[AI] FW: Latest notification on additional banking services to disabled

[Kotian, H P]

Hi

I suppose, the issue is using thumb impression and not signature as this would 
not apply in this case.
Witness, can be anyone and not someone you bring alone. It can also be a staff 
and there is no repercussion to the witness. At any time there are plenty of 
customers who can be requested for it.


I don't think this should be a big problem. It makes sense to learn to sign. I 
would really see more an irritant than a problem really. Insistence of 2 
witness is not really unreasonable as 1 can be managed to a fraudulent 
transaction compared to two.

Harish.

-Original Message-
From: Satguru Rathi [mailto:tarannumra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:33 PM
To: Kotian, H P 
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Latest notification on additional banking services to 
disabled

Dear Harish sir and other learned members,


As per the point no. 2 (E), Additional Facilities to visually impaired 
customers Banks are advised that the facilities provided to 
sick/old/incapacitated persons vide Paragraph 9 of our Master Circular
DBR.No.Leg.BC.21/09.07.006/2015-16 dated July 1, 2015 on Customer Service in 
Banks (regarding operations of accounts through identification of thumb/toe 
impression/mark by two independent witnesses and authorising a person who would 
withdraw the amount on behalf of such
customers) shall also be extended to the visually impaired customers.

Now, this is leading to denial of withdrawl for many blind people who do not 
have two people as witnesses. PNB, for instance, has come up with their own 
circular where a visually impaired person is required to produce two witnesses 
to withdraw money. A person in Haryana was actually denied from withdrawing the 
money as he didn't have any witness to sign.


What do you suggest?


With best regards,
Satguru
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later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."

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On 11/10/2017 9:31 AM, Kotian, H P wrote:
>
> All
> For information.
> Harish Kotian
>
>
> http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/notification/PDFs/NOTI89F9DD47A9F3FA44
> 0E94C254135F95E728.PDF NOTI89F9DD47A9F3FA440E94C254135F95E728.pdf
> RBI/2017-18/89
> DBR.No.Leg.BC.96/09.07.005/2017-18 November 9, 2017 All Scheduled Commercial 
> Banks (including RRBs) All Small Finance Banks and Payments Banks Dear Sir/ 
> Madam Statement on Developmental and Regulatory Policies - October 4, 2017- 
> Banking Facility for Senior Citizens and Differently abled Persons Please 
> refer to Paragraph 8 of Statement on Developmental and Regulatory Policies, 
> released by Reserve Bank of India on October 4, 2017 as part of Fourth 
> Bi-monthly Monetary Policy Statement 2017-18, a copy of which is enclosed. It 
> has been observed that there are occasions when banks discourage or turn away 
> senior citizens and differently abled persons from availing banking 
> facilities in branches. Notwithstanding the need to push digital transactions 
> and use of ATMs, it is imperative to be sensitive to the requirements of 
> senior citizens and differently abled persons.
> 2. In view of the above, banks are required to put in place appropriate 
> mechanism with the following specific provisions for meeting the needs of 
> such customers so that they are able to avail of the bank's services without 
> difficulty.
> (a) Dedicated Counters/Preference to Senior Citizens, Differently abled 
> persons Banks are advised to provide a clearly identifiable dedicated counter 
> or a counter which provides priority to senior citizens and people who are 
> differently abled including visually impaired persons.
> (b) Ease of submitting Life Certificate As per extant guidelines issued by 
> Department of Government and Bank Accounts, in addition to the facility of 
> Digital Life Certificate under "Jeevan Praman" Scheme (refer circular 
> DGBA.GAD.H-2529/45.01.001/2014-15 dated December 9, 2014), pensioners can 
> submit physical Life Certificate form at any branch of the pension paying 
> bank. However, it is observed that often the same is not updated promptly by 
> the receiving branch in the Core Banking Solution (CBS) system of the bank, 
> resulting in avoidable hardship to the pensioners. It is, therefore, advised 
> that banks shall ensure that when a Life Certificate is submitted in any 
> branch, including a non- home branch, of the pension paying bank, the same is 
> updated/ uploaded promptly in CBS by the receiving branch itself, to avoid 
> any delay in credit of pension.
> (c) Cheque Book Facility
> (i) Banks shall issue cheque books to customers, whenever a request is 
> received, through a requisition slip which is part of the cheque book issued 
> earlier.
>
> (ii) Banks are advised to

Re: [AI] Fwd: End #Edpartheid response to worrying Supreme Court observation

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
I am not an expert on this subject, my observation is that of a common man:

Both special school and integrated school have a definite role. There are 
convincing and compelling reasons meriting its existence. What is really 
required is finding a practical approach and empowering them.

Here I would consider what need to be done on special school. Although the 
school may be focused towards a disability or two, It should not be exclusive 
to that disability alone. It should also open up non-disabled kids as well. 
Although the ratio should be properly monitored.

The benefit of this approach is that the focus and resources would be optimally 
utilized

Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vaishnavi Jayakumar
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:18 AM
To: AccessIndia.org.in 
Subject: [AI] Fwd: End #Edpartheid response to worrying Supreme Court 
observation

*We need to move quickly - the next hearing is 27 November 2017. *

*More later, till then please follow campaign developments and links at 
bit.ly/end-edpartheid *

 -

 *24-Oct-2017 - Supreme Court to UP govt: Why can't children with special needs 
have separate schools*

After hearing of a PIL, filed through advocate Prashant Shukla, claiming lack 
of sufficient number of special educators in Uttar Pradesh (UP) to teach 
children with special needs (CWSN), the Supreme Court (SC) has asked the UP 
government why separate schools cannot be set up for them.



Moreover, a bench headed by Chief Justice Dipak Misra asked the state 
government how children with special needs (CWSN) can be taught with kids who 
are not disabled.

Further, Justices A M Khanwilkar and D Y Chandrachud, raised the query after 
the Centre and the state government said that under the new integrated 
education scheme, CWSN were being taught along with kids who do not suffer from 
any disability.
Frame guidelines for children with special needs:

During the hearing, SC also asked Centre why some guidelines cannot be framed 
for the education of such children across the country.
Here's what MHRD said:

Along with Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD), the UP government 
said that CWSN were being taught under the integrated scheme to ensure they 
don't feel isolated.

Furthermore, both MHRD and state government said that teaching CWSN along with 
children without disability would boost the confidence of those disabled and 
stop their alienation from the normal environment in schools.
About the petition:

The petition, by 17 teachers who claim to have undertaken the training required 
to teach CWSN, has contended that to make Right to Education a success, it is 
necessary that qualified special educators are there in each school so that 
disabled kids can be prepared to face the challenges of life.
Number of teachers required to teach these kids:

As reported by TOI, the court also asked the state to give details of how many 
teachers with special training had been recruited to teach children with 
special needs.

The bench said, "We are of the view that children with special needs have to be 
imparted education not only by specially trained teachers but also in special 
schools as they cannot be integrated into normal schools."

indiatoday.intoday.in/education/story/supreme-court-
to-up-govt-children-with-special-needs-school/1/1074084.html

--
Supreme Court suggests separate schools for children with disabilities:
Observation violates laws on equality; hampers inclusive education


*29 Oct 2017 **Kangkan Acharyya*

Should all students with special needs be admitted to special schools?
Shouldn't they have the right to get an education in general schools like other 
children? A recent Supreme Court observation related to the education of 
disabled children have raised these questions among child rights activist and 
academicians.

In the observation, the apex court said, “We are of the prima facie view that 
the children with special needs have to be imparted education not only by 
special teachers but there have to be special schools for them.”

The court added, "It is impossible to think that the children who are disabled 
or suffer from any kind of disability or who are mentally challenged can be 
included in the mainstream schools for getting an education.”

The observation made by the Supreme Court of India has attracted criticism as 
activists and academicians view it as not only contrary to the principles of 
imparting effective and inclusive education, but also to the existing law on 
educating special children.

The apex court made this observation while hearing a case related to the 
appointment of special teachers in schools under the Uttar Pradesh government.

"After the hearing of a PIL, filed through advocate Prashant Shukla, claiming 
lack of a sufficient number of special educators in U

Re: [AI] Case to ponder: kolkata HC takes on: "Lead braille affecting kids, PIL tells court"

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
I am wondering what this is all about. Lead content is found in ink and in 
ink-print there would be lead content. While in Braille, the printing is done 
by embossing. Even the old days printer would use zinc sheet and the computer 
printers have metal pins made of steel to emboss.

I am baffled! Would someone fill me in?
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:32 AM
To: accessindia ; J L Kaul 
Subject: [AI] Case to ponder: kolkata HC takes on: "Lead braille affecting 
kids, PIL tells court"

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/lead-braille-affecting-kids-pil-tells-court/articleshow/61599469.cms
KOLKATA: A visually impaired advocate has urged Calcutta high court to give an 
order to replace all lead-made braille prints with plastic ones. In her PIL, 
she attached a survey that shows blind student using braille scripts with high 
lead content are increasingly complaining of sleeplessness, lack of apetite, 
gastric ailments and loss of memory...Petitioner Snigdha  Acharya, the daughter 
of retired high court judge Shankar Acharya, is now studying for her 
post-graduate diploma on public health care and medicine law at the National 
University of Juridical Sciences...A report by the National Test House  shows 
braille scripts have 98.11% lead content. This is a major health hazard for the 
visually impaired, the PIL states, adding, "The Centre and states are negligent 
about lead's harmful effect on blind students."..Snigdha's counsel Srikanta 
Dutta argued, "The state is distributing braille devices, which have high lead 
content, sent by central agencies without taking any precaution. The Centre 
should use plastic to make braille devices."..After the PIL was moved, the 
division bench of Acting Chief Justice Jyotirmoy Bhattacharya  and Justice 
Arijit Banerjee fixed the hearing for 2pm. But no one turned up to represent 
the Centre. The court then adjourned the hearing till November
17 and declared that if no one appears on behalf of the Centre during the next 
hearing, the court will proceed with the case any way..


--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU

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[AI] FW: Latest notification on additional banking services to disabled

[Kotian, H P]

All
For information.
Harish Kotian


http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/notification/PDFs/NOTI89F9DD47A9F3FA440E94C254135F95E728.PDF
NOTI89F9DD47A9F3FA440E94C254135F95E728.pdf
RBI/2017-18/89
DBR.No.Leg.BC.96/09.07.005/2017-18 November 9, 2017 All Scheduled Commercial 
Banks (including RRBs) All Small Finance Banks and Payments Banks Dear Sir/ 
Madam Statement on Developmental and Regulatory Policies - October 4, 2017- 
Banking Facility for Senior Citizens and Differently abled Persons Please refer 
to Paragraph 8 of Statement on Developmental and Regulatory Policies, released 
by Reserve Bank of India on October 4, 2017 as part of Fourth Bi-monthly 
Monetary Policy Statement 2017-18, a copy of which is enclosed. It has been 
observed that there are occasions when banks discourage or turn away senior 
citizens and differently abled persons from availing banking facilities in 
branches. Notwithstanding the need to push digital transactions and use of 
ATMs, it is imperative to be sensitive to the requirements of senior citizens 
and differently abled persons. 
2. In view of the above, banks are required to put in place appropriate 
mechanism with the following specific provisions for meeting the needs of such 
customers so that they are able to avail of the bank's services without 
difficulty. 
(a) Dedicated Counters/Preference to Senior Citizens, Differently abled persons 
Banks are advised to provide a clearly identifiable dedicated counter or a 
counter which provides priority to senior citizens and people who are 
differently abled including visually impaired persons. 
(b) Ease of submitting Life Certificate As per extant guidelines issued by 
Department of Government and Bank Accounts, in addition to the facility of 
Digital Life Certificate under "Jeevan Praman" Scheme (refer circular 
DGBA.GAD.H-2529/45.01.001/2014-15 dated December 9, 2014), pensioners can 
submit physical Life Certificate form at any branch of the pension paying bank. 
However, it is observed that often the same is not updated promptly by the 
receiving branch in the Core Banking Solution (CBS) system of the bank, 
resulting in avoidable hardship to the pensioners. It is, therefore, advised 
that banks shall ensure that when a Life Certificate is submitted in any 
branch, including a non- home branch, of the pension paying bank, the same is 
updated/ uploaded promptly in CBS by the receiving branch itself, to avoid any 
delay in credit of pension. 
(c) Cheque Book Facility
(i) Banks shall issue cheque books to customers, whenever a request is 
received, through a requisition slip which is part of the cheque book issued 
earlier.

(ii) Banks are advised to provide minimum 25 cheque leaves every year, if 
requested, in savings bank account, free of charge. 
(iii) Banks shall not insist on physical presence of any customer including 
senior citizens and differently abled persons for getting cheque books. 
(iv) Banks may also issue cheque books, on requisition, by any other mode as 
per bank's laid down policy. 
It is further clarified that providing such facility in BSBDA will not render 
the account to be classified as non-BSBDA (c.f. Bank's response to query number 
14 and 24 of our circular " DBOD.No. Leg. BC.52/09.07.005/2013-14 dated 
September 

11, 2013
on Financial Inclusion - Access to Banking Services - BSBDA - FAQs"). 
(d) Automatic conversion of status of accounts Presently, in some banks, even 
fully KYC - compliant accounts are not automatically converted into 'Senior 
Citizen Accounts' on the basis of date of birth maintained in the bank's 
records. Banks are advised that a fully KYC compliant account should 
automatically be converted into a 'Senior Citizen Account'
based on the date of birth available in bank's records. 
(e) Additional Facilities to visually impaired customers Banks are advised that 
the facilities provided to sick/old/incapacitated persons vide Paragraph 9 of 
our Master Circular DBR.No.Leg.BC.21/09.07.006/2015-16 dated July 1, 2015 on 
Customer Service in Banks (regarding operations of accounts through 
identification of thumb/toe impression/mark by two independent witnesses and 
authorising a person who would withdraw the amount on behalf of such
customers) shall also be extended to the visually impaired customers. 
(f) Ease of filing Form 15G/H
Banks are advised to provide senior citizens and differently abled persons Form 
15G/H once in a year (preferably in April) to enable them to submit the same, 
where applicable, within the stipulated time. 
(g) Door Step Banking
We have issued instructions on Doorstep Banking vide circular 

DBOD.No.BL.BC.59/22.01.010/2006-2007 dated February 21, 2007 under Section
23 of Banking Regulation Act, 1949. However, in view of the difficulties faced 
by senior citizens of more than 70 years of age and differently abled or infirm 
persons (having medically certified chronic illness or disability) including 
those who are visually impaired, banks are advised to make c

Re: [AI] hyderabad: Dressing up for Ivanka trump: 'Tactile' pavements for visually impaired

[Kotian, H P]

Hi

Anyways, if we look on a positive side, a beginning. As it looks, there is no 
additional cost implication and it is just a matter of taking the right steps 
and we need to mobilise other cities to pick it from here. Smartcities would be 
a right case in context.

We need to demand only then we will get it. Or wait for such gimmics to happen.

Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 3:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] hyderabad: Dressing up for Ivanka trump: 'Tactile' pavements 
for visually impaired

Can someone from Hyderabad comment if this is meant for entire city or for the 
places that Ms. Trump would be visiting? I wonder why people think of something 
only when some guests visit the city; what is the problem of thinking about 
citizens who live here all the time.

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica


On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:36 PM, avinash shahi 
wrote:

> Sunil Mungara reports in the TOI today.
> HYDERABAD: Less than three weeks before the Global Entrepreneurship
> Summit 2017 (GES) kicks off in the city , the civic authorities are
> busy dressing up the city in every possible way for the foreign
> dignitaries that are slated to troop into the city by the end of the
> month...One such spruce-up exercise has the Greater Hyderabad
> Municipal Corporation (GHMC) laying `tactile' pavements along some
> roads to make them friendly for the visually impaired. These 'tactile'
> pavements have block tiles and bars in the middle and on the sides to
> serve as indicators to make it easy for the visually impaired to
> detect them with the help of a walking stick or their feet...
> 61570222/Master
> .."We have selected certain stretches for these special pavements. At
> NFCL Junction, the existing pavement was dug up for laying cables and
> we had to lay a new one, so we opted for tactiles, which can assist
> those who cannot see," GHMC chief engineer, (ma intenance), Mohammad
> Ziauddin, told TOI...It may be pertinent to point out that Donald
> Trump's daughter and advisor Ivanka Trump, who will be heading the US
> delegation to the GES2017 at HICC, will travel through Nagarjuna
> Junction...These tactile pavements will not only aid the visually
> impaired but will also help those with normal sight to walk easily
> without hurdles."At the end of the pavement, separate tactile  tiles
> will be laid, signalling the end of the pavement portion. It can be
> detected easily," he said...So far, tactile pavements are being used
> only in bus stations, railway stations and airports in the city. "We
> are doing it for the first time on city roads and its being
> constructed on both sides," he said...Though the cost of tactile tiles
> is similar to the ones that were in use earlier, there is only one
> unit at Patanche ru manufacturing them in the city. "We have purchased
> them from this unit for the pavements," he said.
> ..The GHMC CE clarified that the civic body is not constructing new
> tactile pavements, but is just laying them in places where old ones
> have been dismantled for various purposes...Authorities are mulling
> constructing tactile pavements in other parts of the city in a phased
> manner, the GHMC official  added..
> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/dressing-up-for-iva
> nka- tactile-pavements-for-visually-impaired/articleshow/61570210.cms
>
> --
> Avinash Shahi
> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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[AI] Low traffic

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All
For the last few days, there is low traffic on the list. Yes, there is issue 
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This is our parallel setup and almost the same set of members would get the 
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We can have the same traffic, so you can postas usual.
The progress on setting up the server  on inclusivehabitat is steady and soon 
we should be able to restore this domain as well.


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[AI] Inclusivehabitat domain down

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All

The Inclusivehabitat domain would not be available as the service provider is 
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services would be unavailable. In the meantime, the accessindia domain is 
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[AI] Financial transaction by blind persons

[Kotian, H P]

Dear Mahendra and all

Interacting with blind persons with accessible currency issue, we came across a 
very disturbing trend, that, many blind persons have given up their financial 
independence in favour their family members or someone they trust.

Therefore, it does not matter to them wether the currency is accessible or not 
because they have not been handling currency by themselves.
This I think is a very scary situation. Loosing power of mobility and now 
financial independence and what is next. Tomorrow we will expect others to feed 
us and brush our teeth and shave our beard.

In such a situation, why should anyone trust you for your abilities? Why should 
anyone provide any accessibility at all?

Let us delegate ourselves like a pet dog?

I invite discussion to ponderon it. Let us have a open talk.
Harish





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[AI] Off-topic How a professional breaches physical security of organization

[Kotian, H P]

All

I am forwarding this off-topic post, primarily, because, it tells of the many 
vulnerabilities that is caused because of the digital age we live in presently 
and how we should be vigilant.
More importantly, what and how much information we put out in social media.


Regards
Harish Kotian


Dear Sir/Ma'am,

An excellent article on how a professional breaches physical security of 
organization.
Lesson learnt is "trust people but verify".



Sophie is a physical penetration tester and information security consultant. 
She specializes in social engineering security assessments including physical, 
voice (vishing) and text (phishing). She consults in remediation and prevention 
of security incidents through creation of policy and procedures, as well as 
customized training for your individual office culture. Prior to working in 
infosec, Sophie was a journalist, photographer, and a mom.

Hello!



My name is Sophie and I break into buildings. I get paid to think like a 
criminal. Organizations hire me to evaluate their security, which I do by 
seeing if I can bypass it. During tests I get to do some lockpicking, climb 
over walls or hop barbed wire fences. I get to go dumpster diving and play with 
all sorts of cool gadgets that Q would be proud of. But usually, I use what is 
called social 
engineering 
to convince the employees to let me in. Sometimes I use email or phone calls to 
pretend to be someone I am not. Most often I get to approach people in-person 
and give them the confidence to let me in.



My frequently asked questions include:

What break-in are you most proud of?
What have you done for a test that you were the most ashamed of?



What follows is the answer to both of these questions.



A few months ago, a client had hired me to test two of their facilities. A 
manufacturing plant, plus data center and office building nearby.



First step: open source intelligence, or OSINT. I look at maps, satellite 
images, study what I can of their delivery and supply schedules, and so on.



The manufacturing facility looked like a prison. No windows, heavy iron gates, 
no landscaping. Generally a monstrosity of architecture. This facility had 
armed guards, badge readers, biometric security controls and turnstiles at 
every entrance.



I remember thinking, "It's got to be hell to work in there. I wonder if I can 
use that..."

One thing was for sure... The chances of tailgating (following behind an 
employee with valid credentials) into this building were next to non-existent. 
I was going to have to get down and dirty with my social engineering.



First stop: LinkedIn. Your LinkedIn is my best friend. The more information you 
have on your LinkedIn, the more options I have. I have several fake LinkedIn 
profiles that you are probably connected to. I scour profiles of employees who 
work at these facilities, and cross-reference them to other social media sites. 
And I find a lovely young woman who I'm going to call Mary.

Mary was a brand-new hire working as an assistant at the manufacturing 
facility. Mary had a public Facebook account too. On Mary's public Facebook 
account, she documented all of her family's adventures.



Side note: Now I know where Mary went to high school, her mother's maiden name, 
the names of her pets, etc.



Answers to those "security questions" you use to reset your passwords are very 
easy to find if you aren't careful with that information.



Not to mention that now I know where Mary works, where her kids go to school, 
where they vacation...I could go on. Scary stuff.



This is not an advanced investigation. I'm not a private investigator and I 
don't have the resources of the NSA. But I can do a lot of damage with simple 
methods. Most notably to me, there were photos Mary posted of her time 
volunteering with a certain maternity support center. Her passion for children 
and caring new moms was very plain. So of course, I took advantage of it.



For this assessment I played two roles. For the first, I spoofed my phone 
number to make it look like it was coming from the company's headquarters. I 
called the front desk of the manufacturing facility and was transferred to 
Mary. "Hi Mary!" I said, "My name is Barbara."

"I am a project coordinator with facilities management. We are renovating a few 
of our facilities. We are sending an interior designer out to you tomorrow so 
she can put together proposals to update your space!" Mary replied, "Well 
that's great! But why the short notice?" I could feel her getting suspicious, 
so I pulled out my trump card...*Sigh* "Well Mary... You really should have 
heard from me sooner. I've just been so overloaded at work...I feel like I 
can't catch up, and to top it off the baby is due in 6 weeks. If my boss finds 
out I messed this up he's going to flip." I was really getting into this, voice 
shaking. (Yes, I know, I'm a terrible human being.) She cut 

[AI] Exciting trip for VI travelers to Thailand being offered by Enable Travel

[Kotian, H P]

All
This mail failed to reach the list. Hence copying it below.
Harish.
Quoting:

Dear Friends,

On behalf of Enable Travel, powered by Cox & Kings, am forwarding to you an 
opportunity to go for an exciting holiday! Hurry only 10 seats available! For 
any further information regarding the same please feel free to connect with 
Sudiksha, her contact details are mentioned in her signature at the end of this 
mail.
Please feel free to reach out to me if you feel you need any further help!


we have 10 seats on 10 nov 2017.

Thailand
4Nights/5days

FLIGHT SCHEDULE:
Delhi Bangkok  9W 64 2315 0455+1
Bangkok  Delhi 9W 63 2010 2315

HOTELS:
PattayaGrand Bella Hotel OR similar
Bangkok  Gold Orchid Hotel OR similar

PACKAGE COST:
INR 33,074 per person

 HOLIDAY PRICE INCLUDES
1) Economy class airfare with Airport taxes (calculated as on 01.06.2017).
2) Overseas Travel Insurance (sum insured USD 50,000/- valid for the duration 
of the tour).
3) Accommodation at the hotel mentioned or similar with breakfast.
4) Additional Breakfast on the day of arrival.
5) Airport Transfers and Inter-city transfers on Seat in Coach Basis.
6) Sightseeing as mentioned in the itinerary on Seat in coach Basis.
7) Services of English speaking Representative.

HOLIDAY PRICE EXCLUDES
1) Meals, Tips, Laundry, telephone, optional excursions and other items of a 
personal nature.
2) Cost of foreign exchange for personal use.
3) Any items or services not specified in the itinerary 'HOLIDAY PRICE 
INCLUDES' head.
4) Govt Service Tax of 5% payable to Govt of India


Highlights
1 SIM Card
2 Dinner Coupons
Complimentary upgrade to 4* Hotel
DAY 1 ARRIVAL BANGKOK - ONTO PATTAYA
Welcome to THAILAND!
Arrive Bangkok Airport; you will be met outside the arrival hall as you are 
transferred to your hotel in Pattaya - SEAT IN COACH TRANSFER.
On arrival at hotel check in to your hotel.
ALCAZAR SHOW - SEAT IN COACH BASIS
PICK UP TIME:BETWEEN 1730 - 1800 HRS
STARTING POINT: HOTEL LOBBY
DURATION:   2 HRS
Highlight Includes: Witness dazzling performances by transvestites in grand 
style presenting creative impersonations through songs and tales accompanied by 
a fantastic modern sound and light system. Suitable for all age groups, the 
Alcazar show is a marvellous extravaganza of music, dance and glitzy costume.
Dinner Coupon of an Indian Restaurant.
Overnight in PATTAYA

DAY 2 PATTAYA
Buffet Breakfast at the hotel
CORAL ISLAND TOUR WITH INDIAN LUNCH - SEAT IN COACH TOUR
PICK UP TIME:BETWEEN 0800 - 0830 HRS
STARTING POINT: HOTEL LOBBY
DURATION:   4 - 5 HRS

Highlight Includes: You will sail across the Gulf of Thailand to Coral Island. 
The island is blessed with beautiful sandy white beaches and an abundance of 
coral. Admire the colourful corals and varied marine life from your 
glass-bottomed boat. Enjoy water sports like banana boat ride, parasailing at 
additional price. NONG NOOCH VILLAGE - SEAT IN COACH TOUR

PICK UP TIME: BETWEEN 1300 - 1330 HRS
STARTING POINT: HOTEL LOBBY
DURATION: 3 HRS
Highlight Includes: Half-day tour to Nong Nooch Tropical Garden Tour the 
extensive botanical and themed gardens with a guide See a 1-hour cultural 
performance of Thai traditional dancing and sword fighting Watch Asian 
elephants perform tricks at the elephant show.

Dinner Coupon of an Indian Restaurant.
Overnight in PATTAYA

DAY 3 PATTAYA - BANGKOK
Buffet Breakfast at the hotel
Check out of the hotel as you are transferred to Bangkok City as per 
pre-schedule time - SEAT IN COACH.
ENROUTE BANGKOK CITY TEMPLE TOUR - SEAT IN COACH BASIS
PICK UP TIME:BETWEEN 0930 - 1000 HRS
STARTING POINT: HOTEL LOBBY
DURATION:   8 HRS
Highlight Includes: Visit Golden Buddha temple, this temple houses an ancient 
solid gold seated Buddha image of the
Sukhothai Period, three meters in height and weighing five and a half tons. 
Later drive through Chinatown to visit Marble Temple. You will have time free 
at Gem Gallery for shopping.

Later check in to your hotel.

Overnight in BANGKOK


DAY 4 BANGKOK
Buffet Breakfast at the hotel
SAFARI WORLD WITH MARINE PARK - SEAT IN COACH TOUR
PICK UP TIME: BETWEEN 0800 - 0830 HRS
STARTING POINT: HOTEL LOBBY
DURATION: 7 - 8 HRS
Highlight Includes: Enjoy a wide array of entertainment, such as the Dolphin 
Show, Sea Lion Show, Orang-Utan Boxing Show, Stunt Show and the Bird Show. 
Drive through the splendid Animal Kingdom where you will come across rare and 
endangered species roaming freely in their natural habitat.
Overnight in BANGKOK

DAY 5 BANGKOK
Buffet Breakfast at the hotel
Check out of the hotel.
You will be transferred to Bangkok Airport for your flight back home - SEAT IN 
COACH TRANSFER
END OF SERVICES

IMPORTANT POINTS
1) The above price is based on lowest airfare. Non-availability of seat in the 
same price will lead to increase in HOLIDAY PRICE.
2) There is no refund for any non-utilizat

Re: [AI] [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] JAWS 18 installation problem on a Windows 10 machine.

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
To add, there is no need to uninstall J17. You can have multiple version of 
Jaws, and it comes handy at times.
Harish
-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of B. R. 
Nautial via Ai
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 11:26 AM
To: Share, empower &Enrich 
Cc: B. R. Nautial 
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] JAWS 18 installation problem on a Windows 10 
machine.

An audio related file is misssing, which required with the jaws installation. 
Try to install lower version of jaws, means jaws 17. once the problem is 
resolved, uninstall the jaws and install jaws 18. I think, the problem will be 
resolved. If you don't get positive result, no need to worry, use the final 
version of jaws 17 and enjoy.
- Original Message -
From: "moiz tundawala via Ai" 
To: "ai" 
Cc: "moiz tundawala" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:20 PM
Subject: [Ai] JAWS 18 installation problem on a Windows 10 machine.


> -- Forwarded message --
> From: moiz tundawala 
> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 10:06:06 +0530
> Subject: JAWS 18 installation problem on a Windows 10 machine.
> To: ai-requ...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
>
> Dear All,
> JAWS 18 is causing major headaches for me on my Windows 10 machine. It
> becomes slow and unstable on webpages after every five or ten minutes
> of use. I wrote to VFO technical support who recommended a clean
> reinstallation after deleting all traces of the programme on the
> computer including registry entries and Microsoft Visual C++
> executables 2005, 2010, 2013 and 2015. They also asked me to
> temporarily disable my antivirus and log in as administrator before
> reinstalling JAWS. I followed their instructions but am now facing a
> much bigger problem. JAWS refuses to start and I get the following
> message:
> ---
> JAWS
> ---
> A file required by the driver VCSPEECH.JLS for Remote Access Speech
> could not be loaded.
>
> One or more shared components are missing.
> Please reinstall this product in an effort to resolve the problem.
> ---
> OK
> ---
>
>
> I have made several reinstallation attempts and even tried the repair
> option. Nothing seems to be working.
> This is causing me a lot of distress. Can someone please advise?
> Thanks,
> Moiz.
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[AI] [DKIM Failure] [Ai] Accessible Indian Currency social media campaign ! Get people to sign the petition, share and like

[Kotian, H P]

All
Although we desire, everyone spread the message amongst all your campaign and 
each one act as a ambassador of this cause, a request to all is that please 
don't update it on the list. Last time, the list went down because of excessive 
posting.
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Blind 
Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 3:58 PM
To: a...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) 
Subject: [DKIM Failure] [Ai] Accessible Indian Currency social media campaign ! 
Get people to sign the petition, share and like

Hi all,

Glad to have all of us united on raising our voice for Accessible
Indian Currency. The current new notes and coins and the probable new
notes are going to be impractical for persons with impairment to
identify. Indeed, we have a disaster in the making. It is too serious
a matter for us not to work on this issue until we have a solution. So
let us run together the biggest possible social media campaign and
ensure our voice is heard and acted upon immediately!
We have created an exclusive Accessible Indian Currency Facebook page,
petition on change.org and a twitter handle. Let us target obtaining
at least 20,000 signatures, hundreds of Facebook shares and twitter
tweets. If each of us contribute with getting just fifteen people to
join this campaign, we can do it! All you need to do is get at least 5
relatives, 5 blind friends and 5 sighted friends to share the below
Facebook page and sign the petition in the next one week. If each of
us together do not spend 20 minutes every day for the next few days,
we may have to live with inaccessible currency for the next ten odd
years. It is a matter of our independence, livelihood, and dignity.
Isn’t it?

Here are the three simple steps you need to follow:
1.  Click on the below change.org petition and sign the petition by
sharing your email id. Your message will immediately reach the
authorities by email as soon as you sign the petition. Also post the
petition on your Facebook profile and remember to make it public.
http://tinyurl.com/AccessibleCurrencyPetition

2.  Click on the below Accessible Indian Currency Facebook page. Like
the page to get future updates and coverage on this. If required you
may share the petition on your Facebook account from here as well.
http://tinyurl.com/AccessibleCurrencyFacebookPage

3.  Click on the twitter page and retweet. You may directly tweet to
the authorities by picking the twitter handles on the page if you
wish. Ignore if you do not have a twitter account.
https://twitter.com/accessibleinr

A smart approach could be to forward this to people who have different
set of connections and ask them to share it further. Remember, people
may not act unless you personally request and follow up with them.

In the words of Mahatma Gandhi, “In a gentle way, you can shake the world!”

Thanks and regards,
Team Blind Graduates Forum of India.
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[AI] Digital shopping

[Kotian, H P]

Friends
I am sharing this article, I have followed it with A FAQ.
Regards
Harish.



The Smart Wallet
BY MAMTA SHARMA
EARLY THIS YEAR, when I moved from Mumbai to Chennai, language posed a great 
barrier. It was difficult to call a cab and pay for a ride without help. Then 
Ola Money, the taxi-hailing company Ola's digital wallet app, saved the day. I 
simply had to load it with money using net banking or my credit/debit card, and 
the app was ready to go. On reaching my destination, I paid my fare digitally. 
It was instant and without the hassles of swiping my card, keying in a 
16-digitnumber or logging on to a bank's website involving OTPs. I soon learnt 
this wallet could do much more-it could help pay phone bills, book flight 
tickets, order a pizza and even transfer money to another Ola Money account.
"Unlike in the West, the Indian economy is culturally cash-intensive. So we'd 
often prefer to make small payments-say from Rupees 10 to a few hundred 
rupees-by cash," says Mukul Shrivastava, partner, fraud investigation and 
dispute services, Ernst & Young, Mumbai. "The newfound comfort of using a 
digital wallet has a lot to do with our ease with smartphones. These wallets 
are simple to use and offer the convenience of technology in your palm," he 
adds. With increasing smartphone penetration and easy access to the internet, 
this digital payment option is rapidly catching on. A recent study by Google 
and the Boston Consulting Group forecasts that India's digital payment industry 
is likely to be worth $500 billion by 2020. Already, mobile wallet companies 
like Paytm, MobiKwik, Citrus, Freecharge, PayU and others have been making our 
life easier. Recent Reserve Bank of India (RBI) data show that payments made 
through mobile wallets have increased from Rupees 29.05 million in 2013-14 to R
 upees 205.84 million in 2015-16 and have surpassed mobile banking in terms of 
volume.
If you haven't tried them, you should. Here's a quick guide to digital wallets 
that will help you use them better.
How do you get started?
Several e-commerce and telecom companies offer digital wallets. All you need to 
do is log on to their website on your computer or download their app on your 
smartphone, sign up with your email or mobile number and transfer funds to your 
wallet using net banking, IMPS (Immediate Payment Service) or your credit/debit 
card. Once the money is in your wallet you are all set.
Types of wallets: There are three kinds of wallets-closed, semi-closed and open.
A closed wallet is issued by a company for buying goods and services 
exclusively from it. For example, MakeMyTrip's MyWallet helps you manage your 
booking refunds on the site.
Semi-closed wallets are the most common. They can be used at select merchants 
that have specifically entered into a contract with the wallet-issuing company. 
The wallet can be used to buy goods and services, including financial services, 
but you cannot use it to withdraw or redeem cash. Paytm, MobiKwik, Citrus and 
Oxigen are some options in the semi-closed-wallet space.
An open wallet can only be issued by banks. These function pretty much like 
semi-closed wallets but allow cash withdrawals at ATMs. Vodafone's M-Pesa in 
partnership with ICICI Bank is one such wallet. "This is driven through the 
business correspondent model that enables us to offer our customers a cash-out 
facility," says Suresh Sethi, business head, M-Pesa, Vodafone India. "They can 
place their request for cash-out to any of the 1,20,000 M-Pesa agents or the 
10,000 Vodafone retail touch-points." Vodafone also offers M-Pesa as a 
semi-closed wallet.
How much money can an e-wallet hold?
As per RBI guidelines, digital wallets without KYC (Know Your Customer) 
compliance come with a monthly maximum transaction limit of Rupees 10,000. You 
have the option to upgrade your wallet and store up to Rupees 1,00,000 after 
following a verification process. Much like a prepaid mobile phone connection, 
you recharge your wallet by transferring funds to it.
Where can you use them?
Wallets can be used to pay utility bills or shop online for products such as 
electronics, clothes or even groceries. You also get to enjoy other benefits 
like cashbacks and discounts on your purchases. Some wallets can also be used 
offline. You could use them at supermarkets or petrol pumps that have tie-ups 
with wallet-issuing companies. For example, in some cities like Kolkata, 
autorickshaw drivers have started accepting payments through Paytm.
How safe are these?
Digital wallets are generally safe once locked with a PIN. Also, wallet-issuing 
companies ensure that they offer a secure payment environment to their 
customers. The security compliance policies of these companies are in line with 
global security standards that protect your identity along with your bank 
details, and credit and/or debit card numbers.
Since the amount stored in your wallet is usually not more than Rupees 10,000, 
the risk involved is limite

Re: [AI] [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI

[Kotian, H P]

All

Yesterday, the list was down for most part of the day, it could not cope up 
with the traffic load.

Quite a number had updated their status on the list which resulted in breach of 
the traffic allowed.

I have shifted this thread on the old domain, if continued would be there and 
the load would get divided.

To Answer George, we ought to file in many HC as the issue is indeed pressing 
and considerable effort is required to bring about a change. We need to 
highlight that the problem is indeed huge and an early intervention is required.

We also need to garner support from all NGO's and this is not 1 NGO issue and 
all need to chip in.

A good number of us have contacts in the media and we need to put our might. 
Also, we should be guarded that we don't go oberboard and focus on the issue on 
hand.

Harish.

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham via Ai
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 3:41 PM
To: 'Share, empower &Enrich' 
Cc: George Abraham 
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian 
Currency, an update on meeting with RBI

I think we should file cases in every High Court of the Nation. The Prime 
Minister and his Govt has to recognize that this is a problem, a real problem. 
A problem faced by people who are blind in every State of the country. Again it 
is a case of multiple voices from across India. More people (judges) are 
compelled to deliberate on the issue. This will give the issue a Nation wide 
feel.

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 2:28 PM
To: 'Share, empower &Enrich'
Cc: Kanchan Pamnani
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI

George NAB I  had filed a case prior to the new notes and the case is still 
pending. Thinking about intervening but need to build up support and lots of 
material. Vishal is leading this initiative for BGFI and we are and have to 
support it. Will require your active   participation  when the campaign builds 
up.
Shireen-Dialogue has been happening for 8 years since I have been involved. 
Based on Asif's email dialogue has been happening for more than 10 years. RBI 
is also consulting the right people/organisations but  At the meeting held 
on 19th Sept I discovered that the current team had not read the notes prepared 
by the earlier officials nor had they bothered to read the replies they had 
received from NGOS. Luckily I had a lot of the material. So consulting is a 
must but listening and implementing the suggestions is crucial.  Therefore the 
need for this fight.
Vasu this fight has to be every day not every month. We don’t have time. The 
difference between the new Rs. 50 note and theRs. 200 note is very little. The 
probable Rs. 100 note is going to be in between these 2. We have a disaster in 
the making. It is too serious a matter for us not to work on this one issue 
till we win.
RBI officials are very polite and helpful and very sensitive to our needs but 
on the ground the reality is simple -we have a major problem and one that will 
continue for a long time unless we rise for our rights.
Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham via Ai
Sent: 22 September 2017 13:40
To: 'Share, empower &Enrich'
Cc: George Abraham
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI

Do you think we should file a case with the Court?

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Ketan 
Kothari via Ai
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Share, empower &Enrich
Cc: Ketan Kothari
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI

Dear Friends,

Extremely good work.   I remember having participated in at least 2
meetings of this nature.  Unfortunately, not much has yielded.  Also, the 
problem of coins is equally challenging and is getting worse.

Actually, I feel that we must take up this issue with the minister of finance 
as at a certain level, RBI is also bound by executive orders.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 9/20/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai 
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here is a brief update on our meeting with RBI authorities.
> We had Kanchan Pamnani, Suhas Karnik, Amar Jain and myself Vishal
> Kumar Jain attending the meeting. First of all thanks a lot for all
> those who have supported with a lot of ground work and those who wrote
> to the authorities which enabled us have this meeting in the first
> place.
>
> We discussed on each of the points highlighted in the representation.
> The RBI team was relatively new to the subject and unfortunately they
> were not updated with earlier conversations o

[AI] Hearing first time

[Kotian, H P]

Dear All

A request for all who want to comment on this mail, pl do not reply to this 
post as it is a bit long. Do put in your inputs on a new mail.
Sharing it from Reader's digest .

Harish Kotian


Hearing For The First Time
A woman-born deaf-takes the gamble of her life and escapes a world of silence 
... at age 39 BY JO MILNE FROM THE BOOK BREAKING THE SILENCE MY GUIDE DOG, 
Matt, shuffles at my feet. We're on a crowded train, and I'm trying to build a 
mental picture of the other riders.
I smell a strong, sweet perfume. My fellow passengers probably haven't noticed 
it-they'll be busy chatting on their mobile phones or reading the paper. But to 
me, it's a clue. Does the lovely scent belong to a girl on her way to meet her 
boyfriend? Or perhaps she has a first date? I can smell coffee too. I tell 
myself to be careful in case there's a hot drink nearby.
"What if itgoes wrong?"says Mum.But what if itdoesn't?
This is my life as a deaf-blind woman: trapped in a world that is getting 
darker by the day, a silent world interrupted only by the blurry low-level 
white noise my hearing aids gives me.
But in a month, I'll have cochlear implants. The surgeons tell me that at the 
age of 39, I might be able to hear for the first time the voices of those I 
love: my family, my friends and the colleagues I work alongside of as a 
mentoring coordinator. It's an incredible prospect, but it comes with serious 
risks. If the auditory nerve is damaged, I'll be stripped of even the fuzzy 
noise I've come to rely on, a sound that's a bit like what you hear when you're 
underwater.
I'm overwhelmed by fear. My mother is worried too. "You're OK as you are, 
Joanne," she says. "What if it goes wrong?"
But what if it doesn't? What if there's a chance that I'll take out my hearing 
aids and never put them back in again?
I know that one day soon, I will lose what remains of my eyesight-I have 
retinitis pigmentosa, another symptom of Usher syndrome, the rare and cruel 
genetic condition that robbed me of my hearing at birth. Since I began going 
blind in my late 20s, I have had no peripheral vision-just a narrow tunnel of 
sight in front of my face that lets me lip-read. But is there really a chance 
that the doctors are going to give me back my ears in exchange?
MY EYELIDS FEEL as if someone has attached lead weights to them. Slowly, with 
great effort, I blink them open. A crack in the ceiling of the hospital ward 
comes into focus. Then a face appears in my tunnel vision. It's Mum.
"Did they do the operation?" I croak. "Is it over?" Mum laughs.
TWO DAYS AFTER the operation, I'm home in Gateshead, England. The specialists 
think it has gone well, but I have to wait a month before the implants can be 
switched on. Only then will we know whether it has been a success.
Suddenly, I have become helpless. I can't wear my hearing aids anymore, and 
without them, the white noise that guided me through each day has disappeared. 
The total and utter silence is a depressing companion.
What scares me most is the thought of staying like this forever.
A MONTH LATER, I'm back at the hospital. Mum and I are sitting in the waiting 
room. A large-screen TV posts each patient's name and the waiting time.
Joanne Milne, 10 minutes.
Six minutes: That nagging fear just won't go away-what if the operation hasn't 
worked?
Five minutes: I think of other things. The fear in Mum's face as she rushed out 
of the house when I was hit by a car as a little girl because I couldn't hear 
it coming. The time I wriggled out of my stroller while Mum was looking in a 
store window. The frantic two hours she spent searching for me in the crowds, 
knowing there was no point in calling my name. The fight she had to get me into 
the same mainstream school as my sisters. The bullies who spat on my back on 
the school bus, thinking it was hilarious that I couldn't hear them.
Three minutes: I look up at the screen and swallow hard.
One minute: I'm looking down at the floor when I see a pair of black shoes 
appear beside me. I look up, see a friendly face appear in my tunnel and feel 
the vibrations of Mum getting up next to me.
I TAKE A SEAT opposite the audiologist, Louise, in her office. Before she 
switches on the implants, she needs to align 22 electrodes in each ear with a 
computer. It's a drawn-out process as she attaches wires from my new hearing 
aids to her computer. When she puts them behind my ears for the first time, 
they feel cold and hard.
After the same laborious process is repeated over and over for each electrode, 
Louise puts down her pen and smiles at me.
"Can... yoou... hear... mee?"
The first words I've ever heard.
Every letter and syllable bounces off the walls, the ceiling, the doors, 
ringing out around the room, in my ears and rattling round my brain as it 
desperately tries to filter every new sound that has pirouetted out of Louise's 
mouth and hit my ears, exploding like a firework.
Is this what sound is like? This isn

Re: [AI] Problem regarding Nil vocalizer.

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
Ctrl+ insert s will list out all the TTS installed. Do you find Neel there, if 
you do so, hit on enter after select Neel.
Thereafter open some document having Hindi content, now it should read out in 
Hindi.
Harish.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sanjeev Kumar Gandhi
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:17 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Problem regarding Nil vocalizer.

Hi friends I Sanjeev Kumar from Chandigarh I have instole Jaws 18 Home odition. 
i have instole nill vocalizer but tts did not work. i have restart jaws also i 
have restart system also please suggest.
Thanks and Regard,
Sanjeev Kumar
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[AI] Moderator: RE: created a whatsapp group for civils aspirents wich could be useful to share metirial in accessable form and other information.

[Kotian, H P]

Folks
 why don't you get in touch with the person when it is available rather than 
load the list which is in the list perspective junk mail.

This has been time and again highlighted and I don't understand what is so 
difficult to comprehend.

Every mail which comes to the list results in 3000 mails out. Multiply this 
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There is a cost for all that and do hold yourself accountable to it.

Instead of just pressing the reply button, do take the extra bit of pausing and 
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aravind R
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 7:01 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] created a whatsapp group for civils aspirents wich could be 
useful to share metirial in accessable form and other information.

hi meharaj, my number is always available in each and every mail. it is 
9940369593

On 5/31/17, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> Kindly add me to the community, Meharaj.
>
> On 5/31/17, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
>> Any such group for banking prepration, please?
>>
>> On 5/31/17, Aravind R  wrote:
>>> we have one whatsapp group where IAS syllabus are taken as classes 
>>> in tamil. if you are interested, both of our groups can join. >> id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"> >> style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;">
>>> 
>>> >> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail";
>>> target="_blank">>> src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif";
>>> alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;"
>>> />
>>> Virus-free. >> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail";
>>> target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >> height="1">
>>>
>>> On 5/31/17, meharaj shaik  wrote:
 hi all, I am shaik meharaj.
 I am preparing for civils.
 the main opstical I have been facing is lak of metirial in 
 accessable format.
 I approached few sighted persons and taking their help in scanning 
 and editing the books.
 I felt there might be some people who must been struggling like me.
 so I came up with a planne.
 first forming a comunity, then each member contributing some 
 metirial as their share.
 thus we could make a comfortable preparation.
 we already formed few members.
 those who want to join the comunity, text me in whatsapp to the 
 following number.
 8985982535.
 "united, we stand divided, we fall"

 regards
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[AI] list down

[Kotian, H P]

All

I sent a mail last night, unsure it reached. The list is down presently, as we 
are trying to move to a dedicated server. However, we are unable to setup the 
server as of now and therefore, I have opened up the accessindia.org.in domain.

This mail is routed through this domain. Until the server is up, we can use the 
old  domain.
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[AI] Digest mail problems

[Kotian, H P]

All

I am posting this on both the list. I have changed each and everyone delivery 
to individual mails. As a large number of members were getting this problem, I 
went to every members setting and set to individual delivery mode.

Those who indeed wanted their in digest mode, you are requested to do so by 
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To reutterate, the old domain will be defunct this Sunday. Do any testing 
before that. You will not be able to post on the old domain thereafter.

There is this issue of mails landing in the junk folder, there is pretty little 
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learn that posts from this list is not spam.

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[AI] The old domain shall close down soon

[Kotian, H P]

All

The new portal is working perfectly well.
We propose to make the old domain defunct this Sunday. April 16th.

You may please make sure, you are getting mails from the new domain by then.
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You can also check out by then, your mails are getting to the list allright.

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[AI] Moderator: Piracy crack the vocaliser tts

[Kotian, H P]

All
This thread is closed for traffic. Piracy is not permitted at all.
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
pankaj thakur
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:31 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] crack the vocaliser tts

On 3/27/17, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> No, sir.
> Definitions in the RPD act have been duly modified.
> They will now be regarded as low vision.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of George Abraham
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:44 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Ht Report: Number of blind to come down by 4m as 
> India set to change blindness definition
>
> So much for the stats. What happens to the definitions in the RPWD 
> Act. What happens to the 4m odd individuals who cannot see beyond 6 
> mtrs? While getting India to look better, 4 million visually impaired 
> persons are going to be left in no man's land!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 27 March 2017 11:57
> To: accessindia; sayeverything
> Subject: [AI] Ht Report: Number of blind to come down by 4m as India 
> set to change blindness definition
>
> The government is set to change a four-decade-old definition of 
> blindness to bring it in line with the WHO criteria and ensure the 
> Indian data on blindness meets the global estimates. The change in 
> definition will bring down the number of blind persons by 4 million in 
> India.
> http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-to-change-definition-of
> -blindness-reduce-number-of-blind-by-4-million/story-HxHKeH3XpfPBEtSr2
> moerO.html
> The
> World Health Organisation
> (WHO) defines blindness as visual sharpness of less than 3/60, or a 
> corresponding visual field loss to less than 10 degrees in the better 
> eye, even with the best possible spectacle correction.
>
> The
> National Programme for Control of Blindness
> (NPCB) in India, on the other hand, defines blindness as vision of
> 6/60 or less and a visual field loss of 20 degrees or less in the 
> better eye, after spectacle correction.
>
> This means a person unable to count fingers from a distance of six 
> metres is categorised as “blind” in India, against the WHO’s 
> stipulation of three metres.
>
> “With the NPCB definition, we will be addressing an extra 4 million 
> individuals, blind due to refractive errors. By adopting the blindness 
> criteria of the WHO, India can achieve the Vision 2020 goal,” said Dr 
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> for Ophthalmic Sciences at AIIMS.
>
> Under Vision 2020, India has to reduce the prevalence of blindness to 
> 0.3% of the total population.
>
> India projects a higher number of blind people at international forums 
> because of its definition. India currently has around 12 million blind 
> people against
> 39 million globally -- which makes India home to one-third of the 
> world’s blind population.
>
> “We will bring the definition of blindness at par with the WHO’s 
> criteria. Because of the current definition, we project a higher 
> figure of blind people from India at any international forum. Thus 
> India gets presented in a poor light compared to other countries,” 
> said NPCB deputy director general Promila Gupta.
>
> Also, she said, the data “we generate under the programme cannot be 
> compared with the global estimates as other countries are following 
> the WHO criteria”.
>
> Uniformity in the definition across various regions of the world is a 
> pre-requisite for facilitating collection of population-based data on 
> prevalence of blindness and estimating its global burden, Gupta said.
>
> The health ministry is also planning to change the nomenclature of 
> NPCB to the National Programme for Control of Visual Impairment and 
> Blindness.
>
> “The idea is to further strengthen the programme by focusing not only 
> on the blind persons but also those with some kind of visual 
> impairment,” Gupta added.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia migration issue

[Kotian, H P]

All

You can set the delivery settings yourself wether to be daily or in a digest 
form. In the welcome mail, there is a link to do that. Find the password too in 
the same mail. It is recommended you change the password first and thereafter 
do the settings. It is not difficult at all.

Harish.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia migration issue

I am getting mails in digest mode I want to change into regular mode
can you please tell me how to do this?

thanks and regards,
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On 3/28/17, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
> Yes, same is the case with me as well. But I don't want to receive any mails
>
> in digest form. Please make the necessary changes. Yours, Professor Shyam M.
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Re: [AI] merge 2 PDFs and instantly convert to JPEG

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
I suppose, you can. Open the 2 PDF one at a time and copy its content and 
select paste special to Paint. Repeat the process with the second file as well.
Regards
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Lyngdoh
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:25 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] merge 2 PDFs and instantly convert to JPEG

Hi all,

Is there a way to merge 2 PDF files and then convert the merged PDF file to a 
JPEG format?
If any, please suggest. It could be either through online or offline mode.
Its a little urgent.




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Re: [AI] About Cheque facility to Customers Using LTI.

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Aruni

Yes, RBI has issued this instructions, however, the ground reality is 
different. In the good old days, it was the branch banking era, signature 
verification was done in the branches.They were aware of their blind customers 
and would do the suitable accomodations. However, it is no more branch banking 
and this process is done at the back end and there is total disconnect with the 
officials and the customers. As a result there is increased incidents of 
cheques getting returned because of signature mismatch.

Those using thumb impression, the problem gets enhanced because, it is not 
possible by most to verify it on the computer monitor.
The effective solution was to have the computer to do that task. Earlier, TCS 
had done some significant work on it. I understand, they have shelved the 
project as the present advances in alternative methods like ePayment is more 
effective than the paper based instruments.

I am aware, many would frown at this, butthis is the stark reality. It is 
necessary to keep in pace with changing times. Internal processes do differ 
from one bank to another. In the interim, if you can find such contacts as 
Sweety has suggested, you can take it up. In the long run of course, you need 
to take measure to change.
 

Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aruni Sharma
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:47 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] About Cheque facility to Customers Using LTI.

Hi, Rbi has instructed banks to facilitate the use of all services including 
cheque facility. But the convenient argument from the bank side is that they do 
not have any LTI verification method. Though I convinced my bank to issue a 
cheque book,, they have told me that  my cheques will only be entertained if 
the signatures match exactly, which  is not the case 99% of times. This has 
effectively barred me from using cheques for banking transactions.
Thanks and regards,


Thanks and regards,
Dr. Aruni Sharma.
Associate Professor, Dept. of Political Science, JNPG College, Lucknow, India.
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On 15 March 2017 at 08:33, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I was going through the RBI guidelines of 2012. It mentions third 
> party cheque, not clearly anything about cheque facility for customers using 
> LTI.
> Bearer cheques are also called third party cheques. Would someone make 
> it clear how an LTI user will use a cheque facility? I have to explain 
> to a bank soon.
>
> With best regards,
> Amiyo Biswas
> Cell: 9433464329
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Re: [AI] Phone के बारे में

[Kotian, H P]

Hi

You can of course write in Hindi, however, in these cases, it is mandatory to 
put hindi: in the subject line.
This would help the majority screen reader users who may not have automatic 
language switching in their default TTS. They can switch to the appropriate TTS 
to read the content which otherwise woulb be silent.


Harish.


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anil Kumar
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:05 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Phone के बारे में

आपका प्रश्न स्पष्ट नहीं है और मुझे संशय है कि इस ग्रुप में हिंदी में वार्तालाप 
किया जा सकता है या नहीं यदि मॉडरेटर इस मेल को देखें तो कृपया इस विषय में प्रकाश 
अवश्य डालें ताकि भविष्य में यदि यह गलत है तो ऐसा पुनः न हो।

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On March 14, 2017 7:00:04 PM Shiv Kumar  wrote:

> कैसे हैं आप
>
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> मेरे पास लेनोवो वाइट mp 14 है इसमें बिलकुल जीत स्वाइप नहीं होता है 
> इसलिए मुझे बहुत ही दिक्कत आती है कृपया इसके विषय में मुझे सजत करें
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Re: [AI] This is just the beginning!

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Kartik

I would tend to agree. Actually, if you break down the video, most of the 
technology is already put in a products. Maybe, not in one solution. OCR, paper 
orientation, face recognition, object recognition, IBm, had already 
demonstrated mood recognition. What extra I found was probably age guessing. 
Sure, AI could also be used for that. Although, I don't consider it to be a 
huge useful input.

I would not consider the demo to be a pie in the sky.

According to me, net connectivity would be required for that as the processing 
would take place in the cloud. These days, this no impediment.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
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Kartik Sawhney
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 2:35 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
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Subject: Re: [AI] This is just the beginning!

Let's just say you will be hearing soon.

On 2/26/17, Nirmal Verma  wrote:
> This video has been on social media and elsewhere for two years. We 
> haven't heard anything after this.
>
> Nirmal
>
> On 26 Feb 2017 18:54, "harish kotian"  wrote:
>
>> All
>>
>> Watch this incredible video.
>>
>> I don't have the source of this though:
>>
>>
>> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZUkidZ0Lhw5kRiSTYXem4yd34kBy
>> p
>> Q4AJk
>>
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[AI] Scribbled notes are still legal

[Kotian, H P]

All
Sometime back, there was a query on this issue on AccessIndia.
Read on.

Scribbled notes are still legal tender, asserts RBI
There has been confusion prevailing over whether the new denomination 
currencies which have been scribbled upon can be accepted as legal tender as 
many banks were supposedly following an advisory from the Reserve Bank of India 
(RBI) that said new notes with pen markings will not be accepted.An RBI 
spokeswoman denied there was any such advisory to not accept denomination notes 
that have been scribbled upon. "The Reserve Bank of India reiterates that all 
currency notes issued by it are legal tender and banks and members can freely 
and without fear accept them in exchange for goods and services," she said.She 
did, however, add that the RBI does advocate the clean note policy.

Harish Kotian




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Re: [AI] Signing off as a moderator

[Kotian, H P]

Hi All

Thanks everyone for your warm words. It was surprising and rewarding to receive 
messages from those who wrote to me privately who were on moderated mode as 
well.

You can now write to Kiran directly his ID is kirankaj...@gmail.com
I have not been lucky in reaching him, you can try yourself. Probably you can 
also drop a tweet.

Warmly
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sakina Dhariwala 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:18 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Signing off as a moderator

Hi Harish, we will miss u a lot, as I used to send manny friends request to 
join both the list. Access India and Mobile Access India. Hope to see u back as 
a moderater soon.
With warm regards Sakina.

- Original Message -
From: "Sana Samad" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled." 
Sent: February 07, 2017 08:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Signing off as a moderator


> On 2/7/17, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> All the members of the AccessIndia family
>>
>> It is taking me considerable efforts penning down this mail. I am 
>> fighting down mixed emotions to put this down.
>>
>> Well, as  is said, what is is permanent is change. So, I have decided 
>> to step down from the moderator role, which I have been discharging 
>> for all these years.
>>
>> It takes me back, when Kiran Kaja asked me to take this role as he 
>> got preoccupied with a job change then. I happily took it up as it 
>> was a good platform to get connected with. I did realize the 
>> potential of this platform and it gave me an opportunity to return 
>> back to the society which gave me so much.
>>
>> I held the list in trust and tried to serve it to the best of my ability.
>> I
>> do cherish the considerable love I got from all the members. I am 
>> also thankful to the mentors team who worked quietly in the 
>> background to make the list more agreeable and cohesive.
>>
>> Kiran is the list owner and it was agreed, he would ensure the 
>> platform is up and running. My role was to keep the conversation on 
>> the list on an acceptable level adhering to the list guidelines which 
>> we had worked on.
>>
>> All was fine, until a year now, there are some issues regarding the 
>> platform. There are bugs in the pages where I have to approve new 
>> members etc. For almost a year, there is no addition of members to the list.
>> Those
>> who are in digest mode are not getting mails for the last 5 months 
>> etc. I having been writing to him regarding these issues. It seems, I 
>> have lost all contacts with him.
>>
>> This is not getting me anywhere and I don't want to take blame for 
>> lapses for which I am not responsible for. If we do encounter server 
>> issues similar to what we had in the past, there is pretty little I 
>> can do as I don't have any credentials of this platform.
>>
>> I gave myself a very long rope, however, I am run out of it. If 
>> anyone from the list can somehow reach out to him, probably we can 
>> get the list to order.
>>
>> To my mind, this list has grown almost to an institution heights. I 
>> shudder to think it take the InclusivePlanet way.
>> Being an ardent optimist, I do hope the list shall overcome this 
>> rough patch.
>>
>> So what it would mean for the present, I shall not intervene into any 
>> conversation as I am no more a moderator from now onwards. I shall 
>> not be taking any maintenance request from any member.
>>
>> It shall be on an auto pilot mode. My ardent request to all is to 
>> still follow the list guidelines meticulously, for doing so it shall 
>> maintain the dignity and realize the purpose for which the list was 
>> made in the first place.
>>
>> I express my sincere thanks to all those who were with me and my 
>> apologies to those to whom I had to take action. I don't hold any 
>> grudge or any vendetta in doing so. It was an unpleasant task 
>> nevertheless a job which had to be done.
>>
>>
>> With this I sign off as a moderator.
>>
>> Warmly
>> Harish Kotian
>> Moderator, AccessIndia
>>
>> 
>>
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Re: [AI] (AI) Bombay High court recalls order, allows FTII to reject colour blind student for editing course

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
Something to ponder: can a colour blind person be treated as blind? What 
percentage of disability  can be attributed to him?

Experts may throw some colour to this question?
Harish.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
turab chimthanawala
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:32 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] (AI) Bombay High court recalls order, allows FTII to reject 
colour blind student for editing course

Reported in the Times of India dated 6th February 2017

In a setback to a colour blind youth, Bombay high court recalled its order 
directing Film and Television Institute of India to grant him provisional 
admission to the film editing course.
A bench of Justices Shantanu Khemkar and Prakash Naik took note of FTII's 
submission that since the first semester was over, and also its examination, it 
was not possible to accommodate Patna-based Ashutosh Kumar directly into the 
second semester which had started. The court's order came on a review petition 
filed by FTII, which urged the court to recall its January 18 order to admit 
Ashutosh to the three-year post-graduate diploma course.
Ashutosh applied to FTII and appeared for an exam in April 2015. When the 
results were out in June 2016, he was selected. When he reported in July for 
orientation, he was told to do a medical examination, which revealed he was 
suffering from colour blindness and low vision.
A report from the Pune government hospital said his colour vision was partially 
defective. FTII then wrote to Ashutosh that he was not eligible for the course 
and why candidates suffering from colour blindness were unsuitable for editing. 
His petition said under Right to Information, he learnt from Satyajit Ray Film 
and Television Institute that it does not discriminate against candidates with 
colour blindness or partial defect. After he got relief from HC, FTII moved a 
review petition. Its petition stated that if colour blind persons edited films 
it would lead to a loss of crores of rupees for producers.
Ashutosh's advocate argued that FTII's stand that the first semester was over 
was known at the time of the January 18 order and no case was made out for its 
review. But the judges found merit in FTII's submission. "It is open for the 
petitioner to apply for admission of the first semester of the next year 
without prejudice to his contentions raised in the petition,'' they said in the 
February 1 order.

Ashutoshs' petition had urged the court to declare that part of FTII's 
prospectus disallowing persons with colour blindness from pursuing the 
film-editing course as violative of the Right to Equality and Right to Life. 
The court has posted the next hearing on February 21.


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Re: [AI] 3rd Anniversary of Talking ATM India

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Aruni

This feedback would be very useful. It is requested all provide any such 
feedback, this alone would give reliable data with end user perspective.

Probably, you could have given more granualar data by providing the  correct 
location of the problematic ATM.

Others please provide specific problem with the location, this would help in 
providing correct data, which in turn, would provide useful info to us itself.

The portal is doing a wonderful job with a selfless motivation. Our feedback 
would bring more purpose to the cause.

Congratulation team!

Warmly
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aruni Sharma
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 12:57 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] 3rd Anniversary of Talking ATM India

Hi according to the app all the Union bank T=ATMs in our viscinity are talking 
ATMs but none of them give any voice guidance. Have tried all
earphones: the normal ones, and those supplied with the mobiles. This is really 
disheartening but obviously fault lies with the incorrect info being provided 
by the concerned banks. Please take up the issue if possible.

Thanks and regards,
Dr. Aruni Sharma.
Associate Professor, Dept. of Political Science, JNPG College, Lucknow, India.
twitter: www.twitter.com/arunisharma
facebook: www.facebook.com/arunisharma
Skype: arunisha...@outlook.com



On 15 February 2017 at 09:47, Prashant Naik  wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
>
>
> Happy to share that today, Talking ATM India, a voluntary service 
> launched on 15-2-2014 during Access India convention at New Delhi has 
> completed 3 years of service.
>
>
>
> Current features available in Talking ATM India website and android 
> app are as below:
>
>
> Website https://talkingatmindia.org  has 
> smart and advance search feature, smart search is based on auto detect 
> location PIN, advance search is by pin and by area, site has SSL 
> security, site has lot of resources, site has common location search 
> on all the pages, search result as share your experience and rating 
> for talking ATMs, site is very light and works fine with all mobile 
> browsers and site is validated for accessibility.  Site is very usable on 
> I-phone.
>
>
>
> Android app ‘Talking ATM locator’ with the latest released version 2.1 
> has search by bank and search by states filter, has add to favorite 
> and copy address option in expanded search page, has open in google 
> map option, set customized filter, app is installed locally so no need 
> of internet connectivity for usage and app user interface is low vision 
> friendly.
>
>
>
> Both website and app have total 11,132 Talking ATM locations from 10 banks.
>
>
>
> We wish to enhance our service by making a universal app supporting 
> Windows, IOS and Android.
>
>
>
> We are really grateful to Dr. Sam Taraporevala and XRCVC for their 
> constant support.  Just couple of
>
> days back they provided us latest Talking ATMs list from Standard 
> Chartered Bank.
>
>
>
> Thank you all for your support in our 3 years journey.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Prashant Naik
>
> Saidarshan Bhagat
>
> Sagar Sodah
>
>
>
> Download free android app ‘Talking ATM locator’ from play store link 
> https ://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pice.
> Talkingatmlocatorindia&hl=en
>  pice.Talkingatmlocatorindia&hl=en>
>
>
>
>
> Follow us on Face book https://www.facebook.com/Talkingatmindia
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Re: [AI] update to windows 10

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
To add, installing classic shell, would make the transition more smoother. This 
is a freeware, Google for it.

Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Austin Pinto
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 12:52 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] update to windows 10

hi.
i would suggest the following.
1. go to ebay and get a windows 7 oem licence key.
the key is cheaper then a normal key.
then you will have to put the windows 10 pendrive or dvd and format your pc.
when it asks for a key just put the oem key that you got.
but upgrading from xp to 10 is a big learning curve so be ready for it.

On 2/12/17, Preeti Bhutani  wrote:
> i cant use screen readers since i suffer from severe hearing loss 
> thank u so much for answering my question regards, preeti
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 9:41 AM, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>
>> No problem, you can use upgraded version of these softwares in 
>> windows 10 too but why don't you try to take the maximum advantage of 
>> Screen reader software? because using computer with a low vision is quite 
>> dangerous.
>> - Original Message - From: "Preeti Bhutani" 
>> 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled." 
>> Sent: 11 February, 2017 09:55 PM
>> Subject: [AI] update to windows 10
>>
>>
>> I want to update to windows 10
>>>
>>> Present interface is windows xp
>>>
>>> I use Zoom text 9.1 magnifying software.
>>>
>>> And due to my vision problems use
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ms office 2003
>>>
>>> Ms office 2007 both
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rich text format with extension  rtf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WinRAR
>>>
>>> Adobe reader 8  with extension pdf
>>>
>>> Adobe digital edition with extension e[pub
>>>
>>> Microsoft reader with lit extension
>>>
>>> Amazon kindle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> |
>>>
>>> DAISY which I use to dmownload books from bokshre.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mozilla firefox
>>>
>>> Gooogle chrome
>>>
>>> Caliber –e book management
>>>
>>> Ebook converter
>>>
>>> Abc amber lit converter
>>>
>>> Converts lit files to ms word
>>>
>>> Kurzweil eductiion system version 10`
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> kaspersenky internet security
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Notepad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to know if these software or their updated version will work 
>>> on windows 10.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Preeti
>>>
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[AI] Signing off as a moderator

[Kotian, H P]

All the members of the AccessIndia family

It is taking me considerable efforts penning down this mail. I am fighting down 
mixed emotions to put this down.

Well, as  is said, what is is permanent is change. So, I have decided to step 
down from the moderator role, which I have been discharging for all these years.

It takes me back, when Kiran Kaja asked me to take this role as he got 
preoccupied with a job change then. I happily took it up as it was a good 
platform to get connected with. I did realize the potential of this platform 
and it gave me an opportunity to return back to the society which gave me so 
much.

I held the list in trust and tried to serve it to the best of my ability. I do 
cherish the considerable love I got from all the members. I am also thankful to 
the mentors team who worked quietly in the background to make the list more 
agreeable and cohesive.

Kiran is the list owner and it was agreed, he would ensure the platform is up 
and running. My role was to keep the conversation on the list on an acceptable 
level adhering to the list guidelines which we had worked on.

All was fine, until a year now, there are some issues regarding the platform. 
There are bugs in the pages where I have to approve new members etc. For almost 
a year, there is no addition of members to the list. Those who are in digest 
mode are not getting mails for the last 5 months etc. I having been writing to 
him regarding these issues. It seems, I have lost all contacts with him.

This is not getting me anywhere and I don't want to take blame for lapses for 
which I am not responsible for. If we do encounter server issues similar to 
what we had in the past, there is pretty little I can do as I don't have any 
credentials of this platform.

I gave myself a very long rope, however, I am run out of it. If anyone from the 
list can somehow reach out to him, probably we can get the list to order.

To my mind, this list has grown almost to an institution heights. I shudder to 
think it take the InclusivePlanet way.
Being an ardent optimist, I do hope the list shall overcome this rough patch.

So what it would mean for the present, I shall not intervene into any 
conversation as I am no more a moderator from now onwards. I shall not be 
taking any maintenance request from any member.

It shall be on an auto pilot mode. My ardent request to all is to still follow 
the list guidelines meticulously, for doing so it shall maintain the dignity 
and realize the purpose for which the list was made in the first place.

I express my sincere thanks to all those who were with me and my apologies to 
those to whom I had to take action. I don't hold any grudge or any vendetta in 
doing so. It was an unpleasant task nevertheless a job which had to be done.


With this I sign off as a moderator.

Warmly
Harish Kotian
Moderator, AccessIndia



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[AI] Moderator: RE: Kabil

[Kotian, H P]

All

We have stretched this thread considerably. Now let us  keep it behind and move 
forward from the Kabil mania.
Firstly, this is a commercial venture.I don't think the producers had a mission 
to work on the awareness problem. As a bye product, it did some awareness drive.
  
For any main stream movie, we the audience have no say in how the story should 
progress and what shape it should take. Putting our 2 cents in the social media 
taking this movie on the back drop would certainly drive home our points. Here, 
we are almost talking to ourselves.

Regards
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:28 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Kabil

People are rewarding the efforts, financially, of course.
Cause indian audience is still foolish, as an honorable erstwhile SC judge had 
some time ago, pronounced.
The scene in question reinforces the stereotype of the blind as helpless and 
hapless lot.

Besides, tell me, which of the negative preconceptions about the blind movie 
breaks?
Surely, you don't believe blind can really engage in the streetfights Ritik 
engages in to eliminate the enemies!?
Smile?
Only silver lining  is independent living which movie depicts with a semblance 
of realism.
Otherwise, even meeting of the hero-heroine happens in a pre-determined 
matrimonial context, couldn't they have met in ordinary life and fallen in love 
like sighted protagonists?


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 10:47 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Kabil

There are countless ways of analyzing that sceen. I found the Rohan's decision 
to look for Supriya through a myke from the dais was a deliberate ploy of 
Sanjay Gupta and Rakesh Roshan. As Rohan started calling Supriya's name on the 
myke, The crowd became thoughtful. How's possible that a blind man can have 
girlfriend? and even a girlfriend of a same disability? then once she listens 
his voice and seeks help to reach on the stage to meet him, the crowd gets 
surprised. The movie-makers have done amazing research and their targeted 
audience is not only we who are the blind and enjoy our love lives with ease. 
But the highly educated non-blind Indians are averse to the idea of blind 
couple making up in a publick place. The movie hits the jack post with 
precision. And the people are rewarding the efforts.

On 2/7/17, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Making announcing over PA for a lost person is one thing, and the way 
> ritik weeps for SU on stage is too infantile, that too when they are 
> just separated in a crowded space in their own city with mobiles in 
> pocket and walking sticks in hand...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Aruni Sharma
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:25 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Kabil
>
> I absolutely agree with George   It's almost like making announcement over
> public address system which is normal practice In a public place.
> Thanks and regards
> Aruni Sharma
>
> Associate prof. JNPG College
>
> Lucknow
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> Connect with me:
> skype: arunisha...@outlook.com
> facebook; arunisharma
> twitter: twitter.com/arunisharma
>
>> On 07-Feb-2017, at 7:28 AM, George Abraham  wrote:
>>
>> Often, desperate situations call for desperate measures. It is easy 
>> to comment from the comfort of our homes. Besides, I don’t think it 
>> was begging. He was just calling for help. All of us tdo ask do 
>> request or call for help when we are pushed . Again people are different!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Ajay Minocha
>> Sent: 06 February 2017 22:51
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Kabil
>>
>> I accept everything but I have better alternatives than begging to 
>> get on the stage and shouting my partner's name.
>>
>> On 2/6/17, George Abraham  wrote:
>>> I saw Kabil yesterday. Overall, I liked the film. The story telling 
>>> was compelling though at times a little too violent. Like most 
>>> films, the Director has taken creative license to tell his story. I 
>>> was happy that the film depicted the blind person as being as human 
>>> as anyone else with emotions ability and aspirations. I do think 
>>> every blind person is wired different and hence brings to the table 
>>> different levels of ability. I am ok with the focus on smell and 
>>> hearing. I have met blind people with stron

Re: [AI] RSS Reader

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Ketan
If you have MSoffice, you can add the feeds to Outlook itself. Alternatively, 
you can add the feeds to Interexplorer as well.
If you require a special app, then you can use the Webie. Do google for it and 
you will get a specialized accessible RSS reader along with other tools.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ketan Kothari
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 2:57 PM
To: win10 
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] RSS Reader

Hi friends,

Can anyone suggest a good accessible RSS reader for laptop with win10?

Thank you.

Ketan

--
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Phone: [r] 24223281,
Cell: 9987550614
MSN ID: muktake...@hotmail.com
Skype ID: Ketan


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[AI] Moderator: off-topicRE: Audex(Audible Access) Is launched:Details Inside!

[Kotian, H P]

This thread is closed in this list. Any suggestions and queries may be posted 
on the Mobile.AI list please.
Regards
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Akash Kakkar
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:16 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. ; keyboard users 
; bsftb 
Subject: [AI] Audex(Audible Access) Is launched:Details Inside!

Hi Everyone!
So, Akash Delight Computings presents it's first app:
Audex (Audible Access)!
This app is available on playstore now, and I hope that it will be very useful 
for everyone and everybody will like it too! (Especially People who are 
frustrated/annoyed/fed up with the talkback’s irritating earcons!).
It's the time to turn talkback earcons off forever and time to turn on Audex!
So, this app will start fulfilling your wish of nice earcons/event sounds from 
today.
(Every suggestions and feedbacks are heartily welcomed)!
Below is the Playstore URL and whole description of the app.
So, here you go!:
Playstore URL:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.delight.Audex
Description:
Audex is Audible Access.
It provides audible feedback for many events such as:
•   Clicking,
•   Touching/Hovering,
•   Swiping on the screen,
•   Openning/closing the windows and menus,
•   Scrolling,
•   Performing the gestures,
•   Starting/Finishing the gestures,
•   Long pressing etc.
Different-different sounds are associated with every event out there.
This app can be used in conjunction with/without any screen reader such as:
•   Google Talkback,
•   Shine Plus,
•   Samsung Galaxy Talkback etc.
This app can be very useful for screen reader users.
Audex is very responsive and very low on memory, so, no need to worry either.
Note for screen reader users:
To use this app, please turn off the sound feedback of your screen reader. 
(Don’t Worry, you’ll not regret it, it has many sounds, which are in fact 
better than talkback etc).
To you use Audex:
•   Go to Settings,
•   Then Accessibility,
•   Then Audex,
•   Click the button which is labeled as ‘off’,
•   Click ‘OK’ on displayed warning/alert.

You are now ready to enjoy the Audible Access and Navigation throughout your 
device!
Happy Audexing!


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Re: [AI] Blast from the Past Column by Anuj Kumar: He revisits Sai Paranjpye’s timeless gem 'Sparsh' that continues to be a benchmark for films that address the normal/abnormal binary.

[Kotian, H P]

Hi

This post brings fond memories of this wonderful portrayal of a blind person. 
Lots and lots to learn from this film. 

If I had my way, I would make it mandatory for all blind persons, family 
members and those supportive of blind person in any role to watch this movie. I 
suppose, it will be fresh and relevant for all times to come.  

It was my ardent desire to have aa  appreciation screening with experts 
discussing key points from this movie to a group of blind persons and their 
care givers.

May we have it some day soon.

Harish Kotian
 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:57 AM
To: accessindia ; jnuvision 
; jnudpa 
Subject: [AI] Blast from the Past Column by Anuj Kumar: He revisits Sai 
Paranjpye’s timeless gem 'Sparsh' that continues to be a benchmark for films 
that address the normal/abnormal binary.

As “Kaabil” brings visually impaired protagonists back in focus, it is time to 
revisit Sai Paranjpye’s timeless gem that continues to be a benchmark for films 
that address the normal/abnormal binary. Breaking the stereotypes created by 
cinema and society where blind people are often presented as objects of pity, 
Sai creates an inclusive space where the blind protagonist wears his self 
esteem on his sleeve and suffers from the same emotional upheavals as any 
sighted person is.
Based on the real life story of Ajay Mittal, Sai demolishes the lachar-bechara 
image that Hindi cinema wove around blind characters and in Naseeruddin Shah 
she has a malleable actor to realise her vision.
http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/Sparsh-1980/article17063316.ece
The narrative holds a soothing love story of a sighted woman and a blind man. 
It seems implausible but as Sai sensitively unravels the layers one can figure 
that each one of us have handicaps. A young widow disabled by the society, 
Kavita is struggling with her emotional vacuum when she comes across Aniruddh 
Parmar, the principal of a school for the blind. A beautiful relationship 
evolves which is more tactile than visual and the fragrance permeates through 
the celluloid.
Kavita buys saris that Aniruddh could feel. A self made man, Aniruddh allows 
Kavita in his dark universe. However, soon self doubt creeps into the 
relationship as Aniruddh fears dependence on Kavita. Aniruddh has been more 
than compensated by nature in other senses, including ego. Is Kavita trying to 
be a Gandhari? Is she trying to justify her second love as a duty? It leads to 
an intense curdling of emotions in the estuary between right and wrong.




There is a bigger picture as well which can be easily juxtaposed to the 
majority/minority question. In the outside word, blind people might be 
struggling to find feet but in the blind school it is the sighted who are 
yearning to find acceptance. Sai presents it through the strand of Pappu, the 
sighted boy among blind students. He longs for the attention of his teacher but 
her entire focus is on blind students. When Pappu fights with a blind student, 
he closes his eyes to make it a fair fight but still fails to get the attention.
Similarly, Kavita does everything to be part of Aniruddh’s universe but he 
considers it as a ritual to get over her past or as Kavita’s friend (Sudha 
Chopra) says he remains blind to her love.

Naseer has often rated it as his most fulfilling performance. The shift in 
eyeballs, the arc that he creates with the stick, the way he holds the cup and 
the ungainly body posture, Naseer almost becomes the character. In his 
autobiography, “And Then One Day”, Naseer admits the thought of acting as a 
sightless person with children who were actually sightless took him as close to 
butterflies in the stomach as he had ever been. The key to play a blind 
character, he says, is that they directed their ears and not their eyes at the 
point they were addressing, and that caused their sometimes ungainly bodily 
posture, which, having absolutely no self consciousness, they were oblivious 
to. He imbibed it by following Mittal for ten days. His education in Aligarh 
Muslim University also helped as it had one of the best schools for the blind 
in the country. He had observed a couple of blind classmates during college 
days. He tried different things to get the movement of a blind character but 
ultimately went by his imagination. “I had always been able to shut out all 
aural stimuli whenever I felt like it, but shutting off all visual stimuli 
proved equally easy.”

Naseer and Om Puri often performed together like singing a duet.
Different notes but always working for a harmonious whole. Here in a supporting 
role, Om manages to leave an impact, despite Naseer’s immersive performance, 
because he creates another blind character which is as real and distinct as 
Aniruddh. Add to it yet another impressive turn by Shabana Azmi and we have a 
film that continues to feel fresh. S

[AI] Moderator: out of topic- RE: for new i phone.

[Kotian, H P]

Geetesh andMeesha

This is to let you know that both of you are violative of the list guidelines. 
Jeetesh for making the wrong post and Meesha responding to it. Mobile related 
topics are out of scope to this list. I had recently sent the list guidelines 
highlighting this issue and again, very recently closed traffic. I should have 
taken action, I am being lenient as you both are new members.
   
This is a general reminder to all, any further breach by any member would 
trigger action. Therefore, please adhere to the list guidelines. This is done 
to have optimum traffic which will benefit all.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ARORA Meesha
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 3:46 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] for new i phone.

Hi,
I have been using Iphone SE for almost nine months now and it is a good phone 
with the latest OS and good battery . It is a good option for us as we don't 
care for a bigger screen size so we get a great performance at a economical 
price.
Hope it helps!
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
geetesh gehlot
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 1:00 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] for new i phone.

hellow friends this is geetesh from indore.
friends now Iam using I phone 4s 8GB.
I have to change my  I phone can anyone suggest me that which is the best I 
phone I phone S E or I phone 6S? I phone 6S 64 GB is very costly and now it is 
market prise is 52 thousand and I phone SE 64 GB is 38 thousand.
so, which phone I have to by?
please reply.


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[AI] Moderator: off-topic, RE: Feedback on TalkBack

[Kotian, H P]

All
This thread is closed on this list. It may be continued on the mobile.ai list.

Pl ensure to put all mobile related posts on the list meant for it.
Regards.
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
sanjay
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack

Our typing speed in IPhone can surpass any average sighted person.  Thanks to 
the Braille Screen input of IOS devices.  We need not to carry any device with 
our phone.


- Original Message -
From: "rajendra dhurve" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled." 
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack


> Hello mr. bhavani Varma... Will you please clear the picture about 
> which Android keyboard u r talking about? How does it cost? and from 
> where we can order this useful device?
> Don't u find difficulty to carry it all around everytime with you?
> Like travelling in a Public bus, Train, standing on road side etc?
> hope to get your respond soon
> Regards:
> RD
>
> On 1/8/17, rajendra dhurve  wrote:
>> Can anybody tell how to spell out a word in a text and in what'sapp 
>> or messanger on Android phone?
>>
>>
>> On 1/7/17, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
>>> But what is the name or company of the keyboard?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "bhawani shankar verma" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning
>>>
>>> the disabled." 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack
>>>
>>>
 bluetooth enabled keyboard. can be connected via vluetooth with any 
 apple,

 android and window device.


 -Original Message-
 From: Shyam M. Sayanekar
 Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:01 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning

 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack

 Hello Bhavani, which keyboard are you using?
 - Original Message -
 From: "bhawani shankar verma" 
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled." 
 Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack


> add more keyboard commands like jaws in talkback. some extent i 
> use keyboard to operate my mobile phone. specially while making 
> online payments and i enjoy it through operating keyboard.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Aakash Bansal" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 7:32 PM
> Subject: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack
>
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> We at IIT Delhi are going to start working on adding more 
>> accessibility features in the TalkBack under the collaboration 
>> with the Google TalkBack Team. We will be highly delighted if you 
>> can provide us the major challenges you face in day to day life 
>> in using TalkBack on your android device.
>>
>> Your inputs will help us in choosing major issues and setting up 
>> the priorities for various tasks. Please feel free to contact me 
>> if you have any confusion.
>>
>> Keenly waiting for a warm response from all!
>>
>> --
>> Thanks and Regard
>> Aakash Bansal
>> Indian Institute of Technology Delhi
>> web: http://web.iitd.ernet.in/~anz168049/
>>
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I still see members responding to intro mails and congratulatory messages on 
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Re: [AI] Fwd: [nabs-l] The Student Division and the Science & Engineering Division presents a conference call all about science on Monday, January 9 at 9pm eastern!

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
Great stuff. Pl have the session recorded.
Harish Kotian


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Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 3:14 PM
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Subject: [AI] Fwd: [nabs-l] The Student Division and the Science & Engineering 
Division presents a conference call all about science on Monday, January 9 at 
9pm eastern!

For anyone who may be interested

-- Forwarded message --
From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President via NABS-L" 
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:37:59 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] The Student Division and the Science & Engineering Division 
presents a conference call all about science on Monday, January 9 at 9pm 
eastern!
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list , 
nfbnet-students-l...@nfbnet.org
Cc: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" 

All:



The Science and Engineering Division and The National Association of Blind 
Students of the National Federation of the Blind announce a Joint Science 
Oriented Phone Conference



On January 9, 2017, at 9 PM Eastern Standard Time (EST,) The Science and 
Engineering Division and The National Association of Blind Students will have a 
science-oriented phone conference. The conference will use the NABS conference 
line with the contact information as follows:



Call: 605-475-6700,

Access code: 7869673



The speakers and topics are as follows:



* John Miller will speak on how to do physics and engineering;

* Kennedy Stomberg will speak on how to do biology labs;

* Ashley Neybert will talk about how to do chemistry labs; And;

* Kristen Johnson will describe how to do dissections.



For more information, please contact either:



National Association of Blind Students President Kathryn Webster

Phone: 203-273-8463

Email: nabs.presid...@gmail.com



Science and Engineering President John Miller

Phone: 858-527-1727

Email: johnmiller...@hotmail.com



Talk to y'all soon!

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Re: [AI] can't we open demat account with thum impression

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
RBI through its circular, had stated, all banking services should be given to 
blind persons. Therefore, there is no merit in baring demat services.
Moreover, demat account is linked to your savings account, so, I don't what is 
the justification in extending savings account without demat account.
This iswhimsical ways of the official concerned. Don't take it.
Harish Kotian
 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aravind R
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 3:44 PM
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Subject: [AI] can't we open demat account with thum impression

dear friends,

i asked for demat acount from ICICI.
my pan card has my thumb impression as signature so, ICICI back office refused 
my application.
however, they are ready to open saving banks by accepting my thumb impression 
cheque leaf.
is it correct to refuse for demat account due to thumb impression?

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[AI] Moderator- OTRE: dungle movie

[Kotian, H P]

All
This is out of topic. This thread is closed for traffic.
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:55 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] dungle movie

Just saw it yesterday. Great movie! Enjoyed it thoroughly! Would rate it as a 
classic!

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Nirmal Verma
Sent: 03 January 2017 22:12
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] dungle movie

There are lots of torrent websites. You might get movies on those websites.
Many of them have recently been closed but try your luck.
Popcorn movies app had been removed from playstore due to piracy issues.
But its apk is available somewhere.
Dangal is a very good movie and to enjoy it thoroughly try seeing it in a 
theatre.

Nirmal


On Jan 3, 2017 9:44 PM, "sanjeev kumar"  wrote:

dear list members, could someone upload dungle movie in video format

regards

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[AI] Copy of New RPD bill in Braille

[Kotian, H P]

All
I have been requested to share this info:
Snehankit helpline is now making available the new RPD bill in Braille for Rs. 
150. For it please contact 9987114680
Regards
Harish Kotian





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[AI] Job vacancy

[Kotian, H P]

All
The following post did not hit the list and hence copying it below.
Regards
Harish Kotian


Quoting:


Dear All,

Greetings of the day!

We are sharing the details of the vacancies for job profiles for the Person 
with visual Disability in the below mentioned organisation.

Apply As soon as possible
1. Organisation: Deque Technologies
2. Job Profile:  Software testing
3. Eligibility:  B. Tech graduate with 0 to 6 months experience
4.  Location :  Hyderabad

Interested candidates can send their CV at cv.sart...@gmail.com till January 
2nd, 2017.

For any query, call on 011 - 42004238


Thanks & Regards,
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Building # 1, Sarthak Educational Trust,
Mohammadpur, Near Bhikaji Cama Place
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Re: [AI] Windows 10 and JAWS 18

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Vikas
Check for the volume level in the audio mixer. It may be very low close to 
being muted.
What about Narrator, does that speak?
Harish.


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Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:06 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
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Subject: [AI] Windows 10 and JAWS 18

Friends, I've been trying to install the demo version of JAWS 17 and 18 to a 
windows 10  based HP laptop, but each time it installs without any problem but 
while running the JAWS, it gives a message that one or more shared components 
are missing, please reinstall it in an effort to resolve this. Anybody 
experiencing the same and any remedy to that? In the entire process, JAWS also 
does not give any speech while it is being installed, so something wrong with 
the speech driver I suppose.
Thanks.
Vikas Kapoor,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
Skype Id: dl_vikas

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[AI] Moderator: off-topic RE: about buying a smart phone

[Kotian, H P]

All
Just a few days back, I sent the list guidelines,
 requesting members to post to the correct list. Mobile related queries are out 
of scope to this list. All are requested to adhere to it or else, I would be 
constraint to take action.
Harish Kotian
  

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
sanjeev kumar
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:49 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] about buying a smart phone

dear members, want to buy a suitable smart phone which is quite easy to use for 
vi person. one of my friend suggested me about samsung or moto phones but there 
are a number of series in both the companies could not decide which one should 
i go for, such as in samsung, A series, J series,  S series,  and Note series.
same in moto number of series such as  moto G, moto E, moto X, and Moto Z, and 
Moto M, my budget is round 10 K to 12 K please suggest a good smart phone which 
I could manage properly though I am not very good at using these smart phones. 
also suggest any other phone if good for use and also fall in my budget.

with regard

sanjeev kumar

mob

9354254057


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[AI] Moderator: off-topic RE: Narendra Modi: Make it mandatory for all Political Donations to be Cashless

[Kotian, H P]

All
This post is off-topic. This thread is closed for all traffic.

Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aravind
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 7:53 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Narendra Modi: Make it mandatory for all Political Donations to 
be Cashless

Hey,

I just signed the petition "Narendra Modi: Make it mandatory for all Political 
Donations to be Cashless" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your 
name.

Our goal is to reach 15,000 signatures and we need more support. You can read 
more and sign the petition here:

https://www.change.org/p/narendra-modi-make-it-mandatory-for-all-political-donations-to-be-cashless?recruiter=36356305&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive

Thanks!
aravind

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[AI] Moderator: List guidelines

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Dear Members of AccessIndia

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Re: [AI] Fwd: Joining access India

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Ajeesh
You are actually correct, I am having difficulty in approving new membership 
requests from the portal.
To all, please mail me new membership requests on my ID:
har...@accessindia.org.in
Besides, those who are registered in digest mode, it may be possible, they may 
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They too can reach me, in case they are not able to do so themselves.
Harish Kotian
 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ajeesh Thomas
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:42 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Fwd: Joining access India

Hi  Access India  Administrator,
Now a  Days we are facing challenges to join with Accessindia  List, though we  
properly submit the Subscription form  ., could you please help  my colleagues  
to join this group.
 Kindly add  them or help us with the  steps to join.
1. Merin :
Id: merinba...@gmail.com
2. Sangeetha
Id: sangeetham...@gmail.com


If this request is not in the correct platform asking apology.

Regards,
Ajeesh



From: sangeetha m 
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 14:46:24 +0530
Subject: Joining access India
To: ajeeshthoma...@gmail.com

Hi Sir/Madam

I Would Like To Joining The Group
So Please Kindly Add me
My Contact Details
Email ID: sangeetham...@gmail.com
my moble Number Is 9986645061



regards
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Re: [AI] RPD Bill has passed at Loksabha

[Kotian, H P]

All
Truly, a historic day in the disability sector.
Profound thanks to all who made it happen.

For a change, I will not intervene for congratulating ourselves. Truly deserves 
it.
.
Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:15 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] RPD Bill has passed at Loksabha

Yay! Bill passed!!
Congratulations and gratitude to those involved in making it happen.

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

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Re: [AI] 2000 INR notes - what if written something and a person with blindness has accepted from someone

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Srini
This comes under Defacing of notes, it  holds good for all notes including Rs. 
2000. In practice, these notes gets circulated easily and if there is any 
problem, it can be exchanged at any banks. Again, this holds good for damaged 
and mutilated notes too.
This is taken care in RBI's note refund rules.

Harish.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 11:13 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] 2000 INR notes - what if written something and a person with 
blindness has accepted from someone

Hello all,
Today, I was talking to an official at HDFC about what if a blind person 
unknowingly acquire a 2000 INR note from someone that has some writings?
Because As per RBI, nothing should be written on the new notes and if there are 
any such writings, note will become invalid. Official told me in such a 
situation, blind consumers can exchange those notes in the bank; though there 
is no official notification as such to this effect, but they do help 
understanding the situation.

FYI.
Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
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[AI] Moderator: RE: smart phone with key pad

[Kotian, H P]

All
I don't see any serious points coming up. Anyways, this thread should not be 
running here.
May we now close it here. It may continue on the Mobile.AI list if needed, 
although, I personally don't see any merit continuing the thread.

Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mujeeb Rahman
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:44 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad

I would rather suggest him to focus on developing accessible apps for the 
Android platform.

On 12/15/16, PAULMUDDHA  wrote:
> Dear learned friends
>
> A friend of mine who is also a visually challenged is developing a 
> smart phone with keypad [with full pledged buttons with the help of a 
> developer from Mumbai
>
> ]
>
> With his own funds.
>
> He would like to know whether this smart phone could be marketed in 
> India and abroad for a price of Rs.5K.
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Re: [AI] now you can see concession fares in indian rail.gov.in

[Kotian, H P]

Dear Sazid
Congratulations, this is the correct approach. We need to work on our issues 
first.
Keep it up.
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
sazid shaik
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:11 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] now you can see concession fares in indian rail.gov.in

I am working in Indian railways.  hence i took time to get concern person.  
once i saw a post on this list regarding this issue.  through our departmental 
source only i made this

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 12/14/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> great!this is called action. by which mode you communicated this issue 
> with
>
> railways?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sazid shaik
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:34 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] now you can see concession fares in indian rail.gov.in
>
> Dear list, Just now the  issue which was facing with us to get 
> concession fare was resolved within 20 minutes when i escalated this 
> to our railway department.
>
> thanks and regards,
> sazid
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[AI] Moderator: RE: News of Interest: Visually challenged girl ‘marries’ Lord Krishna in MP’s Tikamgarh district

[Kotian, H P]

All

Agreed, ridiculous patronage to this thread.
Let us close this thread now.
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Dinesh Kaushal
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:29 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Visually challenged girl ‘marries’ Lord 
Krishna in MP’s Tikamgarh district

I am sorry, but is this topic relevant for this group?


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Naresh Kumar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:07 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Visually challenged girl ‘marries’ Lord 
Krishna in MP’s Tikamgarh district

Good Vamshi,
Though Marrying someone by choice should always be respected as the right of an 
individual yet marrying a deity, and that too, by a disabled woman is something 
quite different. It really needs to be pondered seriously. Let alone the 
question of disability, a girl can marry Lord Krishna or Shiva or anyone but 
have we ever heard a male marrying a Goddess? Religion shaping 
masculinity/femininity and disability should be looked upon as a sociological 
and psychological thing. These are my instant reactions; if anything comes to 
my mind then I will keep following the thread.
Cheers
Naresh

On 12/13/16, Vamshi. G  wrote:
> With marriage for disabled presenting its own difficulties, is this
> what people started resorting to?   And, as said by Rajesh sir, this
> is manifestation of disabled being termed as Divyang.  Well, when a 
> male SP of police department in Mathura claims he is Radha (lover of 
> Krishna), a female wishing to marry Krishna is not too surprising, 
> whether or not disabled.  I really wish sanety prevails in this world!
>
> On 12/13/16, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> She is truly a divyang.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:02 AM
>> To: accessindia; jnuvision
>> Subject: [AI] News of Interest: Visually challenged girl ‘marries’ 
>> Lord Krishna in MP’s Tikamgarh district
>>
>> A 22-year-old visually challenged girl, who has been a staunch 
>> devotee of Krishna since childhood, married an idol of the Hindu god 
>> at a village in Tikamgarh district on Sunday.
>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/bhopal/visually-challenged-girl-marries
>> -lord-krishna-in-mp-s-tikamgarh-dist/story-DmycTWQHPodJNriM2RhaaJ.htm
>> l Shalini’s ‘marriage’ was solemnised according to Bundelkhandi 
>> traditions. The marriage procession reached the bride’s home in 
>> Digoda village, where the ceremony was performed.
>>
>> According to locals, Shalini has been reading religious scriptures 
>> such as Ramayana, Bhagwat Geeta and playing musical instruments since 
>> childhood. The villagers pay a lot of respect to the woman, as they 
>> believe she possesses some supernatural power.
>>
>> Shalini’s father Munnalal Bidua, a teacher, told HT that he has two 
>> sons and two daughters. Shalini is visually challenged since birth.
>> She expressed her desire to marry ‘Lord Krishna’ recently. The 
>> parents didn’t disappoint her and consulted a priest to fulfil the 
>> desire of their daughter.
>>
>> The marriage was scheduled for December 4, as according to Hindu 
>> calendar it happens to be ‘Vivah Panchmi’. On Saturday, the marriage 
>> rituals like menhdi and sangeet were held. On Sunday, the marriage 
>> procession (baraat) was taken out from a temple with Lord Krishna’s 
>> Laddu Gopal form as the bridegroom. After the marriage, the bride has 
>> plans to continue living at her present home, where she has a 
>> separate room converted into a temple.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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[AI] Moderator: RE: Smart workarounds

[Kotian, H P]

All
This thread should have been ideally running on our Mobile list. However, 
considering its importance, I did not intervene so far.
Now, that it will be discussed all over again, I can't allow it. So, all are 
requested to carry this thread on the mobile list which is the correct place to 
discuss any mobile related applications.
Regards
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
rajendra dhurve
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 5:06 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

Hi Sashvat.. Will you please throw some more light give me clear picture that 
what u all friends are talking about?
What is I-D and how can I get on my Smartphone? can I read the immages messages 
on my what'sapp? what is the procedure to use it and from where I can get it? 
Does this app also supports immages of hindi text?
I'm frequently receiving the clicked pictures of the text, News and other 
immage data but Unfortunately I'm not able to read out with my Talkback on my 
phone!!
Please come up solution if you have.
Would be highly thankful.
Regards:
RD

On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> Nice to note. Yet keen to know Will  Malayalam be one of the 
> languages. Most often Malayalam is not even considered as an Indian 
> language. Hope its not the case..
>
> On 12/7/16, Shaswat Jena  wrote:
>> Mujeeb,
>>
>> The pro / paid version will support a large of languages including 
>> Indian regional languages. We will be rolling out the pro version of 
>> the by the end of Jan 1st week at a very nominal subscription fee.
>>
>> Sinoj,
>>
>> Glad that you found the app helpful, As mentioned earlier the 
>> advanced OCR will have options to save, share and other features 
>> which will be included in the paid / pro version of Eye-D app.
>>
>> Vikas,
>>
>> Thanks for bringing forward the issue. I would still say that there 
>> seems to be some issue with your version of WhatsApp. We checked for 
>> the issue with latest version of Eye-D and WhatsApp everything seems 
>> to work flawlessly without any issue. We even checked this with both 
>> JPEG and PNG files there was slight performance degrade for PNG 
>> images which will fix in next updates.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shaswat
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>
>>> The problem is not with the printed documents as you are suggesting, 
>>> the problem is with exporting the what sap images to be able to read 
>>> them out.
>>> As I reported earlier, everything was fine, but once I performed a 
>>> factory reset on my phone, the problem started coming in. I assume 
>>> if I'd installed both these applications on my phone day before 
>>> yesterday, the apps might be having the latest versions.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   From: Shaswat Jena
>>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>   Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 11:56 AM
>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds
>>>
>>>
>>>   Hello All,
>>>
>>>   I'm Shaswat from Eye-D. I'm really sorry that some of your are not 
>>> being
>>>   able to use the app. Please note that there was an similar issue 
>>> with the
>>>   Facebook app which resulted in the failure of image sharing and 
>>> processing
>>>   it externally earlier, so I would suggest you to update your Eye-D 
>>> app and
>>>   WhatsApp as no such issue is being observed on our end.
>>>
>>>   Gufran / Vikas,
>>>
>>>   For better results results please try to hold your phone 15-20 cms 
>>> above
>>>   the printed document for now. We will be rolling out major OCR and 
>>> feature
>>>   upgrades gradually to improve your app experience.
>>>
>>>   Thank you Satguru for answering the queries :)
>>>
>>>   Please do let me know if you have any queries and suggestions.
>>>
>>>   Regards,
>>>   Shaswat
>>>
>>>   Eye-D 
>>>
>>>   https://in.linkedin.com/in/shaswatjena
>>>
>>>   National Award Winner (Best Innovators of 2016
>>>   )
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Mujeeb Rahman 
>>> >> >
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   > Super!!
>>>   >
>>>   > On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>>>   > > 1. open WhatsApp.
>>>   > > 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
>>>   > > 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
>>>   > > 4. click on share.
>>>   > > 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
>>>   > > from the talkback.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > note: you need internet connection to use this service.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need 
>>> to work
>>>   > > around with it.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > here, guess work takes place.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > this is just my opinion.
>>>   > >
>>>   > >
>>>   > >
>>>   > >
>>>   > > On 11/29/16, Mu

Re: [AI] Programme alert: do tune in to All India Radio FM Gold 9:30 pm today

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
To add, you may call up on 011 2331
There is a toll free number, which I don't have.
You can put in your queries / comments to the panelist. I would encourage AI 
members to avail it fully.
The queries has to be put between 9:30 - 10 pm.
Twitter too is available.
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 1:22 PM
To: disability-studies-india ; 
accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Programme alert: do tune in to All India Radio FM Gold 9:30 pm 
today

In the weekly half an hour programme 'publick speak' today, 'the steps taken by 
the government for the empowerment of PWDs' will be discussed. You can ask 
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[AI] Moderator: RE: Accessability of PayTM With iPhone

[Kotian, H P]

All
Can this be continued on the mobile list please.

I did not intervene so far considering the present need of these apps. Now it 
is getting to the specifics, which is best discussed in the list meant for it.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aravind R
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:17 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessability of PayTM With iPhone

dear sir,
there is one menu button on top left.
double tap on that, then choose mobile recharge then double tap on prepaid or 
post paid. you can recharge easily.

On 11/24/16, Sheik Mohammad Ali  wrote:
> just touch on bottom of the screen where you will get list of tabs 
> such as notifications, cart and start swiping left until you get menu 
> icon and tap on it you will get the list of categories
> - Original Message -
> From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning
>
> the disabled." 
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Accessability of PayTM With iPhone
>
>
>>I am using paytm on iphone but I am unable to recharge my mobile from 
>>app home page. As I click on pay ellectricity bill recharge mobile 
>>icon then I
>>
>>get the option to pay electricity bill and no other option. Adding 
>>receiving or sending money is very easy.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 24-Nov-2016, at 11:42 AM, Ajay Minocha 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Both Paytm and Mobiquick are 100% accessible on android.
>>>
 On 11/24/16, Shantanu Choudhury  wrote:
 I have been using freecharge  app on i phone which is fully 
 accessible.You can do mobile recharge, DTH recharge, pay 
 electricity, gas bills etc.

> On 11/24/16, Suryajyothimetlapalli 
> 
> wrote:
> These apps are very much accessible on i o s for  utility payments.
> 1. Paytm
> Recharge, Bill Payment & Wallet by Paytm Mobile Solutions 
> https://appsto.re/in/cA8pC.i
>
>
> 2. Cube bills
> Cube Bills: Simple Payments by www.bankoncube.com 
> https://appsto.re/in/Iars5.i
>
>
> We can also use mobile banking  for recharges and other payments.
> One should have a bank account to use mobile banking.
>
> I am an user of state bank freedom which is very accessible.
>
> We can also go for some  websites which are quite accessible on i 
> o s browzer (safari).
> I use
> http://www.easymobilerecharge.com/m/recharge.php#menu
>
> In which we can use multiple modes of payments like Internet 
> banking, credit card, debit card etc. For recharges.
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
> Smiling is a part of life.
> But smiling in all the situations is an art of life.
> Thanks and Regards,
> M. Surya jyothi,
>
> CCT, SBH,
> RC Puram, Medak, Telangana.
> Sent from my I PHONE.
>
>> On 24-Nov-2016, at 7:49 AM, Aravind R 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Pay TM on iPhone is reasonably accessible. i'm able to recharge 
>> from net banking and travel cashless in uber taxi. purchasing 
>> from malls needs to be explored. mobi quick also i have to try. i 
>> heard that in android, Pay tm is not accessible.
>>
>>> On 11/24/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>> you can try mobikwik.com also home page of some net banking 
>>> provides bills and utility payment links. you can visit your 
>>> banks internet banking website.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "P L VERMA" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia:" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:27 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] Accessability of PayTM With iPhone
>>>
>>>
 friends,
 please advise and suggest other apps  for the purpose of making 
 cashless payments.
 thanks.


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Re: [AI] A slightly difficult question

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
A small suggestion, as his mind is very active, I suppose, he would want to 
communicate by writing. 
His problem would be of writing in a straight line. For that, you can roll a 
sheet of paper, flatten it and give him the strip of line to write. I am sure 
he will figure it how to use it once he is introduced to it.

Again chess board, rubec's cube  can be some form of recreation.There are some 
other tactile games.taking him outdoor even on a wheel chair would probably 
also make him feel good.
 
Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 1:41 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] A slightly difficult question

Does the senior citizen not have some hearing aid? If he cannot hear at all 
with some device then I may not have a solution.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Penny Tony
Sent: 22 November 2016 20:07
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] A slightly difficult question

Dear All,
Someone was asking me for suggestions for a very elderly man(90 years
old) who has lost his sight and hearing as well.
He was someone who liked to have contact with people and to always keep busy 
doing something. Inspite of his age, his mind is still active but he is now 
restricted to his bed as his caretakers don't want him to move around since 
they are afraid that he will hurt himself.
One of his friends however who feels very concerned about him going through 
this, was asking me if there was anything that the elderly man could do that he 
could  occupy his mind and time with.
Would anyone have any suggestions  on this age related disability concern?
Sincerely
Penny


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Re: [AI] Any accessibility features in new Rs. 500 and Rs. 2000 currency notes?

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
If I had my way, I would pitch for neither  notes or coins rather strengthen 
the digital currency like e-wallets which can technically be made accessible 
and we can have full control of it.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Lyngdoh
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:18 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Any accessibility features in new Rs. 500 and Rs. 2000 
currency notes?

Hi all,

I think RBI should scrap currency notes but instead introduce coins.
Let there be 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 500 & 2000 rupee coins with different 
sizes and thickness with some extra features like dots or markings on each one 
of them.
Why I am saying this is because in coins it is very easy to identify just by 
feeling their respective sizes and thickness.
And if RBI tries to put some dots on such coins, it will not be erasable so 
easily.
Think about this suggestion.
Of course I and many amongst us in this list have few ideas on how to do it if 
RBI only have the willingness to reach us. Do we guys?
And before I leave, let me say one thing.
If coins will be introduced, people will start complaining about the weight and 
the difficulty to carry too many coins in their pockets or in the new purses 
and wallets that will be available then.
So, it depends a lot on the government's will and might to include our 
community in making us all really independent from this current problem we are 
facing right now (currency identification).

On 11/17/16, George Abraham  wrote:
> I believe sizes, colours and large print are the only indicators that 
> will stand the test of time.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Mahendra Galani
> Sent: 17 November 2016 12:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Any accessibility features in new Rs. 500 and Rs. 
> 2000 currency notes?
>
> i am toled, that in Switzerland they have stopd braille marking on the 
> notes for same reason.
> At 11:01 AM 11/17/2016 +0530, you wrote:
>>I have studied the currency of many countries and the identification 
>>difficulties for the blind.
>>The marks on the currency notes fade away with usage and cannot be 
>>relied upon. One should use currency identification device to 
>>recognize them with accuracy and confidence.
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
>>Of Amiyo Biswas
>>Sent: 17 November 2016 08:57
>>To: B. R. Nautial; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility 
>>and issues concerning the disabled.
>>Subject: Re: [AI] Any accessibility features in new Rs. 500 and Rs. 
>>2000 currency notes?
>>
>>This means that this feature may not be tangible for all of us.
>>
>>With best regards,
>>Amiyo Biswas
>>Cell: 9433464329
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "B. R. Nautial" 
>>To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
>>the disabled." 
>>Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 8:38 AM
>>Subject: Re: [AI] Any accessibility features in new Rs. 500 and Rs. 
>>2000 currency notes?
>>
>>
>> > No use of these features at all
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "bhawani shankar verma" 
>> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> > concerning the disabled." 
>> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:17 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Any accessibility features in new Rs. 500 and Rs.
>> > 2000 currency notes?
>> >
>> >
>> >> but only on new currency.  it will fade gradually as the note get old.
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "rajendra dhurve" 
>> >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> >> concerning the disabled." 
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 10:50 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Any accessibility features in new Rs. 500 and Rs.
>> >> 2000 currency notes?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Friends... even I'm also  carrying a couple of Rs2000 Note. and 
>> >>> for the identification, it carries A minute Oval shape on the 
>> >>> extreme right corner of it at the top!!
>> >>> I also noticed another feature that the lines which are written 
>> >>> above and at the Left hand side, it is engraved properly so that 
>> >>> we can touch it quickly with an ease!!
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11/16/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>  I've heard these new currency notes are not water proof, so what 
>>  if the notes get washed?
>>    - Original Message -
>>    From: bhawani shankar verma
>>    To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
>>  issues concerning the disabled.
>>    Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 12:05 PM
>>    Subject: Re: [AI] Any accessibility features in new Rs. 500 
>>  and
> Rs.
>>  2000
>>  currency notes?
>>

[AI] Accessibility features in new notes

[Kotian, H P]

All
The circle in 500 rupees and a horizontal rectangle in 2000 rupees are the 
identification marks in new design. Only they are shifted to the right of the 
notes along with Ashoka Pillar emblem. Also intaglio continues.

Harish




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[AI] Premier of marathi movieKaul

[Kotian, H P]

All
I spoke to Bashir Desai, he told me the script is developed in such a way, a 
blind person can follow this movie without audio description.
Anyways, taking this in face value, pl find below an invite for the special 
premier. This would be more relevant for folks from Mumbai. 
Harish Kotian


-- Forwarded message --
From: bashir desai 
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 13:21:22 +0530
Subject: Fwd: Kaul Premier
To: 1947@gmail.com
"Hello All"

This is Bashir Desai from Chinup Films.
The reason to connect to you is that we are organising an Exclusive premier of 
our Marathi Language Feature Film "KAUL".
We would be happy to have  150 Visually impaired audience to experience our 
film.

Since this film is in Marathi we would prefer to have Marathi Language 
understanding audience.

The Screening will take place on November 12th (Coming Saturday) 2106.

Venue: PVR Cinemas,Phoenix Mall, Lower Parel.
Screen : 5.

Time:6.00pm

Duration : 2hrs.

Kindly Contact Munir or Me for any details.

Thanking Your,

For Chinup Films

Bashir Desai
M:9167324406



--
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--
Blind Persons' Association (Mumbai)
Cotton Green,
Mumbai - 400 033.
Contact No. 2375 8680
Website: www.bpamumbai.org



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Blind Persons' Association (Mumbai)
Cotton Green,
Mumbai - 400 033.
Contact No. 2375 8680
Website: www.bpamumbai.org



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Blind Persons' Association (Mumbai)
Cotton Green,
Mumbai - 400 033.
Contact No. 2375 8680
Website: www.bpamumbai.org



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[AI] ModeratorRE: Accessible audio recorder & player

[Kotian, H P]

All
Pl direct all mobile related queries on the list dedicated for it. Subscription 
to this list is in the footer of every mails.

Members are also requested not to respond to mobiles queries here.
Regards
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
rajendra dhurve
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 4:57 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessible audio recorder & player

For different works, u need different apps!! So u may go for MX Player to play 
ur Audios and to record the Audios, I already mentioned in ur another mail.
That is: Voice recorder to record your study stuff!
Cheers:


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>
> I am Saravanan from Bangalore.
> I am inneed of accessible audio player with recording facility.
> If any of you having idea about this pls share the information with me.
>
> Thanks
> Saravanan.K
> +91 9916512402
>
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Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
I am really confused now. Article 263 talks about setting up of inter state 
council. I don't see the connection with thedisability authentication system 
discussed here.
I may be corrected off-line please.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ghanshyam Asudani
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:06 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

hi
having gone through reactions and comments it seems everybody is confused 
regarding relevance and utility of this so-called unique identity card. only 
Harish Kotian appears to be optimistic about its success.
considering previous experiences, it does not promise much hope. what is needed 
is a positive change in negative mindset of those who are at the helm of 
affairs. they must sincerely make efforts to do something concrete rather than 
merely filling up files to augment their position.
if they really know article 263, then in my opinion only one card--say 
AADHAR--should suffice to prove one's disability.
beside proving that a person is really disabled what other purpose do all these 
cards serve?
hope wisdom shall prevail and things shall be simplified.

On 10/25/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
> To get unique disability I-card online. Please visit URL.
> http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in
> or
> https://t.co/raM1wKiE6c
>
> Tips for filling disability ID online form:
>
> 1.Form has bilingual fields in English and Hindi for personal info
> and address. Typing in Hindi is tricky. It is phonetic typing. It 
> shows suggestions list if you press backspace for editing.
> 2.There is a check box for permanent address as 'same as above' as
> present/correspondence.  However it is placed at the bottom so high 
> chances that we will miss it.
> 3.There is an option if you already have disability certificate to
> upload.  So a radio button option yes or no.
> 4.You can update your details after submission by logging in with
> provided enrolment no and DOB.  You get enrollment number after 
> successful registration.
> 5.Before final form submission and for log in with enrollment
> number there are image and audio option CAPTCHA.
> 6.Please keep following info handy.
> a.Your online disability certificate no. and date of issue
> b.Your identity proof info
> c.Your aadhar number
> d.Percentage of disability, category, etc.
> e.All relevant personal and address details
> 7.Please make sure you have following files ready for upload
> a.Signature / Thumb / Other Print
> Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 3 KB to 100 KB allowed)
> b.Photo *
> (Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 15 KB to 200 KB allowed)
> c.Upload Proof of Correspondence Address*
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> d.Caste Certificate
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> e.Nature of Document for Address Proof* : select option from voter
> id, aadhar card, ration card, etc.
> f.Proof of Correspondence Address*
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> g.Disability Certificate*
> (Only jpeg, jpg, png and pdf with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> h.Upload Identity Proof *
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
>
> Online Application Guide
> (Source: http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in/cms/online-application-guide )
> Step1: Person with Disability will click on register link to register
> with UDID Web Portal.
> Step2: Using credentials PwD logs in to system and click “Apply online
> for Disability Certificate. Reads instructions and fills up online 
> application.
> Step3: Upload color passport photo and other requisite documents like
> Income Proof, Identity Proof and SC/ST/OBC proof as required.
> Step4: Submits data to CMO Office/Medical Authority.
> Step5: CMO Office/Medical Authority verifies data.
> Step6: CMO Office/Medical Authority assigns the concerned specialist(s)
> for assessment.
> Step7: Specialist Doctor assesses disability of PwD and gives opinion
> on disability.
> Step8: Medical Board reviews the case and assign disability percentage.
> CMO Office prepares Disability Certificate and generates UDID and 
> Disability Certificate.
> Step9: UDID datasheet goes for UDID Card printing and Card dispatched
> to PwD.
>
> You can check your Medical Authority - 
> http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in/findNearestMedicalAutority
> Table showing details as
> CMO Office
> Address
> Contact Person
> Email ID
>
> At the end your can download receipt and your submitted form details 
> in pdf format.
>
> There is a link on the site to download pdf registration form which 
> can be printed and filled as hard copy.
>
> Hope th

Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
When Adhar got introduced, it was yet another government document like voter id 
etc. However, now the Adhar infra structure has many applications built around 
it like the attendance system, direct transfer of subsidy etc.

Similarly, applications like railway reservation, bus pass , school admissions 
would be built around this system to authenticate disability.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Naresh Kumar
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 3:03 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

I find this card quite useless since for different things one requires 
different proofs. Would it work for railway reservation. Day-by-day government 
is trying to bring everyone under surveylence through such mechanisms and it is 
one of such types of things. But better to get it done because in a few days we 
will be asked if we have such card. I would request all NGOs to pursue a case 
to the agency that issues adhar card for mentioning the disability on the same 
card only. A disabled can show his/her disability certificate while getting 
adhar made. Actually this is a piecemeal thinking of the authorities that 
reflects behind all these moves. Very soon we will be in trouble when railways 
will ask us to provide adhar, railway disability id and this 'unique disability 
id' not just online but while travelling also. NGOs should think seriously if 
my thoughts make sense.
Naresh

On 10/25/16, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> So, shall I become non-disabled if I do not carry this editional burden?
> Smile!
>
> Besides, the procedure is so long, you know.
> Even job application I had filled was not so long.
>
> Will it replace all existing proofs of my inability?
> like aadhar, unique id proof?
> Smile.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:16 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form
>
> you have to carry additional document to prove your disability.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:31 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form
>
> Unique in what sense?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Prashant Naik
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:06 PM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form
>
> To get unique disability I-card online. Please visit URL.
> http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in
> or
> https://t.co/raM1wKiE6c
>
> Tips for filling disability ID online form:
>
> 1.Form has bilingual fields in English and Hindi for personal info
> and address. Typing in Hindi is tricky. It is phonetic typing. It 
> shows suggestions list if you press backspace for editing.
> 2.There is a check box for permanent address as 'same as above' as
> present/correspondence.  However it is placed at the bottom so high 
> chances that we will miss it.
> 3.There is an option if you already have disability certificate to
> upload.  So a radio button option yes or no.
> 4.You can update your details after submission by logging in with
> provided enrolment no and DOB.  You get enrollment number after 
> successful registration.
> 5.Before final form submission and for log in with enrollment
> number there are image and audio option CAPTCHA.
> 6.Please keep following info handy.
> a.Your online disability certificate no. and date of issue
> b.Your identity proof info
> c.Your aadhar number
> d.Percentage of disability, category, etc.
> e.All relevant personal and address details
> 7.Please make sure you have following files ready for upload
> a.Signature / Thumb / Other Print
> Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 3 KB to 100 KB allowed)
> b.Photo *
> (Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 15 KB to 200 KB allowed)
> c.Upload Proof of Correspondence Address*
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> d.Caste Certificate
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> e.Nature of Document for Address Proof* : select option from voter
> id, aadhar card, ration card, etc.
> f.Proof of Correspondence Address*
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> g.Disability Certificate*
> (Only jpeg, jpg, png and pdf with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> h.Upload Identity Proof *
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with si

Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
To my understanding, this is Adhar plus with disability info. This should 
override other disability cards in the future.
In the past, the government had issued disability cards.There was no Adhar then 
nor the concept of online. By using this card, the disability can also be 
authenticated like Adhar.

This is indeed a step in the right direction. It may be cumbersome one time. 
However, it should bring much relief. Anything new always seem daunting.

Harish Kotian
 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:52 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

Then, the Adhaar is enough. Its also not identical.

On 10/25/16, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Well, the card number is unique. No 2 persons shall have the same UID 
> number Regards Harish Kotian
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:32 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form
>
> Unique in what sense?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Prashant Naik
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:06 PM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form
>
> To get unique disability I-card online. Please visit URL.
> http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in
> or
> https://t.co/raM1wKiE6c
>
> Tips for filling disability ID online form:
>
> 1.Form has bilingual fields in English and Hindi for personal info
> and address. Typing in Hindi is tricky. It is phonetic typing. It 
> shows suggestions list if you press backspace for editing.
> 2.There is a check box for permanent address as 'same as above' as
> present/correspondence.  However it is placed at the bottom so high 
> chances that we will miss it.
> 3.There is an option if you already have disability certificate to
> upload.  So a radio button option yes or no.
> 4.You can update your details after submission by logging in with
> provided enrolment no and DOB.  You get enrollment number after 
> successful registration.
> 5.Before final form submission and for log in with enrollment
> number there are image and audio option CAPTCHA.
> 6.Please keep following info handy.
> a.Your online disability certificate no. and date of issue
> b.Your identity proof info
> c.Your aadhar number
> d.Percentage of disability, category, etc.
> e.All relevant personal and address details
> 7.Please make sure you have following files ready for upload
> a.Signature / Thumb / Other Print
> Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 3 KB to 100 KB allowed)
> b.Photo *
> (Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 15 KB to 200 KB allowed)
> c.Upload Proof of Correspondence Address*
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> d.Caste Certificate
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> e.Nature of Document for Address Proof* : select option from voter
> id, aadhar card, ration card, etc.
> f.Proof of Correspondence Address*
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> g.Disability Certificate*
> (Only jpeg, jpg, png and pdf with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> h.Upload Identity Proof *
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
>
> Online Application Guide
> (Source: http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in/cms/online-application-guide )
> Step1: Person with Disability will click on register link to register
> with UDID Web Portal.
> Step2: Using credentials PwD logs in to system and click “Apply online
> for Disability Certificate. Reads instructions and fills up online 
> application.
> Step3: Upload color passport photo and other requisite documents like
> Income Proof, Identity Proof and SC/ST/OBC proof as required.
> Step4: Submits data to CMO Office/Medical Authority.
> Step5: CMO Office/Medical Authority verifies data.
> Step6: CMO Office/Medical Authority assigns the concerned specialist(s)
> for assessment.
> Step7: Specialist Doctor assesses disability of PwD and gives opinion
> on disability.
> Step8: Medical Board reviews the case and assign disability percentage.
> CMO Office prepares Disability Certificate and generates UDID and 
> Disability Ce

Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
I had occasion to meet her. She does not use computers really.

I don't think it is a good idea to share contact info. I think, they can write 
to the college should they want to correspond  with her.
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:47 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

I am not able to submit the UID form after philling all detail When I enter
the next then second page does not open any tric please.
Thanks and regard
HS Negi

- Original Message -
From: "Prashant Naik" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:05 PM
Subject: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form


> To get unique disability I-card online. Please visit URL.
> http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in
> or
> https://t.co/raM1wKiE6c
>
> Tips for filling disability ID online form:
>
> 1.Form has bilingual fields in English and Hindi for personal info
> and address. Typing in Hindi is tricky. It is phonetic typing. It shows
> suggestions list if you press backspace for editing.
> 2.There is a check box for permanent address as 'same as above' as
> present/correspondence.  However it is placed at the bottom so high
> chances
> that we will miss it.
> 3.There is an option if you already have disability certificate to
> upload.  So a radio button option yes or no.
> 4.You can update your details after submission by logging in with
> provided enrolment no and DOB.  You get enrollment number after successful
> registration.
> 5.Before final form submission and for log in with enrollment
> number there are image and audio option CAPTCHA.
> 6.Please keep following info handy.
> a.Your online disability certificate no. and date of issue
> b.Your identity proof info
> c.Your aadhar number
> d.Percentage of disability, category, etc.
> e.All relevant personal and address details
> 7.Please make sure you have following files ready for upload
> a.Signature / Thumb / Other Print
> Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 3 KB to 100 KB allowed)
> b.Photo *
> (Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 15 KB to 200 KB allowed)
> c.Upload Proof of Correspondence Address*
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> d.Caste Certificate
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> e.Nature of Document for Address Proof* : select option from voter
> id, aadhar card, ration card, etc.
> f.Proof of Correspondence Address*
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> g.Disability Certificate*
> (Only jpeg, jpg, png and pdf with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
> h.Upload Identity Proof *
> (Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
>
> Online Application Guide
> (Source: http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in/cms/online-application-guide )
> Step1: Person with Disability will click on register link to register
> with UDID Web Portal.
> Step2: Using credentials PwD logs in to system and click “Apply online
> for Disability Certificate. Reads instructions and fills up online
> application.
> Step3: Upload color passport photo and other requisite documents like
> Income Proof, Identity Proof and SC/ST/OBC proof as required.
> Step4: Submits data to CMO Office/Medical Authority.
> Step5: CMO Office/Medical Authority verifies data.
> Step6: CMO Office/Medical Authority assigns the concerned
> specialist(s)
> for assessment.
> Step7: Specialist Doctor assesses disability of PwD and gives opinion
> on disability.
> Step8: Medical Board reviews the case and assign disability
> percentage.
> CMO Office prepares Disability Certificate and generates UDID and
> Disability Certificate.
> Step9: UDID datasheet goes for UDID Card printing and Card dispatched
> to PwD.
>
> You can check your Medical Authority -
> http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in/findNearestMedicalAutority
> Table showing details as
> CMO Office
> Address
> Contact Person
> Email ID
>
> At the end your can download receipt and your submitted form details in
> pdf
> format.
>
> There is a link on the site to download pdf registration form which can be
> printed and filled as hard copy.
>
> Hope this info is useful.
>
> Regards,
> Prashant Naik
>
> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
> mobile phones / Tabs on:
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Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

[Kotian, H P]

Well, the card number is unique. No 2 persons shall have the same UID number
Regards
Harish Kotian
 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:32 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

Unique in what sense?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Naik
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:06 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Tips for filling disability ID online form

To get unique disability I-card online. Please visit URL.
http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in
or
https://t.co/raM1wKiE6c

Tips for filling disability ID online form:

1.Form has bilingual fields in English and Hindi for personal info
and address. Typing in Hindi is tricky. It is phonetic typing. It shows 
suggestions list if you press backspace for editing.
2.There is a check box for permanent address as 'same as above' as
present/correspondence.  However it is placed at the bottom so high chances 
that we will miss it.
3.There is an option if you already have disability certificate to
upload.  So a radio button option yes or no.
4.You can update your details after submission by logging in with
provided enrolment no and DOB.  You get enrollment number after successful 
registration.
5.Before final form submission and for log in with enrollment
number there are image and audio option CAPTCHA.
6.Please keep following info handy.
a.Your online disability certificate no. and date of issue
b.Your identity proof info
c.Your aadhar number
d.Percentage of disability, category, etc.
e.All relevant personal and address details
7.Please make sure you have following files ready for upload
a.Signature / Thumb / Other Print
Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 3 KB to 100 KB allowed)
b.Photo *
(Only jpeg, jpg, gif and png image with size 15 KB to 200 KB allowed)
c.Upload Proof of Correspondence Address*
(Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
d.Caste Certificate
(Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
e.Nature of Document for Address Proof* : select option from voter
id, aadhar card, ration card, etc.
f.Proof of Correspondence Address*
(Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
g.Disability Certificate*
(Only jpeg, jpg, png and pdf with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)
h.Upload Identity Proof *
(Only jpeg, jpg and png with size 10 KB to 800 KB allowed)

Online Application Guide
(Source: http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in/cms/online-application-guide )
Step1: Person with Disability will click on register link to register
with UDID Web Portal.
Step2: Using credentials PwD logs in to system and click “Apply online
for Disability Certificate. Reads instructions and fills up online application.
Step3: Upload color passport photo and other requisite documents like
Income Proof, Identity Proof and SC/ST/OBC proof as required.
Step4: Submits data to CMO Office/Medical Authority.
Step5: CMO Office/Medical Authority verifies data.
Step6: CMO Office/Medical Authority assigns the concerned specialist(s)
for assessment.
Step7: Specialist Doctor assesses disability of PwD and gives opinion
on disability.
Step8: Medical Board reviews the case and assign disability percentage.
CMO Office prepares Disability Certificate and generates UDID and Disability 
Certificate.
Step9: UDID datasheet goes for UDID Card printing and Card dispatched
to PwD.

You can check your Medical Authority -
http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in/findNearestMedicalAutority
Table showing details as
CMO Office
Address
Contact Person
Email ID

At the end your can download receipt and your submitted form details in pdf 
format.

There is a link on the site to download pdf registration form which can be 
printed and filled as hard copy.

Hope this info is useful.

Regards,
Prashant Naik

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[AI] Top 10 predictions for IT companies in 2017 and beyond

[Kotian, H P]

All
Forwarding this post, to get a better perspective of things to come and it is 
necessary to keep a look out for any accessibility challenges as a result of 
these inovations.
Harish Kotian

Top 10 predictions for IT companies in 2017 and beyond
Ranjani Ayyar| TNN | Updated: Oct 19, 2016, 18:32 IST
Gartner has revealed its top 10 predictions for IT companies and users in 2017 
and beyond.
Gartner has revealed its top 10 predictions for IT companies and users in 2017 
and beyond.
CHENNAI: Gartner on Wednesday revealed its top 10 predictions for IT companies 
and users in 2017 and beyond. Gartner's top predictions for 2017 examine three 
fundamental effects of continued digital innovation: experience and engagement, 
business innovation, and the secondary effects that result from increased 
digital capabilities.

"Gartner's top strategic predictions continue to offer a provocative look at 
what might happen in some of the most critical areas of technology evolution. 
At the core of future outcomes is the notion of digital disruption, which has 
moved from an infrequent inconvenience to a consistent stream of change that is 
redefining markets and entire industries," said Daryl Plummer, managing 
vice-president, chief of research and Gartner Fellow.

"Last year, we said digital changes were coming fast. This year the 
acceleration continues and may cause secondary effects that have wide-ranging 
impact on people and technology," Plummer.

The following are the predictions made by Gartner

By 2020, 100 million consumers will shop in augmented reality

The popularity of augmented reality (AR) applications, such as Pokemon GO, will 
help bring AR into the mainstream, prompting more retailers to incorporate it 
into the shopping experience. As mobile device usage becomes an ingrained 
behaviour, further blurring the lines between the physical and digital worlds, 
brands and their retail partners will need to develop mechanisms to leverage 
this behaviour to enhance the shopping experience. For example, a consumer 
pointing the IKEA catalog app at a room in his home can "place" furniture where 
he'd like it to go. This real-world element differentiates AR apps from those 
offering virtual reality (VR).

By 2020, 30% of web browsing sessions will be done without a screen

New audio-centric technologies, such as Google Home and Amazon's Echo, are 
making access to dialogue-based information ubiquitous and spawning new 
platforms based on "voice-first" interactions. By eliminating the need to use 
ones' hands and eyes for browsing, vocal interactions extend the utility of web 
sessions to contexts such as driving, cooking, walking, socialising, exercising 
and operating machinery. As a result, the share of waking hours devoid of 
instant access to online resources will approach zero.

By 2019, 20% of brands will abandon their mobile apps

Many brands are finding that the level of adoption, customer engagement and 
return on investment (ROI) delivered by their mobile applications are 
significantly less than the expectations that underpinned their app investment. 
New approaches are emerging that have a lower barrier to discovery and install 
and offer levels of engagement that approach those of applications at a 
fraction of the investment, support and marketing cost.

By 2020, algorithms will positively alter the behaviour of more than 1 billion 
global workers global workers

Contextualisation algorithms have advanced exponentially to include a variety 
of behavioural interventions such as psychology, social neuroscience and 
cognitive science. Human beings tend to be emotionally charged and factually 
drained, causing them to be irrational.

Algorithms can positively alter that behaviour by augmenting their intelligence 
with the large collective memory bank containing knowledge that has been 
socialised and put to the test. This will help workers "remember" anything or 
be informed of just-in-time knowledge that they have never even experienced, 
leaving them to objectively complete the task at hand but also to better 
appreciate life as it unveils.

By 2022, a blockchain-based business will be worth $10 billion

Blockchain technology is established as the next revolution in transaction 
recording. A blockchain ledger provides an immutable, shared view of all 
transactions between engaging parties. Parties can therefore immediately act on 
a committed blockchain record, secure in the knowledge that it cannot be 
changed. Any kind of value exchange can happen in minutes, not days. Blockchain 
applications can free up cash, reduce transaction costs, and accelerate 
business processes.

By 2021, 20% of all activities an individual engages in will involve at least 
one of the top-seven digital giants

The current top-seven digital giants by revenue and market capitalisation are 
Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent. As the physical, 
financial and healthcare world becomes more digital, many 

Re: [AI] Not receiving mails

[Kotian, H P]

All
All those who are receiving mails in digest mode are having this trouble. 
Should you be aware of anyone who are not getting AI mails, please request them 
to change the mail delivery to individual mails instead of digest mail.

Once this issue is resolved, I shall intimate to the list, thereafter they can 
reset back to digest mode.
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Harish Kotian

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Dear Moderator,

Hi i am Kriti Banga. I would like to bring to your notice that I am not 
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[AI] Moderator: off-topicRE: Dosti 1964 and Hamrahi 1966 make you feel that what unites India and Pakistan is more powerful than what divides us

[Kotian, H P]

All

Traffic is closed on this thread.
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:55 AM
To: accessindia ; jnuvision 

Subject: [AI] Dosti 1964 and Hamrahi 1966 make you feel that what unites India 
and Pakistan is more powerful than what divides us

Kindly share this on our Whatsap group also.
Dosti and Hamrahi, two films that feel like mirror images, make you feel that 
what unites India and Pakistan is more powerful than what divides us 
http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/dosti-and-hamrahi-make-you-feel-that-what-unites-india-and-pakistan-is-more-powerful-than-what-divides-us/article9235157.ece
Every time there is a freeze in India-Pakistan relations, a section of the 
population goes out of its way to create a false dichotomy between the two 
nations.
The efforts extend to denial of visas, expulsion of artists, cancellation of 
people-to-people ties, all in the name of national interest. It is completely 
overlooked that the cultures that form a common bond between us predate the 
creation of our countries by several centuries. Most of the languages spoken 
there — like Punjabi, Urdu and Pashto — have their equivalent forms here. Many 
of their art forms — like ghazal and qawwali styles of singing, kathak and 
bhangra dances — have an Indian connection. Naturally, themes that form part of 
our cinema find their reflection there and vice-versa. By extension, artistes 
from there become part of our cinema.

A look at two films — Dosti and Hamrahi — released in the mid-60s reveals that 
though Pakistan’s identity was premised on an opposition to India on religious 
grounds, the concerns of its ordinary citizens were no different from our own. 
Dosti (1964), was a classical tale of the triumph of the underdog, made during 
the Nehruvian-era of idealism and hope. Hamrahi (1966) was only slightly 
different in context, set as it was in the aftermath of the India-Pakistan war 
of 1965.

A viewing of the two films reveals that though the two nations were in conflict 
at their borders, their problems — poverty, illiteracy, unemployment, lack of 
health facilities — were similar. Both Dosti andHamrahi are about two 
teenagers, disabled by fate and accident, helping each other add meaning to 
their lives. Ramu (Dosti) and Naami (Hamrahi) lose their mobility in accident, 
their mothers to illness, and their education to poverty.
When desperation makes
them hit the streets, they have an encounter with exceptional talent:
Ramu meets Mohan, while Naami meets Yousaf—both without eyesight but blessed 
with natural singing talent. The street-singing of the blind troubadours, and 
the money and recognition they earn, helps the lead protagonists achieve 
educational excellence.

Both films strive to create the prototype of an ideal citizen out of their lead 
characters. As a result, they now come across as moral science lessons, as 
testified by their different aspects: Physical handicap or poverty need not act 
as an impediment to pursuing education; an ideal friend is a selfless 
companion; a compassionate teacher can be more than just a mentor.
Ramu’s mother wants him to emulate leaders like Jawaharlal Nehru and Subhas 
Chandra Bose, while Naami’s mother wants him to be as accomplished as the 
‘Quaid-e-Azam’ (Mohammad Ali Jinnah) and and Allama Iqbal. However, what 
prevents the films from turning into a documentary is the music, and the 
melodrama.

Laxmikant-Pyarelal’s tunes, with a young R. D. Burman playing the harmonica for 
Ramu, Majrooh Sultanpuri’s lyrics and Mohammad Rafi’s singing catapulted 
Dosti’s album to timelessness. The music of Hamrahi, composed by Tassaduq 
Hussain whose musical roots were in the Hindustani Patiala gharana, sounds 
fairly similar. The lyrics, the tunes, the singing style, all sound so 
identical that it is easy to see the two albums as part of a continuum.

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videovideo
Jaane Walon Zara - Dosti - Sudhir Kumar & Sushil Kumar - Bollywood Classic Song 
Share Watch Jaane Walon Zara - Dosti - Sudhir Kumar & Sushil Kumar - Bollywood 
Classic Song document end embed/tjB61sfhojo frame end

The first Dosti song, ‘Ek Insan Hoon Main Tumhari Tarah’ (‘I’m a human being 
just like all of you’) is placed in a situation where Mohan calls attention not 
just to his own plight, but to other poor, disabled people people like him.

embed/M04yJHvksQw frame
document
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KOYEE JAB RAAH NA PAAYE -RAFI-(DOSTI 1964)MAJROOH-LAXMIKANT PYARELAL Share 
Watch KOYEE JAB RAAH NA PAAYE -RAFI-(DOSTI 1964)MAJROOH-LAXMIKANT PYARELAL 
document end embed/M04yJHvksQw frame end

Its equivalent lyrics in Hamrahi are: ‘Dekhi Lo Mujhko Ki Tum Jaisa Hoon Main’ 
(‘I’m just as much a human being like you’). ‘Meri Dosti Mera Pyaar’ (‘My 
friendship acts as a beacon’) becomes ‘Raah Dikhlaaye Mera Pyar Mujhe’
(It is my friendship that guides me).

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[AI] Moderator: Problem in digest mail delivery

[Kotian, H P]

All

It has come to my notice, that those who are subscribed to the list in digest 
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I am trying to reach concerned persons for its resolution,

You may either switch to individual mails until the issue is resolved or follow 
the archieve, the url is given in the signature line of everyAI mails.

Regret the inconvenience.
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[AI] Moderator: off-topicRE: truth about china.

[Kotian, H P]

All
This is grosely off-topic. All members are advised to adhere to the list 
guidelines.
Such off-topic posts shall be dealt strictly. This is a warning message for now 
but if there more such messages, I shall deal strictly without any more 
warnings.
Regards
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
aryan
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 9:42 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] truth about china.

please read this

Don't know who wrote it
Not aware of its source and authenticity , so not endorsing it however 
considering it to worth reading at least once !
Attack on Uri army camp in India, by Pakistani terrorists.
Response.
It can be economic blockade.
It can be water stoppage for Sindhu and five rivers of Punjab going into 
Pakistan, or Surgical strikes inside.
But the big question is.. Can India attack Pakistan this week?
But still.. 69 years of handling of Jammu and Kashmir by India is something we 
have to look at right now. Can India afford to hit Pakistan where it hurts the 
most, for Pakistan's obsession with Jihadi terror export all these decades?
It is must deeper than that.. Geo politics!
Pakistan  had even offered to give up East Pakistan in 1950s, in return for 
Jammu and Kashmir on the sidelines of official discussions with India! So 
definitely it is not religion or Kashmiris.. it is much deeper than that. It 
was water sources then, but now much more deeper Yes, water is an issue.
It is China..It is China and CPEC: The "thing" is the CPEC:
China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. If you look at it closely suddenly everything 
falls into place. Kashmir, Balochistan, India's unwillingness to strike, 
silence of international community, everything else. Pakistan is just a front.
The real sponsor is hiding behind.
Pakistan sponsors terrorism to get Kashmir. It is not that simple.
Pakistan kept the Kashmir flame burning until the 1990s to meet their ends, 
when China conceived the CPEC and decided to take over. A bit on the CPEC as no 
one seems to have heard about it. China has a huge geographic handicap: no 
access to southern world oceans.
So Chinese shipments from Europe, Middle East, Africa have to travel all the 
way around India, Malacca and ASEAN. China has serious problems with most 
countries in that region due to its aggressive military posture Why Pakistan is 
so important for Chinese economy? What if China could get a route through 
Pakistan to access the Arabian Sea?  That, is the CPEC. A corridor of highways 
and railways will run from Kashgar in China to Gwadar in Pakistan (Baluchistan) 
on the Arabian sea near Iran border.
And ALL the infrastructure and associated stuff for CPEC will be constructed 
for Pakistan by China, free or cost or for negligible loans.
What is CPEC?Four Six-lane Expressways from north to south Pakistan, four 
different routes. All main railway lines being upgraded to 160 kph double. A 
six to eight lane super expressway Karachi to Gwadar and Hyderabad Innumerable 
coal, thermal, solar and hydro power plants all across Pakistan. All of Gwadar, 
including a mega international airport!
Then Hospitals, schools, colleges, tech institutes, even a Metro line in Lahore!
But why is Jammu and Kashmir involved here?  Now, on the Karakoram highway, 
this is where it matters most for India. It connects China and Pakistan, though 
India! Through Jammu and Kashmir, which legally acceded
to India in 1947 October.   Gilgit Baltistan area of Jammu and Kashmir
state, which legally belongs to India, but illegally occupied by Pakistan. Keep 
in mind, China also occupies illegally the eastern and northern part of Jammu 
and Kashmir - Shaksgam valley (gifted by Pakistan in 1960s) and Aksai Chin 
(occupied by China in 1950s when it annexed Tibet).
The highway passes through Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.
Pakistan and China are connected through Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK for 
short). Pakistan calls this Gilgit-Baltistan area of Jammu and Kashmir, as 
Northern Territories sometimes.
A high-capacity highway across the Himalayas!
Now, though the CPEC is a recent thing, the idea had taken birth long back. The 
Karakoram highway started building in 1959, opened in 1979!
Possibly Pakistan had refused China access to Gwadar then as they could.
But now they have no other choice but hand over to China.
Why CPEC?OIL: Gwadar is just 400 km away from Muscat and 500
from the Strait of Hormuz through which all Gulf oil passes. 12 hours at sea! 
Proximity to Africa: China virtually owns much of Africa today.
Billions in investment, buys natural resources. Nothing better than this. 
Pakistan as a market: China will flood Pakistan and Gulf with its cheap 
products and make a windfall there too. Proximity to new friend Sri Lanka.If 
USA/UK (control Malacca strait - Singapore) or India in Indian ocean decide to 
choke it

Re: [AI] Regarding mails from AccessIndia,

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
You account was in order, I have made some small changes, perhaps, you should 
start getting the mails. However, old mails cannot be sent. You may check on 
the archieves. Link of this is in the footer of every AI mails.
What do you do Bhargav, how do you find the list, and where are you located.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:mailman-boun...@hwa3.ultrahost.us] On Behalf Of 
Bhargav Reddy
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:16 PM
To: accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Regarding mails from AccessIndia,

Respected moderator, I am not getting any mails from accessindia since 19th of 
this month, sir kindly rectify the issue and if possibel please send all the 
mails from 19th sep. this is the first time that I am facing such problem. 
hoping for positive response. with regards




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[AI] Moderator: Piracy-RE: Regarding Accessibility Issue

[Kotian, H P]

All
This thread is closed for all traffic.
Piracy is strictly prohibited on the list.
Regards
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sana Samad
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:49 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Regarding Accessibility Issue

I hope everyone is fine their. I am Sana pursuing MBA. I want to know that is 
IBM SPSS software accessible with JAWS. If it is accessible then to what extent 
and how to downloadit . I am using Del laptop windows 7. I had install JAWS15 
but by mistake after the setup has been installed I restarted the system and 
after the system got restarted I closed JAWS and cracked it. But it didn't 
crack. Then I again uninstall JAWS a long with its shared components. This time 
when I installed it I didn't restart the system after the setup was complete. I 
restarted only after cracking. But unfortunately JAWS is not cracked and it is 
running in 40 minute mode. I even checked user control account setting and 
brought the slider to 0%. I even installed JAWS17. But same problem is coming 
on JAWS17 also. I am sure you will address both my queries as soon as possible. 
Hoping for a positive.
Please reply on the ID mentioned below.
 Regards
   Sana Samad
Phone No.- 9899467078
Email Id: sanasamad...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] Want suggestions to purchase portable voice amplifier or loudspeaker

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
Check from Kores, I haven't seen it though.
I had researched sometime back for a similar requirement.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:47 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Want suggestions to purchase portable voice amplifier or 
loudspeaker

I heard there are portable voice amplifier or loudspeaker which you can carry 
in your laptop bag, these are useful for giving presentations and also to teach 
a classroom of 70 - 80 students.
Basically it may save you from shouting inside the classroom. So I want to 
purchase one of such voice amplifier. Therefore I want your suggestions for a 
good, easy to use and accessible system. I would like to purchase a wireless 
system if it is available, as you can wear the microphone around your neck and 
keep the amplifier at some place like on the table. So please suggest me 
something. your

--
Mohib Anwar Rafay

Phone: +919 555 555 765


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Re: [AI] question about sugamya pustakalaya

[Kotian, H P]

All

Why is it that queries are put on the list on Sugamya pustakalaya. Despite 
emails provided in numerous occasion

I have so far not intervened, considering the importance of this initiative. 
Now it seems, some of the members are indifferent to the needless load on 
traffic and consideration towards fellow members. This is not acceptable at all.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Navneet Dubey
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] question about sugamya pustakalaya

Dear friends,
I want to open my account on sugamya pustakalaya and I have read on this list 
that I have to upload my disability certificate in j p e g format but I have my 
certificate in p p t I e in the form of power point slide format. So please any 
body  tell can I upload it in p p t format or I have to change it  in to  j p e 
g if yes then how can I change it. Can prashant verma sir can help in this 
regard.
Thanks

navneet dubey


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[AI] Moderator: List guidelines

[Kotian, H P]

Dear Members of AccessIndia

With new members joining all the time, and with a view to promote healthy 
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Recommend interactions:

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5 Only moderator can prefix moderator: in the subject line. This is to attract 
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6 Do check on prior posting, Link for the same is available at the footer of 
each mail.
7 Do respect every member and do not downcast anyone. This would also include 
poor language skills. Should you desire to help fellow members, you may do so 
by private mail and not on the list.
8 Should you have any concern regarding any posting or any decisions of the 
moderator, please write to the moderator and not vitiate the list.
9 Do not drag a point or issue beyond a point. We do not run opinion poll.
10 If there is posting, which is otherwise off-topic but you desire to share it 
with the group, please obtain prior permission from the moderator
11 Please do not share contact details of third party / persons. This would be 
infringing on their privacy.
12 Please post to the appropriate list, i.e. mobile queries on the Mobile.AI 
list and the rest on the AI list.

13 Finally, be brief and to the point and write only if you have substantial to 
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Sincerely
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Moderator
AccessIndia
Email: har...@accessindia.org.in



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[AI] Moderator:RE: Painting exposes the blinding of people in Kashmir by the Indian State

[Kotian, H P]

This thread is closed for all traffic and action will be taken for persistently 
posting off-topic posts.
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
muruganandan.k
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:52 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Painting exposes the blinding of people in Kashmir by the Indian 
State

I could see several nationalist voices against my previous postings regarding 
this issue. Their contentions vividly mentioned that all the Kashmiri people 
are "anti-nationals", and that it is only proper that they are mercilessly 
blinded. If they think India can retain Kashmir only after blinding all the 
Kashmiri youth and at the cost of human suffering,, I don't understand what 
kind of nation they propagate for.
No nation State can retain a region or rule its people using arms and 
ammunition. This issue ought to be understood beyond the short-sighted 
nationalist uproars which are merely political in purpose and fanatic in 
nature. But I am certain that anyone with a rational mind and human heart will 
not approve such a systematic blinding, be it by any country or agency or 
organization I shall not respond to any replies to this post further.


news from today's The Hindu:

A ‘Kashmir Ki Kali’ poster wakes world to pellet blind spot Sharmila Tagore and 
Shammi Kapoor’s musical shikara romance mesmerized audiences in Kashmir Ki Kali 
five decades ago. Today, the valley is troubled and cartoonist Mir Suhail 
decided to visualise the darkness of eyes blinded by pellet guns through the 
iconic poster of the film featuring the two stars. Thus, Sharmila Tagore gazes 
down, one eye hit by pellets, in the recreated poster. It is one more artistic 
protest to focus the world’s attention on the effect of small pellets fired by 
security forces from crowd-control guns that is leaving people blind.
The number of young pellet victims with eyes badly affected has shot up to more 
than 300. Several artists in Kashmir are protesting, using creative expression 
to try and end the civilian deaths and crippling injuries in the demonstrations 
that have followed the killing of Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani on 
July 8. “My attempt to recreate the poster, where Sharmila Tagore is hit in one 
eye by pellets, and Shammi Kapoor has an expression of disgust, is to highlight 
the pain inflicted on this kali (girl). There is no romance left about the 
place or the people,” Mr. Suhail told The Hindu .
Another acclaimed artist, Masood Hussain, has come up with a series of grey 
scale posters of boys with shrunken, shikara -shaped pupils, again drawing 
attention to destroyed eyes. “It pains to see kids being blinded by pellets. 
All that an artist can do is stroke the canvas with that pain,” says Mr. 
Hussain, who has documented the daily life of ordinary Kashmiris for two 
decades now. Pellet gun injuries are fast growing in Kashmir: 50 more 
protesters were hit in their eyes just on Friday. Most of those affected are in 
the age group of 15 to 25. Asif Amin Tibet Baqual, founder and chief creative 
officer of BlackSheep.Works, a communication agency, sparked off a Twitter 
storm when his anti-pellet campaign generated 20 million impressions on the 
platform. Mr. Baqual produced three posters in Braille with messages
like: ‘Offensive state apparatus in Kashmir sees to it that dissent doesn’t see 
the light of day’.

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Re: [AI] some banking fecility denied in SBI for blind what to do?

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Vamshi
Would also please elaborate, the criteria for obtaining a green channel card? 
Moreover the procedure to change to this GCC card?

Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vamshi. G
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:27 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] some banking fecility denied in SBI for blind what to do?

Unfortunately, debit cards issued to visually challenged are not working in 
green channel counter (withdrawing and depositing cash at branch using debit 
card).  Green card can be used for the same which is very useful as the 
customer doesn't even need to key in the pin or fill any form.  There is no 
rule that says green card shouldn't be issued to visually challenged.  As far 
as using cash deposit machine is concerned, depositing cash without card will 
attract a service charge of Rs. 25 per transaction.  So, the best thing is to 
take a green card and use for depositing cash.  The issue of debit card usage 
at GCC by visually challenged has already been flagged by someone to the person 
concerned.




On 8/2/16, Pinkesh Tailor  wrote:
> Hi,
> legally a blind cannot be denied of any banking services. For CDM, any
> way ATM card is not required for depositing cash. And as far as
> transfer of money is concerned, SBI's internet banking is pretty
> accessible. Ask your friend to take internet banking, they should not
> decline that request. Even their mobile application "SBI freedom" is
> pretty accessible. Through mobile banking your friend can transfer
> money easily.
>
> Rgds,
>
> On 7/30/16, Yogesh J  wrote:
>> if you want to deposit money to your friend via counter green card is
>> require in sbi.
>>
>> On 7/30/16, Aravind Aralaguppe  wrote:
>>> What is the use of green Card
>>> On 30 Jul 2016 11:41, "Yogesh J"  wrote:
>>>
 good morning friends.
 one of my friend approach one SBI branch to open a new account some
 months ago.
  they opened the account and charged 200 for greencard and 200 for ATM.
 till now the green card is not activated.
 and he is not able to use this ATM to deposit money through cash
 deposit  machine.
 only used for money  withdrawal.
 the  bank clerk said we update you are visually impaired in your
 account so  you can't use CDM.
 and you can't  use  green card  also.
 to deposit money use chalan like  that.
 is there any provision
  like blind can't use CDM and green card like that?
 if not how to get this?
 kindly guide me.
 sorry for my long story.



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[AI] Computer training at NAB Delhi

[Kotian, H P]

This mail failed to get on the list and hence I am pasting it below.
Harish Kotian
Quoting:

Dear sir
I am Nilesh from Nasik Maharashtra. I am postgraduate in pharmacy and have 
working experience of 3 years in pharma sector as a QA officer.
But now I lost my sight before 6 months and I don't have the basic knowledge of 
JAWS but I am not totally blind I have a partial sight and I can use the 
computer using magnifier option so please let me know whether I will be 
eligible for this course or it will be great help for me if you could guide me 
for my future career.
Regards
Nilesh
mobile 99700 13693
Sent from my Mi phone
On Jul 28, 2016 5:48 PM, nab helpline  wrote:
Greetings from Nab Helpline

We are pleased to inform you that Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. -
Maitree, is conducting the 16th All India batch of Advanced Computer
Training Center (ACTC) for Visually Impaired. The training will be conducted
in the premises of our partnering organization; Mitra Jyothi, Bangalore.
This will be a 40-45 days residential training program and will tentatively
commence on 1th / 8th August 2016.

The course content is:
1. IT Infrastructure & Service Management
2. Building competency for the Business Process Outsourcing
3. Soft skills.

Course Fees:  Nil.

Accommodation & Food: Accommodation & Food (Breakfast, Lunch & Dinner) will
be provided at Mitra Jyothi, at a Nominal fees of Rs. 3,000/-. The remaining
cost of Training Material, Educational Outing and Food expenses will be
borne by TCS.

Eligibility Criteria:
1. Graduate in any stream.
2. Candidates should have basic knowledge of Computers.
3. Knowledge of JAWS (screen reader software) is compulsory.
4. Good Communications Skills





For more detail call us

01164556968




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Re: [AI] unable to instal NVDA

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
>From the system on whichNVDA is working properly, make a portable copy on a 
>pen drive. To make a portable copy, press insert+n for Nvda menu, thereafter 
>go to tools and you will find the option to make a portable copy. Do so on 
>your pen drive.

Take this pen drive on the new system and in the pen drive, execute the file 
nvda.exe it will show as type application.
If it works, follow the steps given above and under tools, you will find the 
option to install.
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Yogesh J
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:25 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] unable to instal NVDA

good day friends.
how are you all?
I have a different problem in my office.
I instal NVDA in one system successfully.
but when i try to instal it in another one I get the NVDA opening ding dong 
sound after that I didn't get any message or voice  like instal, runn like that.
what will be the problem?
kindly come up with your feedback.

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[AI] Moderator: RE: Regarding Nokia Lumea phone magnification

[Kotian, H P]

All
Continue this thread on the mobile.ai list please.
Harish Kotian


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Subject: [AI] Regarding Nokia Lumea phone magnification

Hello guys, as the subject says it all, one of my friend is in need of how to 
magnify on a Nokia  lumia device… She has a partial vision and that's the 
reason… Please do help… Thanks in advance

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[AI] Moderator: RE: Insight - The Magazine in Braille: Articles for the Second Edition

[Kotian, H P]

All
Pl correspond directly with the concerned persons and not clutter the list with 
enquiries etc.
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 7:23 AM
To: paya...@gmail.com 
Cc: insighthyd.edi...@gmail.com
Subject: [AI] Insight - The Magazine in Braille: Articles for the Second Edition

Dear Ma’am

I am writing this in connection with a call for articles for the second edition 
of ‘Insight’, the magazine in Braille.

I read your E-mail on accessindia. I am interested in contributing an article 
for the second edition of the magazine.

I would be grateful if you could please give me some information so that I 
could contribute.

1.Is there some specific topic on which the article has to be submitted?
2.What can be the length of the article?
3.By when does the article have to be submitted?

I really want to send you articles for publication in the ‘Insight’
magazine, and would be grateful if you provide me with this information.

Looking forward to hearing from you in earnest

Thanks and regards

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[AI] Moderator: RE: reading out Pratiyogita Darpan magazine

[Kotian, H P]

Pl write to the person directly and clutter the list with such requests.
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 3:38 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] reading out Pratiyogita Darpan magazine

I too want the same sir!
please share on the list or on my mail ID that is, shweta.mishra...@gmail.com 
thanks in advance!

On 7/20/16, ketan modi  wrote:
> Yes sir,
> even I want to read it.
> Please share the scan copy on the list so everyone can have access of
> the same.
> On 7/19/16, Arjun Malhotra  wrote:
>> I guess this particular mag have come up with an app as well. I have
>> not tried though.
>>
>> On 7/19/16, pooja  wrote:
>>> Yes sir! Me to.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of sonu Golkar
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:57 AM
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] reading out Pratiyogita Darpan magazine
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Nirmal Verma
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 12:23 PM
>>> To: accessindia
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] reading out Pratiyogita Darpan magazine
>>>
>>> The current scenario requires manual intervention and the magazine
>>> needs to be scanned manually. Although the work is not very tedious
>>> but organisations have not taken it up seriously. The publisher also
>>> is not supporting the cause and has refused to share the soft copy.
>>> A scanned copy of the english version of the magazine  may be
>>> possible but hindi still needs a lot of work.
>>> Would you like to have just the scanned copy ofthe magazine?
>>>
>>> Nirmal
>>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2016 11:25 AM, "karan singhania"
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 hi all,
 as the subject line says, I want  to read out monthly issues of
 Pratiyogita Darpan magazine.
 however, my googling couldn't help me to download the magazine nor
 to read it online.
 please suggest on how to go about this.

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[AI] Moderator: off-topicRE: police brutality: shooting at eyes in Kashmir

[Kotian, H P]

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This thread is closed for traffic with immediate effect.
Harish Kotian


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surinder raina
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] police brutality: shooting at eyes in Kashmir

thank NIRANJAN for shareing fact friends I would like to share with you an 
incident one of police person was put along with bullet proof vehicle into 
JEHLEM river at SANGUM due to which the brave police person lost his life but 
did not open fire on the mob

On 7/18/16, Niranjanraj Urs  wrote:
> On 7/16/16, muruganandan.k  wrote:
>> an editorial from 15th July-2016 The Hindu reveals the shocking fact
>> that more than half of the civilians injured in Kashmir recently have
>> lost their eye sight since bullets were shot at their eyes. Read on:
>>
>> Learning to control crowds
>> With the death toll rising to at least 38 in the clashes in the
>> Kashmir Valley, the brutal crowd-control tactics of the police have
>> come under the spotlight. They call into question the changes in
>> standard operating procedure that were made after the violent
>> protests of 2010, when scores of people died, mostly to bullet
>> injuries. A decision had then been taken to introduce “non-lethal”
>> pellets. But ammunition can only be as “non-lethal” as the tactics
>> employed. And it is evident that the security forces have failed to
>> exercise enough restraint, given the nature of injuries sustained by
>> many young men and women. A high number of the injured have suffered
>> pellet injuries in the eyes. For instance, in one Srinagar hospital
>> alone, the Shri Maharaja Hari Singh Hospital, of the 87 civilians who
>> were brought in with injuries, about 40 had sustained pellet injuries to 
>> their eyes.
>> Of these, doctors concluded that 19 persons, or almost half of those
>> with eye injuries, may never recover their eyesight. Do the
>> mathematics, and a terrifying picture presents itself. The Centre has
>> obviously, and correctly, read the situation, and rushed a team of
>> eye specialists to the Valley. But the tragically excessive loss of
>> life, limb and sight this month must force a serious rethink on how
>> policemen are equipped and trained to bring calm to the streets.
>> Pellets have been fired from 12-bore guns for riot control. These are
>> not long-distance weapons. Police around the world have been trained
>> to aim for below the knee. The idea is that the pain caused by the
>> pellets, usually made of metal and sometimes encased in rubber, acts
>> as a deterrent without maiming or causing serious life-inhibiting
>> injuries. Theoretically, it sounds viable. The reality that’s
>> obtained in Kashmir this month tells another story. It speaks to a
>> lack of both training and leadership. It is nobody’s case that it is
>> an easy job to control a violent crowd, but it is the duty of the
>> police to do so by causing as little injury as possible. They must
>> ensure that the force they use is never disproportionately excessive to the 
>> cause of action.
>> In the heat of the moment, there was a clear lack of restraint,
>> evident in the numbers injured by the spray of pellets. Even as the
>> best medical care is now sought to be provided, a more holistic
>> healing must be expeditiously administered. It has to be a political
>> exercise. This week of violence must also end with the assurance that
>> the security forces have learnt important lessons — the most
>> important among them being the adoption of more humane measures for
>> crowd control
>>
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> The loss of eye sight is really painful and heart rending. However,
> calling it as Police brutality is faroff the mark. Please understand
> under what difficult and trying circumstances the police and other
> security personnel perform in Kashmir where they have to face a
> barrage of stone pelting by mobs from all directions.  For having a
> right picture compare what police forces d

Re: [AI] Fw: Saving Card Details without the Consent of Buyers

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Vikas
Excellent drafted mail. You can also raise tempo by putting it in change.org

Lot of folks have concerns in this issue and it should attract interest in good 
numbers.

AccessIndia members would of course support it wholeheartedly.

Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 11:47 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] Fw: Saving Card Details without the Consent of Buyers


- Original Message -
From: Vikas Kapoor
To: cgmdps...@rbi.org.in
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 11:28 AM
Subject: Saving Card Details without the Consent of Buyers


Sir/Ma'am,
My name is Vikas kapoor and I'm writing this to you from Delhi to bring to your 
attention about a commonly and widely followed practice over many Indian and 
foreign websites of various merchants, which amounts to breach the security and 
privacy of the credit/debit cards of thousands of customers.
While performing a transaction over various websites, such as, snapdeal.com, 
flipkart.com, amazon.in, ebay.in, freecharge.com, (hundreds of them may be 
sighted), they store the card details without giving the customers an option 
whether they are willing their card details to be available on third party 
sites. Although many of them would claim that they don't store the CVV code 
while saving the card details, I personally think even storing the 16 digit 
number is a clear case of violation of the privacy of customers.

Further, one can argue, as most of the websites often do, in the present age, 
when an extra security layer is provided in the form of OTP, no security risk 
is involved while storing the card details, however, I'd like to inform you 
that this option of generating OTP is applicable only on the websites that 
operate in India, and, on all other foreign sites, one can complete the 
transaction without having to generate any OTP.

So my argument is: while you may not have any control over the foreign 
websites, the card data stored on the Indian websites may be leaked to other 
foreign sites, in which case, we would render ourselves completely helpless.

Furthermore, when we all customers are advised by the respective banks to keep 
our card details confidential, how can various websites openly store your card 
details when you perform any transaction? Needless to mention that without 
exercising the option to save the card details with the merchants' sites, the 
transactions will not be completed.
I'd therefore, strongly urge you to kindly look into this issue on urgent basis 
as these instances quite often go unnoticed, and come up with a strong and 
general circular asking the websites and other merchants not to store any 
portion of the cards entered on their sites.
Thanking you.
Vikas Kapoor,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
Skype Id: dl_vikas

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Re: [AI] RBI channel to address grevances regarding websites saving the card details

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Vikas
As these information are picked up by the payment gateway entities, they should 
come under the purview of Department of payment and settlement system of RBI.
You can write in your grievances with a full facts of the case with appropriate 
examples to:
cgmdps...@rbi.org.in


Warmly
Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:26 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] RBI channel to address grevances regarding websites saving the 
card details

Friends,
While transacting over different websites through credit or debit cards, over 
90% of the website would now store the card details without giving the 
customers an option whether they are really willing their card details to be 
available on third party sites or not. I'd request people, especially working 
with RBI to suggest an appropriate forum to launch a complaint against those 
sites, or, to make a request to come up with a general circular asking the 
websites not to store the card details. Please don't suggest me that one can 
always remove the card details at a later stage, I know it very well but in 
most of the cases, option to remove or delete the saved cards is not easily 
located and accessible. in any case I find it absolutely illegal that you save 
the card details without the consent of the buyers.

Vikas Kapoor,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
Skype Id: dl_vikas

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[AI] Moderator: RE: to copy link by enroied phones

[Kotian, H P]

Nidhi Kotarhi
Pl put mobile queries on the mobile.ai list only.
Harish Kotian





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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
nidhi kothari
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:55 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] to copy link by enroied phones

as the subject, how to copy link in enroid phone?
reply
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Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Srini

That functionality happens anyway in MS Outlook.

The predictability is better in later version when I compare Ofice 2007 to 
Office 2013

Let us hear from the horse's mouth.

The application behaves better in a period of time. It does some machine 
learning.

NVDA tends to perform better than Jaws in Outlook. For instance, when I open 
the sent folder I only get the size of the mail in Jaws it does not announce 
the subject line when you move across the mails. This does not happen with me 
in other folders. However, with NVDA it is consistent.

In short if Jaws does not respond as expected in Outlook, switch to NVDA.

Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 2:49 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!

Harish,
That's not his problem. He would want address to get added automatically when 
he sends out an email. Remember we used to have that option in Outlook express 
and even in Gmail, when you send an email, sender's address gets added to your 
address book.

Thanks,
Srinivasu

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica Hon. Joint Secretary, The National 
Association for the Blind, Karnataka Branch

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Kotian, H P  wrote:

> Hi George
> I suppose you want to create a new contacts in MS Outlook To DO this:
> Press ctrl+Y
> It will take you to the list of folders in Outlook. Move your cursor
> up/dn, until you  will find contacts up there. Press enter on it.
> Next press Ctrl+N
> You will get a whole bunch of fields to fill in
>
> If you want to ad a contact from an existing mail,open the mail and
> move to the email address, right click or use the option key, and you
> will get the add to contact option.
> HTH
> Harish Kotian
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of George Abraham
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 7:12 AM
> To: rajpal...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing
> accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!
>
> No! The question is how to save the contacts in the address book of MS
> Outlook!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of rajpal
> Sent: 08 July 2016 06:35
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!
>
> Hello,
>
> If you want to use the address book of MS outlook for your mails,then
> do the
> following:--
>
> 1. If you want to put the address in the TO field then press alt+.
> 2. For CC press alt+C.
> 3. For BCC press alt+b.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Alok Kaushik
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 11:03 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!
>
> Hi George,
> I am facing the same issue. Suggested email addresses are not shown in 'To'
> or 'Cc' fields when I start typing an address. I  have already spent a
> reasonable time on various approaches suggested on the internet.
> However, none of them really resolved the issue. If you are able to
> find a solution, please post it on the list.
>
> Thanks.
> Alok
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of George Abraham
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 8:31 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!
>
> My query is not to do with accessibility. I need to get the "contacts"
> start working in MS Outlook!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
> Sent: 07 July 2016 16:33
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!
>
> If an expert didn't call you already, you may want to call Microsoft's
> Disability Answer Desk on 000 800 442 0152 and details are at
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-in/answerdesk/acces

Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!

[Kotian, H P]

Hi George
I suppose you want to create a new contacts in MS Outlook
To DO this:
Press ctrl+Y
It will take you to the list of folders in Outlook. Move your cursor up/dn, 
until you  will find contacts up there. Press enter on it.
Next press Ctrl+N
You will get a whole bunch of fields to fill in

If you want to ad a contact from an existing mail,open the mail and move to the 
email address, right click or use the option key, and you will get the add to 
contact option.
HTH
Harish Kotian



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 7:12 AM
To: rajpal...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issues concerning the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!

No! The question is how to save the contacts in the address book of MS Outlook!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
rajpal
Sent: 08 July 2016 06:35
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!

Hello,

If you want to use the address book of MS outlook for your mails,then do the
following:--

1. If you want to put the address in the TO field then press alt+.
2. For CC press alt+C.
3. For BCC press alt+b.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Alok Kaushik
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 11:03 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!

Hi George,
I am facing the same issue. Suggested email addresses are not shown in 'To'
or 'Cc' fields when I start typing an address. I  have already spent a 
reasonable time on various approaches suggested on the internet. However, none 
of them really resolved the issue. If you are able to  find a solution, please 
post it on the list.

Thanks.
Alok


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 8:31 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!

My query is not to do with accessibility. I need to get the "contacts"
start working in MS Outlook!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: 07 July 2016 16:33
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] MS Outlook experts!

If an expert didn't call you already, you may want to call Microsoft's 
Disability Answer Desk on 000 800 442 0152 and details are at 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-in/answerdesk/accessibility

Best,
Vasu

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica Hon. Joint Secretary, The National 
Association for the Blind, Karnataka Branch

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:17 PM, George Abraham  wrote:

> Need to speak to an MS Outlook expert urgently. Can get to me on 011
> 26472581 or 9810934040 or mail me with number on geo...@eyeway.org
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation!
>
> CEO
> Score Foundation
> 17/107, LGF,
> Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
> New Delhi 110024
> Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
> Mob: 91 9810934040
> Email: geo...@eyeway.org
> Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
> Skype: georgeabraham13
>
>
> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
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[AI] Error in opening Excel files

[Kotian, H P]

All
I was getting some weird error regarding lack of space whenever I opened an 
attachment which had Excel file.
I came across this fix. Sharing it if someone else is haunted with similar woe.
Quoting:

- Office now has some kind of "protected-mode" feature, which prevents office 
apps from doing certain things under certain conditions.
- One of them is to stop excel from opening attachments coming from outlook :-(

Just go in Excel options, trust center, settings, and untick all the options 
about "protected view".

Save and voila, suddenly excel can open all your files and has absolutely no 
problems with your gigs of free memory.

Thanks to the brilliant minds who conceived such an awkward feature with 
awkward error messages and ultra-deep menu options to clear - and of course no 
simple help.

Regards
Harish Kotian




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Re: [AI] How to use Skype tocall and record interview?

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
In Skype there is an addon called skype talk, with which you can record the 
conversation.
As a protocol, it would be necessary to let the interviewees know the call is 
being recorded.
I have not used skype credits, I believe the process is accessible.

Regarding transcript, I remember, you can get a google phone number which helps 
make a transcript of the call. I am unsure, if it is available at US only.

I think, there are some add in's for Skype with Wineyes of GWmicro. Do check it 
as well.

These are some pointer to take it ahead.
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ekinath Khedekar
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 4:14 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] How to use Skype tocall and record interview?

Hello AccessIndians,

I would be interviewing number of people using Skype to call and record their 
conversation on my PC. How can I save these conversations and how can I buy 
Skye credits to call these interviewees?

Perhaps, answers to above questions are there on Google, but I wanted to know 
if this is also the best way to interview people over their landlines/mobile 
phones or you are aware of any other better alternative; like that of any Apple 
iPhone app which records and makes transcription easier.

Please render your guidance.

Thanks and regards
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Re: [AI] Your feedback is solicited - accessible material

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
When we are talking of reaching masses, the most accessible format is text 
followed by Rich text format (RTF). This would be readable with a larger pool 
of devices.
 Daisy too would be a very good option which opens the possibility of easy 
Braille printing.
Although, you have not mentioned language, considering the nature of the 
initiative, Hindi in Unicode should definitely be considered.

Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:19 PM
To: vishakha.m...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility 
and issues concerning the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Your feedback is solicited - accessible material

Accessible PDFs would be great. I think DAISY and Braille content would also be 
useful given the diverse nature of users.

Regards,

George


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Sent: 30 June 2016 12:00
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Subject: [AI] Your feedback is solicited - accessible material

Dear all,

I would like to have your views with regard to medium of accessible material 
that can be distributed amongst visually challenged investors when SEBI 
conducts awareness programmes for them.

Please try to reply to the following queries:

1. Whether material available on SEBI Investor Awareness website in PDF format 
would be sufficient?
2. Whether MP3 format would be preferrable?
3. Whether separate CDs should be created?
4. Whether there would be takers for material in braile ?

Your valuable feedback is highly appreciated. You could also write to me 
directly on

vishakha.m...@gmail.com

regards,

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[AI] Moderator: RE: query on touch screan Smart Phone

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
If need be, pl continue this discussion on the mobile.ai list. Subscribtion 
info for this list is in the footer of every AI mails.

Regards
Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Krishna Bodawala
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 6:07 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] query on touch screan Smart Phone

Thank You Sir But I Havent Zeroed In On A Any Particullar Phone

On 6/27/16, Mahesh Narasimhan  wrote:
> Dear Krishna,
>
> In I phone there is "voice over".
>
> Earlier I was using Nokia C5 and in May 2015 I purchased I phone 5. It
> just took me 3 days to comprehend its functions and operations. The
> voice over guides the user a lot. There are some simple finger
> gestures through which one will be able to use I phone with great
> ease.
>
> I did not use android hence cannot tell about it.
>
> If you are thinking of purchasing an I phone, you can note my contact
> # which is mentioned in the signature of this mail and I would be more
> than happy if I am able to help you in this regard.
>
> --
> "Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye & hand! If the
> hand is hurt, the eye will cry! & when the eye cries, the hand will
> wipe the tears"
>
> With best regards,
> Mahesh Narasimhan
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> E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
> Skype: maheshdel88
>
>
>
>
> On 6/27/16, Krishna Bodawala  wrote:
>> Dear Sir ,
>> My Biggest Concern Is Not The Software But How To Oprate It ? How To
>> Make A Right Touch ?Because My Family Is Not Able To Help Much ABout
>> it As They Doesnt Really No How Its Works And Talk Back Is The App
>> Used In Android Na ? And What about I Phone ?
>>
>> On 6/27/16, Robert Ch Sangma  wrote:
>>> You don't need any additional software. Android and IOS has inbuilt
>>> screen reading software. You just need to activate it. According to
>>> me any Samsung handset with 4.4.4 android version or above is quite good.
>>> I'm using Samsung Core Prime which I bought for 8000 one year back.
>>> Now it should not cost more than 6500.
>>>
>>> Of course Iphone is best in term of accessibility. But its bit
>>> expensive.
>>> Just explore.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail";
>>> target="_blank">>> src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/2016/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange_184x116-v1.png";
>>> width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" />
>>> Virus-free. >> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail";
>>> target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >> height="1">
>>>
>>> On 26/06/2016, Krishna Bodawala  wrote:
 On 6/25/16, Krishna Bodawala  wrote:
>  Dear List Members,
> I am Looking For Any Person Living In gujarat Near Surat .
>  As I Am Looking to Buy A New Touch screan Smart Phone .
>  And I Am Completely New Regarding This Subject Matter So Some One
> Can Please Guide  me In Personal About  How To Oprate The Phone
> And Which Software I required to Make It  accesseble Waiting For
> Your Reply krishna Bodawala
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Re: [AI] Unable to read E-version of Employment News

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
I think, we can work in the India Today model where their concerns are 
addressed and accessibility is also taken care.

I understand, another popular international English magazine is going to be 
available to us and I would let the concernd folks do the honors of announcing 
it.

Alternatively, it can also be sent as a daisy zipped file which is also 
watermarked to end blind users by email.
Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:44 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Unable to read E-version of Employment News

Is it worthwhile to make it the test case Amar?
K
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Amar Jain
Sent: 27 June 2016 14:04
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Unable to read E-version of Employment News

Hi All,

I just now bought a subscription of Employment News E-version. I cannot read 
the paper and I am guessing it to be an accessibility issue.

Greatful if anyone can confirm or provide a workaround.

Regards,
---
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com


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Re: [AI] NVDA is government authorised software?

[Kotian, H P]

Hi

To answer specifically, I don't think, it is listed in the list of approved 
software. However, it is not listed in the restricted software either. It is 
not expected to be in the list of approved software. I haven't seen the list, 
therefore, I can't comment on it. However, the list would cover mainstream 
softwares like wordprocessors etc.

Nvda is not a Mainstream product. It is a specialized software which enables a 
visually disabled person to use the main stream computer.
It is an open source software which is also a freeware. It is used by blind 
persons across the globe both in their professional and in their individual 
capacity.

In short, there is no problem in using it in your work environment. No security 
concerns would happen by using it.

Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Yogesh J
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:06 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] NVDA is government authorised software?

hello to all.
does our government officially authorized NVDA?
can I  install it in my office?
my office system admin want a order copy of our NVDA officially authorised 
software like that.
can I get help regarding this issue in this list?


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[AI] Moderator:RE: request for the download link of internet download manager.

[Kotian, H P]

All
Please don't provide any support on software which are not freeware / shareware.

Please take care about it.
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aravind R
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:12 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] request for the download link of internet download manager.

https://www.internetdownloadmanager.com/support/about_us.html

On 6/16/16, aryan  wrote:
> it is not there in blindhelp.tk
>
> On 16-06-2016 06:55, Aravind R wrote:
>> download from blindhelp.tk
>>
>> On 6/15/16, aryan  wrote:
>>> hi i need internet download manager please send the download link of
>>> it if u have.
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> There
>>> will always be challenges, obstacles and less than perfect
>>> conditions. So what. Get started now. With each step you take, you
>>> will grow stronger and stronger, more and more skilled, more and
>>> more self-confident and more and more successful.”
>>> aryan joshi.
>>> email   aryanj1...@gmail.com
>>> skype i.d   bhalchandra.joshi8
>>> mobile number   9769728784
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