Re: [AI] Experiences of Acer and lenova laptop users

2011-10-06 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I have been using an acer aspire 4930 for the last 2 and a half years.
Touch wood, performance so far, has been pretty good. The ram is well
used, and the system, even with Windows Vista, works fast enough. The
sound system isn't too bad either, ones you optimize all the settings.
If you have a good system configuration, then I think acer shouldn't
be a bad bet.
It seems the one possible common issue has to do with the keybord. I
had to change my keypad ones, and a couple of my friends who use acer,
have found the keypad a touch troubling, although they otherwise are
happy with the performance of the system. Since I had the keypad
trouble, I've shifted to the use of an external roling keybord.
Hopes this is of some help.
best,

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 Dear friends,

 How is the performance of Acer and lenova laptops?  There is a
 significant difference in prices of these from those of Del and HP.
 So, wanted to check their performance.



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Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

2011-09-26 Thread Mahesh Panicker
...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 First of all, I'm glad to see this thread.
 I think that this matters more than all other screen readers,
 assistive devices and all such other things.

 Even I fail to comprehend how totally blind people are able to move
 on their own.
 I have always taken the help of sighted guides for moving around.
  Many people also feel that those who require sighted assistance are
 more dependent on others than those who use white canes are.

 I personally feel that it's better to take the help of a sighted
 guide
 instead of fumbling around just to prove that you are not dependent
 on
 others.
  Of course, there are people who are truly independent and do not
 require much sighted assistance, but, like I said earlier, I really
 don't know how they actually manage it.

 I feel that people, in general, have a very negative attitude towards
 those who use white canes.
 I'm not saying that they hate blind people, but there is a drastic
 change in their behavior.
 They start interfering unnecessarily in order to assist you, or they
 start asking ridiculous questions.
 All this also happens if you move around with a sighted guide, but I
 believe that it happens more if you use a white cane.
 Of course, this method also has its flaws, but what other option do
 we
 have?

 On 23/09/2011, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 The over emphasis placed on independent living is the result of the
 disability rights movement, in its social model version, simply
 accepting the liberal-modern notion of the individual as rational,
 free and independent.
 We need to  may be think further in lines of human interdependence
 rather than any utopian notion of independent living, its a myth,
 not
 only for the disabled, but also for the non-disabled.
 When faced with a disadvantageous and dangerous environment, I would
 rather prefer an escort, than getting injured.
 Best,

 On 9/23/11, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote:
 i entirely agree with what Himanshu sir has said. i work in a rural
 area in pashchimbanga and day in and day out have to encounter
 difficulties like coliding with someone or with some object which
 really hurt due particularly to the irresponsibility of some
 persons
 without visual impairment. the rail station where i usually board
 my
 train from becomes almost inaccessible in the evenings because of
 the
 abundance of small shops where things of use are sold. there were
 times when i nearly fell to the railway tracks.

 moreover many people don't know how to use a pavement. pavements in
 larger cities here are dangerous to say the least for even a
 sighted
 person; for a visually challanged person it is almost a nightmare.
 in
 rural roads, there are no pavement or anything. so escort becomes a
 necessity. but undoubtedly, moving alone is the most satisfying
 thing
 irrespective of fumbling or no fumbling. but there is no heroism in
 falling down and injuring oneself.

 we can enough philosophise regarding independence. but under the
 present circumstance it is an illusive thing for us. hope one day
 will
 come when this topic itself will become redundant.

 with thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee.
 cell: 09433305139

 On 9/23/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 if a word hold is objectionable, the word grip can be replace
 withit.

 - Original Message -
 From: Raj Debbarma rdbbarma...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 8:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?


 hi sir,
 i agree with all your point.
 i don't find anything wrong to use cane specially in new
 surrounding
 and also belief nothing wrong  to ask direction to  find  our
 way.
 in
 terms of holding hand, what i think  there might be cultural
 differences reguarding this.  but if you are caring cane  its
 automatically represent your blindness twards the society  that
 point
 of time if  anyone hold your hand, i don't think  anybody should
 have
 any sort of problem.
 its raj, have a nice day ahead  to all of you. cheers
 thank you..

 On 9/22/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hi all,

 This is an interesting subject and here are my views:

 First, It does not matter whether we fumble around to find our
 ways
 or
 not. What matters is our ability to reach our destination on
 time
 without hurting our-self. In relation to that, who cares about
 others
 thinking when we fumble around to find our ways? Ones we adopt
 that
 mentality, then words like social dignity will make very little
 sense.
 Second, I would like to draw the attention to the point that
 Jean
 made. There is a significant cultural difference in terms of
 holding
 someone else's hand. I am sure that visually challenged people
 in
 India will agree with the fact that we don't mind holding hands
 not
 only in terms of sighted assistance, but also among friends who
 may
 be
 visually challenged. but among the blind

Re: [AI] Firefox 6

2011-09-25 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I am using Jaws 12 and Firefox 5. The webvisum version I have is 0.9.
Does it work with firefox 6? How do I update webvisum otherwise?
Thanks,

On 9/25/11, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have firefox 5.  How do I upgrade it?  How do I use webvisum?  Do I need
 to download it?  Please help.


 - Original Message -
 From: inamuddin inamuddi...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Firefox 6


 yes it is accessible and webvisum is working too, if you upgrade webvisum.

 With regards from Inamuddin/charlsdarwin1
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 To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 5:48 AM
 Subject: [AI] Firefox 6


 Dear Friends,

 Is firefox 6 accessible with JAWS 11?  Is webvism working?  Where do I
 get it from?  Thank you.
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Re: [AI] Firefox 6

2011-09-25 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Firefox 6 does work fine with Jaws 12, and Webvisum 0.9 also works
with it. There seem to be some issues with grafical buttons, anissue
Ketan mentioned on another post, I too am facing similar problems. But
that may have got to do with some settings as well.
best,

On 9/25/11, Sinoj sinoj...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, Firefox 6 is accessible with JAWS 11.0.1476 and later and NVDA.  If you
 want to use Firefox older version, Use 3.6.22  Pls don't use older versions
 like 3.5 due to security reason.
 - Original Message -
 From: shilpi singh msdol...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 8:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Firefox 6


 dear friend firefax6 is not accessible with any screen reader if you
 want to use firefax
 go for 3.5 you can download from webvism.com or mail me at msdolly6 i
 will give you direct link to download. thanks and regards.

 On 9/25/11, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 Is firefox 6 accessible with JAWS 11?  Is webvism working?  Where do I get
 it from?  Thank you.
 Ketan Kothari
 Phone: [r] 24223281,
 Cell: 9987550614
 MSN ID: muktake...@hotmail.com
 Skype ID: Ketan
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Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

2011-09-23 Thread Mahesh Panicker
The over emphasis placed on independent living is the result of the
disability rights movement, in its social model version, simply
accepting the liberal-modern notion of the individual as rational,
free and independent.
We need to  may be think further in lines of human interdependence
rather than any utopian notion of independent living, its a myth, not
only for the disabled, but also for the non-disabled.
When faced with a disadvantageous and dangerous environment, I would
rather prefer an escort, than getting injured.
Best,

On 9/23/11, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote:
 i entirely agree with what Himanshu sir has said. i work in a rural
 area in pashchimbanga and day in and day out have to encounter
 difficulties like coliding with someone or with some object which
 really hurt due particularly to the irresponsibility of some persons
 without visual impairment. the rail station where i usually board my
 train from becomes almost inaccessible in the evenings because of the
 abundance of small shops where things of use are sold. there were
 times when i nearly fell to the railway tracks.

 moreover many people don't know how to use a pavement. pavements in
 larger cities here are dangerous to say the least for even a sighted
 person; for a visually challanged person it is almost a nightmare. in
 rural roads, there are no pavement or anything. so escort becomes a
 necessity. but undoubtedly, moving alone is the most satisfying thing
 irrespective of fumbling or no fumbling. but there is no heroism in
 falling down and injuring oneself.

 we can enough philosophise regarding independence. but under the
 present circumstance it is an illusive thing for us. hope one day will
 come when this topic itself will become redundant.

 with thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee.
 cell: 09433305139

 On 9/23/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 if a word hold is objectionable, the word grip can be replace withit.

 - Original Message -
 From: Raj Debbarma rdbbarma...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 8:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?


 hi sir,
 i agree with all your point.
 i don't find anything wrong to use cane specially in new surrounding
 and also belief nothing wrong  to ask direction to  find  our way.  in
 terms of holding hand, what i think  there might be cultural
 differences reguarding this.  but if you are caring cane  its
 automatically represent your blindness twards the society  that point
 of time if  anyone hold your hand, i don't think  anybody should have
 any sort of problem.
 its raj, have a nice day ahead  to all of you. cheers
 thank you..

 On 9/22/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 This is an interesting subject and here are my views:

 First, It does not matter whether we fumble around to find our ways or
 not. What matters is our ability to reach our destination on time
 without hurting our-self. In relation to that, who cares about others
 thinking when we fumble around to find our ways? Ones we adopt that
 mentality, then words like social dignity will make very little sense.
 Second, I would like to draw the attention to the point that Jean
 made. There is a significant cultural difference in terms of holding
 someone else's hand. I am sure that visually challenged people in
 India will agree with the fact that we don't mind holding hands not
 only in terms of sighted assistance, but also among friends who may be
 visually challenged. but among the blind people here in the US there
 is a slight difference in terms of holding hands as if holding others
 hands is undesirable or something like that. So one has to be aware of
 such cultural differences in this regard. My final point is to do with
 mobility during conference. As Jean pointed out, we should certainly
 make use of the cane since it will be a new surrounding, but at the
 same time there is nothing wrong in asking for directions. Just a
 passing comment about my attitude towards others assistance: Either
 guide me by holding my hands or leave me alone. I am intelegent enough
 to find my ways around.

 Vetri.

 On 22/09/2011, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote:
 actually, escort becomes necessity at some times as far as i'm
 concerned. but, i agree, that we must look for self-reliance. but what
 i would like to draw every body's attention is that the point that Mr
 Rajesh sir made regarding escort in the other thread is absolutely
 valid. it is insulting to say the least. there should be discretion of
 making my own choices for me.

 On 9/22/11, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
 Dear Rajesh

 i only agree with your thurd point,

 to think that escort is there, and we don't need mobility is very much
 wrong.
 sighted people can also put your life in to denjare, we must take
 responsibility
 for our life, and not totaly put responsibility  on the shoulders of
 

Re: [AI] menus in m s word 2007

2011-09-19 Thread Mahesh Panicker
The best way to deal with is to use Jaws 12. Previous versions of Jaws
do not quite support MS Office 2007 and later. In Jaws 12, there is
the Virtual ribbon. Ones you enable the same, you should be able to
access the options of each menu by pressing the down arrow key.
If you don't hve Jaws 12, then its better to revert to Office 2003, as
working with office 07 and earlier versions of Jaws is somewhat
dificult unless you don't know most of the keybord commands.
best,

On 9/19/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 will jaws support clasic menus in office 2007 and 10? i had experienced that
 it shows clasic menu but jaws don't support it.


 thanks.

 - Original Message -
 From: Akhil malani.akhil...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] menus in m s word 2007


 Hello to all,

 I don't know whether this tool has been discussed in this conversation.

 Well there is a freeware tool to use all the menus and the toolbars in
 office 2007 and in office 2010.

 please find the complete information about that tool below...

 http://www.addintools.com/office2010/menutoolbar/index.html

 Thanks and Regards
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 Test Engineer
 And
 Accessibility Lead

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 - Original Message -
 From: Renuka Warriar eren...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] menus in m s word 2007


 Hi,
 My real problem is that, in word 2003, the menus could be focused
 either by their commands such as alt+i for insert menu or alt+a for
 table menu etc., or by pressing the rlight or left arrow after
 focusing to the file menu.  But now, neither the menus could be
 focused through their commands nor they could be focused by pressing
 the right arrow after focusing the file menu.
 Hope now my doubt is clear.
 Renuka.

 On 9/19/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 no problem, you have to remember the key sequence of office 2003 and
 apply
 it on word 2007. however jaws will not support accurately while typing
 the
 key sequence. e.g. you would like to go to autocorrect options, just
 type
 alt+t then a to open autocorrect dialog. for normal layout view you can
 type
 alt+v followed by d, jaws will say draft layout. you can also access all
 menus with the key sequence of word 2003. like to insert a table you can
 type alt+a-i-t, you will land on table dialog box.
 remember all the key sequence of word 2003 and enjoy word 2007.

 hope this will help.

 bhawani.

 - Original Message -
 From: Renuka Warriar eren...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 5:45 PM
 Subject: [AI] menus in m s word 2007


 Hi friends,
 Hetherto, I was using m s word 2003.  Now, when I tried to use word
 2007,
 I am encountering a problem.  i.e,  Only file menu could be accessed.
 Others could not be focused.  Could anyone suggest any solution?
 With regards,

 Renuka E.,
 Section Officer,
 ICT Center for the Visually Challenged,
 CHMKLibrary,
 University of Calicut,
 Kerala.
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Re: [AI] A question on WIFI

2011-09-18 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Thanks for the information.
What model of the same should I go for? An online search has not given
me many new ideas.
best,

On 9/17/11, Shreedhar TS. tss@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi you can use wifi dangle. The price range would be 800 to 1500-2000.

 On 9/17/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello listers. .
 I am  facing a bit of trouble on a WIFI related issue.
 The college where I work has recently set up a WIFI network. However,
 my HCL netbook doesn't have in built WIFI facility. Is there some
 external device that I can use to access the wifi network?
 I was told that there is an external WIFI connector that I can use. If
 so, what is the price range of the same?
 thanks in advance,

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[AI] A question on WIFI

2011-09-17 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Hello listers. .
I am  facing a bit of trouble on a WIFI related issue.
The college where I work has recently set up a WIFI network. However,
my HCL netbook doesn't have in built WIFI facility. Is there some
external device that I can use to access the wifi network?
I was told that there is an external WIFI connector that I can use. If
so, what is the price range of the same?
thanks in advance,

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[AI] has anyone been to google plus?

2011-07-24 Thread Mahesh Panicker
So Google Plus is Google's latest inovation. google' products mostly
has had a history of innaccessibility as far as the visually
challenged are concerned. So I haven't yet visited the space. Has
anyone been to google plus? how is it in tirms of accessibilit? does
it have a mobile version like facebook has?
best,

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Re: [AI] regarding Dehli J.N.U. admition

2011-07-22 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Its not about financial benefits, but the fact is that many people are
not aware of such facilities, and think the hole process is expensive.
JNU's educational quality is widely reputed, but other aspects are not
that well known.

On 7/22/11, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 One shouldn't be lured with by describing amount of scholarship. We
 should concentrate upon the level of the education what this
 university offers, that should be only the parameter to join a
 institute like JNU, therefore members should advise someone in terms
 of quality of education, not on the accruing financial benifits.

 On 7/21/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 In addition, you will also be able to avail the JNU merit scholarship.
 Together with your reader allowance, it should take care of your
 personal expenses to a considerable extent.

 Best,

 Vetri.

 On 20/07/2011, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Welcome to JNU.
 The Fee shouldn't be a matter of concern, its around just 100 per
 semester. Also, the hostel will be made available at the time of
 adimission itself, and the hostel fee pir semester is less than 100.
 You have to pay the mess bil though, and it is around 1500 pir month.
 As a visually challenged, you have a special unit in the genraly
 library, provided with more than 20 computers, scanners, braille
 printers and so on. The University also provides a reader allowance of
 around 1500 for MA students.
 There is a fforum organized by the visually challenged students of the
 campus, the JNU Visually Challenged Forum.
 Hope you will have a great time at JNU.


 On 7/16/11, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Congrats and welcome in this prestigious ever learning institution.
 You will have to pay pay 40 RS as school fee and you will get hostel
 at the day of admission, however you have to pay 2,000 RS for hostel
 accomodation once in a semester.
 Hostel facility is very good but you will have to be conversant to rocky
 ways.
 Regards

 On 7/16/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think that the fee structure should be your matter of concern
 since JNU has the cheepest fee structure in India. As for as hostels
 are concerned, you will be prioritized. Fill out the form that you
 could have received via mail or you can get one from the dean of
 students.

 Vetri.

 On 14/07/2011, ashoktejasvi ashok.k1...@rediffmail.com wrote:
 Hi friends. This is ashok K from Bangalore. Recently, I have been
 selected
 for masters program in history. if anybody studying or studied their
 in
 J.N.U. please send  available information for me. I need to know about
 the
 fee structure, hostel fecility,  consessions for   genral catagury
 V.I.'s
 and so on.



 thanking you

 Ashok K

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Re: [AI] regarding Dehli J.N.U. admition

2011-07-20 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Welcome to JNU.
The Fee shouldn't be a matter of concern, its around just 100 per
semester. Also, the hostel will be made available at the time of
adimission itself, and the hostel fee pir semester is less than 100.
You have to pay the mess bil though, and it is around 1500 pir month.
As a visually challenged, you have a special unit in the genraly
library, provided with more than 20 computers, scanners, braille
printers and so on. The University also provides a reader allowance of
around 1500 for MA students.
There is a fforum organized by the visually challenged students of the
campus, the JNU Visually Challenged Forum.
Hope you will have a great time at JNU.


On 7/16/11, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Congrats and welcome in this prestigious ever learning institution.
 You will have to pay pay 40 RS as school fee and you will get hostel
 at the day of admission, however you have to pay 2,000 RS for hostel
 accomodation once in a semester.
 Hostel facility is very good but you will have to be conversant to rocky
 ways.
 Regards

 On 7/16/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think that the fee structure should be your matter of concern
 since JNU has the cheepest fee structure in India. As for as hostels
 are concerned, you will be prioritized. Fill out the form that you
 could have received via mail or you can get one from the dean of
 students.

 Vetri.

 On 14/07/2011, ashoktejasvi ashok.k1...@rediffmail.com wrote:
 Hi friends. This is ashok K from Bangalore. Recently, I have been
 selected
 for masters program in history. if anybody studying or studied their in
 J.N.U. please send  available information for me. I need to know about
 the
 fee structure, hostel fecility,  consessions for   genral catagury V.I.'s
 and so on.



 thanking you

 Ashok K

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Re: [AI] parents from Kerala, of a 4 year old visually challenged need some guidance

2011-07-07 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Thanks every one for the valuable information and feedback. I have
provided these info to my friend.
best,

On 7/7/11, Simon Mathews simonmath...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm from Ernakulam. My daughter is studying at Greets Public School.

 Regards

 Simon



 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:21 AM, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:

 Dear Simon,

 Where are you based?

 Regards,

 George

 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Mathews simonmath...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] parents from Kerala, of a 4 year old visually challenged
 need some guidance


 hi,

 My daughter is 8 years and visually challenged. She is attending school
 and
 is class topper.

 Regards

 Simon
 098472 73381

 On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Krishnan moothimo...@gmail.com wrote:

  hai mahesh,
  you can contact with kerala federation of the blind at trivandrum on
  0471
  2304831 they can help you in better schooling as well as  in mobility
  training at our school in palghat.phone.  04662266303.
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  Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:07 AM
  Subject: [AI] parents from Kerala,of a 4 year old visually challenged
 need
  some guidance
 
 
  hello list.
  There is a friend of me who has a visually challenged relative. the
  girl is 4 years old, and the parents are not quite informed about the
  educational opportunities and life chances available to a visually
  challenged in the state. the child haven't developed mobility skills
  that much, as the parents are a bit over caring. would like to know
  whether there are any mobility training available in the state. I have
  passed on whatever information available to me, but I think some more
  informed professional advice is what they need.
  how do one go about it?
  thanks in advance,
 
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[AI] parents from Kerala, of a 4 year old visually challenged need some guidance

2011-07-05 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hello list.
There is a friend of me who has a visually challenged relative. the
girl is 4 years old, and the parents are not quite informed about the
educational opportunities and life chances available to a visually
challenged in the state. the child haven't developed mobility skills
that much, as the parents are a bit over caring. would like to know
whether there are any mobility training available in the state. I have
passed on whatever information available to me, but I think some more
informed professional advice is what they need.
how do one go about it?
thanks in advance,

-- 
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Re: [AI] Concession in Rajdhani / Shatabdi notification issued for certain Physically Handicaps.

2011-05-26 Thread Mahesh Panicker
doesn't then apply in the case of visually challenged?
best,

On 5/26/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 For your information from Press Information Bureau:
 Ministry of Railways26-May, 2011 11:57 IST Ministry of Railways Issues
 Notification for Extending Concession to Orthopaedically
 Handicapped/Paraplegic Persons in Rajdhani and Shatabdi Trains

 The New Facility to be Effective from 1st June, 2011
 Ministry of Railways has issued a notification for extending the
 concession in Rail fares admissible to Orthopaedically/paraplegic
 persons in Rajdhani/Shatadbi trains also. This comes as a follow up to
 the announcement made in Railways Minister’s Budget speech for 2011-12
 on 25th February, 2011.

 Accordingly, Orthopaedically handicapped/paraplegic persons who cannot
 travel without the assistance of escort are eligible for 25 per cent
 concession in 3-AC  AC Chair Car in all inclusive fares of Rajdhani
 and Shatabdi trains. The same concession will also be admissible to
 one escort accompanying the concerned handicapped person.

 There is no change in other terms and conditions.

 The concession will be effective on tickets purchased on or after
 01.06.2011. In case of tickets already issued for travel on  after
 01.06.2011 refund or difference of fares will not be admissible.

 AKS/LK/T R
 (Release ID :72322)



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Re: [AI] Anyone using Google Chrome or Firefox 4?

2011-05-03 Thread Mahesh Panicker
freedom scientific claims Jaws 12 supports IE9. when I used it with
Jaws 11, there were a lot of problems. has anyone tried IE9 with
Jaws12? if so, how has the experience been?
regards.

On 5/3/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 About firefox, the answer is yes, you can use it without big problems
 using Jaws latest built.
 As far as crome is concerned, use NVDA latest built and google crome
 latest built. Google claims that it works with NVDA.
 Regards,
 Amar Jain.

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 Hello list members!

 Feels good to write here after so long. Hope you all are doing good.
 Folks,
 is there anyway we can use Google Chrome or Mozzilla Firefox 4 with Jaws?
 Your help in this regard is appreciated.

 Warm Regards,
 Abdul
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Re: [AI] a question on the SD card slot

2011-04-18 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Thanks Ajay ji. I've bought a card reader and for the time being, that
solves my problem. thanks a lot for the input.
at the same time, I am told acer aspire 4930, the system I use has got
a 5in1 card reader. I just can't locate the thing though.
thanks and regards,

On 4/18/11, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hy sir
 sd port must be a cardreader that some latest laptops have now a days
 if connecting the card is the only issue then you can buy a card
 reader in just rs 50 or more less then that
 just insert your card in that card reader and connect the cardreader
 to the USB pport of your PC
 regards

 On 4/18/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends.
 I did write to the list with regard to a problem with  the micromax
 x200 phone. now I am being told I have to take out the card and
 connect it to the pc through the sd port on the system. what is an sd
 port? I am used to the usb port, but what is this sd port? I have an
 acer aspire 4930. where can I locate the sd port on the system?
 appreciate your help,

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Re: [AI] problem with micromax x200

2011-04-17 Thread Mahesh Panicker
thanks for your response. however, I haven't been able to solve the
problem as yet. can't find the connectivity settings. in the settings
there are phone settings, call settings, network settings, restore
factory, user profiles, reception mode. when I try restore to factory,
it is asking for input password.
now what to do?
thanks,

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 Hy sir
 just go to connectivity settings
 and there you will be able to locate options like mass storage pc
 camera and pc communication
 it depends on your model
 then you will have to choose always ask
 the problam should be solved
 if not solved then restore the phone to the  factory settings
 regards

 On 4/17/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 when I connect it, I can't find the said options. how do I check
 whether its connected in mass storage mode?
 thanks,

 On 4/17/11, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hy sir
 when we connect our phones to pc
 it gives some options like mass storage device and pc camera
 make sure that memory card is properly inserted in the phone and it is
 connected in mass storage mode
 regards

 On 4/17/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 a friend just got a micromax x200. when its connected to the pc
 through the data cable, the phone gets charged, and thus  its not
 possible to access the memory card. no cd was given along with the
 phone. is there any special driver software to be installed? where can
 it be downloaded? is there something that can be done with the
 settings?
 thanks in advance,

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Re: [AI] problem with micromax x200

2011-04-17 Thread Mahesh Panicker
its a cheaper handset. it has  an expandable memory up to 2 gb,
camera, fm, mp3 player ect

On 4/17/11, Sinoj sinoj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
   Same problem with my Videocon v1306  my friend's Karbonn  Onida, also
 These are cheaper models.  I didnt get a proper solution from videocon
 service  from internet.  I don't know about x 200.  What are the features
 of x 200?
 If it is also cheaper model,these models cant connect with PC.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] problem with micromax x200


 thanks for your response. however, I haven't been able to solve the
 problem as yet. can't find the connectivity settings. in the settings
 there are phone settings, call settings, network settings, restore
 factory, user profiles, reception mode. when I try restore to factory,
 it is asking for input password.
 now what to do?
 thanks,

 On 4/17/11, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hy sir
 just go to connectivity settings
 and there you will be able to locate options like mass storage pc
 camera and pc communication
 it depends on your model
 then you will have to choose always ask
 the problam should be solved
 if not solved then restore the phone to the  factory settings
 regards

 On 4/17/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 when I connect it, I can't find the said options. how do I check
 whether its connected in mass storage mode?
 thanks,

 On 4/17/11, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hy sir
 when we connect our phones to pc
 it gives some options like mass storage device and pc camera
 make sure that memory card is properly inserted in the phone and it is
 connected in mass storage mode
 regards

 On 4/17/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 a friend just got a micromax x200. when its connected to the pc
 through the data cable, the phone gets charged, and thus  its not
 possible to access the memory card. no cd was given along with the
 phone. is there any special driver software to be installed? where can
 it be downloaded? is there something that can be done with the
 settings?
 thanks in advance,

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[AI] problem with micromax x200

2011-04-16 Thread Mahesh Panicker
a friend just got a micromax x200. when its connected to the pc
through the data cable, the phone gets charged, and thus  its not
possible to access the memory card. no cd was given along with the
phone. is there any special driver software to be installed? where can
it be downloaded? is there something that can be done with the
settings?
thanks in advance,

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Re: [AI] problem with micromax x200

2011-04-16 Thread Mahesh Panicker
when I connect it, I can't find the said options. how do I check
whether its connected in mass storage mode?
thanks,

On 4/17/11, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hy sir
 when we connect our phones to pc
 it gives some options like mass storage device and pc camera
 make sure that memory card is properly inserted in the phone and it is
 connected in mass storage mode
 regards

 On 4/17/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 a friend just got a micromax x200. when its connected to the pc
 through the data cable, the phone gets charged, and thus  its not
 possible to access the memory card. no cd was given along with the
 phone. is there any special driver software to be installed? where can
 it be downloaded? is there something that can be done with the
 settings?
 thanks in advance,

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Re: [AI] internet 9

2011-04-04 Thread Mahesh Panicker
niether IE9 or FFirefox4 are quite comfortable with Jaws 11, at least
that has been my experience. as far as IE9 is concerned, there is no
progress bar support, the status bar is also not available with Jaws.
the biggest problem I found though was the huge gaps between lines
when you navigate using arrow keys that eventualy forced me to
downgrade. but all said and done, the thing seem really fast, faster
than any other version of IE, and even for that matter FF3.6.
now on Firefox 4, firstly webvisum wasn't available, now that problem
is solved as they've come up with an update that works fine with the
latest FF version. however with Jaws11, again the new firefox itself
is not accessible. you can't navigate the page with the arrow keys,
nor does the normal reading commands work.
still finding it dificult to downgrade, as I don't have the copy of
the previous version.

On 4/4/11, firoz firoj...@gmail.com wrote:
 i am using jaws 12 and so far so good

 i have hot find any prob with it



 On 4/3/2011 11:04 AM, Ajay Minocha wrote:
 Hy sir
 does it is accessible with jaws?
 or I will have to remain to firefox
 weighting for a satisfactory reply
 chears

 On 4/3/11, firozfiroj...@gmail.com  wrote:
 this i have copied from the other list

 Internet Explorer 9 Released: Here’s What You Need To Know

 image

 Microsoft has released the final version of Internet Explorer 9, and
 there’s just one question you should be asking yourself: Should I bother
 installing
 it? Here’s everything you need to know about the latest release of
 Microsoft’s infamous browser.

 Spoiler alert: If you are running Windows 7 or Vista, you should
 absolutely install IE9 on your PC—even if you prefer Chrome or Firefox,
 it’s better to
 have a secure, updated version of Internet Explorer.

 What’s New in Internet Explorer 9?

 If you want to see the full list of changes with all the original
 marketing detail, you can read Microsoft’s
 Beauty of the Web page,
 but here’s the highlights that you might be interested in.

 list of 5 items
 • Completely New Interface – as you can see in the screenshot above,
 there’s a completely new interface, designed from the ground up to save
 space on the
 screen—in fact, it uses even less pixels than Google Chrome.
 • Hardware Acceleration – IE9 is the first browser that taps into the
 power of your video card to make everything faster, by default. This
 browser is blazing
 fast, all around.
 • Pinned Sites – While Google Chrome might have started out with their
 web applications concept, IE9 takes it to another level by allowing site
 owners to
 customize the menus for sites pinned to the Windows 7 taskbar.
 • HTML5 Support – Microsoft has finally learned from their past
 mistakes, and focused on getting I.E. to the point of compliance with
 Internet standards.
 There’s a lot of whiners out there that say Microsoft didn’t make it
 work well enough, but I think it’s a good first step.
 • Combined Search / Address Bar – IE9 integrates the two boxes together
 into one, and even adds search suggestions that work quite well, similar
 to Google
 Chrome’s combined omnibox.
 list end

 There’s a ton of other, smaller, features below the hood, but these are
 the most interesting features. I’ve also highlighted some of them in
 screenshots
 below.

 You probably want to get to the screenshots, but first, here’s a couple
 of answers to questions you haven’t asked yet.

 list of 5 items
 • No, Internet Explorer 9 does not work on Windows XP.
 • Yes, you can install IE9 over top of the beta version if you had that
 installed.
 • Yes, If you have 32-bit Windows, you should install the 32-bit version.
 • Yes, If you have 64-bit Windows, you should install the 64-bit version
 (which includes the 32-bit version). Yes, you should upgrade to this
 version.
 • Yes, if you
 click this link
 it will take you to the download page.
 list end

 Where Can You Download It?

 I’ll have to assume that eventually Microsoft will offer IE9 through
 Windows Update, but for the moment, you’ll need to click the following
 link to download
 IE9. Remember to pick the right version for your operating system.

 http://www.beautyoftheweb.com/#/download

 image

 The new combined search/address bar is smart, and it’ll provide
 interesting suggestions right there in the browser itself. One of my
 favorites is the weather
 checker, which actually shows an image based on what’s going on outside.
 You know, cause looking out the window isn’t very geeky.

 image

 If you don’t like the combined Address Bar and Tabs on the same row, you
 can right-click on any of the tabs and choose “Show tabs on a separate
 row”. Note
 that you can also drag the divider between the address bar and the tabs
 to resize the address bar.

 image

 I totally stole this screenshot from Microsoft’s marketing page, since
 it does a great job of showing how the pinned sites feature works. Just
 drag the
 tab for any site to the taskbar, and voila! New pinned tab with a fun

Re: [AI] Web visum not working

2011-04-01 Thread Mahesh Panicker
webvisum is working fine for me, but can't navigate using Jaws 11.
doesn't it support the latest version of firefox? how do I downgrade
to 3.6 now? do I have to uninstall and then reinstall again?
thanks,

On 4/1/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 No sir just give it one more shot, you won't require sighted help. Normal
 tab and errow keys will help.

 -Original Message-
 From: Bharat Bhardwaj
 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:28 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum not working

 no, no problems here. earlier i faced a challenge as i even
 uninstalled the latest firefox, but after they released the update to
 the add on, it is working seemlessly. though they definitely have
 messed up the dialoguebox dealing with the addons. you might want
 someone sighted to have a look at that dialoguebox.

 On 3/31/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've updated WebVisum, and then updated Firefox. however I can't read
 the text, although Webvisum is working. has Jaws 11 got a problem with
 Firefox4?

 On 3/31/11, Bharat Bhardwaj bhara...@gmail.com wrote:
 h,
 in the meantime, webvisum released an update of their add on, V. 8.0 
 so, i upgraded to firefox 4 with the latest webvisum update.

 On 3/31/11, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi web visum had released 0.8 version so update it. it might solve your
 issues.

 On 3/31/11, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi, it is not compatible with Firefox 4 hence it is getting disabled.
 on 3.5 it is working fine tested 3.6.5 till 3.6.16. further as you
 know Firefox automatically gets updated when a update is available so
 check your version by Insert control V

 On 3/30/11, Bharat Bhardwaj bhara...@gmail.com wrote:
 even i have observed that, webvisum is no longer functional, even when
 it is enabled. There's no information about its status on the webvisum
 homepage as well.

 On 3/30/11, padmanabham padmanabam.mu...@gmail.com wrote:
 open mozella go to tools ad ons hit on webvisum enable if it is
 disable.
 regards
 Padmanabham Muppa.
 - Original Message -
 From: Rajdeep Manwani kmrajd...@gmail.com
 To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:23 PM
 Subject: [AI] Web visum not working


 Dear friends
 For some strange reason my web visum for firefox has stopped working
 I am using firefox 3.5 and i have tried uninstalling and re
 installing
 the

 web visum add on but nothing seems to work.
 Please guide me regarding the same.
 regards
 Rajdeep
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Re: [AI] Web visum not working

2011-03-31 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I've updated WebVisum, and then updated Firefox. however I can't read
the text, although Webvisum is working. has Jaws 11 got a problem with
Firefox4?

On 3/31/11, Bharat Bhardwaj bhara...@gmail.com wrote:
 h,
 in the meantime, webvisum released an update of their add on, V. 8.0 
 so, i upgraded to firefox 4 with the latest webvisum update.

 On 3/31/11, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi web visum had released 0.8 version so update it. it might solve your
 issues.

 On 3/31/11, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi, it is not compatible with Firefox 4 hence it is getting disabled.
 on 3.5 it is working fine tested 3.6.5 till 3.6.16. further as you
 know Firefox automatically gets updated when a update is available so
 check your version by Insert control V

 On 3/30/11, Bharat Bhardwaj bhara...@gmail.com wrote:
 even i have observed that, webvisum is no longer functional, even when
 it is enabled. There's no information about its status on the webvisum
 homepage as well.

 On 3/30/11, padmanabham padmanabam.mu...@gmail.com wrote:
 open mozella go to tools ad ons hit on webvisum enable if it is
 disable.
 regards
 Padmanabham Muppa.
 - Original Message -
 From: Rajdeep Manwani kmrajd...@gmail.com
 To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:23 PM
 Subject: [AI] Web visum not working


 Dear friends
 For some strange reason my web visum for firefox has stopped working
 I am using firefox 3.5 and i have tried uninstalling and re installing
 the

 web visum add on but nothing seems to work.
 Please guide me regarding the same.
 regards
 Rajdeep
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Re: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?

2011-03-27 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I have tried paragraph navigation using p and it sorte of works, but
not quite comfortable.

On 3/27/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Mahesh Sir, could navigating with ctrl+down erro be a solution?
 @Minocha Sir, both are freewares, please refer the appropriate websites
 mentioned in my previous mail..
 -Original Message-
 From: Mahesh Panicker
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:10 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?

 has anyone else experienced any problem on IE 9 when navigating a page
 with the arrow keys? as I have mentioned, the gap between lines of
 text is so much I had the problem with www.cricinfo.com to start with,
 but now I realize its there for many other sites, like
 www.indianexpress.com
 www.dailypioneer.com as well. didn't have this issue in IE8. is there
 a way to deal with this particular issue.
 best,

 On 3/27/11, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hy amar sir
 are the both software freewares?
 can salona work with IE9?
 please reply soon
 thanks and regards

 On 3/27/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Minocha Sir,
 Firefox has got an extra add on called webvisum, which is a kind of
 software, and wherever you find a captcha, press ctrl+alt+6, and it will
 send the captcha to its server, thereafter the results will be on your
 clipboard, which can happily be pasted on the edit box where it asks you
 to
 fill the captcha.
 The add on works till firefox 3.6, and more details can be found on their
 website: www.webvisum.com
 For Internet explorer there is a service which does the same thing but
 with
 the help of real persons, called solona, and more information is at:
 solona.net
 However solona is much complicated than webvisum.
 Regards
 Amar Jain.
 -Original Message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:42 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?

 Hy amar sir
 in your message you mentioned that you use mozilla fire fox
 just to solve captcha please through some more light on your centence
 does it has some thing special for dealing with captcha?
 I have a lot of problams regarding that because I only stuck in
 serfing or downloading a song
 when the website asks to enter the coad written in the image and I
 don't know how to do it
 with best regards


 On 3/26/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have installed IE9, and its works OK.
 however I've found some more problems with other than what Amar has
 already mentioned. in some sites, when you navigate using arrow keys,
 the gap between text seems to be quite a lot. can I do something about
 it? I faced the issue when checking www.cricinfo.com


 thanks in advance,
 On 3/26/11, farooq ahmad hfahmad...@gmail.com wrote:
 hay   i need o.v map for nokia n79 please send me if u have
 - Original Message -
 From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?


 thanks Amar for the info.
 does IE 9 come with a download manager like they have in FF? I have
 somewhat started shifting to FF, but with Jaws 11, there seems to be
 some problem, as it tends to get stuck, particularly when there is
 flash content involved. heard IE 9 has some major improvement  when it
 comes to video and other flash content?

 On 3/26/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 IE 9 works with jaws with little difficulties.
 The problems are following:
 1. Jaws does not read the status bar and nor does it announce the
 progress
 while opening any page.
 2. Unlike previous versions, this time file download box doesn't come
 in
 another window, it comes in the same window itself.
 Basically its not the accessibility issue, its just like how we get
 chats

 in
 latest skype if we are on default view.
 To deal with file download box, one has to first come to address bar,
 then
 press shift tab twice or so, you should get the cancel, and by more
 shift
 tabs buttons like save split, open, etc.
 People say keystrokes like f6 or alt N will bring your focuss on that
 dialogue, but I'm laisy in trying that :)
 The address bar and search bar is intigrated into one address box.
 That
 does
 not cause any issue.
 3. Sometimes in rare cases Jaws is announcing extra element
 information
 on
 web pages, but not a severe problem.
 Other than this, I have not come across any other issue.
 As far as firefox 4 is concerned, in terms of usability with jaws
 there
 is
 no issue. However as you rightly pointed out that webvisum is not
 working
 with ff4 as of now.
 Please note, I am not big fan of firefox, I use only for captcha
 solving,
 therefore I have not explored it deeply.
 IE9 has been tested with Jaws 11 by my friend, and I have been using
 it
 with
 12, and in both versions situation seems to be same.
 Regards
 Amar Jain.
 -Original Message-
 From: Mahesh Panicker
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:56

[AI] IE9 and Jaws?

2011-03-26 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi friends.
both Mozilla and Microsoft have come out with upgrades to their
browsers. I have read in many places including this platform that the
firefox upgrade has problems working with accessible technology like
webvisum, and hence not quite ready for use by the visually
challenged.
I would like to know what's the situation with IE9? read somewhere its
also not quite accessible? do we have some scripts?
thanks in advance,

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Re: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?

2011-03-26 Thread Mahesh Panicker
thanks Amar for the info.
does IE 9 come with a download manager like they have in FF? I have
somewhat started shifting to FF, but with Jaws 11, there seems to be
some problem, as it tends to get stuck, particularly when there is
flash content involved. heard IE 9 has some major improvement  when it
comes to video and other flash content?

On 3/26/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 IE 9 works with jaws with little difficulties.
 The problems are following:
 1. Jaws does not read the status bar and nor does it announce the progress
 while opening any page.
 2. Unlike previous versions, this time file download box doesn't come in
 another window, it comes in the same window itself.
 Basically its not the accessibility issue, its just like how we get chats in
 latest skype if we are on default view.
 To deal with file download box, one has to first come to address bar, then
 press shift tab twice or so, you should get the cancel, and by more shift
 tabs buttons like save split, open, etc.
 People say keystrokes like f6 or alt N will bring your focuss on that
 dialogue, but I'm laisy in trying that :)
 The address bar and search bar is intigrated into one address box. That does
 not cause any issue.
 3. Sometimes in rare cases Jaws is announcing extra element information on
 web pages, but not a severe problem.
 Other than this, I have not come across any other issue.
 As far as firefox 4 is concerned, in terms of usability with jaws there is
 no issue. However as you rightly pointed out that webvisum is not working
 with ff4 as of now.
 Please note, I am not big fan of firefox, I use only for captcha solving,
 therefore I have not explored it deeply.
 IE9 has been tested with Jaws 11 by my friend, and I have been using it with
 12, and in both versions situation seems to be same.
 Regards
 Amar Jain.
 -Original Message-
 From: Mahesh Panicker
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:56 AM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?

 hi friends.
 both Mozilla and Microsoft have come out with upgrades to their
 browsers. I have read in many places including this platform that the
 firefox upgrade has problems working with accessible technology like
 webvisum, and hence not quite ready for use by the visually
 challenged.
 I would like to know what's the situation with IE9? read somewhere its
 also not quite accessible? do we have some scripts?
 thanks in advance,

 --
 Mahesh S. Panicker
 Q1/5;2nd Floor; Left Portion ;Private Colony;Srinivas Puri;
 New delhi india.

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Re: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?

2011-03-26 Thread Mahesh Panicker
has anyone else experienced any problem on IE 9 when navigating a page
with the arrow keys? as I have mentioned, the gap between lines of
text is so much I had the problem with www.cricinfo.com to start with,
but now I realize its there for many other sites, like
www.indianexpress.com
www.dailypioneer.com as well. didn't have this issue in IE8. is there
a way to deal with this particular issue.
best,

On 3/27/11, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hy amar sir
 are the both software freewares?
 can salona work with IE9?
 please reply soon
 thanks and regards

 On 3/27/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Minocha Sir,
 Firefox has got an extra add on called webvisum, which is a kind of
 software, and wherever you find a captcha, press ctrl+alt+6, and it will
 send the captcha to its server, thereafter the results will be on your
 clipboard, which can happily be pasted on the edit box where it asks you
 to
 fill the captcha.
 The add on works till firefox 3.6, and more details can be found on their
 website: www.webvisum.com
 For Internet explorer there is a service which does the same thing but
 with
 the help of real persons, called solona, and more information is at:
 solona.net
 However solona is much complicated than webvisum.
 Regards
 Amar Jain.
 -Original Message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:42 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?

 Hy amar sir
 in your message you mentioned that you use mozilla fire fox
 just to solve captcha please through some more light on your centence
 does it has some thing special for dealing with captcha?
 I have a lot of problams regarding that because I only stuck in
 serfing or downloading a song
 when the website asks to enter the coad written in the image and I
 don't know how to do it
 with best regards


 On 3/26/11, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have installed IE9, and its works OK.
 however I've found some more problems with other than what Amar has
 already mentioned. in some sites, when you navigate using arrow keys,
 the gap between text seems to be quite a lot. can I do something about
 it? I faced the issue when checking www.cricinfo.com


 thanks in advance,
 On 3/26/11, farooq ahmad hfahmad...@gmail.com wrote:
 hay   i need o.v map for nokia n79 please send me if u have
 - Original Message -
 From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?


 thanks Amar for the info.
 does IE 9 come with a download manager like they have in FF? I have
 somewhat started shifting to FF, but with Jaws 11, there seems to be
 some problem, as it tends to get stuck, particularly when there is
 flash content involved. heard IE 9 has some major improvement  when it
 comes to video and other flash content?

 On 3/26/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 IE 9 works with jaws with little difficulties.
 The problems are following:
 1. Jaws does not read the status bar and nor does it announce the
 progress
 while opening any page.
 2. Unlike previous versions, this time file download box doesn't come
 in
 another window, it comes in the same window itself.
 Basically its not the accessibility issue, its just like how we get
 chats

 in
 latest skype if we are on default view.
 To deal with file download box, one has to first come to address bar,
 then
 press shift tab twice or so, you should get the cancel, and by more
 shift
 tabs buttons like save split, open, etc.
 People say keystrokes like f6 or alt N will bring your focuss on that
 dialogue, but I'm laisy in trying that :)
 The address bar and search bar is intigrated into one address box.
 That
 does
 not cause any issue.
 3. Sometimes in rare cases Jaws is announcing extra element
 information
 on
 web pages, but not a severe problem.
 Other than this, I have not come across any other issue.
 As far as firefox 4 is concerned, in terms of usability with jaws
 there
 is
 no issue. However as you rightly pointed out that webvisum is not
 working
 with ff4 as of now.
 Please note, I am not big fan of firefox, I use only for captcha
 solving,
 therefore I have not explored it deeply.
 IE9 has been tested with Jaws 11 by my friend, and I have been using
 it
 with
 12, and in both versions situation seems to be same.
 Regards
 Amar Jain.
 -Original Message-
 From: Mahesh Panicker
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:56 AM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] IE9 and Jaws?

 hi friends.
 both Mozilla and Microsoft have come out with upgrades to their
 browsers. I have read in many places including this platform that the
 firefox upgrade has problems working with accessible technology like
 webvisum, and hence not quite ready for use by the visually
 challenged.
 I would like to know what's the situation with IE9? read somewhere its
 also not quite accessible? do we have some scripts?
 thanks

Re: [AI] [bsftb] all india radeo commentary link needed

2011-03-09 Thread Mahesh Panicker
AIR commentary used to have its times, but since they started giving
the commentary based on TV visuals, it really have gone down.
commentators such as Suresh Sariya  and Vinit Garg still maintain a
high standard because of their in depth knowledge of the history of
the game itself.
but BBC 5live, and ABC radio still keep up very high standards, and
the fact that they are available online is an added advantage. but the
BBC doesn't make it available when England play away from home.

On 3/10/11, Sandeep Gautam sandeepgautam.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I presume, the commentators of radio are very informative, interesting and
 experienced.
 with ball by ball updates, they provide so much statistics and past records.
 Dear,
 we can evaluate the popularity of radio commentators, as, in this world cup,
 star sports hire some radio commentators like,
 sunil vaidya and vineet garg

 Sandeep G

 - Original Message -
 From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] [bsftb] all india radeo commentary link needed


 But over the past few years, the quality of radio commentary is certainly
 deteriorating.
 Vikas Kapoor,
 MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas,
 Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
 - Original Message -
 From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] [bsftb] all india radeo commentary link needed


 listening cricket on radio still exciting. laptop and desktop can not
 fulfill the purpose.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sandeep Singh sandeepsingh...@gmail.com
 To: mahesh maheshs...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] [bsftb] all india radeo commentary link needed


 Hey guys, don't make life so technology dependent, please use radio to
 listen to all india radio commentary!

 At 09:10 PM 08-03-11, you wrote:
visit
www.cricketfreeq.com

u will listen the live match comandery
   - Original Message -
   From: prasanth P.V.
   To: bsftb ; accessindia
   Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:36 PM
   Subject: [bsftb] all india radeo commentary link needed



   hello group, is there any link to hear the all india radeo comentary
   of the world cup cricket matches? hoping for your reply,

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Re: [AI] websight for live cricket.

2011-03-06 Thread Mahesh Panicker
as far as live text is concerned, 'www.cricinfo.com
is the best.
for the world cup, www.espnstar.com
has live streaming.
for other matches, if you want live streaming, webcric is quite good.

On 3/6/11, bhavesh dhanak bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 1 can also try:

 www.cricvid.com

 Pressing enter, just starts the  live cricket.

  If you don't get time to pray, try to make people laugh! 

 For gossips, feel free to catch me on:
 Skype: bhavesh.dhanak
 Yahoo Messenger: bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in
 Windows Live: bhavesh.dha...@hotmail.com
 To drop an Email: bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com

 With Smile and thanks from Bhavesh Dhanak.
 - Original Message -
 From: Sinoj sinoj...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] websight for live cricket.


 Try this
 http://cricket.oneindia.mobi
 This is Mobile site also Very accessible in PC
 - Original Message -
 From: VIJAY KUMAR P.V.S. vijay.palakod...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] websight for live cricket.


 Try this link

 http://www.webcric.com/index.htm

 With warm regards
 VIJAY
 - Original Message -
 From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com
 To: polite.s...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] websight for live cricket.


 Hi,

 You can also get scores from

 www.cricinfo.com

 It is very much accessible on the computer as well as on the mobile.

 I know there is a web site where you can watch live match, but not
 sure of it's address.

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 On 3/6/11, sonu bishansingh661...@gmail.com wrote:
 helo accessindian friends plese tell me websight from where we enjoy
 of live cricket matches.
 with regard sonu.

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Re: [AI] Regarding Google inaccessible applications

2011-03-02 Thread Mahesh Panicker
certainly google chrom. its quite fast I am told, but absolutely
inaccessible. even google talk is not completely accessible, and the
same with the web based office products.
hopefully google would take this up seriously.


On 3/2/11, Janardhana Naidu jnga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Sir,
 i appriciate your efforts for conducting servay on google products.
 it would be more benificial if you could prepare and circulate a
 questionnaire on accessibility of google products with different
 screen readers.I feel gootle crome is not at all accessible.
 Best wishes for your servay,
 janardhana Naidu.
 On 3/2/11, suman damera suman...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,
 Please provide the list of Google inaccessible applications and also
 mention major inaccessible functionalities in it as Enable India is
 doing survey. If possible, we will work with Google to make those
 applications accessible.

 I know few popular inaccessible applications such as Google Docs,
 Google talk Google calendar.

 Any other inaccessible Google popular applications apart from those?

 Please help us!!

 Thanks.


 Regards
 Suman
 ■Software Engineer - Testing■
 ■Enable India to empower people with disabilities■
 ■Main Office: #12 (Ground Floor), KHB Colony, Brahma Kumari
 RoadKoramangala 8th Block, Bangalore 560 095■
 ■Phone:  4282 3636 /98453 13919■
 ■Email:   su...@enable-india.org■
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Re: [AI] new website for rights of persons with disabilities bill 2011

2011-02-15 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Thanks a lot Prateek for this initiative.
 I have been able to access the site and download the documents.
thanks

On 2/15/11, prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Respected Mr. devendra, my apologies for the inconvenience caused.

 The links works fine here in testing.
 I’d be interested to know what specific problem you’re facing while
 opening them.
 I’m guessing that your browser is trying to open the document rather
 giving the options to download it, and hence you’re unable to locate
 the correct document.
 Here’s  what you can try:
 1.Reach to the link for the file that you wish to download.
 2.Press right mouse button (num pad slash) and locate “save as link”
 in firefox or “save as target” in internet explorer.
 3.Press enter and you should see a standard save as dialogue box.
 Choose where to save the file, and enjoy.

 Let me know if you’re still not able to reach the file.

 Others are also requested to inform if the links are not working there.

 Regards,
 Prateek agarwal.
 Website:
 www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
 |
 www.prateekagarwal.tk

 daedal technovations PVT. LTD:
 we bring the change we wish to see!
 www.daedaltechnovations.com

 -- Original message --
 From: Devendra Nikose d_nik...@yahoo.co.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:40:03 +0530
 Subject: Re: [AI] new website for rights of persons with disabilities bill
 2011
 Hello Prateek,
 The links of this website are not working. I tried to download the
 bill but couldn't succeeded.
 Regards
 Devendra Nikose
 - Original Message - From: prateek aggarwal
 prateekagarwa...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:27 PM
 Subject: [AI] new website for rights of persons with disabilities bill 2011


 Respected members,
 As we have reached to an important stage on the new persons with
 disabilities  act, it has become so essential to voice our opinions
 and spread maximum  awareness about final draft of the  bill  soon as
 possible.
 i’ve  been following list  mails where some of the prominent folks
 have suggested that the draft bill should be available to download,
 and there should also be a place where concerned people can gain
 updates about consultations in their states, voice opinions, and help
 to formulate a productive law which will help each one of us in the
 long run.
 Keeping in view the need and urgency of technological presence of such
 a resource place and your precious advise,
 I have created an exclusive website for the rights of persons with
 disabilities bill.
 The website will cater need of all the interested folks who would like
 to download draft bill  in English and their regional languages, voice
 their opinions to masses , and obtain latest updates.

 Please visit the website at:
 www.rightsofpwd.tk

 in addition of downloading the draft, please also take time to write
 your precious suggestions/ recommendations by commenting  on the blog
 section of the website.
 Soon, the website will have information about dates and venues of
 different state consultations too.

 I hope this step will prove utility and help us formulated an even
 powerful and fruitful law for each one of us.

 Regards,
 Prateek agarwal.
 Website:
 www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
 |
 www.prateekagarwal.tk

 daedal technovations PVT. LTD:
 we bring the change we wish to see!
 www.daedaltechnovations.com

 Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability info!



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New delhi india.

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Re: [AI] Regarding PNB ATM card.

2011-01-13 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I had a very dificult time with PNB on geting my ATM. the law of the
land is that the visually challenged, like any other Indian citizen,
is entitled to all banking facilities including ATM card and check
book. I got both these facilities, all be after a rzather bitter
struggle. so what I would say is first of all you show the RBI
circular and the IBA one, and expect them to act sensible. or else,
just fight on, approach the RBI, and other authorities.
best,

On 1/14/11, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear sir
 I was not able to locate any talking ATM machine in Faridabad
 I have recently opened my accounted allmost just 10 days ago
 till now I have not even tried my card
 with best regards


 On 1/13/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 no talking ATM. we have to memorise the sequence, buttons and functions of
 the machine. if you want to use talking ATM, you should travel to delhi to
 withdraw your money!
 thanks!

 - Original Message -
 From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 6:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding PNB ATM card.


 Just one question: how do you use your ATM cards? Do all other cities
 except Kolkata have talking ATM services?

 - Original Message -
 From: Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding PNB ATM card.


 Hy sir
 where do you live
 because I have recently started a savings account with PNB in Faridabad
 I am also a partially blind person
 But they did'nt showed any difficulty in providing an ATM card to me
 I did'nt even show them the RBI and other serculars

 On 1/12/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 punjab national bank issue credit card to blind, then wy not debit
 card?

 if
 any problem persist, you can quote my customer ID. will let you know if
 needed.


 - Original Message -
 From: shiv kashimpuria shivkumar1...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:36 PM
 Subject: [AI] Regarding PNB ATM card.


 Hello all,

 I want to know whether Punjab National Bank issue ATM card to the
 blind, because I want to open a savings account with the same but my
 branch denying to issue ATM card as I am a blind.

 Please someone suggest with details.

 Regards


 Shiv Kumar
 Kolkata






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Re: [AI] problem with real player downloader

2010-12-20 Thread Mahesh Panicker
don't think I have the said program installed. I use Nero with CDs.
thanks,

On 12/20/10, Amit Sanghvi jayinfot...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Mahesh,


 Seems you are having some cd emulator programs like daemon tools,or like.
 Plz close that program  check


 Hope this helps
 Amit

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 Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 02:17
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] problem with real player downloader

 hello list.
 I am facing a rather strange problem with real player downloader. when
 ever I download something through the progrem, there is a blue screen
 crash. ones the system restarts, problem reports and solutions window
 comes up and it says that the Adaptec ASPI 32 driver has created the
 problem and it has to be updated. but when I click on the given link,
 the page opens but it says page cannot be found.
 my laptop is Aser Aspire 4930, and the os is Vista Home Premium.
 how do I update the driver?
 please do help.
 best,

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[AI] problem with real player downloader

2010-12-19 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hello list.
I am facing a rather strange problem with real player downloader. when
ever I download something through the progrem, there is a blue screen
crash. ones the system restarts, problem reports and solutions window
comes up and it says that the Adaptec ASPI 32 driver has created the
problem and it has to be updated. but when I click on the given link,
the page opens but it says page cannot be found.
my laptop is Aser Aspire 4930, and the os is Vista Home Premium.
how do I update the driver?
please do help.
best,

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Re: [AI] Query about gmail

2010-11-16 Thread Mahesh Panicker
google is becoming far too insensitive to the visually challenged
user. the older version of the standard that worked a charmed with
screen readers is now made unavailable, and now the auto fill in
feature seems to have some problems. I don't have the issue all the
time, its there at times, but not always. may be we should think of
some ways of reaching our complaints to google as a collective so that
they understand the magnitude of the problem. should we do an online
petition? what do you all think?
regards,

On 11/17/10, Sharma G chintu.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,


 On Monday, Google debuted some major changes. Google, one of the most
 popular search engines on the Web, is known for returning extremely
 relevant search results. Their recent partnership with Yahoo! has
 brought them publicity and increased traffic.

 What exactly are these new changes, and how will they affect you?

 Paid Links

 The new paid link program has been running for a couple weeks now,
 company officials say, but the program has gone unadvertised so that
 Google could slowly beta test the system.

 Paid links appear above normal search results. They have a different
 colored background and are marked Sponsored Link. The idea is to set
 off Google's editorial search results from the paid links in a
 visually distinct way, so users aren't confused about which results
 are paid and which come from Google's search algorithm. This is
 important for visitors who use Google because it produces excellent
 search results and don't just want to be told which company paid the
 most money for a listing.

 This new development is also important for Web site owners who use
 Google to get traffic. Much like GoTo or FindWhat, one can now pay a
 fee to be displayed prominently in a search for certain keywords on
 Google. This site has often preached the importance of being listed in
 Google. Google can send lots of traffic to your site, so just being in
 there at all is a must for the successful promotion of your site. Now
 there's a way you can be displayed at the top of the results for your
 keywords.

 There are a few caveats about this, however.

 I made a few test searches on Google that might be of interest to the
 netbusiness owner. The sponsored links returned were only for
 well-known very high-traffic sites. This, combined with the enormous
 popularity of Google, leads me to believe that paid links on Google
 might be quite expensive. There are no exact figures on the Google Web
 site, but I have a feeling that actually getting displayed for
 meaningful keywords could be too pricey for the small to medium
 business owner.

 Also, if you do get listed, I think that many users will be turned off
 by the sponsored links. People use Google more than pay for position
 search engines because of the usefulness of the results it returns.
 Google users are interested in what Google thinks the best match for
 their search is. As such, many of them will probably just skip the
 obviously marked sponsored links.

 Once again, I have to give Google a lot of credit for clearly
 distinguishing sponsored links from their normal search results and
 not trying to trick their visitors. Also, if a site has to have
 sponsors, it's great not having to wait for a banner to load to get
 your search results.

 Stock Quotes

 The second change Google made this week was to make it easier to find
 stock information. Now, whenever you search for a company's stock
 symbol on Google, at the top of the search results is a link to show
 the stock quotes for that company.

 Also, if you search by name for a publicly traded company, you get a
 link to that company's stock quotes. This is very convenient if you
 don't happen to know a company's symbol off the top of your head.

 Additional Languages

 Google's third big change is the inclusion of ten new search
 languages. Users can now display Google search tips, help pages, and
 messages in Czech, Estonian, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Icelandic,
 Latvian, Lithuanian, Polish, and Romanian. This brings Google's total
 number of supported languages up to twenty-five.

 This is great for the ebusinessperson, who can now reach new users all
 over the world.

 So...

 Google is still the same search engine it was last week. It still
 returns very accurate search results, and people will continue using
 it in the same numbers they have in the
 past.

 source(http://www.ipowerweb.com/iboost/promote/search_engines/articles/20002.htmgood
 )
 With regards,


 On 11/16/10, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use Outlook Express, but so far search results are concerned - we need
 to
 bring up the heading list (insert + F6) and click on any result to
 navigate
 properly. Shadab

 There is enough light for one who wants to see.
 Easy tips of improving English at
 http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/
 My contributions to the press
 http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#link
 Many posts on one 

Re: [AI] problem in gmail

2010-09-22 Thread Mahesh Panicker
if that's what google has decided, then I think that's not something
in our interest. their google chrom also is not accessible, and may be
its time we make ourselves heard to google. the standard older version
is been the most comfortable thing for the visually challenged user,
and if they are facing it out, we should protest.
best,

On 9/22/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 To revert back to html, do the following:

 1. Open an e-mail message.

 2. Click the link: view as html.

 3. Click the link: set html as the default view.

 That's it and you are done.

 Vetri.

 On 21/09/2010, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi list
 I am facing a problem with my gmail account from today onwards. I
 generally use gmail in the standard view, in the older version.
 however from today onwards, I am not able to find the older version
 link after my gmail page gets loaded. it has not happened with all the
 gmail account, in another account, I am still able to access the older
 version link.
 in basic html version, some of the features like keybord shortcuts are
 missing, but I don't find the newer version of the standard view all
 that comfortable with jaws. has anyone been using the newer standard
 version in gmail? if so, how is the experience?
 waiting for your response,
 best,

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[AI] problem in gmail

2010-09-21 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list
I am facing a problem with my gmail account from today onwards. I
generally use gmail in the standard view, in the older version.
however from today onwards, I am not able to find the older version
link after my gmail page gets loaded. it has not happened with all the
gmail account, in another account, I am still able to access the older
version link.
in basic html version, some of the features like keybord shortcuts are
missing, but I don't find the newer version of the standard view all
that comfortable with jaws. has anyone been using the newer standard
version in gmail? if so, how is the experience?
waiting for your response,
best,

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[AI] problem with loptop keybord

2010-09-01 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list
over the last few days, I am facing a very strange problem with my
laptop keybord, particularly with Jaws. whenever I am using jjaws, the
jaws keep saying printscreen. on the face of it, the print screen key
doesn't seem to be stuck. I don't have any issue with K1000 the
problem is there only when using Jaws. when you do continious reading,
it stops in between, and keep saying printscreen. is it some hardware
problem? or is it some problem with Jawys?
thanks in advance.

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[AI] alternatives for flash player?

2010-08-15 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list
I have been facing a problem with Adobe Flash Player for some days
now.some sites want the latest version of flash player to play vidio
from, but the instal process of flash player isn't quite accessible
with jaws. do we have any accessible alternatives to flash player that
is accessible and perform better?
thanks in advance,

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Re: [AI] new window micro max mobile

2010-07-31 Thread Mahesh Panicker
would talks support the model? or do we have anything else to provide
screen reader support?
thanks,

On 7/31/10, Anuj Verma ak.divyadris...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 Hi Access indian,


 google_protectAndRun(ads_core.google_render_ad, google_handleError, 
 google_render_ad);



 Micromax has launched the W900 running Windows Mobile 6.1  and the phone 
 reminds us of the Nokia 5800 for sure. Since the phone runs on WinMo you get 
 MS office and related goodies.  And the best feature of the phone is that the 
 W900 comes with Local Maps courtesy of MapmyIndia which even partnered with 
 Motorola recently

 This is the first Micromax handset based on Windows and interesting features 
 include WiFi , 2 MP Camera , Bluetooth and Voice Assisted Navigation. The 
 W900 is powered by a 460MHz CPU and has 128MB of RAM.
 Micromax W900 Specifications and Features





 Form Factor

 Bar Style


 Band

 Quad-band 850/900/1800/1900MHz


 Weight

 113g


 Dimensions

 112×55x14.2mm


 Display

 262K, 3.2 inch WQVGA Touchscreen


 Camera

 2.0 MP


 Music

 Multi Format Music Player (MP3 / AMR / MIDI / WMA)


 Operating system

 Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional


 CPU

 K3 Hi3611 460MHz Processor


 GPS

 Yes, with maps from Mapmy India


 Motion Sensor

 Yes


 WLAN

 WiFi 802.11b/g


 3.5MM Jack




 Video Player

 WMV/WMA/Mp4/H.263/AVI


 Messaging

 Yes, SMS/MMS/EMS/Email


 Games

 Yes


 EDGE/GPRS/WAP/MMS

 Yes, EGPRS (Class10)


 PhoneBook Memory

 Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall


 Internal Memory

 256MB ROM, 128MB RAM


 Expandable Memory

 MicroSD (upto 16GB)


 Battery Type

 Li-ion 1500mAh


 Talk Time

 Up to 5 hours


 Standby Time

 Up to 480 hours
 Micromax W900 Price and Availability
 The handset has been launched recently and price is expected to be Rs.7700.  
 At that price with WiFi and India Maps the W900 seems pretty enticing but 
 only WinMo seems a bit stale.

 Dr. A.K. Verma
 mob- 09837269234
  blog-  www.akayurvedatreatment.blogspot.com


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[AI] problems with firefox and JAWS.

2010-07-22 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi listers.
after I installed Jaws 11 on my system, I am facing a strange problem
with firefox. often with some sites, even after the page is opened,
Jaws doesn't recognize heddings and links. one has to quit Jaws and
restart it to be  able to read the links and heddings. even the arrow
keys won't work when the thing gets stuck. I am using the latest
version of Jaws, and I use webvisum as well. my OS is windows Vista
home premium.
any suggestions?
thanks in advance,
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Re: [AI] scripts needed for google crome

2010-07-19 Thread Mahesh Panicker
its a shame Google Chrome is not yet accessible to the visually
challenged user. in terms of speed, its much faster than IE, or for
that matter Firefox. from the link Rupakshi provided, it appears
google at last is getting round to the problem. however, JAWS, the
most popular screen reader, is not on the top of their priority, as
not much has been done on providing accessibility.
anyone has any idea whether the FS people are doing something about it?
regards,

On 7/18/10, Roopakshi Pathania r_akshi_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Google's accessibility team has started work to make Google Chrome accessible.
 Currently, the development versions or the nightly builds of Chrome have 
 partial  support for some of the screen readers.
 The following link gives more information. It also lists other links that may 
 be of interest.
 http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/user-experience/screen-reader-support

 Regards
 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [AI] scripts needed for google crome
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 4:56 PM
  as per my knowledge there are no
  scripts for it. if anyone had any
  updated information please share it for us.
 
  On 7/12/10, austin pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   --
   from austin
  
   hello friends i want to use google crome and have
  tried using it but
   jaws is not supporting so can i get scripts for it i
  use jaws
   11.0.1447 thanks in advance
  
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[AI] problem with booting computer.

2010-07-13 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi listers.
I am facing an issue with my desktop loaded with windows XP. after
showing the welcome screen, it is not booting up. its just showing not
enough system resources. earlier, the system had warned about not
having enough space on drive C. is the present issue an aftereffect of
the same? if then what can I do other than formatting?
thanks in advance,


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Re: [AI] problem with booting computer.

2010-07-13 Thread Mahesh Panicker
how can I boot the system on safe mode?
thanks,

On 7/13/10, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 try booting in system safe mode as it doesn't start all processes. try
 uninstalling some Software's from there and re-boot normally.

 On 7/13/10, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi listers.
  I am facing an issue with my desktop loaded with windows XP. after
  showing the welcome screen, it is not booting up. its just showing not
  enough system resources. earlier, the system had warned about not
  having enough space on drive C. is the present issue an aftereffect of
  the same? if then what can I do other than formatting?
  thanks in advance,
 
 
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Re: [AI] Now, a car for the blind

2010-07-03 Thread Mahesh Panicker
it may take some more time, but a very interesting development indeed.
but as has been said, it would be the Indian authorities, and their
possible reactions, and their paternalism that comes to mind along
with  this news.

On 7/3/10, aisha sahani mailtoaishasah...@gmail.com wrote:
 interesting development, but i am   afraid this is just going to be a
 showpiece.
 with increasing accidents  even with sighted people, i don't know how
 this car will perform on the road when a blind person would be driving
 the same.

 objects and bumps on the road are the hurdles and i don't know how
 will they be overcome.
 anyway, interesting knowing about it.


 aisha sahani.


 On 7/3/10, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
  Wonder how this car would perform on Indian roads. Further, the question
  would be, will the blind driver in India get a drivers license -
  Original Message -
  From: Gopalakrishnan gopalakrishnan_...@yahoo.co.in
  To: Access India accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:04 AM
  Subject: [AI] Now, a car for the blind
 
 
  S  T
 
 
 
  Technology
 
 
 
  Now, a car for the blind
 
 
 
  London, July 2, 2010
 
 
 
  PTI
 
 
 
  Scientists are inching closer to develop a special car, which can be driven
  by blind motorists.
 
 
 
  The unique car, expected to be built as early as next year, will be equipped
  with a new technology that would help a sightless person to get behind the
  wheel.
 
 
 
  The technology, called non-visual interfaces, will guide its driver through
  traffic by transmitting information about nearby vehicles or objects.
 
 
 
  Vibrating gloves or streams of compressed air directed behind the wheel are
  among the options for communicating the information needed to avoid
  collisions and reach a destination.
 
 
 
  The National Federation of the Blind of the U.S. and Virginia Tech, which
  are jointly developing the car, said they hope to demonstrate a prototype of
  the car in 2011, the Telegraph reported.
 
 
 
  “We’re exploring areas that have previously been regarded as unexplorable,”
  said Dr. Mark Maurer, president of the National Federation of the Blind.
 
 
 
  “We’re moving away from the theory that blindness ends the capacity of human
  beings to make contributions to society.”
 
 
 
  Mr. Maurer first came up with the idea that the blind could drive about a
  decade ago when he launched the organisation’s research institute.
 
 
 
  “Some people thought I was crazy, and they thought, ‘Why do you want us to
  raise money for something that can’t be done?’ Others thought it was a great
  idea,” Dr. Maurer said.
 
 
 
  “Some people were incredulous. Others thought the idea was incredible.”
 
 
 
  The vehicle is based in Virginia Tech’s 2007 entry into the DARPA Grand
  Challenge, a competition for driverless vehicles financed by the Defence
  Department’s research arm.
 
 
 
  The blind organisation was impressed by the invention, saying it is part of
  a broader mission, which will change the way people perceive the blind.
 
 
 
  Mark Riccobono, executive director of The NFB’s Jernigan Institute, said:
  “This will change when people see that we can do something that they thought
  was impossible.”
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS

2010-06-03 Thread Mahesh Panicker
good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged.
one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled
phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead?
and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions
so that people need not blaim the organization itself.

On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote:
 Welcome Sir!
 - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh
 rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM

 Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS


  Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!!
  (Smile)
  No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a
 central banker!!!
 
 
  Regards
 
  Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.
 
--Arthur C. Clarke
 
  (Rajesh Asudani)
 
  Assistant General Manager,
  Reserve Bank of India
  Nagpur
  09420397185
  O: 0712 2806676
  Res: 0712 2591349
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Kamal Verma
  Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
 
  How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community.
 
  Kamal Verma
  - Original Message -
  From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com
  To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM
  Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
 
 
  hello accessindia!
 
  i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the
  interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables,
  please check the correct formatting before taking printout of  the
 circular.
 
  thanks,
 
  bhawani
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS

2010-06-03 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Mr. Verma, thanks for the clarification.

On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote:
 Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only.
 Kamal Verma
 - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker
 maheshspanic...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM

 Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS


  good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged.
  one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled
  phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead?
  and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions
  so that people need not blaim the organization itself.
 
  On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote:
 
   Welcome Sir!
   - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh
   rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM
  
   Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
  
  
Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!!
(Smile)
No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a
   central banker!!!
   
   
Regards
   
Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
   Him.
   
  --Arthur C. Clarke
   
(Rajesh Asudani)
   
Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
   [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
   Of Kamal Verma
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
   
How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community.
   
Kamal Verma
- Original Message -
From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM
Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
   
   
hello accessindia!
   
i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in
  the
interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables,
please check the correct formatting before taking printout of  the
   circular.
   
thanks,
   
bhawani
   
   
   
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Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS

2010-06-03 Thread Mahesh Panicker
although Punjab National Bank for ones has decided to come out of the
rudd of discrimination against the disabled by formulating a policy to
issue credit cards, that doesn't mean they are doing an act of charity
to the visually challenged. it is a responsibility and a legal and
constitutional stipulation that they are meetting.
however as any such policy is open to public scrutiny, particularly on
the part of the stake holders, there will be questions asked,
clarifications sorted, and criticisms leveled against. that is how a
democracy work, and one has to learn to be tolerant to this democratic
right.
although PNB's efforts at bringing a sense of clarity to the issue of
credit card to the visually challenged is a welcomed step, many of us
feel that some of the stipulations included in the proposed policy are
unfair and even illogical. AI members working with PNB would do well
to engage with these criticisms, and since they are better placed in
the organization, they can take it up at the appropriate levels. that
is entirely up to them, but at least crude remarks and assertions
regarding the visually challenged who are struggling for their rights
can be avoided.

On 6/4/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Dear Kamal
 I am not concerned with the moral of the story, but with story itself.
 You say: People cannot afford technology, but they still want facilities.
 What do you mean?
 Everybody wanting a credit card should be able to afford technology?
 Ridiculous!
 You also say:
 People want facilities at their convenience.
 Yes, of course, facilities are for convenience
 Do you require sighted credit card holders to have all technical gadgets 
 before giving them one?
 Do you take an undertaking from them that their mobile SMS would not be read 
 by anybody in any circumstances?

 We take a general undertaking that the details of the card would not be 
 shared, and it is their own responsibility if they are so shared.
 The same undertaking would suffice for the blind as well, without any 
 stipulation about possession of any gadgets.

 You also say:
 BLIND is mahatma in society and now he is supposed to be above god, etc...

 I do not wish to reply to assertions like these.
 Don't be a stereotypical banker.


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349




 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma
 Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:47 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS

 Dear Amiyo,

 People want facilities at their convinience and conditions. They cannot
 afford the technology, but they still need facilities. A blind is supposed
 to be a Mahatma in the society. But, now, a blind is greater than god. We
 have to fulfil their needs and conditions at any cost at their convenience
 only. This is the moral of this story.

 Regards.
 Kamal Verma.
 - Original Message -
 From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS


  So, what is the moral of the story? Which banks allowcredit cards and
  which banks ATM? I am really frustrated with banks. In fact, I am a bit
  nervous. They always barrage me with questions.
 
  With Best regards,
  Amiyo Biswas.
  Cell: 91-9433464329
 
  - Original Message -
  From: mahendra gal...@chello.at
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
 
 
 i don't understand,  it is okay to give credit card but not ATM?
  wiche is more risky?
  i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors
  and restorences then with ATM.
  one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication,
  no such need with ATM!!.
 
 
 
  At 02:22 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote:
 there are 100s of rules and laws lying in india, either unused,  misused
 or wrongly interpreted. even indian evidence act is quite old. better
 option is apply credit card facility if you want with PNB. you can quote
 the circular if they deny such facility. no one can defame the entire
 organisation, if one particular case is wrongly treated. thousands of
 rape committed daily, should we blame the entire male population of our
 country? numbers of false cases registered under IPC498A, should we blame
 the entire female society?
 
 - Original Message - From: Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
 
 
 Hi Mr. Kamal Varma,
 
 

Re: [AI] Cheque book with thumb impression

2010-06-01 Thread Mahesh Panicker
well, I did have a similar problem with the Punjab National Bank. I
was initialy refused the check book facility, but later on I was given
the facility on the condition that for withdrawing, I have to be
physically present, and I can use the check book only for  utility
purposes like repaying loans.
regards,

On 6/1/10, Eyeway Helpdesk helpd...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi all,


 Though the IBA circular of November 2008 says that all the banking facilities 
 should be also extended to those visually impaired people who use thumb 
 impression, but even open minded banks/managers have stated they do not have 
 manual or technological capacity to verify thumb print on a issued cheque. So 
 they cannot issue cheque book to people who do not sign.



 One of our recent callers from Bahadurgarh, has account in SBI. Fortunately 
 his manager was open enough to patiently listen to him and then to us on 
 phone, he also read the circulars. Expressing the same incapacity, the 
 manager asked us if there anybody so enjoying a cheque book facility, he 
 would like to learn how is it works.



 So we want to know the people among us or outside our group who has been 
 given cheque book facility with:

  1.. permission to use only their thumb impression to authenticate their 
 cheques,
  2.. and their bank official does not counter signs it to validate it.


 Please get back to us on or off the list on the below contacts.



 Thanks and regards,


 Pranay Gadodia | Programme Manager
 Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource for living a fuller life with vision 
 loss
 C/o Score Foundation, 17/107, Vikram Vihar, Basement, Lajpatnagar 4, New 
 Delhi 110024, INDIA.

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Dayanand Colony;
Lajpat Nagar4;

New delhi india.

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[AI] any online audio commentary links for the Zimbabwe series?

2010-05-28 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list
is there any links available for live audio of the 3 nation cricket
tournament in Zimbabwe?
thanks in advance,

-- 
Mahesh S. Panicker
C123;
Dayanand Colony;
Lajpat Nagar4;

New delhi india.



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Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

2010-05-26 Thread Mahesh Panicker
 -
  From: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
 
 
  no sir, its not a question of ego here. in my opinion, both the
  parties
  are almost right on their places. generally, all these facilities are
  quite risky for the blind, that's why, most of the bank manager of
  various
  banks are not even against the blind customers but don't want to give
  all
  these facilities to the them only because they know,
  in case of any fraud with the blind customer, they may be questioned
  before the court and may be punished for their negligence.
  In various banks, where the branch manager is flexible and satisfied
  with
  your arguments or fully aware with the rules and regulations, they are
  more sympathetic  with the blind. They don't create such problems to
  any
  of the blind person. More or less,  they are not our enemy so
  the issue should be raised before the higher authorities  with the
  help
  of various NGO's.
 
  With Regards
  B. R. Nautial
  Mobile: +919915073368
  - Original Message -
  From: Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
 
 
  Dear Sir,
 
  The customer is trying to satisfy his ego. Otherwise, he should have
  produced NOC or any such endorsement from his parrents.  The problems
  might have been solved. Details of this blind  customer have not been
  discussed in the list. There are number of blind customers availing
  ATM,
  cheque book and other facilities from PNB.
 
  Regards.
  Kamal Verma
  - Original Message -
  From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
 
 
 Who is bloody branch manager to sit in judgment over rules
  framed
  by regulator?
  If he/she has to question them, let him represent to central bank or
  government, for the time, rules are there, he has to comply with
  them.
  If we give in to approach of petty functionaries thwarting rules,
  there
  will be no rule of law in this country.
  Moreover, why does anybody require banking facilities? So, there is
  no
  rational behind this question.
  And, about ATM, bank is not responsible anyway for misuse or loss.
  Check book is another matter, and I have time and again pointed out
  the
  lacunae in the policy pertaining to it.
  So, we can not hold bankers denying it to fault.
 
  Regards
 
  Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to
  create
  Him.
 
 --Arthur C. Clarke
 
  (Rajesh Asudani)
 
  Assistant General Manager,
  Reserve Bank of India
  Nagpur
  09420397185
  O: 0712 2806676
  Res: 0712 2591349
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal
  Verma
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:51 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
 
  Hello,
 
  Noone has to deform such a pioneer corporate like PNB. RBI framed
  rules
  and
  circulars, but being a Branch Manager, it seems impractical to issue
  ATM
  card to the blind customers. Let me argue the matter with the blind
  customer
  who is in need of ATM card and cheque book. Why does he need ATM
  card
  and
  cheque book and how shall I issue? Let him convince me.
 
  Thanks.
  Kamal Verma
  - Original Message -
  From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
 
 
  dear Mr. Verma. .
  surprised to know someone has something nice to say about PNB. I
  haven't find many other organizations as obnoxious as PNB is. I had
  a
  real struggle to get my ATM card from PNB. in fact, I'd contacted
  the
  higher authorities as well. but at the end of the day, I had to
  complaint to the RBI, and also to the NHRC and the government of
  India
  ministry of finance to get my card. after all that, I got my card
  after a good 7 months. recently too, I had a terrible time with the
  PNB, when I applied for a check book. as I already mentioned, this
  happened after I submitted the RBI circular on the rights of the
  disabled on banking facility.
  and then we all have the story of a visually challenged being asked
  to
  provide a NOC from the parents to avail an ATM card. have you heard
  of
  anything more obnoxious?
  banks in general, and PNB in particular have a horrible record when
  it
  comes to acknowledging the rightful claims of the disabled. so we
  have
  to take the struggle against such horrible institutional nonsense
  to
  all possible levels including the media.
 
  On 5/24/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I am surprised to note

Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

2010-05-25 Thread Mahesh Panicker
, but being a Branch Manager, it seems impractical to
 issue
  ATM
  card to the blind customers. Let me argue the matter with the
 blind
  customer
  who is in need of ATM card and cheque book. Why does he need ATM
 card
  and
  cheque book and how shall I issue? Let him convince me.
 
  Thanks.
  Kamal Verma
  - Original Message -
  From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
 
 
  dear Mr. Verma. .
  surprised to know someone has something nice to say about PNB. I
  haven't find many other organizations as obnoxious as PNB is. I
 had a
  real struggle to get my ATM card from PNB. in fact, I'd contacted
 the
  higher authorities as well. but at the end of the day, I had to
  complaint to the RBI, and also to the NHRC and the government of
  India
  ministry of finance to get my card. after all that, I got my card
  after a good 7 months. recently too, I had a terrible time with
 the
  PNB, when I applied for a check book. as I already mentioned,
 this
  happened after I submitted the RBI circular on the rights of the
  disabled on banking facility.
  and then we all have the story of a visually challenged being
 asked
  to
  provide a NOC from the parents to avail an ATM card. have you
 heard
  of
  anything more obnoxious?
  banks in general, and PNB in particular have a horrible record
 when
  it
  comes to acknowledging the rightful claims of the disabled. so we

  have
  to take the struggle against such horrible institutional nonsense
 to
  all possible levels including the media.
 
  On 5/24/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I am surprised to note various complaints against PNB in this
 list.
  I
  am
  availing all the banking facilities, such as cheque book, debit
  card,
  credit
  card, internet banking, etc. PNB does not ignore the blind
  community,
  hence
  if any problem occurs, it may be communicated to the higher
  authorities
  of
  PNB with the name and designation of the concerned officer.
 
  Thanks.
  Kamal Verma
 
  - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker
  maheshspanic...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
 
 
 
   banking is one area where there is a lot of discrimination
 against
   the
   visually challenged. opening an account itself isn't any
 easier,
   but
   ones you open an account, getting the common banking
 facilities
   like
   ATM cards and check book is an absolute nightmare.I've an
 account
   with
   the Punjab National Bank, and I had my struggle of my life to
 get
   my
   ATM card issued. it took me a good 7 month for the same to be
   done.
   the struggle for the check book was also on similar lines, and
   although I've got the checkbook, it has come with a lot of
   conditions.
   most people on access india can tell you similar stories. I
   believe
   some of our own members have taken a lot of initiative in this
   regard,
   and the 2008 RBI order is an achievement because of such
   initiatives.
  
   On 5/23/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
blind persons should organize and conduct an agitation
 before
the
  banking
division and finance ministry. this is the only solution.
- Original Message - From: rahul cherian
rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:47 PM
Subject: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
   
   
   
 Folks,

 I have been asked to prepare a comprehensive note on the
 issues
 that
persons
 with visual impairment face with banking in India,
 especially
 in
  
  leading
 banks such as ICICI, HDFC and SBI, along with possible
 solutions.
 This
note
 has been asked for by some senior people I know personally
 in
 these
  
  banks.
 If anyone would like to help me prepare this note do let
 me
 know
 at
  the
 earliest. If anyone has the details of any such note which
 has
 been
prepared
 earlier do forward that to me.

 Best regards,

 Rahul Cherian
 Inclusive Planet

 On 23 May 2010 12:39, Srinivasu Chakravarthula
sriniv...@srinivasu.orgwrote:


  Hi Dinesh,
  Can you provide us with little more details about your
  problem
  with
  Yahoo! Messenger so as to help you better?
 
  Regards,
  Srinivasu
 
  On 5/23/10, dinesh shukla dineshshukla2...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   dear friends I am not able to chatte with the help
 of
   Yahoo
  massenger.
   please help me to do  the same telling me the steps.
   Dinesh
Shukla.
  
  
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Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI.

2010-05-25 Thread Mahesh Panicker
if some of our friends are concerned about their banks being
'deformed', rather than preaching submission to the disabled, they can
engage with the hideous structures of denial that exist within these
institutions.
I care more about my rights and claims than that of the name of some
discriminating bloody brand.
if the brand wants to maintain its good name, then it has to go by the
law of the land. not by idiocy and nonsensesm.

On 5/25/10, Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Folks,heir banks being 'deformed', rather than preaching submission
 I think, we should learn to be rude. May be we should do this.
 Approach the bank and if denied for any facility in spite having all
 necessary pre-requesites like any other customer, ask the BM to give
 the same in writing. Either they have to give us all the facilities or
 should reject our application by writing. In my view, we don't even
 need to show any circulars. Is the other customers showing any
 circular to avail any facility? If not, why should we do when we will
 be same kind of transactions? It's banks responsibility to know the
 rules that exist.

 Cheers,
 Srinivasu

 On 5/25/10, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
  sure awareness about us is very importent, but BM must follow the rules.
  no discussion about that.
 
  At 11:01 AM 5/25/2010, you wrote:
 Of course, we have to fight for our rights. I have made efforts many
 times with various banks for facility of ATM card, net banking,
 vehicle loan, etc. to the blind people. We cannot change the
 attitude of such bank managers or administrators by only rules and
 regulations. We have to make publicity at large to let such
 managers/administrators aware of our capabilities, problems and our
 existence too
 Thanks.
 Kamal Verma
 - Original Message - From: Subramani L
 lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI.
 
 
 Thank god that he deals with the bank manager who understands that being
 blind doesn't impair his intelligence. Listen Kamal... I am not here to
 malign the public image of PNB or accuse the bank of wrong doing. If you
 ar fair and understand the fact that they, like so many offenders of the
 RBI regulations in the past, have failed to take into account the rights
 of a visually challenged person and so they are answerable. Their
 offence cannot be left unquestioned because they have reputation. It
 looks like more branch managers of that particular bank has caused
 problems to the visually challenged. So, we are discussing about
 them
 
 Subramani
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:16 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI.
 
 Devendra Nikose is availing all the facilities from PNB. He is a blind
 customer of PNB.
 - Original Message - From: Subramani L
 lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI.
 
 
 My wife is not living with me, but I need to pay my bills. So... If I
 were to do the right thing, I must first look out for a joint
 account
 holder and then go to the bank instead of pressurising the bank to
 give
 mee my account in my name. Bcause, according to you, asking the bank
 to
 give me services which they give for others is  deforming them. As a
 tax paying citizen, the best I can do is to beg my money from the
 banker
 because he thinks more than the safety of my money than what I can
 think
 of it myself... So much for the right approach!!!
 
 Subramani
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal
 Verma
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:01 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI.
 
 Such approach is better than deforming the bank.
 Kamal Verma.
 - Original Message - From: devendra d_nik...@yahoo.co.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:25 PM
 Subject: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI.
 
 
 Hello friends,
 I opened account in SBI. when I applied for ATM card and cheque book,
 the
 bank manager refused it. He suggested me to convert the account into
 a
 
 joint account.  After converting the account into a joint account
 with
 my
 wife, the manager issued both ATM and cheque book in the name of my
 wife.
 I made online complain through the website of SBI and I received a
 call
 from the Bhopal SBI that they will issue me the ATM card after
 installing
 screen reading software in the local ATM machine.
 Regards
 Devendra Nikose
 
 
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Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

2010-05-24 Thread Mahesh Panicker
dear Mr. Verma. .
surprised to know someone has something nice to say about PNB. I
haven't find many other organizations as obnoxious as PNB is. I had a
real struggle to get my ATM card from PNB. in fact, I'd contacted the
higher authorities as well. but at the end of the day, I had to
complaint to the RBI, and also to the NHRC and the government of India
ministry of finance to get my card. after all that, I got my card
after a good 7 months. recently too, I had a terrible time with the
PNB, when I applied for a check book. as I already mentioned, this
happened after I submitted the RBI circular on the rights of the
disabled on banking facility.
and then we all have the story of a visually challenged being asked to
provide a NOC from the parents to avail an ATM card. have you heard of
anything more obnoxious?
banks in general, and PNB in particular have a horrible record when it
comes to acknowledging the rightful claims of the disabled. so we have
to take the struggle against such horrible institutional nonsense to
all possible levels including the media.

On 5/24/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote:
 Hello all,

 I am surprised to note various complaints against PNB in this list. I am
 availing all the banking facilities, such as cheque book, debit card, credit
 card, internet banking, etc. PNB does not ignore the blind community, hence
 if any problem occurs, it may be communicated to the higher authorities of
 PNB with the name and designation of the concerned officer.

 Thanks.
 Kamal Verma

 - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker
 maheshspanic...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking



  banking is one area where there is a lot of discrimination against the
  visually challenged. opening an account itself isn't any easier, but
  ones you open an account, getting the common banking facilities like
  ATM cards and check book is an absolute nightmare.I've an account with
  the Punjab National Bank, and I had my struggle of my life to get my
  ATM card issued. it took me a good 7 month for the same to be done.
  the struggle for the check book was also on similar lines, and
  although I've got the checkbook, it has come with a lot of conditions.
  most people on access india can tell you similar stories. I believe
  some of our own members have taken a lot of initiative in this regard,
  and the 2008 RBI order is an achievement because of such initiatives.
 
  On 5/23/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   blind persons should organize and conduct an agitation before the
 banking
   division and finance ministry. this is the only solution.
   - Original Message - From: rahul cherian
   rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:47 PM
   Subject: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
  
  
  
Folks,
   
I have been asked to prepare a comprehensive note on the issues that
   persons
with visual impairment face with banking in India, especially in 
 leading
banks such as ICICI, HDFC and SBI, along with possible solutions. This
   note
has been asked for by some senior people I know personally in these 
 banks.
If anyone would like to help me prepare this note do let me know at
 the
earliest. If anyone has the details of any such note which has been
   prepared
earlier do forward that to me.
   
Best regards,
   
Rahul Cherian
Inclusive Planet
   
On 23 May 2010 12:39, Srinivasu Chakravarthula
   sriniv...@srinivasu.orgwrote:
   
   
 Hi Dinesh,
 Can you provide us with little more details about your problem with
 Yahoo! Messenger so as to help you better?

 Regards,
 Srinivasu

 On 5/23/10, dinesh shukla dineshshukla2...@gmail.com wrote:
  dear friends I am not able to chatte with the help of Yahoo
 massenger.
  please help me to do  the same telling me the steps. Dinesh
   Shukla.
 
 
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Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

2010-05-24 Thread Mahesh Panicker
well if convincing the bank manager as to why I need an ATM card is
the basis of issuing the card, then that should apply to all
customers.
an ATM card is needed to take out money easily, and like anyone, I may
can use it for the same. alternatily, I might just avail the facility,
and just keep it locked away for ever. that is none of the bloody
business of the bank. I need an ATM card because I am entitled to it.
so long as it the demand is within the legal framework, the bank
manager needs to know nothing more.

On 5/24/10, Mukesh Sharma mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The preview of the question should be general and not of disability, and
 take a note, with a simple requisition form one can avail the facility of
 Cheque book, no one ask any question to so called normal customer.
 The incident in state bank, when asking for ATM card, the manager refused to
 tell where to sign in the application form stating that when you are
 applying for ATM card and should locate the signature field on your own. In
 front of 10 customer.
 On the other hand when applied for credit card of State bank, the executive
 visited home and completed all the required documentation and the card was
 issued without any problem.

 No offense intended.

 Thanks
 Mukesh


 -Original Message-
 From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA [mailto:bsvermad...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:39 PM
 To: mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

 bank has right to ask question for check book. ATM card should be given
 easily.


 - Original Message -
 From: Mukesh Sharma mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking


  If you feel No one has to deform such a pioneer corporate like PNB, the
  bank should work in guidelines provided by Regulating authority. Being
  famous or having a vast contribution in economy do not mean that you are
  good for the society or for every matter, it could be a disease making you

  a
  big entity similar to terrorist group (they also play a good role in
  shaping
  economy of the world).
  If some day your employer ask you why do you need a job? what would be
  your answer? Your answer is what the answer should be for the question
  Why
  does he need ATM card and Cheque book and how shall I issue? though for
  the
  how you should issue part, ah please check your manuals, you can not
  expect
  a common man to guide you through procedures.
 
  Further, I have had different experience with different branches of PNB
  and
  on top of everything have had different opinion from 2 official of the
  same
  branch over the question of ATM card and Cheque Book facility to VI
  customer.
  I think every year the bank should conduct annual exam or monthly test on
  circulars and guidelines, failing to which the officer should be sent to
  training department, failing 3 times in a row should result in expulsion.
 
 
  Thanks
  Mukesh
 
  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:51 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
 
  Hello,
 
  Noone has to deform such a pioneer corporate like PNB. RBI framed rules
  and
  circulars, but being a Branch Manager, it seems impractical to issue ATM
  card to the blind customers. Let me argue the matter with the blind
  customer
  who is in need of ATM card and cheque book. Why does he need ATM card and
  cheque book and how shall I issue? Let him convince me.
 
  Thanks.
  Kamal Verma
  - Original Message -
  From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
 
 
  dear Mr. Verma. .
  surprised to know someone has something nice to say about PNB. I
  haven't find many other organizations as obnoxious as PNB is. I had a
  real struggle to get my ATM card from PNB. in fact, I'd contacted the
  higher authorities as well. but at the end of the day, I had to
  complaint to the RBI, and also to the NHRC and the government of India
  ministry of finance to get my card. after all that, I got my card
  after a good 7 months. recently too, I had a terrible time with the
  PNB, when I applied for a check book. as I already mentioned, this
  happened after I submitted the RBI circular on the rights of the
  disabled on banking facility.
  and then we all have the story of a visually challenged being asked to
  provide a NOC from the parents to avail an ATM card. have you heard of
  anything more obnoxious?
  banks in general, and PNB in particular have a horrible record when it
  comes to acknowledging the rightful claims of the disabled. so we have
  to take the struggle against such horrible institutional nonsense to
  all

Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

2010-05-23 Thread Mahesh Panicker
banking is one area where there is a lot of discrimination against the
visually challenged. opening an account itself isn't any easier, but
ones you open an account, getting the common banking facilities like
ATM cards and check book is an absolute nightmare.I've an account with
the Punjab National Bank, and I had my struggle of my life to get my
ATM card issued. it took me a good 7 month for the same to be done.
the struggle for the check book was also on similar lines, and
although I've got the checkbook, it has come with a lot of conditions.
most people on access india can tell you similar stories. I believe
some of our own members have taken a lot of initiative in this regard,
and the 2008 RBI order is an achievement because of such initiatives.

On 5/23/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 blind persons should organize and conduct an agitation before the banking
 division and finance ministry. this is the only solution.
 - Original Message - From: rahul cherian
 rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:47 PM
 Subject: [AI] Difficulties in Banking



  Folks,
 
  I have been asked to prepare a comprehensive note on the issues that
 persons
  with visual impairment face with banking in India, especially in leading
  banks such as ICICI, HDFC and SBI, along with possible solutions. This
 note
  has been asked for by some senior people I know personally in these banks.
  If anyone would like to help me prepare this note do let me know at the
  earliest. If anyone has the details of any such note which has been
 prepared
  earlier do forward that to me.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Rahul Cherian
  Inclusive Planet
 
  On 23 May 2010 12:39, Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 sriniv...@srinivasu.orgwrote:
 
 
   Hi Dinesh,
   Can you provide us with little more details about your problem with
   Yahoo! Messenger so as to help you better?
  
   Regards,
   Srinivasu
  
   On 5/23/10, dinesh shukla dineshshukla2...@gmail.com wrote:
dear friends I am not able to chatte with the help of Yahoo
   massenger.
please help me to do  the same telling me the steps. Dinesh
 Shukla.
   
   
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Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.

2010-05-23 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Harishji.
even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are
looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I
had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a
person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was
after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the
principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way.
it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the
media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave
talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get
some more details on the issue.
best,

On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote:
 Hi

 RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has
 recognized the legal capacity of blind persons.

 Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see
 only 2 cinereous.

 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank.
 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension.

 In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly.

 Harish Kotian.

 - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM
 Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.



 
  A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary
 branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked
 him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents.
 
  The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened
 in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for
 such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention
 towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules
 for such matters.
 
 
 
  NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf.
 
  Regards.
 
  Suhas Karnik.
 
 
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Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.

2010-05-23 Thread Mahesh Panicker
would RTI be of some help? the PNB people, when my check book struggle
was going on, often talked about their guideline. when I'd asked
access to it, they didn't give me any clear answer. since we have a
few among our ranks working in the banking sector, may be we can get a
better idea on this. do the banks, and particularly the PNB have got a
guideline on dealing with the disabled customer? is it available in
the public domine? if not, can we access using RTI?

On 5/24/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Yes, I admit RBI instructions have a symbolic value largely.
 Even if they are blatantly flouted, there is hardly anything central bank of 
 the country does, more so for an instruction targeted at marginalized group 
 like VI.
 So, it is high time we switch into agitation mode.
 We can, for now, try to have many provisions incorporated into new law.
 That also is not going to solve all problems, for any law just lays down the 
 outline at best, detail modalities again fall upon internal regulations, 
 which if not in conformity with statute have to be quashed down by courts of 
 law.
 So, it is a vicious circle, you know.


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

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 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
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 O: 0712 2806676
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 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mahesh Panicker
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:50 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.

 Harishji.
 even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are
 looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I
 had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a
 person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was
 after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the
 principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way.
 it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the
 media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave
 talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get
 some more details on the issue.
 best,

 On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote:
  Hi
 
  RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has
  recognized the legal capacity of blind persons.
 
  Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see
  only 2 cinereous.
 
  1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank.
  2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension.
 
  In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly.
 
  Harish Kotian.
 
  - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM
  Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
 
 
 
  
   A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary
  branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked
  him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents.
  
   The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened
  in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for
  such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention
  towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules
  for such matters.
  
  
  
   NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf.
  
   Regards.
  
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Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.

2010-05-22 Thread Mahesh Panicker
PNB has a horrible record in such matters, but this time around, they
have really gone absolutely mad.
I, after a lot of struggle, got my ATM card from PNB, although I had
to give an undertaking owning up all responsibilities in case of
misuse, there was no NOC from the parents.

On 5/22/10, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
 is he under 18? if not why? very funny.

 At 04:38 PM 5/21/2010, you wrote:

  A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary
 branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked
 him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents.
 
  The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened
 in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for
 such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention
 towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules
 for such matters.
 
 
 
  NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf.
 
  Regards.
 
  Suhas Karnik.
 
 
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Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.

2010-05-22 Thread Mahesh Panicker
if you can provide some more details, we can try and take it up with
the media. please sent the details to
maheshspanic...@gmail.com

regards

On 5/22/10, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 PNB has a horrible record in such matters, but this time around, they
 have really gone absolutely mad.
 I, after a lot of struggle, got my ATM card from PNB, although I had
 to give an undertaking owning up all responsibilities in case of
 misuse, there was no NOC from the parents.

 On 5/22/10, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
  is he under 18? if not why? very funny.
 
  At 04:38 PM 5/21/2010, you wrote:
 
   A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary
  branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked
  him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents.
  
   The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened
  in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for
  such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention
  towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules
  for such matters.
  
  
  
   NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf.
  
   Regards.
  
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Re: [AI] Announcing the alpha release of Malayalam Text to Speech system

2010-05-10 Thread Mahesh Panicker
is there a plan to develop windows support for this interesting
program? what kind of functionalities are available in this program?
best,

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 Friends,

 We are glad to announce the release of Swaram - the first Text to
 Speech System in Malayalam, based on the festival engine. You can
 download the package from
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/swaram/files/Swaram.tar.gz/download

 This is an alpha release primarily intended for testing purposes and
 bug-fixing. This has been tested with version 1.96 of the festival
 speech engine, and is expected to work on GNU/Linux distributions
 which uses GNOME as the desktop interface.

 This programme was developed as part of the INSIGHT project (
 insight.kerala.gov.in), a joint initiative of Kerala State IT Mission
 ( itmission.kerala.gov.in ) and SPACE ( space-kerala.org ).

 The software was developed almost entirely by the efforts of Mr. Rijoy
 V, who has been working on this for the past 10 months. Kindly send in
 your queries and suggestions to rijoy dot v at gmail.com.

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Re: [AI] [AccessComp] the new set of JAWSScripts for Yahoo! messenger

2010-05-06 Thread Mahesh Panicker
does this work with previous versions of Jaws?

On 5/5/10, Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Thanks Bharat for sharing scripts for Yahoo! Messenger.

 Folks,
 We really would like to hear from you to improve the messenger and other
 Yahoo! products from accessibility prospective. Please do drop us an email
 and share your comments. You can email us at accesslab...@yahoo-inc.com

 Also, stay tuned to y-accessibility Yahoo! Group to know about the
 accessibility improvements of our products. If you are not already a member,
 you can subscribe by sending an email to
 y-accessibility-subscr...@yahoogroups.com

 Thanks and enjoy chatting.

 Srinivasu

 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Bharat Bhardwaj bhara...@gmail.com wrote:

  appologies for the broken link. here is a sendspace link. please passalong
  to one  all.
 
  http://www.sendspace.com/file/jm3phl
 
 
  On 5/5/10, Gene Stevens guy.stev...@att.net wrote:
  
  
  
   Sorry... that link generates a not found error.
  
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   in case this hasn't been passed along, please go ahead  download a new
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Re: [AI] the new set of JAWSScripts for Yahoo! messenger

2010-05-06 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I am using JAWS 10.
best,

On 5/6/10, Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Mahesh,
 Which version are you using?

 On 5/6/10, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
  does this work with previous versions of Jaws?
 
  On 5/5/10, Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org wrote:
  Thanks Bharat for sharing scripts for Yahoo! Messenger.
 
  Folks,
  We really would like to hear from you to improve the messenger and other
  Yahoo! products from accessibility prospective. Please do drop us an email
  and share your comments. You can email us at accesslab...@yahoo-inc.com
 
  Also, stay tuned to y-accessibility Yahoo! Group to know about the
  accessibility improvements of our products. If you are not already a
  member,
  you can subscribe by sending an email to
  y-accessibility-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 
  Thanks and enjoy chatting.
 
  Srinivasu
 
  On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Bharat Bhardwaj bhara...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   appologies for the broken link. here is a sendspace link. please
   passalong
   to one  all.
  
   http://www.sendspace.com/file/jm3phl
  
  
   On 5/5/10, Gene Stevens guy.stev...@att.net wrote:
   
   
   
Sorry... that link generates a not found error.
   
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hi all,
   
in case this hasn't been passed along, please go ahead  download a
new
   set
of JAWSScripts for yahoo! messenger that work with the latest build of
   JAWS
11  yahoo! messenger 10.
   
the direct URL for the scripts is:
   
   
   
   http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/EAHfSwkyP-l7QUZOq8WHW9nS8HkxpTS5C0QGZHhu9foxAiWi1-HFFWb15SWrc5tCKJXUr_Zs6VRWjWj6D_l8WA/Sets%20and%20Scripts/yahooMessenger.zip
   
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Re: [AI] Accessibility on Face Book

2010-05-01 Thread Mahesh Panicker
an update on facebook accessibility.
I have today discovered that facebook has in fact got an HTML version.
the mobile site
http://www.m.facebook.com is quite accessible. if you go the facebook
help centre, there are directions as to how to go about the site.
regards,

On 4/30/10, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 in fact, it would be great if people could write on the list itself.
 I've created an account on facebook, but I have found it dificult to
 use, social networking sites like orkut and twitter are much more
 accessible than facebook in my experience.

 On 4/29/10, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
  Dear Friends,
 
  I know that  a number of our members are quite active on Face Book. Are
  there convenient and quick ways of working with Face Book using Jaws? You
  could write to me off the list with your experiences and advice.
 
  Thanks and regards,
 
  George
  George Abraham
  CEO
  Score Foundation
  17/107, Basement,
  Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
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  India
  Ph: 91 11 26472581
  Telefax: 91 11 26472582
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Re: [AI] World T20 live stream on espnstar.com

2010-05-01 Thread Mahesh Panicker
is it  free as was the case with IPL live streaming?

On 5/1/10, moiz tundawala moiztundaw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All
 This is to let everyone know that ESPNSTAR is live streaming the World
 T20 on its website:
 www.espnstar.com
 (Go to live TV)
 The quality of the streaming yesterday was fantastic. And unlike
 youtube during IPL, this is not a delayed broadcast.
 Best,
 Moiz.


 --
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 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons.,
 West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences,
 NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City,
 Kolkata, 700 098

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Re: [AI] banking facilities to visually impaired

2010-04-29 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi
absolutely wonderful news. have you got a check book facility as well?
recently, I've had a big struggle against the Punjab National Bank on
the issue. they had initially refused to give me the facility, but
when I insisted, and showed the RBI circular on the issue, and when
the principal and other friends of the college I work intervined, they
did give me the checkbook. however, they have given it with some
conditions, I use thumb impression, and they are saying for
withdrawing I've to be present in person.
it would be nice to know your experience on all these issues.
congrats for winning the battle.

On 4/29/10, Kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Kindly share the CCPD order with the group so that it works as a precedent.
 Kanchan
 - Original Message - From: u. srinivasan rusva...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: vib-in...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:21 PM
 Subject: [AI] banking facilities to visually impaired



  Hello friends,
  after a year long struggle to avail ATM and other banking facilities from
 the Canara Bank and intervention of CCPD, I have finally got all the
 benefits from the said bank to-day.
  Thanks to CCPD.
  Likewise, if they come forward to get reservation on promotion to group A
 and B posts then it will be a great success for us.  Will they do?
  With regards,
  Srinivasan
  Mobile : 094440 52635
 
 
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Re: [AI] Accessibility on Face Book

2010-04-29 Thread Mahesh Panicker
in fact, it would be great if people could write on the list itself.
I've created an account on facebook, but I have found it dificult to
use, social networking sites like orkut and twitter are much more
accessible than facebook in my experience.

On 4/29/10, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I know that  a number of our members are quite active on Face Book. Are
 there convenient and quick ways of working with Face Book using Jaws? You
 could write to me off the list with your experiences and advice.

 Thanks and regards,

 George
 George Abraham
 CEO
 Score Foundation
 17/107, Basement,
 Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
 New Delhi 110024
 India
 Ph: 91 11 26472581
 Telefax: 91 11 26472582
 Mob: 91 9810934040/91 9810001181
 Email: geo...@eyeway.org
 Website: www.eyeway.org
 Skype: georgeabraham13
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Re: [AI] Gmail accessible with jaws

2010-04-22 Thread Mahesh Panicker
with the versions of Jaws beyond 9, even the standard view is very
much accessible. but crome is another matter, its just not accessible
at all. forget Gmail, you can do other than typing the address on the
address bar for any site for that matter.
in fact, we should try and do something about, as Crome is really
fast. I have been using to use youtube's live streaming of IPL
matches. have to say its much better than IE when it comes to
streaming. so more prressure on google may be a good idea on our part.

On 4/22/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 chrome is not accesible with screen readers and henceforth I am afraid
 that you will have to be content with IE.

 Vetri.

 On 22/04/2010, Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in wrote:
  Certainly. Particularly if used in basic HTML' mode. Pl check yourself
  on the browser and you shall find it.
 
  Subramani
 
  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kiran S
  Deshpande
  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:44 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: [AI] Gmail accessible with jaws
 
  Hi All,
 
  I would like to know from members if Gmail is accessible in the web
  browser
  like chrome or the Internet explorer, and does jaws supports its
  functionalities of for that matter any web based email.. i am sure that
  the
  screen readers have a support to the pop mails through the outlook
  express.
  your guidance shall be helpful
 
  --
  Kind Regards,
 
  Kiran S Deshpande.
 
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Re: [AI] Fw: Great offer: Get your mini laptop at just Rs. 11500

2010-03-28 Thread Mahesh Panicker
On 3/28/10, Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in wrote:
 DFI memberin Mumbai is XRCVC.

 Subramani



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ABHISHEK
 THAKUR
 Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 2:35 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Great offer: Get your mini laptop at just Rs.
 11500

 Dear sir,
 I'm Abhishek Thakur currently pursuing  masters in social work from
 Tata Institute of Social Sciences Mumbai, wanted to apply for this
 offer. But I have no idea about the DAISY Forum of India in Mumbai.
 And I also wanted to know that if I will pay the required amount to
 nearest DFI center,  so do I need to come Delhi to collect net book?
 Thanking you.



 On 3/28/10, Prashant Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Apologies for cross postings. Just want to make sure that our student
  friends in accessindia get to know about this great opportunity.
 
   --
  From: Prashant Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 6:44 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: [AI] Great offer: Netbook at a special price
 
 
 
  Dear Friends,
 
 
 
  Here comes the great offer due to efforts of Mr. Dipendra Manocha and
  Saksham.
 
 
 
  We have been able to finalise the purchase of Samsung N150 Netbook
 for a
  special scheme for University Students with blindness or low vision.
 
 
 
  The Netbook is being purchased at the cost of Rs. 16500.
 
 
  This Netbook has: Atom 450 processor, 10 inch screen, 8and half hour
  battery
  back-up, USB, Blue Tooth Wi-Fi, LAN port, VGA port.
  1 GB RAM and 160 GB of HDD. It also has webcam. The Netbook claims to
 be
  3g
  and GPS enabled. (not a sim card slot but will be able to handle 3g
  connectivity). It does have card reader also.
  You can read a review at
  http://www.mybestlaptop.org/samsung-n150-review.html
 
 
 
  After providing 5000 rupees subsidy, the Netbook will be available to
 the
  students at the cost of Rs. 11500.
 
 
 
  We will load the computers with various utilities like the NVDA and
 SAFA
  screen reading software, Web IE configured for Hindu news paper links
 and
  suitable configurations for persons with vision impairments.
 
 
 
  The computers will be delivered in New Delhi thus there would be
 shipping
  cost in addition to the cost of the machine.
 
 
 
  How to order:
 
 
 
  The application form for this offer can be downloaded from this link
  http://www.sendspace.com/file/e92c8y  or requested from Saksham.
 
 
 
  The Netbook will be  distributed through DFI member organisations
 only.
  You can locate the nearest DAISY Forum of India member on the DFI
 website
  at  http://www.daisyindia.org/03membersList.htm
 
 
 
  Member organisations may please fill up the forms of their
 beneficiaries
  and collect the payments of 11500 from them. This payment will need
 to be
  sent to Saksham Trust.
 
 
 
  The offer is going to be on first come first serve basis.
 
 
 
  This offer comes due to the kind contribution from I F C I.
 
 
 
  When you fill up the forms, we would need  disability certificates
 and
  proof
  of their being in the in University or any diploma, graduation or
 post
  graduation or higher education programme such as the valid ID card.
 
 
 
  We are  looking at closing collection of orders within one week.
 
  So please  hurry and help in completing this exercise without
 troubles.
 
 
 
  For more information please contact DFI members and Saksham staff
 using
  the following contact details.
 
  Email: i...@saksham.org
 
  Ph: 011 42411015
 
 
 
  Personally, I think that the Netbook is a great device and can serve
 all
  the reading and writing needs of any individual. I have purchased
 this
  Netbook few months earlier and I am in love with the portability and
  independence it offers. So, I suggest you grab this offer before it
 ends.
  Remember that the subsidy is for a limited number of Netbook and it
 will
  not be available at this price after the scheme ends.
 
 
 
  Thanks and regards
 
  Prashant Ranjan verma
 
 
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Re: [AI] about google talk messenger.

2010-01-16 Thread Mahesh Panicker
has Mr. Aruni Sharma's skripts for google talk been updated? does it
work with jaws 10 and after in windows vista? it does work with my
windows XP, but is not completely functional with vista. I think I am
using  an older version of the scripts, but was told that there are no
updates available.
more information please?


On 1/16/10, Vijay Kumar P.V.S. vijay.palakod...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Usuf:

 After extracting the scripts you will find 11 files. Now copy all the
 files and paste these in to programmes/Jaws/Explore Jaws
 submenu/Explore my settings/Enu and you are done.

 Please contact me off the list for any assistance.

 With warm regards
 VIJAY


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Re: [AI] Visually-impaired running for ATM card for 3 yrs

2009-12-10 Thread Mahesh Panicker
On 12/9/09, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 I, as someone who had quite a terrible time with the PNB people on a
 similara issue can say that PNB is the most dificult when it comes to
 ATMs and other facilities for the disabled. I work at LSR college
 Lajpat Nagar, and I was denied ATM by the Grater Kailash branch of
 PNB. after a struggle of more than 7 months, and after the
 intervension of RBI authorities, I had to give an undertaking and then
 only I got the ATM.
 I can understand the attitude of the PNB people very well, and I
 strongly suggest taking these people to the judiciary. if my testimony
 can be of any help, and I am more than willing.

 On 12/8/09, SC Vashishth subhashvashis...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thank. You gave me an important point of argument!
 
  2009/12/8 Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 
   Dear Vashishth Jee
   RBI consolidated the circular regarding banking facilities to VI in its
   master circular on customer service on July 1, 2009, and I am not sure as 
   to
   its inclusion in earlier master circular of July 2008.
   The master circular has to be kept at all branches and ignorance of PNB
   officials is most objectionable.
  
  
   Regards
  
   Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God--
   but to create Him.
  
  --Arthur C. Clarke
  
   Rajesh Asudani
  
   Assistant General Manager,
   Reserve Bank of India
   Nagpur
   09420397185
   O: 0712 2806676
   Res: 0712 2591349
  
  
  
 
 
 
  --
  Warm regards,
 
  Subhash Chandra Vashishth
  Mobile: +91 (11) 9811125521
  Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Consider
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Re: [AI] Visually-impaired running for ATM card for 3 yrs

2009-12-09 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I, as someone who had quite a terrible time with the PNB people on a
similara issue can say that PNB is the most dificult when it comes to
ATMs and other facilities for the disabled. I work at LSR college
Lajpat Nagar, and I was denied ATM by the Grater Kailash branch of
PNB. after a struggle of more than 7 months, and after the
intervension of RBI authorities, I had to give an undertaking and then
only I got the ATM.
I can understand the attitude of the PNB people very well, and I
strongly suggest taking these people to the judiciary. if my testimony
can be of any help, and I am more than willing.

On 12/8/09, SC Vashishth subhashvashis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank. You gave me an important point of argument!

 2009/12/8 Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

  Dear Vashishth Jee
  RBI consolidated the circular regarding banking facilities to VI in its
  master circular on customer service on July 1, 2009, and I am not sure as to
  its inclusion in earlier master circular of July 2008.
  The master circular has to be kept at all branches and ignorance of PNB
  officials is most objectionable.
 
 
  Regards
 
  Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God--
  but to create Him.
 
 --Arthur C. Clarke
 
  Rajesh Asudani
 
  Assistant General Manager,
  Reserve Bank of India
  Nagpur
  09420397185
  O: 0712 2806676
  Res: 0712 2591349
 
 
 



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 Warm regards,

 Subhash Chandra Vashishth
 Mobile: +91 (11) 9811125521
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[AI] problem with real player

2009-11-09 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hello AI friends.
I am facing a problem with real player.the key commands control left and
control right which should take things back and forth, is not working. when
I press control right, jaws says fast forward, however the movement does not
take place.
is it an issue with the settings? I am using windows vista and jaws 10. also
the latest free version of real player.
looking forward to your suggestions.
thanks in advance,


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[AI] touch pad not working on laptop.

2009-10-22 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list.
I am facing a problem with the touch pad in my acer laptop. although
everything else with the system works absolutely fine, there is some problem
with the mouse pad. it is not working. my o s is vista home premium.
looking forward. regards,


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Re: [AI] distributing books

2009-10-09 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I think although Dinesh tried to answer some of the issues I put forward, I
haven't got anything to justify publishers or libraries including those of
centrel universities like Jawaharlal Nehru University, not providing EBooks
to disabled, even though the books are available to non-disabled students.
and although there are sites like
questia.com
even those are expensive, and books are not available in portable formats,
and you need net connection to read them, as only online reading is
possible. if you need academic Ebooks, from publishers like sage or
routledge, their sites charge you very high indeed.
and if you are buying books, you have to put in additional unpaied labour of
scanning them.
so being at the wrong end of all these discrimination, I don't see any moral
obligation to submit to discriminating laws. what Gandhi asked was not to
submit to immoral laws, not using means that are based on arms. in scanning
and distributing scanned book, there is no use of arms.


On 10/9/09, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 So dinesh,
 You are essentially saying that:
 1. We should do our book related transactions through organizations of and
 for blind like NAB which can provide e text and daisy books to legally
 disabled persons on request.
 2. refrain from publicly ask for books or post their availability
 notifications in fora of blind/disabled like AI Bookbole as it would entail
 their destruction sooner or later, and may make a book available to a
 non-disabled person.


 Now, here, what even such organizations are doing is nothing but violation
 of copyrights, till the law is amended at least.
 Making a fundamental right an exclusively  institutionalized and secretive
 act, in my opinion, is cowardly and oversubmissive.
 I truly appreciate bookbole for their courage and openness.
 World, according to me, operates on extremely surfacical  grounds and
 superfluous way.
 Authors and publishers are not at all going to feel the need for making the
 materials accessible until they feel a pinch in their pockets by mass
 distributions of their copyrighted works amongst the disabled.
 Anyway piracy is not highly uncommon even for general masses, so heavens
 are not going to fall if a few deserving disabled benefit.
 Besides, my earlier argument about widening the reach of books to
 individuals who otherwise would never have got a chance to appreciate them,
 remains to be answered by anybody.
 Besides, there is no justification of copyright or non-availability about
 educational books in accessible format to all.
 UNCRPD talks of access to cultural material and IPR not being a barrier to
 it.
 So, what are books but manifestations of cultural conscious?
 Exclusively Institutionalizing a basic need and right for the fear that its
 open manifestation would entail legal proceedings does not appeal to me.
 There was a time when living of blind/disabled and their pursuits of
 activity in general community were regarded dangerous and taxing resources
 too much. So, they were institutionalized as individuals fit for living only
 in institutions.
 What is wrong in that?
 Now, it is felt that books etc. should be provided secretly to disabled by
 their institutions as we are here for profit earnings and if we concede to
 demands of few persons with disabilities it would be too expensive and why
 bother about inferior minorities?

 So let the business of publishing flourish unabated without being open to
 widen its prospects of catering to wider but different audience, and let the
 disabled crave for even the basic of their needs and rights by forming
 organizations who do the same illegal thing but secretly.
 Let us bring it out in the open and strongly demand that right to read is
 the part and parcel of freedom of speech and expression and its illegitimate
 denial constitutes gross violation of our fundamental rights. Adequate
 safeguards can be envisaged once the right is recognized and accessibility
 is taken into account.
 We have been cowards all these years, fearing even to distribute even
 educational and informational content.
 Tagore had said:

 Let my country awaken into heaven,
 where every one holds their head high,
 Where knowledge is free..

 And let me add: Accessible.

 Lending names may not lend credibility to any cause, but it is more than
 sufficient if one person, say, Rajesh Asudani, thinks in a particular way.
 I am not bound by dead past and great names.
 And, yes, I am not willing to tolerate any comparisons of blind community
 to blood-thirsty acts, the person concerned has not withdrawn it still.
 I am pained as a person who is blind and who is willing to openly advocate
 rights of persons with disabilities and who is willing to put up a fight
 with so called intellectuals who would not budge until their monetary
 interests are impinged upon.
 The fact that by sharing a book amongst disabled, it may be available to a
 non-disabled person, is a bi-product and side effect and a 

Re: [AI] New Book: Shadows Across the Playing Field

2009-10-08 Thread Mahesh Panicker
the question here is about accessiblity, available and affordability. very
few publishers come out with electronic editions of their publications. even
those who do, do it at a very high cost, that is often 10 times of the hard
copies. not many major libraries, including that of universites have their
books available in e format. while nondisabled students get the chance to
read thing easily and freely, the visually challenged are deprived. in this
case, our impairment deprive us of reading and understanding. scanning is a
dificult task, involving lot more investment of time unlike buying the hard
copy and reading.
you don't need to Naxels. Gandhi has said that you should not submit to laws
that atr not moral. depriving me because I am impairment is immoral, and I
don't care about any such laws.
regards.



On 10/8/09, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Well, I think, if there is practical apprehension of getting apprehended,
 then it should be banned otherwise not.
 Be it books or software.
 However, I think, stakes of legal action are more in case of software than
 books.


 Rajesh Asudani

 Assistant General Manager (PPS),
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349
 Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?
 John Milton


 -Original Message-
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 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal
 Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:49 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] New Book: Shadows Across the Playing Field

 By that rule discussion about cracked software should also be allowed.


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 Are we all acting Parliamentarians here discussing promulgation  violation
 of law  legalities?  I understand we are here to read  share.  Let's
 leave
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 principled here so much so that it deprives us the essentials of
 practicalities.  Also let anybody other than VI community raise the issue.


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Re: [AI] New Book: Shadows Across the Playing Field

2009-10-08 Thread Mahesh Panicker
the issue of software is a touch diferent. softwares are expensive, but that
is the case for all individuals. as disabled, there is no additional
discrimination against us. there is no question of discrimination. although
in saying this, one has to also see that the quality screen reades are quite
expensive, and only people with accessibility needs have to use them.

On 10/8/09, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:

 the question here is about accessiblity, available and affordability. very
 few publishers come out with electronic editions of their publications. even
 those who do, do it at a very high cost, that is often 10 times of the hard
 copies. not many major libraries, including that of universites have their
 books available in e format. while nondisabled students get the chance to
 read thing easily and freely, the visually challenged are deprived. in this
 case, our impairment deprive us of reading and understanding. scanning is a
 dificult task, involving lot more investment of time unlike buying the hard
 copy and reading.
 you don't need to Naxels. Gandhi has said that you should not submit to
 laws that atr not moral. depriving me because I am impairment is immoral,
 and I don't care about any such laws.
 regards.



 On 10/8/09, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Well, I think, if there is practical apprehension of getting apprehended,
 then it should be banned otherwise not.
 Be it books or software.
 However, I think, stakes of legal action are more in case of software than
 books.


 Rajesh Asudani

 Assistant General Manager (PPS),
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349
 Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?
 John Milton


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal
 Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:49 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] New Book: Shadows Across the Playing Field

 By that rule discussion about cracked software should also be allowed.


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 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of YADAV, D. N
 Sent: 08 October 2009 05:07 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] New Book: Shadows Across the Playing Field

 Are we all acting Parliamentarians here discussing promulgation 
 violation
 of law  legalities?  I understand we are here to read  share.  Let's
 leave
 anything else regarding copyright laws to law-makers.  Let's not be highly
 principled here so much so that it deprives us the essentials of
 practicalities.  Also let anybody other than VI community raise the issue.


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[AI] backing up laptop.

2009-08-25 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list.
I have a laptop system with windows vista original loaded. however I don't
have a back of windows.
can someone give me step by step instructions to back my windows please?
thanks in advance.

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Re: [AI] Staying connected internationally, on the cheap

2009-03-29 Thread Mahesh Panicker
is anyone using the Skypeout Service? what are the rates for STD calls
within India? is there a way to buy Skypecards without using creditcards?
I had checked the Skype website, but could not find much information in the
Indian context.


On 3/29/09, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Staying connected internationally, on the cheap
 Posted: 2009-03-29 23:53:18+05:30 IST
 Updated: Mar 29, 2009 at 2353 hrs IST


 : Looking for a system that not only lets you make inexpensive local calls
 but also allows friends and family back home to reach you cheaply. Here's a
 way:

 . The first thing you'll need is an unlocked mobile phone - that is, a
 phone that's not tied to one particular carrier. (In the US, some carriers
 will unlock your phone if you ask; abroad, most phones come already
 unlocked.) Then, whenever you arrive in a new country, you can buy a local
 SIM card (the tiny, interchangeable chip inside the phone that actually lets
 you connect to a particular carrier; they're sold at mobile phone stores and
 kiosks for $2 to $25, depending on the country) and make phone calls and
 send text messages without paying exorbitant international roaming fees.

 .Simple enough. But for folks back home to reach you, you'll need Skype. In
 the last few years, Skype has revolutionised how global nomads keep in
 touch. Install its software on your Mac or PC, and as long as you've got an
 internet connection, you can make high-quality audio and video calls to
 other Skype users almost anywhere on earth. (A few countries, like the UAE,
 unfortunately block the service.)

 .Skype, however, also lets you call out to mobile phones and land lines (a
 service called SkypeOut) and enables you to have your own phone number in
 any of 23 countries, including the US, Hong Kong, France and Italy (this is
 called SkypeIn).

 .Both SkypeOut and SkypeIn carry a relatively low fee. SkypeOut calls to
 land lines can be as little as 2 cents a minute, while calls to mobile
 phones are usually a bit more. A SkypeIn subscription, meanwhile, costs $60
 a year or $18 for three months. All you have to do before leaving home is to
 set your American cellphone (an older-generation iPhone) to forward to your
 SkypeIn number, and all you have to do when you arrive in a new country is
 get a SIM card, go online and set the Skype software's preferences to
 forward all calls to the new number. Here's how it works. The caller dials
 your regular number which is forwarded to your SkypeIn number, which, in
 turn, forwarded (via SkypeOut) to your international cellphone number.

 .Unfortunately, Skype does not exist for the iPhone. Instead, you can use a
 free third-party application called Fring, which functions as a kind of
 Skype-to-cellphone phone gateway, letting you access your Skype account
 wherever you have a Wi-Fi signal. (Fring also works on many other
 smartphones, and lets you connect to a host of other internet communications
 services, like AIM, MSN Messenger, Twitter and Last.fm.) Just open a Fring
 account, give Fring your Skype account details, and you're set to make
 SkypeOut calls to anyone you wish.

 .Two weeks ago, Google announced a new service called Google Voice that
 operates much like Skype - only cheaper! Google says the service will be
 open at first only to users of GrandCentral (a startup Google bought almost
 two years ago); it will be available to the general public in a few weeks.

 NY Times


 http://www.financialexpress.com/news/staying-connected-internationally-on-the-cheap/440275/0

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Re: [AI] For BSNL broadband users

2009-03-22 Thread Mahesh Panicker
has MTNL also replicated this interesting package? or is it only available
for BSNL? MTNL has a dificult interface if you want to check your usage, and
I am not able to fully understand it as yet.
regards.


On 3/22/09, ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Access Indians,

 Here is a piece of information for the BSNL broadband users. So far, I
 found it difficult to know the usage of our account. I could manage it at
 last, but now the government company has launched a free service which will
 inform us the usage of our account for the current month.

 To utilize this service, we need to have a BSNL SIM card in our mobile
 phone. First, we have to type

 USE + area code number + our landline phone number. For example, to know
 about the usage in my account, I would write:

 USE 02849 242233

 in the message body and send the message to 51050. Within five minutes, we
 receive the message informing us our usage for this month.

 Please utilize this service and enjoy.

 With best regards.


 - - -
 Ashik Hirani
 Landline phone: 02849-242233
 I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace.


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Re: [AI] query from thahir

2009-03-13 Thread Mahesh Panicker
a highly controversial question indeed.
as expected there are people with different views on the matter. I believe
the question as such does come broadly under issues of accessibility.
I can understand the arguements against this on the basis of too much of
things for the list to handil and therefor the possibility of losing focus.
but culture, Indian culture, well that is all together a different issue.
ones morality, values are all shaped in the context in which one is brought
up. that is different for different people. but the moment one says that his
or her values are higher than that of some one else, then that is big
trouble. in fact, that is the language of fascism. I certainly don't think
access India is the forum for moral policing by any means. anybody have the
freedom to access or not access pornographic materials, but I believe any
questions on the matter should not be restricted on the basis of a culture
based arguement, as that might end up supporting those elemends in the
society, who are against tolerence and inclusivity. olso one must remember
in this context, 'Kamasutra' was not authered by an American or a Europian,
but by Vatsyayana, the great Indian sage.
so on the basis of focus OK, but please, not that cultural thing.


On 3/13/09, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote:

 Hi all
 Yes, there are 2 groups on yahoogroups which may allow discussion of
 romance and sexuality.

 Regarding outright porn talk, you may have to seek clarification from the
 respective moderator.
 The 2 lists which I am  refering are:
 1 dreamromance
 2 sayeverything

 There would be more lists internationally and one can make a search on
 Yahoogroups orat google.
 .


 I have followed the points from other members both for and against.

 However, I am not convinced why should AccessIndia take it up when there
 are other active groups catering to this requirement or so called need.

 Delibrate folks, rationally and don't get personal. I opened this thread
 for healthy discussion and not to settle scores.

 Harish

 - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir


 i am glad, we can talk on this matter, i fully support Rajesh's view.
 Harish are there such email groups? if yes, please Harish or members share
 them.
 At 07:54 AM 3/13/2009, you wrote:

 Dear Rajesh and others

 Do appreciate the points raised, However, let us have the group focused
 and on rails.

 Besides there are groups especially catering this requirement. So, let us
 not tred on their shoes.

 I am opening the thread for inputs from all quarters.

 Harish.

 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:06 +0530
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir
 Well, I think being a member of this group for so many years, I do have a
 certain right to say something on this matter, despite the closure of
 threat.
 I think the question does relate to accessibility and internet for
 visually impaired, and as such, may be legitimately construed to be within
 bounds of the group, but for the fact that pornography or any sexually
 colored material is illegal in India and so the group may not discuss
 anything illegal.
 However, please remember that law does change with mores of society and
 what is a taboo today is a common sense of tomorrow.
 Moreover, binding accessibility to legality is unfair, me thinks.
 Sight does not regard the bounds of legality or otherwise.
 Life with its joys and enchantments ought to be equally available to all,
 is the hallmark of accessibility.
 And Shadab, the ones whom you have, without any moderatorial
 jurisdiction, publicly termed raunchy, are the respected members of
 community, working and teaching in reputed institutions.
 A person does not become antisocial merely by recognizing inherent needs
 of all human kind.
 rather it is undu suppression and repression of the same which renders
 humans brute many a times.
 Only objection to the query in the message is manifest illegality of the
 pornography in India, but the effort about universality of accessibility is
 commendable.
 On this note, I  would like to share that the movie Dev D is said to have
 bypassed censors by substituting sexually explicit scenes with dialogue
 which is less appealing to sight but more appealing I think to listeners
 like us. Maybe, the director, though not consciously thinking about
 accessibility, has achieved the aim partially at least.
 I intend to watch it shortly and call upon all the visually impaired to
 do so to get an experience. of the movie. Otherwise, so prudish are we the
 Indians, that even video described movies like Black, we shun to describe
 scenes involving expressions of love, kissing, for instance, even though
 such scenes form the essence of the movie and are inextricably linked to its
 theme.
 As a result, we the visually impaired, are far lagging behind in
 

Re: [AI] Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and Evolvingdirections'

2009-03-02 Thread Mahesh Panicker
 want to work if, other than your vision, your
 other bodily parts are working well?  We've to accept it as a fact that
 blind are not disabled but have some limitations.  We have the handibuses
 that come and pick you up and drop you in your doorway.  So, what are the
 reasons that a blind person won't want to work?  After all, all that
 technology was totally paid for if not just subsidized.  And, in the end
 you
 end up making more money than what the government was paying you.
 Amarjit

 - Original Message -
 From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI]
 Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and
 Evolvingdirections'


 But usually lobbiests are very strong in your country isn't it? Then why
 didn't they step in to protest against the Alberta government?

 Subramani



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
 Powar
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:39 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Two-dayNational
 Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and
 Evolvingdirections'

 Hi  Harish bhai,
 Technically speaking, we do not have the term as handicapped in Canada
 anymore.  It  was long fazed-out because it had a  negative conotation
 and
 was replaced by the more user-friendly term as disabled.  It encompasses
 all
 sorts of disabilities and physical disabilities but excludes visual
 disability or blindness.  We  are disabled here if we have a  physical
 disability.  and visually disabled or visually disadvantaged when we
 define
 ourselves as visually unfit.  However, the blind are not considered
 disabled
 as the advancements in technology has made them more independent.
 Consequently, the blind are not considered as disabled.
  Amarjit

 - Original Message -
 From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National
 Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and
 Evolvingdirections'


 Hi Amarjit
 I suppose you are refering to handicap and not disability. I do stand

 by

 my statement as disability refers to in this context non functionality

 of

 a sense organ. I am not refering to a dictionary definition.
 Harish.

 - Original Message -
 From: Amarjit Powar po...@shaw.ca
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National
 Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and
 Evolvingdirections'


 Hello Harish bhai,
 Something related or perhaps unrelated to your statement of below.
 Blindness in Alberta, Canada, is not, yes, not considered a

 disability

 anymore since the late mid 90's for applying for disability pensions.


  The government says that blindness is just a  nuisance and not a
 disability as such.  The blind, as we all know it today and even
 considering
 majority of AccessIndians , can very well function in office-related

 jobs

 using modern software e.g. TTS, OCRs etc.  One can perform clerical,
 accounting, programming, etc. etc. jobs using these technologies.  I
 recall that the Albertan Government had removed some 1200 or 1800

 blind

 people from its disability payroll and got them enrolled in call

 centre

 jobs in the late mid 90s when JAWS gained more popularity and the
 government started subsidizing its purchase. So, we have to be
 politically correct as to who is a  disabled and what disability

 means.

Sorry as this does not matter much to AccessIndians, but just


  wanted to add my two cents worth.
 Amarjit
 Calgary, Alberta, Canada
  - Original Message -
 From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference
 on'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving

 directions'



 Hello Vidya

 Isn't blindness a disablility? I guess, this is a first conference

 in a

  series of it. Maybe in the future, they shall have greater
 representation from other disabilities. In any case they too should

 be

  getting a right place in terms of accomodation at the univercities.

 Finally, they too should take a lead to seek appropriate

 accomodation.


 Harish
 - Original Message -
 From: Vidya joshvi...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on
 'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'


 I think you guys should have used the term blindness rather than
 disability. I fail to see other disabilities being represented

 here.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday

Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 'Disability and Disenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'

2009-02-28 Thread Mahesh Panicker
 policy Dr.
 Vinod, Teaching Faculty at the Department of  Psychology, Lady Sriram
 College, University of Delhi.



 DISABILITY, EDUCATION AND CAREER

 2nd March (1:45 PM to 3:30 PM) at SSS1 Committee Room JNU Campus.

 Officiating Chair: Prof. Abijit Patak, Center for the study of Social
 systems, School of Social Sciences, JNU.

 Titles and Presenters

 1)  Curriculum Development for Higher Education in Disability Studies
 and Action Co-authored by: Dr. Srilata Juvva Head of The Department,
 Disability Studies and Dr. Kalyani Talvelkar, Tata Institute of Social
 Sciences, Mumbai;

 2)   Career and Capability: Opportunities for Persons with
 disabilities Shanti raghavan, Managing Director and Trustee, Enable India
 foundation, Bangalore; and

 3)   Disability and higher education Dr. Gangatharan, Teaching faculty
 at the History Department, Banaras Hindu University, banaras.



 THEORISING DISABILITY

 3rd March (9:30 AM to 11:15 AM) at SSS1 Committee Room.)

 Officiating Chair: Prof. Gautam, Vice-chancellor, Bhareli University;

 Titles and Presenters

 1) Beyond Medical Dogmatism and ConstructivistOrthodoxy: Capability
 Framework for Understanding Disability S. Mahesh Panicker,  Young Scholar
 and Teaching Faculty, Lady Sriram College, University of delhi;

 2) Stigma and Social Disability Dr. Krishna Svami Dara, Teaching Faculty,
 Jamia Milya University, Delhi;

 3) DISABILITY, STIGMATISATION AND SOCIAL EXCLUSION: INSIGHTS FROM INDIA
 Dr. Rambabu, Teaching Faculty, Tata Institute of Social Sciences, Mumbai;
 and

 4) The Metaphysics of Body: implications for Discourse on Disability Prof.
 Gopal Guru, Teaching faculty, Center for Political studies, School of Social
 sciences, JNU.



 DISABILITY,  GENDER AND CIVIL SOCIETY

 Officiating Chair: Prof. Janiki Abraham, Chairperson, Center for women
 studies, School of Social sciences, JNU.

 Titles and Presenters

 1) DUAL BURDEN OF GENDER AND ABLEISM IN THE LIVES OF WOMEN WITH (VISUAL)
 DISABILITIES IN INDIA Dr. Renu Addlakha, Senior Fellow, Center for women's
 Development studies, Delhi;

 2) Disability and Gender: a Constructive Approach Dr. Anita Ghai, teaching
 faculty, Jesus and Mary College, University of Delhi;

 Women and Disability Preeti Monga, Director, Silver linings;

 4) Dissident bodies, demystified nations: a post-colonial reading of
 disability in the novels of Tony Morrison Dr. Navnit Shethi, Associate
 Professor, Center for English Studies, School of Language,
 LiteratureCulture studies, JNU;



 EQUALITY, ACCESSIBILITY AND TECHNOLOGY

 3rd March (2:00 PM to 3:45 PM) at SSS1 Committee Room.

 Officiating Chair: Prof. Anand kumar, Center for The study of Social
 Systems, School of Social Sciences, JNU;

 Titles and Presenters

 1) Copyright  Print Access - Response  Challenge: A Higher Education
 Case Study Dr. Sam Taraporevala, Head of the Department of Sociology, St.
 Xaviers College, University of Mumbai and The Director, Xaviers Resource
 Center for Visually-challenged;

 2) Times They are Changing George Abraham, Chief Executive Officer, Score
 foundation and founding patron of the Indian Cricket Board for
 Visually-challenged; 3) Continued relevance of Braille in India and other
 developing countries Prof. A.K. Mittal, President, All India Confederation
 of The Blind, and Treasurer, World Blind Union; and

 4) Equality through e-Quality: Importance of Technology and Accessibility
 for the Creation of an Equalizing Environment Harish Kotian, Assistant
 General manager, Reserve Bank of India, Mumbai.



 PANEL DISCUSSION

 3rd March (4:00 PM to 5:00 PM) at SSS1 Committee Room.

 Moderator: Sri; Vivek Sahai, General manager, Northern Railways.

 Discussants include: Chief Commissionor, Office of Persons with
 disabilities, Chairperson, National Trust for the Welfare of Persons with
 Autism, Cerebral Palsy, Mental Retardation and Multiple Disabilities, and
 representatives from the office of Union public service Commission, Ministry
 of Social Justice and Empowerment, Ministry of Human resource development
 and Ministry of Women and Child Development.


 Looking forward for your estemed presence!

 Mr. Annavaram Along with the Organising Team!


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Re: [AI] Two-day National Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolvingdirections'

2009-02-28 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Hi Vidya and others.
I don't think I can agree with your view of the seminar being only concerned
with the visually challenged. if you go through the schedule, you can see
that other than the last session, no other session is VC spesific. this is a
seminar where we are thinking of bringing together, the activist  and the
policy maker maker, with the larger academic community. there has to be a
better linkage between policy and theory. in the field of
higher education, disability as such has not been theorized enough, and that
is reflected in the policy making process.
this national seminar is jointly organized by the office of equal
opportunities; JNU, and the JNU visually challenged forum. therefore there
will be some emphasis on the visually challenged, but in the larger scheme
this is a seminar on disability in general, not on the visually challenged.
we hope to see AI members in good numbers, at least those people in around
Delhi.


On 3/1/09, Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.de wrote:

 That is an interesting approach. Governments across Europe and the United
 States should adopt the same policy in order to save tax payers' dollars. In
 this age of opportunism and indolence, the 'each according to his ability
 and each according to his need' philosophy is no longer relevant.

 Geetha
 - Original Message - From: Amarjit Powar po...@shaw.ca
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National
 Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and
 Evolvingdirections'


 Hello Harish bhai,
 Something related or perhaps unrelated to your statement of below.
 Blindness in Alberta, Canada, is not, yes, not considered a  disability
 anymore since the late mid 90's for applying for disability pensions.  The
 government says that blindness is just a  nuisance and not a disability as
 such.  The blind, as we all know it today and even considering
 majority of AccessIndians , can very well function in office-related jobs
 using modern software e.g. TTS, OCRs etc.  One can perform clerical,
 accounting, programming, etc. etc. jobs using these technologies.  I recall
 that the Albertan Government had removed some 1200 or 1800 blind people from
 its disability payroll and got them enrolled in call centre jobs in the late
 mid 90s when JAWS gained more popularity and the government started
 subsidizing its purchase. So, we have to be politically correct as to who is
 a  disabled and what disability means.
Sorry as this does not matter much to AccessIndians, but just
 wanted to add my two cents worth.
 Amarjit
 Calgary, Alberta, Canada
  - Original Message - From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference
 on'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'


 Hello Vidya

 Isn't blindness a disablility? I guess, this is a first conference in a
 series of it. Maybe in the future, they shall have greater representation
 from other disabilities. In any case they too should be getting a right
 place in terms of accomodation at the univercities.

 Finally, they too should take a lead to seek appropriate accomodation.

 Harish
 - Original Message - From: Vidya joshvi...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on
 'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'


 I think you guys should have used the term blindness rather than
 disability. I fail to see other disabilities being represented here.


 - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker 
 maheshspanic...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 'Disability
 andDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'


 Hi list.
 we, JNU visually challenged forum did indeed wanted to give out the
 invite
 earlier, but since it is a national seminar organized at the level of
 an
 institution like JNU, it took us lot more time to put things in place.
 hope you understand and appriciate thesituation. we at least those
 people
 who are based in Delhi can make it to the seminar.
 your participation is most valued.
 with best regards.


 On 2/28/09, Amit Bhatt misterbh...@gmail.com wrote:


 Sounds good, it seems to be a great conference in order to focus on
 the new
 challenges and explore some innovative ideas and directions in our
 education
 in the Country.
 Thank you for showing the huge guts of keeping open invitation for the
 members to join the event. Only the thing is that it should have been
 informed little earlier since many people would always like to be
 benefited
 by such valuable workshops to be organized. Anyway its a good
 opportunity
 and I shall endeavor to attend the program either of the days.

 Warm regards

[AI] free antivirous for Mobile phone?

2009-02-21 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list.
I am using a Nokia N70 handset with talks.
I would like to know if there are any free good antivirous that I can
install in my phone?
regards.

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[AI] Jaws and .djvu file extension?

2009-02-21 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list.
I have got an ebook in the .djvu format. is this file format accessible with
Jaws? is there some way to convert it into text or html files?
regards.

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[AI] google talk script and jaws 10.

2009-01-04 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list.
I have started using the latest version of Jaws.
how I am facing a problem, with google talk. the scripts for the program is
not fully functional. some of the comands are not working. like for eg,
alte1 is not speaking the last mesage as it used to do with the previous
version. I am using GTalk script version 2.
how can I address this problem? waiting for your suggestions.
regards.

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Re: [AI] any information about ebooks from bookshare?

2008-12-16 Thread Mahesh Panicker
can soneone please give me the contacts of the Saksham trust?
also I would like to know if all the books available with bookshare are
available for download ones we subscribe?
regards.


On 12/17/08, Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can't we simply download books in Word or Text format and access it
 with Jaws? Why do we need the Bookshare Unpack Tool?

 Regards.

 On 12/16/08, B. Kannan kannan...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hai prateek,
 
  I have joined as a member in book share.  It is very useful in my
 opinion.
  Many copyright books are available written by international and indian
  authors. you can join as a member by producing attested copy of your
  disability certificate and paying rs.400/- as anual subscription.  the
  bookshare will give you password to download their books. you have to
  download and install bookshare unpack tool and victor reader daisy
 reading
  software from the bookshare website to read the downloaded books.
 
  Kannan.
  Mobile +9144-9444049216
  email : kannan...@gmail.com
 
  .
  - Original Message -
  From: prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:15 PM
  Subject: [AI] any information about ebooks from bookshare?
 
 
  folks,
  if i remember correctly, few months back we've been told that
  bookshare will provide accessible books to VI people in a yearly fee
  of rs. 400.
  it was said that xrcvc from mumbai, saksham trust from delhi, and some
  other reasonal NGOs will take on the operation.
  i just wanted to know that how can one opt for that?
  moreover, please give your feedback if somebody is already using the
 same.
  regards,
  prateek agarwal
  cell: 09928341197
  skype:
  prateek_agarwal32
  e-mail:
  prateekagarwa...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] Way Finder is really useful!

2008-11-28 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I would like to get some more details about this program.
does it work with N70 music edition? how expensive it is? is it possible to
get some training on the use of the program?
thangs in advance.



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 Hello sir, is nokia N72 compateble with the way finder

 On 11/28/08, Prashant Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
  I have been using Way Finder recently  have found it to be very
 effective 
  useful.
  My conclusion is that one needs to understand the behaviour of the
 software
   then it can be used very well. I had to go to a hotel  then to the
 World
  Bank office  I relied on this software. I searched for the hotel name 
 it
  was the first result. It guided me to the place precisely  going to the
  world Bank office was also very easy.
  Besides it gives you so much information about the locations around you
 that
  you will learn much more from this about your city as compared to any
  source.
  If anybody is contemplating to get way finder, my advice is that you
 should
  go ahead.
 
  Prashant Verma
 
 
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[AI] N70 M and Talks.

2008-11-25 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list. I am using talks with N70 music edition.
I would like to know if we can make the talks work when one is on a call, or
on the FM or any other application. now in my handset the talks doesn't work
on such situation. is there  a way around this?
regards.

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[AI] accessibility of Open Office.org??

2008-11-18 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list.
I have installed open office.org program on my system recently. I have found
it to be interesting as it is able to open MSWord 2007 without the need for
any converter. however I found its performance with Jaws not the greatest.
are there any scripts to improve the same? also can I get some tutorials on
Jaws and Open Office.org?
regards.

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Re: [AI] cricket

2008-11-16 Thread Mahesh Panicker
well yes I did a bit, and I do agree with you. even a seasoned man like
Vinit Garg has been lacking. I believe they are not actually giving  the

On 11/16/08, Geetha Shamanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did anyone listen to the All India Radio commentary during the first
 India-England one-dayer? The quality has worsened considerably. Is BBC's
 commentary available online?

 Geetha
 - Original Message - From: Ketan Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:07 PM
 Subject: [AI] cricket


 If anyone is interested in West Indies v Pakistan ODI's here it is:


 http://radio.900am.net:8000/900
 am
 Ketan Kothari
 Phone: [r] 24223281,
 Cell: 9987550614
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Re: [AI] cricket

2008-11-16 Thread Mahesh Panicker
sorry for the incomplete mail. I mean to say they are not giving the
commentary not from the ground, but from the studio watching through TV.
the BBC doesn't have the rights, and therefore the commentary is not
available online in India.. five live and AIR, one can't even compare these
days. I think cricinfo text commentary is much better.


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 well yes I did a bit, and I do agree with you. even a seasoned man like
 Vinit Garg has been lacking. I believe they are not actually giving  the

 On 11/16/08, Geetha Shamanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did anyone listen to the All India Radio commentary during the first
 India-England one-dayer? The quality has worsened considerably. Is BBC's
 commentary available online?

 Geetha
 - Original Message - From: Ketan Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:07 PM
 Subject: [AI] cricket


 If anyone is interested in West Indies v Pakistan ODI's here it is:


 http://radio.900am.net:8000/900
 am
 Ketan Kothari
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Re: [AI] problem with Skype and the mike.

2008-09-18 Thread Mahesh Panicker
how do I update the audio drivers in my computer?



On 9/18/08, Bharat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you need to update your audio drivers. was facing the same issue, with
 google talk, followed the above suggestion  the problem was solved.

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:35 PM
 Subject: [AI] problem with Skype and the mike.


  hi list.
  I am facing a strange problem with skype, or rather with the microphone
 in
  my system. the moment I call someone from skype or for that matter I
  receive
  a call, the microphone gets muted on its own. even if I unmute it during
 a
  call, next time the problem repeats. how can it be addressed?
  looking for your suggestions.
 
 
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[AI] google crome and Jaws.

2008-09-18 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Hi list.
google over the years has been a company that has tried to understand the
concerns of the visually challenged and follow an inclusive policy.
in this context I tried to download and use their new revolutionary
development, the new webbrouser Google Crome.
but I feel its not quite accessible with Jaws as of now. has anybody tried
it out olready? are there any scripts available for the same? if there are
accessiblity issues, then I believe we should bring it to Google's
attention, as they have a history of addressing our concerns.
regards.

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[AI] problem with Skype and the mike.

2008-09-17 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list.
I am facing a strange problem with skype, or rather with the microphone in
my system. the moment I call someone from skype or for that matter I receive
a call, the microphone gets muted on its own. even if I unmute it during a
call, next time the problem repeats. how can it be addressed?
looking for your suggestions.


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[AI] recent RBI circular.

2008-08-11 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list.
I have lost the PDF copy of the recent RBI circular regarding the granting
of facilities to the disabled.
can someone please send me a copy?
thanks in advance.

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Re: [AI] facilities given by punjab national bank to visually impaired persons

2008-07-29 Thread Mahesh Panicker
I am afraid this means that the same kind of dificulties that are
particularly associated with PNB is to be continued in a different way. the
procedure for issuing ATMs remains rather complex and long, and the idea of
the witness can be used to trouble a visually challenged person as has been
happening more often than not.

On 7/29/08, kishanlal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK

 RETAIL BANKING DIVISION

 HO: 5, SANSAD MARG, NEW DELHI



 TEL: 23715042, 23716186.

 FAX Nos.- 011-23719092, 23359308





RBD ADV CIR. 30/08



I














 RBD
 Dated:
 03.07.2008



 TO ALL OFFICES




 RETAIL BANKING DIVISION: ADVANCES: CIRCULAR NO: 30


 RETAIL LOANS TO VISUALLY CHALLENGED PERSONS



 RBI, vide Notification dated 4.6.2008, has, inter alia, advised to ensure
 that retail loans are invariably offered to the visually challenged persons
 without any discrimination.



 2.   It may be noted that a blind person of sound mind is competent to
 contract, as such there is no legal bar for granting of loans to blind
 persons.  All concerned are, therefore, advised to ensure that retail loans
 are not denied to the visually impaired persons.



 3.   As regards the procedure and precautions required to be taken for
 execution of documents, it is advised that all documents to be executed by
 the blind persons be witnessed by two witnesses.  A declaration be obtained
 from the witnesses to the effect that the documents have been read over and
 understood by the blind person in their presence who after understanding the
 consequences thereof has put his signature in their presence.



 4.   The other precautions as provided by the Bank for opening of the
 accounts by the blind persons be also taken care of.  In some of the States,
 documents evidencing creation of mortgage needs to be stamped. In such
 States, the mortgage deed can be got registered.   Further, where the blind
 person is conversant with Braille language, the documents in the said
 language may be provided  to him/her (optional).





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 5.   All concerned are advised to note the above guidelines for
 compliance.







 (SC BITHAL)

 DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER

































































 PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK

 ZONAL OFFICE: JAIPUR

 (INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT)





 1.11.2007







 The Regional Manager/Senior Regional Manager,

 Regional Office/Integrated Zonal Office,

 Sriganganagar/Alwar/Bharatpur/Jodhpur/Jaipur.



 Reg: Issuance of ATM/Debit Card to blind persons.





 HO: OPSD vide their letter dated 29.10.2007 have decided as under:



 ATM cards to visually challenged persons may be issued considering the
 merits of each applicant. In such cases, specific request with full
 justification be sent to OPSD, Head Office, New Delhi for their approval for
 issuance of card.



 You are requested to ensure strict compliance of the same at each CBB
 centre under your jurisdiction.



 SD/-

 Deputy General Manager



 CC: TheSeniorManager,Marketing/InspectionAudit/PlanningDevelopment
 Department, Zonal Office, Jaipur for information and necessary action in the
 matter at the point of need.





 Deputy General Manager



 With warm regards
 Yours sincerely
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 Mobile: 09413849638
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Re: [AI] facilities given by punjab national bank to visuallyimpaired persons

2008-07-29 Thread Mahesh Panicker
technicaly its a one time activity. however my experience with PNB suggests
otherwise. each time I needed to withdraw money, they needed someone to
witness it. it really is a trouble for the VC person. in fact, it was this
problem that really forced me into a 6 month long struggle with the bank for
an ATM card.

On 7/30/08, Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 Witness is required at the time of submission of documents. This is a one
 time activity for that loan.

 I think this is ok.
 Harish.

 - Original Message -
 From: Mahesh Panicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] facilities given by punjab national bank to
 visuallyimpaired persons


 I am afraid this means that the same kind of dificulties that are
  particularly associated with PNB is to be continued in a different way.
 the
  procedure for issuing ATMs remains rather complex and long, and the idea
 of
  the witness can be used to trouble a visually challenged person as has
 been
  happening more often than not.
 
  On 7/29/08, kishanlal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK
 
  RETAIL BANKING DIVISION
 
  HO: 5, SANSAD MARG, NEW DELHI
 
 
 
  TEL: 23715042, 23716186.
 
  FAX Nos.- 011-23719092, 23359308
 
 
 
 
 
 RBD ADV CIR. 30/08
 
 
 
 I
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 RBD
 Dated:
  03.07.2008
 
 
 
  TO ALL OFFICES
 
 
 
 
  RETAIL BANKING DIVISION: ADVANCES: CIRCULAR NO: 30
 
 
  RETAIL LOANS TO VISUALLY CHALLENGED PERSONS
 
 
 
  RBI, vide Notification dated 4.6.2008, has, inter alia, advised to
 ensure
  that retail loans are invariably offered to the visually challenged
 persons
  without any discrimination.
 
 
 
  2.   It may be noted that a blind person of sound mind is competent
 to
  contract, as such there is no legal bar for granting of loans to blind
  persons.  All concerned are, therefore, advised to ensure that retail
 loans
  are not denied to the visually impaired persons.
 
 
 
  3.   As regards the procedure and precautions required to be taken
 for
  execution of documents, it is advised that all documents to be executed
 by
  the blind persons be witnessed by two witnesses.  A declaration be
 obtained
  from the witnesses to the effect that the documents have been read over
 and
  understood by the blind person in their presence who after understanding
 the
  consequences thereof has put his signature in their presence.
 
 
 
  4.   The other precautions as provided by the Bank for opening of
 the
  accounts by the blind persons be also taken care of.  In some of the
 States,
  documents evidencing creation of mortgage needs to be stamped. In such
  States, the mortgage deed can be got registered.   Further, where the
 blind
  person is conversant with Braille language, the documents in the said
  language may be provided  to him/her (optional).
 
 
 
 
 
  -2-
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  5.   All concerned are advised to note the above guidelines for
  compliance.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  (SC BITHAL)
 
  DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK
 
  ZONAL OFFICE: JAIPUR
 
  (INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT)
 
 
 
 
 
  1.11.2007
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  The Regional Manager/Senior Regional Manager,
 
  Regional Office/Integrated Zonal Office,
 
  Sriganganagar/Alwar/Bharatpur/Jodhpur/Jaipur.
 
 
 
  Reg: Issuance of ATM/Debit Card to blind persons.
 
 
 
 
 
  HO: OPSD vide their letter dated 29.10.2007 have decided as under:
 
 
 
  ATM cards to visually challenged persons may be issued considering the
  merits of each applicant. In such cases, specific request with full
  justification be sent to OPSD, Head Office, New Delhi for their approval
 for
  issuance of card.
 
 
 
  You are requested to ensure strict compliance of the same at each CBB
  centre under your jurisdiction.
 
 
 
  SD/-
 
  Deputy General Manager
 
 
 
  CC: TheSeniorManager,Marketing/InspectionAudit/PlanningDevelopment
  Department, Zonal Office, Jaipur for information and necessary action in
 the
  matter at the point of need.
 
 
 
 
 
  Deputy General Manager
 
 
 
  With warm regards
  Yours sincerely
  Kishanlal Sharma
  Mobile: 09413849638
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[AI] jaws scripts for Kaspersky antivirus

2008-07-27 Thread Mahesh Panicker
hi list.
today I have instaled Kaspersky antivirus on my computer
but I am not able to make full use of it as Jaws refuse to work with it
perfectly. the Jaws cursor doesn't work with the software. I tried to get
over the problem by reinstaling Jaws, but the problem is not solved yet. I
was wondering if there are any Jaws skripts available for Kaspersky? since
its the best antivirus available, there should be some way to get around
with the compatebility issues? can I solve the problem by making any setting
change in Jaws or the AntiVirus as such?
looking for your suggestions.

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