Re: (313) Techno and Youth
Martin, re: dubstep producers : I really hope so as I like the sound of a snare on the third kick but I hope they all dont get sucked into the Berlin dubby style many seem to go down. There are some pretty interesting bits out there eg Untold, Appleblim, Silkie and Sharkey. Ravinder. 2009/9/11 Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com: On 10 Sep 2009, at 17:15, Ravinder S Mann wrote: Can techno capture the youth market ? Does it want or even need to? Most kids here are into funky house, speed garage or various flavours of hard style, the other factor is there are no techno clubs to go to. I think we'll start to see a younger influx of producers soon or later via dubstep, once they get beyond the bass and just beats. m
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
As someone who began listening to reggae and dub going on 30 years, I gravitate towards that sound wherever it pops up. I don't welcome people ossifying it into a genre though. One of the attractions of dubstep for me is the stuff that is informed by dub's sense of space. But it's a shame that there's enough dubby techno coming out that Boomkat has a genre tag for it. The good stuff is getting swamped in a sea of mediocre 'me-too' tracks. Anyone can hook up a muffled kick, a minor chord on 2 4, and a 1/4 note triplet delay -- lord knows I've done it myself plenty of times. But why release tracks whose chief virtue is how successfully they recycle the work of others? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Ravinder S Mann rav.m...@gmail.com wrote: Martin, re: dubstep producers : I really hope so as I like the sound of a snare on the third kick but I hope they all dont get sucked into the Berlin dubby style many seem to go down. There are some pretty interesting bits out there eg Untold, Appleblim, Silkie and Sharkey. Ravinder. 2009/9/11 Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com: On 10 Sep 2009, at 17:15, Ravinder S Mann wrote: Can techno capture the youth market ? Does it want or even need to? Most kids here are into funky house, speed garage or various flavours of hard style, the other factor is there are no techno clubs to go to. I think we'll start to see a younger influx of producers soon or later via dubstep, once they get beyond the bass and just beats. m
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
Ravinder S Mann wrote: Martin, re: dubstep producers : I really hope so as I like the sound of a snare on the third kick but I hope they all dont get sucked into the Berlin dubby style many seem to go down. There are some pretty interesting bits out there eg Untold, Appleblim, Silkie and Sharkey. Ravinder. There's a lot of interesting stuff around and it's getting more diverse, which is good as I'd got pretty bored with wobble and snare, which was always going to happen at some point. I reckon Dubstep is just coming out of it's loopy techno phase, interesting times ahead. m
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
kent williams wrote: As someone who began listening to reggae and dub going on 30 years, I gravitate towards that sound wherever it pops up. I don't welcome people ossifying it into a genre though. One of the attractions of dubstep for me is the stuff that is informed by dub's sense of space. But it's a shame that there's enough dubby techno coming out that Boomkat has a genre tag for it. The good stuff is getting swamped in a sea of mediocre 'me-too' tracks. Anyone can hook up a muffled kick, a minor chord on 2 4, and a 1/4 note triplet delay -- lord knows I've done it myself plenty of times. But why release tracks whose chief virtue is how successfully they recycle the work of others? It's a fair point Kent, good dub is very hard to do, understanding the space is not easy, while the childish use of echo is very easy indeed. m
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
On 10 Sep 2009, at 17:15, Ravinder S Mann wrote: Can techno capture the youth market ? Does it want or even need to? Most kids here are into funky house, speed garage or various flavours of hard style, the other factor is there are no techno clubs to go to. I think we'll start to see a younger influx of producers soon or later via dubstep, once they get beyond the bass and just beats. m
RE: (313) Techno and Youth
Check out this mix by Cooly G - definitely some 'techno' elements in there. I'm loving this new take on an old sound http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid= 2507Itemid=28 Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Ravinder S Mann [mailto:rav.m...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 September 2009 17:16 To: list 313 Subject: (313) Techno and Youth Something Ive been thinking about recently In the UK we got UK Funky with is essentially house with a soca beat. Often made on simple equipment in a short period of time. I guess its like fashion just get it out there, sell it and make the next release. But people seem to get really excited by it. All the kids love it as its pure party music. And then comparing that to the time spend creating a techno release with all its attention to design and detail and if I were to play that to the same people as above they would be like 'nope its boring'. Why is that ? Can techno capture the youth market ? Ravinder. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
[kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com] You gotta do what you gotta do. A lot of techno is also made really quickly. In fact, I think a lot of producers have the strategy of making a lot of tracks as quickly as possible and then picking the best of the lot. Techno doesn't have to be time-consuming to make, and the best tracks are just drums with 2 or 3 additional sounds. The challenge is to make something awesome that's also simple. Yeah, it's like the quote from Antoine de Saint-Exupery: A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. I always thought that was kind of a guiding principle of techno. -- :: atomly :: [ ato...@atomly.com : www.atomly.com : http://blog.atomly.com/ ... [ atomiq records : new york city : +1.917.442.9450 ... [ e-mail atomly-news-subscr...@atomly.com for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
UK Funky sounds just like what was going on in the mid 90s in Chicago...Dance Mania, IHR, Contaminated, and plenty of others were dropping new stuff weekly that wasn't exactly innovative or detail oriented. Jeff --Original Message-- From: Ravinder S Mann To: list 313 Sent: Sep 10, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: (313) Techno and Youth Something Ive been thinking about recently In the UK we got UK Funky with is essentially house with a soca beat. Often made on simple equipment in a short period of time. I guess its like fashion just get it out there, sell it and make the next release. But people seem to get really excited by it. All the kids love it as its pure party music. And then comparing that to the time spend creating a techno release with all its attention to design and detail and if I were to play that to the same people as above they would be like 'nope its boring'. Why is that ? Can techno capture the youth market ? Ravinder. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
You gotta do what you gotta do. A lot of techno is also made really quickly. In fact, I think a lot of producers have the strategy of making a lot of tracks as quickly as possible and then picking the best of the lot. Techno doesn't have to be time-consuming to make, and the best tracks are just drums with 2 or 3 additional sounds. The challenge is to make something awesome that's also simple. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Ravinder S Mannrav.m...@gmail.com wrote: Something Ive been thinking about recently In the UK we got UK Funky with is essentially house with a soca beat. Often made on simple equipment in a short period of time. I guess its like fashion just get it out there, sell it and make the next release. But people seem to get really excited by it. All the kids love it as its pure party music. And then comparing that to the time spend creating a techno release with all its attention to design and detail and if I were to play that to the same people as above they would be like 'nope its boring'. Why is that ? Can techno capture the youth market ? Ravinder.
