Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Ravindra Sir,

I really appreciate your suggestions.
However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
socialising at the cost of my studies.
 In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem
is that I study way too much :P
Studies can only take you so far in life.
Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament.
 So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and
 beside the point.

 Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about
 desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted escort
 is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and consider
 you an intrusion.
 So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not use
 him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends.
 I know you will have to work your way to it.
 All the best.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 High Rahul,
 Why do you like someone's company?
 I fully agree with this sentence.
 I think first of all you concentrate more on your study.
 Best of luck for your HSC exam.
 Don't thinks negative.
 Now see how many reply come to you?
 These are all friends, so why are you worry?



 On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Rahul,

  Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in.

 All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for
 discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done
 so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your
 friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it
 through action and performance.

 How?
 Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions
 for a little time. Why do you like someone's company?

 Are you getting some answers?
 It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality,
 talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and
 rendering help. Cheerful smile and sense of humor attract embrace from
 people.

 You must be possessing many of above mentioned qualities. Capitalize
 on it. People will not come to you unless they believe that you add
 value to their lives in any which way. To be specific, try to
 normalize your life style as much as you can with your mainstream
 peers.

 You should be at least partially independent in mobility to gain
 others confidence in you.
 How do you walk to your place after getting down from your car?
 Who picks up your bag and carry it?
 Does always your aid only find things for you before you extend your
 hands?

 Then time to thing and act my friend.

 Even though blessed with multiple difficulties, I have lived an
 excellent college life. And those joyous moments and friends are real
 treasures of my life. Therefore, make the most of it. That time never
 comes back.

 Finally, keep your head high exuberating brilliance, confidence and
 substance with a little smile and things will fall in place.

 Good luck
 Do call me on Sundays if need be. I would like to know about a girl you
 like.
 Joking. Haha!

 Pardon me if you didn't like any of the things mentioned above.

 ~Cheers






 On 11/27/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I hope you all are well.
 Like I've mentioned in my earlier posts, I'm 17 and am currently in 12th
 grade.
 I have quite a few sighted friends, but I've noticed that they hardly
 ever call me when they go for movies, have birthday parties or have
 get-togethers.
 I feel that my visual impairment is a major reason for this.
 We have appointed a sighted guide who goes with me everywhere.

 So, I often get depressed and frustrated when my friends don't call me.
 In fact, for me, this is the biggest challenge that I currently have
 to face due to my visual impairment.
 I can't even ask my friends if they don't call me because of my visual
 problem, because none of them will ever admit it.

 So, has anyone here faced this problem?
 Please share your views and suggestions.

 Cheers,
 Rahul


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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Rajesh Sir,

I completely agree with you.
In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort.

It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
I and my friends were going to meet.
I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
in the car till then.

On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
different place.

Am I doing enough?
Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy?

BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
desirability of escorts? :)





On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ravindra Sir,

 I really appreciate your suggestions.
 However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
 socialising at the cost of my studies.
  In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem
 is that I study way too much :P
 Studies can only take you so far in life.
 Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament.
 So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and
 beside the point.

 Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about
 desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted
 escort
 is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and
 consider
 you an intrusion.
 So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not
 use
 him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends.
 I know you will have to work your way to it.
 All the best.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra
 Jadhav
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 High Rahul,
 Why do you like someone's company?
 I fully agree with this sentence.
 I think first of all you concentrate more on your study.
 Best of luck for your HSC exam.
 Don't thinks negative.
 Now see how many reply come to you?
 These are all friends, so why are you worry?



 On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Rahul,

  Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in.

 All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for
 discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done
 so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your
 friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it
 through action and performance.

 How?
 Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions
 for a little time. Why do you like someone's company?

 Are you getting some answers?
 It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality,
 talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and
 rendering help. Cheerful smile and sense of humor attract embrace from
 people.

 You must be possessing many of above mentioned qualities. Capitalize
 on it. People will not come to you unless they believe that you add
 value to their lives in any which way. To be specific, try to
 normalize your life style as much as you can with your mainstream
 peers.

 You should be at least partially independent in mobility to gain
 others confidence in you.
 How do you walk to your place after getting down from your car?
 Who picks up your bag and carry it?
 Does always your aid only find things for you before you extend your
 hands?

 Then time to thing and act my friend.

 Even though blessed with multiple difficulties, I have lived an
 excellent college life. And those joyous moments and friends are real
 treasures of my life. Therefore, make the most of it. That time never
 comes back.

 Finally, keep your head high exuberating brilliance, confidence and
 substance with a little smile and things will fall in place.

 Good luck
 Do call me on Sundays if need be. I would like to know about a girl you
 like.
 Joking. Haha!

 Pardon me if you didn't like any of the things mentioned above.

 ~Cheers






 On 11/27/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I hope you all are well.
 Like I've mentioned in my earlier posts, I'm 17 and am currently in
 12th
 grade.
 I have quite a few sighted friends, but I've noticed that they hardly
 ever call me when they go for movies, have birthday parties or have
 get-togethers.
 I feel that my visual impairment is a major reason for this.
 We have appointed a sighted guide who goes with me everywhere.

 So, I often get depressed and frustrated when my friends don't 

Re: [AI] Confusion regarding scribe’s qualification in CWE,IBPS

2011-12-01 Thread shiv kashimpuria
On 12/1/11, bijal patel bijalpatel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I am going to attend CWE in iBPS on 11th of DEC. I have completed post
 graduation and B.Ed. Question regarding scribe:
 .what should be scribe’s qualification?One grade Below according to my
 educational qualification or below 12th standard?
 I am more confused, so please, solve my query as early as possible.
 Thanks.
 Bijal.


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Hello Bijal,

It will be one grade lower than 12th standard.

Regards

Shiv Kumar
Kolkata


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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Good Rahul.
My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort if 
the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns.
In your case, escort is available/affordable.
But there are privacy concerns.

However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate 
sighted escort.
Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a 
big issue.
Friends and people around are sufficient.

So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in 
your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

Rajesh Sir,

I completely agree with you.
In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an escort.

It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
I and my friends were going to meet.
I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
in the car till then.

On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
different place.

Am I doing enough?
Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of privacy?

BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
desirability of escorts? :)





On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ravindra Sir,

 I really appreciate your suggestions.
 However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
 socialising at the cost of my studies.
  In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem
 is that I study way too much :P
 Studies can only take you so far in life.
 Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament.
 So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and
 beside the point.

 Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about
 desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted
 escort
 is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and
 consider
 you an intrusion.
 So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not
 use
 him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends.
 I know you will have to work your way to it.
 All the best.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra
 Jadhav
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 High Rahul,
 Why do you like someone's company?
 I fully agree with this sentence.
 I think first of all you concentrate more on your study.
 Best of luck for your HSC exam.
 Don't thinks negative.
 Now see how many reply come to you?
 These are all friends, so why are you worry?



 On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Rahul,

  Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in.

 All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for
 discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done
 so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your
 friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it
 through action and performance.

 How?
 Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions
 for a little time. Why do you like someone's company?

 Are you getting some answers?
 It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality,
 talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and
 rendering help. Cheerful smile and sense of humor attract embrace from
 people.

 You must be possessing many of above mentioned qualities. Capitalize
 on it. People will not come to you unless they believe that you add
 value to their lives in any which way. To be specific, try to
 normalize your life style as much as you can with your mainstream
 peers.

 You should be at least partially independent in mobility to gain
 others confidence in you.
 How do you walk to your place after getting down from your car?
 Who picks up your bag and carry it?
 Does always your aid only find things for you before you extend your
 hands?

 Then time to thing and act my friend.

 Even though blessed with multiple difficulties, I have lived an
 

Re: [AI] doubt about talks and c5

2011-12-01 Thread Mujtaba Merchant
Hello Priyesh,

The Nokia C5 is a good buy for the usability and pricing with talks software. I 
have the same phone with me and it works great on messaging and calls. I do not 
use the internet on the phone, so I cannot comment on the performance on that. 
I bought this phone from Bangalore and it costed me 8,000 with the talks 
licenced software it was on a scheme buy, otherwise you pay an additional of 
5,000 just for talks, I am given to believe that the phone costs around 6,500 
or closer. I suggest you contact someone that can give you the phone on the 
scheme, that way you do not have to install the softwaere seprately.

Mujtaba Merchant

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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Yeah, that is a good idea.
Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
 Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only.
  A driver is more than enough.
But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
taught in the class.

On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Rajesh Sir,

 I completely agree with you.
 In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
 escort.

 It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
 don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
 Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
 birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
 I and my friends were going to meet.
 I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
 in the car till then.

 On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
 my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
 different place.

 Am I doing enough?
 Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of
 privacy?

 BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
 desirability of escorts? :)





 On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ravindra Sir,

 I really appreciate your suggestions.
 However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
 socialising at the cost of my studies.
  In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem
 is that I study way too much :P
 Studies can only take you so far in life.
 Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament.
 So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and
 beside the point.

 Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about
 desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted
 escort
 is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and
 consider
 you an intrusion.
 So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not
 use
 him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends.
 I know you will have to work your way to it.
 All the best.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra
 Jadhav
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 High Rahul,
 Why do you like someone's company?
 I fully agree with this sentence.
 I think first of all you concentrate more on your study.
 Best of luck for your HSC exam.
 Don't thinks negative.
 Now see how many reply come to you?
 These are all friends, so why are you worry?



 On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Rahul,

  Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in.

 All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for
 discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done
 so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your
 friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it
 through action and performance.

 How?
 Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions
 for a little time. Why do you like someone's company?

 Are you getting some answers?
 It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality,
 talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and
 rendering help. Cheerful smile and sense of humor attract embrace from
 people.

 You must be possessing many of above mentioned qualities. Capitalize
 on it. People will not come to you unless they believe that you add
 value to their lives in any which way. To be specific, try to
 normalize your life style as much as you can with your mainstream
 peers.

 You should 

Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Phen Varghese
If you want someone to help you to write what is tought in the class
then there are two opptions.
1. Tell the teacher to write in your note book or tell her to tell
someone to write for you .
2. By a digital recorder or a angel voice recorder.
It will be useful.

RGDS,

Phen Varghese

On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, that is a good idea.
 Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
  Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
 only.
   A driver is more than enough.
 But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
 taught in the class.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
 escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
 separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such
 a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced
 in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Rajesh Sir,

 I completely agree with you.
 In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
 escort.

 It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
 don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
 Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
 birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
 I and my friends were going to meet.
 I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
 in the car till then.

 On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
 my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
 different place.

 Am I doing enough?
 Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of
 privacy?

 BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
 desirability of escorts? :)





 On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ravindra Sir,

 I really appreciate your suggestions.
 However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
 socialising at the cost of my studies.
  In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem
 is that I study way too much :P
 Studies can only take you so far in life.
 Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in
 mind.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament.
 So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic
 and
 beside the point.

 Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about
 desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted
 escort
 is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and
 consider
 you an intrusion.
 So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not
 use
 him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends.
 I know you will have to work your way to it.
 All the best.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra
 Jadhav
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 High Rahul,
 Why do you like someone's company?
 I fully agree with this sentence.
 I think first of all you concentrate more on your study.
 Best of luck for your HSC exam.
 Don't thinks negative.
 Now see how many reply come to you?
 These are all friends, so why are you worry?



 On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Rahul,

  Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in.

 All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for
 discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done
 so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your
 friends to hang out with you but they would not get convinced. DO it
 through action and performance.

 How?
 Buddy, think little practically by keeping aside depressing emotions
 for a little time. Why do you like someone's company?

 Are you getting some answers?
 It's your independence of mobility, body language, personality,
 talking skills, knowledge of relevant things, flexibility and
 rendering 

Re: [AI] doubt about talks and c5

2011-12-01 Thread umarluha...@gmail.com
In case of internet also its very nice. I am always browsing the internet and 
managing my google group from phone only. 
Join my group
http://groups.google.com/group/keyboardusers?hl=en-Original message-
From: Mujtaba Merchant
Sent:  01/12/2011, 3:37  pm
To: Access India
Subject: Re: [AI] doubt  about  talks  and  c5


Hello Priyesh,

The Nokia C5 is a good buy for the usability and pricing with talks software. I 
have the same phone with me and it works great on messaging and calls. I do not 
use the internet on the phone, so I cannot comment on the performance on that. 
I bought this phone from Bangalore and it costed me 8,000 with the talks 
licenced software it was on a scheme buy, otherwise you pay an additional of 
5,000 just for talks, I am given to believe that the phone costs around 6,500 
or closer. I suggest you contact someone that can give you the phone on the 
scheme, that way you do not have to install the softwaere seprately.

Mujtaba Merchant

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Re: [AI] doubt about n v d a

2011-12-01 Thread kakarla nageswaraiah
I don't know whether it works for you or not.  Try the insert+s
combination and see what happens.  Or ctrl+insert+s for selecting the
synthesizer of your choice.
Regards.


On 12/1/11, Silpa Mallipeddi mallipeddi.si...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All:

 I installed the latest version of NVDA, NVDA 2011.3, but not hearing
 the voice of NVDA.
 I am only hearing the beep sound when a page loads.

 I tried a couple of times uninstalling and installing it, but the same
 results.

 Thanks and regards,
 Silpa.


 On 11/26/11, RAJ VASWANI mr.rajvasw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Piush,

 You can go to preferences submenu from there choose voice settings. Now
 press tap until you hear rate and do adjust it accordingly.
 Hope it helps.
 - Original Message -
 From: Priyesh.C.U priyesh...@gmail.com
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:08 PM
 Subject: [AI] doubt about n v d a


 friends,  i  have  reasonly  got   n v d a.  while  using  it  as  the
 screen  reader  on  the  system  its  default  speed  is  very  high  and
 difficult  to  follow.  hence  i  would  like  to  decrease  its  reading
 speed,  for  this  please  let  me  know  the  key  command  for  the
 purpose.  looking  forwardto  your  kind  help.
 . With best regards, Priyesh.C.U, Assistant Professor, Department of
 Politics, Koyilandy Government College, Kozhikode District, Kerala.
 Mobile: 09846141225 Email I D: priyesh...@gmail.com Skype I D: priyesh.cu
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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Hi Rahul,

Since you are 10+, fortaking notes, I think, I would suggest you to get a
net book, very easy to carry and you can take every notes on your own. 

Perhaps, you can request your teacher to read along while she /he are
writing on the board. My teachers used to do that for me.

Hope this helps. All the best.
-Srinivasu

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:50 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

If you want someone to help you to write what is tought in the class
then there are two opptions.
1. Tell the teacher to write in your note book or tell her to tell
someone to write for you .
2. By a digital recorder or a angel voice recorder.
It will be useful.

RGDS,

Phen Varghese

On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, that is a good idea.
 Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
  Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
 only.
   A driver is more than enough.
 But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
 taught in the class.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
 escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
 separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not
such
 a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced
 in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Rajesh Sir,

 I completely agree with you.
 In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
 escort.

 It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
 don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
 Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
 birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
 I and my friends were going to meet.
 I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
 in the car till then.

 On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
 my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
 different place.

 Am I doing enough?
 Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of
 privacy?

 BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
 desirability of escorts? :)





 On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ravindra Sir,

 I really appreciate your suggestions.
 However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
 socialising at the cost of my studies.
  In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem
 is that I study way too much :P
 Studies can only take you so far in life.
 Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in
 mind.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament.
 So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic
 and
 beside the point.

 Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about
 desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted
 escort
 is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and
 consider
 you an intrusion.
 So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not
 use
 him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends.
 I know you will have to work your way to it.
 All the best.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra
 Jadhav
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 High Rahul,
 Why do you like someone's company?
 I fully agree with this sentence.
 I think first of all you concentrate more on your study.
 Best of luck for your HSC exam.
 Don't thinks negative.
 Now see how many reply come to you?
 These are all friends, so why are you worry?



 On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Rahul,

  Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in.

 All brilliant points except one 

Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes?

Or record them?
Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the 
blackboard, right?
We have to press for it as it  is the reasonable accommodation in education for 
blind...

Anyway, all through  my educational career, I hardly found notes given by 
teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never 
bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced  madams did do 
it on their own...



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

Yeah, that is a good idea.
Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
 Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver only.
  A driver is more than enough.
But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
taught in the class.

On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Rajesh Sir,

 I completely agree with you.
 In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
 escort.

 It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
 don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
 Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
 birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
 I and my friends were going to meet.
 I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
 in the car till then.

 On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
 my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
 different place.

 Am I doing enough?
 Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of
 privacy?

 BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
 desirability of escorts? :)





 On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ravindra Sir,

 I really appreciate your suggestions.
 However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
 socialising at the cost of my studies.
  In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem
 is that I study way too much :P
 Studies can only take you so far in life.
 Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament.
 So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic and
 beside the point.

 Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about
 desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted
 escort
 is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and
 consider
 you an intrusion.
 So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not
 use
 him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends.
 I know you will have to work your way to it.
 All the best.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra
 Jadhav
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 High Rahul,
 Why do you like someone's company?
 I fully agree with this sentence.
 I think first of all you concentrate more on your study.
 Best of luck for your HSC exam.
 Don't thinks negative.
 Now see how many reply come to you?
 These are all friends, so why are you worry?



 On 11/30/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Rahul,

  Got some time from office work so couldn't stop butting in.

 All brilliant points except one where there is a need mentioned for
 discussing it out with your friends. In my opinion, should not be done
 so, you will only seek sympathy and would emotionally induce your
 friends to 

[AI] FW: November 2011 - CBR Forum - E- News Bulletin

2011-12-01 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


From: Mahesh Chandrasekar [mailto:advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:03 PM
Subject: November 2011 - CBR Forum - E- News Bulletin

CBR Forum E-News Bulletin

- A Compilation of News, Information and Updates

November 2011 - CBR Forum - E- News Bulletin

First issue: Oct 2007, Current Issue No. #51

Networking, Advocacy and Lobbying - in promoting the rights of persons with 
disabilities and enhance the potential to exercise these rights.
Compiled by:
Mary Battihun and C. Mahesh
advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.commailto:advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com

A: INDIA

A1: ACTS/ POLICY/ PROGRAMMES

International Day of Persons with Disabilities, 3 December 2011

Theme for 2011: Together for a better world for all: Including persons with 
disabilities in development
http://www.un.org/disabilities/default.asp?id=1561

1,500 scholarships for disabled

NEW DELHI: The National Handicapped Finance and Development Corporation (NHFDC) 
announced 1,500 scholarships for persons with disabilities on Saturday.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/1500-scholarships-for-disabled/articleshow/10798436.cms

Disability certificate to eligible persons within 3 days: Govt.

Shimla, Nov 7 (PTI) Disability certificates would be issued to eligible persons 
within three days of applying and any deliberate delay in doing so would 
attract action, Social Justice and Empowerment Minister Sarveen Chowdhary today 
said.
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/wire-news/disability-certificate-to-eligible-persons-within-3-days-govt_612785.html

Government lines up scholarship for children of disabled

BERHAMPUR: The state government will provide a monthly scholarship of Rs. 350 
to the children of disabled persons, whose annual family income is below Rs 
50,000.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhubaneswar/Govt-lines-up-scholarship-for-children-of-disabled/articleshow/10603214.cms

Include learning disabilities in Disability Act, say docs

While the Right to Education (RTE) provides for the rights of those with 
disabilities, the Disability Act itself does not cover people with learning 
disability.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Include-learning-disabilities-in-Disability-Act-say-docs/Article1-772305.aspx

Aadhaar centers to get disabled-friendly

To facilitate people with disabilities in enrolling for Aadhaar - the Unique 
Identification Number (UID) - the Delhi government has set up special 
enrollment camps with the help of Unique Identification Authority of India. 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Aadhaar-centres-to-get-disabled-friendly/Article1-769766.aspx

Enumeration of disabled kids begins

MYSORE: Enumeration of physically challenged children began in Mysore from 
Tuesday as part of Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan. The two-day census is looking for 
special kids between 3 and 16 years of age. 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mysore/Enumeration-of-disabled-kids-begins/articleshow/10755510.cms

Scheme to detect hearing disabilities among tots

KOCHI: The Child Care Centre in Kochi has launched a scheme, 'Swaram', aimed at 
universal newborn screening to detect and provide medical aid to newborns with 
hearing disabilities.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/scheme-to-detect-hearing-disabilities-among-tots/202417-60-122.html

Disability assistance discontinued in Punjab in more than 12% cases

CHANDIGARH: A survey done to assess effectiveness of government schemes in 
Punjab has discovered that assistance was stopped in case of 12.5% of those 
surveyed in rural areas due to 'some bureaucratic reasons.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Disability-assistance-discontinued-in-Punjab-in-more-than-12-cases/articleshow/10575503.cms








Census disproves Kasargods high disability myth

KASARGOD: Here is good news for the people of Kasargod who are supposed to 
suffer from various diseases. The widespread propaganda that the district is 
hit by various diseases now stands exposed by the first report on disability 
which was published as per the Census of the government of India, 2001.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/census-disproves-kasargods-high-disability-myth/206028-60-116.html



A2: VERDICT


Need interpreters for hearing impaired at public places: HC

A Delhi High Court order is likely to make life easier for the speech and 
hearing impaired. Public places like railway stations, airports, bus depots, 
hospitals, police stations, educational institutions and government offices may 
soon have sign language interpreters to facilitate basic communication for the 
speech and hearing impaired.
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/need-interpreters-for-hearing-impaired-at-public-places-hc/880608/Miss

HC issues notice to UPSC over quota for disabled in IAS

Mumbai, Nov 22 (PTI) the Bombay High Court today issued a notice to the Union 
Public Service Commission over a PIL which has sought three per cent quota for 
the disabled in the Indian Administrative Service (IAS).

Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Vamshi. G
Rahul,

Now, this is something serious.  Are you saying your sighted guide
sits with you in the class and takes down the notes?  This is not
good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point
of view.
You write your mails without any mistakes.  So, as others advised, Use
portable devices for your academics.  Once you take a laptop with Jaws
installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be
getting.


On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes?

 Or record them?
 Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the
 blackboard, right?
 We have to press for it as it  is the reasonable accommodation in education
 for blind...

 Anyway, all through  my educational career, I hardly found notes given by
 teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never
 bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced  madams did
 do it on their own...



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Yeah, that is a good idea.
 Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
  Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
 only.
   A driver is more than enough.
 But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
 taught in the class.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
 escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
 separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not such
 a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced
 in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Rajesh Sir,

 I completely agree with you.
 In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
 escort.

 It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
 don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
 Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
 birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
 I and my friends were going to meet.
 I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
 in the car till then.

 On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
 my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
 different place.

 Am I doing enough?
 Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of
 privacy?

 BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
 desirability of escorts? :)





 On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ravindra Sir,

 I really appreciate your suggestions.
 However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
 socialising at the cost of my studies.
  In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem
 is that I study way too much :P
 Studies can only take you so far in life.
 Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in
 mind.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament.
 So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic
 and
 beside the point.

 Specifically Rahul, here the third requirement of my theorum about
 desirability of escorts is being violated, i.e. the constant sighted
 escort
 is intruding upon your privacy and your friends may not like it and
 consider
 you an intrusion.
 So, try to restrict your sighted escort to the essential tasks and not
 use
 him/her for collective activities such as outings with friends.
 I know you will have to work your way to it.
 All the best.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra
 Jadhav
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 High Rahul,
 Why do you like someone's company?
 I fully agree with this sentence.
 I think first of all you 

[AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP

2011-12-01 Thread ekinath ekinath
Hi list members,

Does anybody have any experience with Ayurvedic treatment for
retaining or enhancing sight, specially, persons suffering with
Retinius Pigmentosa?

I was recently prompted by my eye pain in which I do have light
perception to look for at least a preserving sight treatment.

A friend of mine suggested an Ayurvedic center in Kerala. If i am
right then some name like “Sreedharayam.”

Pl. guide me on the matter. Attention, specially people who have gone
through the treatment.
Any useful info is appreciated.

Regards




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Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP

2011-12-01 Thread maitreya shah

hi ,
yes i visited there for 3 times and the name is shreedheriyam . it is 
located in kothatukulam near arnakulam .

it is the best ayurvedic treatment centre . it gives best results .
the treatment of this hospital has restored vision of many patients 
suffering from retinal pigmentosa .

it gives excellent treatment .
you can also visit this link
http://www.sreedhareeyam.com/mainhospital.html

this hospital is full facillited

if you want more information then feel free to contact me .
my skype id : maitreya.shah1
and my mobile number : 8690943237
THANKS ,

MAITREYA

GIVE ME A CHANCE TO STAND  I WILL MOVE THE EARTH!!
- Original Message - 
From: ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com

To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:51 PM
Subject: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP


Hi list members,

Does anybody have any experience with Ayurvedic treatment for
retaining or enhancing sight, specially, persons suffering with
Retinius Pigmentosa?

I was recently prompted by my eye pain in which I do have light
perception to look for at least a preserving sight treatment.

A friend of mine suggested an Ayurvedic center in Kerala. If i am
right then some name like “Sreedharayam.”

Pl. guide me on the matter. Attention, specially people who have gone
through the treatment.
Any useful info is appreciated.

Regards




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but it is the current beneath the water that determines your direction.”


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Re: [AI] Re shouldn't it be done ??

2011-12-01 Thread maitreya shah

you are right sir
but , we have not got any replies from this list . isn't this a essential 
topic to be studied ??

why noone is taking intrest in this topic?
are all satisfied with the oppertunaties given to handicapped persons ??

if you are reading this mail , then please share your opinion and bring this 
topic forward for betterment of handicapped people


THANKS ,

MAITREYA

GIVE ME A CHANCE TO STAND  I WILL MOVE THE EARTH!!
- Original Message - 
From: Bhavesh Shah shah.bhaves...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:40 PM
Subject: [AI] Re shouldn't it be done ??



Yes maitreya shah,

This is something very important issue of the society. I believe that
physically challenged citizen of our country should have many privileges 
to

enjoy. I believe their should be a  portfolio in the cabinet ministry in
the central as well as state government. A minister should be appointed 
for

the weaker section of the society including physically challenged citizen.
Even in every year budget some amount should be allocated to this cabinet
ministry  which can be utilized for physically challenged people
especially from interior part of the country as well as rural area. I
believe due to latest technology of computer, internet  screen reading
software visually challenged people have become more efficient  skilful.
There are many sectors such as public as well as private  educational
field. Certain number of seats should be reserved for VI. I believe
blindness is no longer challenging. Lot of work is required to be done for
social as well as economic awareness  how much VI are equipped to stand
confidently in the society to make valuable contribution in the country's
economy.

Here I also have one question what provision is made for employment of
visually challenged? Any one can reply to this.

Thanks,
Bhavesh

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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Vamshi Sir,

No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does
sit at another place in the class to take notes for me.
However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop
or something similar are actually quite executable.
In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those
lines after completing 12th.
Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college.
I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes.

But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these
things, is my attitude.
I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by
asking that person to help me.
The only good thing is that  I can at least openly say that these are
the problems that I have.


On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rahul,

 Now, this is something serious.  Are you saying your sighted guide
 sits with you in the class and takes down the notes?  This is not
 good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point
 of view.
 You write your mails without any mistakes.  So, as others advised, Use
 portable devices for your academics.  Once you take a laptop with Jaws
 installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be
 getting.


 On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes?

 Or record them?
 Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the
 blackboard, right?
 We have to press for it as it  is the reasonable accommodation in
 education
 for blind...

 Anyway, all through  my educational career, I hardly found notes given by
 teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never
 bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced  madams
 did
 do it on their own...



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Yeah, that is a good idea.
 Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
  Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
 only.
   A driver is more than enough.
 But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
 taught in the class.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
 escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
 separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not
 such
 a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced
 in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Rajesh Sir,

 I completely agree with you.
 In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
 escort.

 It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
 don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
 Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
 birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
 I and my friends were going to meet.
 I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
 in the car till then.

 On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
 my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
 different place.

 Am I doing enough?
 Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of
 privacy?

 BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
 desirability of escorts? :)





 On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ravindra Sir,

 I really appreciate your suggestions.
 However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
 socialising at the cost of my studies.
  In fact, my parents and others who know me say that my main problem
 is that I study way too much :P
 Studies can only take you so far in life.
 Anyway, thank you for your wishes, and I'll keep your suggestions in
 mind.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well, I can fully understand rahul's predicament.
 So, advice to concentrate on studies and so on is too, too moralistic
 

Re: [AI] Does talks support fm radio in nokia C5

2011-12-01 Thread gufran
hello please select radio. then unmute talks and then pres the center button 
to open the fm radio.
- Original Message - 
From: Bhavesh Shah shah.bhaves...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:47 PM
Subject: [AI] Does talks support fm radio in nokia C5



I'm facing problem to play FM radio in nokia C5 with the help of talks. I
can't play FM while talks is enable. Talks is required to be disabled to
play FM radio? or reply how to set up.


Thanks
Bhavesh

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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala
Many people feel like you do. But if you don't ask for help when
required then it may be considered as attitude or ego by others who
may be willing to help. Be frank and friendly to people and they would
offer to help willingly. Don't consider yourself isolated or different
from others - that's what causes the communication gap and an
unfriendly environment.

The use of laptop or netbook or a QWERT phone is a brilliant step to
make yourself independent for notes taking. You can record the lecture
with their permission and take down notes simultaneously. My nephew
Hozefa (he is an AI member too) does it successfully using his netbook
in his college and coaching class.

On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Vamshi Sir,

 No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does
 sit at another place in the class to take notes for me.
 However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop
 or something similar are actually quite executable.
 In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those
 lines after completing 12th.
 Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college.
 I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes.

 But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these
 things, is my attitude.
 I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by
 asking that person to help me.
 The only good thing is that  I can at least openly say that these are
 the problems that I have.


 On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rahul,

 Now, this is something serious.  Are you saying your sighted guide
 sits with you in the class and takes down the notes?  This is not
 good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point
 of view.
 You write your mails without any mistakes.  So, as others advised, Use
 portable devices for your academics.  Once you take a laptop with Jaws
 installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be
 getting.


 On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes?

 Or record them?
 Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the
 blackboard, right?
 We have to press for it as it  is the reasonable accommodation in
 education
 for blind...

 Anyway, all through  my educational career, I hardly found notes given by
 teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never
 bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced  madams
 did
 do it on their own...



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Yeah, that is a good idea.
 Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
  Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
 only.
   A driver is more than enough.
 But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
 taught in the class.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
 escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy
 concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
 separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not
 such
 a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course
 reduced
 in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Rajesh Sir,

 I completely agree with you.
 In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
 escort.

 It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
 don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
 Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
 birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
 I and my friends were going to meet.
 I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
 in the car till then.

 On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
 my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
 different place.

 Am I doing enough?
 Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with 

Re: [AI] (no subject)

2011-12-01 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
It is a very trickey subject and we cannot impose a blancket piracy on
it for the following reasons. Some owners creating PDF files in India
don't give a dam about accesibility and in that context breaking the
password is the only way of accessing it. It's like scanning a copy
righted material. But if a file is password protected for privacy
reasons, then that's a hole another issue. There are two types of
documents that we can distinguish here. Some documents are simply
secured, but text is visible on the PDF viewer. It's done in order to
avoid modifications. In that situation, there is nothing wrong in
bypassing password protection for accesibility. However some documents
like Pay stuff can't be opened even with pdf viewer without the
password and the text will not be visible. So in that situation it is
unlawful to break the password. Again if you are the sole owner of
that file and the creater of the PDF do not consider your
accesibility, then he/she can and should be challenged under
accesibility.

Vetri.

On 01/12/2011, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 Then you should speak few words concerning the restricted PDF files.  due to
 accessibility issue security restriction has to be removed according to
 somebody.  is it OK if we modify the owner's content for the sake of
 accessibility?
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:11 PM
 Subject: [AI] (no subject)


 Hello

 I am indeed following this thread closely.

 I shall intervene when situation warrents it, not otherwise.

 Harish Kotian
 Moderator.

 From: Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Help Required on Opening Secured PDF File


 I don't no why moderator sits silently in such case.  only he opposes
 when
 the cracs are discussed.  if moderator is unaware of such things, then why
 do we require  such rules and conducts?





 
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[AI] A Reader for the Visually Impaired

2011-12-01 Thread rambabu adikesavalu
Dear Friends,
Greetings!
I came across this very interesting information in the recent CBR Newsletter 
which I am pasting below. Could anyone throw some light on it?

A reader for the visually impaired

The Central Scientific Instruments Organization (CSIO), Chandigarh, has 
designed a reading machine for the visually impaired that will help them read 
books, letters, magazines and other documents that are not in Braille without 
the help of a third person.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/A-reader-for-the-visually-impaired/874927/


With best wishes,
Dr. A.Rambabu



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Re: [AI] Confusion regarding scribe’s qualification in CWE,IBPS

2011-12-01 Thread Rohiet A. Patil

Hi shiv kumar!
Please practise to write your reply on the top of the original mail. 
Otherwise, we may miss it.
- Original Message - 
From: shiv kashimpuria shivkumar1...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI]Confusion regarding scribe’s qualification in CWE,IBPS


On 12/1/11, bijal patel bijalpatel...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear friends,
I am going to attend CWE in iBPS on 11th of DEC. I have completed post
graduation and B.Ed. Question regarding scribe:
.what should be scribe’s qualification?One grade Below according to my
educational qualification or below 12th standard?
I am more confused, so please, solve my query as early as possible.
Thanks.
Bijal.


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Hello Bijal,

It will be one grade lower than 12th standard.

Regards

Shiv Kumar
Kolkata


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[AI] problem sending free matter again

2011-12-01 Thread Jean Parker
Colleagues:
Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free matter 
for the blind rules had been changed.  I had attempted to send a package 
containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India.  I had tried at 
both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune GPO.  At that 
time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked.  
Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO and was 
told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free matter policy 
had been revoked for five years.  How then is it possible for those of us who 
receive talking books from the US to continue sending them back and forth to 
the US with no interference if the rules have been changed?

In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual government 
circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it to the postal 
authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and policies.  The 
only response I received was an informal one from someone who said they 
regularly receive materials at home under the free matter provision.  

Clearly, the Pune postal authorities are unequipped to read and interpret their 
own rules so someone else must do it for them.  I am asking once again for 
either the actual publications where these rules are outlined or, at the very 
least, a web site where I may download them myself.  Kanchan, Rajesh, someone 
from NAB?  Someone else entirely?  Where can the rules be obtained?  And, how 
can I report this matter to the real authorities for resolution?

Many thanks for all efforts,
Jean
 

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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Vamshi. G
Hi Rahul,

I can say both of us are sailing in the same boat, except that I am
sitting at the front end of the boat and you at the back end, i.e., I
am slightly experienced than you.  It's only recently that I've
started asking help from others(sometimes strangers too) leaving the
early inhibitions, and believe me, I'm finding it very useful.  We
feel we might be troubling others by asking help, but they will be
happy to help us.  And it's in this way that relationships develop.

Second, I always feel acceptance of problem is the first step towards
finding out solutions.  Since you have taken the first step, you will
find yourself in a more comfortable position in the very near future.

Best



On 12/1/11, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Many people feel like you do. But if you don't ask for help when
 required then it may be considered as attitude or ego by others who
 may be willing to help. Be frank and friendly to people and they would
 offer to help willingly. Don't consider yourself isolated or different
 from others - that's what causes the communication gap and an
 unfriendly environment.

 The use of laptop or netbook or a QWERT phone is a brilliant step to
 make yourself independent for notes taking. You can record the lecture
 with their permission and take down notes simultaneously. My nephew
 Hozefa (he is an AI member too) does it successfully using his netbook
 in his college and coaching class.

 On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Vamshi Sir,

 No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does
 sit at another place in the class to take notes for me.
 However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop
 or something similar are actually quite executable.
 In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those
 lines after completing 12th.
 Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college.
 I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes.

 But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these
 things, is my attitude.
 I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by
 asking that person to help me.
 The only good thing is that  I can at least openly say that these are
 the problems that I have.


 On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rahul,

 Now, this is something serious.  Are you saying your sighted guide
 sits with you in the class and takes down the notes?  This is not
 good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point
 of view.
 You write your mails without any mistakes.  So, as others advised, Use
 portable devices for your academics.  Once you take a laptop with Jaws
 installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be
 getting.


 On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes?

 Or record them?
 Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the
 blackboard, right?
 We have to press for it as it  is the reasonable accommodation in
 education
 for blind...

 Anyway, all through  my educational career, I hardly found notes given
 by
 teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never
 bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced  madams
 did
 do it on their own...



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Yeah, that is a good idea.
 Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
  Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
 only.
   A driver is more than enough.
 But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
 taught in the class.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
 escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy
 concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
 separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not
 such
 a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course
 reduced
 in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul
 Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: 

Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again

2011-12-01 Thread Rohiet A. Patil

Hi mam!
Please get in touch with eyeway helpdesk. They are having the exact 
cercular. Some months before, Pranay has posted the same on the list itself.

Thanks
Rohiet
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM
Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again



Colleagues:
Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free 
matter for the blind rules had been changed.  I had attempted to send a 
package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India.  I 
had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune 
GPO.  At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked.
Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO 
and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free 
matter policy had been revoked for five years.  How then is it possible 
for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending 
them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been 
changed?


In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual 
government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it 
to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and 
policies.  The only response I received was an informal one from someone 
who said they regularly receive materials at home under the free matter 
provision.


Clearly, the Pune postal authorities are unequipped to read and interpret 
their own rules so someone else must do it for them.  I am asking once 
again for either the actual publications where these rules are outlined 
or, at the very least, a web site where I may download them myself. 
Kanchan, Rajesh, someone from NAB?  Someone else entirely?  Where can the 
rules be obtained?  And, how can I report this matter to the real 
authorities for resolution?


Many thanks for all efforts,
Jean


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Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP

2011-12-01 Thread Vamshi. G
Hi Ekinath,

Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any
medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa.  There is no scientific
validity for any of these treatments.
However some patients have reported some success with some of these
treatments.  But there is no reason for either success or failure of
these medicines.

I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment
at Sredheriyam .  Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP
have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of
the disease.  again, we don't know whether this is because of the
treatment or due to the nature of the disease.  For example, I
couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year,
and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated.  Had I been
treated by these medicines at my 10th year,  I would have claimed that
my vision has remained stable for 10 years, which has happened even
without the treatment.

I am not discouraging anyone from going to alternative forms of
medicines.  My only contention is that a treatment should be
scientifically validated before being put to commercial use.

Treatments like bionic eye, gene therapy, stem cell therapy are on the
way and may be available in the near future, hopefully.  We have
waited for a long time, let's keep our cool for some more time.

For more on retinal disorders, visit

www.retinaindia.org

Once you register under the join us page, you can send any medical
queries you have to the e-mail ID
doc...@retinaindia.org

Medical team of Retina India will get back to you within a day or two.


On 12/1/11, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi ,
 yes i visited there for 3 times and the name is shreedheriyam . it is
 located in kothatukulam near arnakulam .
 it is the best ayurvedic treatment centre . it gives best results .
 the treatment of this hospital has restored vision of many patients
 suffering from retinal pigmentosa .
 it gives excellent treatment .
 you can also visit this link
 http://www.sreedhareeyam.com/mainhospital.html

 this hospital is full facillited

 if you want more information then feel free to contact me .
 my skype id : maitreya.shah1
 and my mobile number : 8690943237
 THANKS ,

 MAITREYA

 GIVE ME A CHANCE TO STAND  I WILL MOVE THE EARTH!!
 - Original Message -
 From: ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:51 PM
 Subject: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP


 Hi list members,

 Does anybody have any experience with Ayurvedic treatment for
 retaining or enhancing sight, specially, persons suffering with
 Retinius Pigmentosa?

 I was recently prompted by my eye pain in which I do have light
 perception to look for at least a preserving sight treatment.

 A friend of mine suggested an Ayurvedic center in Kerala. If i am
 right then some name like “Sreedharayam.”

 Pl. guide me on the matter. Attention, specially people who have gone
 through the treatment.
 Any useful info is appreciated.

 Regards




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Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again

2011-12-01 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
Hi,

Check this web page:

http://www.indiapost.gov.in/MailProducts.html#8._Blind_Literature_Packet:

Vetri.

On 01/12/2011, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:
 Hi mam!
 Please get in touch with eyeway helpdesk. They are having the exact
 cercular. Some months before, Pranay has posted the same on the list itself.
 Thanks
 Rohiet
 - Original Message -
 From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM
 Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again


 Colleagues:
 Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free
 matter for the blind rules had been changed.  I had attempted to send a
 package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India.  I
 had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune

 GPO.  At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked.
 Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO
 and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free
 matter policy had been revoked for five years.  How then is it possible
 for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending
 them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been
 changed?

 In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual
 government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it
 to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and

 policies.  The only response I received was an informal one from someone
 who said they regularly receive materials at home under the free matter
 provision.

 Clearly, the Pune postal authorities are unequipped to read and interpret
 their own rules so someone else must do it for them.  I am asking once
 again for either the actual publications where these rules are outlined
 or, at the very least, a web site where I may download them myself.
 Kanchan, Rajesh, someone from NAB?  Someone else entirely?  Where can the
 rules be obtained?  And, how can I report this matter to the real
 authorities for resolution?

 Many thanks for all efforts,
 Jean


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Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP

2011-12-01 Thread jaison bellarmine
Hai friend,
I am residing near the Sreedhariyam hospital. I am a victim of RP. For
the last 9 years, I am away from print medium. I had undergone a
treatment for 6 months under the chief doctor of the above said
hospital Dr.NPP Namboothiri. Before that from 92 to 96 I was taking
homeo medicine and my vision was stable thereafter. The main problem i
faced at that time was my night blindness. In 98 I was taken to Dr.
Namboothiri by one of my distant relative. After the six month
treatment my vision during the day time started decreasing and I was
asked to take a course of treatment as an inpatient of the hospital.
Mean while I met a person Sunny George from panakkapalam near Pala in
Kottayam district of Kerala. When he started treatment he had only one
problem and it was the difficulty he felt when light from an
approaching vehicle fall in to his eyes. He was a driver in KSRTC.
After the treatment doctor assured him that his vision will not
deteriorate and that he can undertake any job which he could do in
good light condition. He joined in Maruthi service center in Delhi and
was dispelled from the center after one and a half year as he was not
able to see nut and bolt!
Hearing this experience I decided to stop the treatment. Later in 2001
I underwent a treatment in another hospital near Thodupuzha in Kerala
and I gained verymuch in my vision. But after completing the first
course of treatment late in the year a lost my ability to read text.
Then I again turned to Homeopathic treatment and vision is not
deteriorating thereafter. For the last 9 years my vision is 2/60.
I know about 10 persons who underwent treatment in Sreedhariyam and
about 20 persons who underwent treatment in the hospital near
Thodupuzha. None of them has gained distinguishable visual acuity and
had some improvement only in associated problems like head ache and so
on. I haven’t met a single person who have considerable vision
improvement. Some experiences were given by the hospital through print
media. I don’t find it reliable. This sharing is not to hurt any one
but to show my anger against the exploitation of hospitals under the
name “Ayurveda”. I don’t like to say about the cost of treatment in
these hospitals.
Sorry for this long mail. I just wanted to give a clear picture of the
situation as I experienced and knew. Now it is up to you to decide.
My comment is only about treatment of cronic situations RP and the
diseases associated with nervous disorders. Even in the treatmet of
congenital cateract, I have found this hospital, a failure.
With regards
Jaison Bellarmine.

On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ekinath,

 Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any
 medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa.  There is no scientific
 validity for any of these treatments.
 However some patients have reported some success with some of these
 treatments.  But there is no reason for either success or failure of
 these medicines.

 I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment
 at Sredheriyam .  Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP
 have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of
 the disease.  again, we don't know whether this is because of the
 treatment or due to the nature of the disease.  For example, I
 couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year,
 and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated.  Had I been
 treated by these medicines at my 10th year,  I would have claimed that
 my vision has remained stable for 10 years, which has happened even
 without the treatment.

 I am not discouraging anyone from going to alternative forms of
 medicines.  My only contention is that a treatment should be
 scientifically validated before being put to commercial use.

 Treatments like bionic eye, gene therapy, stem cell therapy are on the
 way and may be available in the near future, hopefully.  We have
 waited for a long time, let's keep our cool for some more time.

 For more on retinal disorders, visit

 www.retinaindia.org

 Once you register under the join us page, you can send any medical
 queries you have to the e-mail ID
 doc...@retinaindia.org

 Medical team of Retina India will get back to you within a day or two.


 On 12/1/11, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi ,
 yes i visited there for 3 times and the name is shreedheriyam . it is
 located in kothatukulam near arnakulam .
 it is the best ayurvedic treatment centre . it gives best results .
 the treatment of this hospital has restored vision of many patients
 suffering from retinal pigmentosa .
 it gives excellent treatment .
 you can also visit this link
 http://www.sreedhareeyam.com/mainhospital.html

 this hospital is full facillited

 if you want more information then feel free to contact me .
 my skype id : maitreya.shah1
 and my mobile number : 8690943237
 THANKS ,

 MAITREYA

 GIVE ME A CHANCE TO STAND  I WILL MOVE THE EARTH!!
 - Original 

Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Ajay Minocha
even I am totally agree with you Vamshi sir
when I used to be in school I have told you earlier that I was 0 in mobility
but now I have started to seek help from others
and I feel so much contented with my self when I reach to a place
without a fix escort
it is a boost to our confidence
regards

On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Rahul,

 I can say both of us are sailing in the same boat, except that I am
 sitting at the front end of the boat and you at the back end, i.e., I
 am slightly experienced than you.  It's only recently that I've
 started asking help from others(sometimes strangers too) leaving the
 early inhibitions, and believe me, I'm finding it very useful.  We
 feel we might be troubling others by asking help, but they will be
 happy to help us.  And it's in this way that relationships develop.

 Second, I always feel acceptance of problem is the first step towards
 finding out solutions.  Since you have taken the first step, you will
 find yourself in a more comfortable position in the very near future.

 Best



 On 12/1/11, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Many people feel like you do. But if you don't ask for help when
 required then it may be considered as attitude or ego by others who
 may be willing to help. Be frank and friendly to people and they would
 offer to help willingly. Don't consider yourself isolated or different
 from others - that's what causes the communication gap and an
 unfriendly environment.

 The use of laptop or netbook or a QWERT phone is a brilliant step to
 make yourself independent for notes taking. You can record the lecture
 with their permission and take down notes simultaneously. My nephew
 Hozefa (he is an AI member too) does it successfully using his netbook
 in his college and coaching class.

 On 12/1/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Vamshi Sir,

 No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does
 sit at another place in the class to take notes for me.
 However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop
 or something similar are actually quite executable.
 In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those
 lines after completing 12th.
 Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college.
 I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes.

 But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these
 things, is my attitude.
 I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by
 asking that person to help me.
 The only good thing is that  I can at least openly say that these are
 the problems that I have.


 On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rahul,

 Now, this is something serious.  Are you saying your sighted guide
 sits with you in the class and takes down the notes?  This is not
 good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point
 of view.
 You write your mails without any mistakes.  So, as others advised, Use
 portable devices for your academics.  Once you take a laptop with Jaws
 installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be
 getting.


 On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes?

 Or record them?
 Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the
 blackboard, right?
 We have to press for it as it  is the reasonable accommodation in
 education
 for blind...

 Anyway, all through  my educational career, I hardly found notes given
 by
 teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never
 bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced  madams
 did
 do it on their own...



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul
 Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Yeah, that is a good idea.
 Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
  Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
 only.
   A driver is more than enough.
 But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
 taught in the class.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
 escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy
 concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
 separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not
 such
 a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for 

[AI] URL for Vikas Gupta's Lecture: exclusionary politics of the RTE act

2011-12-01 Thread Naresh Kumar
Hi friends,
as some of the list members requested we are sharing our study circle
proceedings. Pasted below is the link for Vikas's lecture:
http://www.sambhavana.org/sites/default/files/sambhavana-data/disability-colloquium-and-study-circle/Exclusionary%20Politics%20of%20the%20Right%20to%20Education%20ACT%20By%20Vikas%20Gupta%20%285th%20Nov%202011%29.mp3


-- 
Naresh Kumar
Assistant Professor
Department of History
Kamala Nehru College
(University of Delhi)


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[AI] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2011-12-01 Thread Naresh Kumar
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To: naresh.rhy...@gmail.com

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Technical details of permanent failure:
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Subject: Sambhavana's fourth annual conference
From: Naresh Kumar naresh.rhy...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessin...@accessindia.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Friends,
to mark the celebration of World Disability Day Sambhavana cordially
invites you for its fourth annual conference on December 3rd, 1 pm
onwards at Delhi School of Social Work, Delhi University. The program
chart is pasted below:
SAMBHAVANA
With
DSSW
cordially invites you To the fourth annual conference on–
PRACTISING DISABILITY STUDIES IN INDIA: ISSUES AND PERSPECTIVES
Date: December 3rd, 2011–World Disability Day   Time: 1:00 p.m. onwards
Venue: Auditorium, Delhi School of Social Work, North Campus (Near
Maal Road), University of Delhi, Delhi-110007.
1:00-1:15 p.m.—Registration 1:15-1:30 p.m.—Welcome
1:30-1:50 p.m.—Key note Address: Prof. Tanmoy Bhattacharya, Centre for
Advance Studies, Linguistics, University of Delhi.
1:50 p.m. —Panel I-Dignity and Justice
1:50-2:10—‘Deconstructing Indignity’, Kapil Kumar, Dept of Political
Science, Delhi University
2:10-2:30—‘Disabled and Access to Justice’, Sanjay Jadhav, Assistant
Professor, Law, Mumbai University.
2:30-2:40 p.m.—Discussant,Jagdish Chander, Associate Professor,
Political Science, Hindu College, Delhi University.
2:40-3:00 p.m.—Open House Discussion.   3:00-3:15 p.m. —Tea.
3:15 p.m.—Panel II: Representation and Research
3:15-3:35 p.m.—‘Rashtravadi Hindi Sahitya aur Drishtihin Samudaya
(Nationalist Hindi Literature and Visually Impaired Community)’
Mahendra Dhakad, Assistant Prof., Rajdhani College, Delhi University.
3:35-3:55 p.m.—‘Quality of Life for Stroke Survivors’, Anuradha Gupta,
DSSW, Delhi University.
3:55-4:15 p.m.—‘Field work in Social Science Disability Research:
Issues and Constraints’, P. Deepa, CPS, Jawaharlal Nehru University.
4:15-4:25 p.m.—Discussant:Dr. Renu Addlakha, Centre for Women Studies,
New Delhi.
4:25-4:45 p.m.—Open House Discussion.
4:45 p.m.—Panel III: Disability and Education: Issues and Challenges
4:45-4:55 p.m.—Sambhavana’s advocacy initiatives for education: a
report, Vikas Gupta, Assistant Prof.


-- 
Naresh Kumar
Assistant Professor
Department of History
Kamala Nehru College
(University of Delhi)


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Re: [AI] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2011-12-01 Thread kakarla nageswaraiah
Two points need to be noted here:
1. The email address of accessindia was wrongly typed and so this mail
delivery failure.
2.  Better edit before forwarding.  Do we need to know about the mail
delivery failure due to a typo?

On 12/2/11, Naresh Kumar naresh.rhy...@gmail.com wrote:
 -- Forwarded message --
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 Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
 To: naresh.rhy...@gmail.com

 Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

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 Technical details of permanent failure:
 Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
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  01 Dec 2011 14:40:10 -0800 (PST)
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 Subject: Sambhavana's fourth annual conference
 From: Naresh Kumar naresh.rhy...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessin...@accessindia.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Hi Friends,
 to mark the celebration of World Disability Day Sambhavana cordially
 invites you for its fourth annual conference on December 3rd, 1 pm
 onwards at Delhi School of Social Work, Delhi University. The program
 chart is pasted below:
 SAMBHAVANA
 With
 DSSW
 cordially invites you To the fourth annual conference on–
 PRACTISING DISABILITY STUDIES IN INDIA: ISSUES AND PERSPECTIVES
 Date: December 3rd, 2011–World Disability Day Time: 1:00 p.m. onwards
 Venue: Auditorium, Delhi School of Social Work, North Campus (Near
 Maal Road), University of Delhi, Delhi-110007.
 1:00-1:15 p.m.—Registration   1:15-1:30 p.m.—Welcome
 1:30-1:50 p.m.—Key note Address: Prof. Tanmoy Bhattacharya, Centre for
 Advance Studies, Linguistics, University of Delhi.
 1:50 p.m. —Panel I-Dignity and Justice
 1:50-2:10—‘Deconstructing Indignity’, Kapil Kumar, Dept of Political
 Science, Delhi University
 2:10-2:30—‘Disabled and Access to Justice’, Sanjay Jadhav, Assistant
 Professor, Law, Mumbai University.
 2:30-2:40 p.m.—Discussant,Jagdish Chander, Associate Professor,
 Political Science, Hindu College, Delhi University.
 2:40-3:00 p.m.—Open House Discussion. 3:00-3:15 p.m. —Tea.
 3:15 p.m.—Panel II: Representation and Research
 3:15-3:35 p.m.—‘Rashtravadi Hindi Sahitya aur Drishtihin Samudaya
 (Nationalist Hindi Literature and Visually Impaired Community)’
 Mahendra Dhakad, Assistant Prof., Rajdhani College, Delhi University.
 3:35-3:55 p.m.—‘Quality of Life for Stroke Survivors’, Anuradha Gupta,
 DSSW, Delhi University.
 3:55-4:15 p.m.—‘Field work in Social Science Disability Research:
 Issues and Constraints’, P. Deepa, CPS, Jawaharlal Nehru University.
 4:15-4:25 p.m.—Discussant:Dr. Renu Addlakha, Centre for Women Studies,
 New Delhi.
 4:25-4:45 p.m.—Open House Discussion.
 4:45 p.m.—Panel III: Disability and Education: Issues and Challenges
 4:45-4:55 p.m.—Sambhavana’s advocacy initiatives for education: a
 report, Vikas Gupta, Assistant Prof.


 --
 Naresh Kumar
 Assistant Professor
 Department of History
 Kamala Nehru College
 (University of Delhi)


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Re: [AI] A Reader for the Visually Impaired

2011-12-01 Thread kakarla nageswaraiah
Yes, they have been doing it for the last five or six years.

On 12/1/11, rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,
 Greetings!
 I came across this very interesting information in the recent CBR Newsletter
 which I am pasting below. Could anyone throw some light on it?

 A reader for the visually impaired

 The Central Scientific Instruments Organization (CSIO), Chandigarh, has
 designed a reading machine for the visually impaired that will help them
 read books, letters, magazines and other documents that are not in Braille
 without the help of a third person.

 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/A-reader-for-the-visually-impaired/874927/


 With best wishes,
 Dr. A.Rambabu



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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Pranav Lal
Rahul,

You should be taking your own notes. Try the netbooks from Saksham. Do you
own the Plextalk player? If so, you can make audio only DAISY books on the
fly by recording what the teacher says. This may be a good way to start.

Look at people around you. Everyone requires help for something or another.
As for asking the teacher for notes, forget it. They may share them with you
but in an inaccessible format so your dependency increases. 
Pranav



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[AI] Exclusionary Politics of the RTE Act (Audio Lecture)

2011-12-01 Thread Vikas Gupta
Dear Friends,
Last month, an invitation was posted on this group by Naresh Kumar on
behalf of Sambhavana Disability Coloquium and Study Circle for a talk
on this topic to be delivered by myself. Many of you have shown
interest to listen the video of this lecture. I am herewith copying
the direct link of the same from the website of Sambhavana
Organization.

http://www.sambhavana.org/sites/default/files/sambhavana-data/disability-colloquium-and-study-circle/Exclusionary%20Politics%20of%20the%20Right%20to%20Education%20ACT%20By%20Vikas%20Gupta%20%285th%20Nov%202011%29.mp3


There is a lot that one can say about this act. I hope the learned
readership of this group will give me its expert views. I have
presented this lecture at many platforms; and in the light of their
suggestions, I am trying to finalize it as part of my larger work on
school education in India.

-- 
Vikas Gupta
Assistant Professor–University of Delhi;
Joint Secretary–Sambhavana Organization;
National Executive Member–All-India Forum for Right to Education (AIF-RTE);


Office: Department of History,
Faculty of Social Sciences,
University of Delhi ,
Delhi 110007, India.

Ph: +91-11-266659 (O.), +91-11-27662347 (R.)  +91-9818193875 (M.)
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Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again

2011-12-01 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA

it is still continued. here is the rule:

Concession on Postage for blind literature
Blind Literature packets are exempted from payment of postage (both inland 
and foreign) if sent by surface post. Air-mail charges are to be paid if 
packets are sent by air. According to the Rule 129 of the Post Office Guide, 
besides being exempted from the payment of postage, ' Blind Literature' 
packets are exempted from payment of

(I) Registration fee
(II) Fee for acknowledgement and
(III) Fee for attested copy of the receipt.

Rule 130 of the Post Office Guide defines the Contents and Conditions of 
posting of Blind Literature. According to this rule: Papers of any kind, 
periodicals and books printed in Braille or other special type for the use 
of the blind may be transmitted by post as 'Blind Literature' packets 
provided that they are posted in accordance with the below mentioned 
conditions. Plates bearing the characters of writing, sound records for the 
use of the blind, and discs, films, tapes and wires on which spoken message 
for the blind have been recorded, when sent by, or addressed to, an 
officially recognised institution for the blind, shall also be treated as 
'Blind Literature'.
(a) The packets shall consist only of articles specially impressed for the 
use of the blind, and shall not contain any communication either in writing 
or printed in ordinary type, except the title and table of contents of the 
book or periodical and any key to, or instruction for, the use of special 
type, or any enclosure except a level for the return of the packet.
(b) The packet shall bear on the outside the inscription 'Literature for the 
Blind' and the written or printed name and address of the sender.
(c) The packet shall be posted without a cover, or in a cover open at both 
ends, which can easily be removed for the purpose of examination.

(d) No 'Blind Literature' packet may weigh more than 7 kg.
(e) 'Blind Literature' packets are subject to the same limits of dimensions 
as printed papers.


Rule 131 of the of the Post Office Guide defines the penalty for breach of 
condition:
Should any of the conditions mentioned above be infringed, the packet 
(unless it is admissible as an ordinary packet) will be charged on delivery 
with letter or parcel postage, whichever may be less. The penalty for breach 
of the conditions in respect of foreign postage is specified under rule 307 
of the of the Post Office Guide. It states that:
'Blind Literature' packets which contain any note or document having the 
character of actual and personal correspondence, or packets that do not 
allow easy examination of the contents, or which contain postage stamps, 
form of pre payment whether obliterated or not or paper representing any 
value, or which infringe any of the foregoing conditions will not be 
forwarded, but will be returned to the sender and will be charged in on 
delivery with letter or parcel postage at the internal postage rate 
whichever is applicable. If the sender wishes to report the article after 
complying with the necessary conditions, he may do so. It is permissible in 
such cases to use the original wrapper, but the use of a fresh wrapper is 
preferable and is recommended.




- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM
Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again



Colleagues:
Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free 
matter for the blind rules had been changed.  I had attempted to send a 
package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India.  I 
had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune 
GPO.  At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked.
Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO 
and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free 
matter policy had been revoked for five years.  How then is it possible 
for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending 
them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been 
changed?


In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual 
government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it 
to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and 
policies.  The only response I received was an informal one from someone 
who said they regularly receive materials at home under the free matter 
provision.


Clearly, the Pune postal authorities are unequipped to read and interpret 
their own rules so someone else must do it for them.  I am asking once 
again for either the actual publications where these rules are outlined 
or, at the very least, a web site where I may download them myself. 
Kanchan, Rajesh, someone from NAB?  Someone else entirely?  Where can the 
rules be obtained?  And, how can I report this matter to the real 

Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again

2011-12-01 Thread Jean Parker

Bhawani:

Thanks very much for the info.  The most recent postal official claimed 
there was no more surface mail and therefore, the package could not be sent. 
Does anyone know anything about this claim?

Many thanks for all help,
Jean


- Original Message - 
From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com

To: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again



it is still continued. here is the rule:

Concession on Postage for blind literature
Blind Literature packets are exempted from payment of postage (both inland 
and foreign) if sent by surface post. Air-mail charges are to be paid if 
packets are sent by air. According to the Rule 129 of the Post Office 
Guide, besides being exempted from the payment of postage, ' Blind 
Literature' packets are exempted from payment of

(I) Registration fee
(II) Fee for acknowledgement and
(III) Fee for attested copy of the receipt.

Rule 130 of the Post Office Guide defines the Contents and Conditions of 
posting of Blind Literature. According to this rule: Papers of any kind, 
periodicals and books printed in Braille or other special type for the use 
of the blind may be transmitted by post as 'Blind Literature' packets 
provided that they are posted in accordance with the below mentioned 
conditions. Plates bearing the characters of writing, sound records for 
the use of the blind, and discs, films, tapes and wires on which spoken 
message for the blind have been recorded, when sent by, or addressed to, 
an officially recognised institution for the blind, shall also be treated 
as 'Blind Literature'.
(a) The packets shall consist only of articles specially impressed for the 
use of the blind, and shall not contain any communication either in 
writing or printed in ordinary type, except the title and table of 
contents of the book or periodical and any key to, or instruction for, the 
use of special type, or any enclosure except a level for the return of the 
packet.
(b) The packet shall bear on the outside the inscription 'Literature for 
the Blind' and the written or printed name and address of the sender.
(c) The packet shall be posted without a cover, or in a cover open at both 
ends, which can easily be removed for the purpose of examination.

(d) No 'Blind Literature' packet may weigh more than 7 kg.
(e) 'Blind Literature' packets are subject to the same limits of 
dimensions as printed papers.


Rule 131 of the of the Post Office Guide defines the penalty for breach of 
condition:
Should any of the conditions mentioned above be infringed, the packet 
(unless it is admissible as an ordinary packet) will be charged on 
delivery with letter or parcel postage, whichever may be less. The penalty 
for breach of the conditions in respect of foreign postage is specified 
under rule 307 of the of the Post Office Guide. It states that:
'Blind Literature' packets which contain any note or document having the 
character of actual and personal correspondence, or packets that do not 
allow easy examination of the contents, or which contain postage stamps, 
form of pre payment whether obliterated or not or paper representing any 
value, or which infringe any of the foregoing conditions will not be 
forwarded, but will be returned to the sender and will be charged in on 
delivery with letter or parcel postage at the internal postage rate 
whichever is applicable. If the sender wishes to report the article after 
complying with the necessary conditions, he may do so. It is permissible 
in such cases to use the original wrapper, but the use of a fresh wrapper 
is preferable and is recommended.




- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM
Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again



Colleagues:
Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free 
matter for the blind rules had been changed.  I had attempted to send a 
package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India.  I 
had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the 
Pune GPO.  At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked.
Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO 
and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free 
matter policy had been revoked for five years.  How then is it possible 
for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending 
them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been 
changed?


In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual 
government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it 
to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules 
and policies.  The only response I received was an informal one from 
someone who said they regularly 

Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again

2011-12-01 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
So the law is actually still on your side. Which does not necessarily
mean that Some ignorant Indian officials will accept it. If they
continue to turn a blind eye after you show the print out from the
above web page, then my suggestion is to write to the head post office
of your region. Please send the complain through registered post with
acknowledgement card attached. Also if my memory is correct, the
website that I posted before also has the link to register complains
online.

Vetri.

On 01/12/2011, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 it is still continued. here is the rule:

 Concession on Postage for blind literature
 Blind Literature packets are exempted from payment of postage (both inland
 and foreign) if sent by surface post. Air-mail charges are to be paid if
 packets are sent by air. According to the Rule 129 of the Post Office Guide,
 besides being exempted from the payment of postage, ' Blind Literature'
 packets are exempted from payment of
 (I) Registration fee
 (II) Fee for acknowledgement and
 (III) Fee for attested copy of the receipt.

 Rule 130 of the Post Office Guide defines the Contents and Conditions of
 posting of Blind Literature. According to this rule: Papers of any kind,
 periodicals and books printed in Braille or other special type for the use
 of the blind may be transmitted by post as 'Blind Literature' packets
 provided that they are posted in accordance with the below mentioned
 conditions. Plates bearing the characters of writing, sound records for the
 use of the blind, and discs, films, tapes and wires on which spoken message
 for the blind have been recorded, when sent by, or addressed to, an
 officially recognised institution for the blind, shall also be treated as
 'Blind Literature'.
 (a) The packets shall consist only of articles specially impressed for the
 use of the blind, and shall not contain any communication either in writing
 or printed in ordinary type, except the title and table of contents of the
 book or periodical and any key to, or instruction for, the use of special
 type, or any enclosure except a level for the return of the packet.
 (b) The packet shall bear on the outside the inscription 'Literature for the
 Blind' and the written or printed name and address of the sender.
 (c) The packet shall be posted without a cover, or in a cover open at both
 ends, which can easily be removed for the purpose of examination.
 (d) No 'Blind Literature' packet may weigh more than 7 kg.
 (e) 'Blind Literature' packets are subject to the same limits of dimensions
 as printed papers.

 Rule 131 of the of the Post Office Guide defines the penalty for breach of
 condition:
 Should any of the conditions mentioned above be infringed, the packet
 (unless it is admissible as an ordinary packet) will be charged on delivery
 with letter or parcel postage, whichever may be less. The penalty for breach
 of the conditions in respect of foreign postage is specified under rule 307
 of the of the Post Office Guide. It states that:
 'Blind Literature' packets which contain any note or document having the
 character of actual and personal correspondence, or packets that do not
 allow easy examination of the contents, or which contain postage stamps,
 form of pre payment whether obliterated or not or paper representing any
 value, or which infringe any of the foregoing conditions will not be
 forwarded, but will be returned to the sender and will be charged in on
 delivery with letter or parcel postage at the internal postage rate
 whichever is applicable. If the sender wishes to report the article after
 complying with the necessary conditions, he may do so. It is permissible in
 such cases to use the original wrapper, but the use of a fresh wrapper is
 preferable and is recommended.



 - Original Message -
 From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:40 PM
 Subject: [AI] problem sending free matter again


 Colleagues:
 Several weeks ago I wrote to this list to inquire whether India's free
 matter for the blind rules had been changed.  I had attempted to send a
 package containing Braille and recorded material to the US from India.  I
 had tried at both the Kondhwa post office in Pune as well as from the Pune

 GPO.  At that time I was told the free matter rule had been revoked.
 Earlier this week, a friend attempted to send the box from the Pune GPO
 and was told by someone claiming authority in such things, that the free
 matter policy had been revoked for five years.  How then is it possible
 for those of us who receive talking books from the US to continue sending
 them back and forth to the US with no interference if the rules have been
 changed?

 In my original posting, I asked if someone could provide the actual
 government circular containing the free matter provision so I may show it
 to the postal authorities in Pune and instruct them in their own rules and

 policies.  

Re: [AI] (no subject)

2011-12-01 Thread Alla rakhi
There are some people on this list who themselves would use everything
pirated and cracked and keep hunting for it because they can never
afford to buy the licensed stuff but the irony is, they pretend as if
they cannot bear even to hear or read such word let alone  using
it.why, because they don't have much else at hand to do? Such bloody
hypocretes should not be on this list in the first place. Preach what
you practise. I'm myself against piracy but i'm also aware of the
ground reality.

On 12/1/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is a very trickey subject and we cannot impose a blancket piracy on
 it for the following reasons. Some owners creating PDF files in India
 don't give a dam about accesibility and in that context breaking the
 password is the only way of accessing it. It's like scanning a copy
 righted material. But if a file is password protected for privacy
 reasons, then that's a hole another issue. There are two types of
 documents that we can distinguish here. Some documents are simply
 secured, but text is visible on the PDF viewer. It's done in order to
 avoid modifications. In that situation, there is nothing wrong in
 bypassing password protection for accesibility. However some documents
 like Pay stuff can't be opened even with pdf viewer without the
 password and the text will not be visible. So in that situation it is
 unlawful to break the password. Again if you are the sole owner of
 that file and the creater of the PDF do not consider your
 accesibility, then he/she can and should be challenged under
 accesibility.

 Vetri.

 On 01/12/2011, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 Then you should speak few words concerning the restricted PDF files.  due
 to
 accessibility issue security restriction has to be removed according to
 somebody.  is it OK if we modify the owner's content for the sake of
 accessibility?
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:11 PM
 Subject: [AI] (no subject)


 Hello

 I am indeed following this thread closely.

 I shall intervene when situation warrents it, not otherwise.

 Harish Kotian
 Moderator.

 From: Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Help Required on Opening Secured PDF File


 I don't no why moderator sits silently in such case.  only he opposes
 when
 the cracs are discussed.  if moderator is unaware of such things, then
 why
 do we require  such rules and conducts?





 
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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Pamnani
Rahul, get rid of him immediately. Dont even wait for next February or 
March.
You have heard from everyone and you agree so take theplunge. Dont waste 
time.

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising



Vamshi Sir,

No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does
sit at another place in the class to take notes for me.
However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop
or something similar are actually quite executable.
In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those
lines after completing 12th.
Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college.
I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes.

But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these
things, is my attitude.
I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by
asking that person to help me.
The only good thing is that  I can at least openly say that these are
the problems that I have.


On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:

Rahul,

Now, this is something serious.  Are you saying your sighted guide
sits with you in the class and takes down the notes?  This is not
good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point
of view.
You write your mails without any mistakes.  So, as others advised, Use
portable devices for your academics.  Once you take a laptop with Jaws
installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be
getting.


On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes?

Or record them?
Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the
blackboard, right?
We have to press for it as it  is the reasonable accommodation in
education
for blind...

Anyway, all through  my educational career, I hardly found notes given 
by

teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never
bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced  madams
did
do it on their own...



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

Yeah, that is a good idea.
Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
 Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
only.
  A driver is more than enough.
But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
taught in the class.

On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

Good Rahul.
My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
escort
if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy 
concerns.

In your case, escort is available/affordable.
But there are privacy concerns.

However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
separate
sighted escort.
Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not
such
a
big issue.
Friends and people around are sufficient.

So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course 
reduced

in
your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul 
Bajaj

Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

Rajesh Sir,

I completely agree with you.
In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
escort.

It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
I and my friends were going to meet.
I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
in the car till then.

On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
different place.

Am I doing enough?
Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of
privacy?

BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
desirability of escorts? :)





On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:

Ravindra Sir,

I really appreciate your suggestions.
However, it would be wrong to assert that I'm concentrating on
socialising at the cost of my studies.
 In fact, my parents and others who 

Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Ajay Minocha
Rahul
I don't have any special recorder
but I use my phone to record lectures


On 12/1/11, Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rahul, get rid of him immediately. Dont even wait for next February or
 March.
 You have heard from everyone and you agree so take theplunge. Dont waste
 time.
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising


 Vamshi Sir,

 No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does
 sit at another place in the class to take notes for me.
 However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop
 or something similar are actually quite executable.
 In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those
 lines after completing 12th.
 Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college.
 I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes.

 But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these
 things, is my attitude.
 I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by
 asking that person to help me.
 The only good thing is that  I can at least openly say that these are
 the problems that I have.


 On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rahul,

 Now, this is something serious.  Are you saying your sighted guide
 sits with you in the class and takes down the notes?  This is not
 good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point
 of view.
 You write your mails without any mistakes.  So, as others advised, Use
 portable devices for your academics.  Once you take a laptop with Jaws
 installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be
 getting.


 On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes?

 Or record them?
 Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the
 blackboard, right?
 We have to press for it as it  is the reasonable accommodation in
 education
 for blind...

 Anyway, all through  my educational career, I hardly found notes given
 by
 teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never
 bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced  madams
 did
 do it on their own...



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Yeah, that is a good idea.
 Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
  Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
 only.
   A driver is more than enough.
 But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
 taught in the class.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
 escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy
 concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
 separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not
 such
 a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course
 reduced
 in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul
 Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Rajesh Sir,

 I completely agree with you.
 In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
 escort.

 It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
 don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
 Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
 birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
 I and my friends were going to meet.
 I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
 in the car till then.

 On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
 my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
 different place.

 Am I doing enough?
 Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of
 privacy?

 BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
 desirability of escorts? :)





 On 01/12/2011, Rahul 

Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-12-01 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Well, about asking for help I would say:
Everybody does it and we because are disabled, may ask for more at times.
There is no guilt in it.
Only thing is that our major life activities should not be totally dependent on 
such help, which more often than not become so dependent that we fail to live 
our life as we would like to live.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:07 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

Vamshi Sir,

No, the sighted guide doesn't actually sit with me, but, yes, he does
sit at another place in the class to take notes for me.
However, the suggestions that you all have given about using a laptop
or something similar are actually quite executable.
In fact, I have myself been thinking about doing something along those
lines after completing 12th.
Anyway, they don't really give you a lot of stuff to write in college.
I can also ask the teachers to give me a copy of their own notes.

But the main thing that I need to change, if I wish to do these
things, is my attitude.
I have this feeling that I might unnecessarily bother someone by
asking that person to help me.
The only good thing is that  I can at least openly say that these are
the problems that I have.


On 01/12/2011, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rahul,

 Now, this is something serious.  Are you saying your sighted guide
 sits with you in the class and takes down the notes?  This is not
 good, not just for your academics, but also from the socialising point
 of view.
 You write your mails without any mistakes.  So, as others advised, Use
 portable devices for your academics.  Once you take a laptop with Jaws
 installed and use it in your class, see how many friends you will be
 getting.


 On 12/1/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Why don't you use the laptop to take down the notes?

 Or record them?
 Maybe, because the teachers don't vocalize all that they write on the
 blackboard, right?
 We have to press for it as it  is the reasonable accommodation in
 education
 for blind...

 Anyway, all through  my educational career, I hardly found notes given by
 teachers in the classroom worth noting down or preserving, and so never
 bothered to ask them to vocalize, even though some sweet-voiced  madams
 did
 do it on their own...



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:46 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Yeah, that is a good idea.
 Even I was thinking that I should do that after 12th.
  Usually, when the sighted escort is not available, I go with my driver
 only.
   A driver is more than enough.
 But the only problem is that I need someone to note down what is
 taught in the class.

 On 01/12/2011, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Good Rahul.
 My theory about escorts says that totally blind person should opt for
 escort
 if the escort is available, affordable and there are no privacy concerns.
 In your case, escort is available/affordable.
 But there are privacy concerns.

 However, Rahul, when you have a driver, I don't think you require a
 separate
 sighted escort.
 Driver can drop you wherever you wish and then mobility inside is not
 such
 a
 big issue.
 Friends and people around are sufficient.

 So, with a driver, I do not think you need a separate escort.

 Learning basic handling of cane etc. is of course called for.
 I advocate escorts mainly for outside mobility which is of course reduced
 in
 your case, since you use a private transport with a fixed driver.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

 Rajesh Sir,

 I completely agree with you.
 In fact, even I think that privacy can be an issue when one is with an
 escort.

 It is for this reason that I always try to ensure that my friends
 don't feel like they're being constantly scrutinized by an outsider.
 Once, when a very good sighted friend of mine had called me for his
 birthday party, I asked my sighted guide to drop me to the place where
 I and my friends were going to meet.
 I told him that I would call him after the party and asked him to wait
 in the car till then.

 On another occasion, when me and my friends went for a movie, I asked
 my sighted guide to drop me to my seat and to go and sit at a
 different place.

 Am I doing enough?
 Is there anything else that you can suggest to deal with this issue of
 privacy?

 BTW, which are the other requirements of your theory about
 desirability of escorts? :)





 On 01/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj 

[AI] book required.

2011-12-01 Thread Krishnan
dear accessindians 
i would like to get   the soft copy of the book
rights of persons with disabilities the indian law institute edited by s.k 
verma director , ili s.c srivastava research professor, ili. if you send the  
same i will be much thankful.   
krishnan m moothimoola.
assistant professor  political science law college calicut
email: moothimo...@gmail.com
ph: 09495547984.
 

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[AI] Fw: News on Anandabazar Patrika on 2.12.11

2011-12-01 Thread Debojyoti Roy


--- On Fri, 2/12/11, Debojyoti Roy nip_...@yahoo.co.in wrote:


From: Debojyoti Roy nip_...@yahoo.co.in
Subject: News on Anandabazar Patrika on 2.12.11
To: debajyotiro...@gmail.com, ANITA ROY roy.aneet...@gmail.com
Date: Friday, 2 December, 2011, 10:25 AM







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[AI] 2,000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms

2011-12-01 Thread Renuka Warriar
Source: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2679583.ece
Bangalore, December 2, 2011
2,000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Staff Reporter


Initiative to facilitate recruitment of one lakh such people in five years
For inclusive growth: (From left) Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation;
Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM; and Ajay Kela, president and CEO of
Wadhwani Foundation, addressing presspersons in Bangalore on Thursday.
For inclusive growth: (From left) Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation;
Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM; and Ajay Kela, president and CEO of
Wadhwani Foundation, addressing presspersons in Bangalore on Thursday.

NASSCOM Foundation and the Wadhwani Foundation have come together with
the aim of placing 2,000 young people with disabilities in IT and BPO
companies across the country within the next two years.

This will be the first step in their “accessibility initiative” to
facilitate the recruitment of one lakh people with disabilities in the
next five years, said Ajay Kela, president and CEO of Wadhwani
Foundation.

He added that the initiative was seen as a business value proposition
and not as part of corporate social responsibility. Mr. Kela added
that India had a talent pool of two to three million people with
disabilities.

Talent pool

“Corporate India can derive better business value in terms of higher
productivity, reduced attrition and lowered training costs by
employing this proven and tenacious talent pool,” he said.

The average employment rate of people with disabilities in the private
sector is only 0.28 per and in the public sector it is 0.54 per cent,
although the proportion of such people in the country exceeds 6 per
cent.

Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation, said that accessibility was not
just about making the workplace physically accessible for a person in
wheelchair; it is about creating an “inclusive ecosystem”.

The Accessibility Initiative is founded on a four-fold approach: a
leadership commitment, robust policies, capability building, and
creating an enabling culture in the organisation.

“The aim is to reach every level within an organisation from the top
leadership to middle management to the average employee in order to
bring about change in policy, change practices and a change in the
behaviour and mindset of the average employee towards disability,” Ms.
Soni said.

Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM, said that the foundation approached
the issue as a business imperative as well as a “rights-based” agenda.

“We realised the importance of broadening the diversity agenda to
include people with disabilities.”

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[AI] Gender discrimination haunts the visually challenged too

2011-12-01 Thread Renuka Warriar
Source: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2679952.ece

CHENNAI, December 2, 2011
Gender discrimination haunts the visually challenged too
Vasudha Venugopal


Usha Thiruvengadam, a trained Carnatic vocalist and violin player, has
been searching for a job in government-run schools as a music teacher
for the past five years. Her struggle for a job despite her disability
has earned her a great deal of respect from many of her friends. They
also note: “Her husband did not marry her for the assistance. He takes
her everywhere.”

For many other visually challenged women, trusting the spouse,
siblings and society is getting increasingly difficult. “I get plenty
of cases of women abandoned by their husbands. Even for many families,
a visually challenged girl is a liability who needs to be married off
as soon as possible. There is very little focus on education,” said
N.S. Venkataraman, trustee, Nandini Voice for the Deprived, at a
discussion recently.

The cases of men leaving their wives gain more significance in the
context of the State government's scheme under which Rs.20,000 is
given to the person without any disability who marries a visually
challenged person. “There are many broken marriages like that, which
need to be looked into,” added Mr. Venkataraman.

“Instead of allowance, one of them can be given job in government
according to the merit. This will ensure that such marriages remain
stable,” suggested a participant.

It was pouring, but that did not deter the 22 women with visual
disability from far-flung areas such as Avadi, Tiruvallur and
Maduravoyal from making it to the meeting, which, as one of the
participants described it, was one of the few where they get to speak
about their problems. Banks, said most of the women, are where they
faced many problems. “Nationalised banks have very considerate rules,
but they are not being implemented,” said T. Meenakshi, a school
teacher. “Bank managers insist that someone accompany us all the
time,” she said.

Availing oneself of loans for starting entrepreneurial activity is
always a Herculean task, but even procuring an ATM card is difficult.
Many banks have not installed mandatory talking ATMs and so they deny
us the card facility, she said. “The situation worsens when the bank
managers refuse to meet us and insist that we should talk to clerical
staff, who, in turn, say that they do not have the necessary
authority,” she added.

“We do not want sympathy. We want only understanding and a place to
live with dignity,” said the women. Denial of hostel rooms has
increased travel time for many of these women. This has increased the
possibility of instances of molestation. “Many women face it every
day, in buses, on streets, but they do not talk about it because they
are never heard,” said Mr. Venkataraman.

“Even the Disability Advisory Committee has only male representatives.
,” said Parameswari, a student of Ethiraj College for Women.

Shortage of Braille books in schools and colleges, reluctance of the
private sector to employ persons with disability and need for
procedural transparency in the filling of government jobs were
highlighted by these women. “The announcements in railway and bus
stations are made only a few minutes before the arrival or the
departure of the train or bus. A guidance counter for visually
challenged persons will be of great help,” said Ms.Parameswari.

“It is the general lack of respect for us in the society that concerns
us the most,” said Shyamala, a student of Quaid-E-Millath Government
College for Women.

After the debate, as the women waded through the flooded streets of
Besant Nagar, gesturing at every passing car to stop, it was the
indifference of those around that stood out the most. “Very few help,
especially when we need it the most,” said Ms. Shyamala.

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Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP

2011-12-01 Thread ekinath ekinath
Thanks very much for suggestions specially to Jaison,

With Jaison's detailed sharing i think i should not invest my time in
even visiting this place. However, how has been your experience with
Homeopathy?

Has it helped you to control deterioration or even has enhanced the sight?

Attn Vamshi,

Whats your view about it
On 12/2/11, jaison bellarmine jaisonay...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hai friend,
 I am residing near the Sreedhariyam hospital. I am a victim of RP. For
 the last 9 years, I am away from print medium. I had undergone a
 treatment for 6 months under the chief doctor of the above said
 hospital Dr.NPP Namboothiri. Before that from 92 to 96 I was taking
 homeo medicine and my vision was stable thereafter. The main problem i
 faced at that time was my night blindness. In 98 I was taken to Dr.
 Namboothiri by one of my distant relative. After the six month
 treatment my vision during the day time started decreasing and I was
 asked to take a course of treatment as an inpatient of the hospital.
 Mean while I met a person Sunny George from panakkapalam near Pala in
 Kottayam district of Kerala. When he started treatment he had only one
 problem and it was the difficulty he felt when light from an
 approaching vehicle fall in to his eyes. He was a driver in KSRTC.
 After the treatment doctor assured him that his vision will not
 deteriorate and that he can undertake any job which he could do in
 good light condition. He joined in Maruthi service center in Delhi and
 was dispelled from the center after one and a half year as he was not
 able to see nut and bolt!
 Hearing this experience I decided to stop the treatment. Later in 2001
 I underwent a treatment in another hospital near Thodupuzha in Kerala
 and I gained verymuch in my vision. But after completing the first
 course of treatment late in the year a lost my ability to read text.
 Then I again turned to Homeopathic treatment and vision is not
 deteriorating thereafter. For the last 9 years my vision is 2/60.
 I know about 10 persons who underwent treatment in Sreedhariyam and
 about 20 persons who underwent treatment in the hospital near
 Thodupuzha. None of them has gained distinguishable visual acuity and
 had some improvement only in associated problems like head ache and so
 on. I haven’t met a single person who have considerable vision
 improvement. Some experiences were given by the hospital through print
 media. I don’t find it reliable. This sharing is not to hurt any one
 but to show my anger against the exploitation of hospitals under the
 name “Ayurveda”. I don’t like to say about the cost of treatment in
 these hospitals.
 Sorry for this long mail. I just wanted to give a clear picture of the
 situation as I experienced and knew. Now it is up to you to decide.
 My comment is only about treatment of cronic situations RP and the
 diseases associated with nervous disorders. Even in the treatmet of
 congenital cateract, I have found this hospital, a failure.
 With regards
 Jaison Bellarmine.

 On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ekinath,

 Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any
 medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa.  There is no scientific
 validity for any of these treatments.
 However some patients have reported some success with some of these
 treatments.  But there is no reason for either success or failure of
 these medicines.

 I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment
 at Sredheriyam .  Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP
 have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of
 the disease.  again, we don't know whether this is because of the
 treatment or due to the nature of the disease.  For example, I
 couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year,
 and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated.  Had I been
 treated by these medicines at my 10th year,  I would have claimed that
 my vision has remained stable for 10 years, which has happened even
 without the treatment.

 I am not discouraging anyone from going to alternative forms of
 medicines.  My only contention is that a treatment should be
 scientifically validated before being put to commercial use.

 Treatments like bionic eye, gene therapy, stem cell therapy are on the
 way and may be available in the near future, hopefully.  We have
 waited for a long time, let's keep our cool for some more time.

 For more on retinal disorders, visit

 www.retinaindia.org

 Once you register under the join us page, you can send any medical
 queries you have to the e-mail ID
 doc...@retinaindia.org

 Medical team of Retina India will get back to you within a day or two.


 On 12/1/11, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi ,
 yes i visited there for 3 times and the name is shreedheriyam . it is
 located in kothatukulam near arnakulam .
 it is the best ayurvedic treatment centre . it gives best results .
 the treatment of this hospital has restored 

Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP

2011-12-01 Thread Phen Varghese
Dear friend,

I had also gone through different treatments.
I even had gone to USA to find some treatments.
Not a single medication as been successful.
There are many treatments but they have not been successful.
Even I had gone to Sree Dharayam Koothatukulam.
No use.
I had partial sight till the age of 16 after that it started decreasing.
Now I am totally blind.
It is better to sit with out any treatment unless the medical science
brings something which will be successful.
Let us all pray to God for a better life.
Till now he has given the ways to use the computer with different
screen reading softwares.
So let's thank God for all the things and the tallents which he has
given to me and to you all.
Let's keep on praying.

With regards,

Phen Varghese
Skype ID:phen.varghese
Email ID:phenvargh...@gmail.com
Facebook id:phenvargh...@gmail.com


On 12/2/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks very much for suggestions specially to Jaison,

 With Jaison's detailed sharing i think i should not invest my time in
 even visiting this place. However, how has been your experience with
 Homeopathy?

 Has it helped you to control deterioration or even has enhanced the sight?

 Attn Vamshi,

 Whats your view about it
 On 12/2/11, jaison bellarmine jaisonay...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hai friend,
 I am residing near the Sreedhariyam hospital. I am a victim of RP. For
 the last 9 years, I am away from print medium. I had undergone a
 treatment for 6 months under the chief doctor of the above said
 hospital Dr.NPP Namboothiri. Before that from 92 to 96 I was taking
 homeo medicine and my vision was stable thereafter. The main problem i
 faced at that time was my night blindness. In 98 I was taken to Dr.
 Namboothiri by one of my distant relative. After the six month
 treatment my vision during the day time started decreasing and I was
 asked to take a course of treatment as an inpatient of the hospital.
 Mean while I met a person Sunny George from panakkapalam near Pala in
 Kottayam district of Kerala. When he started treatment he had only one
 problem and it was the difficulty he felt when light from an
 approaching vehicle fall in to his eyes. He was a driver in KSRTC.
 After the treatment doctor assured him that his vision will not
 deteriorate and that he can undertake any job which he could do in
 good light condition. He joined in Maruthi service center in Delhi and
 was dispelled from the center after one and a half year as he was not
 able to see nut and bolt!
 Hearing this experience I decided to stop the treatment. Later in 2001
 I underwent a treatment in another hospital near Thodupuzha in Kerala
 and I gained verymuch in my vision. But after completing the first
 course of treatment late in the year a lost my ability to read text.
 Then I again turned to Homeopathic treatment and vision is not
 deteriorating thereafter. For the last 9 years my vision is 2/60.
 I know about 10 persons who underwent treatment in Sreedhariyam and
 about 20 persons who underwent treatment in the hospital near
 Thodupuzha. None of them has gained distinguishable visual acuity and
 had some improvement only in associated problems like head ache and so
 on. I haven’t met a single person who have considerable vision
 improvement. Some experiences were given by the hospital through print
 media. I don’t find it reliable. This sharing is not to hurt any one
 but to show my anger against the exploitation of hospitals under the
 name “Ayurveda”. I don’t like to say about the cost of treatment in
 these hospitals.
 Sorry for this long mail. I just wanted to give a clear picture of the
 situation as I experienced and knew. Now it is up to you to decide.
 My comment is only about treatment of cronic situations RP and the
 diseases associated with nervous disorders. Even in the treatmet of
 congenital cateract, I have found this hospital, a failure.
 With regards
 Jaison Bellarmine.

 On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ekinath,

 Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any
 medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa.  There is no scientific
 validity for any of these treatments.
 However some patients have reported some success with some of these
 treatments.  But there is no reason for either success or failure of
 these medicines.

 I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment
 at Sredheriyam .  Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP
 have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of
 the disease.  again, we don't know whether this is because of the
 treatment or due to the nature of the disease.  For example, I
 couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year,
 and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated.  Had I been
 treated by these medicines at my 10th year,  I would have claimed that
 my vision has remained stable for 10 years, which has happened even
 without the treatment.

 I am not discouraging anyone from 

Re: [AI] Query upon Ayurvedic treatment for RP

2011-12-01 Thread jaison bellarmine
Hai friend, with regard to homeopathic I haven't gained any
considerable vision. But I have just could remove some associated
problems like head ache, flashes before the eyes, irritation when we
try to focuss on an object, etc. Another effect is that I am not
experiencing any decrease in my vision after starting the homeo
treatment. But as Mr.Vamshi said, I am not sure whether it is the
effect of the treatment or not. If you are going for homeo treatment
make sure that the doctor is a trainned and able one. Because as in
the case of Ayurveda there are many who uses homeopathi to exploit the
people. Afew years back there was a person who claimed to be a homeo
doctor and treated Asthma with steroids!!! So consult a recognised
doctor in a recognised hospital. Go for doctors who has registration
in national council of homeo pathic medicine. I don't remember the
exact name of the council, The short form of the council is some thing
like HIMS.
With regards
Jaison Bellarmine.


On 12/2/11, ekinath ekinath ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks very much for suggestions specially to Jaison,

 With Jaison's detailed sharing i think i should not invest my time in
 even visiting this place. However, how has been your experience with
 Homeopathy?

 Has it helped you to control deterioration or even has enhanced the sight?

 Attn Vamshi,

 Whats your view about it
 On 12/2/11, jaison bellarmine jaisonay...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hai friend,
 I am residing near the Sreedhariyam hospital. I am a victim of RP. For
 the last 9 years, I am away from print medium. I had undergone a
 treatment for 6 months under the chief doctor of the above said
 hospital Dr.NPP Namboothiri. Before that from 92 to 96 I was taking
 homeo medicine and my vision was stable thereafter. The main problem i
 faced at that time was my night blindness. In 98 I was taken to Dr.
 Namboothiri by one of my distant relative. After the six month
 treatment my vision during the day time started decreasing and I was
 asked to take a course of treatment as an inpatient of the hospital.
 Mean while I met a person Sunny George from panakkapalam near Pala in
 Kottayam district of Kerala. When he started treatment he had only one
 problem and it was the difficulty he felt when light from an
 approaching vehicle fall in to his eyes. He was a driver in KSRTC.
 After the treatment doctor assured him that his vision will not
 deteriorate and that he can undertake any job which he could do in
 good light condition. He joined in Maruthi service center in Delhi and
 was dispelled from the center after one and a half year as he was not
 able to see nut and bolt!
 Hearing this experience I decided to stop the treatment. Later in 2001
 I underwent a treatment in another hospital near Thodupuzha in Kerala
 and I gained verymuch in my vision. But after completing the first
 course of treatment late in the year a lost my ability to read text.
 Then I again turned to Homeopathic treatment and vision is not
 deteriorating thereafter. For the last 9 years my vision is 2/60.
 I know about 10 persons who underwent treatment in Sreedhariyam and
 about 20 persons who underwent treatment in the hospital near
 Thodupuzha. None of them has gained distinguishable visual acuity and
 had some improvement only in associated problems like head ache and so
 on. I haven’t met a single person who have considerable vision
 improvement. Some experiences were given by the hospital through print
 media. I don’t find it reliable. This sharing is not to hurt any one
 but to show my anger against the exploitation of hospitals under the
 name “Ayurveda”. I don’t like to say about the cost of treatment in
 these hospitals.
 Sorry for this long mail. I just wanted to give a clear picture of the
 situation as I experienced and knew. Now it is up to you to decide.
 My comment is only about treatment of cronic situations RP and the
 diseases associated with nervous disorders. Even in the treatmet of
 congenital cateract, I have found this hospital, a failure.
 With regards
 Jaison Bellarmine.

 On 12/1/11, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ekinath,

 Please note that no alternative form of medicine is approved by any
 medical board for Ritinitis Pigmentosa.  There is no scientific
 validity for any of these treatments.
 However some patients have reported some success with some of these
 treatments.  But there is no reason for either success or failure of
 these medicines.

 I have gathered opinions of many people who have underwent treatment
 at Sredheriyam .  Usually patients at the preliminary stages of RP
 have found it successful than those who are in the advanced stage of
 the disease.  again, we don't know whether this is because of the
 treatment or due to the nature of the disease.  For example, I
 couldn't perceive any deterioration in my vision till my 20th year,
 and it's only after that my vision has deteriorated.  Had I been
 treated by these medicines at my 10th year,  I would have claimed that

[AI] About Unis, Linux and Tantem.

2011-12-01 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Hello,

One of our friends is working at Wipro. She has to work in Oracle in linux and 
unix environment. Does Orca support this type of situation? If not, what is the 
alternative for unix and particularly for oracle for linux and unix?

She also needs to work on remote desktop. Jaws tandem support remode desktop 
operation. But it needs extra expense. Does NVDA support remode desktop?


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
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Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms

2011-12-01 Thread Mujtaba Merchant
Hello Renuka,

Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a lot of 
scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do not 
understand why they have taken so much time to realise the potential of 
employing the disabled? This is something that could have been forseen. If the 
disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or career opportunities, it 
would make it easier for the employers to transition such members on board 
their staff. However, this is great news and I hope they will action it faster 
than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to implement those 500 ATM's across 
India for the disabled, I think that thought went down the bin after their  day 
ended with the press. Everyone gives us great hopes and encouragement but what 
is actioned after that??

Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many who 
feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly.

Mujtaba Merchant

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Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again

2011-12-01 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Hi,
The REVISED FOREIGN SURFACE POSTAGE RATES APPLICABLE TO ALL FOREIGN COUNTRIES 
as given on their site still shows it as exempt from postage; though the 
revision date is not mentioned.
Check http://www.indiapost.gov.in/Foreign_Postage_Rates.htm.

The Postal guide which was shared on AccessIndia sometime ago was not by us, 
but as a reply to our query, Vikas Kapoor shared the link. It was part 1 of the 
postal guide.
Part 1 of the Postal guide deals with Inland post, and part 2 deals with 
foreign post. Part 1 is available for download from their website in pdf 
format, but apparently part 2 is not there.

Jean, try to quote the above link if you can talk to some higher official. May 
be take a print of the same to show it to them.

Let us know if this helps,

regards,

Pranay Gadodia | Programme Manager
Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource for living a fuller life with vision loss
C/o Score Foundation, 17/107, Basement, Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4, New Delhi 
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- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com
To: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com; 
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again


Bhawani:

Thanks very much for the info.  The most recent postal official claimed 
there was no more surface mail and therefore, the package could not be sent. 
Does anyone know anything about this claim?
Many thanks for all help,
Jean


- Original Message - 
From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] problem sending free matter again


 it is still continued. here is the rule:

 Concession on Postage for blind literature
 Blind Literature packets are exempted from payment of postage (both inland 
 and foreign) if sent by surface post. Air-mail charges are to be paid if 
 packets are sent by air. According to the Rule 129 of the Post Office 
 Guide, besides being exempted from the payment of postage, ' Blind 
 Literature' packets are exempted from payment of
 (I) Registration fee
 (II) Fee for acknowledgement and
 (III) Fee for attested copy of the receipt.

 Rule 130 of the Post Office Guide defines the Contents and Conditions of 
 posting of Blind Literature. According to this rule: Papers of any kind, 
 periodicals and books printed in Braille or other special type for the use 
 of the blind may be transmitted by post as 'Blind Literature' packets 
 provided that they are posted in accordance with the below mentioned 
 conditions. Plates bearing the characters of writing, sound records for 
 the use of the blind, and discs, films, tapes and wires on which spoken 
 message for the blind have been recorded, when sent by, or addressed to, 
 an officially recognised institution for the blind, shall also be treated 
 as 'Blind Literature'.
 (a) The packets shall consist only of articles specially impressed for the 
 use of the blind, and shall not contain any communication either in 
 writing or printed in ordinary type, except the title and table of 
 contents of the book or periodical and any key to, or instruction for, the 
 use of special type, or any enclosure except a level for the return of the 
 packet.
 (b) The packet shall bear on the outside the inscription 'Literature for 
 the Blind' and the written or printed name and address of the sender.
 (c) The packet shall be posted without a cover, or in a cover open at both 
 ends, which can easily be removed for the purpose of examination.
 (d) No 'Blind Literature' packet may weigh more than 7 kg.
 (e) 'Blind Literature' packets are subject to the same limits of 
 dimensions as printed papers.

 Rule 131 of the of the Post Office Guide defines the penalty for breach of 
 condition:
 Should any of the conditions mentioned above be infringed, the packet 
 (unless it is admissible as an ordinary packet) will be charged on 
 delivery with letter or parcel postage, whichever may be less. The penalty 
 for breach of the conditions in respect of foreign postage is specified 
 under rule 307 of the of the Post Office Guide. It states that:
 'Blind Literature' packets which contain any note or document having the 
 character of actual and personal correspondence, or packets that do not 
 allow easy examination of the contents, or which contain postage stamps, 
 form of pre payment whether obliterated or not or paper representing any 
 value, or which infringe any of the foregoing conditions will not be 
 forwarded, but will be returned to the sender and will be charged in on 
 delivery with letter or parcel postage at the internal postage rate 
 whichever is applicable. If the sender wishes to report the article after 
 complying with the necessary