Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these days.. he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... but that he used to like otis redding. He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990. He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play black music.. not in any way racist [didn't come across like that anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me! It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way ! Eamonn
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the second part..well, that's fukt up odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac MEK D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM: Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these days.. he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... but that he used to like otis redding. He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990. He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play black music.. not in any way racist [didn't come across like that anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me! It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way ! Eamonn
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the second part..well, that's fukt up odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac I think he still plays the odd old style set.. but mostly he's playing pretty banging techno from what I can make out.. maybe someone out there has heard him DJ recently ? I'm actually pretty ignorant to his earlier stuff, I've no idea about any of the Italo Disco stuff.. if that's the right term ? Eamonn
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
I'm listening to this mix by him http://media.emergency-music.org/audio/AR161205.mp3 it's from December 05 and there's plenty of blue notes in the music he's playing and the vocals sound pretty soulful (in that robotic disco fashion) so I think he might be talking out of his... maybe he's dropped it all in the last 6 months and is playing monotone loops I doubt it though - people hire him for gigs because of his Italo sound if he didn't play blue notes then he wouldn't be able to perform Problemz - his bread and butter he's spouting nonsense MEK
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
i agree with whoever said he's saying nonsenseor expressing himself poorly anyways..does that mean italo is ok because it's white people trying to sing (usually poorly) like black people? maybe he's going for a really cheesey white euro sound...i hope he just has a sense of humor and is knowingly playing crap...or trying on some silly conceptual dj concept in spite of his own taste...still it's just really stupid and twisted uber-cool euro style or somethingwhy are so many dj's so retarded and singleminded, what's the point in narrowing your focus, nevermind the retarded shxt he's focussed on, ug anyways all that aside, his last record (pulled from 20+ year old tapes) as Avida, is really damn good...problemes era stuff, some stuff equally as good as problemes...and i am kinda burnt out on italo/disco revival/disco re-issues etc ...but it's good, if you like problemes d'amour you would probably like it...
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way ! Eamonn You could argue that all music is MOBO but the awards where about addressing the balance in the UK, however they did give us Lemar s and if he's the future of UK Soul then I'm the Pope... m
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
in italy black music is usually used to indicated rap and RnB and to a lesser extent, soul and blues. f. - Original Message - From: D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these days.. he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... but that he used to like otis redding. He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990. He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play black music.. not in any way racist [didn't come across like that anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me! It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way ! Eamonn -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 27/07/2006
RE: (313) robotnik dj style?
Did I miss an Analord mix? Linky linky? Ta -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 July 2006 21:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; D1; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) robotnik dj style? Then is meant to imply an if/then conditional statement. If he didn't mean it like it sounded, then whatever (to present it's opposite). But in 2006 there aren't too many ways you can mean that. I know it's the wrong thread and all, but I rarely get my hands set to type so...that analord mix has been on repeat for a day and a half now. And I'm loving some of the ones I passed on big time! Thanks senor kowalski! K mwnb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:57 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; D1; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? MEK Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 03:52:40 PM: On Jul 27, 2006, at 16:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Fxck him then. I'm not sure if that's the right way to react. Playing Devil's Advocate, he may believe that being white disqualifies him from playing black music. I don't know the guy so maybe I'm giving him too much credit. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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There was a programme on Channel 4 a while back which claimed that Gospel music originated in the Hebrides (remote Scottish islands) - it did not originate in Africa, but from stern Gaelic speaking Scots who passed it on to their slaves -Original Message- From: D1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 July 2006 23:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Matt Kane's Brain; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these days.. he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... but that he used to like otis redding. He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990. He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play black music.. not in any way racist [didn't come across like that anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me! It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way ! Eamonn # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) robotnik dj style?
What is a blue note? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2006 00:01 To: D1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal; Matt Kane's Brain Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the second part..well, that's fukt up odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac MEK D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM: Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these days.. he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... but that he used to like otis redding. He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990. He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play black music.. not in any way racist [didn't come across like that anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me! It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way ! Eamonn # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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more importantly, make sure you know of the brown note - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 5:51 AM Subject: RE: (313) robotnik dj style? What is a blue note? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2006 00:01 To: D1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal; Matt Kane's Brain Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the second part..well, that's fukt up odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac MEK D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM: Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these days.. he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... but that he used to like otis redding. He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990. He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play black music.. not in any way racist [didn't come across like that anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me! It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way ! Eamonn # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) robotnik dj style?
Haha - I know of that! -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2006 09:03 To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; D1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal; Matt Kane's Brain Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? more importantly, make sure you know of the brown note - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 5:51 AM Subject: RE: (313) robotnik dj style? What is a blue note? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2006 00:01 To: D1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal; Matt Kane's Brain Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the second part..well, that's fukt up odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac MEK D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM: Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these days.. he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... but that he used to like otis redding. He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990. He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play black music.. not in any way racist [didn't come across like that anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me! It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way ! Eamonn # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
There was a programme on Channel 4 a while back which claimed that Gospel music originated in the Hebrides (remote Scottish islands) - it did not originate in Africa, but from stern Gaelic speaking Scots who passed it on to their slaves Really, now that I'd like to hear... m
(313) Analord Mix link (was Re: (313) robotnik dj style?)
Here you go Rob. http://www.vocode.com/recommends_011.shtml Not listened myself yet. robin... Robert Taylor wrote: Did I miss an Analord mix? Linky linky? Ta
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_note On Jul 28, 2006, at 5:51, Robert Taylor wrote: What is a blue note? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2006 00:01 To: D1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal; Matt Kane's Brain Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the second part..well, that's fukt up odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac MEK D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM: Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these days.. he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals... but that he used to like otis redding. He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990. He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play black music.. not in any way racist [didn't come across like that anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me! It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way ! Eamonn ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ### -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
Well, that doesn't explain the I don't play blue notes thing. MEK fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 02:59:43 AM: in italy black music is usually used to indicated rap and RnB and to a lesser extent, soul and blues. f.
Re: (313) Analord Mix link (was Re: (313) robotnik dj style?)
does anyone else think that the 303 acid squiggle in that first track sounds just a bit like Popeye on some bender? I amz what I amz MEK robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 04:16:43 AM: Here you go Rob. http://www.vocode.com/recommends_011.shtml Not listened myself yet. robin... Robert Taylor wrote: Did I miss an Analord mix? Linky linky? Ta
Re: (313) Analord Mix link (was Re: (313) robotnik dj style?)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: Re: (313) Analord Mix link (was Re: (313) robotnik dj style?) does anyone else think that the 303 acid squiggle in that first track sounds just a bit like Popeye on some bender? I amz what I amz LOL. I spent ages trying convince my girlfriend of that a few months ago. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
On 7/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family there's also no excuse for that. tom
Re: (313) robotnik dj style?
Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a musical genre as Black. ... He also doesn't speak very good English. Yeah, right: I agree. As Starbucks calls espresso that horrendous and burnt-tasting black water; and says it loud and proud from zillion dollars TV commercials, seen by millions of people... As Pizza Hut calls pizza that strange thing covered with a white melted tire they call mozzarella; and says it loud and proud from zillion dollars TV commercials, seen by millions of people... So I think that Alexander Robotnick can use the espression black music to refer to some general american or hiphop or rnb or whatever he means-music, once in a lifetime, in a private conversation, heard by 2-3 person (I suppose) and maybe without speaking a very good english ;) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: (313) robotnik dj style? Everybody, Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a musical genre as Black. I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell you with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White Supramatist. He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He also doesn't speak very good English. As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually, he plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His show is very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list will enjoy it. e Scatalogics 205 15th Streeet #A7 Brooklyn, NY 11215 www.scatalogics.com Talent Copes but Genius Steals
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He also doesn't speak very good English. I imagined that this was a contributing factor. Still, the thing about not liking blue notes in music begs a futher explanation. Black music in Italy maybe be thought of differently than black music in the US or UK but musicians are musicians and blue notes are blue notes regardless of where they are from. Saying you hate blue notes in music just seems poorly thought our OR expressed when the music you play contains it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but it leaves me with ??? over my head. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] cs.com To 07/28/06 09:31 AM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) robotnik dj style? Everybody, Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a musical genre as Black. I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell you with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White Supramatist. He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He also doesn't speak very good English. As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually, he plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His show is very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list will enjoy it. e Scatalogics 205 15th Streeet #A7 Brooklyn, NY 11215 www.scatalogics.com Talent Copes but Genius Steals
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Probably not to be honest. But if you play and create music that is heavily rooted in one culture and then you say you don't like the music from that culture - it's weird. MEK Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 11:35:14 AM: I wonder if I'd be equally criticized if I said I didn't like white music [which, when it comes to dance music, I usually don't...] +odd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He also doesn't speak very good English. I imagined that this was a contributing factor. Still, the thing about not liking blue notes in music begs a futher explanation. Black music in Italy maybe be thought of differently than black music in the US or UK but musicians are musicians and blue notes are blue notes regardless of where they are from. Saying you hate blue notes in music just seems poorly thought our OR expressed when the music you play contains it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but it leaves me with ??? over my head. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] cs.com To 07/28/06 09:31 AM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) robotnik dj style? Everybody, Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a musical genre as Black. I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell you with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White Supramatist. He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He also doesn't speak very good English. As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually, he plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His show is very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list will enjoy it. e Scatalogics 205 15th Streeet #A7 Brooklyn, NY 11215 www.scatalogics.com Talent Copes but Genius Steals -- Todd Sines director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002 // connecting the space between + within.
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I think my point was a bit overlooked. I think the problem everyone has is that in Europe people have a genre they call Black music. Try replacing Black music with Polka and see if what you think Robotnick was trying to say seems as offensive. I'm not a particularly big fan of RB, so if I said RB has not influenced my music in anyway it would not be offensive, it would be a matter of personal taste. But what if the name for RB where I was from is Black instead of RB? Now, I think refering to all music made by African-Americans as Black music is insensitive, but you would need to change the racial outlook of millions of Middle-aged Europeans, first. I also was snot privy to the original conversation that started this thread, so maybe I'm over-simplifying it. It's just my 2¢. e Probably not to be honest. But if you play and create music that is heavily rooted in one culture and then you say you don't like the music from that culture - it's weird. MEK Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 11:35:14 AM: I wonder if I'd be equally criticized if I said I didn't like white music [which, when it comes to dance music, I usually don't...] +odd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He also doesn't speak very good English. I imagined that this was a contributing factor. Still, the thing about not liking blue notes in music begs a futher explanation. Black music in Italy maybe be thought of differently than black music in the US or UK but musicians are musicians and blue notes are blue notes regardless of where they are from. Saying you hate blue notes in music just seems poorly thought our OR expressed when the music you play contains it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but it leaves me with ??? over my head. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] cs.com To 07/28/06 09:31 AM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) robotnik dj style? Everybody, Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a musical genre as Black. I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell you with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White Supramatist. He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He also doesn't speak very good English. As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually, he plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His show is very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list will enjoy it. e Scatalogics 205 15th Streeet #A7 Brooklyn, NY 11215 www.scatalogics.com Talent Copes but Genius Steals -- Todd Sines director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002 // connecting the space between + within.
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Saying you hate blue notes in music but play (and made) the type of music he does is contrary though. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 12:07:44 PM: I think my point was a bit overlooked. I think the problem everyone has is that in Europe people have a genre they call Black music. Try replacing Black music with Polka and see if what you think Robotnick was trying to say seems as offensive. I'm not a particularly big fan of RB, so if I said RB has not influenced my music in anyway it would not be offensive, it would be a matter of personal taste. But what if the name for RB where I was from is Black instead of RB? Now, I think refering to all music made by African-Americans as Black music is insensitive, but you would need to change the racial outlook of millions of Middle-aged Europeans, first. I also was snot privy to the original conversation that started this thread, so maybe I'm over-simplifying it. It's just my 2¢. e Probably not to be honest. But if you play and create music that is heavily rooted in one culture and then you say you don't like the music from that culture - it's weird. MEK Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 11:35:14 AM: I wonder if I'd be equally criticized if I said I didn't like white music [which, when it comes to dance music, I usually don't...] +odd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He also doesn't speak very good English. I imagined that this was a contributing factor. Still, the thing about not liking blue notes in music begs a futher explanation. Black music in Italy maybe be thought of differently than black music in the US or UK but musicians are musicians and blue notes are blue notes regardless of where they are from. Saying you hate blue notes in music just seems poorly thought our OR expressed when the music you play contains it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but it leaves me with ??? over my head. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] cs.com To 07/28/06 09:31 AM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) robotnik dj style? Everybody, Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a musical genre as Black. I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell you with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White Supramatist. He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He also doesn't speak very good English. As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually, he plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His show is very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list will enjoy it. e Scatalogics 205 15th Streeet #A7 Brooklyn, NY 11215 www.scatalogics.com Talent Copes but Genius Steals -- Todd Sines director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002 // connecting the space between + within.
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I haven't heard him DJ ever, but I had an interesting conversation with him last month .. he told me that he doesn't like playing black music .. which I thought was kinda strange. I'm pretty sure he was coming at it from an aesthetic view point.. still weird though !! He suggested I try it sometime .. which would have been pretty difficult.. I'd have had to throw away 90% of my record collection ! Eamonn / D1 On 27 Jul 2006, at 18:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, alexander robotnik is making his way to the west coast in a couple of weeks I assume as part of a NA tour. Anyone seen him on this tour or lately? From what I understand he plays modern minimal techno off a laptop but I've not seen him play before. Maybe with the release of his old problemz era work he will delve into that 80s postdisco sound he is so well known for. But honestly, that sound is caned to death here in SF and I would prefer to hear his take on newer dance sounds. thanks jimmy hbot
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Fxck him then. k -Original Message- From: D1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? I haven't heard him DJ ever, but I had an interesting conversation with him last month .. he told me that he doesn't like playing black music .. which I thought was kinda strange. I'm pretty sure he was coming at it from an aesthetic view point.. still weird though !! He suggested I try it sometime .. which would have been pretty difficult.. I'd have had to throw away 90% of my record collection ! Eamonn / D1 On 27 Jul 2006, at 18:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, alexander robotnik is making his way to the west coast in a couple of weeks I assume as part of a NA tour. Anyone seen him on this tour or lately? From what I understand he plays modern minimal techno off a laptop but I've not seen him play before. Maybe with the release of his old problemz era work he will delve into that 80s postdisco sound he is so well known for. But honestly, that sound is caned to death here in SF and I would prefer to hear his take on newer dance sounds. thanks jimmy hbot
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Indeed. On 27 Jul 2006, at 21:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Fxck him then. k -Original Message- From: D1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? I haven't heard him DJ ever, but I had an interesting conversation with him last month .. he told me that he doesn't like playing black music .. which I thought was kinda strange. I'm pretty sure he was coming at it from an aesthetic view point.. still weird though !! He suggested I try it sometime .. which would have been pretty difficult.. I'd have had to throw away 90% of my record collection ! Eamonn / D1 On 27 Jul 2006, at 18:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, alexander robotnik is making his way to the west coast in a couple of weeks I assume as part of a NA tour. Anyone seen him on this tour or lately? From what I understand he plays modern minimal techno off a laptop but I've not seen him play before. Maybe with the release of his old problemz era work he will delve into that 80s postdisco sound he is so well known for. But honestly, that sound is caned to death here in SF and I would prefer to hear his take on newer dance sounds. thanks jimmy hbot
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On Jul 27, 2006, at 16:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Fxck him then. I'm not sure if that's the right way to react. Playing Devil's Advocate, he may believe that being white disqualifies him from playing black music. I don't know the guy so maybe I'm giving him too much credit. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? MEK Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 03:52:40 PM: On Jul 27, 2006, at 16:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Fxck him then. I'm not sure if that's the right way to react. Playing Devil's Advocate, he may believe that being white disqualifies him from playing black music. I don't know the guy so maybe I'm giving him too much credit. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Then is meant to imply an if/then conditional statement. If he didn't mean it like it sounded, then whatever (to present it's opposite). But in 2006 there aren't too many ways you can mean that. I know it's the wrong thread and all, but I rarely get my hands set to type so...that analord mix has been on repeat for a day and a half now. And I'm loving some of the ones I passed on big time! Thanks senor kowalski! K mwnb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:57 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; D1; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stoddard, Kamal Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style? Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? MEK Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 03:52:40 PM: On Jul 27, 2006, at 16:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Fxck him then. I'm not sure if that's the right way to react. Playing Devil's Advocate, he may believe that being white disqualifies him from playing black music. I don't know the guy so maybe I'm giving him too much credit. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 7/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or why I wouldn't write him off. It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded statement. I hope there comes some explanation soonish. Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you? all i know is that when he played at the festival a couple years ago, he was playing what sounded like trance to my ears. tom
