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so alex what makes you sit on your perch and talk smack. probably just that. you don't know me or my crew or what we are about or who we support... you're right, I don't. just tried to find your website via google. it says this: Hi Welcome to Good Tree Records Official Website We are under serious construction right now Please come back at a later date. If you need to contact us you can do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks So, I tried. Yes, I'm the idiot. Thought that was a given here. I kinda gave up worrying what people think a while ago. Thought that was obvious given the absolute rubbish I spout here on a daily basis. Look, here's the deal. You posted that thing, I left you out of it. Then after a few days and it was still rumbling on, I got bored and thought sod it, and took a pop at you, as you're the only way we have of communicating with this guy. So, OK, I apologise. I shouldn't have took a pop at you. cause i don't see [EMAIL PROTECTED] from you. You don't see [EMAIL PROTECTED] from me, cos I ain't got no [EMAIL PROTECTED] to show off. Not sure what you're saying? To have an opinion on this list you have to be doing something? except to use this list as your personal record spotter Well, I always tak about records because a) I'm interested in them, and b) I haven't got anything else more worthwhile to say. Thought talking about records was OK though? thought that was on topic? and to let people know how down you are.. I am so down with the kids it hurts me. I own three Mathew Jonson records ffs. FACT. I am down with the kids big time. so if you have something to say about me or my crew say it... I haven't really I suppose, just thought you were being a bit daft by posting that thing, that's all. Nowt personal, and also you're probably right, I'm sure we would agree on a lot of things. Anyway, sorry to carry subject on list. My last word, hopefully it's the end (providing I've not managed to offend Mike and his crew any more) Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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just tried to find your website via google. it says this: Hi Alex, Mike had a direct link to the site below his name in the email he sent you, but I looked into it this morning. It looks like the Vhosts file that our ISP is using, reverted back to a test config. It's been removed, so that the method you got to the site,shows the proper site. If you're still curious: http://www.RenegadeRhythms.com As Mike said, the sites in the process of being revamped but at least our history back to 99 you can check out, for our history back to 88, you'll have to wait for the new site. Cheers... Dave
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-Original Message- From: Scott McGill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2004 23:18 To: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Underated Producers Arian Leviste i like his work with John Tejada, anyone got any pointers to solo productions? == This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ==
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Haha, Nice words and I actually agree this statement! Ken - Original Message - From: KiDD*e* [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:04 AM Subject: Fw: (313) Underated Producers Okay, the list could go on and on... But we know full well that its pointless to claim that theses people need more gratefulness! [EMAIL PROTECTED] rules the world, just look around its the apology of mediocrity, in any medium. And tiësto serves his musty porridge all over the world, and people ask for more... hmm, im sorry for beeing that manichean, i know its not that simple, but i feel like that right now, sometimes im more than sick of all this stuff. - KiDDy. - Original Message - From: Scott McGill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 12:17 AM Subject: RE: (313) Underated Producers Everyone on Clone actually. Seymour Bits aka Comtron too. All the Delsin guys. All the Iridite guys. Reggie Dokes and Rick Wade over in the UK. I-Cube and Joakim need more respect. Jacek Sienkiewicz for still doing the music that I always want Robert Hood to keep doing. Daniel Wang when he comes to the UK Gabriel Ananda 2 Dollar Egg Arian Leviste Thomas Melchior -Original Message- From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2004 09:06 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers On 1-okt-04, at 18:57, dave cronin wrote: uh yeah. too early. brain work bad. dimension 5 = john harvey optic nerve = keith tucker i really like 'em both. but i meant optic nerve / keith tucker. I totally agree about the Keith Tucker thing! I have said it here before and i'll say it again now but his latest album is really, really good. I am surprised that it didn't got anymore attention around the globe! More underrated producers: Duplex! KJ
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Tell you what. This got me thinking. (Yeah, yeah, I know that doesn't happen too often) Everyone bangs on about Tiesto etc. But bringing the conversation round a little, I noticed that the now famous Dj Mani in his top 10 list of labels name checked Intec (Carl Cox's label), and 2 of Billy Nasty's labels in his top 10. Now. This obviously proves DJ Mani is a total no-brainer, but also on another level too. If you ask me, at least with the likes of Tiesto etc you know where you stand. He's a popular trance dj, and does his thing to the masses. Carl Cox on the other hand, is a complete band-wagon jumper, who changes his micro style of music every few years or so to keep in with the kids. I forget how many times he's done it, but jesus. Billy Nasty is the same. Their current little thing is so called 'techno' (that's hard dance music to you and me) and f**kwits like Dj Mani are lapping it up and spending their money on it. There's 101 other worthy UK labels he could spend his money with, and has been for the last 15 years. Shame Dj Mani ignored all these and chose to spend his money with the jokers. He speaks of battles etc, and boycotts, but flippin 'eck, all us here in the UK have been battling against these jokers using the name techno from the year dot. It's nothing new. These clowns ruined that word 'techno' (and had done by about '92), such is which we can't use it anymore. I don't use it anyway, do you? Hmm, sorry, more ramblings. And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. In fairness, Carl Cox is alright. Plays a lot of bobbins though Nick
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These clowns ruined that word 'techno' (and had done by about '92), such is which we can't use it anymore. I don't use it anyway, do you? well i don't either as people think of 'technotronic' (techno techno techno techno) and people dancing to car alarms when you mention techno as the music you're into. shame, but what can u do? not sure nasty and cox are to blame for this really tho. if asked i say the music i'm into (or dj) is house and electro. easier that way :) robin...
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LOL. I used to know Carl when he lived with Maxine and sold rave tickets out of his place in Brighton. He was the same then. He'd take bookings for techno nights, raves, house nights, garage nights, jungle nights, death metal nights (well maybe not). Not that I especially have a problem with this, but its just that because he tried to span every genre he never got too deep into any one of them and so all his sets seem to represent the blandest of whatever particular genre hes playing. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers Tell you what. This got me thinking. (Yeah, yeah, I know that doesn't happen too often) Everyone bangs on about Tiesto etc. But bringing the conversation round a little, I noticed that the now famous Dj Mani in his top 10 list of labels name checked Intec (Carl Cox's label), and 2 of Billy Nasty's labels in his top 10. Now. This obviously proves DJ Mani is a total no-brainer, but also on another level too. If you ask me, at least with the likes of Tiesto etc you know where you stand. He's a popular trance dj, and does his thing to the masses. Carl Cox on the other hand, is a complete band-wagon jumper, who changes his micro style of music every few years or so to keep in with the kids. I forget how many times he's done it, but jesus. Billy Nasty is the same. Their current little thing is so called 'techno' (that's hard dance music to you and me) and f**kwits like Dj Mani are lapping it up and spending their money on it. There's 101 other worthy UK labels he could spend his money with, and has been for the last 15 years. Shame Dj Mani ignored all these and chose to spend his money with the jokers. He speaks of battles etc, and boycotts, but flippin 'eck, all us here in the UK have been battling against these jokers using the name techno from the year dot. It's nothing new. These clowns ruined that word 'techno' (and had done by about '92), such is which we can't use it anymore. I don't use it anyway, do you? Hmm, sorry, more ramblings. And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. Alex
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And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. In fairness, Carl Cox is alright. Plays a lot of bobbins though I read once that he had to use Sanitry towles between his ears and headphones cos he used to sweat so much during a set he'd end up busting them!
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not sure nasty and cox are to blame for this really tho. Yes, you're right of course. And, I didn't really mean to single those two out. Infact, I have very little problem with most people trying to go about earning their crust. I was just trying to point out that while dj Mani is organising his battles, he's been funding the very people that us here have kind of the same problem with. Do you sort of see my point in a roundabout sort of way? _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Carl Cox is a populist DJ, he doesn't pretend to be anything else. I heard his fifth anniversary InTec mix-CD and was surprised at the quality of the label, classic Detroit sounds. Incidentally he has just completed a volume in DMC's Back To Mine series which is very diverse. Surprised he has no 313 classics on there, but he has Diana Ross, Style Council, Loose Ends, 808 State and Leftfield. He's also bought a crib in Melbourne near old pal Eric Powell, and there have been rumours of a residency, but I digress! LOL. I used to know Carl when he lived with Maxine and sold rave tickets out of his place in Brighton. He was the same then. He'd take bookings for techno nights, raves, house nights, garage nights, jungle nights, death metal nights (well maybe not). Not that I especially have a problem with this, but its just that because he tried to span every genre he never got too deep into any one of them and so all his sets seem to represent the blandest of whatever particular genre hes playing. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers Tell you what. This got me thinking. (Yeah, yeah, I know that doesn't happen too often) Everyone bangs on about Tiesto etc. But bringing the conversation round a little, I noticed that the now famous Dj Mani in his top 10 list of labels name checked Intec (Carl Cox's label), and 2 of Billy Nasty's labels in his top 10. Now. This obviously proves DJ Mani is a total no-brainer, but also on another level too. If you ask me, at least with the likes of Tiesto etc you know where you stand. He's a popular trance dj, and does his thing to the masses. Carl Cox on the other hand, is a complete band-wagon jumper, who changes his micro style of music every few years or so to keep in with the kids. I forget how many times he's done it, but jesus. Billy Nasty is the same. Their current little thing is so called 'techno' (that's hard dance music to you and me) and f**kwits like Dj Mani are lapping it up and spending their money on it. There's 101 other worthy UK labels he could spend his money with, and has been for the last 15 years. Shame Dj Mani ignored all these and chose to spend his money with the jokers. He speaks of battles etc, and boycotts, but flippin 'eck, all us here in the UK have been battling against these jokers using the name techno from the year dot. It's nothing new. These clowns ruined that word 'techno' (and had done by about '92), such is which we can't use it anymore. I don't use it anyway, do you? Hmm, sorry, more ramblings. And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. Alex
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And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. Alex, 1. What's your problem with Tea. I thought the British like Tea. I'm personally a coffee drinker, but I don't personally have any problem with Tea. What's yours? 2. So how many guys from Renegade Rhythms have you been speaking to on this subject? From my count , it was only 1 person. So where does the plurality come in? 3. Just curious, because your' statement above didn't make sense to me. Actually, I think it's a common Logical Fallacy that you are displaying. A+B=E C+D=E Therefore C+B=E Here's how it plays out: Mani + Carl Cox = Like RenegadeRhythms + Mani = Like therefore Renegade Rhythms + Carl Cox = Like This is called the Fallacy of False Analogy. In an analogy, two objects (or events), A and B are shown to be similar. Then it is argued that since A has property P, so also B must have property P. An analogy fails when the two objects, A and B, are different in a way which affects whether they both have property P. Unfortunately Logic doesn't work that way. And the resulting statement is FALSE. If Advent likes Carl Cox (not saying that he does, that was the Alex's words), that's his perogative. It's not going to stop my ears from hurting when I hear Carl's music and mixing. So go ahead and scream, but I've felt nothing from Carl Cox for over 10-12 years (as long as I've known about him). If continue with your logic, I might as well end, that you are British. The British likes the Spice Girls. Therefore you like the Spice Girls. Doesn't make sense does it? Cheers Dave
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i just popped in to see carl for a bit last week (hey- i'm in LA, not a lot of techno options). To my amusement, he is STILL sporting Motor-Detroit t-shirts. he might not play detroit, but he sure 'sweats' detroit. that poor, stinky stretched out t-shirt =P On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Carl Cox is a populist DJ, he doesn't pretend to be anything else. I heard his fifth anniversary InTec mix-CD and was surprised at the quality of the label, classic Detroit sounds. Incidentally he has just completed a volume in DMC's Back To Mine series which is very diverse. Surprised he has no 313 classics on there, but he has Diana Ross, Style Council, Loose Ends, 808 State and Leftfield. He's also bought a crib in Melbourne near old pal Eric Powell, and there have been rumours of a residency, but I digress! LOL. I used to know Carl when he lived with Maxine and sold rave tickets out of his place in Brighton. He was the same then. He'd take bookings for techno nights, raves, house nights, garage nights, jungle nights, death metal nights (well maybe not). Not that I especially have a problem with this, but its just that because he tried to span every genre he never got too deep into any one of them and so all his sets seem to represent the blandest of whatever particular genre hes playing. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers Tell you what. This got me thinking. (Yeah, yeah, I know that doesn't happen too often) Everyone bangs on about Tiesto etc. But bringing the conversation round a little, I noticed that the now famous Dj Mani in his top 10 list of labels name checked Intec (Carl Cox's label), and 2 of Billy Nasty's labels in his top 10. Now. This obviously proves DJ Mani is a total no-brainer, but also on another level too. If you ask me, at least with the likes of Tiesto etc you know where you stand. He's a popular trance dj, and does his thing to the masses. Carl Cox on the other hand, is a complete band-wagon jumper, who changes his micro style of music every few years or so to keep in with the kids. I forget how many times he's done it, but jesus. Billy Nasty is the same. Their current little thing is so called 'techno' (that's hard dance music to you and me) and f**kwits like Dj Mani are lapping it up and spending their money on it. There's 101 other worthy UK labels he could spend his money with, and has been for the last 15 years. Shame Dj Mani ignored all these and chose to spend his money with the jokers. He speaks of battles etc, and boycotts, but flippin 'eck, all us here in the UK have been battling against these jokers using the name techno from the year dot. It's nothing new. These clowns ruined that word 'techno' (and had done by about '92), such is which we can't use it anymore. I don't use it anyway, do you? Hmm, sorry, more ramblings. And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. Alex
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- Original Message - From: David Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:10 PM Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers If continue with your logic, I might as well end, that You are British. The British likes the Spice Girls Therefore you like the Spice Girls. Doesn't make sense does it? Cheers Dave Hehe, i like that :) We call it False Syllogism, or a Sophism. The famous example is : All men are mortal, Socrate is a man, Therefore, Socrate is mortal. = Syllogism All cats are mortal, Socrate is mortal, Therefore Socrate is cat. = Sophism Seem to be logical and rigorous, but totally false. - KiDDy.
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so alex what makes you sit on your perch and talk smack.you don't know me or my crew or what we are about or who we supportso if you want to pick apart someones playlist that has'nt been updated since i don't even know when, then go ahead but your displaying your stupidity time and time again with this thread so if you have something to say about me or my crew say itand when you do i hope you know who your talking about...for once that would be niceno one ever directed anything at you you choose to take it that way , then thats on you.i do notice that your so quick to respond to things on this list you know nothing about and time and time again you look like and idiot trying to attack what you deem as correct..to tell you the truth i really dont care how you perceve me on this list but i am sure if we met face to face and discussed issues of this nature we probably would see eye to eye. but dont for a second think that someone else's ramblings/ opinions is my crew Renegade Rhythms stance...if you can read plain english, you are english correct?? i said i posted that email for a friend and i thought it was releventso how does that put me and my crew in the position of the evil people who support people like carl cox.GROW UP maybe you need to go to our website to find out who we have supported in the past (although we need to update it).cause i don't see [EMAIL PROTECTED] from you.except to use this list as your personal record spotter and to let people know how down you are..its annoying and so are you at times... i try not to ruffle many people's feathers on this list unless i feel its relevent to do so..so why are you attacking me and my crew? and by the way i am sure some people are tired of seeing this so maybe we sould take this private and yea your logic stinks and you assume to much If you ask me, at least with the likes of Tiesto etc you know where you stand. He's a popular trance dj, and does his thing to the masses. Carl Cox on the other hand, is a complete band-wagon jumper, who changes his micro style of music every few years or so to keep in with the kids. comparing one trance dj to the next and saying one is better than the other just to make your point relevent is hypocrisy at its finest but i would'nt expect anything else from you..trance is trance kiddo and i support none of it michael www.renegaderhythms.com Tell you what. This got me thinking. (Yeah, yeah, I know that doesn't happen too often) Everyone bangs on about Tiesto etc. But bringing the conversation round a little, I noticed that the now famous Dj Mani in his top 10 list of labels name checked Intec (Carl Cox's label), and 2 of Billy Nasty's labels in his top 10. Now. This obviously proves DJ Mani is a total no-brainer, but also on another level too. If you ask me, at least with the likes of Tiesto etc you know where you stand. He's a popular trance dj, and does his thing to the masses. Carl Cox on the other hand, is a complete band-wagon jumper, who changes his micro style of music every few years or so to keep in with the kids. I forget how many times he's done it, but jesus. Billy Nasty is the same. Their current little thing is so called 'techno' (that's hard dance music to you and me) and f**kwits like Dj Mani are lapping it up and spending their money on it. There's 101 other worthy UK labels he could spend his money with, and has been for the last 15 years. Shame Dj Mani ignored all these and chose to spend his money with the jokers. He speaks of battles etc, and boycotts, but flippin 'eck, all us here in the UK have been battling against these jokers using the name techno from the year dot. It's nothing new. These clowns ruined that word 'techno' (and had done by about '92), such is which we can't use it anymore. I don't use it anyway, do you? Hmm, sorry, more ramblings. And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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so alex what makes you sit on your perch and talk smack.you don't know me or my crew or what we are about or who we supportso if you want to pick apart someones playlist that has'nt been updated since i don't even know when, then go ahead but your displaying your stupidity time and time again with this thread so if you have something to say about me or my crew say itand when you do i hope you know who your talking about...for once that would be niceno one ever directed anything at you you choose to take it that way , then thats on you.i do notice that your so quick to respond to things on this list you know nothing about and time and time again you look like and idiot trying to attack what you deem as correct..to tell you the truth i really dont care how you perceve me on this list but i am sure if we met face to face and discussed issues of this nature we probably would see eye to eye. but dont for a second think that someone else's ramblings/ opinions is my crew Renegade Rhythms stance...if you can read plain english, you are english correct?? i said i posted that email for a friend and i thought it was releventso how does that put me and my crew in the position of the evil people who support people like carl cox.GROW UP maybe you need to go to our website to find out who we have supported in the past (although we need to update it).cause i don't see [EMAIL PROTECTED] from you.except to use this list as your personal record spotter and to let people know how down you are..its annoying and so are you at times... i try not to ruffle many people's feathers on this list unless i feel its relevent to do so..so why are you attacking me and my crew? and by the way i am sure some people are tired of seeing this so maybe we sould take this private and yea your logic stinks and you assume to much If you ask me, at least with the likes of Tiesto etc you know where you stand. He's a popular trance dj, and does his thing to the masses. Carl Cox on the other hand, is a complete band-wagon jumper, who changes his micro style of music every few years or so to keep in with the kids. comparing one trance dj to the next and saying one is better than the other just to make your point relevent is hypocrisy at its finest but i would'nt expect anything else from you..trance is trance kiddo and i support none of it michael www.renegaderhythms.com Tell you what. This got me thinking. (Yeah, yeah, I know that doesn't happen too often) Everyone bangs on about Tiesto etc. But bringing the conversation round a little, I noticed that the now famous Dj Mani in his top 10 list of labels name checked Intec (Carl Cox's label), and 2 of Billy Nasty's labels in his top 10. Now. This obviously proves DJ Mani is a total no-brainer, but also on another level too. If you ask me, at least with the likes of Tiesto etc you know where you stand. He's a popular trance dj, and does his thing to the masses. Carl Cox on the other hand, is a complete band-wagon jumper, who changes his micro style of music every few years or so to keep in with the kids. I forget how many times he's done it, but jesus. Billy Nasty is the same. Their current little thing is so called 'techno' (that's hard dance music to you and me) and f**kwits like Dj Mani are lapping it up and spending their money on it. There's 101 other worthy UK labels he could spend his money with, and has been for the last 15 years. Shame Dj Mani ignored all these and chose to spend his money with the jokers. He speaks of battles etc, and boycotts, but flippin 'eck, all us here in the UK have been battling against these jokers using the name techno from the year dot. It's nothing new. These clowns ruined that word 'techno' (and had done by about '92), such is which we can't use it anymore. I don't use it anyway, do you? Hmm, sorry, more ramblings. And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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I've got some great Bryan Zentz records on both Intec and Tortured. Is that not techno? :-P -- Tim Moore On Oct 6, 2004, at 8:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell you what. This got me thinking. (Yeah, yeah, I know that doesn't happen too often) Everyone bangs on about Tiesto etc. But bringing the conversation round a little, I noticed that the now famous Dj Mani in his top 10 list of labels name checked Intec (Carl Cox's label), and 2 of Billy Nasty's labels in his top 10. Now. This obviously proves DJ Mani is a total no-brainer, but also on another level too. If you ask me, at least with the likes of Tiesto etc you know where you stand. He's a popular trance dj, and does his thing to the masses. Carl Cox on the other hand, is a complete band-wagon jumper, who changes his micro style of music every few years or so to keep in with the kids. I forget how many times he's done it, but jesus. Billy Nasty is the same. Their current little thing is so called 'techno' (that's hard dance music to you and me) and f**kwits like Dj Mani are lapping it up and spending their money on it. There's 101 other worthy UK labels he could spend his money with, and has been for the last 15 years. Shame Dj Mani ignored all these and chose to spend his money with the jokers. He speaks of battles etc, and boycotts, but flippin 'eck, all us here in the UK have been battling against these jokers using the name techno from the year dot. It's nothing new. These clowns ruined that word 'techno' (and had done by about '92), such is which we can't use it anymore. I don't use it anyway, do you? Hmm, sorry, more ramblings. And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. Alex
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On 1-okt-04, at 18:57, dave cronin wrote: uh yeah. too early. brain work bad. dimension 5 = john harvey optic nerve = keith tucker i really like 'em both. but i meant optic nerve / keith tucker. I totally agree about the Keith Tucker thing! I have said it here before and i'll say it again now but his latest album is really, really good. I am surprised that it didn't got anymore attention around the globe! More underrated producers: Duplex! KJ
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yeah, the two full lengths both hit the nail on the head with the moody but rockin electro styles. adding brace yourself, which is a total classic(imho), really rounds things out for a strong nomination. has anyone caught dj k-1 / keith tucker live? i've not even been able to dig up a recorded set. --- kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree about the Keith Tucker thing! I have said it here before and i'll say it again now but his latest album is really, really good. I am surprised that it didn't got anymore attention around the globe! What was his most recent album again? Was it Optical on Delsin? I'm pretty sure that's the last LP of his I picked up... He released a new album on his Puzzlebox label a few months ago called Metal Images. I have put it on my iPod when i got it and it has been playing almost constantly from that time on :) KJ
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You can check the live he did with Posatronix and Black Tony (AuxMen) @ Stereolize 2003 : http://www.stereolize.org/fuzion.html Personnaly, i really enjoyed it. (wait a little bit, theres a blank at the beginning). And i definitively liked the Live they did to close the DEMF 2002. They played lived with machines some 'techno' classics. - KiDDy. - Original Message - From: dave cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers yeah, the two full lengths both hit the nail on the head with the moody but rockin electro styles. adding brace yourself, which is a total classic(imho), really rounds things out for a strong nomination. has anyone caught dj k-1 / keith tucker live? i've not even been able to dig up a recorded set. --- kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree about the Keith Tucker thing! I have said it here before and i'll say it again now but his latest album is really, really good. I am surprised that it didn't got anymore attention around the globe! What was his most recent album again? Was it Optical on Delsin? I'm pretty sure that's the last LP of his I picked up... He released a new album on his Puzzlebox label a few months ago called Metal Images. I have put it on my iPod when i got it and it has been playing almost constantly from that time on :) KJ
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Everyone on Clone actually. Seymour Bits aka Comtron too. All the Delsin guys. All the Iridite guys. Reggie Dokes and Rick Wade over in the UK. I-Cube and Joakim need more respect. Jacek Sienkiewicz for still doing the music that I always want Robert Hood to keep doing. Daniel Wang when he comes to the UK Gabriel Ananda 2 Dollar Egg Arian Leviste Thomas Melchior -Original Message- From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2004 09:06 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers On 1-okt-04, at 18:57, dave cronin wrote: uh yeah. too early. brain work bad. dimension 5 = john harvey optic nerve = keith tucker i really like 'em both. but i meant optic nerve / keith tucker. I totally agree about the Keith Tucker thing! I have said it here before and i'll say it again now but his latest album is really, really good. I am surprised that it didn't got anymore attention around the globe! More underrated producers: Duplex! KJ
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Martin Dust wrote: Pacou Yes, indeed! Has Pacou done anything since State of Mind. I've been dying to hear something new. Mick Harris YES His music just oozes with sexy turgidness!
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Chris Cowie. Er, his Scottish ... ;-) k -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:23 PM To: 313 Org Subject: (313) Underated Producers ok i wanna talk about music. my vote for a hugely underated producer is Gary Martin (teknotika) i mean check out that Serious Business 12 on Teknotika for recent proof. anyone else have a producer that you think is underated? robin..
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Pacou Matt Chester The Iridite boys Mat Carter Female Mick Harris
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Derek Carr Dimension 5 (Keith Tucker) DJ Shufflemaster
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JT ($tinkworks) -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:39 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers Derek Carr Dimension 5 (Keith Tucker) DJ Shufflemaster
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I thought Dimension 5 was John Harvey? (although I see he's now D5) -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:39 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers Derek Carr Dimension 5 (Keith Tucker) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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That's my understanding too - isn't Keith Tucker Optic Nerve ? s. Robert Taylor wrote: I thought Dimension 5 was John Harvey? (although I see he's now D5) -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:39 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers Derek Carr Dimension 5 (Keith Tucker) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- ___ sImon Pascoe BSD BIX ___
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I'll see your JT (seconded) and raise you a Kai Alce (wait till the rush hour joint drops. ohhh that breakbeat...m). Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:41 AM To: dave cronin; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Underated Producers JT ($tinkworks)
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yes - all confirmed there's amazing D5 material coming up including a new album with some good chilled techno vibes greets label boss of underrated producers (as D5, Optic Nerve, and $tinkworx.. ) ;-) -- Nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Pascoe Mr S M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dave cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 5:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers That's my understanding too - isn't Keith Tucker Optic Nerve ? s. Robert Taylor wrote: I thought Dimension 5 was John Harvey? (although I see he's now D5) -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:39 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers Derek Carr Dimension 5 (Keith Tucker) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- ___ sImon Pascoe BSD BIX ___
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On Oct 1, 2004, at 9:22 AM, robin wrote: ok i wanna talk about music. my vote for a hugely underated producer is Gary Martin (teknotika) i mean check out that Serious Business 12 on Teknotika for recent proof. anyone else have a producer that you think is underated? robin.. Mathew Jonson just kidding I hear you on the Gary Martin thing. I like Jamie Bissmire a whole lot. I don't know if he's underrated or not, but I don't hear much mention of him. Not exactly 313 sound though. I found some really awesome minimal techhouse MP3s by a guy named Craque, but I can't find much information about him or anywhere to buy his stuff. -- Tim Moore
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uh yeah. too early. brain work bad. dimension 5 = john harvey optic nerve = keith tucker i really like 'em both. but i meant optic nerve / keith tucker. --- Pascoe Mr S M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's my understanding too - isn't Keith Tucker Optic Nerve ? s. Robert Taylor wrote: I thought Dimension 5 was John Harvey? (although I see he's now D5) -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:39 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers Derek Carr Dimension 5 (Keith Tucker) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- ___ sImon Pascoe BSD BIX ___
