Re: [AI] Socialising
Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem is that I study way too much :P Studies can only take you so far in life. Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament. So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and beside the point. Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted escort is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and consider you an intrusion. So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not use him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends. I know you will have to work your way to it. All the best. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising High Rahul, Why do you like someone's company? I fully agree with this sentence. I think first of all you concentrate more on your study. Best of luck for your HSC exam. Don't thinks negative. Now see how many reply come to you? These are all friends, so why are you worry? On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Rahul, Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in. All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it through action and performance. How? Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions for a little time. Why do you like someone's company? Are you getting some answers? It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality, talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and rendering help. Cheerful smile and sense of humor attract embrace from people. You must be possessing many of above mentioned qualities. Capitalize on it. People will not come to you unless they believe that you add value to their lives in any which way. To be specific, try to normalize your life style as much as you can with your mainstream peers. You should be at least partially independent in mobility to gain others confidence in you. How do you walk to your place after getting down from your car? Who picks up your bag and carry it? Does always your aid only find things for you before you extend your hands? Then time to thing and act my friend. Even though blessed with multiple difficulties, I have lived an excellent college life. And those joyous moments and friends are real treasures of my life. Therefore, make the most of it. That time never comes back. Finally, keep your head high exuberating brilliance, confidence and substance with a little smile and things will fall in place. Good luck Do call me on Sundays if need be. I would like to know about a girl you like. Joking. Haha! Pardon me if you didn't like any of the things mentioned above. ~Cheers On 11/27/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I hope you all are well. Like I've mentioned in my earlier posts, I'm 17 and am currently in 12th grade. I have quite a few sighted friends, but I've noticed that they hardly ever call me when they go for movies, have birthday parties or have get-togethers. I feel that my visual impairment is a major reason for this. We have appointed a sighted guide who goes with me everywhere. So, I often get depressed and frustrated when my friends don't call me. In fact, for me, this is the biggest challenge that I currently have to face due to my visual impairment. I can't even ask my friends if they don't call me because of my visual problem, because none of them will ever admit it. So, has anyone here faced this problem? Please share your views and suggestions. Cheers, Rahul Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention, but it is the current beneath the water that determines your direction. Search for old postings at:
Re: [AI] Socialising
Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem is that I study way too much :P Studies can only take you so far in life. Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament. So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and beside the point. Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted escort is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and consider you an intrusion. So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not use him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends. I know you will have to work your way to it. All the best. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising High Rahul, Why do you like someone's company? I fully agree with this sentence. I think first of all you concentrate more on your study. Best of luck for your HSC exam. Don't thinks negative. Now see how many reply come to you? These are all friends, so why are you worry? On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Rahul, Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in. All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it through action and performance. How? Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions for a little time. Why do you like someone's company? Are you getting some answers? It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality, talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and rendering help. Cheerful smile and sense of humor attract embrace from people. You must be possessing many of above mentioned qualities. Capitalize on it. People will not come to you unless they believe that you add value to their lives in any which way. To be specific, try to normalize your life style as much as you can with your mainstream peers. You should be at least partially independent in mobility to gain others confidence in you. How do you walk to your place after getting down from your car? Who picks up your bag and carry it? Does always your aid only find things for you before you extend your hands? Then time to thing and act my friend. Even though blessed with multiple difficulties, I have lived an excellent college life. And those joyous moments and friends are real treasures of my life. Therefore, make the most of it. That time never comes back. Finally, keep your head high exuberating brilliance, confidence and substance with a little smile and things will fall in place. Good luck Do call me on Sundays if need be. I would like to know about a girl you like. Joking. Haha! Pardon me if you didn't like any of the things mentioned above. ~Cheers On 11/27/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I hope you all are well. Like I've mentioned in my earlier posts, I'm 17 and am currently in 12th grade. I have quite a few sighted friends, but I've noticed that they hardly ever call me when they go for movies, have birthday parties or have get-togethers. I feel that my visual impairment is a major reason for this. We have appointed a sighted guide who goes with me everywhere. So, I often get depressed and frustrated when my friends don't
Re: [AI] Confusion regarding scribe’s qualification in CWE,IBPS
On 12/1/11, bijal patel bijalpatel...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, I am going to attend CWE in iBPS on 11th of DEC. I have completed post graduation and B.Ed. Question regarding scribe: .what should be scribe’s qualification?One grade Below according to my educational qualification or below 12th standard? I am more confused, so please, solve my query as early as possible. Thanks. Bijal. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Hello Bijal, It will be one grade lower than 12th standard. Regards Shiv Kumar Kolkata Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Socialising
Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem is that I study way too much :P Studies can only take you so far in life. Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament. So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and beside the point. Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted escort is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and consider you an intrusion. So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not use him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends. I know you will have to work your way to it. All the best. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising High Rahul, Why do you like someone's company? I fully agree with this sentence. I think first of all you concentrate more on your study. Best of luck for your HSC exam. Don't thinks negative. Now see how many reply come to you? These are all friends, so why are you worry? On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Rahul, Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in. All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it through action and performance. How? Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions for a little time. Why do you like someone's company? Are you getting some answers? It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality, talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and rendering help. Cheerful smile and sense of humor attract embrace from people. You must be possessing many of above mentioned qualities. Capitalize on it. People will not come to you unless they believe that you add value to their lives in any which way. To be specific, try to normalize your life style as much as you can with your mainstream peers. You should be at least partially independent in mobility to gain others confidence in you. How do you walk to your place after getting down from your car? Who picks up your bag and carry it? Does always your aid only find things for you before you extend your hands? Then time to thing and act my friend. Even though blessed with multiple difficulties, I have lived an
Re: [AI] doubt about talks and c5
Hello Priyesh, The Nokia C5 is a good buy for the usability and pricing with talks software. I have the same phone with me and it works great on messaging and calls. I do not use the internet on the phone, so I cannot comment on the performance on that. I bought this phone from Bangalore and it costed me 8,000 with the talks licenced software it was on a scheme buy, otherwise you pay an additional of 5,000 just for talks, I am given to believe that the phone costs around 6,500 or closer. I suggest you contact someone that can give you the phone on the scheme, that way you do not have to install the softwaere seprately. Mujtaba Merchant Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Socialising
Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem is that I study way too much :P Studies can only take you so far in life. Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament. So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and beside the point. Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted escort is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and consider you an intrusion. So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not use him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends. I know you will have to work your way to it. All the best. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising High Rahul, Why do you like someone's company? I fully agree with this sentence. I think first of all you concentrate more on your study. Best of luck for your HSC exam. Don't thinks negative. Now see how many reply come to you? These are all friends, so why are you worry? On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Rahul, Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in. All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it through action and performance. How? Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions for a little time. Why do you like someone's company? Are you getting some answers? It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality, talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and rendering help. Cheerful smile and sense of humor attract embrace from people. You must be possessing many of above mentioned qualities. Capitalize on it. People will not come to you unless they believe that you add value to their lives in any which way. To be specific, try to normalize your life style as much as you can with your mainstream peers. You should
Re: [AI] Socialising
If you want someone to help you to write what is tought in the class then there are two opptions. 1. Tell the teacher to write in your note book or tell her to tell someone to write for you . 2. By a digital recorder or a angel voice recorder. It will be useful. RGDS, Phen Varghese On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem is that I study way too much :P Studies can only take you so far in life. Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament. So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and beside the point. Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted escort is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and consider you an intrusion. So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not use him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends. I know you will have to work your way to it. All the best. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising High Rahul, Why do you like someone's company? I fully agree with this sentence. I think first of all you concentrate more on your study. Best of luck for your HSC exam. Don't thinks negative. Now see how many reply come to you? These are all friends, so why are you worry? On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Rahul, Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in. All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it through action and performance. How? Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions for a little time. Why do you like someone's company? Are you getting some answers? It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality, talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and rendering
Re: [AI] doubt about talks and c5
In case of internet also its very nice. I am always browsing the internet and managing my google group from phone only. Join my group http://groups.google.com/group/keyboardusers?hl=en-Original message- From: Mujtaba Merchant Sent: 01/12/2011, 3:37 pm To: Access India Subject: Re: [AI] doubt about talks and c5 Hello Priyesh, The Nokia C5 is a good buy for the usability and pricing with talks software. I have the same phone with me and it works great on messaging and calls. I do not use the internet on the phone, so I cannot comment on the performance on that. I bought this phone from Bangalore and it costed me 8,000 with the talks licenced software it was on a scheme buy, otherwise you pay an additional of 5,000 just for talks, I am given to believe that the phone costs around 6,500 or closer. I suggest you contact someone that can give you the phone on the scheme, that way you do not have to install the softwaere seprately. Mujtaba Merchant Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] doubt about n v d a
I don't know whether it works for you or not. Try the insert+s combination and see what happens. Or ctrl+insert+s for selecting the synthesizer of your choice. Regards. On 12/1/11, Silpa Mallipeddi mallipeddi.si...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All: I installed the latest version of NVDA, NVDA 2011.3, but not hearing the voice of NVDA. I am only hearing the beep sound when a page loads. I tried a couple of times uninstalling and installing it, but the same results. Thanks and regards, Silpa. On 11/26/11, RAJ VASWANI mr.rajvasw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Piush, You can go to preferences submenu from there choose voice settings. Now press tap until you hear rate and do adjust it accordingly. Hope it helps. - Original Message - From: Priyesh.C.U priyesh...@gmail.com Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:08 PM Subject: [AI] doubt about n v d a friends, i have reasonly got n v d a. while using it as the screen reader on the system its default speed is very high and difficult to follow. hence i would like to decrease its reading speed, for this please let me know the key command for the purpose. looking forwardto your kind help. . With best regards, Priyesh.C.U, Assistant Professor, Department of Politics, Koyilandy Government College, Kozhikode District, Kerala. Mobile: 09846141225 Email I D: priyesh...@gmail.com Skype I D: priyesh.cu Follow me on Twitter: priyeshcu Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- కాకర్ల నాగేశ్వరయ్య Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Socialising
Hi Rahul, Since you are 10+, fortaking notes, I think, I would suggest you to get a net book, very easy to carry and you can take every notes on your own. Perhaps, you can request your teacher to read along while she /he are writing on the board. My teachers used to do that for me. Hope this helps. All the best. -Srinivasu -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:50 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising If you want someone to help you to write what is tought in the class then there are two opptions. 1. Tell the teacher to write in your note book or tell her to tell someone to write for you . 2. By a digital recorder or a angel voice recorder. It will be useful. RGDS, Phen Varghese On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem is that I study way too much :P Studies can only take you so far in life. Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament. So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and beside the point. Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted escort is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and consider you an intrusion. So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not use him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends. I know you will have to work your way to it. All the best. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising High Rahul, Why do you like someone's company? I fully agree with this sentence. I think first of all you concentrate more on your study. Best of luck for your HSC exam. Don't thinks negative. Now see how many reply come to you? These are all friends, so why are you worry? On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Rahul, Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in. All brilliant points except one
Re: [AI] Socialising
Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes? Or record them? Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the blackboard, right? We have to press for it as it is the reasonable accommodation in education for blind... Anyway, all through my educational career, I hardly found notes given by teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced madams did do it on their own... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem is that I study way too much :P Studies can only take you so far in life. Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament. So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and beside the point. Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted escort is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and consider you an intrusion. So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not use him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends. I know you will have to work your way to it. All the best. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising High Rahul, Why do you like someone's company? I fully agree with this sentence. I think first of all you concentrate more on your study. Best of luck for your HSC exam. Don't thinks negative. Now see how many reply come to you? These are all friends, so why are you worry? On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Rahul, Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in. All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your friends to
[AI] FW: November 2011 - CBR Forum - E- News Bulletin
From: Mahesh Chandrasekar [mailto:advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: November 2011 - CBR Forum - E- News Bulletin CBR Forum E-News Bulletin - A Compilation of News, Information and Updates November 2011 - CBR Forum - E- News Bulletin First issue: Oct 2007, Current Issue No. #51 Networking, Advocacy and Lobbying - in promoting the rights of persons with disabilities and enhance the potential to exercise these rights. Compiled by: Mary Battihun and C. Mahesh advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.commailto:advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com A: INDIA A1: ACTS/ POLICY/ PROGRAMMES International Day of Persons with Disabilities, 3 December 2011 Theme for 2011: Together for a better world for all: Including persons with disabilities in development http://www.un.org/disabilities/default.asp?id=1561 1,500 scholarships for disabled NEW DELHI: The National Handicapped Finance and Development Corporation (NHFDC) announced 1,500 scholarships for persons with disabilities on Saturday. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/1500-scholarships-for-disabled/articleshow/10798436.cms Disability certificate to eligible persons within 3 days: Govt. Shimla, Nov 7 (PTI) Disability certificates would be issued to eligible persons within three days of applying and any deliberate delay in doing so would attract action, Social Justice and Empowerment Minister Sarveen Chowdhary today said. http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/wire-news/disability-certificate-to-eligible-persons-within-3-days-govt_612785.html Government lines up scholarship for children of disabled BERHAMPUR: The state government will provide a monthly scholarship of Rs. 350 to the children of disabled persons, whose annual family income is below Rs 50,000. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhubaneswar/Govt-lines-up-scholarship-for-children-of-disabled/articleshow/10603214.cms Include learning disabilities in Disability Act, say docs While the Right to Education (RTE) provides for the rights of those with disabilities, the Disability Act itself does not cover people with learning disability. http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Include-learning-disabilities-in-Disability-Act-say-docs/Article1-772305.aspx Aadhaar centers to get disabled-friendly To facilitate people with disabilities in enrolling for Aadhaar - the Unique Identification Number (UID) - the Delhi government has set up special enrollment camps with the help of Unique Identification Authority of India. http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Aadhaar-centres-to-get-disabled-friendly/Article1-769766.aspx Enumeration of disabled kids begins MYSORE: Enumeration of physically challenged children began in Mysore from Tuesday as part of Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan. The two-day census is looking for special kids between 3 and 16 years of age. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mysore/Enumeration-of-disabled-kids-begins/articleshow/10755510.cms Scheme to detect hearing disabilities among tots KOCHI: The Child Care Centre in Kochi has launched a scheme, 'Swaram', aimed at universal newborn screening to detect and provide medical aid to newborns with hearing disabilities. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/scheme-to-detect-hearing-disabilities-among-tots/202417-60-122.html Disability assistance discontinued in Punjab in more than 12% cases CHANDIGARH: A survey done to assess effectiveness of government schemes in Punjab has discovered that assistance was stopped in case of 12.5% of those surveyed in rural areas due to 'some bureaucratic reasons. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Disability-assistance-discontinued-in-Punjab-in-more-than-12-cases/articleshow/10575503.cms Census disproves Kasargods high disability myth KASARGOD: Here is good news for the people of Kasargod who are supposed to suffer from various diseases. The widespread propaganda that the district is hit by various diseases now stands exposed by the first report on disability which was published as per the Census of the government of India, 2001. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/census-disproves-kasargods-high-disability-myth/206028-60-116.html A2: VERDICT Need interpreters for hearing impaired at public places: HC A Delhi High Court order is likely to make life easier for the speech and hearing impaired. Public places like railway stations, airports, bus depots, hospitals, police stations, educational institutions and government offices may soon have sign language interpreters to facilitate basic communication for the speech and hearing impaired. http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/need-interpreters-for-hearing-impaired-at-public-places-hc/880608/Miss HC issues notice to UPSC over quota for disabled in IAS Mumbai, Nov 22 (PTI) the Bombay High Court today issued a notice to the Union Public Service Commission over a PIL which has sought three per cent quota for the disabled in the Indian Administrative Service (IAS).
Re: [AI] Socialising
Rahul, Now, this is something serious. Are you saying your sighted guide sits with you in the class and takes down the notes? This is not good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point of view. You write your mails without any mistakes. So, as others advised, Use portable devices for your academics. Once you take a laptop with Jaws installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be getting. On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes? Or record them? Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the blackboard, right? We have to press for it as it is the reasonable accommodation in education for blind... Anyway, all through my educational career, I hardly found notes given by teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced madams did do it on their own... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem is that I study way too much :P Studies can only take you so far in life. Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament. So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and beside the point. Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted escort is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and consider you an intrusion. So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not use him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends. I know you will have to work your way to it. All the best. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising High Rahul, Why do you like someone's company? I fully agree with this sentence. I think first of all you
[AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP
Hi list members, Does anybody have any experience with Ayurvedic treatment for retaining or enhancing sight, specially, persons suffering with Retinius Pigmentosa? I was recently prompted by my eye pain in which I do have light perception to look for at least a preserving sight treatment. A friend of mine suggested an Ayurvedic center in Kerala. If i am right then some name like “Sreedharayam.” Pl. guide me on the matter. Attention, specially people who have gone through the treatment. Any useful info is appreciated. Regards -- “The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention, but it is the current beneath the water that determines your direction.” Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP
hi , yes i visited there for 3 times and the name is shreedheriyam . it is located in kothatukulam near arnakulam . it is the best ayurvedic treatment centre . it gives best results . the treatment of this hospital has restored vision of many patients suffering from retinal pigmentosa . it gives excellent treatment . you can also visit this link http://www.sreedhareeyam.com/mainhospital.html this hospital is full facillited if you want more information then feel free to contact me . my skype id : maitreya.shah1 and my mobile number : 8690943237 THANKS , MAITREYA GIVE ME A CHANCE TO STAND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH!! - Original Message - From: ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:51 PM Subject: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP Hi list members, Does anybody have any experience with Ayurvedic treatment for retaining or enhancing sight, specially, persons suffering with Retinius Pigmentosa? I was recently prompted by my eye pain in which I do have light perception to look for at least a preserving sight treatment. A friend of mine suggested an Ayurvedic center in Kerala. If i am right then some name like “Sreedharayam.” Pl. guide me on the matter. Attention, specially people who have gone through the treatment. Any useful info is appreciated. Regards -- “The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention, but it is the current beneath the water that determines your direction.” Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Re shouldn't it be done ??
you are right sir but , we have not got any replies from this list . isn't this a essential topic to be studied ?? why noone is taking intrest in this topic? are all satisfied with the oppertunaties given to handicapped persons ?? if you are reading this mail , then please share your opinion and bring this topic forward for betterment of handicapped people THANKS , MAITREYA GIVE ME A CHANCE TO STAND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH!! - Original Message - From: Bhavesh Shah shah.bhaves...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:40 PM Subject: [AI] Re shouldn't it be done ?? Yes maitreya shah, This is something very important issue of the society. I believe that physically challenged citizen of our country should have many privileges to enjoy. I believe their should be a portfolio in the cabinet ministry in the central as well as state government. A minister should be appointed for the weaker section of the society including physically challenged citizen. Even in every year budget some amount should be allocated to this cabinet ministry which can be utilized for physically challenged people especially from interior part of the country as well as rural area. I believe due to latest technology of computer, internet screen reading software visually challenged people have become more efficient skilful. There are many sectors such as public as well as private educational field. Certain number of seats should be reserved for VI. I believe blindness is no longer challenging. Lot of work is required to be done for social as well as economic awareness how much VI are equipped to stand confidently in the society to make valuable contribution in the country's economy. Here I also have one question what provision is made for employment of visually challenged? Any one can reply to this. Thanks, Bhavesh Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Socialising
Vamshi Sir, No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does sit at another place in the class to take notes for me. However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop or something similar are actually quite executable. In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those lines after completing 12th. Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college. I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes. But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these things, is my attitude. I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by asking that person to help me. The only good thing is that I can at least openly say that these are the problems that I have. On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Rahul, Now, this is something serious. Are you saying your sighted guide sits with you in the class and takes down the notes? This is not good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point of view. You write your mails without any mistakes. So, as others advised, Use portable devices for your academics. Once you take a laptop with Jaws installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be getting. On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes? Or record them? Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the blackboard, right? We have to press for it as it is the reasonable accommodation in education for blind... Anyway, all through my educational career, I hardly found notes given by teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced madams did do it on their own... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem is that I study way too much :P Studies can only take you so far in life. Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament. So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic
Re: [AI] Does talks support fm radio in nokia C5
hello please select radio. then unmute talks and then pres the center button to open the fm radio. - Original Message - From: Bhavesh Shah shah.bhaves...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:47 PM Subject: [AI] Does talks support fm radio in nokia C5 I'm facing problem to play FM radio in nokia C5 with the help of talks. I can't play FM while talks is enable. Talks is required to be disabled to play FM radio? or reply how to set up. Thanks Bhavesh Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Socialising
Many people feel like you do. But if you don't ask for help when required then it may be considered as attitude or ego by others who may be willing to help. Be frank and friendly to people and they would offer to help willingly. Don't consider yourself isolated or different from others - that's what causes the communication gap and an unfriendly environment. The use of laptop or netbook or a QWERT phone is a brilliant step to make yourself independent for notes taking. You can record the lecture with their permission and take down notes simultaneously. My nephew Hozefa (he is an AI member too) does it successfully using his netbook in his college and coaching class. On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Vamshi Sir, No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does sit at another place in the class to take notes for me. However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop or something similar are actually quite executable. In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those lines after completing 12th. Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college. I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes. But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these things, is my attitude. I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by asking that person to help me. The only good thing is that I can at least openly say that these are the problems that I have. On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Rahul, Now, this is something serious. Are you saying your sighted guide sits with you in the class and takes down the notes? This is not good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point of view. You write your mails without any mistakes. So, as others advised, Use portable devices for your academics. Once you take a laptop with Jaws installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be getting. On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes? Or record them? Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the blackboard, right? We have to press for it as it is the reasonable accommodation in education for blind... Anyway, all through my educational career, I hardly found notes given by teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced madams did do it on their own... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with
Re: [AI] (no subject)
It is a very trickey subject and we cannot impose a blancket piracy on it for the following reasons. Some owners creating PDF files in India don't give a dam about accesibility and in that context breaking the password is the only way of accessing it. It's like scanning a copy righted material. But if a file is password protected for privacy reasons, then that's a hole another issue. There are two types of documents that we can distinguish here. Some documents are simply secured, but text is visible on the PDF viewer. It's done in order to avoid modifications. In that situation, there is nothing wrong in bypassing password protection for accesibility. However some documents like Pay stuff can't be opened even with pdf viewer without the password and the text will not be visible. So in that situation it is unlawful to break the password. Again if you are the sole owner of that file and the creater of the PDF do not consider your accesibility, then he/she can and should be challenged under accesibility. Vetri. On 01/12/2011, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote: Then you should speak few words concerning the restricted PDF files. due to accessibility issue security restriction has to be removed according to somebody. is it OK if we modify the owner's content for the sake of accessibility? - Original Message - From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:11 PM Subject: [AI] (no subject) Hello I am indeed following this thread closely. I shall intervene when situation warrents it, not otherwise. Harish Kotian Moderator. From: Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Help Required on Opening Secured PDF File I don't no why moderator sits silently in such case. only he opposes when the cracs are discussed. if moderator is unaware of such things, then why do we require such rules and conducts? Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] A Reader for the Visually Impaired
Dear Friends, Greetings! I came across this very interesting information in the recent CBR Newsletter which I am pasting below. Could anyone throw some light on it? A reader for the visually impaired The Central Scientific Instruments Organization (CSIO), Chandigarh, has designed a reading machine for the visually impaired that will help them read books, letters, magazines and other documents that are not in Braille without the help of a third person. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/A-reader-for-the-visually-impaired/874927/ With best wishes, Dr. A.Rambabu Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Confusion regarding scribe’s qualification in CWE,IBPS
Hi shiv kumar! Please practise to write your reply on the top of the original mail. Otherwise, we may miss it. - Original Message - From: shiv kashimpuria shivkumar1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [AI]Confusion regarding scribe’s qualification in CWE,IBPS On 12/1/11, bijal patel bijalpatel...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, I am going to attend CWE in iBPS on 11th of DEC. I have completed post graduation and B.Ed. Question regarding scribe: .what should be scribe’s qualification?One grade Below according to my educational qualification or below 12th standard? I am more confused, so please, solve my query as early as possible. Thanks. Bijal. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Hello Bijal, It will be one grade lower than 12th standard. Regards Shiv Kumar Kolkata Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] problem sending free matter again
Colleagues: Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free matter for the blind rules had been changed. I had attempted to send a package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India. I had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune GPO. At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked. Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free matter policy had been revoked for five years. How then is it possible for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been changed? In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and policies. The only response I received was an informal one from someone who said they regularly receive materials at home under the free matter provision. Clearly, the Pune postal authorities are unequipped to read and interpret their own rules so someone else must do it for them. I am asking once again for either the actual publications where these rules are outlined or, at the very least, a web site where I may download them myself. Kanchan, Rajesh, someone from NAB? Someone else entirely? Where can the rules be obtained? And, how can I report this matter to the real authorities for resolution? Many thanks for all efforts, Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Socialising
Hi Rahul, I can say both of us are sailing in the same boat, except that I am sitting at the front end of the boat and you at the back end, i.e., I am slightly experienced than you. It's only recently that I've started asking help from others(sometimes strangers too) leaving the early inhibitions, and believe me, I'm finding it very useful. We feel we might be troubling others by asking help, but they will be happy to help us. And it's in this way that relationships develop. Second, I always feel acceptance of problem is the first step towards finding out solutions. Since you have taken the first step, you will find yourself in a more comfortable position in the very near future. Best On 12/1/11, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com wrote: Many people feel like you do. But if you don't ask for help when required then it may be considered as attitude or ego by others who may be willing to help. Be frank and friendly to people and they would offer to help willingly. Don't consider yourself isolated or different from others - that's what causes the communication gap and an unfriendly environment. The use of laptop or netbook or a QWERT phone is a brilliant step to make yourself independent for notes taking. You can record the lecture with their permission and take down notes simultaneously. My nephew Hozefa (he is an AI member too) does it successfully using his netbook in his college and coaching class. On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Vamshi Sir, No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does sit at another place in the class to take notes for me. However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop or something similar are actually quite executable. In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those lines after completing 12th. Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college. I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes. But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these things, is my attitude. I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by asking that person to help me. The only good thing is that I can at least openly say that these are the problems that I have. On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Rahul, Now, this is something serious. Are you saying your sighted guide sits with you in the class and takes down the notes? This is not good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point of view. You write your mails without any mistakes. So, as others advised, Use portable devices for your academics. Once you take a laptop with Jaws installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be getting. On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes? Or record them? Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the blackboard, right? We have to press for it as it is the reasonable accommodation in education for blind... Anyway, all through my educational career, I hardly found notes given by teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced madams did do it on their own... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re:
Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again
Hi mam! Please get in touch with eyeway helpdesk. They are having the exact cercular. Some months before, Pranay has posted the same on the list itself. Thanks Rohiet - Original Message - From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again Colleagues: Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free matter for the blind rules had been changed. I had attempted to send a package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India. I had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune GPO. At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked. Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free matter policy had been revoked for five years. How then is it possible for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been changed? In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and policies. The only response I received was an informal one from someone who said they regularly receive materials at home under the free matter provision. Clearly, the Pune postal authorities are unequipped to read and interpret their own rules so someone else must do it for them. I am asking once again for either the actual publications where these rules are outlined or, at the very least, a web site where I may download them myself. Kanchan, Rajesh, someone from NAB? Someone else entirely? Where can the rules be obtained? And, how can I report this matter to the real authorities for resolution? Many thanks for all efforts, Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP
Hi Ekinath, Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa. There is no scientific validity for any of these treatments. However some patients have reported some success with some of these treatments. But there is no reason for either success or failure of these medicines. I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment at Sredheriyam . Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of the disease. again, we don't know whether this is because of the treatment or due to the nature of the disease. For example, I couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year, and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated. Had I been treated by these medicines at my 10th year, I would have claimed that my vision has remained stable for 10 years, which has happened even without the treatment. I am not discouraging anyone from going to alternative forms of medicines. My only contention is that a treatment should be scientifically validated before being put to commercial use. Treatments like bionic eye, gene therapy, stem cell therapy are on the way and may be available in the near future, hopefully. We have waited for a long time, let's keep our cool for some more time. For more on retinal disorders, visit www.retinaindia.org Once you register under the join us page, you can send any medical queries you have to the e-mail ID doc...@retinaindia.org Medical team of Retina India will get back to you within a day or two. On 12/1/11, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote: hi , yes i visited there for 3 times and the name is shreedheriyam . it is located in kothatukulam near arnakulam . it is the best ayurvedic treatment centre . it gives best results . the treatment of this hospital has restored vision of many patients suffering from retinal pigmentosa . it gives excellent treatment . you can also visit this link http://www.sreedhareeyam.com/mainhospital.html this hospital is full facillited if you want more information then feel free to contact me . my skype id : maitreya.shah1 and my mobile number : 8690943237 THANKS , MAITREYA GIVE ME A CHANCE TO STAND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH!! - Original Message - From: ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:51 PM Subject: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP Hi list members, Does anybody have any experience with Ayurvedic treatment for retaining or enhancing sight, specially, persons suffering with Retinius Pigmentosa? I was recently prompted by my eye pain in which I do have light perception to look for at least a preserving sight treatment. A friend of mine suggested an Ayurvedic center in Kerala. If i am right then some name like “Sreedharayam.” Pl. guide me on the matter. Attention, specially people who have gone through the treatment. Any useful info is appreciated. Regards -- “The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention, but it is the current beneath the water that determines your direction.” Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again
Hi, Check this web page: http://www.indiapost.gov.in/MailProducts.html#8._Blind_Literature_Packet: Vetri. On 01/12/2011, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote: Hi mam! Please get in touch with eyeway helpdesk. They are having the exact cercular. Some months before, Pranay has posted the same on the list itself. Thanks Rohiet - Original Message - From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again Colleagues: Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free matter for the blind rules had been changed. I had attempted to send a package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India. I had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune GPO. At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked. Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free matter policy had been revoked for five years. How then is it possible for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been changed? In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and policies. The only response I received was an informal one from someone who said they regularly receive materials at home under the free matter provision. Clearly, the Pune postal authorities are unequipped to read and interpret their own rules so someone else must do it for them. I am asking once again for either the actual publications where these rules are outlined or, at the very least, a web site where I may download them myself. Kanchan, Rajesh, someone from NAB? Someone else entirely? Where can the rules be obtained? And, how can I report this matter to the real authorities for resolution? Many thanks for all efforts, Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP
Hai friend, I am residing near the Sreedhariyam hospital. I am a victim of RP. For the last 9 years, I am away from print medium. I had undergone a treatment for 6 months under the chief doctor of the above said hospital Dr.NPP Namboothiri. Before that from 92 to 96 I was taking homeo medicine and my vision was stable thereafter. The main problem i faced at that time was my night blindness. In 98 I was taken to Dr. Namboothiri by one of my distant relative. After the six month treatment my vision during the day time started decreasing and I was asked to take a course of treatment as an inpatient of the hospital. Mean while I met a person Sunny George from panakkapalam near Pala in Kottayam district of Kerala. When he started treatment he had only one problem and it was the difficulty he felt when light from an approaching vehicle fall in to his eyes. He was a driver in KSRTC. After the treatment doctor assured him that his vision will not deteriorate and that he can undertake any job which he could do in good light condition. He joined in Maruthi service center in Delhi and was dispelled from the center after one and a half year as he was not able to see nut and bolt! Hearing this experience I decided to stop the treatment. Later in 2001 I underwent a treatment in another hospital near Thodupuzha in Kerala and I gained verymuch in my vision. But after completing the first course of treatment late in the year a lost my ability to read text. Then I again turned to Homeopathic treatment and vision is not deteriorating thereafter. For the last 9 years my vision is 2/60. I know about 10 persons who underwent treatment in Sreedhariyam and about 20 persons who underwent treatment in the hospital near Thodupuzha. None of them has gained distinguishable visual acuity and had some improvement only in associated problems like head ache and so on. I haven’t met a single person who have considerable vision improvement. Some experiences were given by the hospital through print media. I don’t find it reliable. This sharing is not to hurt any one but to show my anger against the exploitation of hospitals under the name “Ayurveda”. I don’t like to say about the cost of treatment in these hospitals. Sorry for this long mail. I just wanted to give a clear picture of the situation as I experienced and knew. Now it is up to you to decide. My comment is only about treatment of cronic situations RP and the diseases associated with nervous disorders. Even in the treatmet of congenital cateract, I have found this hospital, a failure. With regards Jaison Bellarmine. On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ekinath, Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa. There is no scientific validity for any of these treatments. However some patients have reported some success with some of these treatments. But there is no reason for either success or failure of these medicines. I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment at Sredheriyam . Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of the disease. again, we don't know whether this is because of the treatment or due to the nature of the disease. For example, I couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year, and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated. Had I been treated by these medicines at my 10th year, I would have claimed that my vision has remained stable for 10 years, which has happened even without the treatment. I am not discouraging anyone from going to alternative forms of medicines. My only contention is that a treatment should be scientifically validated before being put to commercial use. Treatments like bionic eye, gene therapy, stem cell therapy are on the way and may be available in the near future, hopefully. We have waited for a long time, let's keep our cool for some more time. For more on retinal disorders, visit www.retinaindia.org Once you register under the join us page, you can send any medical queries you have to the e-mail ID doc...@retinaindia.org Medical team of Retina India will get back to you within a day or two. On 12/1/11, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote: hi , yes i visited there for 3 times and the name is shreedheriyam . it is located in kothatukulam near arnakulam . it is the best ayurvedic treatment centre . it gives best results . the treatment of this hospital has restored vision of many patients suffering from retinal pigmentosa . it gives excellent treatment . you can also visit this link http://www.sreedhareeyam.com/mainhospital.html this hospital is full facillited if you want more information then feel free to contact me . my skype id : maitreya.shah1 and my mobile number : 8690943237 THANKS , MAITREYA GIVE ME A CHANCE TO STAND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH!! - Original
Re: [AI] Socialising
even I am totally agree with you Vamshi sir when I used to be in school I have told you earlier that I was 0 in mobility but now I have started to seek help from others and I feel so much contented with my self when I reach to a place without a fix escort it is a boost to our confidence regards On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rahul, I can say both of us are sailing in the same boat, except that I am sitting at the front end of the boat and you at the back end, i.e., I am slightly experienced than you. It's only recently that I've started asking help from others(sometimes strangers too) leaving the early inhibitions, and believe me, I'm finding it very useful. We feel we might be troubling others by asking help, but they will be happy to help us. And it's in this way that relationships develop. Second, I always feel acceptance of problem is the first step towards finding out solutions. Since you have taken the first step, you will find yourself in a more comfortable position in the very near future. Best On 12/1/11, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com wrote: Many people feel like you do. But if you don't ask for help when required then it may be considered as attitude or ego by others who may be willing to help. Be frank and friendly to people and they would offer to help willingly. Don't consider yourself isolated or different from others - that's what causes the communication gap and an unfriendly environment. The use of laptop or netbook or a QWERT phone is a brilliant step to make yourself independent for notes taking. You can record the lecture with their permission and take down notes simultaneously. My nephew Hozefa (he is an AI member too) does it successfully using his netbook in his college and coaching class. On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Vamshi Sir, No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does sit at another place in the class to take notes for me. However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop or something similar are actually quite executable. In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those lines after completing 12th. Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college. I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes. But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these things, is my attitude. I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by asking that person to help me. The only good thing is that I can at least openly say that these are the problems that I have. On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Rahul, Now, this is something serious. Are you saying your sighted guide sits with you in the class and takes down the notes? This is not good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point of view. You write your mails without any mistakes. So, as others advised, Use portable devices for your academics. Once you take a laptop with Jaws installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be getting. On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes? Or record them? Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the blackboard, right? We have to press for it as it is the reasonable accommodation in education for blind... Anyway, all through my educational career, I hardly found notes given by teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced madams did do it on their own... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for
[AI] URL for Vikas Gupta's Lecture: exclusionary politics of the RTE act
Hi friends, as some of the list members requested we are sharing our study circle proceedings. Pasted below is the link for Vikas's lecture: http://www.sambhavana.org/sites/default/files/sambhavana-data/disability-colloquium-and-study-circle/Exclusionary%20Politics%20of%20the%20Right%20to%20Education%20ACT%20By%20Vikas%20Gupta%20%285th%20Nov%202011%29.mp3 -- Naresh Kumar Assistant Professor Department of History Kamala Nehru College (University of Delhi) Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
-- Forwarded message -- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem mailer-dae...@googlemail.com Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:40:11 + Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) To: naresh.rhy...@gmail.com Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: accessin...@accessindia.org Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable or not local (state 14). - Original message - MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.133.29 with SMTP id p29mr607767wei.70.1322779210344; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.8.164 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:40:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 04:10:10 +0530 Message-ID: CAD0dG3oZzTfG6T9CWx+SccSfnt_ZRAP9UDVSaBgUXF=y9c3...@mail.gmail.com Subject: Sambhavana's fourth annual conference From: Naresh Kumar naresh.rhy...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessin...@accessindia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Friends, to mark the celebration of World Disability Day Sambhavana cordially invites you for its fourth annual conference on December 3rd, 1 pm onwards at Delhi School of Social Work, Delhi University. The program chart is pasted below: SAMBHAVANA With DSSW cordially invites you To the fourth annual conference on– PRACTISING DISABILITY STUDIES IN INDIA: ISSUES AND PERSPECTIVES Date: December 3rd, 2011–World Disability Day Time: 1:00 p.m. onwards Venue: Auditorium, Delhi School of Social Work, North Campus (Near Maal Road), University of Delhi, Delhi-110007. 1:00-1:15 p.m.—Registration 1:15-1:30 p.m.—Welcome 1:30-1:50 p.m.—Key note Address: Prof. Tanmoy Bhattacharya, Centre for Advance Studies, Linguistics, University of Delhi. 1:50 p.m. —Panel I-Dignity and Justice 1:50-2:10—‘Deconstructing Indignity’, Kapil Kumar, Dept of Political Science, Delhi University 2:10-2:30—‘Disabled and Access to Justice’, Sanjay Jadhav, Assistant Professor, Law, Mumbai University. 2:30-2:40 p.m.—Discussant,Jagdish Chander, Associate Professor, Political Science, Hindu College, Delhi University. 2:40-3:00 p.m.—Open House Discussion. 3:00-3:15 p.m. —Tea. 3:15 p.m.—Panel II: Representation and Research 3:15-3:35 p.m.—‘Rashtravadi Hindi Sahitya aur Drishtihin Samudaya (Nationalist Hindi Literature and Visually Impaired Community)’ Mahendra Dhakad, Assistant Prof., Rajdhani College, Delhi University. 3:35-3:55 p.m.—‘Quality of Life for Stroke Survivors’, Anuradha Gupta, DSSW, Delhi University. 3:55-4:15 p.m.—‘Field work in Social Science Disability Research: Issues and Constraints’, P. Deepa, CPS, Jawaharlal Nehru University. 4:15-4:25 p.m.—Discussant:Dr. Renu Addlakha, Centre for Women Studies, New Delhi. 4:25-4:45 p.m.—Open House Discussion. 4:45 p.m.—Panel III: Disability and Education: Issues and Challenges 4:45-4:55 p.m.—Sambhavana’s advocacy initiatives for education: a report, Vikas Gupta, Assistant Prof. -- Naresh Kumar Assistant Professor Department of History Kamala Nehru College (University of Delhi) Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Two points need to be noted here: 1. The email address of accessindia was wrongly typed and so this mail delivery failure. 2. Better edit before forwarding. Do we need to know about the mail delivery failure due to a typo? On 12/2/11, Naresh Kumar naresh.rhy...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem mailer-dae...@googlemail.com Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:40:11 + Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) To: naresh.rhy...@gmail.com Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: accessin...@accessindia.org Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable or not local (state 14). - Original message - MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.133.29 with SMTP id p29mr607767wei.70.1322779210344; Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.8.164 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:40:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 04:10:10 +0530 Message-ID: CAD0dG3oZzTfG6T9CWx+SccSfnt_ZRAP9UDVSaBgUXF=y9c3...@mail.gmail.com Subject: Sambhavana's fourth annual conference From: Naresh Kumar naresh.rhy...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessin...@accessindia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Friends, to mark the celebration of World Disability Day Sambhavana cordially invites you for its fourth annual conference on December 3rd, 1 pm onwards at Delhi School of Social Work, Delhi University. The program chart is pasted below: SAMBHAVANA With DSSW cordially invites you To the fourth annual conference on– PRACTISING DISABILITY STUDIES IN INDIA: ISSUES AND PERSPECTIVES Date: December 3rd, 2011–World Disability Day Time: 1:00 p.m. onwards Venue: Auditorium, Delhi School of Social Work, North Campus (Near Maal Road), University of Delhi, Delhi-110007. 1:00-1:15 p.m.—Registration 1:15-1:30 p.m.—Welcome 1:30-1:50 p.m.—Key note Address: Prof. Tanmoy Bhattacharya, Centre for Advance Studies, Linguistics, University of Delhi. 1:50 p.m. —Panel I-Dignity and Justice 1:50-2:10—‘Deconstructing Indignity’, Kapil Kumar, Dept of Political Science, Delhi University 2:10-2:30—‘Disabled and Access to Justice’, Sanjay Jadhav, Assistant Professor, Law, Mumbai University. 2:30-2:40 p.m.—Discussant,Jagdish Chander, Associate Professor, Political Science, Hindu College, Delhi University. 2:40-3:00 p.m.—Open House Discussion. 3:00-3:15 p.m. —Tea. 3:15 p.m.—Panel II: Representation and Research 3:15-3:35 p.m.—‘Rashtravadi Hindi Sahitya aur Drishtihin Samudaya (Nationalist Hindi Literature and Visually Impaired Community)’ Mahendra Dhakad, Assistant Prof., Rajdhani College, Delhi University. 3:35-3:55 p.m.—‘Quality of Life for Stroke Survivors’, Anuradha Gupta, DSSW, Delhi University. 3:55-4:15 p.m.—‘Field work in Social Science Disability Research: Issues and Constraints’, P. Deepa, CPS, Jawaharlal Nehru University. 4:15-4:25 p.m.—Discussant:Dr. Renu Addlakha, Centre for Women Studies, New Delhi. 4:25-4:45 p.m.—Open House Discussion. 4:45 p.m.—Panel III: Disability and Education: Issues and Challenges 4:45-4:55 p.m.—Sambhavana’s advocacy initiatives for education: a report, Vikas Gupta, Assistant Prof. -- Naresh Kumar Assistant Professor Department of History Kamala Nehru College (University of Delhi) Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- కాకర్ల నాగేశ్వరయ్య Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] A Reader for the Visually Impaired
Yes, they have been doing it for the last five or six years. On 12/1/11, rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Friends, Greetings! I came across this very interesting information in the recent CBR Newsletter which I am pasting below. Could anyone throw some light on it? A reader for the visually impaired The Central Scientific Instruments Organization (CSIO), Chandigarh, has designed a reading machine for the visually impaired that will help them read books, letters, magazines and other documents that are not in Braille without the help of a third person. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/A-reader-for-the-visually-impaired/874927/ With best wishes, Dr. A.Rambabu Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- కాకర్ల నాగేశ్వరయ్య Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Socialising
Rahul, You should be taking your own notes. Try the netbooks from Saksham. Do you own the Plextalk player? If so, you can make audio only DAISY books on the fly by recording what the teacher says. This may be a good way to start. Look at people around you. Everyone requires help for something or another. As for asking the teacher for notes, forget it. They may share them with you but in an inaccessible format so your dependency increases. Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Exclusionary Politics of the RTE Act (Audio Lecture)
Dear Friends, Last month, an invitation was posted on this group by Naresh Kumar on behalf of Sambhavana Disability Coloquium and Study Circle for a talk on this topic to be delivered by myself. Many of you have shown interest to listen the video of this lecture. I am herewith copying the direct link of the same from the website of Sambhavana Organization. http://www.sambhavana.org/sites/default/files/sambhavana-data/disability-colloquium-and-study-circle/Exclusionary%20Politics%20of%20the%20Right%20to%20Education%20ACT%20By%20Vikas%20Gupta%20%285th%20Nov%202011%29.mp3 There is a lot that one can say about this act. I hope the learned readership of this group will give me its expert views. I have presented this lecture at many platforms; and in the light of their suggestions, I am trying to finalize it as part of my larger work on school education in India. -- Vikas Gupta Assistant Professor–University of Delhi; Joint Secretary–Sambhavana Organization; National Executive Member–All-India Forum for Right to Education (AIF-RTE); Office: Department of History, Faculty of Social Sciences, University of Delhi , Delhi 110007, India. Ph: +91-11-266659 (O.), +91-11-27662347 (R.) +91-9818193875 (M.) Email: vikas...@gmail.com Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again
it is still continued. here is the rule: Concession on Postage for blind literature Blind Literature packets are exempted from payment of postage (both inland and foreign) if sent by surface post. Air-mail charges are to be paid if packets are sent by air. According to the Rule 129 of the Post Office Guide, besides being exempted from the payment of postage, ' Blind Literature' packets are exempted from payment of (I) Registration fee (II) Fee for acknowledgement and (III) Fee for attested copy of the receipt. Rule 130 of the Post Office Guide defines the Contents and Conditions of posting of Blind Literature. According to this rule: Papers of any kind, periodicals and books printed in Braille or other special type for the use of the blind may be transmitted by post as 'Blind Literature' packets provided that they are posted in accordance with the below mentioned conditions. Plates bearing the characters of writing, sound records for the use of the blind, and discs, films, tapes and wires on which spoken message for the blind have been recorded, when sent by, or addressed to, an officially recognised institution for the blind, shall also be treated as 'Blind Literature'. (a) The packets shall consist only of articles specially impressed for the use of the blind, and shall not contain any communication either in writing or printed in ordinary type, except the title and table of contents of the book or periodical and any key to, or instruction for, the use of special type, or any enclosure except a level for the return of the packet. (b) The packet shall bear on the outside the inscription 'Literature for the Blind' and the written or printed name and address of the sender. (c) The packet shall be posted without a cover, or in a cover open at both ends, which can easily be removed for the purpose of examination. (d) No 'Blind Literature' packet may weigh more than 7 kg. (e) 'Blind Literature' packets are subject to the same limits of dimensions as printed papers. Rule 131 of the of the Post Office Guide defines the penalty for breach of condition: Should any of the conditions mentioned above be infringed, the packet (unless it is admissible as an ordinary packet) will be charged on delivery with letter or parcel postage, whichever may be less. The penalty for breach of the conditions in respect of foreign postage is specified under rule 307 of the of the Post Office Guide. It states that: 'Blind Literature' packets which contain any note or document having the character of actual and personal correspondence, or packets that do not allow easy examination of the contents, or which contain postage stamps, form of pre payment whether obliterated or not or paper representing any value, or which infringe any of the foregoing conditions will not be forwarded, but will be returned to the sender and will be charged in on delivery with letter or parcel postage at the internal postage rate whichever is applicable. If the sender wishes to report the article after complying with the necessary conditions, he may do so. It is permissible in such cases to use the original wrapper, but the use of a fresh wrapper is preferable and is recommended. - Original Message - From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again Colleagues: Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free matter for the blind rules had been changed. I had attempted to send a package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India. I had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune GPO. At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked. Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free matter policy had been revoked for five years. How then is it possible for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been changed? In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and policies. The only response I received was an informal one from someone who said they regularly receive materials at home under the free matter provision. Clearly, the Pune postal authorities are unequipped to read and interpret their own rules so someone else must do it for them. I am asking once again for either the actual publications where these rules are outlined or, at the very least, a web site where I may download them myself. Kanchan, Rajesh, someone from NAB? Someone else entirely? Where can the rules be obtained? And, how can I report this matter to the real
Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again
Bhawani: Thanks very much for the info. The most recent postal official claimed there was no more surface mail and therefore, the package could not be sent. Does anyone know anything about this claim? Many thanks for all help, Jean - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again it is still continued. here is the rule: Concession on Postage for blind literature Blind Literature packets are exempted from payment of postage (both inland and foreign) if sent by surface post. Air-mail charges are to be paid if packets are sent by air. According to the Rule 129 of the Post Office Guide, besides being exempted from the payment of postage, ' Blind Literature' packets are exempted from payment of (I) Registration fee (II) Fee for acknowledgement and (III) Fee for attested copy of the receipt. Rule 130 of the Post Office Guide defines the Contents and Conditions of posting of Blind Literature. According to this rule: Papers of any kind, periodicals and books printed in Braille or other special type for the use of the blind may be transmitted by post as 'Blind Literature' packets provided that they are posted in accordance with the below mentioned conditions. Plates bearing the characters of writing, sound records for the use of the blind, and discs, films, tapes and wires on which spoken message for the blind have been recorded, when sent by, or addressed to, an officially recognised institution for the blind, shall also be treated as 'Blind Literature'. (a) The packets shall consist only of articles specially impressed for the use of the blind, and shall not contain any communication either in writing or printed in ordinary type, except the title and table of contents of the book or periodical and any key to, or instruction for, the use of special type, or any enclosure except a level for the return of the packet. (b) The packet shall bear on the outside the inscription 'Literature for the Blind' and the written or printed name and address of the sender. (c) The packet shall be posted without a cover, or in a cover open at both ends, which can easily be removed for the purpose of examination. (d) No 'Blind Literature' packet may weigh more than 7 kg. (e) 'Blind Literature' packets are subject to the same limits of dimensions as printed papers. Rule 131 of the of the Post Office Guide defines the penalty for breach of condition: Should any of the conditions mentioned above be infringed, the packet (unless it is admissible as an ordinary packet) will be charged on delivery with letter or parcel postage, whichever may be less. The penalty for breach of the conditions in respect of foreign postage is specified under rule 307 of the of the Post Office Guide. It states that: 'Blind Literature' packets which contain any note or document having the character of actual and personal correspondence, or packets that do not allow easy examination of the contents, or which contain postage stamps, form of pre payment whether obliterated or not or paper representing any value, or which infringe any of the foregoing conditions will not be forwarded, but will be returned to the sender and will be charged in on delivery with letter or parcel postage at the internal postage rate whichever is applicable. If the sender wishes to report the article after complying with the necessary conditions, he may do so. It is permissible in such cases to use the original wrapper, but the use of a fresh wrapper is preferable and is recommended. - Original Message - From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again Colleagues: Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free matter for the blind rules had been changed. I had attempted to send a package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India. I had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune GPO. At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked. Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free matter policy had been revoked for five years. How then is it possible for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been changed? In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and policies. The only response I received was an informal one from someone who said they regularly
Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again
So the law is actually still on your side. Which does not necessarily mean that Some ignorant Indian officials will accept it. If they continue to turn a blind eye after you show the print out from the above web page, then my suggestion is to write to the head post office of your region. Please send the complain through registered post with acknowledgement card attached. Also if my memory is correct, the website that I posted before also has the link to register complains online. Vetri. On 01/12/2011, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: it is still continued. here is the rule: Concession on Postage for blind literature Blind Literature packets are exempted from payment of postage (both inland and foreign) if sent by surface post. Air-mail charges are to be paid if packets are sent by air. According to the Rule 129 of the Post Office Guide, besides being exempted from the payment of postage, ' Blind Literature' packets are exempted from payment of (I) Registration fee (II) Fee for acknowledgement and (III) Fee for attested copy of the receipt. Rule 130 of the Post Office Guide defines the Contents and Conditions of posting of Blind Literature. According to this rule: Papers of any kind, periodicals and books printed in Braille or other special type for the use of the blind may be transmitted by post as 'Blind Literature' packets provided that they are posted in accordance with the below mentioned conditions. Plates bearing the characters of writing, sound records for the use of the blind, and discs, films, tapes and wires on which spoken message for the blind have been recorded, when sent by, or addressed to, an officially recognised institution for the blind, shall also be treated as 'Blind Literature'. (a) The packets shall consist only of articles specially impressed for the use of the blind, and shall not contain any communication either in writing or printed in ordinary type, except the title and table of contents of the book or periodical and any key to, or instruction for, the use of special type, or any enclosure except a level for the return of the packet. (b) The packet shall bear on the outside the inscription 'Literature for the Blind' and the written or printed name and address of the sender. (c) The packet shall be posted without a cover, or in a cover open at both ends, which can easily be removed for the purpose of examination. (d) No 'Blind Literature' packet may weigh more than 7 kg. (e) 'Blind Literature' packets are subject to the same limits of dimensions as printed papers. Rule 131 of the of the Post Office Guide defines the penalty for breach of condition: Should any of the conditions mentioned above be infringed, the packet (unless it is admissible as an ordinary packet) will be charged on delivery with letter or parcel postage, whichever may be less. The penalty for breach of the conditions in respect of foreign postage is specified under rule 307 of the of the Post Office Guide. It states that: 'Blind Literature' packets which contain any note or document having the character of actual and personal correspondence, or packets that do not allow easy examination of the contents, or which contain postage stamps, form of pre payment whether obliterated or not or paper representing any value, or which infringe any of the foregoing conditions will not be forwarded, but will be returned to the sender and will be charged in on delivery with letter or parcel postage at the internal postage rate whichever is applicable. If the sender wishes to report the article after complying with the necessary conditions, he may do so. It is permissible in such cases to use the original wrapper, but the use of a fresh wrapper is preferable and is recommended. - Original Message - From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again Colleagues: Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free matter for the blind rules had been changed. I had attempted to send a package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India. I had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune GPO. At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked. Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free matter policy had been revoked for five years. How then is it possible for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been changed? In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and policies.
Re: [AI] (no subject)
There are some people on this list who themselves would use everything pirated and cracked and keep hunting for it because they can never afford to buy the licensed stuff but the irony is, they pretend as if they cannot bear even to hear or read such word let alone using it.why, because they don't have much else at hand to do? Such bloody hypocretes should not be on this list in the first place. Preach what you practise. I'm myself against piracy but i'm also aware of the ground reality. On 12/1/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote: It is a very trickey subject and we cannot impose a blancket piracy on it for the following reasons. Some owners creating PDF files in India don't give a dam about accesibility and in that context breaking the password is the only way of accessing it. It's like scanning a copy righted material. But if a file is password protected for privacy reasons, then that's a hole another issue. There are two types of documents that we can distinguish here. Some documents are simply secured, but text is visible on the PDF viewer. It's done in order to avoid modifications. In that situation, there is nothing wrong in bypassing password protection for accesibility. However some documents like Pay stuff can't be opened even with pdf viewer without the password and the text will not be visible. So in that situation it is unlawful to break the password. Again if you are the sole owner of that file and the creater of the PDF do not consider your accesibility, then he/she can and should be challenged under accesibility. Vetri. On 01/12/2011, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote: Then you should speak few words concerning the restricted PDF files. due to accessibility issue security restriction has to be removed according to somebody. is it OK if we modify the owner's content for the sake of accessibility? - Original Message - From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:11 PM Subject: [AI] (no subject) Hello I am indeed following this thread closely. I shall intervene when situation warrents it, not otherwise. Harish Kotian Moderator. From: Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Help Required on Opening Secured PDF File I don't no why moderator sits silently in such case. only he opposes when the cracs are discussed. if moderator is unaware of such things, then why do we require such rules and conducts? Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Socialising
Rahul, get rid of him immediately. Dont even wait for next February or March. You have heard from everyone and you agree so take theplunge. Dont waste time. Kanchan Pamnani Advocate Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Vamshi Sir, No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does sit at another place in the class to take notes for me. However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop or something similar are actually quite executable. In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those lines after completing 12th. Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college. I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes. But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these things, is my attitude. I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by asking that person to help me. The only good thing is that I can at least openly say that these are the problems that I have. On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Rahul, Now, this is something serious. Are you saying your sighted guide sits with you in the class and takes down the notes? This is not good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point of view. You write your mails without any mistakes. So, as others advised, Use portable devices for your academics. Once you take a laptop with Jaws installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be getting. On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes? Or record them? Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the blackboard, right? We have to press for it as it is the reasonable accommodation in education for blind... Anyway, all through my educational career, I hardly found notes given by teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced madams did do it on their own... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote: Ravindra Sir, I really appreciate your suggestions. However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on socialising at the cost of my studies. In fact, my parents and others who
Re: [AI] Socialising
Rahul I don't have any special recorder but I use my phone to record lectures On 12/1/11, Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote: Rahul, get rid of him immediately. Dont even wait for next February or March. You have heard from everyone and you agree so take theplunge. Dont waste time. Kanchan Pamnani Advocate Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Vamshi Sir, No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does sit at another place in the class to take notes for me. However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop or something similar are actually quite executable. In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those lines after completing 12th. Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college. I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes. But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these things, is my attitude. I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by asking that person to help me. The only good thing is that I can at least openly say that these are the problems that I have. On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Rahul, Now, this is something serious. Are you saying your sighted guide sits with you in the class and takes down the notes? This is not good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point of view. You write your mails without any mistakes. So, as others advised, Use portable devices for your academics. Once you take a laptop with Jaws installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be getting. On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes? Or record them? Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the blackboard, right? We have to press for it as it is the reasonable accommodation in education for blind... Anyway, all through my educational career, I hardly found notes given by teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced madams did do it on their own... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul
Re: [AI] Socialising
Well, about asking for help I would say: Everybody does it and we because are disabled, may ask for more at times. There is no guilt in it. Only thing is that our major life activities should not be totally dependent on such help, which more often than not become so dependent that we fail to live our life as we would like to live. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:07 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Vamshi Sir, No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does sit at another place in the class to take notes for me. However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop or something similar are actually quite executable. In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those lines after completing 12th. Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college. I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes. But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these things, is my attitude. I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by asking that person to help me. The only good thing is that I can at least openly say that these are the problems that I have. On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Rahul, Now, this is something serious. Are you saying your sighted guide sits with you in the class and takes down the notes? This is not good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point of view. You write your mails without any mistakes. So, as others advised, Use portable devices for your academics. Once you take a laptop with Jaws installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be getting. On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes? Or record them? Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the blackboard, right? We have to press for it as it is the reasonable accommodation in education for blind... Anyway, all through my educational career, I hardly found notes given by teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced madams did do it on their own... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Yeah, that is a good idea. Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th. Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only. A driver is more than enough. But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is taught in the class. On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Good Rahul. My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns. In your case, escort is available/affordable. But there are privacy concerns. However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate sighted escort. Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a big issue. Friends and people around are sufficient. So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort. Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for. I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising Rajesh Sir, I completely agree with you. In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort. It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider. Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where I and my friends were going to meet. I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait in the car till then. On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a different place. Am I doing enough? Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy? BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about desirability of escorts? :) On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj
[AI] book required.
dear accessindians i would like to get the soft copy of the book rights of persons with disabilities the indian law institute edited by s.k verma director , ili s.c srivastava research professor, ili. if you send the same i will be much thankful. krishnan m moothimoola. assistant professor political science law college calicut email: moothimo...@gmail.com ph: 09495547984. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Fw: News on Anandabazar Patrika on 2.12.11
--- On Fri, 2/12/11, Debojyoti Roy nip_...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Debojyoti Roy nip_...@yahoo.co.in Subject: News on Anandabazar Patrika on 2.12.11 To: debajyotiro...@gmail.com, ANITA ROY roy.aneet...@gmail.com Date: Friday, 2 December, 2011, 10:25 AM Please click on this link to view the news on Anandabazar Patrika on 2.12.11 about Paragliding for Differently Abled http://www.siligurionline.com/info/newspapers/anandabazar.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] 2,000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Source: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2679583.ece Bangalore, December 2, 2011 2,000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Staff Reporter Initiative to facilitate recruitment of one lakh such people in five years For inclusive growth: (From left) Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation; Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM; and Ajay Kela, president and CEO of Wadhwani Foundation, addressing presspersons in Bangalore on Thursday. For inclusive growth: (From left) Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation; Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM; and Ajay Kela, president and CEO of Wadhwani Foundation, addressing presspersons in Bangalore on Thursday. NASSCOM Foundation and the Wadhwani Foundation have come together with the aim of placing 2,000 young people with disabilities in IT and BPO companies across the country within the next two years. This will be the first step in their “accessibility initiative” to facilitate the recruitment of one lakh people with disabilities in the next five years, said Ajay Kela, president and CEO of Wadhwani Foundation. He added that the initiative was seen as a business value proposition and not as part of corporate social responsibility. Mr. Kela added that India had a talent pool of two to three million people with disabilities. Talent pool “Corporate India can derive better business value in terms of higher productivity, reduced attrition and lowered training costs by employing this proven and tenacious talent pool,” he said. The average employment rate of people with disabilities in the private sector is only 0.28 per and in the public sector it is 0.54 per cent, although the proportion of such people in the country exceeds 6 per cent. Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation, said that accessibility was not just about making the workplace physically accessible for a person in wheelchair; it is about creating an “inclusive ecosystem”. The Accessibility Initiative is founded on a four-fold approach: a leadership commitment, robust policies, capability building, and creating an enabling culture in the organisation. “The aim is to reach every level within an organisation from the top leadership to middle management to the average employee in order to bring about change in policy, change practices and a change in the behaviour and mindset of the average employee towards disability,” Ms. Soni said. Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM, said that the foundation approached the issue as a business imperative as well as a “rights-based” agenda. “We realised the importance of broadening the diversity agenda to include people with disabilities.” Comments to : web.thehi...@thehindu.co.in Copyright © 2011, The Hindu Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Gender discrimination haunts the visually challenged too
Source: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2679952.ece CHENNAI, December 2, 2011 Gender discrimination haunts the visually challenged too Vasudha Venugopal Usha Thiruvengadam, a trained Carnatic vocalist and violin player, has been searching for a job in government-run schools as a music teacher for the past five years. Her struggle for a job despite her disability has earned her a great deal of respect from many of her friends. They also note: “Her husband did not marry her for the assistance. He takes her everywhere.” For many other visually challenged women, trusting the spouse, siblings and society is getting increasingly difficult. “I get plenty of cases of women abandoned by their husbands. Even for many families, a visually challenged girl is a liability who needs to be married off as soon as possible. There is very little focus on education,” said N.S. Venkataraman, trustee, Nandini Voice for the Deprived, at a discussion recently. The cases of men leaving their wives gain more significance in the context of the State government's scheme under which Rs.20,000 is given to the person without any disability who marries a visually challenged person. “There are many broken marriages like that, which need to be looked into,” added Mr. Venkataraman. “Instead of allowance, one of them can be given job in government according to the merit. This will ensure that such marriages remain stable,” suggested a participant. It was pouring, but that did not deter the 22 women with visual disability from far-flung areas such as Avadi, Tiruvallur and Maduravoyal from making it to the meeting, which, as one of the participants described it, was one of the few where they get to speak about their problems. Banks, said most of the women, are where they faced many problems. “Nationalised banks have very considerate rules, but they are not being implemented,” said T. Meenakshi, a school teacher. “Bank managers insist that someone accompany us all the time,” she said. Availing oneself of loans for starting entrepreneurial activity is always a Herculean task, but even procuring an ATM card is difficult. Many banks have not installed mandatory talking ATMs and so they deny us the card facility, she said. “The situation worsens when the bank managers refuse to meet us and insist that we should talk to clerical staff, who, in turn, say that they do not have the necessary authority,” she added. “We do not want sympathy. We want only understanding and a place to live with dignity,” said the women. Denial of hostel rooms has increased travel time for many of these women. This has increased the possibility of instances of molestation. “Many women face it every day, in buses, on streets, but they do not talk about it because they are never heard,” said Mr. Venkataraman. “Even the Disability Advisory Committee has only male representatives. ,” said Parameswari, a student of Ethiraj College for Women. Shortage of Braille books in schools and colleges, reluctance of the private sector to employ persons with disability and need for procedural transparency in the filling of government jobs were highlighted by these women. “The announcements in railway and bus stations are made only a few minutes before the arrival or the departure of the train or bus. A guidance counter for visually challenged persons will be of great help,” said Ms.Parameswari. “It is the general lack of respect for us in the society that concerns us the most,” said Shyamala, a student of Quaid-E-Millath Government College for Women. After the debate, as the women waded through the flooded streets of Besant Nagar, gesturing at every passing car to stop, it was the indifference of those around that stood out the most. “Very few help, especially when we need it the most,” said Ms. Shyamala. Comments to : web.thehi...@thehindu.co.in Copyright © 2011, The Hindu Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP
Thanks very much for suggestions specially to Jaison, With Jaison's detailed sharing i think i should not invest my time in even visiting this place. However, how has been your experience with Homeopathy? Has it helped you to control deterioration or even has enhanced the sight? Attn Vamshi, Whats your view about it On 12/2/11, jaison bellarmine jaisonay...@gmail.com wrote: Hai friend, I am residing near the Sreedhariyam hospital. I am a victim of RP. For the last 9 years, I am away from print medium. I had undergone a treatment for 6 months under the chief doctor of the above said hospital Dr.NPP Namboothiri. Before that from 92 to 96 I was taking homeo medicine and my vision was stable thereafter. The main problem i faced at that time was my night blindness. In 98 I was taken to Dr. Namboothiri by one of my distant relative. After the six month treatment my vision during the day time started decreasing and I was asked to take a course of treatment as an inpatient of the hospital. Mean while I met a person Sunny George from panakkapalam near Pala in Kottayam district of Kerala. When he started treatment he had only one problem and it was the difficulty he felt when light from an approaching vehicle fall in to his eyes. He was a driver in KSRTC. After the treatment doctor assured him that his vision will not deteriorate and that he can undertake any job which he could do in good light condition. He joined in Maruthi service center in Delhi and was dispelled from the center after one and a half year as he was not able to see nut and bolt! Hearing this experience I decided to stop the treatment. Later in 2001 I underwent a treatment in another hospital near Thodupuzha in Kerala and I gained verymuch in my vision. But after completing the first course of treatment late in the year a lost my ability to read text. Then I again turned to Homeopathic treatment and vision is not deteriorating thereafter. For the last 9 years my vision is 2/60. I know about 10 persons who underwent treatment in Sreedhariyam and about 20 persons who underwent treatment in the hospital near Thodupuzha. None of them has gained distinguishable visual acuity and had some improvement only in associated problems like head ache and so on. I haven’t met a single person who have considerable vision improvement. Some experiences were given by the hospital through print media. I don’t find it reliable. This sharing is not to hurt any one but to show my anger against the exploitation of hospitals under the name “Ayurveda”. I don’t like to say about the cost of treatment in these hospitals. Sorry for this long mail. I just wanted to give a clear picture of the situation as I experienced and knew. Now it is up to you to decide. My comment is only about treatment of cronic situations RP and the diseases associated with nervous disorders. Even in the treatmet of congenital cateract, I have found this hospital, a failure. With regards Jaison Bellarmine. On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ekinath, Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa. There is no scientific validity for any of these treatments. However some patients have reported some success with some of these treatments. But there is no reason for either success or failure of these medicines. I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment at Sredheriyam . Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of the disease. again, we don't know whether this is because of the treatment or due to the nature of the disease. For example, I couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year, and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated. Had I been treated by these medicines at my 10th year, I would have claimed that my vision has remained stable for 10 years, which has happened even without the treatment. I am not discouraging anyone from going to alternative forms of medicines. My only contention is that a treatment should be scientifically validated before being put to commercial use. Treatments like bionic eye, gene therapy, stem cell therapy are on the way and may be available in the near future, hopefully. We have waited for a long time, let's keep our cool for some more time. For more on retinal disorders, visit www.retinaindia.org Once you register under the join us page, you can send any medical queries you have to the e-mail ID doc...@retinaindia.org Medical team of Retina India will get back to you within a day or two. On 12/1/11, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote: hi , yes i visited there for 3 times and the name is shreedheriyam . it is located in kothatukulam near arnakulam . it is the best ayurvedic treatment centre . it gives best results . the treatment of this hospital has restored
Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP
Dear friend, I had also gone through different treatments. I even had gone to USA to find some treatments. Not a single medication as been successful. There are many treatments but they have not been successful. Even I had gone to Sree Dharayam Koothatukulam. No use. I had partial sight till the age of 16 after that it started decreasing. Now I am totally blind. It is better to sit with out any treatment unless the medical science brings something which will be successful. Let us all pray to God for a better life. Till now he has given the ways to use the computer with different screen reading softwares. So let's thank God for all the things and the tallents which he has given to me and to you all. Let's keep on praying. With regards, Phen Varghese Skype ID:phen.varghese Email ID:phenvargh...@gmail.com Facebook id:phenvargh...@gmail.com On 12/2/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks very much for suggestions specially to Jaison, With Jaison's detailed sharing i think i should not invest my time in even visiting this place. However, how has been your experience with Homeopathy? Has it helped you to control deterioration or even has enhanced the sight? Attn Vamshi, Whats your view about it On 12/2/11, jaison bellarmine jaisonay...@gmail.com wrote: Hai friend, I am residing near the Sreedhariyam hospital. I am a victim of RP. For the last 9 years, I am away from print medium. I had undergone a treatment for 6 months under the chief doctor of the above said hospital Dr.NPP Namboothiri. Before that from 92 to 96 I was taking homeo medicine and my vision was stable thereafter. The main problem i faced at that time was my night blindness. In 98 I was taken to Dr. Namboothiri by one of my distant relative. After the six month treatment my vision during the day time started decreasing and I was asked to take a course of treatment as an inpatient of the hospital. Mean while I met a person Sunny George from panakkapalam near Pala in Kottayam district of Kerala. When he started treatment he had only one problem and it was the difficulty he felt when light from an approaching vehicle fall in to his eyes. He was a driver in KSRTC. After the treatment doctor assured him that his vision will not deteriorate and that he can undertake any job which he could do in good light condition. He joined in Maruthi service center in Delhi and was dispelled from the center after one and a half year as he was not able to see nut and bolt! Hearing this experience I decided to stop the treatment. Later in 2001 I underwent a treatment in another hospital near Thodupuzha in Kerala and I gained verymuch in my vision. But after completing the first course of treatment late in the year a lost my ability to read text. Then I again turned to Homeopathic treatment and vision is not deteriorating thereafter. For the last 9 years my vision is 2/60. I know about 10 persons who underwent treatment in Sreedhariyam and about 20 persons who underwent treatment in the hospital near Thodupuzha. None of them has gained distinguishable visual acuity and had some improvement only in associated problems like head ache and so on. I haven’t met a single person who have considerable vision improvement. Some experiences were given by the hospital through print media. I don’t find it reliable. This sharing is not to hurt any one but to show my anger against the exploitation of hospitals under the name “Ayurveda”. I don’t like to say about the cost of treatment in these hospitals. Sorry for this long mail. I just wanted to give a clear picture of the situation as I experienced and knew. Now it is up to you to decide. My comment is only about treatment of cronic situations RP and the diseases associated with nervous disorders. Even in the treatmet of congenital cateract, I have found this hospital, a failure. With regards Jaison Bellarmine. On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ekinath, Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa. There is no scientific validity for any of these treatments. However some patients have reported some success with some of these treatments. But there is no reason for either success or failure of these medicines. I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment at Sredheriyam . Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of the disease. again, we don't know whether this is because of the treatment or due to the nature of the disease. For example, I couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year, and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated. Had I been treated by these medicines at my 10th year, I would have claimed that my vision has remained stable for 10 years, which has happened even without the treatment. I am not discouraging anyone from
Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP
Hai friend, with regard to homeopathic I haven't gained any considerable vision. But I have just could remove some associated problems like head ache, flashes before the eyes, irritation when we try to focuss on an object, etc. Another effect is that I am not experiencing any decrease in my vision after starting the homeo treatment. But as Mr.Vamshi said, I am not sure whether it is the effect of the treatment or not. If you are going for homeo treatment make sure that the doctor is a trainned and able one. Because as in the case of Ayurveda there are many who uses homeopathi to exploit the people. Afew years back there was a person who claimed to be a homeo doctor and treated Asthma with steroids!!! So consult a recognised doctor in a recognised hospital. Go for doctors who has registration in national council of homeo pathic medicine. I don't remember the exact name of the council, The short form of the council is some thing like HIMS. With regards Jaison Bellarmine. On 12/2/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks very much for suggestions specially to Jaison, With Jaison's detailed sharing i think i should not invest my time in even visiting this place. However, how has been your experience with Homeopathy? Has it helped you to control deterioration or even has enhanced the sight? Attn Vamshi, Whats your view about it On 12/2/11, jaison bellarmine jaisonay...@gmail.com wrote: Hai friend, I am residing near the Sreedhariyam hospital. I am a victim of RP. For the last 9 years, I am away from print medium. I had undergone a treatment for 6 months under the chief doctor of the above said hospital Dr.NPP Namboothiri. Before that from 92 to 96 I was taking homeo medicine and my vision was stable thereafter. The main problem i faced at that time was my night blindness. In 98 I was taken to Dr. Namboothiri by one of my distant relative. After the six month treatment my vision during the day time started decreasing and I was asked to take a course of treatment as an inpatient of the hospital. Mean while I met a person Sunny George from panakkapalam near Pala in Kottayam district of Kerala. When he started treatment he had only one problem and it was the difficulty he felt when light from an approaching vehicle fall in to his eyes. He was a driver in KSRTC. After the treatment doctor assured him that his vision will not deteriorate and that he can undertake any job which he could do in good light condition. He joined in Maruthi service center in Delhi and was dispelled from the center after one and a half year as he was not able to see nut and bolt! Hearing this experience I decided to stop the treatment. Later in 2001 I underwent a treatment in another hospital near Thodupuzha in Kerala and I gained verymuch in my vision. But after completing the first course of treatment late in the year a lost my ability to read text. Then I again turned to Homeopathic treatment and vision is not deteriorating thereafter. For the last 9 years my vision is 2/60. I know about 10 persons who underwent treatment in Sreedhariyam and about 20 persons who underwent treatment in the hospital near Thodupuzha. None of them has gained distinguishable visual acuity and had some improvement only in associated problems like head ache and so on. I haven’t met a single person who have considerable vision improvement. Some experiences were given by the hospital through print media. I don’t find it reliable. This sharing is not to hurt any one but to show my anger against the exploitation of hospitals under the name “Ayurveda”. I don’t like to say about the cost of treatment in these hospitals. Sorry for this long mail. I just wanted to give a clear picture of the situation as I experienced and knew. Now it is up to you to decide. My comment is only about treatment of cronic situations RP and the diseases associated with nervous disorders. Even in the treatmet of congenital cateract, I have found this hospital, a failure. With regards Jaison Bellarmine. On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ekinath, Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa. There is no scientific validity for any of these treatments. However some patients have reported some success with some of these treatments. But there is no reason for either success or failure of these medicines. I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment at Sredheriyam . Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of the disease. again, we don't know whether this is because of the treatment or due to the nature of the disease. For example, I couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year, and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated. Had I been treated by these medicines at my 10th year, I would have claimed that
[AI] About Unis, Linux and Tantem.
Hello, One of our friends is working at Wipro. She has to work in Oracle in linux and unix environment. Does Orca support this type of situation? If not, what is the alternative for unix and particularly for oracle for linux and unix? She also needs to work on remote desktop. Jaws tandem support remode desktop operation. But it needs extra expense. Does NVDA support remode desktop? With best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Hello Renuka, Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a lot of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the potential of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or career opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I hope they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. Everyone gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after that?? Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. Mujtaba Merchant Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again
Hi, The REVISED FOREIGN SURFACE POSTAGE RATES APPLICABLE TO ALL FOREIGN COUNTRIES as given on their site still shows it as exempt from postage; though the revision date is not mentioned. Check http://www.indiapost.gov.in/Foreign_Postage_Rates.htm. The Postal guide which was shared on AccessIndia sometime ago was not by us, but as a reply to our query, Vikas Kapoor shared the link. It was part 1 of the postal guide. Part 1 of the Postal guide deals with Inland post, and part 2 deals with foreign post. Part 1 is available for download from their website in pdf format, but apparently part 2 is not there. Jean, try to quote the above link if you can talk to some higher official. May be take a print of the same to show it to them. Let us know if this helps, regards, Pranay Gadodia | Programme Manager Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource for living a fuller life with vision loss C/o Score Foundation, 17/107, Basement, Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4, New Delhi 110024, INDIA. Helpdesk:+91 - 11 - 460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm) Office Phone: +91 - 11 - 26472582/81 Email: pra...@eyeway.org Website: www.eyeway.org - Original Message - From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com To: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again Bhawani: Thanks very much for the info. The most recent postal official claimed there was no more surface mail and therefore, the package could not be sent. Does anyone know anything about this claim? Many thanks for all help, Jean - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again it is still continued. here is the rule: Concession on Postage for blind literature Blind Literature packets are exempted from payment of postage (both inland and foreign) if sent by surface post. Air-mail charges are to be paid if packets are sent by air. According to the Rule 129 of the Post Office Guide, besides being exempted from the payment of postage, ' Blind Literature' packets are exempted from payment of (I) Registration fee (II) Fee for acknowledgement and (III) Fee for attested copy of the receipt. Rule 130 of the Post Office Guide defines the Contents and Conditions of posting of Blind Literature. According to this rule: Papers of any kind, periodicals and books printed in Braille or other special type for the use of the blind may be transmitted by post as 'Blind Literature' packets provided that they are posted in accordance with the below mentioned conditions. Plates bearing the characters of writing, sound records for the use of the blind, and discs, films, tapes and wires on which spoken message for the blind have been recorded, when sent by, or addressed to, an officially recognised institution for the blind, shall also be treated as 'Blind Literature'. (a) The packets shall consist only of articles specially impressed for the use of the blind, and shall not contain any communication either in writing or printed in ordinary type, except the title and table of contents of the book or periodical and any key to, or instruction for, the use of special type, or any enclosure except a level for the return of the packet. (b) The packet shall bear on the outside the inscription 'Literature for the Blind' and the written or printed name and address of the sender. (c) The packet shall be posted without a cover, or in a cover open at both ends, which can easily be removed for the purpose of examination. (d) No 'Blind Literature' packet may weigh more than 7 kg. (e) 'Blind Literature' packets are subject to the same limits of dimensions as printed papers. Rule 131 of the of the Post Office Guide defines the penalty for breach of condition: Should any of the conditions mentioned above be infringed, the packet (unless it is admissible as an ordinary packet) will be charged on delivery with letter or parcel postage, whichever may be less. The penalty for breach of the conditions in respect of foreign postage is specified under rule 307 of the of the Post Office Guide. It states that: 'Blind Literature' packets which contain any note or document having the character of actual and personal correspondence, or packets that do not allow easy examination of the contents, or which contain postage stamps, form of pre payment whether obliterated or not or paper representing any value, or which infringe any of the foregoing conditions will not be forwarded, but will be returned to the sender and will be charged in on delivery with letter or parcel postage at the internal postage rate whichever is applicable. If the sender wishes to report the article after complying with the necessary