RE: (313) SONY....................BONY
I think this addresses more those people (I count myself in) who already own a Minidisc and a number of discs. Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:32 PM To: Maxim Sullivan Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) SONYBONY first things to consider... the 45 hours of music is encoded at 48kbs, which is pitiful quality. mp3's at their 'lowest' quality should be 128- so your hours is now down to 15. if 15 hours of music is all you're looking for, than there's much smaller- cheaper- mp3 player out there than either the ipod or the sony. also- i wonder how the music transfer works? it takes about 30 minutes to load 30GB of music onto my ipod via USB2. things to look into before buying. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Maxim Sullivan wrote: And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler, cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
(313) SONY....................BONY
And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler, cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
RE: (313) SONY....................BONY
but apple didn't do a trance version of jaguar like sony did. ...and miraculously were back on topic :) robin... - -Original Message- - From: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - org] On Behalf Of Maxim Sullivan - Sent: 19 January 2004 11:00 - To: 313@hyperreal.org - Subject: (313) SONYBONY - - - And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks - much cooler, - cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
Re: (313) SONY....................BONY
first things to consider... the 45 hours of music is encoded at 48kbs, which is pitiful quality. mp3's at their 'lowest' quality should be 128- so your hours is now down to 15. if 15 hours of music is all you're looking for, than there's much smaller- cheaper- mp3 player out there than either the ipod or the sony. also- i wonder how the music transfer works? it takes about 30 minutes to load 30GB of music onto my ipod via USB2. things to look into before buying. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Maxim Sullivan wrote: And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler, cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
Re: (313) SONY....................BONY
The new iPod Mini's are way cool. http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/ K. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 19, 2004 4:31 pm Subject: Re: (313) SONYBONY first things to consider... the 45 hours of music is encoded at 48kbs, which is pitiful quality. mp3's at their 'lowest' quality should be 128- so your hours is now down to 15. if 15 hours of music is all you're looking for, than there's much smaller- cheaper- mp3 player out there than either the ipod or the sony. also- i wonder how the music transfer works? it takes about 30 minutes to load 30GB of music onto my ipod via USB2. things to look into before buying. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Maxim Sullivan wrote: And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler, cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
[313] it looks like sony did it again...
I got this from the EMD site, home of the synaptic waves label. http://www.emd-berlin.de/story.htm fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 'sony detroit techno' combo package. OT
I was watching an advertisement the other day on TV (Australian) i think during the panel or rove, It was for the SONY Walkman/Minidisc. Firstly I was suprised that they were promoting this format. Secondly the Ad was made to look like your music could be made to order 'fast-food style' with some people at a drive through window picking up the package. But I heard the guy say something like Detroit techno' combo package...!!! he speaks really fast and it is not easy to hear what is says..just thought I would share that with you all..let me know if you caught it also.. cheers, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] 'sony detroit techno' combo package. OT
Heh, I am ashamed to say my ears pricked up during this ad as well - Detroit techno??? what?? what? where?? who? huh?? ;)) The guy rattles off a list of genres to put onto the super-combo minidisc. Its just a pity that when the customer puts the disc in and starts listening that the music isn't Sandwiches or some Recloose, but I guess Sony's knowledge only stretches so far... Respect JasonB -- From: Dave Barnett[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:24 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] 'sony detroit techno' combo package. OT I was watching an advertisement the other day on TV (Australian) i think during the panel or rove, It was for the SONY Walkman/Minidisc. Firstly I was suprised that they were promoting this format. Secondly the Ad was made to look like your music could be made to order 'fast-food style' with some people at a drive through window picking up the package. But I heard the guy say something like Detroit techno' combo package...!!! he speaks really fast and it is not easy to hear what is says..just thought I would share that with you all..let me know if you caught it also.. cheers, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Sony laptop commercial/soundtrack
Did anyone see the Sony Vaio laptop tv commercial that has a minimal, clicky soundtrack? All of the sounds in the soundtrack were different computer keyboard sounds of many different tones sequenced in brilliant, intricate rhythmic patterns. Is this anyone's work in particular? steve _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UR vs. Sony
Hi, does anyone know what the outcome of this case was? are they still in litigation? Did BMG ever release the trace version or any other version of the cover? I'm writing a paper on this for my cultural production and intellectual property law class and would greatly appreciate any info people have. Everywhere I've looked has info up until the early part of 2000 and then it stops. thanks for your time, bekka =) Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
sony / ur
two questions: 1) does anyone know a website that gives a full run-down the sony / ur fiasco? 2) does it strike anyone as odd that derrick may and juan atkins are presently part of the _sony_ playstation2 tour? i mean, the gaming division of the corporation is pretty far removed from the music component, but still under the same company. does this match-up fly in the face of the unity (or lack thereof) of the detroit scene, or is playsation too far removed from the ur / sony dispute to matter? thoughts? (i don't know the whole ur / sony story: maybe atkins and may shouldn't feel any obligation to refrain from pairing up with sony). kyle
Re: [313] sony / ur
I think this is interesting. I work for a Fortune 25 company. We have 85,000 employees. We have or have had nearly 100 subsidiaries. Without being specific, I can tell you that different segments of the company have much worse track records than others. There is no single mind behind corporations. They are political products as much as a government. The management model for the federal government is even becoming more like corporations by the day. The DOD is even outsourcing systems work to one of our companies - the Depeartment of Defense is outsourcing and they predict this will start a trend. But anyway, you have all sorts of decisions made on a daily basis that don't even get direct approval from a vice president, if even a director. Chances are, the playstation division knows less about UR than any of us do, and Derrick May has had some kind of a relationship with them for some time - at least dating back to the video game soundtrack he contributed tracks to. This may have been an agreement with the software company, but he's clearly shown an interest in the Playstation in particular. When I first heard about the Jaguar ripoff I thought I would boycott Sony and skip the Playstation 2. But I think it's ineffective to boycott a division of a company that's completely removed from the offensive division. It does them no harm to them at all as long as they meet their budget. Should we boycott BMG (I think that was their name)? I doubt we'd be buying much from them anyway. This raises the question of how you respond to corporations that have no single accountable face. As corporations begin to exert almost as much control over our lives as the government I think this question needs an answer. I don't have it. I don't think this is the place to discuss it at length, but I thought I'd offer a corporate insiders perspective on the whole deal, and offer up that there aren't any easy answers, perhaps in hopes of preventing a lengthy flame war in advance. State and Federal regulators deal with this sort of problem daily with little success. As you might be able to figure out if you looked closely enough at this message, I work for WorldCom. If you're curious how I balance my disdain for mega-corporations and conscience working for one at the same time, I act in a consumer advocacy role for the company, and getting that job is what keeps me there. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:28 PM Subject: [313] sony / ur two questions: 1) does anyone know a website that gives a full run-down the sony / ur fiasco? 2) does it strike anyone as odd that derrick may and juan atkins are presently part of the _sony_ playstation2 tour? i mean, the gaming division of the corporation is pretty far removed from the music component, but still under the same company. does this match-up fly in the face of the unity (or lack thereof) of the detroit scene, or is playsation too far removed from the ur / sony dispute to matter? thoughts? (i don't know the whole ur / sony story: maybe atkins and may shouldn't feel any obligation to refrain from pairing up with sony). kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
sony
hell, Rage Against The Machine is on Sony. That's my favorite bit of irony. -d Dan Sicko http://www.reverbmag.com http://www.techno-rebels.com
Re: [313] UR vs Sony (from dancesite.com)
Pete Tong play UR records... could this s***er understand underground music or playing Jaguar original that's a new London-Ibiza hype. Because this Brit hype-popstar DJs crew plaid last year the Sony cover! I don't remember me, if it was Pete Tong, Sascha, Seb Fontaine... --- Vinnie Lalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detroit techno warriors Underground Resistance have been vindicated for their decision to fight Sony when the major label tried to cover their underground anthem, Knights Of The The Jaguar last year, judging from the massive hype now accompanying the UR original. Carl Cox, Pete Tong and Jon Carter have all started tipping it as THE record of 2000, and even NME have jumped on the bandwagon, declaring it as this year's Ibiza anthem. UR themselves remain unaffected by the hype, writing on their website, For those who know, stay low, stay strong, stay ready, stay underground. For those who don't, learn. For those who stole the soul, live in fear as the spirits will track you into your next life and beyond. Nothing good will come to you.. . http://www.dancesite.com/news5.shtml - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
UR vs Sony (from dancesite.com)
Detroit techno warriors Underground Resistance have been vindicated for their decision to fight Sony when the major label tried to cover their underground anthem, Knights Of The The Jaguar last year, judging from the massive hype now accompanying the UR original. Carl Cox, Pete Tong and Jon Carter have all started tipping it as THE record of 2000, and even NME have jumped on the bandwagon, declaring it as this year's Ibiza anthem. UR themselves remain unaffected by the hype, writing on their website, For those who know, stay low, stay strong, stay ready, stay underground. For those who don't, learn. For those who stole the soul, live in fear as the spirits will track you into your next life and beyond. Nothing good will come to you.. . http://www.dancesite.com/news5.shtml
Re: (313) new kraftwerk; not another sony; syntax
SEAN The Kraftwerk track Expo 2000 is dubby electronic - not quite the same electro-proto-techno of old. In this case, the bootlegger (read: remixer) is simply putting a techno/dancefloor face on the new track. This doesn't mean it's any good tho! (BTW - How are things Sean? Interested in coming back to IC sometime? Where's that new album?!?) ASKEW The remixer has ties to many artists in Germany and New York, and furthermore, it is my understanding that the boot is in a *small* run by people respectful of artists' rights. There will be one source worldwide to find this particular record. This is not another Sony/UR situation. Although I do not know the remixer personally, I am familiar with his work. And since I haven't heard the remix yet I can't vouch for it being any good. We'll see in a couple of weeks when it come back from the plant. SYNTAX Speaking of Sony/UR/Jaguar, please write to Syntax Distribution and encourage them to remove Type - Jaguar from their stock. I speak for (at least!) a few listmembers who were disappointed to see Syntax first send out a long mail detailing the copyright situation, only to find the Sony record in question added to their stock list 3 weeks later!! Surprisingly, Watts has not picked the cover up - in fact they are distributing Rolondo's Jaguar this week. Cheers to that, at least. Vince http://www.nodal.com/from0to1 http://jump.to/iowacityunderground - Original Message - From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 11:10 AM Subject: (313) new kraftwerk sean wrote: Boot? why would that be necessary? I just saw a stack of them (the legit release) at Recordtime this past weekend on the Electra label. I didnt get around to listening to it though, so I have no idea what the record sounds like. But with current major label releases why on earth would any think a boot leg was needed? Boots are generally reserved for rare/hard to get/out of print classics, or so I thought. In 2000 bootlegs are reserved for new-release/hard to buy-off/still in print classics... so you don't have to pay, or give any credit to, the original artist label... and if your bootleg reaches the right ears... you get yourself a pack of lawyers... and then sit back and take the pay-off. Sony... the one and only. ~Askew __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
(313) more ur vs. sony
sorry if this has been here already, but you can check some interviews at: http://www.etronik.com/section.asp?sectionId=8IssueId=35 e. rautio, also known as pHinn * the webmaster of pHinnWeb - the old skool, the nu skool * * and the pHuture skool of Finnish electronic music * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb *
(313) sony and food on the table...
maybe, but by f**cking with the whole chain of command (musically speaking) bypassing the whole licensing thing, dirk others like him open up the door for some really ugly situations. and in light of the mp3 fiasco and mixedtapes crackdown, i'm honestly surprised to hear and see sony bmg, like you said, biting the hand that feeds them namely independent artists and labels. he eventually might not have a job, just based on the situation he's created. food for thought. sand. From: Bailey Paul P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Sanderson Dear' [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: '313 list' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's with [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:40:09 - I dont know, I guess the guy might like to keep putting food on the table and retain his job. you dont bite the hand that feeds you... Paul -Original Message- From: Sanderson Dear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2000 14:04 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's with [EMAIL PROTECTED] what is with the people at sony (ger.), they seem to think they're free and clear of any liability in this whole UR thing. at least that's the impression i get after firing off an email to the man responsible for this whole fiasco. has anyone else got the same smugness? curious. sand. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
(313) Re: techno and blue/ur/bmg/sony/oldham et al (long)
the majors often do whatever it takes to makes $, that's just the way some people run their businesses. look at the UR versus sony and bmg thing. sadly yet another case of money vs. music. writers, on the other hand, shouldn't be writing solely for the sake of $, they should have some sort of interest int he truth, and have a responsibility to do research, get the facts, etc. calling blue techno is at first glance a minor thing, but in the whole scheme of things it's symptomatic of a greater problem as a whole in the mass media when it comes to writing about techno. in short, it's lazy journalism, as far as i can see, but it also propagates this --ism, this ignorant fear of the other that is the basis of racism, homophobia, sexism, et al. this lack of thinking that shoves techno and things we hold dear into this other corner so those who *don't know* can continue to educate the public with their misunderstanding and misinformation. (i'll digress for a minute: cleaning up at my old house at the end of january, it was a literally freezing cold day and this young man was running down the street in front of my old place in his bare feet with just shorts and a t shirt on. my girlfriend said hmm, must be drunk, but even drunk people have a bit more sense than that. yesterday, waiting for the bus, again, it was a freezing cold day. everyone at the bus stop had on winter jackets, hats, gloves, scarves, etc. but this one man had on just jeans and a *t shirt*. people were freaking out behind his back oh my god, this guy is wearing just a t shirt outside and it's like minus ten below (celcius)) thinking he was some sort of crazy man. well, it's likely that he (and the bare foot man) were having a manic episode (bipolar or schizophrenic) and they just didn't realize how cold it was because the weather was not registering with them. i was standing right next to the man at the bus stop and he wasn't even shivering, wasn't exhibiting anything to show that his body was even registering the cold. but, because he was different, this other, people just couldn't deal with it. back to the techno thing: writers and people who can't deal with techno, either because they're unfamiliar with what techno really is or because they are content with the mainstream status quo, exhibit this fear of the other when they hear something they don't know/understand and think aha!--techno. so these journalists who don't have a clue what techno is often call something techno when they really mean i don't know what to call this. that blue track is just european dance music that comes from stuff like culture beat, technotronic, real mccoy, etc. but a journalist who doesn't know this simply thinks hmmm, this doesn't sound like the dance music i know like madonna, so, HEY, it must be TECHNO. (i had a guy call my halifax radio show and say he really liked what he was hearing. think i was playing something 313 at the time. but then the first thing he mentioend was that damn blue track and how it was so underground and he could only get it on this one certain compilation and how he loved techno. etc. i tried to explain that because the song was hard to find on a compilation and new to him, it didn't make it techno, but i don't think he really understood. it's things like that that frustrate. how can you present atkins, bell, hood, et al to people who think blue is techno? alan oldham mentioned this general area in a recent interview: it's near impossible to get detroit techno respect/understanding in north america in the mainstream when you've got mainstream media propogating things like eiffel 65's blue = techno. again, it seems like a silly thing to discuss on 313, but it's the little things like this that can often have a big effect. the word techno *needs* have meaning, but the misuse of it takes that true meaning away and dilutes it for those who really are techno. rolando's jaguar is truly a techno classic, and, setting aside the greed and copyright violation aspects of the ur/sony/bmg case, it's diluting a classic to do such a horrible cover/grab version. people might hear that cover/grab version *first* (or might never hear the real version) and think oh, so 'that's techno'!. we definitely don't want that. more: not sure if you've heard of the jazz artist jerry granelli, but he did an album with a local hip hop artist here (stinkin' rich) in halifax and the album got reviewed last week by a halifax writer who usually only writes about *classical* music. he wrote that the album had jazz, hip hop, and even techno material. i have a promo of the album in question and it's got the jazz and the hip hop, but i don't have a friggin' clue how this local writer got the word techno in there, unless, because he's used to writing about classical music only, he just thought hmmm, i don't know what this is, so HEY, it must be TECHNO. again, that's lazy journalism, and, being a writer myself, i get really really pissed off about that. here in halifax
RE: (313) sony and food on the table...
Sand, Yes, I got the same form letter from Dirk. I responded back to him and Dirk's boss in regards to the fact that they have not payed any royalties for their release of the product nor have they provided a public apology in regards to it. They are definitely not out of the game. They would like to delude us into thinking that and pass the buck onto BMG. I urge you to continue to contact Dirk, Dirk's Boss and the rest of SONY and especially BMG and let them know that you as a consumer are expressing your beliefs to them. That we do not have any type of legal action that we can take as consumers but what we can do as a consumer is to ensure that we continue to Boycott them and their affiliates (BMG - Random House - Windham Hill - RCA Records - Arista Records - Deconstruction - Logic Records) (Sony - Epic Records - Columbia - Loaded - Creation - Incredible Records - Relativity) will continue to provide the media and inform other consumers of this pressing issue. With the impending merger of Sony Music and BMG to make the largest Record Label in the World, they need to know how we feel and will act. As a consumer, I will try to spread this as far as possible. From writing to my local newspaper to contacting the New York Post. Boycott Sony! Dave -Original Message- From: Sanderson Dear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2000 14:04 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's with [EMAIL PROTECTED] what is with the people at sony (ger.), they seem to think they're free and clear of any liability in this whole UR thing. at least that's the impression i get after firing off an email to the man responsible for this whole fiasco. has anyone else got the same smugness? curious. sand. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - Renegade Rhythms email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exploring the Inner Dimensions of Sound Tel: 503-973-1806 Fax: 503-253-0736 or Email to Fax gateway: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: (313) WEB ARTICLES REGARDING UR vs SONY???
try http://mycal.net/ifj/ur/ Could someone please send me e-mail addresses of any good articles regarding the whole UR/SONY/BMG thang ASAP??? Thanx! TP
(313) WEB ARTICLES REGARDING UR vs SONY???
Could someone please send me e-mail addresses of any good articles regarding the whole UR/SONY/BMG thang ASAP??? Thanx! TP
RE: (313) WEB ARTICLES REGARDING UR vs SONY???
Terrence, Hello, Unfortunatetly their has not been enough press written up on this subject. I have put up a page (http://www.RenegadeRhythms.com/ur/) to try to make it easier to see the chronological order of the entire issue. The page itself needs quite a bit of work (which I'll be doing this weekend!), but the information itself is their. Most of the correspondence that has gone on between UR and Sony. As well as the correspondence that has been going on From UR BMG. I have included a links (www.RenegadeRhythms.com/ur/links.html) section that includes the articles that I have run across. Supposedly XLR8R and URB have some items coming up but I haven't seen them yet. This months Jockey Slut has a brief mention in the news section... but I don't think they are online any more. UK magazines Muzik and DJMag have stories on this but I haven't been able to find them online either... (any one care to scan and send me all these articles?) www.dancesite.com had an article up last week but it's down now. I do have a local copy of it if you would like. I am currently waiting permission from the publishers for reposting on my site. That's the sad fact at this point. Not enought press on this very IMPORTANT issue for all musicians. So once again , I would like to have a call to arms for the Underground. BMG has released a video of the cover that is now playing on German TV and the last I heard, the cover was #4 in the German Dance music charts. To top all of this off, Sony still has not payed any royalties nor provided a public apology for their part in all of this. I urge everybody to contact SONY, BMG Bertelsmann to let them know how their actions are being viewed. Please contact your local press as well as all the national press that you can find. Remember YOU WILL BE NEXT! Boycott BMG/SONY, David (a concerned consumer) = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Could someone please send me e-mail addresses of any good articles regarding the whole UR/SONY/BMG thang ASAP??? Thanx! TP - Renegade Rhythms email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exploring the Inner Dimensions of Sound Tel: 503-973-1806 Fax: 503-253-0736 or Email to Fax gateway: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
(313) UR vs Sony in Mixer mag?
Forgive me if someone has mentioned this already... I was at a newstand today and noticed that the current issue of Mixer magazine has a cover story on Underground Resistance vs Sony. I opened the magazine to the table of contents and couldn't find it listed anywhere. I didn't have the patience to wade through all the awful trance ads and paul okenfouled articles to find it. Did anyone else? It would be interesting to see how they cover the situation. Seth http://www.belief-systems.com
Re: (313) UR vs Sony in Mixer mag?
I glossed over the article, primarily because it was covered like most of the other articles on this subject that I have seen. They presented the facts and little more (a good thing imo). I'll dig up the article and post it if there is interest. Otherwise I can just Email it to you privately Seth. T On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Seth wrote: Forgive me if someone has mentioned this already... I was at a newstand today and noticed that the current issue of Mixer magazine has a cover story on Underground Resistance vs Sony. I opened the magazine to the table of contents and couldn't find it listed anywhere. I didn't have the patience to wade through all the awful trance ads and paul okenfouled articles to find it. Did anyone else? It would be interesting to see how they cover the situation. Seth http://www.belief-systems.com
Re: (313) BMG and Sony
That's the way a company shows profit--fire folks, drop artists, increase your own pay, but at a percentage that won't make shareholders freak out. Bertelsmann isn't a publically traded company. The only 'shareholders' in this case are two non-profit foundations and the Mohn family (which was responsible for the transfer of shares to the foundations in the first place). Strange as it may seem, not all companies (large or small) are completely lacking in for lack of a better word - culture. The problem is, of course, there is no musical outlook, no creative outlook to say, are we stronger musically? Do we have a broader range of acts to complement each other and create a powerful entertainment entity? These are the questions that the financial bottom line will not answer. From what I understand they have a long standing tradition of supporting the arts independent of profit. If I recall correctly their primary goal is to 'contribute to the advancement of society'. Not exactly the standard 'build shareholder value' mission statement. Independant of the above I wouldn't worry too much about this rumor though as it seems completely off base. - George
(313) Sony/BMG, what's the difference?
Okay, so we all know what happened with the Sony Jaguar cover mysteriously going to Bertelsmann/BMG. Now read the following: In this week's issue (nr. 3) of German mag Der Spiegel, Bertelsmann CEO Thomas Middelhoff is quoted as saying The takeover of a music firm has priority. Sony Music and EMI are candidates. Sony Music or EMI? Gosh, I wonder which of the two that is going to be... It's all falling into place now... Otto PS See http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/nf/0,1518,59901,00.html for the full article (in German though)
Re: (313) A. Empire also pissed at Sony
on 1/11/00 8:02 PM, matrix at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out the article in NME, headman from Atari Teenage Riot also mentions UR ripoff. This is getting good. Does anybody know if Sony is hosting a party at WMC? Might be worth the conference pass price just to walk in wearing a t-shirt that says, Sony stole my track too. The mind wanders... There4IM
Re: (313) A. Empire also pissed at Sony
Great concept. Now I have a reason to register!! From: There4IM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) A. Empire also pissed at Sony Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:31:18 -0500 on 1/11/00 8:02 PM, matrix at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out the article in NME, headman from Atari Teenage Riot also mentions UR ripoff. This is getting good. Does anybody know if Sony is hosting a party at WMC? Might be worth the conference pass price just to walk in wearing a t-shirt that says, Sony stole my track too. The mind wanders... There4IM __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) Sony seeks musician domain names for life
Are http://www.derrickmay.com/ and http://www.jeffmills.com/ spoken for now? If Sony decides to own www.jeffmills.com, what's wrong with me starting my own website called www.jeffmills.cow or something like that -- I mean *it is* a different name.
RE: (313) Sony seeks musician domain names for life
Because domain name servers currently don't recognize (and won't propogate) domain names that end in something other than .com (.org., .net, .gov., .edu, etc). You'd type in www.jeffmills.cow and get a page not found error essentially. __ Abraham Chandler Bates Protel Technology Inc. [800] 544-4186 http://www.protel.com __ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of cyborg elpH Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 1:17 AM Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Sony seeks musician domain names for life Are http://www.derrickmay.com/ and http://www.jeffmills.com/ spoken for now? If Sony decides to own www.jeffmills.com, what's wrong with me starting my own website called www.jeffmills.cow or something like that -- I mean *it is* a different name.
(313) Sony seeks musician domain names for life
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-120262.html?tag=st.ne.1002.tgif?st.ne.fd.gif.d Are http://www.derrickmay.com/ and http://www.jeffmills.com/ spoken for now? T
Re: (313) Sony seeks musician domain names for life
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-120262.html?tag=st.ne.1002.t gif?st.ne.fd.gif.d Are http://www.derrickmay.com/ and http://www.jeffmills.com/ spoken for now? No response on JeffMills.com, but DerrickMay.com is listed to an individual in L.A. Hm. Domain-squatting anyone? I call dibs on Drexciya.com... - There4IM
