RE: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-11 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Totally.

I don't mind his tracks so much. 

But I hate having to read about him here, where I want to read about
what I *really* love.

Please folks, try to avoid pumping this vapid r'n'b foam into our
Detroit music tower of excellence - even it is admittedly something of
an ivory one - unless there is a direct link.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:51 PM
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Kanye's New LP


Since Kanye West could support nearly every musician in Detroit out of
his sunglasses budget, I don't think we need to talk about him any more.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am I the only one who feels this album is a huge ode to the first few 
 Phil Collins records with the big reverbed drums, autotune that makes 
 to think he's singing In the Air tonight, excellent melodies and 
 slight RB singing style? (lol - and that track paranoid with the 
 mountain of Oberheims  Prophets sound) Hah, it's good fun.

 -Gil






Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-10 Thread Gil Yaker
Am I the only one who feels this album is a huge ode to the first few Phil 
Collins records with the big reverbed drums, autotune that makes to think he's 
singing In the Air tonight, excellent melodies and slight RB singing style? 
(lol - and that track paranoid with the mountain of Oberheims  Prophets sound) 
Hah, it's good fun.

-Gil


  


Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-10 Thread kent williams
Since Kanye West could support nearly every musician in Detroit out of
his sunglasses budget, I don't think we need to talk about him any
more.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am I the only one who feels this album is a huge ode to the first few Phil 
 Collins records with the big reverbed drums, autotune that makes to think 
 he's singing In the Air tonight, excellent melodies and slight RB singing 
 style? (lol - and that track paranoid with the mountain of Oberheims  
 Prophets sound) Hah, it's good fun.

 -Gil






Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-09 Thread darnistle

Arturo Lopez wrote:

That's simplifying things.  My comments were said that sampling and
adding some rhymes didn't constitute pushing things in new directions.
I enjoy a lot of that stuff quite a bit, but it's popcorn. There's
nothing -wrong- with popcorn, and I like a lot of music that has no
aims except to entertain but if it walks like a duck, quacks like
a duck, it's not pushing things.


It could be pushing a turd on your front lawn.

{}0+|


RE: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-03 Thread fran...@thatamazingthing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] it where was this contribution when people were putting 
forward designs for the 313 list T-shirt?


 From: JT Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 02 December 2008 20:19
 
 Analog rules, Hawtin sucks, Techno must innovate, Hitler



Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-03 Thread Arturo Lopez
no worries JT, it's always hard to tell tone on email :)

at the end of the day, we can argue about semantics. and just argue
and get nowhea

Isn't that kinda what we do here? hehe.



On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:51 PM, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...but in general, yes, most sampling does not bring much creativity.
 You need to take that Hitler shite elsewhere, though.

 Hahaha sheesh! My humor may be stupid but it's still humor, barely.



Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-03 Thread Keegan Ead

The other night on the colbert report, Steven commented on kanye's quote

kanye, you're not 'the voice of this generation of this decade', ...  
you're barely the voice of your own album


~ Keegan
Sent from my mobile device.

On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:45 PM, \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


tell sampling sucks to jay dee.  tell it to rza right after the first
wu teng dropped.

no wait, tell sampling sucks to derrick may, who proclaimed, we dont
sample, masters at work does.

see what i'm getting at?

at the end of the day, we can argue about semantics. and just argue
and get nowhea

I mean, sh*t, I'd rather pick rip out my gray hairs than listen to
more than 7 minutes laptop cali dj x's cd on fabric, and i love the
metro area one.

those guys are originals, have integrity, and soul.   Other people are
feelin the opposite way, and i hope i'm not stuck at their party.

All I know is, it's too easy to get upset over this stuff. and the
other point is, crosspolinations are good.

ps, name that hip hop sample on ms-1

pps where the old mayday radio mixtapes at?




On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:51 PM, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
...but in general, yes, most sampling does not bring much  
creativity.

You need to take that Hitler shite elsewhere, though.


Hahaha sheesh! My humor may be stupid but it's still humor, barely.



Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread Martin Dust


On 2 Dec 2008, at 00:36, lisa wrote:

He's hugely talented, for sure, but no one at our radio station is  
digging this new release, mostly citing the overuse of auto tune as  
a reason to dislike the songs on the CD.




Haha, strange how people latch onto things, the main problem with the  
song is it doesn't really go anywhere - it's like a mid-priced Rover  
being driven by an OAP in rush-hour.


I loved the statement he made about Bush and it needed saying but he  
seems to have fail foul of ever popstar cliche in the book, I can't  
wait to see his vile tacky house on cribs!



m


Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread \
fyi, just a few years back, juan atkins played a cutup of cybotron ala
missyand jeff mills, eg, samples a paid in full on shifty disco...
examples of the interchange between between hip hop and techno

although, at the moment, i wouldnt spend a buck on kanye's album, one
cannot deny that hiphop producers certainly do push technology
forward.

ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding me?


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I certainly think he's a talented lyricist at least, maybe that's why
 I expect more.  I actually -really- dug the aesthetics of the last
 tour, I thought it looked quite badass
 http://www.vh1.com/shared/promoimages/news/g/grammys_2008/show/kanye_west/281x211.jpg
 http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_tankboy/2008_02_kanye_tour.gif

 Yea it's a little derivative of stuff we've probably all seen before,
 but it still looks cool as hell imho. If anyone knows who put that
 together, I'd love to see some of their other work.

 I can do without all the covers though, I hate cover songs / egregious
 sampling quite a bit.  Remember Missie and Cybotron from a few years
 back?  I can do without the hip-hoppers raiding the old techno bins
 for hooks.

 -Arturo


 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its actually auto tune, what people use to make bad singers in
 keyhe uses it despite its originally intended use, which is a very
 techno-esque mentality

 his beats are tight, he's slightly annoying but immensely talented




RE: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread Robert Taylor
I understand people being annoyed by voiceovers/intros on mixes - Carl
Craid did the same thing on Kings Of Techno for BBE and kinda ruined it
as a repeatable listening experience. 


Rob Taylor
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-Original Message-
From: \ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 December 2008 15:15
To: Arturo Lopez
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

fyi, just a few years back, juan atkins played a cutup of cybotron ala
missyand jeff mills, eg, samples a paid in full on shifty disco...
examples of the interchange between between hip hop and techno

although, at the moment, i wouldnt spend a buck on kanye's album, one
cannot deny that hiphop producers certainly do push technology forward.

ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding me?


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I certainly think he's a talented lyricist at least, maybe that's why 
 I expect more.  I actually -really- dug the aesthetics of the last 
 tour, I thought it looked quite badass 
 http://www.vh1.com/shared/promoimages/news/g/grammys_2008/show/kanye_w
 est/281x211.jpg 
 http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_tankboy/2008_02_kanye_tou
 r.gif

 Yea it's a little derivative of stuff we've probably all seen before, 
 but it still looks cool as hell imho. If anyone knows who put that 
 together, I'd love to see some of their other work.

 I can do without all the covers though, I hate cover songs / egregious

 sampling quite a bit.  Remember Missie and Cybotron from a few years 
 back?  I can do without the hip-hoppers raiding the old techno bins 
 for hooks.

 -Arturo


 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its actually auto tune, what people use to make bad singers in 
 keyhe uses it despite its originally intended use, which is a 
 very techno-esque mentality

 his beats are tight, he's slightly annoying but immensely talented


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Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread anthony
tHE man has one miss and you guys are hating? How many misses does your
favorite techno artist have? A couple im sure. And most of the time what
misses for you hits for other people.
The man deserves one frankly, i figuered him to be due for a bad record.
Simply because it's never happend till now, in my book.
The metro Area Fabric is dope. Alot of the same records they played when i
saw them in Pittsburgh many years ago but still tremendous!
Luego
A




On Tue, December 2, 2008 10:14 pm, \\ wrote:
 fyi, just a few years back, juan atkins played a cutup of cybotron ala
 missyand jeff mills, eg, samples a paid in full on shifty disco...
 examples of the interchange between between hip hop and techno

 although, at the moment, i wouldnt spend a buck on kanye's album, one
 cannot deny that hiphop producers certainly do push technology
 forward.

 ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding me?


 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I certainly think he's a talented lyricist at least, maybe that's why
 I expect more.  I actually -really- dug the aesthetics of the last
 tour, I thought it looked quite badass
 http://www.vh1.com/shared/promoimages/news/g/grammys_2008/show/kanye_west/281x211.jpg
 http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_tankboy/2008_02_kanye_tour.gif

 Yea it's a little derivative of stuff we've probably all seen before,
 but it still looks cool as hell imho. If anyone knows who put that
 together, I'd love to see some of their other work.

 I can do without all the covers though, I hate cover songs / egregious
 sampling quite a bit.  Remember Missie and Cybotron from a few years
 back?  I can do without the hip-hoppers raiding the old techno bins
 for hooks.

 -Arturo


 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its actually auto tune, what people use to make bad singers in
 keyhe uses it despite its originally intended use, which is a very
 techno-esque mentality

 his beats are tight, he's slightly annoying but immensely talented








RE: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread Robert Taylor
I've only heard one Kanye West song I liked. 
F*** that word 'hating'.
It seems to be unacceptable to say you don't like something. 
Ridiculous. 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 December 2008 16:09
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

tHE man has one miss and you guys are hating? How many misses does your
favorite techno artist have? A couple im sure. And most of the time what
misses for you hits for other people.
The man deserves one frankly, i figuered him to be due for a bad record.
Simply because it's never happend till now, in my book.
The metro Area Fabric is dope. Alot of the same records they played when
i saw them in Pittsburgh many years ago but still tremendous!
Luego
A




On Tue, December 2, 2008 10:14 pm, \\ wrote:
 fyi, just a few years back, juan atkins played a cutup of cybotron ala

 missyand jeff mills, eg, samples a paid in full on shifty disco...
 examples of the interchange between between hip hop and techno

 although, at the moment, i wouldnt spend a buck on kanye's album, one 
 cannot deny that hiphop producers certainly do push technology 
 forward.

 ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding
me?


 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Arturo Lopez 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I certainly think he's a talented lyricist at least, maybe that's why

 I expect more.  I actually -really- dug the aesthetics of the last 
 tour, I thought it looked quite badass 
 http://www.vh1.com/shared/promoimages/news/g/grammys_2008/show/kanye_
 west/281x211.jpg 
 http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_tankboy/2008_02_kanye_to
 ur.gif

 Yea it's a little derivative of stuff we've probably all seen before,

 but it still looks cool as hell imho. If anyone knows who put that 
 together, I'd love to see some of their other work.

 I can do without all the covers though, I hate cover songs / 
 egregious sampling quite a bit.  Remember Missie and Cybotron from a 
 few years back?  I can do without the hip-hoppers raiding the old 
 techno bins for hooks.

 -Arturo


 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its actually auto tune, what people use to make bad singers in 
 keyhe uses it despite its originally intended use, which is a 
 very techno-esque mentality

 his beats are tight, he's slightly annoying but immensely talented






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Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread Frank Glazer
this dude gets 2008's most cryptic 313-poster award

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 isn't the album called 808 something something?

 how is pop culture supposed to swallow use of the name of a drum machine?

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Cyclone Wehner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This may appear to be off topic but Kanye's new LP has a dance music ethos -
 pure minimal RB but with melody. Anyone here into? Kanye used to hang in
 Chi-town house clubs and he's worked with a house vocalist here in Oz,
 Connie Mitchell, on his last LP, incl Flashing Lights. Something is rubbing
 off!






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Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread JT Stewart
I didn't really dig any of the new Kanye stuff I heard, but I like him
fine. He is an open-minded music fan. Soultek (aka Echospace and sorta
part of Deepchord now? Dunno) was at a studio in Chicago a few years
back and was recording/playing some of his stuff...Kanya was hanging
out in the commons room or something and was really excited about it
and was also apparently super nice. So there's a totally mangled and
silly second hand story but still...cool.

I love autotune, I just didn't get into the new Kanya stuff. But he's
definitely an artist and legitimate music fan and not just mainstream
crap you can write off as mainstream crap.

I've been really into that Beyonce Single Ladies song for like 3 days
so far. I like the beat, techno/dubstep (or whateverstep) bite but
it's nice...pads wooo! and the video is super.


Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread Arturo Lopez
In what ways do you think hip hop producers have pushed technology
forward lately?  I don't think they've pushed that much on anything
for the last twenty years or so.  I think a majority of popular hip
hop over the last few decades have just been a series of funk and soul
samples cut up for pop sensibilities, with a good amount of raiding
the electronic music side of things for instrumentation and software.
When 'new' sounds crop up to popular rotation in hip hop, it usually
just sounds like a specific kit on reason or somethingLook at any
of the very top selling artists over the last 15 years or so, Dre,
Snoop, 2Pac, WuTang, Ghostface, Kanye, etc all the popular acts, they
have a good chunk of their best selling music that are repackaged
soul/funk songs with new lyrics. This doesn't mean it's not fun music,
just not really pushing.

I guess I could say the same thing about the top selling electronic
artists though, that's mostly been the same boring sh*t remixed and
repackaged for years now hmmm

-Arturo

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:14 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fyi, just a few years back, juan atkins played a cutup of cybotron ala
 missyand jeff mills, eg, samples a paid in full on shifty disco...
 examples of the interchange between between hip hop and techno

 although, at the moment, i wouldnt spend a buck on kanye's album, one
 cannot deny that hiphop producers certainly do push technology
 forward.

 ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding me?


Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread \
timbaland.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In what ways do you think hip hop producers have pushed technology
 forward lately?  I don't think they've pushed that much on anything
 for the last twenty years or so.  I think a majority of popular hip
 hop over the last few decades have just been a series of funk and soul
 samples cut up for pop sensibilities, with a good amount of raiding
 the electronic music side of things for instrumentation and software.
 When 'new' sounds crop up to popular rotation in hip hop, it usually
 just sounds like a specific kit on reason or somethingLook at any
 of the very top selling artists over the last 15 years or so, Dre,
 Snoop, 2Pac, WuTang, Ghostface, Kanye, etc all the popular acts, they
 have a good chunk of their best selling music that are repackaged
 soul/funk songs with new lyrics. This doesn't mean it's not fun music,
 just not really pushing.

 I guess I could say the same thing about the top selling electronic
 artists though, that's mostly been the same boring sh*t remixed and
 repackaged for years now hmmm

 -Arturo

 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:14 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fyi, just a few years back, juan atkins played a cutup of cybotron ala
 missyand jeff mills, eg, samples a paid in full on shifty disco...
 examples of the interchange between between hip hop and techno

 although, at the moment, i wouldnt spend a buck on kanye's album, one
 cannot deny that hiphop producers certainly do push technology
 forward.

 ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding me?



Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread JT Stewart
Ahh, so the thread is going the sampling does not equal creativity route.

Analog rules, Hawtin sucks, Techno must innovate, Hitler


Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread Arturo Lopez
That's simplifying things.  My comments were said that sampling and
adding some rhymes didn't constitute pushing things in new directions.
I enjoy a lot of that stuff quite a bit, but it's popcorn. There's
nothing -wrong- with popcorn, and I like a lot of music that has no
aims except to entertain but if it walks like a duck, quacks like
a duck, it's not pushing things.

...but in general, yes, most sampling does not bring much creativity.
You need to take that Hitler shite elsewhere, though.



On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ahh, so the thread is going the sampling does not equal creativity route.

 Analog rules, Hawtin sucks, Techno must innovate, Hitler



RE: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread Paul Thurston
ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding me?

Second that.

-Original Message-
From: \ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:15 AM
To: Arturo Lopez
that hiphop producers certainly do push technology
forward.

ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding me?


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread JT Stewart
 ...but in general, yes, most sampling does not bring much creativity.
 You need to take that Hitler shite elsewhere, though.

Hahaha sheesh! My humor may be stupid but it's still humor, barely.


Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread \
tell sampling sucks to jay dee.  tell it to rza right after the first
wu teng dropped.

no wait, tell sampling sucks to derrick may, who proclaimed, we dont
sample, masters at work does.

see what i'm getting at?

at the end of the day, we can argue about semantics. and just argue
and get nowhea

I mean, sh*t, I'd rather pick rip out my gray hairs than listen to
more than 7 minutes laptop cali dj x's cd on fabric, and i love the
metro area one.

those guys are originals, have integrity, and soul.   Other people are
feelin the opposite way, and i hope i'm not stuck at their party.

 All I know is, it's too easy to get upset over this stuff. and the
other point is, crosspolinations are good.

ps, name that hip hop sample on ms-1

pps where the old mayday radio mixtapes at?




On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:51 PM, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...but in general, yes, most sampling does not bring much creativity.
 You need to take that Hitler shite elsewhere, though.

 Hahaha sheesh! My humor may be stupid but it's still humor, barely.



Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-01 Thread Arturo Lopez
I can't get past the overused vocoder.  I'm really sick of every
rapper nowadays using them, all the time. I never really liked top 40
rap, but the last few years seem especially atrocious as far as
mainstream stuff goes.  I think there must have been a fire sale at
the vocoder shop this year, because it's been -everywhere-.

-Arturo


Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-01 Thread Michael Kuszynski
The jerk store has a sale on you!

On 12/1/08, Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't get past the overused vocoder.  I'm really sick of every
 rapper nowadays using them, all the time. I never really liked top 40
 rap, but the last few years seem especially atrocious as far as
 mainstream stuff goes.  I think there must have been a fire sale at
 the vocoder shop this year, because it's been -everywhere-.

 -Arturo



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Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-01 Thread \
its actually auto tune, what people use to make bad singers in
keyhe uses it despite its originally intended use, which is a very
techno-esque mentality

his beats are tight, he's slightly annoying but immensely talented

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't get past the overused vocoder.  I'm really sick of every
 rapper nowadays using them, all the time. I never really liked top 40
 rap, but the last few years seem especially atrocious as far as
 mainstream stuff goes.  I think there must have been a fire sale at
 the vocoder shop this year, because it's been -everywhere-.

 -Arturo



Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-01 Thread lisa
He's hugely talented, for sure, but no one at our radio station is 
digging this new release, mostly citing the overuse of auto tune as a 
reason to dislike the songs on the CD.


Lisa


\ wrote:

its actually auto tune, what people use to make bad singers in
keyhe uses it despite its originally intended use, which is a very
techno-esque mentality

his beats are tight, he's slightly annoying but immensely talented

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I can't get past the overused vocoder.  I'm really sick of every
rapper nowadays using them, all the time. I never really liked top 40
rap, but the last few years seem especially atrocious as far as
mainstream stuff goes.  I think there must have been a fire sale at
the vocoder shop this year, because it's been -everywhere-.

-Arturo





Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-01 Thread Arturo Lopez
I certainly think he's a talented lyricist at least, maybe that's why
I expect more.  I actually -really- dug the aesthetics of the last
tour, I thought it looked quite badass
http://www.vh1.com/shared/promoimages/news/g/grammys_2008/show/kanye_west/281x211.jpg
http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_tankboy/2008_02_kanye_tour.gif

Yea it's a little derivative of stuff we've probably all seen before,
but it still looks cool as hell imho. If anyone knows who put that
together, I'd love to see some of their other work.

I can do without all the covers though, I hate cover songs / egregious
sampling quite a bit.  Remember Missie and Cybotron from a few years
back?  I can do without the hip-hoppers raiding the old techno bins
for hooks.

-Arturo


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its actually auto tune, what people use to make bad singers in
 keyhe uses it despite its originally intended use, which is a very
 techno-esque mentality

 his beats are tight, he's slightly annoying but immensely talented



Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-11-30 Thread Michael Kuszynski
isn't the album called 808 something something?

how is pop culture supposed to swallow use of the name of a drum machine?

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Cyclone Wehner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This may appear to be off topic but Kanye's new LP has a dance music ethos -
 pure minimal RB but with melody. Anyone here into? Kanye used to hang in
 Chi-town house clubs and he's worked with a house vocalist here in Oz,
 Connie Mitchell, on his last LP, incl Flashing Lights. Something is rubbing
 off!






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Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-11-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I have heard Saadiq is on fire live atm and the new material really  
comes to life there.


On 01/12/2008, at 5:23 AM, Christian J. Hewstone wrote:


Yeah, have been listening to it.

the new Q-Tip album is also good. Especially Move produced by J
Dilla, sort of moodymann house
Raphael Saadiq is also worth  listen

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Cyclone Wehner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This may appear to be off topic but Kanye's new LP has a dance  
music ethos -
pure minimal RB but with melody. Anyone here into? Kanye used to  
hang in
Chi-town house clubs and he's worked with a house vocalist here in  
Oz,
Connie Mitchell, on his last LP, incl Flashing Lights. Something  
is rubbing

off!









Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-11-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner

808s  Heartbreak.


On 01/12/2008, at 6:10 AM, Michael Kuszynski wrote:


isn't the album called 808 something something?

how is pop culture supposed to swallow use of the name of a drum  
machine?


On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Cyclone Wehner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This may appear to be off topic but Kanye's new LP has a dance  
music ethos -
pure minimal RB but with melody. Anyone here into? Kanye used to  
hang in
Chi-town house clubs and he's worked with a house vocalist here in  
Oz,
Connie Mitchell, on his last LP, incl Flashing Lights. Something  
is rubbing

off!








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Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-11-30 Thread Andrew Duke

Cyclone Wehner wrote:

808s  Heartbreak.


On 01/12/2008, at 6:10 AM, Michael Kuszynski wrote:


isn't the album called 808 something something?

how is pop culture supposed to swallow use of the name of a drum 
machine?

There's an nice interpolation of Tears For Fears' Memories Fade on his album
he did called Coldest Winter.
Andrew

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Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-11-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Saadiq's new album is the proverbial bomb.
Sweetest soul music that harkens back to the glory days of Motown.

MEK

Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/30/2008 01:17:18
PM:

 I have heard Saadiq is on fire live atm and the new material really
 comes to life there.

 On 01/12/2008, at 5:23 AM, Christian J. Hewstone wrote:

  Yeah, have been listening to it.
 
  the new Q-Tip album is also good. Especially Move produced by J
  Dilla, sort of moodymann house
  Raphael Saadiq is also worth  listen
 
  On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Cyclone Wehner
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This may appear to be off topic but Kanye's new LP has a dance
  music ethos -
  pure minimal RB but with melody. Anyone here into? Kanye used to
  hang in
  Chi-town house clubs and he's worked with a house vocalist here in
  Oz,
  Connie Mitchell, on his last LP, incl Flashing Lights. Something
  is rubbing
  off!