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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Are KJ and Otto actual people? After all, they aren't on Facebook, and all actual people are on Facebook :P Who says I'm not on Facebook? Maybe I'm just underground on Facebook Those who know, know :) Otto PS In the list of classic 313 discussions: - Detroit DJs should not play Mayday. Discuss. - How do I get my hands on a SID record? Why are they not for sale for normal people? That's arrogant! - Moby = Techno And then all of these follow a similar pattern (as Sean Deason once very well observed): - huge flamewar erupts - all the usual trigger words get brought into is: race, politics, underground, sellout, etc. - eluna steps in, cleans up the entire debate in one post that summarizes everything into a conclusion that has everyone going shit, why didn't I see that - everyone shuts up because there's nothing left to say. Almost like 313's version of Godwin's Meme :)
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Aha - you're not on Facebook (me neither!) but I've seen you lurking about on Linkedin :) Corporate Social Networking :) JB On 4 September 2011 09:53, Otto o...@technotourist.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Are KJ and Otto actual people? After all, they aren't on Facebook, and all actual people are on Facebook :P Who says I'm not on Facebook? Maybe I'm just underground on Facebook Those who know, know :) Otto PS In the list of classic 313 discussions: - Detroit DJs should not play Mayday. Discuss. - How do I get my hands on a SID record? Why are they not for sale for normal people? That's arrogant! - Moby = Techno And then all of these follow a similar pattern (as Sean Deason once very well observed): - huge flamewar erupts - all the usual trigger words get brought into is: race, politics, underground, sellout, etc. - eluna steps in, cleans up the entire debate in one post that summarizes everything into a conclusion that has everyone going shit, why didn't I see that - everyone shuts up because there's nothing left to say. Almost like 313's version of Godwin's Meme :)
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Let us not forget, Otto might be a record collector, a TechnoTourist, competetive boatstman, but he is also a Professor of Economics. So always address him as Dr. Otto! On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:55 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: Aha - you're not on Facebook (me neither!) but I've seen you lurking about on Linkedin :) Corporate Social Networking :) JB On 4 September 2011 09:53, Otto o...@technotourist.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Are KJ and Otto actual people? After all, they aren't on Facebook, and all actual people are on Facebook :P Who says I'm not on Facebook? Maybe I'm just underground on Facebook Those who know, know :) Otto PS In the list of classic 313 discussions: - Detroit DJs should not play Mayday. Discuss. - How do I get my hands on a SID record? Why are they not for sale for normal people? That's arrogant! - Moby = Techno And then all of these follow a similar pattern (as Sean Deason once very well observed): - huge flamewar erupts - all the usual trigger words get brought into is: race, politics, underground, sellout, etc. - eluna steps in, cleans up the entire debate in one post that summarizes everything into a conclusion that has everyone going shit, why didn't I see that - everyone shuts up because there's nothing left to say. Almost like 313's version of Godwin's Meme :)
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What about Magda? make the tea Magda :) Jason On 3 September 2011 06:16, Jason Kenjar jasonk1...@gmail.com wrote: that one brings me back :p see also: Why are there no woman in techno.. (covers ears) On Sep 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Is there a hidden message in the Red Planet records? On 3 sep 2011, at 02:27, Fred Heutte wrote: Who is J### M and why does he keep throwing records at me? fh - Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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That's an interesting one David - certainly his blending of his own musicality with samples is truly seamless sometimes and he creates stuff that's greater than the sum of it's parts - the arrangements are indeed pretty epic. I haven't been so keen on most of his work in the last few years but he's definitely more talented than the average joe. jason On 3 September 2011 03:38, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, here's some controversy. In my (quite serious) opinion, THE most INFLUENTIAL and IMPORTANT Detroit techno artist is ... wait for it... MOODYMANN. I'm not joking, it may be considered house, but I think that the way Moodymann records are mixed and structured is quite forward thinking, and maybe the blueprint for things a lot of producers all over the world now are doing, but certainly were not doing when moodymann started doing his thing. Jeff Mills also has done some really forward thinking things with arrangements and mixing, but that aspect of his output hasn't really been that influential in comparison to Jeff's DJ style and his trackier side. The greatest Moodymann record of all time for me is actually recent by the way... it's 2 late 4 u and me!!! Discuss... ;-) ~David
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LOL - I thought that was Vince Watson, no? Jason On 3 September 2011 01:27, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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Ah you want to start a fight with Vince i see :-) I am still want to see vince in his hardcore period, anyone got some pictures of him wearing those white 'raver gloves' all those scottish people were wearing back in ye' old days? :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 09:21, ja...@iridite.com wrote: LOL - I thought that was Vince Watson, no? Jason On 3 September 2011 01:27, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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A - white gloves, boiler suits, dust masks and See You Jimmy hat's (do a Google Search on it!) - those were the days :) Jason On 3 September 2011 10:00, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Ah you want to start a fight with Vince i see :-) I am still want to see vince in his hardcore period, anyone got some pictures of him wearing those white 'raver gloves' all those scottish people were wearing back in ye' old days? :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 09:21, ja...@iridite.com wrote: LOL - I thought that was Vince Watson, no? Jason On 3 September 2011 01:27, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com
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don't worry, y'all. I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. THEN it'll be the good old days! On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote: Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com
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Almost, i am also up for a: Is Lance McGannon and actual person Really i still want to know that :-) Never met anyone who actually has seen him although i heard report about people who spoke to him on the phone KJ On 3 sep 2011, at 15:19, Derek Plaslaiko wrote: don't worry, y'all. I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. THEN it'll be the good old days! On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote: Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com
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sup KJ! long time!...he is indeed a real dude. Met him one day when I was in Cleveland in '97 up at Bent Crayon. Last time I talked to him was a few years ago when he started some fan page on fb for Stasis. minto On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:34 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Almost, i am also up for a: Is Lance McGannon and actual person Really i still want to know that :-) Never met anyone who actually has seen him although i heard report about people who spoke to him on the phone KJ On 3 sep 2011, at 15:19, Derek Plaslaiko wrote: don't worry, y'all. I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. THEN it'll be the good old days! On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote: Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com
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Seriously, you made my day, y ou are the first person who i know who has actually met Lance! I know Otto was about to meet but i guess he chickened out. For years i have thought that Lance nothing more then a very advanced chat program :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 16:04, Minto George wrote: sup KJ! long time!...he is indeed a real dude. Met him one day when I was in Cleveland in '97 up at Bent Crayon. Last time I talked to him was a few years ago when he started some fan page on fb for Stasis. minto On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:34 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Almost, i am also up for a: Is Lance McGannon and actual person Really i still want to know that :-) Never met anyone who actually has seen him although i heard report about people who spoke to him on the phone KJ On 3 sep 2011, at 15:19, Derek Plaslaiko wrote: don't worry, y'all. I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. THEN it'll be the good old days! On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote: Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com
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It's been a few years since I've seen him, but seen him I have. He drove up from Ohio maybe 12 years ago to see The Orb with me in the D. -j On 9/3/2011 9:34 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Almost, i am also up for a: Is Lance McGannon and actual person Really i still want to know that :-) Never met anyone who actually has seen him although i heard report about people who spoke to him on the phone KJ On 3 sep 2011, at 15:19, Derek Plaslaiko wrote:
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Tom isn't on 313 any more, because he got tired of getting into fights here. He's instead concentrating on InfiniteStateMachine.com, his label and making music with his group Pittsburgh Track Authority. I've got his cell # if you want to call him up and have an argument for old times' sake. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Derek Plaslaiko dkp...@gmail.com wrote: don't worry, y'all. I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. THEN it'll be the good old days! On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote: Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com
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I always figured lance mcgannon was a garbled anagram of Klaas-Jan Jongsma! On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Almost, i am also up for a: Is Lance McGannon and actual person Really i still want to know that :-) Never met anyone who actually has seen him although i heard report about people who spoke to him on the phone KJ On 3 sep 2011, at 15:19, Derek Plaslaiko wrote: don't worry, y'all. I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. THEN it'll be the good old days! On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote: Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com
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I've met lance as well, didn't realize he was the waldo of 313. Note one can argue with tom on twitter, if such a need arises. On Sep 3, 2011 2:53 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: I always figured lance mcgannon was a garbled anagram of Klaas-Jan Jongsma! On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Almost, i am also up ...
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Ha ha - I never thought I'd look back on the days of Tom arguing with people with such affection :) Same with Unsel Brown! Magnus - you still out there too??? cheers Jason Peacemaker Brunton On 3 September 2011 20:37, jwan allen jwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: I've met lance as well, didn't realize he was the waldo of 313. Note one can argue with tom on twitter, if such a need arises. On Sep 3, 2011 2:53 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: I always figured lance mcgannon was a garbled anagram of Klaas-Jan Jongsma! On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Almost, i am also up ...
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On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:35 PM, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote: From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com Date: September 3, 2011 6:34:37 AM PDT To: Derek Plaslaiko dkp...@gmail.com Cc: Matt Kane's Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com, 313@hyperreal.org, logic7 log...@cox.net Subject: Re: (313) Lets start some old topics Almost, i am also up for a: Is Lance McGannon an actual person Are KJ and Otto actual people? After all, they aren't on Facebook, and all actual people are on Facebook :P - Greg P.S. Santiago (a.k.a. UR DJ S²) Salazar did a memorial mix for James Stinson on the 9th anniversary of his death today: http://official.fm/tracks/25494 P.P.S. Blake Baxter posted in a comment thread on Kenny Larkin's FB that he would be here in L.A. next week??? Anyone know anything about this?
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I have stayed at Otto's Rotterdam home, and been in KJ's presence several times. They are not fictional! Though KJ is impossibly tall. He gets jars off the top shelf for Yao Ming. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:35 PM, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote: From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com Date: September 3, 2011 6:34:37 AM PDT To: Derek Plaslaiko dkp...@gmail.com Cc: Matt Kane's Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com, 313@hyperreal.org, logic7 log...@cox.net Subject: Re: (313) Lets start some old topics Almost, i am also up for a: Is Lance McGannon an actual person Are KJ and Otto actual people? After all, they aren't on Facebook, and all actual people are on Facebook :P - Greg P.S. Santiago (a.k.a. UR DJ S²) Salazar did a memorial mix for James Stinson on the 9th anniversary of his death today: http://official.fm/tracks/25494 P.P.S. Blake Baxter posted in a comment thread on Kenny Larkin's FB that he would be here in L.A. next week??? Anyone know anything about this?
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i miss those days. he can still be argued with on twitter though! On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Derek Plaslaiko dkp...@gmail.com wrote: don't worry, y'all. I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. THEN it'll be the good old days! On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote: Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com
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the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? Good I'm reading Techno Rebels just now so I understand a tiny bit the conversation. --Kent -- http://www.kentsandvik.com
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Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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and you're proud of this??? :P _ From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:grand...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:27 PM To: List 313 Mailinglist Subject: Re: (313) Lets start some old topics Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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OK then... Yes. So, how about: - Who is Drexciya? - Is anyone into techno-trance? - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Ahem. :^) On 3 September 2011 01:27, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.comwrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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Who is J### M and why does he keep throwing records at me? fh - Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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Is there a hidden message in the Red Planet records? On 3 sep 2011, at 02:27, Fred Heutte wrote: Who is J### M and why does he keep throwing records at me? fh - Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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added a bit for the sake of controversy... _ From: bennglaz...@gmail.com [mailto:bennglaz...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Benn Glazier Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:38 PM To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Lets start some old topics OK then... Yes. So, how about: - Who is Drexciya? - Is anyone into techno-trance? - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? Ahem. :^) On 3 September 2011 01:27, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
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Real? No...Detroit? Only if you count that Dan Bell used to work with with Richie...and that Dan lived in Detroit for years and helped out a bunch of Detroit artists (and even a young black kid from Columbus that nobody's heard of named fbk:)...Richie's early work was at some point the first really 'detroit-inspired' stuff that people could point to on a large scale...but I still say that anyone who talks to me about 'sheet one' SHOULD listen to Eon's 'void dweller' album first...then listen to sheet one...even though sheet one holds up better. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:59 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: added a bit for the sake of controversy... From: bennglaz...@gmail.com [mailto:bennglaz...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Benn Glazier Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:38 PM To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Lets start some old topics OK then... Yes. So, how about: - Who is Drexciya? - Is anyone into techno-trance? - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? Ahem. :^) On 3 September 2011 01:27, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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Windsor is nothing more than Detroit's coolest suburb. Always remember that. Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: Real? No...Detroit? Only if you count that Dan Bell used to work with with Richie...and that Dan lived in Detroit for years and helped out a bunch of Detroit artists (and even a young black kid from Columbus that nobody's heard of named fbk:)...Richie's early work was at some point the first really 'detroit-inspired' stuff that people could point to on a large scale...but I still say that anyone who talks to me about 'sheet one' SHOULD listen to Eon's 'void dweller' album first...then listen to sheet one...even though sheet one holds up better. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:59 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: added a bit for the sake of controversy... From: bennglaz...@gmail.com [mailto:bennglaz...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Benn Glazier Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:38 PM To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Lets start some old topics OK then... Yes. So, how about: - Who is Drexciya? - Is anyone into techno-trance? - The monthly Hawtin thread. Hair or no hair? Glasses or contacts? Windsor or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit? Ahem. :^) On 3 September 2011 01:27, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-) On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote: the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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Okay, here's some controversy. In my (quite serious) opinion, THE most INFLUENTIAL and IMPORTANT Detroit techno artist is ... wait for it... MOODYMANN. I'm not joking, it may be considered house, but I think that the way Moodymann records are mixed and structured is quite forward thinking, and maybe the blueprint for things a lot of producers all over the world now are doing, but certainly were not doing when moodymann started doing his thing. Jeff Mills also has done some really forward thinking things with arrangements and mixing, but that aspect of his output hasn't really been that influential in comparison to Jeff's DJ style and his trackier side. The greatest Moodymann record of all time for me is actually recent by the way... it's 2 late 4 u and me!!! Discuss... ;-) ~David
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that one brings me back :p see also: Why are there no woman in techno.. (covers ears) On Sep 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Is there a hidden message in the Red Planet records? On 3 sep 2011, at 02:27, Fred Heutte wrote: Who is J### M and why does he keep throwing records at me? fh - Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? :-)) KJ
