs.THEM?? (was Re: Jaguar Video)
Hi list, this thread is starting to annoy me..the part concerning us (313'ers) and them (rest of the world). I don't think we have any right to consider us some sort of illuminated caste, as being culturally advanced because we choose to listen to so-called underground music. People are entitled to listen to whatever they feel, and this choice should'nt categorize as being poor shallow souls who accept whatever the man throws out to them. I mean, if most of the mainstream people heard what we were listening to they would probably say the same thing..there is no VERB to spread to the masses. To each his own, and if you like cheesy trance it ONLY means we'll never go clubbing together. bye sorry for the rant, but im still in the office and not too happy bout it! ;-) fab || Web Developer || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || www.deepend.it || "If we never looked at things and thought what they might be, we'd still be in the tall grass with the apes." Deepend Roma s.r.l. Via C.A. Racchia, 4 - 00195 Roma - ITALY T +39 06 37 51 23 58 F +39 06 37 51 23 26
Re: Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video
This thread has been full of some interesting opinions, it actually reminds me of arguments that were made a few years ago when 'electronica' was supposed to blow up and be the next big thing. Remember all the buzz over 'AMP' I think people within the techno community saw it as signs of an invasion. That overnight artists who were dedicated to making unique and innovative music whould suddenly become hypnotized into selling out because of exposure to a mass audience. Jaguar is a great track with lots of emotion, we can all agree on that. I personally think Rolando deserves the exposure, MTV air-play included. Sure some people will love it and some people will not get it (music is after all an artform) the point is those who do like it will hopefully have had their minds opened and want to develop an appreciation for this music. dave pinter
Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video
Most ppl within 10 miles who has heard my techno rekkids hate all of them except my Technasia stuff... No class at all... You have to be a bit more mature I think to understand good music... It comes natural to me but a lot of children are born subnormal in North Yorkshire so they have no hope of enjoying it or understanding it... They're idea of music is single finger key presses and a repetitive bassdrum... This means you Pragnosis... l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What I've found with people who aren't into techno > with Jaguar is most enjoy > it. I've even sent tapes of just random good tracks > to my friends in Florida > and many of them enjoy this track. Some just start > asking questions like > what is this genre. Some think its music to > sophisticated for them. One of > my friends who is really into breaks/trance thought > he "should be drinking a > martini to it". Others just beg to barrow it and > the remixes or even to buy > it of me but of course I refuse. You can't contain > something that is that > good. Yes there will be people who will not respect > the track as many of us > will, but to those who start asking questions > because they heard it and then > grow to respect and love the music we all do thats > great. If they don't > truly like the music than it will pass. They will > listen to it for a while > and then it will make its way back to a stack of cds > that they don't listen > to anymore and they will forget about it. > If I was watching MTV and into that mostly garbage > music I would be glad > someone put Jaguar on it as compared to something by > lets say Sonique or > Alice deejay or one of those trendy producers. > Maybe Jaguar will reach my > brother by way of MTV and he'll stop listening to > the mainstream trash rap or > reach my sister and make her stop being obsessed by > those boy bands and their > music they don't make. As much as I don't like > Jaguar being broadcasted on > MTV I'm not going to complain because there is good > that can come from it. > > -Stacey > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video
What I've found with people who aren't into techno with Jaguar is most enjoy it. I've even sent tapes of just random good tracks to my friends in Florida and many of them enjoy this track. Some just start asking questions like what is this genre. Some think its music to sophisticated for them. One of my friends who is really into breaks/trance thought he "should be drinking a martini to it". Others just beg to barrow it and the remixes or even to buy it of me but of course I refuse. You can't contain something that is that good. Yes there will be people who will not respect the track as many of us will, but to those who start asking questions because they heard it and then grow to respect and love the music we all do thats great. If they don't truly like the music than it will pass. They will listen to it for a while and then it will make its way back to a stack of cds that they don't listen to anymore and they will forget about it. If I was watching MTV and into that mostly garbage music I would be glad someone put Jaguar on it as compared to something by lets say Sonique or Alice deejay or one of those trendy producers. Maybe Jaguar will reach my brother by way of MTV and he'll stop listening to the mainstream trash rap or reach my sister and make her stop being obsessed by those boy bands and their music they don't make. As much as I don't like Jaguar being broadcasted on MTV I'm not going to complain because there is good that can come from it. -Stacey
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just on a subliminal tangent on da video 187 da radio star tip, did anyone see the model500 clip from a couple of years back - the one where juan does tha red october thing, and emerges from the sea in a sexy wetsuit, while some photogenic wannabes playin' da role? just d-typed my memorythe road from detroit to coventry iz a long one. bond.james bond. - Original Message - From: "Nick Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:00 PM Subject: [313] Re: Jaguar Video > Hi, > No sweat about your post. All views are valid... I was > actually the one who posted that ""commercial" music > is what the public is fed, "underground" music we have > to SEEK OUT to find, a need of a certain kind of > people..." thing. > > I have very strong feelings about music... In fact I > share your views in a way. I saw the new Jaguar > release in HMV the other day... Made me kind of upset. > This tune has been an anthem for everything we stand > for, the passion, the power, our love against > commercialism. It stood for everything, when the > remixes came out I was really quite emotional. I seem > to associate charty commercial dance with all the > people I hate and all the things that have hurt me. > There will be kids into trancy cheese going out and > buying this, not understanding exactly what it means > to us... > > l8r, > Nick (Dj Pacific:) > > > after reading my post, i disagree with most of what > > i said too... i wish i > > could take it back, but too many people have read it > > and responded to it, oh > > well. > > > > i guess what i meant to say was i just didn't want > > to see too many of the > > 'wrong' fans in this... i think one of the coolest > > things about going to a > > good techno party or even a good techno club is that > > the majority of the > > people understand it's about the music, and not the > > glory/image/popularity. > > the majority of people who listen to underground > > music have this > > appreciation for the music like no other. > > > > i think Jaguar has the huge potential to bring new > > listeners in of all > > different backgrounds and musical tastes, it has > > something to satisfy > > everybody. i don't think it will necessarily be a > > bad thing to show it on > > TV, but i also don't think it will necessarily be a > > bad thing for it NOT to > > show on TV. i guess that was more of what i was > > trying to say. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Jaguar Video
Hi, No sweat about your post. All views are valid... I was actually the one who posted that ""commercial" music is what the public is fed, "underground" music we have to SEEK OUT to find, a need of a certain kind of people..." thing. I have very strong feelings about music... In fact I share your views in a way. I saw the new Jaguar release in HMV the other day... Made me kind of upset. This tune has been an anthem for everything we stand for, the passion, the power, our love against commercialism. It stood for everything, when the remixes came out I was really quite emotional. I seem to associate charty commercial dance with all the people I hate and all the things that have hurt me. There will be kids into trancy cheese going out and buying this, not understanding exactly what it means to us... l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) > after reading my post, i disagree with most of what > i said too... i wish i > could take it back, but too many people have read it > and responded to it, oh > well. > > i guess what i meant to say was i just didn't want > to see too many of the > 'wrong' fans in this... i think one of the coolest > things about going to a > good techno party or even a good techno club is that > the majority of the > people understand it's about the music, and not the > glory/image/popularity. > the majority of people who listen to underground > music have this > appreciation for the music like no other. > > i think Jaguar has the huge potential to bring new > listeners in of all > different backgrounds and musical tastes, it has > something to satisfy > everybody. i don't think it will necessarily be a > bad thing to show it on > TV, but i also don't think it will necessarily be a > bad thing for it NOT to > show on TV. i guess that was more of what i was > trying to say. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
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> Jaguar Jaguar, all adroit, > Beneath the streets of dread Detroit: > What mere mortal MTV, > Dare frame thy fearful symmetry? > > Wes--with apologies to William Blake ;=) I laughed aloud when I read this... thanks :) e. rautio, also known as pHinn * the webmaster of pHinnWeb - the old skool, the nu skool * * and the pHuture skool of Finnish electronic music * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb * mego (austria) showcase 081100 @ club telex http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/flyers/telex/
Jaguar Video
Jaguar Jaguar, all adroit, Beneath the streets of dread Detroit: What mere mortal MTV, Dare frame thy fearful symmetry? Wes--with apologies to William Blake ;=) On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, davidk wrote: > Too late mate. It's already been on MTV UK & Ireland. > > Dake
Re: [313] Jaguar Video
430 West/UR UK split cd single. The video is the final track on the Mayday Mix, and Octave One version cd. Works a treat too. Just whack it in and sit back--no uploading rigmarole to worry about. On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How can you obtain a copy of this CD ROM? > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [313] Jaguar Video
hi Nick, after reading my post, i disagree with most of what i said too... i wish i could take it back, but too many people have read it and responded to it, oh well. i guess what i meant to say was i just didn't want to see too many of the 'wrong' fans in this... i think one of the coolest things about going to a good techno party or even a good techno club is that the majority of the people understand it's about the music, and not the glory/image/popularity. the majority of people who listen to underground music have this appreciation for the music like no other. i think Jaguar has the huge potential to bring new listeners in of all different backgrounds and musical tastes, it has something to satisfy everybody. i don't think it will necessarily be a bad thing to show it on TV, but i also don't think it will necessarily be a bad thing for it NOT to show on TV. i guess that was more of what i was trying to say. Mike From: Nick Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar Video Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 04:02:03 -0700 (PDT) There's still a lot of good hip hop about. Lots of kids still sit on street corners doing it old school style. In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a mailing list similar to this one but for hip hop out there... The truth of it is that the underground will never die. You can't stop people from making music for the love of it... It's the most primitive form of art, bone whistles came before cave paintings (apparently) l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Michael Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and that's a problem why? > > i don't know, i know we probably don't see eye to > eye on this, but this > music is called underground for a reason, and that's > to keep it OFF the > mainstream channels... any kind of music that blows > up generally loses its > quality. putting on flameproof suit now... > > case in point, rap. i used to love a lot of the rap > that came out (Wu Tang, > Outkast, Death Row, etc.). rap started blowing up > REAL good with No Limit > Records, the ultimate in selling out what rap is all > about. think about it. > > saturation of public channels makes people sick of > the music. media glamor > attracts untalented artists who make crappy, > uninspired, sampled, and/or > bland music. > > trance is a very accessible type of music. i myself > started listening to > trance, until i started searching for something > better. > > someone said on here that mainstream music searches > for you, you search for > underground music. and that's exactly what happened > with me, and that's > exactly what will happen to most true future fans of > the underground sound. > most people who will become fans of techno will find > it sooner or later... > keeps the quality high, and the fans true. > > okay, flame away now. 8o) > > just my $0.01 (does it deserve $0.02?) > Mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] New sounds (was Re: [313] Jaguar Video)
on 10/16/00 10:55 PM, Cyclone Wehner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Tech-Hop at the time, which is an >> exceedingly lame genre name. > > That's what we called this "tech R&B" at first - the Timbaland/Missy > Ellliott end of it. Yes, but with the implied D&B rhythms in Timbaland's stuff, I'd be more inclined to call it "Hip-Step". I'll stop now. -- There4IM
RE: [313] Jaguar Video
> this, but this > music is called underground for a reason, and that's to keep > it OFF the > mainstream channels... any kind of music that blows up > generally loses its > quality. putting on flameproof suit now... I would disagree. Its my feeling that underground just happens to exist as part of how the music was developed. To create music just to be underground seems kind of reactionary, doing the opposite of what you think the mainstream wants. Ignore mainstream, and if something you do happens to get picked up great! Its when music is MADE for the masses that it loses quality, the only way to please everyone is to not say anything, and thats what music made for mainstream tries to do. > case in point, rap. i used to love a lot of the rap that > came out (Wu Tang, > Outkast, Death Row, etc.). rap started blowing up REAL good > with No Limit > Records, the ultimate in selling out what rap is all about. > think about it. There is a lot of good hip-hop out there, not sure if you make a distinction between that and rap, some do, some don't. BUT it still exists, and its still changing. You can't look at the mainstream portion of a genre and think its a direct reflection of the entire thing. > saturation of public channels makes people sick of the music. i hope so, i honestly do. I want to see everyone so sick of the music thats out there now that they actually start making something better. > exactly what will happen to most true future fans of the > underground sound. if there is an "underground sound" then it isn't too diverse or subversive is it? thanks micah
RE: [313] Jaguar Video
sonic youth lost it after dirty -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2000 22:13 To: 'Jan Claeyssens' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] Jaguar Video you forgot to make it detroit related by saying that when UR did their world tour they opened up for Sonic Youth somewheres in Europe and T-1000 was the only one who knew who they were... just wanted to make some 313 conversation :) i am sure someone knows the rest of the details better then me. jeff > -Original Message- > From: Jan Claeyssens [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 4:03 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Jaguar Video > > > > E.G. : Sonic Youth, alltough they're underground and don't make > compromises > they still sell sometimes 500.000 copies worldwide. > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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you forgot to make it detroit related by saying that when UR did their world tour they opened up for Sonic Youth somewheres in Europe and T-1000 was the only one who knew who they were... just wanted to make some 313 conversation :) i am sure someone knows the rest of the details better then me. jeff > -Original Message- > From: Jan Claeyssens [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 4:03 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Jaguar Video > > > > E.G. : Sonic Youth, alltough they're underground and don't make > compromises > they still sell sometimes 500.000 copies worldwide. > >
RE: [313] Jaguar Video
When something can become a hit by accident and not because off a smart mediaplan, why not? Underground does not mean it's forbidden to sell records. Be honest you aim to reach a lot of people, otherwise you have to make music at home and let only your friends listen to it. Or distribute your song trough internet channels only. JayCee. E.G. : Sonic Youth, alltough they're underground and don't make compromises they still sell sometimes 500.000 copies worldwide. -Original Message- From: Michael Kim [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar Video and that's a problem why? i don't know, i know we probably don't see eye to eye on this, but this music is called underground for a reason, and that's to keep it OFF the mainstream channels... any kind of music that blows up generally loses its quality. putting on flameproof suit now... case in point, rap. i used to love a lot of the rap that came out (Wu Tang, Outkast, Death Row, etc.). rap started blowing up REAL good with No Limit Records, the ultimate in selling out what rap is all about. think about it. saturation of public channels makes people sick of the music. media glamor attracts untalented artists who make crappy, uninspired, sampled, and/or bland music. trance is a very accessible type of music. i myself started listening to trance, until i started searching for something better. someone said on here that mainstream music searches for you, you search for underground music. and that's exactly what happened with me, and that's exactly what will happen to most true future fans of the underground sound. most people who will become fans of techno will find it sooner or later... keeps the quality high, and the fans true. okay, flame away now. 8o) just my $0.01 (does it deserve $0.02?) Mike >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar Video >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:42:44 EDT > > >In a message dated 10/16/00 12:25:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >At the risk of going out on a limb, I hope they > >don't show it on tv: it's too good to be caged in with all the usual > >crap. > > > >Wes > > > > >I beg to differ. If the opportunity is there to present it to tv, I'd say >go >for it. If the video is good, then it should stand out from all the other >crap. See this is the problem with techno, no one is willing to >push(promote) it like they do trance. > >Disenchanted, > >G l y p h > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There's still a lot of good hip hop about. Lots of kids still sit on street corners doing it old school style. In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a mailing list similar to this one but for hip hop out there... The truth of it is that the underground will never die. You can't stop people from making music for the love of it... It's the most primitive form of art, bone whistles came before cave paintings (apparently) l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Michael Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and that's a problem why? > > i don't know, i know we probably don't see eye to > eye on this, but this > music is called underground for a reason, and that's > to keep it OFF the > mainstream channels... any kind of music that blows > up generally loses its > quality. putting on flameproof suit now... > > case in point, rap. i used to love a lot of the rap > that came out (Wu Tang, > Outkast, Death Row, etc.). rap started blowing up > REAL good with No Limit > Records, the ultimate in selling out what rap is all > about. think about it. > > saturation of public channels makes people sick of > the music. media glamor > attracts untalented artists who make crappy, > uninspired, sampled, and/or > bland music. > > trance is a very accessible type of music. i myself > started listening to > trance, until i started searching for something > better. > > someone said on here that mainstream music searches > for you, you search for > underground music. and that's exactly what happened > with me, and that's > exactly what will happen to most true future fans of > the underground sound. > most people who will become fans of techno will find > it sooner or later... > keeps the quality high, and the fans true. > > okay, flame away now. 8o) > > just my $0.01 (does it deserve $0.02?) > Mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
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"tech r&b"...? what the f*** is that? i might be wrong but aren't most of those said artists (destiny's child, missy, timbaland, etc...) closer to the 2step garage thing than the techno genre.. sand. From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar Video Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:12:21 +1000 >i don't know, i know we probably don't see eye to eye on this, but this >music is called underground for a reason, and that's to keep it OFF the >mainstream channels... any kind of music that blows up generally loses its >quality. putting on flameproof suit now... >someone said on here that mainstream music searches for you, you search for >underground music. and that's exactly what happened with me, and that's >exactly what will happen to most true future fans of the underground sound. >most people who will become fans of techno will find it sooner or later... >keeps the quality high, and the fans true. A big style in Melbourne now is what they call "tech R&B" - artists like Destiny's Child, Missy Elliott, Kandi. It was overground but now it's underground, it's become camp and cool. I love that stuff. And it is really subversive if you listen to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] New sounds (was Re: [313] Jaguar Video)
>Tech-Hop at the time, which is an >exceedingly lame genre name. That's what we called this "tech R&B" at first - the Timbaland/Missy Ellliott end of it.
New sounds (was Re: [313] Jaguar Video)
on 10/16/00 10:12 PM, Cyclone Wehner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A big style in Melbourne now is what they call "tech R&B" Allow me to run another tangent off of this. Last night at the Detroit Grand Pubahs video release party, my man (kevin) Moonstarr from Toronto dropped the bomb on us. I literally felt a new genre (aka mutant funk virus) being released on the unsuspecting crowd. I called it Tech-Hop at the time, which is an exceedingly lame genre name. But it was a jaw-dropping stew of hard, almost distorted crunchy hip-hop drums, in perfect freestyle tempo, but accented with repetitive hiccuping stabs and samples. Watch this man. The Pubahs also dropped some new gems. Doc Toefinger has been working on channeling the spirit of Doc Funkenstein, with great success. Todd Sines was also in fine form, laying down his latest minimal bleep seduction at the end of his set. And it WAS a family affair. Ol-skool reprezent! -- There4IM
Re: [313] Jaguar Video
>i don't know, i know we probably don't see eye to eye on this, but this >music is called underground for a reason, and that's to keep it OFF the >mainstream channels... any kind of music that blows up generally loses its >quality. putting on flameproof suit now... >someone said on here that mainstream music searches for you, you search for >underground music. and that's exactly what happened with me, and that's >exactly what will happen to most true future fans of the underground sound. >most people who will become fans of techno will find it sooner or later... >keeps the quality high, and the fans true. A big style in Melbourne now is what they call "tech R&B" - artists like Destiny's Child, Missy Elliott, Kandi. It was overground but now it's underground, it's become camp and cool. I love that stuff. And it is really subversive if you listen to it.
Re: [313] Jaguar Video
and that's a problem why? i don't know, i know we probably don't see eye to eye on this, but this music is called underground for a reason, and that's to keep it OFF the mainstream channels... any kind of music that blows up generally loses its quality. putting on flameproof suit now... case in point, rap. i used to love a lot of the rap that came out (Wu Tang, Outkast, Death Row, etc.). rap started blowing up REAL good with No Limit Records, the ultimate in selling out what rap is all about. think about it. saturation of public channels makes people sick of the music. media glamor attracts untalented artists who make crappy, uninspired, sampled, and/or bland music. trance is a very accessible type of music. i myself started listening to trance, until i started searching for something better. someone said on here that mainstream music searches for you, you search for underground music. and that's exactly what happened with me, and that's exactly what will happen to most true future fans of the underground sound. most people who will become fans of techno will find it sooner or later... keeps the quality high, and the fans true. okay, flame away now. 8o) just my $0.01 (does it deserve $0.02?) Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar Video Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:42:44 EDT In a message dated 10/16/00 12:25:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >At the risk of going out on a limb, I hope they >don't show it on tv: it's too good to be caged in with all the usual >crap. > >Wes > I beg to differ. If the opportunity is there to present it to tv, I'd say go for it. If the video is good, then it should stand out from all the other crap. See this is the problem with techno, no one is willing to push(promote) it like they do trance. Disenchanted, G l y p h - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Jaguar Video
In a message dated 10/16/00 12:25:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >At the risk of going out on a limb, I hope they >don't show it on tv: it's too good to be caged in with all the usual >crap. > >Wes > I beg to differ. If the opportunity is there to present it to tv, I'd say go for it. If the video is good, then it should stand out from all the other crap. See this is the problem with techno, no one is willing to push(promote) it like they do trance. Disenchanted, G l y p h
Re: [313] Jaguar Video
How can you obtain a copy of this CD ROM?
Re: [313] Jaguar Video
Too late mate. It's already been on MTV UK & Ireland. Dake At the risk of going out on a limb, I hope they > don't show it on tv: it's too good to be caged in with all the usual > crap. > > Wes > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Jaguar Video
Anyone with any interest whatsoever in current Detroit techno owes it to themselves to try and see the CD-ROM (only?) video of "Jaguar" which has just come out on UK split cd single. Beginning with Rolando holding what looks like a Technics 1200 against his chest, the whole thing emphasizes the interface between machinery--cars, bikes, turntables--and the local South West Detroit community. It's a great, uplifting blast of color and movement which culminates with a group of soulful Latin-dancers ripping it up to the track on the streets in broad daylight. The UR crew also makes an enigmatic appearance: a core of dark energy at the center of Jaguar's electric storm. Incomparable. At the risk of going out on a limb, I hope they don't show it on tv: it's too good to be caged in with all the usual crap. Wes
