RE: (313) Remix - letters to editor
Yeah I still need to get my hands on one of those FS badboys but DIY breaks and samples is one of those things Ive always wanted to do but never really been able to :/ Peace, Marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor or if you're a bit more imaginative, you can create carefully crafted pieces of audio, tones and whatnot, and control them from the turntables... playing pre-written music isnt the only use for turntables you know :) -Joe On Monday, March 24, 2003 12:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting observation, I thought there may be a generational divide among DJs on Final Scratch, but I don't think there is. For instance, I know Kevin Saunderson uses it, and is a fan, but then Marco Bailey is not interested. A few months ago when Francois K was out I asked him about it and he made the interesting point that FS actually isn't that innovative in that it doesn't really bring anything radically new to the culture, conceptually, when that is in fact what dance music needs to evolve. on one level that's true; minus the digging through the hard drive rather than digging through the crates, you end up with the same experience. but where it does bring new things to the culture is in how you choose to use it. play a track that's an hour old (and may have originated anywhere on the globe), play your own personal remix of anything, have access to thousands of records rather than, at most, about 200 (and avoid breaking your back in the process), program your sets with great attention to the venue, mood, whatever... it does not radically change dj culture straight out of the box. but it does give djs a chance to radically change how they approach their work, which you could argue brings greater humanity to the whole process. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 6:28 PM blindly embracing anything prolly aint the best policy. but that has nothing to do with the fact that it's an advance. if it's not one you choose to utilize, great. no one's saying it's a requirement. the hardware and the skills required to dj are exactly the same -- so how does this detract from the human(ity) interface with the technology? On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone see the newest issue of Remix magazine (Massive Attack cover)? There are a few reactions to Chris Cowie's statements about doing away with vinyl in favor of mp3s and Final Scratch. Not sure what issue his statements were in - however - one letter writer was from the Detroit area and mentioned how the philosophy behind techno music was less about blindly embracing technological advances and more about the humanity behind the machine. I still have the issue with the letter but not the issue that the writer was responding to. If anyone does have it could they pass it along as it seems Remix's website doesn't have it available. I'd like to hear other people's responses to this topic but if it degrades into a vinyl vs. Final Scratch argument then I'm bowing out. can opener in hand MEK
Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor
blindly embracing anything prolly aint the best policy. but that has nothing to do with the fact that it's an advance. if it's not one you choose to utilize, great. no one's saying it's a requirement. the hardware and the skills required to dj are exactly the same -- so how does this detract from the human(ity) interface with the technology? On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone see the newest issue of Remix magazine (Massive Attack cover)? There are a few reactions to Chris Cowie's statements about doing away with vinyl in favor of mp3s and Final Scratch. Not sure what issue his statements were in - however - one letter writer was from the Detroit area and mentioned how the philosophy behind techno music was less about blindly embracing technological advances and more about the humanity behind the machine. I still have the issue with the letter but not the issue that the writer was responding to. If anyone does have it could they pass it along as it seems Remix's website doesn't have it available. I'd like to hear other people's responses to this topic but if it degrades into a vinyl vs. Final Scratch argument then I'm bowing out. can opener in hand MEK
Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor
Interesting observation, I thought there may be a generational divide among DJs on Final Scratch, but I don't think there is. For instance, I know Kevin Saunderson uses it, and is a fan, but then Marco Bailey is not interested. A few months ago when Francois K was out I asked him about it and he made the interesting point that FS actually isn't that innovative in that it doesn't really bring anything radically new to the culture, conceptually, when that is in fact what dance music needs to evolve. I have this on tape somewhere and should be able to find it if anyone is interested, it was a complex argument and I can't recall it totally. A lot of DJs are worried about computer's crashing too! But that may be beside the point. ;) Ps. How good are Kevin Saunderson's KS O2 on Trust The DJ and Mike Grant's Live At Villa Rouge Pt 1? Definitely file both under 'machine music with lottsa soul'. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 6:28 PM blindly embracing anything prolly aint the best policy. but that has nothing to do with the fact that it's an advance. if it's not one you choose to utilize, great. no one's saying it's a requirement. the hardware and the skills required to dj are exactly the same -- so how does this detract from the human(ity) interface with the technology? On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone see the newest issue of Remix magazine (Massive Attack cover)? There are a few reactions to Chris Cowie's statements about doing away with vinyl in favor of mp3s and Final Scratch. Not sure what issue his statements were in - however - one letter writer was from the Detroit area and mentioned how the philosophy behind techno music was less about blindly embracing technological advances and more about the humanity behind the machine. I still have the issue with the letter but not the issue that the writer was responding to. If anyone does have it could they pass it along as it seems Remix's website doesn't have it available. I'd like to hear other people's responses to this topic but if it degrades into a vinyl vs. Final Scratch argument then I'm bowing out. can opener in hand MEK
RE: (313) Remix - letters to editor/KS O2
-Cyclone Ps. How good are Kevin Saunderson's KS O2 on Trust The DJ and Mike Grant's Live At Villa Rouge Pt 1? Definitely file both under 'machine music with lottsa soul'. I've heard the KMS TTDJ mix and it's sweet. Starts out with deep jazz-tech of 'Gloria Muse' by Blaze but still somehow takes in Moody Recordings cuts and Mark Broom. Sensibly paced too. However, my critical question on mx cd's at the mo is: Is it live? There's one instance of scratching, which doesn't really prove anything. I dunno. Caught In The Act by Hood I'd bet more strongly on being live: Minor mistakes, low-end boom from nudging the table, and scratching - that's the kind of evidence you need. k
Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor
On Monday, March 24, 2003 12:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting observation, I thought there may be a generational divide among DJs on Final Scratch, but I don't think there is. For instance, I know Kevin Saunderson uses it, and is a fan, but then Marco Bailey is not interested. A few months ago when Francois K was out I asked him about it and he made the interesting point that FS actually isn't that innovative in that it doesn't really bring anything radically new to the culture, conceptually, when that is in fact what dance music needs to evolve. on one level that's true; minus the digging through the hard drive rather than digging through the crates, you end up with the same experience. but where it does bring new things to the culture is in how you choose to use it. play a track that's an hour old (and may have originated anywhere on the globe), play your own personal remix of anything, have access to thousands of records rather than, at most, about 200 (and avoid breaking your back in the process), program your sets with great attention to the venue, mood, whatever... it does not radically change dj culture straight out of the box. but it does give djs a chance to radically change how they approach their work, which you could argue brings greater humanity to the whole process. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 6:28 PM blindly embracing anything prolly aint the best policy. but that has nothing to do with the fact that it's an advance. if it's not one you choose to utilize, great. no one's saying it's a requirement. the hardware and the skills required to dj are exactly the same -- so how does this detract from the human(ity) interface with the technology? On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone see the newest issue of Remix magazine (Massive Attack cover)? There are a few reactions to Chris Cowie's statements about doing away with vinyl in favor of mp3s and Final Scratch. Not sure what issue his statements were in - however - one letter writer was from the Detroit area and mentioned how the philosophy behind techno music was less about blindly embracing technological advances and more about the humanity behind the machine. I still have the issue with the letter but not the issue that the writer was responding to. If anyone does have it could they pass it along as it seems Remix's website doesn't have it available. I'd like to hear other people's responses to this topic but if it degrades into a vinyl vs. Final Scratch argument then I'm bowing out. can opener in hand MEK
Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor
or if you're a bit more imaginative, you can create carefully crafted pieces of audio, tones and whatnot, and control them from the turntables... playing pre-written music isnt the only use for turntables you know :) -Joe On Monday, March 24, 2003 12:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting observation, I thought there may be a generational divide among DJs on Final Scratch, but I don't think there is. For instance, I know Kevin Saunderson uses it, and is a fan, but then Marco Bailey is not interested. A few months ago when Francois K was out I asked him about it and he made the interesting point that FS actually isn't that innovative in that it doesn't really bring anything radically new to the culture, conceptually, when that is in fact what dance music needs to evolve. on one level that's true; minus the digging through the hard drive rather than digging through the crates, you end up with the same experience. but where it does bring new things to the culture is in how you choose to use it. play a track that's an hour old (and may have originated anywhere on the globe), play your own personal remix of anything, have access to thousands of records rather than, at most, about 200 (and avoid breaking your back in the process), program your sets with great attention to the venue, mood, whatever... it does not radically change dj culture straight out of the box. but it does give djs a chance to radically change how they approach their work, which you could argue brings greater humanity to the whole process. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 6:28 PM blindly embracing anything prolly aint the best policy. but that has nothing to do with the fact that it's an advance. if it's not one you choose to utilize, great. no one's saying it's a requirement. the hardware and the skills required to dj are exactly the same -- so how does this detract from the human(ity) interface with the technology? On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone see the newest issue of Remix magazine (Massive Attack cover)? There are a few reactions to Chris Cowie's statements about doing away with vinyl in favor of mp3s and Final Scratch. Not sure what issue his statements were in - however - one letter writer was from the Detroit area and mentioned how the philosophy behind techno music was less about blindly embracing technological advances and more about the humanity behind the machine. I still have the issue with the letter but not the issue that the writer was responding to. If anyone does have it could they pass it along as it seems Remix's website doesn't have it available. I'd like to hear other people's responses to this topic but if it degrades into a vinyl vs. Final Scratch argument then I'm bowing out. can opener in hand MEK
Re: (313) Remix of Burujha? track ID
Hi there, Don't know what the first track is, but it samples a Herb Alpert track from his '1980' LP, called 'Rise'. Funnily enough, the break of this track was used for Biggie's 'Hypnotize', really classic break. This doesn't answer your question, but maybe you can get this album to tide you over... Don't know the second one, it's wicked though! The third one is the 'Dub Mix' of 'Sangue de Beirona' by Cesaria Evora, produced by Francois Kervorkian and Joe Clausell (I think...), on Wave. That site (deephousepage.com) is incredible!! Andrew
Re: (313) remix THIS
sean deason wrote on Tue, 29 Oct 2002 about following: Hey gang! Thanks to my good buddy Kent Williams (of Iowa City, Iowa), the parts for remixing/reworking The Sh*t are now available for download. hey mr deason, the list, my remix is now done, and available for download; i still ain't happy with the mix (i dunno, sounds a bit muddy or something) but this is the best i could come up with these sounds (i didn't actually use many of the original samples) and my equipment. i can get it fixed if needed, though. i had to make separate page for the link for obvious reasons :) grab it from here: http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/deason.html sakke -- all systems are go
Re: (313) remix THIS
10/29/2002 12:10:35 PM, sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey gang! Thanks to my good buddy Kent Williams (of Iowa City, Iowa), the parts for remixing/reworking The Sh*t are now available for download. http://home.mchsi.com/~chaircrusher/ Is this a competition? Or just for shiggles? Anything gonna come out of it, or? Just curious. :) -- ive always lubed my ian , i dont underdtand why ppl bitch and moan and argue with him - Raine Maggio (R.I.P. 9/18/83 - 9/9/02) Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, new sample revolution, boston) Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html http://www.djentropy.comhttp://www.ne-hardcore.com http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.comhttp://www.karmaloop.com Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html There is no ONE right way to live - Daniel Quinn Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see. Educate the narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel. - Narra Mine - Genacide II
RE: (313) remix THIS
I would hope if there is something really good, and I mean really good, he would consider releasing a remix comp. And I do mean REALLY good, I wouldn't expect sean to waste his time just to be nice. jeff -Original Message- From: DJ Entropy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:08 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org; sean deason Subject: Re: (313) remix THIS Is this a competition? Or just for shiggles? Anything gonna come out of it, or? Just curious. :)
Re: (313) remix THIS
hehehe, i already know *exactly* what i'm going to do with this. From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) remix THIS Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:10:35 -0500 Hey gang! Thanks to my good buddy Kent Williams (of Iowa City, Iowa), the parts for remixing/reworking The Sh*t are now available for download. http://home.mchsi.com/~chaircrusher/ p.s. dont be shocked by the picture of me looking like a tan plastikman, it was taken 3 years ago :^) sean _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: (313) remix THIS
10/30/2002 5:40:37 PM, Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehehe, i already know *exactly* what i'm going to do with this. Speed it up to a listenable tempo, I hope! Btw, what key are those stabs in? From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) remix THIS Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:10:35 -0500 Hey gang! Thanks to my good buddy Kent Williams (of Iowa City, Iowa), the parts for remixing/reworking The Sh*t are now available for download. http://home.mchsi.com/~chaircrusher/ p.s. dont be shocked by the picture of me looking like a tan plastikman, it was taken 3 years ago :^) sean _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- ive always lubed my ian , i dont underdtand why ppl bitch and moan and argue with him - Raine Maggio (R.I.P. 9/18/83 - 9/9/02) Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, new sample revolution, boston) Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html http://www.djentropy.comhttp://www.ne-hardcore.com http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.comhttp://www.karmaloop.com Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html There is no ONE right way to live - Daniel Quinn Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see. Educate the narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel. - Narra Mine - Genacide II
Re: (313) remix THIS
hell yes. im all over this mofo nice pic Sean, the bottom one is me. - Original Message - From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: (313) remix THIS Hey gang! Thanks to my good buddy Kent Williams (of Iowa City, Iowa), the parts for remixing/reworking The Sh*t are now available for download. http://home.mchsi.com/~chaircrusher/ p.s. dont be shocked by the picture of me looking like a tan plastikman, it was taken 3 years ago :^) sean
Re: (313) remix THIS
ohh yeah! didnt recognize you with the new hat :^) - Original Message - From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Re: (313) remix THIS hell yes. im all over this mofo nice pic Sean, the bottom one is me. - Original Message - From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: (313) remix THIS Hey gang! Thanks to my good buddy Kent Williams (of Iowa City, Iowa), the parts for remixing/reworking The Sh*t are now available for download. http://home.mchsi.com/~chaircrusher/ p.s. dont be shocked by the picture of me looking like a tan plastikman, it was taken 3 years ago :^) sean
