RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-06 Thread FC2 Richards
what if it was DJ T-1000 commanding everyone to dance...as he usually does.
I think I would obey because he is a bad mother f*ucker!



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Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


Amen Jeff!  It always bugs the hell out of me when the
self-elected party revolutionary leader stands up at
the show and starts yelling at people to start dancing.
 If he/she needs other people to dance for them to fell
comfortable with dancing themselves, maybe they should
get drunk or something.  Bite me is what I usually
end up thinking...


On Mon, 04 Nov 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:

 
 While I respect your opinion and understand that your
 comments are made in 
 the context of this discussion (and also that dance
 music is ostensibly 
 made for dancing), I have to say that I find the
notion
 that someone gets 
 to say how *I* need to react to something else in the
 sense that I can be 
 marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at
 least as problematic as 
 a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by
 whomever. I don't dance 
 and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma
 or an ill formed 
 sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't
 enjoy the music nor 
 does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a
 performative context 
 or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that
I
 haven't left the 
 venue should say something.
  In an age where all kinds of criticism
 (literary, etc.) has freed 
 art from static notions tied with the artist, I find
it
 interesting that 
 the monolithic notion of must-dancing still rules. I
 do understand the 
 need for it and I understand how it creates a
necessary
 symbiosis - but why 
 does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them
to
 enjoy and 
 appreciate something?
 We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable
 with dancing as each 
 other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any
 behavior or reaction to art 
 is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no
tie
 between art and 
 artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic
to
 dictate behavior to 
 a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this
 particular post (as I 
 can see the connection you are making vis a vis the
 trend), but rather 
 towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I
 don't dance, I am 
 unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really
 about the music OR 
 the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a
 way which is genuine 
 to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's
 enjoyment. .02.
 
  
 
  jeff
 
 
 At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote:
 This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In
 one respect, people go
 to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the
other
 respect, they go to
 watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his
 normal context and into
 that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her
 rather than interacting.
 (another argument which I'm not going to pontificate
 on here)  So you get
 one half of the audience dancing and the other just
 watching. This has been,
 IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like
 in recent years. Too
 much watching, not enough dancing.
 
 I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there
was
 far too much of the
 latter going on. You could see him actually looking
 rather annoyed as one
 absolute classic after another (Final Frontier,
 Magnese) was being dropped
 only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from
the
 crowd. How must a DJ
 feel when they are faced by banks of motionless
people
 looking at them spin
 some records?

TJJ

~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~

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http://www.peoplepc.com 


Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-06 Thread seeklektek


 what if it was DJ T-1000 commanding everyone to dance...as he usually
does.
 I think I would obey because he is a bad mother f*ucker!


Third Reich N' Roll?

 .o0O}seeklektek{O0o.



Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-06 Thread glyph1001

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FC2 Richards wrote:


what if it was DJ T-1000 commanding everyone to dance...as he usually does.
I think I would obey because he is a bad mother f*ucker!



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From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


Amen Jeff!  It always bugs the hell out of me when the
self-elected party revolutionary leader stands up at
the show and starts yelling at people to start dancing.
If he/she needs other people to dance for them to fell
comfortable with dancing themselves, maybe they should
get drunk or something.  Bite me is what I usually
end up thinking...


On Mon, 04 Nov 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:

 


While I respect your opinion and understand that your
comments are made in 
the context of this discussion (and also that dance
music is ostensibly 
made for dancing), I have to say that I find the
   


notion
 

that someone gets 
to say how *I* need to react to something else in the
sense that I can be 
marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at
least as problematic as 
a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by
whomever. I don't dance 
and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma
or an ill formed 
sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't
enjoy the music nor 
does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a
performative context 
or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that
   


I
 

haven't left the 
venue should say something.

In an age where all kinds of criticism
(literary, etc.) has freed 
art from static notions tied with the artist, I find
   


it
 

interesting that 
the monolithic notion of must-dancing still rules. I
do understand the 
need for it and I understand how it creates a
   


necessary
 

symbiosis - but why 
does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them
   


to
 

enjoy and 
appreciate something?

We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable
with dancing as each 
other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any
behavior or reaction to art 
is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no
   


tie
 

between art and 
artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic
   


to
 

dictate behavior to 
a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this
particular post (as I 
can see the connection you are making vis a vis the
trend), but rather 
towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I
don't dance, I am 
unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really
about the music OR 
the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a
way which is genuine 
to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's

enjoyment. .02.


   

  


jeff


At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote:
   


This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In
 


one respect, people go
   


to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the
 


other
 


respect, they go to
   


watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his
 


normal context and into
   


that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her
 


rather than interacting.
   


(another argument which I'm not going to pontificate
 


on here)  So you get
   


one half of the audience dancing and the other just
 


watching. This has been,
   


IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like
 


in recent years. Too
   


much watching, not enough dancing.

I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there
 


was
 


far too much of the
   


latter going on. You could see him actually looking
 


rather annoyed as one
   


absolute classic after another (Final Frontier,
 


Magnese) was being dropped
   


only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from
 


the
 


crowd. How must a DJ
   


feel when they are faced by banks of motionless
 


people
 


looking at them spin
   


some records?
 



TJJ

~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~

PeoplePC:  It's for people. And it's just smart. 
http://www.peoplepc.com 

 






Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I am yet to read all the responses on 313 but the poll looks very mainstream
UK-centric to me.

I laugh only at seeing Tiesto at number 1 as I have heard the album... I
recall Armand Van Helden doing a parody of Euro-trance on his second album,
a skit in which he boots off a Euro-trance DJ - with Tiesto, it's that sound
but not meant to be parodic.

Sure DJ Mag claims to be an international poll, but in that case why don't
they join forces with dance magazines from around the world?

DJ Mag is quite hard to get over here, more people would buy Muzik by
surface or air, even more would read local publications, and I don't recall
seeing it in North America either. People outside the UK would primarily
find out about the poll from Dotmusic (a UK site) or other news sources
picking it up from the UK sources. I would like to know exactly how
internationally representative it is.

I find this all as another example of imperial arrogance from certain
factions of the UK music industry.

DJ Mag did a special on the Australian dance scene - written by UK
journalists visiting - and even got one person's gender wrong, so since then
I haven't rated it that highly.

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  If the same magazine was to carry out an
  indepedent chart based on nothing more than a
  DJ's skills rather than just what overexposed
  DJ happens to get the majority of plastic
  clubbers 'jumpin' after 10 pints of Stella or
  a handfill of moody pills every saturday night...
  then you know the list would be quite different.

 I'd say making people dance is rather essential DJ skill... Everything
 else is secondary.

 A good and fair point Otto, you'll have to excuse my momentary lapse into
 musical snobbery :)


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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Another related point. I would bet that the vast majority of pollsters were
from English speaking countries.

Until a couple of years ago Sasha had NEVER played in Japan (not sure if he
has since), sooo... he is a non-entity in Japan and has said so himself. So
how many Japanese votes were counted?

What about South America? Germany?

Until DJ Mag makes an effort to reach out to these countries, and their
demographics, than calling this internationally representative is
misleading.



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To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:34 PM


 I am yet to read all the responses on 313 but the poll looks very mainstream
 UK-centric to me.

 I laugh only at seeing Tiesto at number 1 as I have heard the album... I
 recall Armand Van Helden doing a parody of Euro-trance on his second album,
 a skit in which he boots off a Euro-trance DJ - with Tiesto, it's that sound
 but not meant to be parodic.

 Sure DJ Mag claims to be an international poll, but in that case why don't
 they join forces with dance magazines from around the world?

 DJ Mag is quite hard to get over here, more people would buy Muzik by
 surface or air, even more would read local publications, and I don't recall
 seeing it in North America either. People outside the UK would primarily
 find out about the poll from Dotmusic (a UK site) or other news sources
 picking it up from the UK sources. I would like to know exactly how
 internationally representative it is.

 I find this all as another example of imperial arrogance from certain
 factions of the UK music industry.

 DJ Mag did a special on the Australian dance scene - written by UK
 journalists visiting - and even got one person's gender wrong, so since then
 I haven't rated it that highly.

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  If the same magazine was to carry out an
  indepedent chart based on nothing more than a
  DJ's skills rather than just what overexposed
  DJ happens to get the majority of plastic
  clubbers 'jumpin' after 10 pints of Stella or
  a handfill of moody pills every saturday night...
  then you know the list would be quite different.

 I'd say making people dance is rather essential DJ skill... Everything
 else is secondary.

 A good and fair point Otto, you'll have to excuse my momentary lapse into
 musical snobbery :)


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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Actually, Jeff doesn't claim to be a perfectionist, he believes in taking a
risk, his belief being: sometimes a move will come off, sometimes it won't,
but it's about the excitement level. He has elaborated on this in
interviews.
Me, I prefer that style to the seamless mixing of progressive house
stalwarts, a philosophy that is increasingly now paramount in deep house
circles (UK especially), where DJs are obsessed with mixing according to
keys and beats and the mix supersedes the records  sure it's seamless
and perfect but it's very mono. It's not so much deep house as sleep house.

All this reminds me of a recent interview Chuck D gave here when he lamented
that today's pop producers and recording artists leave out the mistakes in a
record when mistakes make a record real and give it soul. He leaves them
in. So does Mills.



 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
 Date:  02/11/2002 21:44:50
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC:  313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pryor, Ryan N)


 live at the liquid room is laden with errors. it is a classic set. but it
 has at least 5 big mistakes. for a recorded mix that is a lot. mills is a
 sloppy dj. but he can get away with it because of his record selection.

 He can get away with it because he's so damn quick. When a DJ works the
 decks  mixer as much and as quickly as Mills does then there's bound to be
 some mistakes.








RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-04 Thread ian cheshire
Technique or no technique I think we are lucky that someone takes the time
to do
something with techno rather than waiting every 3-4 mins to mix a track, so
what if there are mistkes, crickey I would hate to go to a club and hear a
CD performance but then that is my own personal preference  :)


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From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 November 2002 13:27
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


I can't believe you're arguing whether Mills is a good or bad DJ when TIESTO
came in at 1. ;(

Incidentally, Farina gave an interview here just lately and still says
technique is important to his style of DJing.

Quote:

 Some trainspotters count the number of mistakes a DJ makes, while the vast
 majority wouldn't care if there were a technical mistake in a set or not.
 How important is technique when it comes to a strong DJ?

 I think it's essential. Coming from Chicago technique was everything
 because everyone had the same records, so that was the way you
 distinguished yourself from the rest.


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 Date:  03/11/2002 8:29:13
 To:  FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC:  313@hyperreal.org

 MY point was that mills isnt great at mixing records.

 ifs its due to his speed, he should slow down a bit. quality over
quantity.

 I think his track selection is great though, in terms of picking which
 record goes next.

 he does suck on a 909 too :)

 Im no mills hater by any means, I was at agents of change and enjoyed it
 set.

 -Joe


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 Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD




 let me think...good tracks...tricks...hmmm...so you just said he is
 terrible, and the contradicted yourself in the next line. you didn't even
 put a filler sentance in. I'm not going to argue with you, we all have
 our
 opinions, but there is something wrong with what you said. Elaborate a
 little more so others can argue with you...

 Oh dear! This is what is known as *sarcasm* FC3 .. to explain that means
 that Martijn thinks Mills is a brilliant DJ really and should be at the
 top
 (or at least near the top) of the list.




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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Toby Frith
This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In one respect, people go
to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the other respect, they go to
watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his normal context and into
that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her rather than interacting.
(another argument which I'm not going to pontificate on here)  So you get
one half of the audience dancing and the other just watching. This has been,
IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like in recent years. Too
much watching, not enough dancing.

I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there was far too much of the
latter going on. You could see him actually looking rather annoyed as one
absolute classic after another (Final Frontier, Magnese) was being dropped
only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from the crowd. How must a DJ
feel when they are faced by banks of motionless people looking at them spin
some records?









- Original Message -
From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:46 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


 Actually, Jeff doesn't claim to be a perfectionist, he believes in taking
a
 risk, his belief being: sometimes a move will come off, sometimes it
won't,
 but it's about the excitement level. He has elaborated on this in
 interviews.
 Me, I prefer that style to the seamless mixing of progressive house
 stalwarts, a philosophy that is increasingly now paramount in deep house
 circles (UK especially), where DJs are obsessed with mixing according to
 keys and beats and the mix supersedes the records  sure it's seamless
 and perfect but it's very mono. It's not so much deep house as sleep
house.

 All this reminds me of a recent interview Chuck D gave here when he
lamented
 that today's pop producers and recording artists leave out the mistakes in
a
 record when mistakes make a record real and give it soul. He leaves
them
 in. So does Mills.



  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
  Date: 02/11/2002 21:44:50
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  CC: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pryor, Ryan N)
 
 
  live at the liquid room is laden with errors. it is a classic set. but
it
  has at least 5 big mistakes. for a recorded mix that is a lot. mills is
a
  sloppy dj. but he can get away with it because of his record selection.
 
  He can get away with it because he's so damn quick. When a DJ works the
  decks  mixer as much and as quickly as Mills does then there's bound to
be
  some mistakes.
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread T.J.Johnson
This is true, Toby.  But, I must say that if Mills
didn't enjoy being watched, he could very well conceal
himself like Hawtin does at his plastic parties.  So
this leads me to personally believe that Mills enjoys
the attention of people wtching his skills...


Toby Frith wrote:

 
 This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In
 one respect, people go
 to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the other
 respect, they go to
 watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his
 normal context and into
 that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her
 rather than interacting.
 (another argument which I'm not going to pontificate
on
 here)  So you get
 one half of the audience dancing and the other just
 watching. This has been,
 IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like
 in recent years. Too
 much watching, not enough dancing.
 
 I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there was
 far too much of the
 latter going on. You could see him actually looking
 rather annoyed as one
 absolute classic after another (Final Frontier,
 Magnese) was being dropped
 only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from the
 crowd. How must a DJ
 feel when they are faced by banks of motionless people
 looking at them spin
 some records?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:46 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
 
 
  Actually, Jeff doesn't claim to be a perfectionist,
 he believes in taking
 a
  risk, his belief being: sometimes a move will come
 off, sometimes it
 won't,
  but it's about the excitement level. He has
 elaborated on this in
  interviews.
  Me, I prefer that style to the seamless mixing of
 progressive house
  stalwarts, a philosophy that is increasingly now
 paramount in deep house
  circles (UK especially), where DJs are obsessed with
 mixing according to
  keys and beats and the mix supersedes the records
  sure it's seamless
  and perfect but it's very mono. It's not so much
deep
 house as sleep
 house.
 
  All this reminds me of a recent interview Chuck D
 gave here when he
 lamented
  that today's pop producers and recording artists
 leave out the mistakes in
 a
  record when mistakes make a record real and give it
 soul. He leaves
 them
  in. So does Mills.
 
 
 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD
(Mills)
   Date: 02/11/2002 21:44:50
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CC: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pryor, Ryan
N)
  
  
   live at the liquid room is laden with errors. it
is
 a classic set. but
 it
   has at least 5 big mistakes. for a recorded mix
 that is a lot. mills is
 a
   sloppy dj. but he can get away with it because of
 his record selection.
  
   He can get away with it because he's so damn
quick.
 When a DJ works the
   decks  mixer as much and as quickly as Mills does
 then there's bound to
 be
   some mistakes.
  
  
  
  
  
  

TJJ

~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~

PeoplePC:  It's for people. And it's just smart. 
http://www.peoplepc.com 


Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Because maybe he comes from the era of DJing where it is an interactive
performance?

The traditional house DJing is like call and response, like in a church.

That's how I like it!

OK, it's 1.30 am and I am rambling now!

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 Subject:  Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
 Date:  05/11/2002 1:14:26
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 CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org

 This is true, Toby. But, I must say that if Mills
 didn't enjoy being watched, he could very well conceal
 himself like Hawtin does at his plastic parties. So
 this leads me to personally believe that Mills enjoys
 the attention of people wtching his skills...


 Toby Frith wrote:




RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread ian cheshire
yeah but watching Richie is like watching paint dry, no offence but I
have never seen him work it like Mills does. Few have seen him smile as well
:)

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From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 November 2002 14:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


This is true, Toby.  But, I must say that if Mills
didn't enjoy being watched, he could very well conceal
himself like Hawtin does at his plastic parties.  So
this leads me to personally believe that Mills enjoys
the attention of people wtching his skills...


Toby Frith wrote:


 This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In
 one respect, people go
 to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the other
 respect, they go to
 watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his
 normal context and into
 that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her
 rather than interacting.
 (another argument which I'm not going to pontificate
on
 here)  So you get
 one half of the audience dancing and the other just
 watching. This has been,
 IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like
 in recent years. Too
 much watching, not enough dancing.

 I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there was
 far too much of the
 latter going on. You could see him actually looking
 rather annoyed as one
 absolute classic after another (Final Frontier,
 Magnese) was being dropped
 only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from the
 crowd. How must a DJ
 feel when they are faced by banks of motionless people
 looking at them spin
 some records?









 - Original Message -
 From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:46 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


  Actually, Jeff doesn't claim to be a perfectionist,
 he believes in taking
 a
  risk, his belief being: sometimes a move will come
 off, sometimes it
 won't,
  but it's about the excitement level. He has
 elaborated on this in
  interviews.
  Me, I prefer that style to the seamless mixing of
 progressive house
  stalwarts, a philosophy that is increasingly now
 paramount in deep house
  circles (UK especially), where DJs are obsessed with
 mixing according to
  keys and beats and the mix supersedes the records
  sure it's seamless
  and perfect but it's very mono. It's not so much
deep
 house as sleep
 house.
 
  All this reminds me of a recent interview Chuck D
 gave here when he
 lamented
  that today's pop producers and recording artists
 leave out the mistakes in
 a
  record when mistakes make a record real and give it
 soul. He leaves
 them
  in. So does Mills.
 
 
 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD
(Mills)
   Date: 02/11/2002 21:44:50
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CC: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pryor, Ryan
N)
  
  
   live at the liquid room is laden with errors. it
is
 a classic set. but
 it
   has at least 5 big mistakes. for a recorded mix
 that is a lot. mills is
 a
   sloppy dj. but he can get away with it because of
 his record selection.
  
   He can get away with it because he's so damn
quick.
 When a DJ works the
   decks  mixer as much and as quickly as Mills does
 then there's bound to
 be
   some mistakes.
  
  
  
  
  
  
 TJJ

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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Mxyzptlk
While I respect your opinion and understand that your comments are made in 
the context of this discussion (and also that dance music is ostensibly 
made for dancing), I have to say that I find the notion that someone gets 
to say how *I* need to react to something else in the sense that I can be 
marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at least as problematic as 
a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by whomever. I don't dance 
and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma or an ill formed 
sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy the music nor 
does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a performative context 
or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that I haven't left the 
venue should say something.
In an age where all kinds of criticism (literary, etc.) has freed 
art from static notions tied with the artist, I find it interesting that 
the monolithic notion of must-dancing still rules. I do understand the 
need for it and I understand how it creates a necessary symbiosis - but why 
does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them to enjoy and 
appreciate something?
We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable with dancing as each 
other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any behavior or reaction to art 
is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no tie between art and 
artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic to dictate behavior to 
a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this particular post (as I 
can see the connection you are making vis a vis the trend), but rather 
towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I don't dance, I am 
unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really about the music OR 
the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a way which is genuine 
to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's enjoyment. .02.


jeff


At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote:

This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In one respect, people go
to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the other respect, they go to
watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his normal context and into
that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her rather than interacting.
(another argument which I'm not going to pontificate on here)  So you get
one half of the audience dancing and the other just watching. This has been,
IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like in recent years. Too
much watching, not enough dancing.

I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there was far too much of the
latter going on. You could see him actually looking rather annoyed as one
absolute classic after another (Final Frontier, Magnese) was being dropped
only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from the crowd. How must a DJ
feel when they are faced by banks of motionless people looking at them spin
some records?





Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread T.J.Johnson
Amen Jeff!  It always bugs the hell out of me when the
self-elected party revolutionary leader stands up at
the show and starts yelling at people to start dancing.
 If he/she needs other people to dance for them to fell
comfortable with dancing themselves, maybe they should
get drunk or something.  Bite me is what I usually
end up thinking...


On Mon, 04 Nov 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:

 
 While I respect your opinion and understand that your
 comments are made in 
 the context of this discussion (and also that dance
 music is ostensibly 
 made for dancing), I have to say that I find the
notion
 that someone gets 
 to say how *I* need to react to something else in the
 sense that I can be 
 marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at
 least as problematic as 
 a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by
 whomever. I don't dance 
 and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma
 or an ill formed 
 sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't
 enjoy the music nor 
 does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a
 performative context 
 or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that
I
 haven't left the 
 venue should say something.
  In an age where all kinds of criticism
 (literary, etc.) has freed 
 art from static notions tied with the artist, I find
it
 interesting that 
 the monolithic notion of must-dancing still rules. I
 do understand the 
 need for it and I understand how it creates a
necessary
 symbiosis - but why 
 does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them
to
 enjoy and 
 appreciate something?
 We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable
 with dancing as each 
 other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any
 behavior or reaction to art 
 is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no
tie
 between art and 
 artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic
to
 dictate behavior to 
 a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this
 particular post (as I 
 can see the connection you are making vis a vis the
 trend), but rather 
 towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I
 don't dance, I am 
 unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really
 about the music OR 
 the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a
 way which is genuine 
 to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's
 enjoyment. .02.
 
  
 
  jeff
 
 
 At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote:
 This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In
 one respect, people go
 to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the
other
 respect, they go to
 watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his
 normal context and into
 that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her
 rather than interacting.
 (another argument which I'm not going to pontificate
 on here)  So you get
 one half of the audience dancing and the other just
 watching. This has been,
 IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like
 in recent years. Too
 much watching, not enough dancing.
 
 I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there
was
 far too much of the
 latter going on. You could see him actually looking
 rather annoyed as one
 absolute classic after another (Final Frontier,
 Magnese) was being dropped
 only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from
the
 crowd. How must a DJ
 feel when they are faced by banks of motionless
people
 looking at them spin
 some records?

TJJ

~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~

PeoplePC:  It's for people. And it's just smart. 
http://www.peoplepc.com 


Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Toby Frith
Mills (again) played a DJ set at the Royal Festival Hall in London recently
as the finale to the showing of his adaptation of the Metropolis soundtrack.
Seeing someone DJ at a venue (with seats) was rather bizarre. A large
section of the crowd rushed towards the front to dance, whilst the bemused
rest watched from their seats. Some people didn't know whether to dance or
to remain seated (including me!).  It did beg the question though, when
transported to a different atmosphere, did it really make any sense? I mean,
it's just a guy spinning a number of records.

I can't really articulate what I want to say, because it will mean going
into that whole artist/DJ argument which I can't be arsed with.




- Original Message -
From: Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cyclone Wehner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


 While I respect your opinion and understand that your comments are made in
 the context of this discussion (and also that dance music is ostensibly
 made for dancing), I have to say that I find the notion that someone gets
 to say how *I* need to react to something else in the sense that I can be
 marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at least as problematic as
 a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by whomever. I don't
dance
 and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma or an ill formed
 sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy the music nor
 does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a performative
context
 or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that I haven't left the
 venue should say something.
  In an age where all kinds of criticism (literary, etc.) has freed
 art from static notions tied with the artist, I find it interesting that
 the monolithic notion of must-dancing still rules. I do understand the
 need for it and I understand how it creates a necessary symbiosis - but
why
 does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them to enjoy and
 appreciate something?
 We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable with dancing as each
 other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any behavior or reaction to
art
 is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no tie between art and
 artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic to dictate behavior
to
 a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this particular post (as I
 can see the connection you are making vis a vis the trend), but rather
 towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I don't dance, I am
 unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really about the music OR
 the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a way which is genuine
 to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's enjoyment. .02.

  jeff


 At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote:
 This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In one respect, people
go
 to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the other respect, they go
to
 watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his normal context and
into
 that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her rather than
interacting.
 (another argument which I'm not going to pontificate on here)  So you get
 one half of the audience dancing and the other just watching. This has
been,
 IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like in recent years.
Too
 much watching, not enough dancing.
 
 I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there was far too much of
the
 latter going on. You could see him actually looking rather annoyed as one
 absolute classic after another (Final Frontier, Magnese) was being
dropped
 only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from the crowd. How must a
DJ
 feel when they are faced by banks of motionless people looking at them
spin
 some records?





Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Personally, I like to get the dancers dancing and the 'spotters 'spotting: I
like having the whooping, screaming, yelling, jacking, climbing the walls
AND the googly eyed what's he doing?!? What's that record?! You don't have
to dance to recognise that it's a pretty similar achievement: everyone comes
away saying, damn he/she banged it out - *that's* what I'm after.

As to how you do it, do it any way you want to. I used to do tricks far more
than I do now, I now never scratch beyond the odd second copy doubling up,
and I pretty much conform to Cyclone's sleep house school of DJing. I
certainly *wouldn't* say that the mix supercedes the records - quite the
opposite - and in any case, it's just something that I have observed works
better for the music I play. Some of the sleep house gang would say that
mixing it up in the Mills style is mix over content, but they'd be equally
wrong. It's horses for courses, and I suppose a good DJ will adapt
accordingly.  In my case, it's certainly not lack of skill - I'm relying on
some charity here :) - nor is it some deeper than thou homage to the house
canon, it just works for me. Not to say there aren't style over content DJs,
but they're the *real* boring ones.

All just IMHO.




Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Mxyzptlk




I can't really articulate what I want to say, because it will mean going
into that whole artist/DJ argument which I can't be arsed with.



Understood - but what needs to be said here is that there is artifice 
involved in any performance - and being a DJ of any and every  ilk still 
involves artifice...it's just a different kind/kinds. Some of them are 
simply more transparent than others. The trouble with this whole issue is 
the tendency to answer complex questions with simple solutions, whether it 
be the analysis of the DJ/artist, the crowd or the individuals in the crowd 
rather than recognizing either the vast blend of factors going into the pot 
to make the stew. IMO it's the same kind of reductionist simplicity which 
denies a legitimate variety of response (e.g.,not taking into account that 
different people represent differently).


jeff (who really 
does do more than post ebay links :-)




RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
... Johnny Mcintosh will be appearing at Public Life, London on 16 November,
in Slices #3, dedicated to all forms of house.

:o)

-Original Message-
From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:17 PM
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


Personally, I like to get the dancers dancing and the 'spotters
'spotting: I
like having the whooping, screaming, yelling, jacking, climbing the walls
AND the googly eyed what's he doing?!? What's that record?! You
don't have
to dance to recognise that it's a pretty similar achievement:
everyone comes
away saying, damn he/she banged it out - *that's* what I'm after.

As to how you do it, do it any way you want to. I used to do
tricks far more
than I do now, I now never scratch beyond the odd second copy doubling up,
and I pretty much conform to Cyclone's sleep house school of DJing. I
certainly *wouldn't* say that the mix supercedes the records - quite the
opposite - and in any case, it's just something that I have observed works
better for the music I play. Some of the sleep house gang would say that
mixing it up in the Mills style is mix over content, but they'd be equally
wrong. It's horses for courses, and I suppose a good DJ will adapt
accordingly.  In my case, it's certainly not lack of skill - I'm relying on
some charity here :) - nor is it some deeper than thou homage to the house
canon, it just works for me. Not to say there aren't style over
content DJs,
but they're the *real* boring ones.

All just IMHO.




Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Jonny McIntosh
And I'll quickly add I don't always get to do what I like, so don't kick my
head in if I don't have you climbing walls ;)

 ... Johnny Mcintosh will be appearing at Public Life, London on 16
November,
 in Slices #3, dedicated to all forms of house.

 :o)
 
 
 Personally, I like to get the dancers dancing and the 'spotters
 'spotting: I
 like having the whooping, screaming, yelling, jacking, climbing the walls





RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Taylor
F*** ART, LET'S DANCE. I didn't get to the end of that piece I almost fell
asleep trying to get to grips with its faux-intellectual weightiness.
Don't be so pretentious ferchrisakes it's dance music!
-Original Message-
From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:53 PM
To: Toby Frith; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


While I respect your opinion and understand that your comments are made in 
the context of this discussion (and also that dance music is ostensibly 
made for dancing), I have to say that I find the notion that someone gets 
to say how *I* need to react to something else in the sense that I can be 
marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at least as problematic as 
a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by whomever. I don't dance 
and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma or an ill formed 
sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy the music nor 
does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a performative context 
or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that I haven't left the 
venue should say something.
 In an age where all kinds of criticism (literary, etc.) has freed 
art from static notions tied with the artist, I find it interesting that 
the monolithic notion of must-dancing still rules. I do understand the 
need for it and I understand how it creates a necessary symbiosis - but why 
does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them to enjoy and 
appreciate something?
We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable with dancing as each 
other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any behavior or reaction to art 
is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no tie between art and 
artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic to dictate behavior to 
a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this particular post (as I 
can see the connection you are making vis a vis the trend), but rather 
towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I don't dance, I am 
unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really about the music OR 
the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a way which is genuine 
to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's enjoyment. .02.

 jeff


At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote:
This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In one respect, people go
to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the other respect, they go to
watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his normal context and into
that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her rather than interacting.
(another argument which I'm not going to pontificate on here)  So you get
one half of the audience dancing and the other just watching. This has
been,
IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like in recent years. Too
much watching, not enough dancing.

I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there was far too much of the
latter going on. You could see him actually looking rather annoyed as one
absolute classic after another (Final Frontier, Magnese) was being dropped
only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from the crowd. How must a DJ
feel when they are faced by banks of motionless people looking at them spin
some records?



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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 09:37 AM 11/4/2002, Robert Taylor wrote:

F*** ART, LET'S DANCE. I didn't get to the end of that piece I almost fell
asleep trying to get to grips with its faux-intellectual weightiness.
Don't be so pretentious ferchrisakes it's dance music!


Thanks for making my case for me.

jeff



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Taylor
Quite the opposite, fella, you've just outed yourself as a pompous fool who
can't pass a day without pondering the significance of his own belly-button
and reaching for the thesaurus.

-Original Message-
From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 4:51 PM
To: Robert Taylor; 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


At 09:37 AM 11/4/2002, Robert Taylor wrote:
F*** ART, LET'S DANCE. I didn't get to the end of that piece I almost fell
asleep trying to get to grips with its faux-intellectual weightiness.
Don't be so pretentious ferchrisakes it's dance music!

Thanks for making my case for me.

 jeff


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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread kataconda
 This is true, Toby.  But, I must say that if Mills
 didn't enjoy being watched, he could very well conceal
 himself like Hawtin does at his plastic parties.  So
 this leads me to personally believe that Mills enjoys
 the attention of people wtching his skills...

mills has been leaving the stage and having a video of him playing instead
and then coming back on at a cue in the film.
apparently with the idea of holographic images of a dj in the future.
check out the brilliant techno tourist interview.




RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 09:55 AM 11/4/2002, you wrote:

Quite the opposite, fella, you've just outed yourself as a pompous fool who
can't pass a day without pondering the significance of his own belly-button
and reaching for the thesaurus.


Or else you have doubly-demonstrated my case and your own insecurity.
Go one back to the nap you were taking. You'll wake up when the hustle-line 
tramps over you.
Let's be courteous - if you insist on a further show of dramatic irony, 
take it offlist.


jeff



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Taylor
OK OK ComicBookStoreGuy - I just found what you said absurd. If you feel
awkward and shy at a club and are too shy to dance, just say so. Don't try
and make yourself sound awfully clever and even more awkward by
intellectualising it.

-Original Message-
From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:10 PM
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


At 09:55 AM 11/4/2002, you wrote:
Quite the opposite, fella, you've just outed yourself as a pompous fool who
can't pass a day without pondering the significance of his own belly-button
and reaching for the thesaurus.

Or else you have doubly-demonstrated my case and your own insecurity.
Go one back to the nap you were taking. You'll wake up when the hustle-line 
tramps over you.
Let's be courteous - if you insist on a further show of dramatic irony, 
take it offlist.

 jeff


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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Mehmet Koryurek
please just take this off list

mk02


- Original Message -
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mxyzptlk' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


 OK OK ComicBookStoreGuy - I just found what you said absurd. If you feel
 awkward and shy at a club and are too shy to dance, just say so. Don't try
 and make yourself sound awfully clever and even more awkward by
 intellectualising it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:10 PM
 To: Robert Taylor
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


 At 09:55 AM 11/4/2002, you wrote:
 Quite the opposite, fella, you've just outed yourself as a pompous fool
who
 can't pass a day without pondering the significance of his own
belly-button
 and reaching for the thesaurus.

 Or else you have doubly-demonstrated my case and your own insecurity.
 Go one back to the nap you were taking. You'll wake up when the
hustle-line
 tramps over you.
 Let's be courteous - if you insist on a further show of dramatic irony,
 take it offlist.

  jeff


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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I had a feeling my 'sleep house' would get me into trouble.

;)

I am just so frustrated that here in Australia house promoters want to book
these new school house DJs who play so smooth you wanna bring a pillow and
drink cocoa yet they don't wanna book great DJs from the US as they're not
hip (well maybe West Coast). You just know that they were into Sasha, not
Kevin Saunderson and Mayday, back in the day. They play great records (eg
Classic) just very boringly. It's... nice.

There's one particular don of sleep house from the UK but I don't wanna get
in trouble.

If you're getting that kinda response then you're not playing sleep house.

Sleep house DJs don't mess with the EQs much or anything much like that,
it's all about The Mix.  It's not a performance, it's not innovative, it's
just immaculately boring. I can't think of any 313 sleep housers.

 From:  Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
 Date:  05/11/2002 2:16:38
 To:  313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org

 Personally, I like to get the dancers dancing and the 'spotters 'spotting: I
 like having the whooping, screaming, yelling, jacking, climbing the walls
 AND the googly eyed what's he doing?!? What's that record?! You don't have
 to dance to recognise that it's a pretty similar achievement: everyone comes
 away saying, damn he/she banged it out - *that's* what I'm after.

 As to how you do it, do it any way you want to. I used to do tricks far more
 than I do now, I now never scratch beyond the odd second copy doubling up,
 and I pretty much conform to Cyclone's sleep house school of DJing. I
 certainly *wouldn't* say that the mix supercedes the records - quite the
 opposite - and in any case, it's just something that I have observed works
 better for the music I play. Some of the sleep house gang would say that
 mixing it up in the Mills style is mix over content, but they'd be equally
 wrong. It's horses for courses, and I suppose a good DJ will adapt
 accordingly. In my case, it's certainly not lack of skill - I'm relying on
 some charity here :) - nor is it some deeper than thou homage to the house
 canon, it just works for me. Not to say there aren't style over content DJs,
 but they're the *real* boring ones.

 All just IMHO.


RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-04 Thread Langsman, Marc

I recently listened to the shake mix on groovetech and was nicely impressed
by the combination of farina-esque house grooves with doubling up and some
nice skills - makes a nice change to hear good house mixed up in that style

 -Original Message-
 From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 04 November 2002 16:21
 To: 313 Detroit
 Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
 
 
 I had a feeling my 'sleep house' would get me into trouble.
 
 ;)
 
 I am just so frustrated that here in Australia house 
 promoters want to book
 these new school house DJs who play so smooth you wanna bring 
 a pillow and
 drink cocoa yet they don't wanna book great DJs from the US 
 as they're not
 hip (well maybe West Coast). You just know that they were 
 into Sasha, not
 Kevin Saunderson and Mayday, back in the day. They play great 
 records (eg
 Classic) just very boringly. It's... nice.
 
 There's one particular don of sleep house from the UK but I 
 don't wanna get
 in trouble.
 
 If you're getting that kinda response then you're not playing 
 sleep house.
 
 Sleep house DJs don't mess with the EQs much or anything much 
 like that,
 it's all about The Mix.  It's not a performance, it's not 
 innovative, it's
 just immaculately boring. I can't think of any 313 sleep housers.
 
  From:  Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
  Date:  05/11/2002 2:16:38
  To:  313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
 
  Personally, I like to get the dancers dancing and the 
 'spotters 'spotting: I
  like having the whooping, screaming, yelling, jacking, 
 climbing the walls
  AND the googly eyed what's he doing?!? What's that 
 record?! You don't have
  to dance to recognise that it's a pretty similar 
 achievement: everyone comes
  away saying, damn he/she banged it out - *that's* what I'm after.
 
  As to how you do it, do it any way you want to. I used to 
 do tricks far more
  than I do now, I now never scratch beyond the odd second 
 copy doubling up,
  and I pretty much conform to Cyclone's sleep house school 
 of DJing. I
  certainly *wouldn't* say that the mix supercedes the 
 records - quite the
  opposite - and in any case, it's just something that I have 
 observed works
  better for the music I play. Some of the sleep house gang 
 would say that
  mixing it up in the Mills style is mix over content, but 
 they'd be equally
  wrong. It's horses for courses, and I suppose a good DJ will adapt
  accordingly. In my case, it's certainly not lack of skill - 
 I'm relying on
  some charity here :) - nor is it some deeper than thou 
 homage to the house
  canon, it just works for me. Not to say there aren't style 
 over content DJs,
  but they're the *real* boring ones.
 
  All just IMHO.
 

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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-03 Thread Pryor, Ryan N
[Pryor, Ryan N]:
His 'Live @ Liquid Room Tokyo' and 'Live in Germany' sets are nearly
identical. While the mixing on these performances is immaculate, And
highly entertaining, I find it kind of discouraging that someone would
practice a
set and then continually play it over and over without shame.

Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 You could say the same about nearly every touring DJ, can't you?


Too an extent, but when I said nearly identical, I wasn't kidding. These
sets are so similar it's not even funny. Playing what you know works and
what blows away the crowd is great, but where is the skill in that? It gets
old after a while, not only for the listeners, but for yourself. By the way,
I have Live in Germany on mixtape and you are more than welcome to a copy,
to have a listen. Drop me an email.

Ryan


RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: Pryor, Ryan N [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Too an extent, but when I said nearly identical, I wasn't
kidding. These
sets are so similar it's not even funny. Playing what you know
works and
what blows away the crowd is great, but where is the skill in
that? It gets
old after a while, not only for the listeners, but for yourself.

aside from the fact that my question if people hold DMC style
deejays to the same standards went unanswered, i have to point out
that few if any people are following jeff mills around to Tokyo,
Germany, wherever to hear him drop these similar sets. now if he
was playing the same set multiple times in the same area over a
long period of time, i might be able to see that argument. but to
complain because he played the same set thousands of miles away
from each other is moderately silly. i have an MP3 mix of Shake
live at Hultfreds Festival that is damn near identical to a set
he played here in pittsburgh near the end of 2000. im assuming
this was at a similar time and it was very far away, and it made
me happy to hear him play all those great tracks again. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-03 Thread Otto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If the same magazine was to carry out an 
 indepedent chart based on nothing more than a 
 DJ's skills rather than just what overexposed 
 DJ happens to get the majority of plastic 
 clubbers 'jumpin' after 10 pints of Stella or 
 a handfill of moody pills every saturday night...
 then you know the list would be quite different.
 
I'd say making people dance is rather essential DJ skill... Everything
else is secondary.

Otto
PS And last Friday, Alan Oldham's set in Utrecht certainly made me
dance! Highlight: a 10-minute version of Blake Baxter's Visions of you
near the end of his set.




Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-03 Thread stewart
  If the same magazine was to carry out an 
  indepedent chart based on nothing more than a 
  DJ's skills rather than just what overexposed 
  DJ happens to get the majority of plastic 
  clubbers 'jumpin' after 10 pints of Stella or 
  a handfill of moody pills every saturday night...
  then you know the list would be quite different.
  
 I'd say making people dance is rather essential DJ skill... Everything
 else is secondary.

A good and fair point Otto, you'll have to excuse my momentary lapse into 
musical snobbery :)


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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-02 Thread Nocturnals
PREthank god laurent garnier is in that list ... 


Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-02 Thread ::\)
shit, I dont see my name on there.

should I spend the weekend drunk and confused to make up for it?

ok.


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Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


 thank god laurent garnier is in that list ...


RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-02 Thread FC3 Richards
let me think...good tracks...tricks...hmmm...so you just said he is
terrible, and the contradicted yourself in the next line.  you didn't even
put a filler sentance in.  I'm not going to argue with you, we all have our
opinions, but there is something wrong with what you said.  Elaborate a
little more so others can argue with you...

-Original Message-
From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:38 PM
To: Martijn de Blaauw; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


mills is a terrible DJ.  he just pics good tracks and has a bag of tricks.
- Original Message -
From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


 eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?

 tragic list this is...:-(

 M.

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD





 1.Tiesto

 2. Sasha

 3. John Digweed

 4. Paul Van Dyk

 5. Armin Van Burren

 6. Paul Oakenfold

 7.Judge Jules

 8. Carl Cox

 9. Ferry Corsten

 10. Lee Burridge

 11. Danny Tenaglia

 12. Danny Howells

 13. Steve Lawler

 14. Mauro Picotto

 15. Sander Kleinenberg

 16. Deep Dish

 17. Erick Morillo

 18. Lisa Lashes

 19. Hernan Cattaneo

 20. Roger Sanchez

 21. Fergie

 22. Fatboy Slim

 23. Dave Clarke

 24. Richie Hawtin

 25. Derrick Carter

 26. Pete Tong

 27. Anne Savage

 28. Andy C

 29. Marco V

 30. Satoshi Tomiie

 31. MAW

 32. Seb Fontaine

 33. Darren Emerson

 34. Craig Richards

 35.Eddie Halliwell

 36. J00F

 37. Nick Warren

 38. Dave Seamen

 39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

 40. Scott Bond

 41. Tom Stephan

 42. John Kelly

 43. Scot Project

 44. Terry Francis

 45. Lottie

 46. Laurent Garnier

 47. Guy Ornadel

 48. Lisa Pin Up

 49. Anthony Pappa

 50. Johan Gielen

 51. Dave Lee

 52. Marky

 53. Andy Farley

 54. Yousef

 55. Sven Vath

 56. Layo  Bushwacka

 57. Timo Mass

 58. Jeff Mills

 59. Matt Hardwick

 60. Christopher Lawrence

 61. Jimmy Van M

 62. Plump Djs

 63. Tidy Boys

 64. Hype

 65. Chris Fortier

 66. Norman Jay

 67. JFK

 68. Bad Boy Bill

 69. Danny Rampling

 70. Chris Liberation

 71. Bk

 72. X-Press 2

 73. Frankie Knuckles

 74. Krafty Kuts

 75. Umek

 76. Tall Paul

 77. Mark Parina

 78. Ashley Casselle

 79. Mistress Barbra

 80. Max Graham

 81. Tony Humphries

 82. Adam Freeland

 83. George Acosta

 84. Mario Piu

 85. David Morales

 86. Stanton Warriors

 87. Alan Thompson

 88. Paul Glazby

 89. Giles Peterson

 90. Mr Scuff

 91. Hybrid

 92. Dave Pearce

 93. Tim Delux

 94. Zinc

 95. Joy Kitikonti

 96. Smokin Jo

 97. Grooverider

 98. Slam

 99. Tom Middleton

 100. Dave The Drummer



Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-02 Thread Christian Bloch
ahem ironi! *cough*

Christian Bloch
http://christianbloch.com
http://mp3.com/bloch
http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm

Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple
Muzik/Funque Droppings


- Original Message -
From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '::)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


let me think...good tracks...tricks...hmmm...so you just said he is
terrible, and the contradicted yourself in the next line.  you didn't even
put a filler sentance in.  I'm not going to argue with you, we all have our
opinions, but there is something wrong with what you said.  Elaborate a
little more so others can argue with you...

-Original Message-
From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:38 PM
To: Martijn de Blaauw; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


mills is a terrible DJ.  he just pics good tracks and has a bag of tricks.



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-02 Thread fortyozdrinker
live at the liquid room is laden with errors. it is a classic set. but it has 
at least 5 big mistakes. for a recorded mix that is a lot. mills is a sloppy 
dj. but he can get away with it because of his record selection.



Pryor, Ryan N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

mills is a terrible DJ.  he just pics good tracks and has a bag of tricks.

Not too sure about the terrible DJ remark, but I will have to agree on the

bag of tricks part. It seems he has a couple of trademark sets he likes to

play. His 'Live @ Liquid Room Tokyo' and 'Live in Germany' sets are nearly 
identical. While the mixing on these performances is immaculate, And highly 
entertaining, I find it kind of discouraging that someone would practice a
set 
and then continually play it over and over without shame. 

That's cheating in my book.



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-02 Thread Gary . Girard


let me think...good tracks...tricks...hmmm...so you just said he is
terrible, and the contradicted yourself in the next line.  you didn't even
put a filler sentance in.  I'm not going to argue with you, we all have our
opinions, but there is something wrong with what you said.  Elaborate a
little more so others can argue with you...

Oh dear! This is what is known as *sarcasm* FC3 .. to explain that means
that Martijn thinks Mills is a brilliant DJ really and should be at the top
(or at least near the top) of the list.




RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-02 Thread Gary . Girard

live at the liquid room is laden with errors. it is a classic set. but it
has at least 5 big mistakes. for a recorded mix that is a lot. mills is a
sloppy dj. but he can get away with it because of his record selection.

He can get away with it because he's so damn quick. When a DJ works the
decks  mixer as much and as quickly as Mills does then there's bound to be
some mistakes.





Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-02 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message -
From: Pryor, Ryan N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 3:19 AM
Subject: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


 mills is a terrible DJ.  he just pics good tracks and has a bag of
tricks.

 Not too sure about the terrible DJ remark, but I will have to agree on
the

 bag of tricks part. It seems he has a couple of trademark sets he likes
to

 play. His 'Live @ Liquid Room Tokyo' and 'Live in Germany' sets are nearly
 identical. While the mixing on these performances is immaculate, And
highly
 entertaining, I find it kind of discouraging that someone would practice a
 set
 and then continually play it over and over without shame.

You could say the same about nearly every touring DJ, can't you? How many
records can you bring with you unless you're using Final Scratch??? If you
play at Mills speed and play for Mills length, you will literally play a
full crate of records in one set. For the record, when he DJ'd at The End in
London recently, he was definitely searching for records throughout his set.
If it was planned, he is a great actor. Also, Derrick May does this more
than anyone from what I can tell, but when I only see him in one port, I
don't care.

Tristan
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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-02 Thread Maarten Baute
This is an error, the list was not completed? 
I think this must be added? RIGHT???

-2. Ron Hardy

-1. Larry Levan 

0. Derrick May


 1.Tiesto
 
 2. Sasha
 
 3. John Digweed
 
 4. Paul Van Dyk
 
 5. Armin Van Burren
 
 6. Paul Oakenfold
 
 7.Judge Jules
 
 8. Carl Cox
 
 9. Ferry Corsten
 
 10. Lee Burridge
 
 11. Danny Tenaglia
 
 12. Danny Howells
 
 13. Steve Lawler
 
 14. Mauro Picotto
 
 15. Sander Kleinenberg
 
 16. Deep Dish
 
 17. Erick Morillo
 
 18. Lisa Lashes
 
 19. Hernan Cattaneo
 
 20. Roger Sanchez
 
 21. Fergie
 
 22. Fatboy Slim
 
 23. Dave Clarke
 
 24. Richie Hawtin
 
 25. Derrick Carter
 
 26. Pete Tong
 
 27. Anne Savage
 
 28. Andy C
 
 29. Marco V
 
 30. Satoshi Tomiie
 
 31. MAW
 
 32. Seb Fontaine
 
 33. Darren Emerson
 
 34. Craig Richards
 
 35.Eddie Halliwell
 
 36. J00F
 
 37. Nick Warren
 
 38. Dave Seamen
 
 39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela
 
 40. Scott Bond
 
 41. Tom Stephan
 
 42. John Kelly
 
 43. Scot Project
 
 44. Terry Francis
 
 45. Lottie
 
 46. Laurent Garnier
 
 47. Guy Ornadel
 
 48. Lisa Pin Up
 
 49. Anthony Pappa
 
 50. Johan Gielen
 
 51. Dave Lee
 
 52. Marky
 
 53. Andy Farley
 
 54. Yousef
 
 55. Sven Vath
 
 56. Layo  Bushwacka
 
 57. Timo Mass
 
 58. Jeff Mills
 
 59. Matt Hardwick
 
 60. Christopher Lawrence
 
 61. Jimmy Van M
 
 62. Plump Djs
 
 63. Tidy Boys
 
 64. Hype
 
 65. Chris Fortier
 
 66. Norman Jay
 
 67. JFK
 
 68. Bad Boy Bill
 
 69. Danny Rampling
 
 70. Chris Liberation
 
 71. Bk
 
 72. X-Press 2
 
 73. Frankie Knuckles
 
 74. Krafty Kuts
 
 75. Umek
 
 76. Tall Paul
 
 77. Mark Parina
 
 78. Ashley Casselle
 
 79. Mistress Barbra
 
 80. Max Graham
 
 81. Tony Humphries
 
 82. Adam Freeland
 
 83. George Acosta
 
 84. Mario Piu
 
 85. David Morales
 
 86. Stanton Warriors
 
 87. Alan Thompson
 
 88. Paul Glazby
 
 89. Giles Peterson
 
 90. Mr Scuff
 
 91. Hybrid
 
 92. Dave Pearce
 
 93. Tim Delux
 
 94. Zinc
 
 95. Joy Kitikonti
 
 96. Smokin Jo
 
 97. Grooverider
 
 98. Slam
 
 99. Tom Middleton
 
 100. Dave The Drummer
 



Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-02 Thread ::\)
MY point was that mills isnt great at mixing records.

ifs its due to his speed, he should slow down a bit.  quality over quantity.

I think his track selection is great though, in terms of picking which
record goes next.

he does suck on a 909 too :)

Im no mills hater by any means, I was at agents of change and enjoyed it
set.

-Joe


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: '::)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD




 let me think...good tracks...tricks...hmmm...so you just said he is
 terrible, and the contradicted yourself in the next line.  you didn't even
 put a filler sentance in.  I'm not going to argue with you, we all have
our
 opinions, but there is something wrong with what you said.  Elaborate a
 little more so others can argue with you...

 Oh dear! This is what is known as *sarcasm* FC3 .. to explain that means
 that Martijn thinks Mills is a brilliant DJ really and should be at the
top
 (or at least near the top) of the list.





Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-02 Thread fortyozdrinker
this thread will never go anywhere. certain styles of djing make it easier for 
a dj to display their skills (as far as actual technical skills go). for 
example, mark farina can't use the decks like murat can. he plays records for a 
long time and doesn't mix them for the amount of time murat does. farina uses 
two where murat uses three. not that farina blows. but his style of music 
requires exquisite record selection for the main focus rather than hard work on 
the turntables. also, there is a conflict of interest in every reply to this 
thread. some people would rather see kirk degorgio before they would see dave 
angel. it all depends on your music of choice. what has moved people in the 
past is what they want to hear. so i am going to throw in my conflict of 
interest. of course i think i am right with, ben sims. there is no one who uses 
the turntables as a piece of production like this guy. you may not like his 
style. but show me a better dj (technically). none exist. he turns his dj sets 
into live acts, scratching, bomb tracks, energy. has he ever had a bad night? 
as far as mills goes, if he was just coming up as a dj now, would he gain the 
following he has today? i don't think so. he played the same set for about 8 
years. now he realizes it's time for a change. he has always displayed this 
advancement for techno in his production. as a dj, he just began to diversify. 
that's weird. i am sure that someone will say, i saw mills play a deep techno 
set 4 years ago. well one out of 200 isn't an equal ratio. i love seeing 
mills. at the same time i think he is way overrated. a lot of the excitement in 
seeing him play is nostalgia.

Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is an error, the list was not completed? 
I think this must be added? RIGHT???

-2. Ron Hardy

-1. Larry Levan 

0. Derrick May


 1.Tiesto
 
 2. Sasha
 
 3. John Digweed
 
 4. Paul Van Dyk
 
 5. Armin Van Burren
 
 6. Paul Oakenfold
 
 7.Judge Jules
 
 8. Carl Cox
 
 9. Ferry Corsten
 
 10. Lee Burridge
 
 11. Danny Tenaglia
 
 12. Danny Howells
 
 13. Steve Lawler
 
 14. Mauro Picotto
 
 15. Sander Kleinenberg
 
 16. Deep Dish
 
 17. Erick Morillo
 
 18. Lisa Lashes
 
 19. Hernan Cattaneo
 
 20. Roger Sanchez
 
 21. Fergie
 
 22. Fatboy Slim
 
 23. Dave Clarke
 
 24. Richie Hawtin
 
 25. Derrick Carter
 
 26. Pete Tong
 
 27. Anne Savage
 
 28. Andy C
 
 29. Marco V
 
 30. Satoshi Tomiie
 
 31. MAW
 
 32. Seb Fontaine
 
 33. Darren Emerson
 
 34. Craig Richards
 
 35.Eddie Halliwell
 
 36. J00F
 
 37. Nick Warren
 
 38. Dave Seamen
 
 39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela
 
 40. Scott Bond
 
 41. Tom Stephan
 
 42. John Kelly
 
 43. Scot Project
 
 44. Terry Francis
 
 45. Lottie
 
 46. Laurent Garnier
 
 47. Guy Ornadel
 
 48. Lisa Pin Up
 
 49. Anthony Pappa
 
 50. Johan Gielen
 
 51. Dave Lee
 
 52. Marky
 
 53. Andy Farley
 
 54. Yousef
 
 55. Sven Vath
 
 56. Layo  Bushwacka
 
 57. Timo Mass
 
 58. Jeff Mills
 
 59. Matt Hardwick
 
 60. Christopher Lawrence
 
 61. Jimmy Van M
 
 62. Plump Djs
 
 63. Tidy Boys
 
 64. Hype
 
 65. Chris Fortier
 
 66. Norman Jay
 
 67. JFK
 
 68. Bad Boy Bill
 
 69. Danny Rampling
 
 70. Chris Liberation
 
 71. Bk
 
 72. X-Press 2
 
 73. Frankie Knuckles
 
 74. Krafty Kuts
 
 75. Umek
 
 76. Tall Paul
 
 77. Mark Parina
 
 78. Ashley Casselle
 
 79. Mistress Barbra
 
 80. Max Graham
 
 81. Tony Humphries
 
 82. Adam Freeland
 
 83. George Acosta
 
 84. Mario Piu
 
 85. David Morales
 
 86. Stanton Warriors
 
 87. Alan Thompson
 
 88. Paul Glazby
 
 89. Giles Peterson
 
 90. Mr Scuff
 
 91. Hybrid
 
 92. Dave Pearce
 
 93. Tim Delux
 
 94. Zinc
 
 95. Joy Kitikonti
 
 96. Smokin Jo
 
 97. Grooverider
 
 98. Slam
 
 99. Tom Middleton
 
 100. Dave The Drummer
 




Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-02 Thread Trevor Wilkes
Why is it every year when the list is put together this thread refuses to
die, maybe we should all go back and read last years archiveno new
ground has been covered

Trevor Wilkes



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Who?

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Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD





1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer


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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?

tragic list this is...:-(

M.

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1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread ::\)
mills is a terrible DJ.  he just pics good tracks and has a bag of tricks.
- Original Message -
From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


 eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?

 tragic list this is...:-(

 M.

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD





 1.Tiesto

 2. Sasha

 3. John Digweed

 4. Paul Van Dyk

 5. Armin Van Burren

 6. Paul Oakenfold

 7.Judge Jules

 8. Carl Cox

 9. Ferry Corsten

 10. Lee Burridge

 11. Danny Tenaglia

 12. Danny Howells

 13. Steve Lawler

 14. Mauro Picotto

 15. Sander Kleinenberg

 16. Deep Dish

 17. Erick Morillo

 18. Lisa Lashes

 19. Hernan Cattaneo

 20. Roger Sanchez

 21. Fergie

 22. Fatboy Slim

 23. Dave Clarke

 24. Richie Hawtin

 25. Derrick Carter

 26. Pete Tong

 27. Anne Savage

 28. Andy C

 29. Marco V

 30. Satoshi Tomiie

 31. MAW

 32. Seb Fontaine

 33. Darren Emerson

 34. Craig Richards

 35.Eddie Halliwell

 36. J00F

 37. Nick Warren

 38. Dave Seamen

 39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

 40. Scott Bond

 41. Tom Stephan

 42. John Kelly

 43. Scot Project

 44. Terry Francis

 45. Lottie

 46. Laurent Garnier

 47. Guy Ornadel

 48. Lisa Pin Up

 49. Anthony Pappa

 50. Johan Gielen

 51. Dave Lee

 52. Marky

 53. Andy Farley

 54. Yousef

 55. Sven Vath

 56. Layo  Bushwacka

 57. Timo Mass

 58. Jeff Mills

 59. Matt Hardwick

 60. Christopher Lawrence

 61. Jimmy Van M

 62. Plump Djs

 63. Tidy Boys

 64. Hype

 65. Chris Fortier

 66. Norman Jay

 67. JFK

 68. Bad Boy Bill

 69. Danny Rampling

 70. Chris Liberation

 71. Bk

 72. X-Press 2

 73. Frankie Knuckles

 74. Krafty Kuts

 75. Umek

 76. Tall Paul

 77. Mark Parina

 78. Ashley Casselle

 79. Mistress Barbra

 80. Max Graham

 81. Tony Humphries

 82. Adam Freeland

 83. George Acosta

 84. Mario Piu

 85. David Morales

 86. Stanton Warriors

 87. Alan Thompson

 88. Paul Glazby

 89. Giles Peterson

 90. Mr Scuff

 91. Hybrid

 92. Dave Pearce

 93. Tim Delux

 94. Zinc

 95. Joy Kitikonti

 96. Smokin Jo

 97. Grooverider

 98. Slam

 99. Tom Middleton

 100. Dave The Drummer




RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
here we go again...

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Onderwerp: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


mills is a terrible DJ.  he just pics good tracks and has a bag of tricks.
- Original Message -
From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


 eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?

 tragic list this is...:-(

 M.

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 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: vrijdag 1 november 2002 15:32
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD





 1.Tiesto

 2. Sasha

 3. John Digweed

 4. Paul Van Dyk

 5. Armin Van Burren

 6. Paul Oakenfold

 7.Judge Jules

 8. Carl Cox

 9. Ferry Corsten

 10. Lee Burridge

 11. Danny Tenaglia

 12. Danny Howells

 13. Steve Lawler

 14. Mauro Picotto

 15. Sander Kleinenberg

 16. Deep Dish

 17. Erick Morillo

 18. Lisa Lashes

 19. Hernan Cattaneo

 20. Roger Sanchez

 21. Fergie

 22. Fatboy Slim

 23. Dave Clarke

 24. Richie Hawtin

 25. Derrick Carter

 26. Pete Tong

 27. Anne Savage

 28. Andy C

 29. Marco V

 30. Satoshi Tomiie

 31. MAW

 32. Seb Fontaine

 33. Darren Emerson

 34. Craig Richards

 35.Eddie Halliwell

 36. J00F

 37. Nick Warren

 38. Dave Seamen

 39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

 40. Scott Bond

 41. Tom Stephan

 42. John Kelly

 43. Scot Project

 44. Terry Francis

 45. Lottie

 46. Laurent Garnier

 47. Guy Ornadel

 48. Lisa Pin Up

 49. Anthony Pappa

 50. Johan Gielen

 51. Dave Lee

 52. Marky

 53. Andy Farley

 54. Yousef

 55. Sven Vath

 56. Layo  Bushwacka

 57. Timo Mass

 58. Jeff Mills

 59. Matt Hardwick

 60. Christopher Lawrence

 61. Jimmy Van M

 62. Plump Djs

 63. Tidy Boys

 64. Hype

 65. Chris Fortier

 66. Norman Jay

 67. JFK

 68. Bad Boy Bill

 69. Danny Rampling

 70. Chris Liberation

 71. Bk

 72. X-Press 2

 73. Frankie Knuckles

 74. Krafty Kuts

 75. Umek

 76. Tall Paul

 77. Mark Parina

 78. Ashley Casselle

 79. Mistress Barbra

 80. Max Graham

 81. Tony Humphries

 82. Adam Freeland

 83. George Acosta

 84. Mario Piu

 85. David Morales

 86. Stanton Warriors

 87. Alan Thompson

 88. Paul Glazby

 89. Giles Peterson

 90. Mr Scuff

 91. Hybrid

 92. Dave Pearce

 93. Tim Delux

 94. Zinc

 95. Joy Kitikonti

 96. Smokin Jo

 97. Grooverider

 98. Slam

 99. Tom Middleton

 100. Dave The Drummer




Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread robin pinning


just explains why dj mag (www.djmag.com) is only good for the adverts in
the backoh yeah and protecting the carpet behind my speakers from my kitten 
:)

robin...






 1.Tiesto

 2. Sasha

 3. John Digweed

 4. Paul Van Dyk

 5. Armin Van Burren

 6. Paul Oakenfold

 7.Judge Jules

 8. Carl Cox

 9. Ferry Corsten

 10. Lee Burridge

 11. Danny Tenaglia

 12. Danny Howells

 13. Steve Lawler

 14. Mauro Picotto

 15. Sander Kleinenberg

 16. Deep Dish

 17. Erick Morillo

 18. Lisa Lashes

 19. Hernan Cattaneo

 20. Roger Sanchez

 21. Fergie

 22. Fatboy Slim

 23. Dave Clarke

 24. Richie Hawtin

 25. Derrick Carter

 26. Pete Tong

 27. Anne Savage

 28. Andy C

 29. Marco V

 30. Satoshi Tomiie

 31. MAW

 32. Seb Fontaine

 33. Darren Emerson

 34. Craig Richards

 35.Eddie Halliwell

 36. J00F

 37. Nick Warren

 38. Dave Seamen

 39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

 40. Scott Bond

 41. Tom Stephan

 42. John Kelly

 43. Scot Project

 44. Terry Francis

 45. Lottie

 46. Laurent Garnier

 47. Guy Ornadel

 48. Lisa Pin Up

 49. Anthony Pappa

 50. Johan Gielen

 51. Dave Lee

 52. Marky

 53. Andy Farley

 54. Yousef

 55. Sven Vath

 56. Layo  Bushwacka

 57. Timo Mass

 58. Jeff Mills

 59. Matt Hardwick

 60. Christopher Lawrence

 61. Jimmy Van M

 62. Plump Djs

 63. Tidy Boys

 64. Hype

 65. Chris Fortier

 66. Norman Jay

 67. JFK

 68. Bad Boy Bill

 69. Danny Rampling

 70. Chris Liberation

 71. Bk

 72. X-Press 2

 73. Frankie Knuckles

 74. Krafty Kuts

 75. Umek

 76. Tall Paul

 77. Mark Parina

 78. Ashley Casselle

 79. Mistress Barbra

 80. Max Graham

 81. Tony Humphries

 82. Adam Freeland

 83. George Acosta

 84. Mario Piu

 85. David Morales

 86. Stanton Warriors

 87. Alan Thompson

 88. Paul Glazby

 89. Giles Peterson

 90. Mr Scuff

 91. Hybrid

 92. Dave Pearce

 93. Tim Delux

 94. Zinc

 95. Joy Kitikonti

 96. Smokin Jo

 97. Grooverider

 98. Slam

 99. Tom Middleton

 100. Dave The Drummer


robin...
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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread robin pinning

actually i got that jokeas in 90% of the djs on that list don't have
the tunes or the tricks...

robin...


 here we go again...

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 Onderwerp: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


 mills is a terrible DJ.  he just pics good tracks and has a bag of tricks.
 - Original Message -
 From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:47 AM
 Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


  eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?
 
  tragic list this is...:-(
 
  M.
 
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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  Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD
 
 
 
 
 
  1.Tiesto
 
  2. Sasha
 
  3. John Digweed
 
  4. Paul Van Dyk
 
  5. Armin Van Burren
 
  6. Paul Oakenfold
 
  7.Judge Jules
 
  8. Carl Cox
 
  9. Ferry Corsten
 
  10. Lee Burridge
 
  11. Danny Tenaglia
 
  12. Danny Howells
 
  13. Steve Lawler
 
  14. Mauro Picotto
 
  15. Sander Kleinenberg
 
  16. Deep Dish
 
  17. Erick Morillo
 
  18. Lisa Lashes
 
  19. Hernan Cattaneo
 
  20. Roger Sanchez
 
  21. Fergie
 
  22. Fatboy Slim
 
  23. Dave Clarke
 
  24. Richie Hawtin
 
  25. Derrick Carter
 
  26. Pete Tong
 
  27. Anne Savage
 
  28. Andy C
 
  29. Marco V
 
  30. Satoshi Tomiie
 
  31. MAW
 
  32. Seb Fontaine
 
  33. Darren Emerson
 
  34. Craig Richards
 
  35.Eddie Halliwell
 
  36. J00F
 
  37. Nick Warren
 
  38. Dave Seamen
 
  39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela
 
  40. Scott Bond
 
  41. Tom Stephan
 
  42. John Kelly
 
  43. Scot Project
 
  44. Terry Francis
 
  45. Lottie
 
  46. Laurent Garnier
 
  47. Guy Ornadel
 
  48. Lisa Pin Up
 
  49. Anthony Pappa
 
  50. Johan Gielen
 
  51. Dave Lee
 
  52. Marky
 
  53. Andy Farley
 
  54. Yousef
 
  55. Sven Vath
 
  56. Layo  Bushwacka
 
  57. Timo Mass
 
  58. Jeff Mills
 
  59. Matt Hardwick
 
  60. Christopher Lawrence
 
  61. Jimmy Van M
 
  62. Plump Djs
 
  63. Tidy Boys
 
  64. Hype
 
  65. Chris Fortier
 
  66. Norman Jay
 
  67. JFK
 
  68. Bad Boy Bill
 
  69. Danny Rampling
 
  70. Chris Liberation
 
  71. Bk
 
  72. X-Press 2
 
  73. Frankie Knuckles
 
  74. Krafty Kuts
 
  75. Umek
 
  76. Tall Paul
 
  77. Mark Parina
 
  78. Ashley Casselle
 
  79. Mistress Barbra
 
  80. Max Graham
 
  81. Tony Humphries
 
  82. Adam Freeland
 
  83. George Acosta
 
  84. Mario Piu
 
  85. David Morales
 
  86. Stanton Warriors
 
  87. Alan Thompson
 
  88. Paul Glazby
 
  89. Giles Peterson
 
  90. Mr Scuff
 
  91. Hybrid
 
  92. Dave Pearce
 
  93. Tim Delux
 
  94. Zinc
 
  95. Joy Kitikonti
 
  96. Smokin Jo
 
  97. Grooverider
 
  98. Slam
 
  99. Tom Middleton
 
  100. Dave The Drummer
 



robin...
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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Toby Frith
maybe we should have a 313 best DJs in the world instead..


- Original Message -
From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD




 just explains why dj mag (www.djmag.com) is only good for the adverts in
 the backoh yeah and protecting the carpet behind my speakers from my
kitten :)

 robin...



 
 
 
  1.Tiesto
 
  2. Sasha
 
  3. John Digweed
 
  4. Paul Van Dyk
 
  5. Armin Van Burren
 
  6. Paul Oakenfold
 
  7.Judge Jules
 
  8. Carl Cox
 
  9. Ferry Corsten
 
  10. Lee Burridge
 
  11. Danny Tenaglia
 
  12. Danny Howells
 
  13. Steve Lawler
 
  14. Mauro Picotto
 
  15. Sander Kleinenberg
 
  16. Deep Dish
 
  17. Erick Morillo
 
  18. Lisa Lashes
 
  19. Hernan Cattaneo
 
  20. Roger Sanchez
 
  21. Fergie
 
  22. Fatboy Slim
 
  23. Dave Clarke
 
  24. Richie Hawtin
 
  25. Derrick Carter
 
  26. Pete Tong
 
  27. Anne Savage
 
  28. Andy C
 
  29. Marco V
 
  30. Satoshi Tomiie
 
  31. MAW
 
  32. Seb Fontaine
 
  33. Darren Emerson
 
  34. Craig Richards
 
  35.Eddie Halliwell
 
  36. J00F
 
  37. Nick Warren
 
  38. Dave Seamen
 
  39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela
 
  40. Scott Bond
 
  41. Tom Stephan
 
  42. John Kelly
 
  43. Scot Project
 
  44. Terry Francis
 
  45. Lottie
 
  46. Laurent Garnier
 
  47. Guy Ornadel
 
  48. Lisa Pin Up
 
  49. Anthony Pappa
 
  50. Johan Gielen
 
  51. Dave Lee
 
  52. Marky
 
  53. Andy Farley
 
  54. Yousef
 
  55. Sven Vath
 
  56. Layo  Bushwacka
 
  57. Timo Mass
 
  58. Jeff Mills
 
  59. Matt Hardwick
 
  60. Christopher Lawrence
 
  61. Jimmy Van M
 
  62. Plump Djs
 
  63. Tidy Boys
 
  64. Hype
 
  65. Chris Fortier
 
  66. Norman Jay
 
  67. JFK
 
  68. Bad Boy Bill
 
  69. Danny Rampling
 
  70. Chris Liberation
 
  71. Bk
 
  72. X-Press 2
 
  73. Frankie Knuckles
 
  74. Krafty Kuts
 
  75. Umek
 
  76. Tall Paul
 
  77. Mark Parina
 
  78. Ashley Casselle
 
  79. Mistress Barbra
 
  80. Max Graham
 
  81. Tony Humphries
 
  82. Adam Freeland
 
  83. George Acosta
 
  84. Mario Piu
 
  85. David Morales
 
  86. Stanton Warriors
 
  87. Alan Thompson
 
  88. Paul Glazby
 
  89. Giles Peterson
 
  90. Mr Scuff
 
  91. Hybrid
 
  92. Dave Pearce
 
  93. Tim Delux
 
  94. Zinc
 
  95. Joy Kitikonti
 
  96. Smokin Jo
 
  97. Grooverider
 
  98. Slam
 
  99. Tom Middleton
 
  100. Dave The Drummer
 

 robin...
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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Robert Taylor
No 56. I don't know why it is tragic.
These are all POPULAR commercial DJs who have been voted for by the people.
Underground Techno DJs will never be popular amongst the masses, so why do
people get upset/surprised when Mills appears at 56 while Splasha and
Dickweed appear in the top 10?

-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?

tragic list this is...:-(

M.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 1 november 2002 15:32
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD





1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer


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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
And i can't say that i am really proud to see 3 dutch DJ's in the top 10 :)

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 No 56. I don't know why it is tragic.
 These are all POPULAR commercial DJs who have been voted for 
 by the people.
 Underground Techno DJs will never be popular amongst the 
 masses, so why do
 people get upset/surprised when Mills appears at 56 while Splasha and
 Dickweed appear in the top 10?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD
 
 
 eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?
 
 tragic list this is...:-(
 
 M.
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: vrijdag 1 november 2002 15:32
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD
 
 
 
 
 
 1.Tiesto
 
 2. Sasha
 
 3. John Digweed
 
 4. Paul Van Dyk
 
 5. Armin Van Burren
 
 6. Paul Oakenfold
 
 7.Judge Jules
 
 8. Carl Cox
 
 9. Ferry Corsten
 
 10. Lee Burridge
 
 11. Danny Tenaglia
 
 12. Danny Howells
 
 13. Steve Lawler
 
 14. Mauro Picotto
 
 15. Sander Kleinenberg
 
 16. Deep Dish
 
 17. Erick Morillo
 
 18. Lisa Lashes
 
 19. Hernan Cattaneo
 
 20. Roger Sanchez
 
 21. Fergie
 
 22. Fatboy Slim
 
 23. Dave Clarke
 
 24. Richie Hawtin
 
 25. Derrick Carter
 
 26. Pete Tong
 
 27. Anne Savage
 
 28. Andy C
 
 29. Marco V
 
 30. Satoshi Tomiie
 
 31. MAW
 
 32. Seb Fontaine
 
 33. Darren Emerson
 
 34. Craig Richards
 
 35.Eddie Halliwell
 
 36. J00F
 
 37. Nick Warren
 
 38. Dave Seamen
 
 39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela
 
 40. Scott Bond
 
 41. Tom Stephan
 
 42. John Kelly
 
 43. Scot Project
 
 44. Terry Francis
 
 45. Lottie
 
 46. Laurent Garnier
 
 47. Guy Ornadel
 
 48. Lisa Pin Up
 
 49. Anthony Pappa
 
 50. Johan Gielen
 
 51. Dave Lee
 
 52. Marky
 
 53. Andy Farley
 
 54. Yousef
 
 55. Sven Vath
 
 56. Layo  Bushwacka
 
 57. Timo Mass
 
 58. Jeff Mills
 
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 69. Danny Rampling
 
 70. Chris Liberation
 
 71. Bk
 
 72. X-Press 2
 
 73. Frankie Knuckles
 
 74. Krafty Kuts
 
 75. Umek
 
 76. Tall Paul
 
 77. Mark Parina
 
 78. Ashley Casselle
 
 79. Mistress Barbra
 
 80. Max Graham
 
 81. Tony Humphries
 
 82. Adam Freeland
 
 83. George Acosta
 
 84. Mario Piu
 
 85. David Morales
 
 86. Stanton Warriors
 
 87. Alan Thompson
 
 88. Paul Glazby
 
 89. Giles Peterson
 
 90. Mr Scuff
 
 91. Hybrid
 
 92. Dave Pearce
 
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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE

2002-11-01 Thread Rob Theakston

I think there's a few people missing here. Like Ouchy the Clown
(http://www.ouchytheclown.com/) and Uberbalisubramanian Smith.



1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
oops, should have looked a bit better..sorry!

But anyway, who the f**k is Lisa Lashes...

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 1 november 2002 15:42
Aan: 'Martijn de Blaauw'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


No 56. I don't know why it is tragic.
These are all POPULAR commercial DJs who have been voted for by the people.
Underground Techno DJs will never be popular amongst the masses, so why do
people get upset/surprised when Mills appears at 56 while Splasha and
Dickweed appear in the top 10?

-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?

tragic list this is...:-(

M.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Verzonden: vrijdag 1 november 2002 15:32
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD





1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer


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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread robin pinning

100 _MOST POPULAR_ DJ IN THE WORLD

actually rob you have a point tho

r
 No 56. I don't know why it is tragic.
 These are all POPULAR commercial DJs who have been voted for by the people.
 Underground Techno DJs will never be popular amongst the masses, so why do
 people get upset/surprised when Mills appears at 56 while Splasha and
 Dickweed appear in the top 10?

 -Original Message-
 From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


 eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?

 tragic list this is...:-(

 M.

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD





 1.Tiesto

 2. Sasha

 3. John Digweed

 4. Paul Van Dyk

 5. Armin Van Burren

 6. Paul Oakenfold

 7.Judge Jules

 8. Carl Cox

 9. Ferry Corsten

 10. Lee Burridge

 11. Danny Tenaglia

 12. Danny Howells

 13. Steve Lawler

 14. Mauro Picotto

 15. Sander Kleinenberg

 16. Deep Dish

 17. Erick Morillo

 18. Lisa Lashes

 19. Hernan Cattaneo

 20. Roger Sanchez

 21. Fergie

 22. Fatboy Slim

 23. Dave Clarke

 24. Richie Hawtin

 25. Derrick Carter

 26. Pete Tong

 27. Anne Savage

 28. Andy C

 29. Marco V

 30. Satoshi Tomiie

 31. MAW

 32. Seb Fontaine

 33. Darren Emerson

 34. Craig Richards

 35.Eddie Halliwell

 36. J00F

 37. Nick Warren

 38. Dave Seamen

 39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

 40. Scott Bond

 41. Tom Stephan

 42. John Kelly

 43. Scot Project

 44. Terry Francis

 45. Lottie

 46. Laurent Garnier

 47. Guy Ornadel

 48. Lisa Pin Up

 49. Anthony Pappa

 50. Johan Gielen

 51. Dave Lee

 52. Marky

 53. Andy Farley

 54. Yousef

 55. Sven Vath

 56. Layo  Bushwacka

 57. Timo Mass

 58. Jeff Mills

 59. Matt Hardwick

 60. Christopher Lawrence

 61. Jimmy Van M

 62. Plump Djs

 63. Tidy Boys

 64. Hype

 65. Chris Fortier

 66. Norman Jay

 67. JFK

 68. Bad Boy Bill

 69. Danny Rampling

 70. Chris Liberation

 71. Bk

 72. X-Press 2

 73. Frankie Knuckles

 74. Krafty Kuts

 75. Umek

 76. Tall Paul

 77. Mark Parina

 78. Ashley Casselle

 79. Mistress Barbra

 80. Max Graham

 81. Tony Humphries

 82. Adam Freeland

 83. George Acosta

 84. Mario Piu

 85. David Morales

 86. Stanton Warriors

 87. Alan Thompson

 88. Paul Glazby

 89. Giles Peterson

 90. Mr Scuff

 91. Hybrid

 92. Dave Pearce

 93. Tim Delux

 94. Zinc

 95. Joy Kitikonti

 96. Smokin Jo

 97. Grooverider

 98. Slam

 99. Tom Middleton

 100. Dave The Drummer


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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE

2002-11-01 Thread alex . bond
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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erm, who is this head and why is he sending this sh**e.

Is it some sort of virus or something? why is he sending it to individuals?




[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/11/2002 14:41:13
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   313@hyperreal.org
cc:


Subject:(313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE




1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer



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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Robert Taylor
She's a tarty UK 'ard 'ouse DJ who gets a lot of gigs based on her rather
ropey and tawdry looks.
And I'm not being sexist as this seems to be the case for a lot of young
male trance/ hard house DJs too.

-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:57 PM
To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


oops, should have looked a bit better..sorry!

But anyway, who the f**k is Lisa Lashes...

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Verzonden: vrijdag 1 november 2002 15:42
Aan: 'Martijn de Blaauw'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


No 56. I don't know why it is tragic.
These are all POPULAR commercial DJs who have been voted for by the people.
Underground Techno DJs will never be popular amongst the masses, so why do
people get upset/surprised when Mills appears at 56 while Splasha and
Dickweed appear in the top 10?

-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?

tragic list this is...:-(

M.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 1 november 2002 15:32
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD





1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer


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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE

2002-11-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Take a chill pill bill

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Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:46 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE


Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

erm, who is this head and why is he sending this sh**e.

Is it some sort of virus or something? why is he sending it to individuals?




[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/11/2002 14:41:13
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   313@hyperreal.org
cc:


Subject:(313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE




1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer



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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE

2002-11-01 Thread Langsman, Marc

 36. J00F 
 100. Dave The Drummer


who are these monkeys ?

100. Dave my mate down the pub on the honkytonk piano


and more importantly

WHERES DJ GODFATHER ? 

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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread ian cheshire
yeah bleeding trance masters at work there..

apparently he won by 6000 more votes than Paul Van Dyke, so its not really
relevant me thinks as Trance is
the generation of 18-25 year olds ( not everyone before you jump on me :)
but they love it at the mo..

Yep lets have a 313 Top DJ..

ok so where do we start and who wants to compile it?

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


maybe we should have a 313 best DJs in the world instead..


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Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD




 just explains why dj mag (www.djmag.com) is only good for the adverts in
 the backoh yeah and protecting the carpet behind my speakers from my
kitten :)

 robin...



 
 
 
  1.Tiesto
 
  2. Sasha
 
  3. John Digweed
 
  4. Paul Van Dyk
 
  5. Armin Van Burren
 
  6. Paul Oakenfold
 
  7.Judge Jules
 
  8. Carl Cox
 
  9. Ferry Corsten
 
  10. Lee Burridge
 
  11. Danny Tenaglia
 
  12. Danny Howells
 
  13. Steve Lawler
 
  14. Mauro Picotto
 
  15. Sander Kleinenberg
 
  16. Deep Dish
 
  17. Erick Morillo
 
  18. Lisa Lashes
 
  19. Hernan Cattaneo
 
  20. Roger Sanchez
 
  21. Fergie
 
  22. Fatboy Slim
 
  23. Dave Clarke
 
  24. Richie Hawtin
 
  25. Derrick Carter
 
  26. Pete Tong
 
  27. Anne Savage
 
  28. Andy C
 
  29. Marco V
 
  30. Satoshi Tomiie
 
  31. MAW
 
  32. Seb Fontaine
 
  33. Darren Emerson
 
  34. Craig Richards
 
  35.Eddie Halliwell
 
  36. J00F
 
  37. Nick Warren
 
  38. Dave Seamen
 
  39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela
 
  40. Scott Bond
 
  41. Tom Stephan
 
  42. John Kelly
 
  43. Scot Project
 
  44. Terry Francis
 
  45. Lottie
 
  46. Laurent Garnier
 
  47. Guy Ornadel
 
  48. Lisa Pin Up
 
  49. Anthony Pappa
 
  50. Johan Gielen
 
  51. Dave Lee
 
  52. Marky
 
  53. Andy Farley
 
  54. Yousef
 
  55. Sven Vath
 
  56. Layo  Bushwacka
 
  57. Timo Mass
 
  58. Jeff Mills
 
  59. Matt Hardwick
 
  60. Christopher Lawrence
 
  61. Jimmy Van M
 
  62. Plump Djs
 
  63. Tidy Boys
 
  64. Hype
 
  65. Chris Fortier
 
  66. Norman Jay
 
  67. JFK
 
  68. Bad Boy Bill
 
  69. Danny Rampling
 
  70. Chris Liberation
 
  71. Bk
 
  72. X-Press 2
 
  73. Frankie Knuckles
 
  74. Krafty Kuts
 
  75. Umek
 
  76. Tall Paul
 
  77. Mark Parina
 
  78. Ashley Casselle
 
  79. Mistress Barbra
 
  80. Max Graham
 
  81. Tony Humphries
 
  82. Adam Freeland
 
  83. George Acosta
 
  84. Mario Piu
 
  85. David Morales
 
  86. Stanton Warriors
 
  87. Alan Thompson
 
  88. Paul Glazby
 
  89. Giles Peterson
 
  90. Mr Scuff
 
  91. Hybrid
 
  92. Dave Pearce
 
  93. Tim Delux
 
  94. Zinc
 
  95. Joy Kitikonti
 
  96. Smokin Jo
 
  97. Grooverider
 
  98. Slam
 
  99. Tom Middleton
 
  100. Dave The Drummer
 

 robin...
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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE

2002-11-01 Thread alex . bond
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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I don't understand though - I got this mail personally and through the list
and I don't know the guy. I notice other people have been sent it too.

It's also a load of irrelevant bul***it that makes me feel sick.

Sorry - it's just I'm not that computer literate and this is my work's
computer, so if it was some way of sending a virus..

and how did he get our mail addresses? and why didn't he say Hey I'm MrX
and I thought this may interest you etc?

Did Martijn or r3dshift request it?





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Take a chill pill bill

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erm, who is this head and why is he sending this sh**e.

Is it some sort of virus or something? why is he sending it to individuals?




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Subject:(313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE




1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer



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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread robin pinning
 She's a tarty UK 'ard 'ouse DJ who gets a lot of gigs based on her rather
 ropey and tawdry looks.
 And I'm not being sexist as this seems to be the case for a lot of young
 male trance/ hard house DJs too.

fergie?

actually i heard radio one calling him a techno dj all the time the
other morningi hate it when the radio makes me shout obscenities
before i've had chance to wake up...

ok i think we're way off topic now :)

robin...




RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE

2002-11-01 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
Dave the Drummer is with the Liberator-posse..squat techno..can be fun
sometimes (drunk or so:)

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 36. J00F
 100. Dave The Drummer


who are these monkeys ?

100. Dave my mate down the pub on the honkytonk piano


and more importantly

WHERES DJ GODFATHER ?


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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE

2002-11-01 Thread Robert Taylor
D.A.V.E. The Drummer is a Brit Acid Tekno DJ. 'Nuff said.

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 36. J00F 
 100. Dave The Drummer


who are these monkeys ?

100. Dave my mate down the pub on the honkytonk piano


and more importantly

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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Odeluga, Ken
U know what people?

Who gives a flying ph#*chk which latest muppet some plastic, so-called DJ
magazine or (whatever it is) votes as top DJ. I don't (In think I've made
*that* much clear!:o)
k

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eeuhwhere´s Jeff Mills?

tragic list this is...:-(

M.

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Onderwerp: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD





1.Tiesto

2. Sasha

3. John Digweed

4. Paul Van Dyk

5. Armin Van Burren

6. Paul Oakenfold

7.Judge Jules

8. Carl Cox

9. Ferry Corsten

10. Lee Burridge

11. Danny Tenaglia

12. Danny Howells

13. Steve Lawler

14. Mauro Picotto

15. Sander Kleinenberg

16. Deep Dish

17. Erick Morillo

18. Lisa Lashes

19. Hernan Cattaneo

20. Roger Sanchez

21. Fergie

22. Fatboy Slim

23. Dave Clarke

24. Richie Hawtin

25. Derrick Carter

26. Pete Tong

27. Anne Savage

28. Andy C

29. Marco V

30. Satoshi Tomiie

31. MAW

32. Seb Fontaine

33. Darren Emerson

34. Craig Richards

35.Eddie Halliwell

36. J00F

37. Nick Warren

38. Dave Seamen

39. James Sir Wheeler Zabiela

40. Scott Bond

41. Tom Stephan

42. John Kelly

43. Scot Project

44. Terry Francis

45. Lottie

46. Laurent Garnier

47. Guy Ornadel

48. Lisa Pin Up

49. Anthony Pappa

50. Johan Gielen

51. Dave Lee

52. Marky

53. Andy Farley

54. Yousef

55. Sven Vath

56. Layo  Bushwacka

57. Timo Mass

58. Jeff Mills

59. Matt Hardwick

60. Christopher Lawrence

61. Jimmy Van M

62. Plump Djs

63. Tidy Boys

64. Hype

65. Chris Fortier

66. Norman Jay

67. JFK

68. Bad Boy Bill

69. Danny Rampling

70. Chris Liberation

71. Bk

72. X-Press 2

73. Frankie Knuckles

74. Krafty Kuts

75. Umek

76. Tall Paul

77. Mark Parina

78. Ashley Casselle

79. Mistress Barbra

80. Max Graham

81. Tony Humphries

82. Adam Freeland

83. George Acosta

84. Mario Piu

85. David Morales

86. Stanton Warriors

87. Alan Thompson

88. Paul Glazby

89. Giles Peterson

90. Mr Scuff

91. Hybrid

92. Dave Pearce

93. Tim Delux

94. Zinc

95. Joy Kitikonti

96. Smokin Jo

97. Grooverider

98. Slam

99. Tom Middleton

100. Dave The Drummer



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Ian Cheshire wrote:

Yep lets have a 313 Top DJ..

ok so where do we start and who wants to compile it?

I say, let's just have a top (whatever, 30? 50?) of DJs from anywhere we
like. Of course many will be from Detroit but many won't which is fair I
think.
k



Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread stewart
This sort of meaningless rubbish used to annoy me as well, but you have to see 
it for what it is. The chart is compiled based on readers votes, so rather than 
being a true chart of the the best DJs in the world, its really just an 
indication of what DJ magazine's readers are generally into, basically cheesy 
commercial house and trance, on the whole, with the odd token techno head who 
is able to throw in a few predictable names like Clarke, Mills and Hawtin into 
the hat. 

If the same magazine was to carry out an indepedent chart based on nothing more 
than a DJ's skills rather than just what overexposed DJ happens to get the 
majority of plastic clubbers 'jumpin' after 10 pints of Stella or a handfill of 
moody pills every saturday night...then you know the list would be quite 
different. 

Read it, laugth, then bin it.

On the subject of Eddie Fowlkes, surprised noone has mentioned the two tracks 
he dropped on the True People album, TMF 60 and 61. Two of my favouriate 
Fowlkes tunes and always mixed into eachother really well!

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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Neontsetse
ask yourself what makes us think

we should put favourite artists into any kind of hierarchy ?

reflect the routines


 Ian Cheshire wrote:
 
 Yep lets have a 313 Top DJ..
 
 ok so where do we start and who wants to compile it?
 
 I say, let's just have a top (whatever, 30? 50?) of DJs from anywhere we
 like. Of course many will be from Detroit but many won't which is fair I
 think.
 k
 



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread ian cheshire
ok so who's gona do it? nice suggestion Ken :)

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Sent: 01 November 2002 15:03
To: ian cheshire; Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


Ian Cheshire wrote:

Yep lets have a 313 Top DJ..

ok so where do we start and who wants to compile it?

I say, let's just have a top (whatever, 30? 50?) of DJs from anywhere we
like. Of course many will be from Detroit but many won't which is fair I
think.
k

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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread alex . bond
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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Couldn't agree more Stewart.

Sorry to the list about the over reaction.
seeing my name, and others listed seperately freaked me out a bit + the guy
is someone who doesn't contribute too often. (and I haven't got a clue as
far as computers are concerned, thought I'd been infiltrated!?)

+ bad day at work and it's raining (again). Does it ever stop raining in
Manchester?




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Subject:Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD

This sort of meaningless rubbish used to annoy me as well, but you have to
see it for what it is. The chart is compiled based on readers votes, so
rather than being a true chart of the the best DJs in the world, its really
just an indication of what DJ magazine's readers are generally into,
basically cheesy commercial house and trance, on the whole, with the odd
token techno head who is able to throw in a few predictable names like
Clarke, Mills and Hawtin into the hat.

If the same magazine was to carry out an indepedent chart based on nothing
more than a DJ's skills rather than just what overexposed DJ happens to get
the majority of plastic clubbers 'jumpin' after 10 pints of Stella or a
handfill of moody pills every saturday night...then you know the list would
be quite different.

Read it, laugth, then bin it.

On the subject of Eddie Fowlkes, surprised noone has mentioned the two
tracks he dropped on the True People album, TMF 60 and 61. Two of my
favouriate Fowlkes tunes and always mixed into eachother really well!

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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread robin pinning

 On the subject of Eddie Fowlkes, surprised noone has mentioned the two
tracks he dropped on the True People album, TMF 60 and 61. Two of my
favouriate Fowlkes tunes and always mixed into eachother really well!


yeah too right...i'd forgotten them...brilliant

robin...



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD - DJ MAGAZINE

2002-11-01 Thread Stephen Kelly

I think there's a few people missing here. Like Ouchy the Clown
(http://www.ouchytheclown.com/) and Uberbalisubramanian Smith.



oh dear.. many thanks for that one rob ;)

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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread ian cheshire
so in that respect, is trance the biggest its been? or is Teisto playing
other
tunes as well..sorry to ask and its off topic as I mention Trance but I am
intrigued
as it seems history is repeating itself as it does with war etc...cos if it
is then
may be it woould explain why Techno ( like in DJ mag ) is getting more
exposure now as this could be next?

Does anyone feel that Techno is slightly aquirign that hip thing to do at
the mo. like being into Techno.
Someone mentioned Radio 1 saying Fergie was a Techno DJ, ah my
sympathy goes out to you ( I think it was you Marc or Johnnny) :)  hey maybe
someone should sample it and add like Fergie thinks he's a Techno DJ the air
that to the nations :)

Sorry it Friday and I am rambling but I feel after being up since 5 I have
to say these things :)



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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


This sort of meaningless rubbish used to annoy me as well, but you have to
see it for what it is. The chart is compiled based on readers votes, so
rather than being a true chart of the the best DJs in the world, its really
just an indication of what DJ magazine's readers are generally into,
basically cheesy commercial house and trance, on the whole, with the odd
token techno head who is able to throw in a few predictable names like
Clarke, Mills and Hawtin into the hat.

If the same magazine was to carry out an indepedent chart based on nothing
more than a DJ's skills rather than just what overexposed DJ happens to get
the majority of plastic clubbers 'jumpin' after 10 pints of Stella or a
handfill of moody pills every saturday night...then you know the list would
be quite different.

Read it, laugth, then bin it.

On the subject of Eddie Fowlkes, surprised noone has mentioned the two
tracks he dropped on the True People album, TMF 60 and 61. Two of my
favouriate Fowlkes tunes and always mixed into eachother really well!

Stewart


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RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread robin pinning
 so in that respect, is trance the biggest its been? or is Teisto playing
 other
 tunes as well..sorry to ask and its off topic as I mention Trance but I am
 intrigued
 as it seems history is repeating itself as it does with war etc...cos if it
 is then
 may be it woould explain why Techno ( like in DJ mag ) is getting more
 exposure now as this could be next?

i think the more techno oriented electroclash stuff (stuff like
vitalic, kiko) could be next based on
how popular it is in the magstechnoclash anyone? :)

 Does anyone feel that Techno is slightly aquirign that hip thing to do at
 the mo. like being into Techno.
 Someone mentioned Radio 1 saying Fergie was a Techno DJ, ah my
 sympathy goes out to you ( I think it was you Marc or Johnnny) :)

it was me...



robin...



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread ian cheshire
Eddie Fowlkes is loved in Germay , yep the recent release of the Tresor one
went
down like a treat..I saw Marco remus paly it , man its sometimes to see a
big and I mean big
guy go mad and dancing and gettign into the vibe..oh and drink and no joke
drank 1 .5 litres of Bacradi and 4 litres of coke..oh and he was only on for
2 hours!


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 On the subject of Eddie Fowlkes, surprised noone has mentioned the two
tracks he dropped on the True People album, TMF 60 and 61. Two of my
favouriate Fowlkes tunes and always mixed into eachother really well!


yeah too right...i'd forgotten them...brilliant

robin...

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Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Erik Jälevik
Hi everyone

Just joined the list, seems like a good source of info...

 so in that respect, is trance the biggest its been?

This seems weird as I really thought trance had had its day. I mean it was
massive in 1999-2000 at least in the UK but now, it doesn't seem that big at
all.

And whoever mentioned Vitalic, his EP is excellent techno IMO. Not to be
lumped in with the likes of Fischerspooner under the electroclash tag...

Erik



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Pony rocks

-Original Message-
From: Erik Jälevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 4:19 PM
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Hi everyone

Just joined the list, seems like a good source of info...

 so in that respect, is trance the biggest its been?

This seems weird as I really thought trance had had its day. I mean it was
massive in 1999-2000 at least in the UK but now, it doesn't seem that big at
all.

And whoever mentioned Vitalic, his EP is excellent techno IMO. Not to be
lumped in with the likes of Fischerspooner under the electroclash tag...

Erik


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(313) Re: Pony rocks (was RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....)

2002-11-01 Thread Robertson, Steven
It's got a magnificient chaotic noise. First time I heard it played by
Richie Hawtin and it really sounded something special. A sort of discordant
noise that seemed pretty unique to me.


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Sent: 01 November 2002 16:20
To: 'Erik Jälevik'; 313@hyperreal.org
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Pony rocks

-Original Message-
From: Erik Jälevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 4:19 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD


Hi everyone

Just joined the list, seems like a good source of info...

 so in that respect, is trance the biggest its been?

This seems weird as I really thought trance had had its day. I mean it was
massive in 1999-2000 at least in the UK but now, it doesn't seem that big at
all.

And whoever mentioned Vitalic, his EP is excellent techno IMO. Not to be
lumped in with the likes of Fischerspooner under the electroclash tag...

Erik


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Re: (313) Re: Pony rocks (was RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....)

2002-11-01 Thread Erik Jälevik
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 It's got a magnificient chaotic noise. First time I heard it played by
 Richie Hawtin and it really sounded something special. A sort of
discordant
 noise that seemed pretty unique to me.

Agreed. It's one of my absolute favourite records of the last year or so. I
think La Rock 01 has to be the best track though. It's got everything, that
noise, melody, energy and that little vocoder voice...

Erik



RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD....

2002-11-01 Thread Langsman, Marc

I think noadays trance has transmutated into the genre I generally refer to
as 'progressive-nonsense' 
I think if you take a trance tune, make it 3 times longer (hence 3 times
less tracks per mix) and add lots of tribal type stuff then you're in the
right arena. 

Not to be
 lumped in with the likes of Fischerspooner under the 
 electroclash tag...

I have to admit I quite like that fischerspooner track doing the rounds-
first heard it on the dave clarke album but seems to be on the radio like
every 10 seconds by the looks of things. 
Actually I had a look on slsk to see if theyd done anything else worth
listening too but I wasnt too impressed to be honest. 

friday afternoon waffle overout

Marc :]

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