Re: [AI] Sample Survey on Air Travel and Disability

2012-02-24 Thread rahul cherian
Sry about that, am attaching the survey again

Rahul

On 24 February 2012 01:21, Murali Padmanabhan mur...@cbmsaron.org wrote:



 Dear Rahul,



 Greetings from CBM SARO(N)!
 Thanks for the mail.
 Can you send me a word format of the survey form as I am not able to open
 the attachment.


 Best regards,



 Murali Padmanabhan
 Inclusive Development Officer


 CBM South Asia Regional Office (North)

 #140, Commerce Cube, 3rd Floor, 5th Main, Puttannachetty Road,
 Chamarajpet,

 Bangalore - 560 018. Karnataka - INDIA

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 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul cherian
 Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:25 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Sample Survey on Air Travel and Disability

 Hi All,

 I have attached a sample survey on air travel and issues that you may have
 faced. This survey will be used to add to the document that is being
 prepared to the Ministry of Civil Aviation. They are preparing a new Civil
 Aviation Policy and we are trying to get them include a disabilities
 section to the Policy.

 The deadline set by the Ministry is this coming Monday, Feb 27. So please
 fill up the survey and send it across by tomorrow latest.

 Thanks,

 Rahul

 On 23 February 2012 22:01, prateek aggarwal
 prateekagarwa...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello experts,
  Recently  I've  been contacted by an organization for the persons with
  Dyslexia who was  so concerned regarding the disability certifickets
  for Dyslexic persons.
  As we kno that the person with Dyslexia  gets some concessions in
  education and other sectors  along with other persons with
  disabilities,  one would obviously require the disability  certificket
  to present in front of  competent authorities in order to avail the
  concessions.
 
  In the case described by this organization, the students  who are in
  their 10th an 12th standards  are wanting to avail the facilities of
  extra time, scribes etc. which are  available for them  as per the
  CBSE rules.
  The problem is, that the children wishing to avail these facilities do
  not have their disability certificket because  there's no  medical
  panel designated who can certify the Dyslexia as a disability.
  Here, the important point to consider is that Dyslexia is not
  mentioned amongst the types of disabilities in persons with
  disabilities act 1995 even.
  In such a scenario,  can someone please clarify  what proofs should a
  person with dyslexia needs to obtain in order to make him/her sele
  eligible for availing the consessions and extra facilities?
 
  Interestingly, CBSE does provide facilities of scribes and extra time
  etc to dyslexic children, but does not explicitly clarify the proofs
  that have  to be presented in order to avail the benefits.
  i've  been trying to  get this clarified by CBSE  itself, but
  unfortunately, I've not been able to get any response from them merely
  apart from predefined automated emails.
 
  A help in this regards will be highly solicited.
 
  Regards,
  Prateek agarwal.
  Managing director,
  Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
  www.daedaltechnovations.com
 
  website:
  http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
 
 
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Re: [AI] Sample Survey on Air Travel and Disability

2012-02-24 Thread rahul cherian
Harish,

can you help me with this? I have put it on Inclusive Planet  *
www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/book/13205240*

Rahul

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 Hi Rahul,

 Attachments are not permitted on the list. You may like to upload it on
 some
 file sharing website and send a link on the list.


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 - Original Message -
 From: rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:25 PM
 Subject: [AI] Sample Survey on Air Travel and Disability


 Hi All,

 I have attached a sample survey on air travel and issues that you may have
 faced. This survey will be used to add to the document that is being
 prepared to the Ministry of Civil Aviation. They are preparing a new Civil
 Aviation Policy and we are trying to get them include a disabilities
 section to the Policy.

 The deadline set by the Ministry is this coming Monday, Feb 27. So please
 fill up the survey and send it across by tomorrow latest.

 Thanks,

 Rahul

 On 23 February 2012 22:01, prateek aggarwal
 prateekagarwa...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello experts,
  Recently  I’ve  been contacted by an organization for the persons with
  Dyslexia who was  so concerned regarding the disability certifickets
  for Dyslexic persons.
  As we kno that the person with Dyslexia  gets some concessions in
  education and other sectors  along with other persons with
  disabilities,  one would obviously require the disability  certificket
  to present in front of  competent authorities in order to avail the
  concessions.
 
  In the case described by this organization, the students  who are in
  their 10th an 12th standards  are wanting to avail the facilities of
  extra time, scribes etc. which are  available for them  as per the
  CBSE rules.
  The problem is, that the children wishing to avail these facilities do
  not have their disability certificket because  there’s no  medical
  panel designated who can certify the Dyslexia as a disability.
  Here, the important point to consider is that Dyslexia is not
  mentioned amongst the types of disabilities in persons with
  disabilities act 1995 even.
  In such a scenario,  can someone please clarify  what proofs should a
  person with dyslexia needs to obtain in order to make him/her sele
  eligible for availing the consessions and extra facilities?
 
  Interestingly, CBSE does provide facilities of scribes and extra time
  etc to dyslexic children, but does not explicitly clarify the proofs
  that have  to be presented in order to avail the benefits.
  i’ve  been trying to  get this clarified by CBSE  itself, but
  unfortunately, I’ve not been able to get any response from them merely
  apart from predefined automated emails.
 
  A help in this regards will be highly solicited.
 
  Regards,
  Prateek agarwal.
  Managing director,
  Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
  www.daedaltechnovations.com
 
  website:
  http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
 
 
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Re: [AI] Sample Survey on Air Travel and Disability

2012-02-24 Thread rahul cherian
Hi the details for the survey are the following:

Name:
Nature of Disability
Airlines that problems were faced with
Nature of problems faced

Rather than send replies to the list, please email me at
rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com

Thanks,

Rahul

On 24 February 2012 02:00, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:

 well, you can not sent attachment to our group.
 send detailles withought attachment please.

  At 10:35 AM 2/24/2012, you wrote:

 Sry about that, am attaching the survey again

 Rahul

 On 24 February 2012 01:21, Murali Padmanabhan mur...@cbmsaron.org
 wrote:

 
 
  Dear Rahul,
 
 
 
  Greetings from CBM SARO(N)!
  Thanks for the mail.
  Can you send me a word format of the survey form as I am not able to
 open
  the attachment.
 
 
  Best regards,
 
 
 
  Murali Padmanabhan
  Inclusive Development Officer
 
 
  CBM South Asia Regional Office (North)
 
  #140, Commerce Cube, 3rd Floor, 5th Main, Puttannachetty Road,
  Chamarajpet,
 
  Bangalore - 560 018. Karnataka - INDIA
 
  . Mobile: +91 96633 01137 . Phone: +91 80 2667 3635 . Fax: +91 80 2667
 3640
 
  . Email: mur...@cbmsaron.org  . www.cbm.org
 
 
 
 
 
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  [mailto:accessindia-bounces@**accessindia.org.inaccessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of rahul cherian
  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:25 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: [AI] Sample Survey on Air Travel and Disability
 
  Hi All,
 
  I have attached a sample survey on air travel and issues that you may
 have
  faced. This survey will be used to add to the document that is being
  prepared to the Ministry of Civil Aviation. They are preparing a new
 Civil
  Aviation Policy and we are trying to get them include a disabilities
  section to the Policy.
 
  The deadline set by the Ministry is this coming Monday, Feb 27. So
 please
  fill up the survey and send it across by tomorrow latest.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Rahul
 
  On 23 February 2012 22:01, prateek aggarwal
  prateekagarwa...@gmail.com**wrote:
 
   Hello experts,
   Recently  I've  been contacted by an organization for the persons with
   Dyslexia who was  so concerned regarding the disability certifickets
   for Dyslexic persons.
   As we kno that the person with Dyslexia  gets some concessions in
   education and other sectors  along with other persons with
   disabilities,  one would obviously require the disability  certificket
   to present in front of  competent authorities in order to avail the
   concessions.
  
   In the case described by this organization, the students  who are in
   their 10th an 12th standards  are wanting to avail the facilities of
   extra time, scribes etc. which are  available for them  as per the
   CBSE rules.
   The problem is, that the children wishing to avail these facilities do
   not have their disability certificket because  there's no  medical
   panel designated who can certify the Dyslexia as a disability.
   Here, the important point to consider is that Dyslexia is not
   mentioned amongst the types of disabilities in persons with
   disabilities act 1995 even.
   In such a scenario,  can someone please clarify  what proofs should a
   person with dyslexia needs to obtain in order to make him/her sele
   eligible for availing the consessions and extra facilities?
  
   Interestingly, CBSE does provide facilities of scribes and extra time
   etc to dyslexic children, but does not explicitly clarify the proofs
   that have  to be presented in order to avail the benefits.
   i've  been trying to  get this clarified by CBSE  itself, but
   unfortunately, I've not been able to get any response from them merely
   apart from predefined automated emails.
  
   A help in this regards will be highly solicited.
  
   Regards,
   Prateek agarwal.
   Managing director,
   Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
   www.daedaltechnovations.com
  
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   http://www.prateekagarwal.**webs.comhttp://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
  
  
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[AI] survey on air travel

2012-02-24 Thread rahul cherian
Hello all,

I have received feedback on the survey only from Murali Padmanaban, Harish
Kotian and Rohith P. Others please send feedback ASAP. The information I
want is your name, airline you have faced problems with and the specific
problem you have faced.

Thanks,

Rahul

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[AI] Opinion piece on Jeeja Ghosh in the Indian Express

2012-02-23 Thread rahul cherian
Hi All,

I had written an article on the policy/legal side of the Jeeja
Ghosh incident in the Indian Express. Those who are interested can read
this here.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/what-jeeja-ghosh-means/915898/0

Thanks,

Rahul

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 goodmorning list members, I learn basic computer at my home. please
 guide me, How can learn at home. If any organisation have any online
 computer training for blind? your advice would be aprishated.
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[AI] Sample Survey on Air Travel and Disability

2012-02-23 Thread rahul cherian
Hi All,

I have attached a sample survey on air travel and issues that you may have
faced. This survey will be used to add to the document that is being
prepared to the Ministry of Civil Aviation. They are preparing a new Civil
Aviation Policy and we are trying to get them include a disabilities
section to the Policy.

The deadline set by the Ministry is this coming Monday, Feb 27. So please
fill up the survey and send it across by tomorrow latest.

Thanks,

Rahul

On 23 February 2012 22:01, prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello experts,
 Recently  I’ve  been contacted by an organization for the persons with
 Dyslexia who was  so concerned regarding the disability certifickets
 for Dyslexic persons.
 As we kno that the person with Dyslexia  gets some concessions in
 education and other sectors  along with other persons with
 disabilities,  one would obviously require the disability  certificket
 to present in front of  competent authorities in order to avail the
 concessions.

 In the case described by this organization, the students  who are in
 their 10th an 12th standards  are wanting to avail the facilities of
 extra time, scribes etc. which are  available for them  as per the
 CBSE rules.
 The problem is, that the children wishing to avail these facilities do
 not have their disability certificket because  there’s no  medical
 panel designated who can certify the Dyslexia as a disability.
 Here, the important point to consider is that Dyslexia is not
 mentioned amongst the types of disabilities in persons with
 disabilities act 1995 even.
 In such a scenario,  can someone please clarify  what proofs should a
 person with dyslexia needs to obtain in order to make him/her sele
 eligible for availing the consessions and extra facilities?

 Interestingly, CBSE does provide facilities of scribes and extra time
 etc to dyslexic children, but does not explicitly clarify the proofs
 that have  to be presented in order to avail the benefits.
 i’ve  been trying to  get this clarified by CBSE  itself, but
 unfortunately, I’ve not been able to get any response from them merely
 apart from predefined automated emails.

 A help in this regards will be highly solicited.

 Regards,
 Prateek agarwal.
 Managing director,
 Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
 www.daedaltechnovations.com

 website:
 http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com


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Re: [AI] I'm concerned about inaccessibility of inclusiveplanate.com website

2012-02-17 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Minar,

Yes, we are having some server problems but our tech team has assured me
that it will be resolved by the end of the day.

Rahul

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 inclusiveplanet  team if anyone  is  in this mailing list please reply
 soon.  almost one week has gone people are not able  to access
 inclusiveplanet.comDear inclusiveplanet team, I'm concern about
 loosing such a nice platform made for visually challenge candidates in
 order to share any kind of knowledge. IP team kindly resolve the
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Re: [AI] Inclusive planet problem

2012-02-13 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Gaurav and other planeteers,

For some reason our servers are down. We are on the job and hope to
rectify the problem today.

Rahul

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 hello friends! Since morning i m trying to open this site  but i m
 unable to open it. I have been tryed to open it, throu  my known's
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Re: [AI] Satanic verses

2012-01-24 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Rajesh,

Can you send it to me also? I would like to read it and understand what the
controversy is about.

Rahul

On 24 January 2012 17:00, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 I can send you an average scan of the book, provided I am not pulled up
 for distributing the banned book by moderator or police, Smile


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 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ekinath ekinath
 Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:26 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Satanic verses

 Hi friends,

 I wish to read or rather hear an audio book by Salman Rushdi Satanic
 Verses, where can I get hold of it?

 Any free or paid services are welcome to be suggested.

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Re: [AI] THE SATANIC VERSES.

2012-01-24 Thread rahul cherian
In my opinion, it is our fundamental right guaranteed under the
Constitution to discuss any book, banned or not. The moment we stop
discussion on controversial topics we are giving up our fundamental rights
and this is a very dangerous thing.

On 24 January 2012 20:47, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Well, the import is banned, and not the download etc...
 You may take a different line of argument about not distributing books
 without permission etc... Smile


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Divyanshu Ganatra
 Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:42 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] THE SATANIC VERSES.

 i dont mean to be the police here, or a party pooper. Just hope you
 are aware that this perticular book is banned in India. You may want
 to be a bit more careful.
 Thanks
 Divyanshu


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  Please download it from
 
 
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  Phone: 91-9030915271.
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Re: [AI] Need help

2011-12-15 Thread rahul cherian
Dear Dr. Jalaja,

Can I forward your email to some of my contacts working with the Kerala
government? I can find out from them what is the best way to approach this
problem.

Thanks,

Rahul Cherian

On 15 December 2011 07:26, Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,
I am Dr. Jalaja working in Kerala Govt. Health services .In march one
 of higher official came to my institution and told that there is a
 complaint about
 my handwritten prescription . I informed that I am suffering from RP and
 the DC is produced before Govt. But instead of listening she shouted and
 harassed
 me in front of the patients mentioning the disability. She took away some
 of the office records without giving any receipt and I complained the matter
 to her higher authority.Till date I didn't received any letter from the
 superior officer. I am having a DC Which is valid for 5 yrs. Now I got a
 communication
 from DIRECTOR asking me to appear before the medical board without saying
 any reason . The expense for this comes to around 500 rs. which is to be met
 by me I want an opinion in this regard . Till date there is no complaint
 about my diagnosis and treatment. The handwritting is corrected and now I
 am giving
 the prescriptions in printed form. I need suggestions from the  members of
 the grp.
Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja

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Re: [AI] Dating

2011-12-14 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Mohit,

Yes I have done it before. I say that you have nothing to fear. If you dont
ask then she cant say yes. Even if she says no, there is no loss at all.

best of luck

Rahul

On 14 December 2011 16:17, Mohit Shah Shah mohit.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I really like a girl in my class.
 I'm also friends with her.
  I really want to ask her out.
 However, I am reluctant to do so,because I think that she might not
 agree to go with me on account of my visual impairment.
  Has anyone here faced a similar problem?

 Please share your tips and suggestions.

 Regards,
 Mohit


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Re: [AI] A complex problem

2011-12-14 Thread rahul cherian
You friend should become independent and for this I suggest that he
completes his law and starts his legal career. It is not wise for him to
forsake his career because his family believes that he cannot do it. He can
do it if he puts his mind to it.


On 14 December 2011 16:41, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:

 Your friend must focus on his Law degree and making his career as a lawyer.
 Speculation about your friend's future will then change to realisation that
 he is capable of looking after not only himself but also  his parents.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mohit Shah Shah mohit.shah...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:08 PM
 Subject: [AI] A complex problem


 Hi all,

 I have a very good friend who is partially blind.
 So, he is facing a very big problem.
 I asked him to ask about his problem in this group, but he doesn't
 want to insult himself or his family by doing that.
 He is 20 years old.
 He is currently pursuing his LLB degree in Pune.

 So, his maternal grandparents are very rich.
 They have a very big house which is worth crores of rupees.
 So, his dad says that the house should be divided equally between his
 mother and her brother after the deaths of his maternal grandparents.
 His dad says that his mother should get a part of the house so that
 she will then have the resources to help him (my friend) if he fails
 to do something substantial in his life.
 His dad also works very hard to collect more and more resources just
 to make sure that my friend doesn't have to face a lot of problems in
 his future.

 So, my friend is mostly upset because his parents keep arguing about
 this matter all the time.
 He says that his dad also uses abusive language while arguing with his
 mother.
 His dad tries to prevent him (my friend) and his mother from meeting
 his grandparents, because his dad feels that his grandparents don't
 care about his future.

 His maternal grandparents say that they can't divide that particular
 house because their son (my friend's maternal uncle) stays in that
 house.
 They are,however, willing to give another house to my mother which is
 not as expensive as the house that my dad wants.

 My friend says that both his grandparents and his father are really nice
 people.
 He says that his father is worried about his future because of his
 visual impairment.
 And his father believes that his mother should also help in building a
 better future for my friend.
 My friend is a very capable guy.
 He always comes first in exams.
 So, I'm sure that he will not require anybody's assistance for
 building his career.

 He is always upset because of the fights between his parents.
 He feels that he is the main reason for all their fights.
 He wants to show his father that he is not so worthless that he will
 require the assistance of his maternal grandparents.
 So, what can my friend do?

 My friend will be reading all your posts, so please do share your
 suggestions and views.

 Regards,
 Mohit


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[AI] Update on the treaty for the Visually Impaired

2011-12-14 Thread rahul cherian
For all those interested in international developments in the Right to Read
Campaign, I have written up an update after I returned last week from the
the negotiations in Geneva. I would like to particularly mention the
support given by the delegate from Pakistan, Dr. Ahsan Nabeel to the World
Blind Union. the update is available here
http://inclusiveplanetpolicy.blogspot.com/2011/12/update-on-treaty-for-visually-impaired.html

Also, our Indian copyright amendment came up briefly in the Rajya Sabha
yesterday but could not be discussed fully. We will wait and watch to see
what happens.

Best regards,

Rahul

On 14 December 2011 16:41, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:

 Your friend must focus on his Law degree and making his career as a lawyer.
 Speculation about your friend's future will then change to realisation that
 he is capable of looking after not only himself but also  his parents.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mohit Shah Shah mohit.shah...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:08 PM
 Subject: [AI] A complex problem


 Hi all,

 I have a very good friend who is partially blind.
 So, he is facing a very big problem.
 I asked him to ask about his problem in this group, but he doesn't
 want to insult himself or his family by doing that.
 He is 20 years old.
 He is currently pursuing his LLB degree in Pune.

 So, his maternal grandparents are very rich.
 They have a very big house which is worth crores of rupees.
 So, his dad says that the house should be divided equally between his
 mother and her brother after the deaths of his maternal grandparents.
 His dad says that his mother should get a part of the house so that
 she will then have the resources to help him (my friend) if he fails
 to do something substantial in his life.
 His dad also works very hard to collect more and more resources just
 to make sure that my friend doesn't have to face a lot of problems in
 his future.

 So, my friend is mostly upset because his parents keep arguing about
 this matter all the time.
 He says that his dad also uses abusive language while arguing with his
 mother.
 His dad tries to prevent him (my friend) and his mother from meeting
 his grandparents, because his dad feels that his grandparents don't
 care about his future.

 His maternal grandparents say that they can't divide that particular
 house because their son (my friend's maternal uncle) stays in that
 house.
 They are,however, willing to give another house to my mother which is
 not as expensive as the house that my dad wants.

 My friend says that both his grandparents and his father are really nice
 people.
 He says that his father is worried about his future because of his
 visual impairment.
 And his father believes that his mother should also help in building a
 better future for my friend.
 My friend is a very capable guy.
 He always comes first in exams.
 So, I'm sure that he will not require anybody's assistance for
 building his career.

 He is always upset because of the fights between his parents.
 He feels that he is the main reason for all their fights.
 He wants to show his father that he is not so worthless that he will
 require the assistance of his maternal grandparents.
 So, what can my friend do?

 My friend will be reading all your posts, so please do share your
 suggestions and views.

 Regards,
 Mohit


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Re: [AI] IMPORTANT: COPYRIGHT AMENDMENT IN PARLIAMENT TODAY

2011-08-29 Thread rahul cherian
It did not come up today. Will come up tomorrow.

On 29 August 2011 05:39, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those who have missed it, is there a way to get it online someware?
 Or, could you just let us know summary of what all took place?
 -Original Message- From: rahul cherian
 Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:38 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; Dr. Sam Taraporevala ; Kanchan
 Pamnani ; Nirmita Narasimhan ; Dipendra Manocha
 Subject: [AI] IMPORTANT: COPYRIGHT AMENDMENT IN PARLIAMENT TODAY


 Hello All,

 The copyright amendment is being presented in the Rajya Sabha today at 4 pm
 for discussion. You can follow it live at the following link
 http://rajyasabha.nic.in/**rsnew/webcast/rstvlive.htmlhttp://rajyasabha.nic.in/rsnew/webcast/rstvlive.html

 Let us hope for the best.

 Best regards,

 Rahul Cherian
 Inclusive Planet

 On 29 August 2011 10:18, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

  Please note this saksham is different from saksham trust new delhi.
 This saksham has for its full form:
 sama drishti, kshamata vikas anusandhan mandal

 And, yes, it is a late entrant in disability field than saksham trust of
 new delhi, so I am amazed why they chose to stick to the similar name
 despite my repeated exhortations not to create unnecessary confusion
 Work of this saksham receiving award is mainly confined to creating eye
 banks..
 and a few accessible books etc


 -Original Message-
 From: 
 accessindia-bounces@**accessindia.org.inaccessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in[mailto:
 accessindia-bounces@**accessindia.org.inaccessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of sandesh
 Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 12:14 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Saksham to Get Prestigious Moropant Pingale Award

   Saksham to Get Prestigious Moropant Pingale Award

 Posted: 27 Aug 2011



 Pune : A Prestigious Moropant Pingle Smriti Puraskar is awarded to
 'Saksham' a institute working towards blinds. RSS Sarasanghachalak Dr.
 Mohan
 Bhagwat is scheduled to grace the function of the Distribution of Late
 Moropant Pingle Social service award at Pune on Tuesday the 30th august.
 The function is being organized by The Janata Sahakari Bank, Pune at
 Ganesh
 Kala Krida Kendra in the evening at 6.30. The bank is celebrating its
 Diamond jubilee this year. This year's Moropant Pingle Smriti Puraskar is
 being awarded to the SAKSHAM institute which is engaged in organizing
 various projects and programs for the empowerment of the blind bretheren.
 The bank will also take this opportunity to inaugurate the distribution of
 this year's Dividend at the hands of Dr. Mohan Bhagwat.
 News source:
 http://www.newsbharati.com/**Encyc/News/0/0/0/0/52/SAKSHAM-**
 to-get-prestigious-Moropant-**Pingale-Award.aspxhttp://www.newsbharati.com/Encyc/News/0/0/0/0/52/SAKSHAM-to-get-prestigious-Moropant-Pingale-Award.aspx

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[AI] IMPORTANT: COPYRIGHT AMENDMENT IN PARLIAMENT TODAY

2011-08-28 Thread rahul cherian
Hello All,

The copyright amendment is being presented in the Rajya Sabha today at 4 pm
for discussion. You can follow it live at the following link
http://rajyasabha.nic.in/rsnew/webcast/rstvlive.html

Let us hope for the best.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
Inclusive Planet

On 29 August 2011 10:18, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Please note this saksham is different from saksham trust new delhi.
 This saksham has for its full form:
 sama drishti, kshamata vikas anusandhan mandal

 And, yes, it is a late entrant in disability field than saksham trust of
 new delhi, so I am amazed why they chose to stick to the similar name
 despite my repeated exhortations not to create unnecessary confusion
 Work of this saksham receiving award is mainly confined to creating eye
 banks..
 and a few accessible books etc


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of sandesh
 Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 12:14 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Saksham to Get Prestigious Moropant Pingale Award

Saksham to Get Prestigious Moropant Pingale Award

 Posted: 27 Aug 2011



 Pune : A Prestigious Moropant Pingle Smriti Puraskar is awarded to
 'Saksham' a institute working towards blinds. RSS Sarasanghachalak Dr. Mohan
 Bhagwat is scheduled to grace the function of the Distribution of Late
 Moropant Pingle Social service award at Pune on Tuesday the 30th august.
 The function is being organized by The Janata Sahakari Bank, Pune at Ganesh
 Kala Krida Kendra in the evening at 6.30. The bank is celebrating its
 Diamond jubilee this year. This year's Moropant Pingle Smriti Puraskar is
 being awarded to the SAKSHAM institute which is engaged in organizing
 various projects and programs for the empowerment of the blind bretheren.
 The bank will also take this opportunity to inaugurate the distribution of
 this year's Dividend at the hands of Dr. Mohan Bhagwat.
 News source:
 http://www.newsbharati.com/Encyc/News/0/0/0/0/52/SAKSHAM-to-get-prestigious-Moropant-Pingale-Award.aspx

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Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job search?

2011-05-16 Thread rahul cherian
My take is a little different. I believe that full disclosure is critical if
you want to advance to senior positions in the workplace. When preparing a
CV I think that we should not apologetic about our disabilities and
therefore we should not add a column stating that we have a disability, but
rather couch the wording in a different way and give clues as to our
disability. For example, you can think of adding for example, Can work with
most assistive technology including NVDA and JAWS or Member of National
Association of the Blind. So when meeting the employer for the interview he
already has some idea that you have a disability. If the employer taking the
interview finds out about your disability only at the interview, it may come
as a shock and reduce your chances.

I think it is also important at the interview to demonstrate what you can do
by giving a demo of what you can do on your laptop. Be upfront and say
something at the beginning of your interview to put the employer at ease,
something like I know that you are surprised to find a blind person coming
for an interview, but I assure you that I am just as capable as anyone else
when I am behind a computer. A smile from you here will be useful.

As a person with physical disability who walks with crutches I have found
that a combination of ability and confidence can overcome any prejudices
that employers may have.

Rahul Cherian
Inclusive Planet

On 17 May 2011 10:23, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:

 My point is that if the employer sees your CV, and finds suitable
 qualifications, though if not remarkable achievements, and knowing
 that if he calls you, then he is open towards understanding about
 disability or things like assistive technoligies. Presuming employer's
 awareness at the initial stage is unlikely in 99% cases, unless you
 deal with bigshots.
 I would not prefer to convince people who are dam negative, because
 though after interview I might get the job due to the touch which it
 leaves on people's brain after seeing such commendable things like
 assistive technologies, but then at every step I'll need to do an
 extra effort of making them understand that yes, I can do this or
 that.
 I do not fear from taking challenges, but I would not want to take
 such challenges in areas like job where I need to spend my whole life,
 or few years, because coming over these challenges gets you nothing
 out of it, only the thing which you get is that the work is done by
 you. Whereas if the employer is of understanding nature, then after
 looking at your working style, he will appoint you, and not only that,
 he will let you do all things which you are capable of doing. In very
 few cases, you'll need to convince such an employer, and such cases
 would be so that where an ordinary person would not presume that a
 blind can do this thing. For example, using touch screen phone with
 screen reading technology or understanding images using tactle. Might
 not be a sound example, but at least that makes my point clear.
 If I may give my own example, then when I interned in Jan this year, I
 was well accepted by people of the office, but I was not given good
 amount of work despite prooving myself in all works which they gave
 me. Whereas, the place where I am currently interning, I am getting
 every day some or other thing, and I am making my brain strong.
 If I would have continued in my previous company, then my progress
 would have been slower then what I am doing now.
 Another example, if you go to branch manager for banking facilities,
 and if he just because of the banking circulars give you all the
 facilities and if at later date some facility come, he might deny or
 ask you for another circular. But if your manager is sensible and
 understanding person, then if he understands at the initial stage
 itself about various things related to disability, then at later stage
 you will not need to convince him that you can use this facility. The
 only thing which he will check is that there should not be something
 which denies such new facility to disabled.
 Come back for more clerifications.

 On 5/16/11, Adina Galani lotusflowe...@gmail.com wrote:
  One just needs to make a specification in the CV.  At least, out of
  curiosity, I think the interview will take place. I am personally for
  revealing it, rather than facing the confused attitude, on spot.
  Adina
  On May 16, 2011, at 18:23, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Amar,
 
  What if the employer doesn't have awareness about assistive technology
  till the interview?  And the candidate sensitises him on the same and
  manages to convince him that visually challenged people can work in
  his office.  Do you want to miss such an interview?
 
 
 
  On 5/16/11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
  If I am asked, then I would recommend revealing disability on CV
  itself, because even after knowing about your disability if the
  employer is willing to interview you, then I

[AI] Incredible stories

2011-02-23 Thread rahul cherian
Hi everyone,

*Listen to the stories of people living with visual impairment on the Inclusive
Stories Channel http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/group/1388574.*

*
*

Have you ever thought about what inspired you to take the most difficult
decision in your life?

Think about it and you will realize that it's the stories of people that you
have met or heard of that serve as the strongest source of inspiration!
Stories of our parents, role models, and people that we admire!

So we thought: why don’t we use our Inclusive Planet to bring together
stories told by visually impaired people? There are so many strong and
amazing visually challenged people who have achieved so much in their lives!
Why don’t we encourage them to share their stories with us? Let’s ask them
to tell us about the challenges that they have faced in life, education,
while looking for employment, about their aspirations and advice they can
give to others.

So we started creating short videos of people telling their stories in order
to share them with all of you on Inclusive Planet. You can listen to the
first stories on Inclusive Stories
channelhttp://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/group/1388574now. And every
week we will upload more and more inspiring stories!

Don't forget to share the link with your friends and family! You never know
the impact one short email from you can have on another person!

Do let me know whether you would like to share your story.

Best,

Rahul

On 23 February 2011 14:22, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre 
sruti.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is a good idea Srinivasu. We can send it to Registrar General of India
 but also submit copies to Census Offices in our respective states.

 One of our volunteers have already started a survey in his college - he is
 asking his classmates whether Question 9 was asked when enumerators visited
 their families. He started this on his own - he was actively helping us in
 awareness campaign on Census and was upset when the question was not asked
 to his mother. Will share this report with you once it is compiled.
 Regards
 Shampa Sengupta

 On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Vaishnavi Jayakumar 
 jayakumar.vaishn...@gmail.com wrote:

  That's a great idea Srinivasu!
 
  --
  Message: 10
  Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:47:22 +0530
  From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in, Voice Vision.
l...@voicevision.in
  Subject: [AI] Share census experience
 
  Hi Friends,
  I have seen several threads on sharing their census experience and I
  thought, it would be nice to put all experiences together and then share
 as
  a single PDF documents and arrange to send the same to concerned
  authorities. With that objective, I have created a blog post at
 
 
 http://srinivasu.org/blog/2011/02/census-experience-by-people-with-disabilities/Please
  join the discussion and once we feel, it's good to share, we can send
  it across to different authorities.
 
  Kanchan, would you figure out who should we share these experiences?
  Thanks,
  -Srinivasu
 
  --
  Best regards,
 
  Srinivasu Chakravarthula
  Mobile: +91 990 081 0881
  Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org
  Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/VasuTweets
  Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability
 info!
  Question 9 relates to disability.
 
 Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability info!
 Question 9 relates to disability.

Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability info!
Question 9 relates to disability.


[AI] Top 5 common problems faced by VI with respect to services providers or Government in India

2011-01-19 Thread rahul cherian
Hello all,

I have been invited to talk at the United Nations Online Dispute Resolution
Working Group Conference with respect to problems faced by persons with
visual impairment in connection with denial of services by service providers
including banks, insurance, airlines etc. as well as the government.

The objective is to come up with a suitable online system for resolution of
disputes whereby by VIs can lodge complaints/disputes with this authority so
that the disputes/complaints can be dealt with and resolved without going to
court etc.

Can members mail me with some details of instances where they have been
denied services by service providers or the government? My email id is
rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com

Thanks,

Rahul Cherian


[AI] Inclusive Planet becomes an International Member of the World Blind Union

2010-11-26 Thread rahul cherian
Hello everyone,

I would like to share some good news. Inclusive Planet has become an
international member of the World Blind Union. The Executive Committee of
the WBU met and made this decision. We are the second organisation from Asia
to be approved as an international member. The other international members
include the Daisy Consortium, Switzerland, Sight Savers International,
United Kingdom, Perkins School of the Blind, USA and Helen Keller
International USA.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of you who have supported
us and given us invaluable advice and input. In particular I would like to
thank Harish for all his advice and for running this wonderful list.

We are extremely happy to be recognized internationally for the efforts we
have put in for the last 2 years. But none of it would have been possible
without the support of our members from India and the other 104 countries
where Inclusive Planet has members.

Thank you and best regards,

Rahul Cherian
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[AI] Right to Read Campaign - Parliamentary Standing Committee Report

2010-11-25 Thread rahul cherian
Hello Folks,

Some great news to share. The Parliamentary Standing Committee working on
the Copyright amendment has made available its report. The committee has
taken into account the submissions and presentations made to it by members
of the National Access Alliance including XRCVC and Inclusive Planet. Given
below are excepts of the Committee's recommendations:

“After analysing the proposed amendments as envisaged in section 31B and 52
(1) (zb) in the backdrop of interactions held with various stakeholders and
the Department, the Committee strongly feels that concerns raised by the
organizations working for the disabled are indeed very genuine. The
Committee would like to point out that the real objective behind these two
provisions is to facilitate the cause of the disabled. Every attempt needs
to be made to remove all the drawbacks highlighted in the proposed
amendments.



The Committee is of the firm opinion that all physically challenged need to
be benefitted by the proposed amendments. It would be very discriminating if
envisaged benefit remains restricted to only visually impaired, leaving out
persons affected by cerebral palsy, dyslexia and low vision. The Committee
takes note of fact that even regular Braille users complement Braille with
other accessible formats like audio, reading material with large fonts and
electronic texts. The Committee also observes that the modern day Braille
production is dependent on the material being first converted into
mainstream electronic formats such as MS Word because Braille translation
software requires inputs in such formats.

The Committee hopes that the request of organisations for extending access
of works to all accessible formats instead of special formats presently
under consideration of the Department will result in a positive outcome.”


This is a major breakthrough for the community. However, the journey
continues and we must ensure that the wording of the amendment reflects the
recommendations of the Committee.

Congratulations to all those who worked hard for this. But keep your fingers
crossed.


Best regards,


Rahul Cherian

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Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

2010-09-24 Thread rahul cherian
Dear Mahesh,

This is a terrible situation. I think the press would definitely be
interested to cover this. This kind of act must be exposed, in my opinion.
Moreover, since C-DAC is a governmental organisation, you would possible
even have a constitutional remedy.

Do let me know if you need help in reaching out to the press. Subramani also
should be able to cover this. Subramani what do you think? Is there a story
here?

Just a word of caution. going to the press has adverse effects as well as
you may already know.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
Inclusive Planet

On 24 September 2010 12:28, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear MR. Mahesh,
 I’m very sad and angry that such discriminatory incidence has happened
 with you.
 When these type of situations occur and your superior or or for
 example, any other person behaves like this, the most effective
 solution is to record such type of conversations probably that
 particular recording will give you nothing for this time, but it
 surely do two important things:
 1.  for the next time, you’ll not be discriminated like this;
 2.  These type of persons will surely thing at least many times before
 committing such acts.

 I’ve done recordings of these sorts of conversations and they have
 been very very effective. Respected Vashishth sir knows about it, and
 he himself has done recordings in some occasions.
 With regards,
 Akhilesh.



 On 9/24/10, Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org wrote:
  Mahesh,
  Yet, I don't blame your boss although he is totally wrong, unless this
  has happened to you in the past as well. If it was for the first time.
  I think, you should have taken a little effort and tell him how VI
  people represent across the globe and that would have surely convinced
  him.
 
  Although it is a common attitude, but most people would not do that
  intentionally but due to lack of awareness.
 
  Thanks,
  Srinivasu
 
  On 9/24/10, sunil sunilsangtan...@gmail.com wrote:
  disgusting. these superiors really dont know  how to talk with there
  kaleeks but sir, you shouldnt give up  this golden opportunity so
  easyly.
  you could try to understand him.
  anyways friends,  this is not a one- happened thing, now we strongly
  nneed any rools or awairness to stop these nonsense.
 
  On 9/24/10, Mahesh Shah mss...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Friends--
 
  I am writing to this list after a long time. I wish to tell you an
  incident happened in my office , which shocked me.
 
  Every year, a delegation goes from my office, C-DAC, to participate in
  SuperComputing conference in USA. This year I put my self-nomination
  for this. I am the most qualified and most senior person for the job.
 
  But my boss called me for a one-to-one discussion and informed me that
  it will be 'embarrasing' to send a person (VI) like me in . the
  delegation. Because I will require someone's support and will hold
  someone's hand. Also if some accident happens to me because of my
  disability, he and office will be hold responsible for why they sent
  such a person.
 
  I was really shocked and upset with the behaviour. Then I withdrew my
  nomination for participation in the conference.
 
  Friends, I want to show you that how these learned so-called superiors
  fail to understand the VI peoples aspirations and behave in such a
  nonsense way.
 
  Thanks for sharing my concerns.
 
 
 
  Mahesh Shah
  Pune
 
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Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

2010-09-24 Thread rahul cherian
I think that a comprehensive approach is needed, both in terms of legal
strategy as well as media engagement. One without the other will not make
any significant difference. If we as educated, technology using persons with
disabilities fail to respond to, and take up such issues change will happen
only slowly. We have to make change happen and not wait for it to take its
time.

Mahesh, do let me know whether I should get some journalists to get in touch
with you.



On 24 September 2010 15:56, Subramani L lsubramani.v...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is indeed shocking and dismaying to see someone who is technically
 minded has to speak like this. Ironically, these are the very people
 who seem to boast about their work on ORCA and other so-called
 accessibility tools for the disabled persons . One thing they must try
 developing is a device with a heart and a proper thinking brain:
 things they obviously do not have. Sometimes I lose my cool on hearing
 things like these since it makes me wonder what best can be done to
 put sense into people's head. After all, I can write and people like
 Subash Vhashisht, Kanchan or Rahul can fight, but putting sense into
 people's head... Difficult thing indeed. So Mahesh, it's their loss
 not your's.

 Subramani

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Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

2010-09-24 Thread rahul cherian
I agree with Geetha, try and see whether you can discuss this issue with
your boss. If he is unwilling to relook at this issue then you should
possibly take the next step. Opportunities like this may not come around
often.

Rahul

On 24 September 2010 20:35, Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.de wrote:

 Hi Mahesh,

 Please do not get me wrong for asking you these questions, but how
 independent are you? Do you travel to work and move around within the
 office
 on your own? Do you use a white cane? Do you travel independently outside
 Pune on your own, be it for official or private purposes?

 The impression colleagues at work have of us blind people is to a large
 extent dependent on the way we conduct ourselves. If a blind person
 requires
 assistance to move around within the office or to commute to work,
 colleagues will always assume that blind people are dependent. It is not
 their fault entirely; that blind person in their office might be the only
 blind person they have come across in their whole existence.

 Instead of going to the press and publicising this issue, what is probably
 required here is for you to have a long and candid talk with your superior
 and try and convince him that you are capable of looking after yourself
 during the US trip, and that you will not be excessively dependent on the
 colleagues traveling with you. You can also ask him to specifically list
 out
 his reservations; you can then  address them individually. If you have
 traveled alone previously, tell him how you did so and how independently
 you
 dealt with the situation. It won't be easy, but each of us will have to
 fight this battle on our own.

 Finally, if he is not sufficiently convinced and does not agree to send you
 to the conference, do not give up. Whenever opportunities to travel to
 local
 conferences or other events within Pune or other parts of India arise, be
 the first one to apply. He may not be averse to sending you to local
 events;
 so make full use of it and try to be as independent as possible during
 these
 events. You will then notice how your superior's impression of you changes.

 Geetha
 - Original Message -
 From: Mahesh Shah mss...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 5:45 AM
 Subject: [AI] behaviour of my superior


 Dear Friends--

 I am writing to this list after a long time. I wish to tell you an
 incident happened in my office , which shocked me.

 Every year, a delegation goes from my office, C-DAC, to participate in
 SuperComputing conference in USA. This year I put my self-nomination
 for this. I am the most qualified and most senior person for the job.

 But my boss called me for a one-to-one discussion and informed me that
 it will be 'embarrasing' to send a person (VI) like me in . the
 delegation. Because I will require someone's support and will hold
 someone's hand. Also if some accident happens to me because of my
 disability, he and office will be hold responsible for why they sent
 such a person.

 I was really shocked and upset with the behaviour. Then I withdrew my
 nomination for participation in the conference.

 Friends, I want to show you that how these learned so-called superiors
 fail to understand the VI peoples aspirations and behave in such a
 nonsense way.

 Thanks for sharing my concerns.



 Mahesh Shah
 Pune

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[AI] Right to Read Campaign - encouraging news report.

2010-09-19 Thread rahul cherian
Hi everyone,

This article came yesterday. Let us collectively hold our breath and hope
for the best.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
Inclusiveplanet.com

On 19 September 2010 17:54, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.comwrote:

 better you should keep a manual chessboard while playing with computer. you
 should put the coins on the board manually as your machine plays.

 - Original Message - From: Swasti Mathur swastimat...@gmail.com
 

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:15 PM

 Subject: Re: [AI] computer chess game


  please someone describe me how to play this game? i love to play chess!
 any help is egarly awaited.
 thanks in advance and best regards
 Swasti Mathur
 Balaram wrote:

 Press enter on the below link.

 http://hgm.nubati.net/WinBoard-4.4.4.exe









 On 09/10/2010 04:32 PM, bharatvaya wrote:

 from where can I  download?
 bharat vaya
 - Original Message - From: Balaram balaramputh...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] computer chess game


  Winboard is a free and totally accessible computer chess game.





 On 09/10/2010 03:58 PM, bharatvaya wrote:

 hi list member is there any computer chess game witch VI percen can
 play?
 bharat vaya
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Re: [AI] Right to Read Campaign - encouraging news report.

2010-09-19 Thread rahul cherian
oops, forgot the link
http://in.news.yahoo.com/48/20100917/814/tnl-copyright-exemption-to-allow-disable_1.html

On 19 September 2010 23:53, rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com
 wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 This article came yesterday. Let us collectively hold our breath and hope
 for the best.

 Best regards,

 Rahul Cherian
 Inclusiveplanet.com

 On 19 September 2010 17:54, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
 bsvermad...@gmail.comwrote:

 better you should keep a manual chessboard while playing with computer.
 you should put the coins on the board manually as your machine plays.

 - Original Message - From: Swasti Mathur 
 swastimat...@gmail.com

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:15 PM

 Subject: Re: [AI] computer chess game


  please someone describe me how to play this game? i love to play chess!
 any help is egarly awaited.
 thanks in advance and best regards
 Swasti Mathur
 Balaram wrote:

 Press enter on the below link.

 http://hgm.nubati.net/WinBoard-4.4.4.exe









 On 09/10/2010 04:32 PM, bharatvaya wrote:

 from where can I  download?
 bharat vaya
 - Original Message - From: Balaram balaramputh...@gmail.com
 
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] computer chess game


  Winboard is a free and totally accessible computer chess game.





 On 09/10/2010 03:58 PM, bharatvaya wrote:

 hi list member is there any computer chess game witch VI percen can
 play?
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Re: [AI] regarding another group

2010-08-10 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Nomi,

You can check out Inclusiveplanet.com, the worlds largest online platform
for persons with visual impairment. On inclusiveplanet.com you can not only
share attachments, you can also interact with VIs from around the world.

Cheers,

Rahul

On 10 August 2010 12:33, nomi pathak.nomi.pun...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi friends! Is there any other mailing list or group for v.is where we can
 share attachments. Please let me know. If there's not should we create one?


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Re: [AI] problem with Walking

2010-06-09 Thread rahul cherian
Hi,

Has anyone tried using a walker instead of a stick? I am mobility impaired
and I sometimes use a walker especially in the night when there is a power
cut. I find that the advantage of a walker is that the chances of falling
are close to zero.

Cheers,

Rahul

On 9 June 2010 14:08, prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello there,
 Walking independently is certainly one of the most essential skills a
 blind person should know.
 Though I myself am not an expert in walking as I’ve never taken any
 formal training in it, but with experience I can move at my own
 without much hassles, so I can tell you out of experience that its not
 difficult.
 The first and most important thing  in order to walk independently is
 to build a self confidence in your own  that you can move by yourself.
 If you’ve obtained the confidence in you, you are half way ahead!

 Here, could you please tell in which city you do reside?

 There are a number of cities where mobility trainings are imparted to
 persons with visual impairment by some  organizations.
 If your city has such an organization, you may go there and learn the
 skills.

 Do let the list know about your city, folks here would let you know if
 there is any institute or individual who can teach you the mobility
 skills.

 However, before all this, as I already said, that you need to build a
 confidence in your own self about moving independently. Its very easy,
 mate, you do not need to worry about anything.
 As per risks involved,  they are there with sighted people as well. Aren’t
 they?


 regards,
 Prateek agarwal.
  Skype:
 Prateek_agarwal32
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 ---original message---
 From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:47:36 +0530
 Subject: [AI] problem with Walking
 Hi friend!

 I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem.

 my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new
 place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse,
 that I have stick,
 but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When
 I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old.
 and I am in
 college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college,
 and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my
 great wickness
 of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many
 opportunities and many works.

 therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by
 replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or
 How to use stick
 in a systematically to walk.

 Therefore friends, I am weighting your response.

 Thank you!

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Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

2010-05-25 Thread rahul cherian
: Asudani, Rajesh 
 rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking


   Who is bloody branch manager to sit in judgment over rules framed
 by regulator?
 If he/she has to question them, let him represent to central bank or
 government, for the time, rules are there, he has to comply with them.
 If we give in to approach of petty functionaries thwarting rules,
 there
 will be no rule of law in this country.
 Moreover, why does anybody require banking facilities? So, there is no
 rational behind this question.
 And, about ATM, bank is not responsible anyway for misuse or loss.
 Check book is another matter, and I have time and again pointed out
 the
 lacunae in the policy pertaining to it.
 So, we can not hold bankers denying it to fault.

 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

   --Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal
 Verma
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:51 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

 Hello,

 Noone has to deform such a pioneer corporate like PNB. RBI framed
 rules
 and
 circulars, but being a Branch Manager, it seems impractical to issue
 ATM
 card to the blind customers. Let me argue the matter with the blind
 customer
 who is in need of ATM card and cheque book. Why does he need ATM card
 and
 cheque book and how shall I issue? Let him convince me.

 Thanks.
 Kamal Verma
 - Original Message -
 From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking


 dear Mr. Verma. .
 surprised to know someone has something nice to say about PNB. I
 haven't find many other organizations as obnoxious as PNB is. I had a
 real struggle to get my ATM card from PNB. in fact, I'd contacted the
 higher authorities as well. but at the end of the day, I had to
 complaint to the RBI, and also to the NHRC and the government of
 India
 ministry of finance to get my card. after all that, I got my card
 after a good 7 months. recently too, I had a terrible time with the
 PNB, when I applied for a check book. as I already mentioned, this
 happened after I submitted the RBI circular on the rights of the
 disabled on banking facility.
 and then we all have the story of a visually challenged being asked
 to
 provide a NOC from the parents to avail an ATM card. have you heard
 of
 anything more obnoxious?
 banks in general, and PNB in particular have a horrible record when
 it
 comes to acknowledging the rightful claims of the disabled. so we
 have
 to take the struggle against such horrible institutional nonsense to
 all possible levels including the media.

 On 5/24/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote:

 Hello all,

 I am surprised to note various complaints against PNB in this list.
 I
 am
 availing all the banking facilities, such as cheque book, debit
 card,
 credit
 card, internet banking, etc. PNB does not ignore the blind
 community,
 hence
 if any problem occurs, it may be communicated to the higher
 authorities
 of
 PNB with the name and designation of the concerned officer.

 Thanks.
 Kamal Verma

 - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker
 maheshspanic...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking



  banking is one area where there is a lot of discrimination against
  the
  visually challenged. opening an account itself isn't any easier, 
 but
  ones you open an account, getting the common banking facilities 
 like
  ATM cards and check book is an absolute nightmare.I've an account
  with
  the Punjab National Bank, and I had my struggle of my life to get
  my
  ATM card issued. it took me a good 7 month for the same to be 
 done.
  the struggle for the check book was also on similar lines, and
  although I've got the checkbook, it has come with a lot of
  conditions.
  most people on access india can tell you similar stories. I 
 believe
  some of our own members have taken a lot of initiative in this
  regard,
  and the 2008 RBI order is an achievement because of such
  initiatives.
 
  On 5/23/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   blind persons should organize and conduct an agitation before 
  the
 banking
   division and finance ministry. this is the only solution.
   - Original Message - From: rahul cherian
   rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:47 PM
   Subject: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
  
  
  
Folks,
   
I have been

[AI] Difficulties in Banking

2010-05-23 Thread rahul cherian
Folks,

I have been asked to prepare a comprehensive note on the issues that persons
with visual impairment face with banking in India, especially in leading
banks such as ICICI, HDFC and SBI, along with possible solutions. This note
has been asked for by some senior people I know personally in these banks.
If anyone would like to help me prepare this note do let me know at the
earliest. If anyone has the details of any such note which has been prepared
earlier do forward that to me.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
Inclusive Planet

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 Hi Dinesh,
 Can you provide us with little more details about your problem with
 Yahoo! Messenger so as to help you better?

 Regards,
 Srinivasu

 On 5/23/10, dinesh shukla dineshshukla2...@gmail.com wrote:
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 massenger.
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Re: [AI] Committee to draft new disability law.

2010-05-05 Thread rahul cherian
Kanchan, if we have the law in less than 5 years I promise to shave my head.
If it takes more than 5 years you must shave your head. Do we have a deal?

On a more serious note, can we help in any way as concerned citizens and
stakeholders?

Rahul

On 6 May 2010 10:47, Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rajesh half a decade is  5 years. My bet is 2 years. Lets se when the time
 comes as to who is right and who is proved wrong.
 If I am nearly right you will promise to be less pessimestic and less
 cynical in the future. If I am totally wrong then I will forget about  the
 law for the disabled and join my dharna brothers and sisters.

 On a more serious note lets hope it is a good law and hopefully the private
 sector is included and hopefully there is accountability.
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh 
 rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:19 AM

 Subject: Re: [AI] Committee to draft new disability law.


  Okay, but I also know that the process of new committee, drafting and
 commenting on the statute and finally having a brand new law implies status
 quo for at least half a decade.
 Would be glad if proved wrong not verbally but factually.


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

   --Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
 Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:53 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Committee to draft new disability law.

 George
 I can atleast say that now we know we are going towards a new Law. One
 barrier broken one step ahead.
 Let the committee do its best. They have plenty of material to work on.
 For
 the last 4 years consultations have been going on and recommendations have
 been going to the Ministry. If they take a lot of the suggestions in, we
 will have a good law.

 Once the draft is ready we will see it on the Ministry's website and we
 can
 then criticize it add to it or delete it. If it is not good enough we can
 restart the process.
 The disabled world has changed. Many people know their minds and rights
 and
 many people have a voice and know how to use it.
 Hopefully somebody with some sense has chosen the committee. I know that
 many thought they should be on the committee because they represented the
 so
 called National Organisations, its upto the Ministry to decide. Lets give
 the new committee a chance.
 Kanchan

 - Original Message -
 From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Committee to draft new disability law.


  It is really exciting  that a brand new law is to be drafted. I am not
 however sure if they have got the best team on board to draft the bill. I
 am not sure if this law  will dramatically depart from charity to an
 inclusive one.

 Regards,

 George
 - Original Message -
 From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:53 PM
 Subject: [AI] Committee to draft new disability law.



 Dear friends.

 The ministry of social justice and empowerment, government of Indiahas
 constituted a committee of experts to draft a new disability law which
 will
 replace the existing one.

 MSSudha Kaul shall be the chairperson. Other members are G. Syamala
 executive director of A.A.D.I. DR Bhushan Punani, executive director of
 Blind people's association,  MS Jayashree Ravindran of ability foundation
 Chennai, Shree Karna from Hydrabad, MS merry Baruva, MS Uma Tuli former
 chief disability commissioner, Shree Rajiv Raturi of Human rights law
 network New Delhi.



 MS Punam Natrajan and general Cardozo will be the members of this
 committee
 by virtue of their office, that is chairpersons of national trust and
 rehabilitation council of India respectively.

 Details awaited.

 Suhas Karnik.

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[AI] Front Line article on campaign for copyright amendment

2010-05-04 Thread rahul cherian
Article from the Front Line magazine on the Campaign for copyright
amendment:

http://www.frontline.in/stories/20100521271011000.htm

On 4 May 2010 22:55, sunilsangtani sunilsangtan...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello friend,
 go to this link and search ur desire channel link:
 http://labs.google.co.in/smschannels/browse

 On 5/4/10, Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear friends,
 
  I want to know the list of channels which we could subscribe in
  google. Can anybody provide the link for the same?
 
  Warm Regards,
  Have a nice day
 
  Hozefa...
  Mobile No: +919930408514
 
 
 
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 I have promises to keep,
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[AI] BJP, Left threaten to block Copyright Bill

2010-04-23 Thread rahul cherian

 The Mint, Delhi, April, 23, 2010

Economy and Politics Page

 Manish Ranjan and Santosh K. Joy

New Delhi: The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and Left parties on Thursday
threatened to block an amendment to the Copyright Bill in Parliament if the
government does not make changes to safeguard the interests of the visually
impaired.

“The discriminatory provisions of the Bill must go,” said Communist Party of
India-Marxist (CPM) leader Brinda Karat.

Arun Jaitley, BJP member and leader of the Opposition in the Rajya Sabha,
said his party was against the amendment in its current form.

The proposed amendment makes an exception in the law to allow the conversion
of printed material in special formats like Braille and without any royalty
or licence fees.

But many visually handicapped people have already moved on to electronic and
audio formats such as screen-reading software and digital talking books.

The proposed Bill makes no exception for electronic formats and treats any
digital conversion without permission as a copyright violation punishable
under law.

Rahul Cherian, a copyright lawyer working with Inclusive Planet, a
non-profit body, said the proposed amendment would deprive more than 70
million Indians with disabilities from exercising their right to education.

Shamnad Basheer, professor in intellectual property law at National
University of Juridical Sciences, said it was ironical that education
minister Kapil Sibal formed a sub-committee to sort out copyright issues
between Hindi film-makers and writers and lyricists, but took no initiative
to address the concerns of the visually impaired.

*manis...@livemint.com*


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Re: [AI] disability and census

2010-04-19 Thread rahul cherian
Interesting article on this issue in the deccan chronicle:

UID is an invasion of privacy: Experts

The Nandan Nilekani headed Unique Identification Authority of India (UIDAI)
came in for much criricism at the first of a series of debates on the issue
organised in the city on Friday - Deccan Chronicle, April 17th.


Bengaluru, April 16: Legal experts and several ordinary people find the move
to give all citizens of the country an identity number an invasion of their
privacy. The Nandan Nilekani headed Unique Identification Authority of India
(UIDAI) came in for much criricism at the first of a series of debates on
the issue organised in the city on Friday.

Participants found the idea of concentrating so much power in one authority
frightening. One of the panelists Usha Ramanathan of the Centre for the
Study of Developing Societies said that in two or three years people would
not be able to travel without carrying their identity numbers on them. The
logic behind this is that if you don't have a number, you don't exist. Our
personal information will be fed into the systems of various agencies with a
certain set of people handling that data. Allowing so much power in the
guise of security is handing too much control to the State, Ms Ramanathan
said.

Malavika Jayaram of the Centre for internet and Society, described the UID
as “a technological solution to a problem that isn't even technological in
nature.”

Gautam John of Pratham Books, however, felt that a mechanism such as the UID
could help identify school dropouts and in tracking quality of education.

But most complained about a lack of clarity on the issue

On 19 April 2010 17:52, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Well, ways of India are strange, like those of God himself
 Though everybody knows that caste does form an indispensable factor for
 many things in India, including discrimination throughout millennia and its
 consequent reverse or compensatory discrimination/affirmative action, and
 even constitutional facilities like reservations etc., it is not counted in
 census.
 We are habituated to avoiding uncomfortable realities, in the naive belief
 that by doing so, we are eliminating them.
 It is like a child who believes that by closing his eyes, he can not see
 others, and so has become invisible himself to others as well



 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 5:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census

 UID is just a number and it is going to simply say that so and so is
 actually so and so. There has not been any talk of adding any questions
 about caste or creed. Our discussion has been on whether or not one
 should reveal one's identity as a disabled person if that becomes a
 question.

 Subramani

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
 Rajesh
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:37 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census

 Wonderful, Jalaja!!
 I am amazed why such simple questions raised by our kind-hearted,  clear
 headed and forthright doctor friend are not being answered by any one on
 this enlightened list!


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349




 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dr Jalaja
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:53 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census

 Hello,
   It is very clear that in the N P R form there is no column
 mentioning disability andin my knowledge   the details taken in NP R is
 coming in the U I D which is used for many purposes.My question is after
 this procedure where disability is getting included?
  Regards--Dr.Jalaja


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Re: [AI] disability field in sensus

2010-04-18 Thread rahul cherian
Hi all,

I agree with Jignesh. What is necessary is a separate disability
certificate.

Best regards,

Rahul

On 18 April 2010 11:30, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Sirs,
 If person has any disease such high BP, and he doesn’t mansion on the
 card, it does mean that he is trying to escape from the problem, or he
 or she is hiding something from the world, or he or she is Acting like
 an ostrich
 Sorry to say but I don’t see any benefit of writing disability on the
 card. It will simply destroy our chances of expectance at many places.
 Without manssioning disability at least we will have an opportunity to
 prove ourself. I think my example of trading account is enough. And I
 strongly believe that many of you have experienced the same at some
 point.
 At the same time we should have separate disability card, so we can
 produce it where ever it necessary.
 Let me tell you again that I am not trying to hurt anybody. I am
 learning from you all.
 Thanks.


 On 4/18/10, sandeep singh sandeepsingh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello all,
  Acting like an ostrich will not do. If we are disabled in some way,
  we have to acknowledge it and if others don't, well, that's what we
  are fighting for! If we keep being afraid of being disabled, the
  world won't care anyway.
  Regards,
  Sandeep
 
  At 12:11 AM 18-04-10, you wrote:
 Sir,
 In our country many people consider disability as like asirias crime.
 There is a question of expectance, if the disability would menssion on
 the card, our lots of application and other things will rejected
 automatically. We live in the country where people have not much
 respect for disable person.
 My point is that the disability on the card will not give us a chanse
 to prove ourself at many places. For example once I submitted my
 documents for trading account, the company expected it willingly, but
 when we had face to face meeting for formalities, he realized that I
 am visually impaired person, and he suddenly rejected my application.
 How ever I could convince him to give me his services. If I had
 produced disability card at that time the result might have different.
 That's why I am against it.
 Though vamshisir and other are more intelligent they can thing far
 better than me. I am just writing my thoughts.
 Thanks.
 
 
 On 4/17/10, raghuraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com wrote:
   friends, i really couldnt understand the outlook of a few of our
  friends who
   doesn't like the disability field in u i d card
   actually speaking, we are of course disabled and it must be
  acknowledged and
   accepted just as a teacher is a teacher and a lawyer is a lawyer
   moreover, by not including the disability field in the u i d card
  we need to
   use different forms or cards to get our different benifits
   also i heard that in fact the n p r performa doesn't  have disability
   field
   is it right
   if so, what are the steps have we taken to resolve these problems
   please explain
   cheers raghu
  
  
  
  
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Re: [AI] disability field in sensus

2010-04-18 Thread rahul cherian
Subramani,

My concern is rather different, and not due the fact that I have a negative
opinion about disability. My concern is more about profiling. For example,
India does not have an non-discrimination law that prohibits the private
sector from discrimination on the basis of disability. Now, keep in mind
that we will live in a world where, as you rightly put it, the world at
large views people with disability as people with lesser capability. As
more and more services can be procured online, it is entirely possible that
the private sector may stop providing services to people with disability
(since they view this group as a higher risk) especially where services can
be purchased online and payment made later with credit cards etc.

Another extreme example where the UID would be problematic. In Hitler's
Germany, all the Jews were initially required to wear yellow stars on their
clothing to be identified easily. Later, it became easy to send Jews to
concentration camps because of the profiling done earlier. I am not saying
that in this day and age people with disability are going to be gassed. But
I am somehow not comfortable with this information being available publicly.
I feel the same way about my religion (or in my case the lack of it:-),
earnings and other personal details. All this falls within the ambit of
information I consider private and I should have the option to disclose this
information and this information should not be automatically available
publicly.

Cheers,

Rahul

On 18 April 2010 15:27, Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in wrote:

 I think this is a very negative self image of ourselves. If a person can
 feel comfortable about a particular religion, caste or any other
 identity, why can't we feel comfortable about our disabilities? One of
 the reasons why we are not understood properly by others is that we
 always try and disown our condition or hide it from others. By hiding we
 are not going to be accepted by the world; on the contrary, we will be
 rejected thoroughly since we subtly tell them that disability is not
 such an acceptable condition (or) I am different and I want to hide that
 fact. I don't know if this is what you tried telling in the below mail,
 but I find such discomfort almost in every disabled person I meet. I
 often try telling them that feeling uncomfortable about their identity
 will always tell others that they have a poor self esteem. Like how
 Africans defined blackness with the phrase Black is beautiful I
 wouldn't mind telling people that blindness has its own beauty and
 serenity We are not exactly conveying our equality with others by
 merely talking about our rights, we do that only by making others
 understand that we are like them in every other aspects. So if I want to
 announce my disability to convey my different'ness and also express the
 desire to be a part of the greater humanity, I shall do that. I remember
 posting a poem by Ben Okary called 'To an English friend in Africa' in
 which he says: ... So fear not my friend, the darkness is gentler than
 you think. This is what I mean by being at ease about our condition in
 life.

 Subramani



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of jignesh
 thakur
 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:31 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] disability field in sensus

 Dear Sirs,
 If person has any disease such high BP, and he doesn't mansion on the
 card, it does mean that he is trying to escape from the problem, or he
 or she is hiding something from the world, or he or she is Acting like
 an ostrich
 Sorry to say but I don't see any benefit of writing disability on the
 card. It will simply destroy our chances of expectance at many places.
 Without manssioning disability at least we will have an opportunity to
 prove ourself. I think my example of trading account is enough. And I
 strongly believe that many of you have experienced the same at some
 point.
 At the same time we should have separate disability card, so we can
 produce it where ever it necessary.
 Let me tell you again that I am not trying to hurt anybody. I am
 learning from you all.
 Thanks.


 On 4/18/10, sandeep singh sandeepsingh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello all,
  Acting like an ostrich will not do. If we are disabled in some way,
  we have to acknowledge it and if others don't, well, that's what we
  are fighting for! If we keep being afraid of being disabled, the
  world won't care anyway.
  Regards,
  Sandeep
 
  At 12:11 AM 18-04-10, you wrote:
 Sir,
 In our country many people consider disability as like asirias crime.
 There is a question of expectance, if the disability would menssion on
 the card, our lots of application and other things will rejected
 automatically. We live in the country where people have not much
 respect for disable person.
 My point is that the disability on the card will not give us a chanse
 

Re: [AI] Copyright Amendment

2010-04-17 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Amar, Akhilesh, and others who are interested

Both are great ideas. Please tweet and comment about this as much as
possible. Also, please send emails and letters to all the channels and
journalists you have access to. Do let me know if you need any information
or documents from my end for you to send to the journalists.

Best regards,

Rahul

On 17 April 2010 13:11, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:

 In my view we can also send emails or letters to big channels like zee news
 cnn ibn. And can hope for positive response.
 These are my personal views intellectuals can think on it and can act
 according to their wisdom.
 We all hope for positive outcome.
 Amar Jain.
 --
 From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:06 PM

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright Amendment


  Hello mr. Rahul and all, personally I'd like to encourage the comments
 from all of us on these stories that are coming up on different sites.
 the comment section as we all know, is located at the end of the story.
 I've comment on the post that appeared on hindu yesturday.
 Our comments will surely encourage the journalists more, and
 undoubtedly we can get more support from them.
 so please start commenting/tweeting. It'll also show that how much
 we're serious towards this bill.
 we can also encourage our sited friends to comment on such stories as
 well!!!
 Please let me know your intentions.
 Thanks,
 Akhilesh.




 On 4/16/10, Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in wrote:

 Folks:

 My newspaper's website isn't particularly accessible, but I have been
 writing on this issue almost daily. Pl acess my newspaper's site
 www.deccanherald.com and add it to the list as well.

 Subramani



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
 cherian
 Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:06 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Copyright Amendment

 Hi everyone,

 Momentum is building against the copyright amendment. 3 newspaper
 articles
 given below:
 http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article397573.ece
 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/activists-oppose-discriminatory-amendm
 ent-to-copyright-act/607205/
 http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_right-to-education-will-remain-a-d
 ream_1371926

 http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_right-to-education-will-remain-a-
 dream_1371926You
 can help by contacting MPs and journalists.

 Best regards,

 Rahul

 On 16 April 2010 09:41, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 wrote:

  For that matter, I have never been able to make sense of any raised
 graphics in braille.
 Options can be to audiodescribe such videos, I am sure that will add

 erotic

 value for sighted as well.
 Besides, extracting video from them would also serve a limited

 purposs.

 Specialized audio production in this behalf ought to be taken up.
 One hindi movie had employed  audio erotic imagery  in scenes instead

 of

 visuals to bypass the censor, I do not remember the name.


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

   --Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shyam M.

 Sayanekar

 Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:39 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] the porn magazine story..that appeared ystrday...

 Such books and magazines will serve the purpose only if the pictures

 are

 three dimentional. I have seen some two dimentional pictures, but they

 do

 not make much sense.
 Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
 Telephone: 0251-2438457
 Mobile: +91 9920410788
 Skype ID- sayanekar
 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] the porn magazine story..that appeared ystrday...


 I wholeheartedly endorse the development, only thing is the magazine

 is

 quite costly.
  Any leads in India?!!!
  To reiterate my stand, I do not tie accessibility with legality, and
  disability with any obligation to be ultra-moral.
  The reason for posting this message here after the storm that blew

 last

  year over the issue, is that AI is discussing accessibility, so I do
 opine
  that it should take broad and wide perspective of accessibility.
  However, any further discussion on this must be subject to

 moderator's

  Approval or otherwise,
 
 
  Regards
 
  Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to

 create

  Him.
 
 --Arthur C. Clarke
 
  (Rajesh Asudani)
 
  Assistant General Manager

Re: [AI] disability and census

2010-04-17 Thread rahul cherian
I think that having disability as one of the fields in the UID will be
violative of my right to privacy and could lead to discrimination. I am
against it.

On 17 April 2010 20:44, ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friend,

 Only because it will serve as an all-in-all identity card. We will not have
 carry different cards for different purposes. Sypanthy is not an issue at
 all.

 - - -
 Ashik Hirani
 Landline phone: 02849-242233
 Skype: ashikali.hirani
 I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace.
 - Original Message - From: jignesh thakur 
 jigneshthaku...@gmail.com

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:03 PM

 Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census


 Friends,
 This is just my opinion. Why we want to include disability in uid
 card? Our identity is only disability? Lots of will have to suffer
 because of the label disable on the card. General information is
 enough. To mansion disability is just issue. And it will only for
 meaningless sympathy.
 Let me tell you again this is just my opinion. I don’t want to hurt
 anybody. There are lots of intelligent friends are on the list, and
 they know more than me.
 Thanks.


 On 4/17/10, ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes doctor. I think disability must be mentioned in the proposed UID card.
 And I regret to say that the procedure for the UID card does not include
 the
 mention of disability. So, it can be safely concluded that disability will
 not be mentioned in the UID card. It's a sad story indeed. Proper
 representation should be maded to the government and we should pressurize
 it
 to include disability as one of the thins in the UID card.
 - - -
 Ashik Hirani
 Landline phone: 02849-242233
 Skype: ashikali.hirani
 I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census


  Hello sir,
   I am also wondering why the list members are remaining
 silent in this matter. .Let us wait and see what will happen after
 completing all the procedures, and when things are out of our hands
 nothing can be done . it is better to take proper notification right now
  With regardsDr.Jalaja


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Re: [AI] disability and census

2010-04-17 Thread rahul cherian
Let me put it this way. Would you be ok if your religion or you caste were
on the UID? What if you are a minority community living in a state like
Gujarat and riots like the Godhra riots happened? Would you want to be
easily identified based on your religion? My concern with disability being
one of the parameters is something similar. I am sure this comes across as
me being paranoid but I think that having disability as one of the
parameters could lead to abuse of the information to the detriment of
persons with disabilities.

Vamshi, what you want is a multipurpose certificate of disability which you
can use, at your option, I repeat, at your option to avail of benefits.

I confess that I have not done much research into this area so please
correct me if I am wrong.

Cheers,

Rahul

On 17 April 2010 22:25, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:

 But if having disability as one of the fields in the UID exempts me
 from carrying a separate disability certificate, railway concession
 certificate, bus travel concession
 card etc. , and enables me to book all tickets on line by providing
 the UID number, and I'm provided with all the benefits I'm entitled to
 without me requiring to go through the cumbersome procedures, I would
 rather prefer to have it.

 --
 G. Vamshi
 PH Res : +91 877-2243861
 Mobile: +91 9949349497
 E-mail ID:
 gvamsh...@gmail.com
 Skype: gvamshi81

 www.retinaindia.org
 From darkness unto light


 On 4/17/10, rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com wrote:
  I think that having disability as one of the fields in the UID will be
  violative of my right to privacy and could lead to discrimination. I am
  against it.
 
  On 17 April 2010 20:44, ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear Friend,
 
  Only because it will serve as an all-in-all identity card. We will not
  have
  carry different cards for different purposes. Sypanthy is not an issue
 at
  all.
 
  - - -
  Ashik Hirani
  Landline phone: 02849-242233
  Skype: ashikali.hirani
  I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace.
  - Original Message - From: jignesh thakur 
  jigneshthaku...@gmail.com
 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:03 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census
 
 
  Friends,
  This is just my opinion. Why we want to include disability in uid
  card? Our identity is only disability? Lots of will have to suffer
  because of the label disable on the card. General information is
  enough. To mansion disability is just issue. And it will only for
  meaningless sympathy.
  Let me tell you again this is just my opinion. I don’t want to hurt
  anybody. There are lots of intelligent friends are on the list, and
  they know more than me.
  Thanks.
 
 
  On 4/17/10, ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Yes doctor. I think disability must be mentioned in the proposed UID
  card.
  And I regret to say that the procedure for the UID card does not
 include
  the
  mention of disability. So, it can be safely concluded that disability
  will
  not be mentioned in the UID card. It's a sad story indeed. Proper
  representation should be maded to the government and we should
 pressurize
  it
  to include disability as one of the thins in the UID card.
  - - -
  Ashik Hirani
  Landline phone: 02849-242233
  Skype: ashikali.hirani
  I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace.
  - Original Message -
  From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census
 
 
   Hello sir,
I am also wondering why the list members are remaining
  silent in this matter. .Let us wait and see what will happen after
  completing all the procedures, and when things are out of our hands
  nothing can be done . it is better to take proper notification right
 now
   With regardsDr.Jalaja
 
 
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Re: [AI] the porn magazine story..that appeared ystrday...

2010-04-15 Thread rahul cherian
I agree that this is a good development but Indian obscenity laws are
antiquated and it remains to be seen whether one would be able to buy this
in India.

On 15 April 2010 23:39, Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Such books and magazines will serve the purpose only if the pictures are
 three dimentional. I have seen some two dimentional pictures, but they do
 not make much sense.
 Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
 Telephone: 0251-2438457
 Mobile: +91 9920410788
 Skype ID- sayanekar
 - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh 
 rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] the porn magazine story..that appeared ystrday...



  I wholeheartedly endorse the development, only thing is the magazine is
 quite costly.
 Any leads in India?!!!
 To reiterate my stand, I do not tie accessibility with legality, and
 disability with any obligation to be ultra-moral.
 The reason for posting this message here after the storm that blew last
 year over the issue, is that AI is discussing accessibility, so I do opine
 that it should take broad and wide perspective of accessibility.
 However, any further discussion on this must be subject to moderator's
 Approval or otherwise,


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

   --Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349




 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
 Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:23 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] FW: the porn magazine story..that appeared ystrday...

 Times of India, Mumbai, April 14, 2010
 London: A pornographic magazine has been designed to be 'enjoyed' by the
 blind and visually impaired - complete with explicit text and raised
 pictures of naked men and women.
 You may also want to see
 * Hugh Hefner ready to settle down for
 good
 http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_hugh-hefner-ready-to-settle-down-for-good_1370882
 
 * US porn performer plans to run for the
 Senate as a Republican
 http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_us-porn-performer-plans-to-run-for-the-senate-as-a-republican_1368427
 
 * Tiger Woods's newest porn mistress in
 torrid threesome claim
 http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_tiger-woods-s-newest-porn-mistress-in-torrid-threesome-claim_1362711
 
 * David Beckham 'sent X-rated text
 messages to Rebecca Loos'
 http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_david-beckham-sent-x-rated-text-messages-to-rebecca-loos_1362133
 
 * Savita Bhabhi comes to life
 http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_savita-bhabhi-comes-to-life_1360365
 
 Brainchild of Canadian Lisa Murphy, Tactile Minds is on sale for 150
 pounds, reports The Telegraph.
 Among the 17 raised images include a naked woman in a 'disco pose', a
 woman with 'perfect breasts' and a 'male love robot'.
 Lisa says, There are no books of tactile pictures of nudes for adults.
 We're breaking new ground. Playboy has an edition with Braille wording,
 but there are no pictures.
 The author came up with the idea after realizing that the 'blind have been
 left out in a culture saturated with sexual images'.


 
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[AI] Copyright Amendment

2010-04-15 Thread rahul cherian
Hi everyone,

Momentum is building against the copyright amendment. 3 newspaper articles
given below:
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article397573.ece
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/activists-oppose-discriminatory-amendment-to-copyright-act/607205/
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_right-to-education-will-remain-a-dream_1371926

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_right-to-education-will-remain-a-dream_1371926You
can help by contacting MPs and journalists.

Best regards,

Rahul

On 16 April 2010 09:41, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 For that matter, I have never been able to make sense of any raised
 graphics in braille.
 Options can be to audiodescribe such videos, I am sure that will add erotic
 value for sighted as well.
 Besides, extracting video from them would also serve a limited purposs.
 Specialized audio production in this behalf ought to be taken up.
 One hindi movie had employed  audio erotic imagery  in scenes instead of
 visuals to bypass the censor, I do not remember the name.


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shyam M. Sayanekar
 Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:39 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] the porn magazine story..that appeared ystrday...

 Such books and magazines will serve the purpose only if the pictures are
 three dimentional. I have seen some two dimentional pictures, but they do
 not make much sense.
 Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
 Telephone: 0251-2438457
 Mobile: +91 9920410788
 Skype ID- sayanekar
 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] the porn magazine story..that appeared ystrday...


 I wholeheartedly endorse the development, only thing is the magazine is
 quite costly.
  Any leads in India?!!!
  To reiterate my stand, I do not tie accessibility with legality, and
  disability with any obligation to be ultra-moral.
  The reason for posting this message here after the storm that blew last
  year over the issue, is that AI is discussing accessibility, so I do
 opine
  that it should take broad and wide perspective of accessibility.
  However, any further discussion on this must be subject to moderator's
  Approval or otherwise,
 
 
  Regards
 
  Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
  Him.
 
 --Arthur C. Clarke
 
  (Rajesh Asudani)
 
  Assistant General Manager,
  Reserve Bank of India
  Nagpur
  09420397185
  O: 0712 2806676
  Res: 0712 2591349
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
  Rajesh
  Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:23 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: [AI] FW: the porn magazine story..that appeared ystrday...
 
  Times of India, Mumbai, April 14, 2010
  London: A pornographic magazine has been designed to be 'enjoyed' by the
  blind and visually impaired - complete with explicit text and raised
  pictures of naked men and women.
  You may also want to see
  * Hugh Hefner ready to settle down for
  good
 http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_hugh-hefner-ready-to-settle-down-for-good_1370882
 
  * US porn performer plans to run for the
  Senate as a
  Republican
 http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_us-porn-performer-plans-to-run-for-the-senate-as-a-republican_1368427
 
  * Tiger Woods's newest porn mistress in
  torrid threesome
  claim
 http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_tiger-woods-s-newest-porn-mistress-in-torrid-threesome-claim_1362711
 
  * David Beckham 'sent X-rated text
  messages to Rebecca
  Loos'
 http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_david-beckham-sent-x-rated-text-messages-to-rebecca-loos_1362133
 
  * Savita Bhabhi comes to
  life
 http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_savita-bhabhi-comes-to-life_1360365
 
  Brainchild of Canadian Lisa Murphy, Tactile Minds is on sale for 150
  pounds, reports The Telegraph.
  Among the 17 raised images include a naked woman in a 'disco pose', a
  woman with 'perfect breasts' and a 'male love robot'.
  Lisa says, There are no books of tactile pictures of nudes for adults.
  We're breaking new ground. Playboy has an edition with Braille wording,
  but there are no pictures.
  The author came up with the idea after realizing that the 'blind have
 been
  left out in a culture 

Re: [AI] Copyright

2010-04-10 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Vamshi and others interested in taking up this issue,

I have attached a note prepared by the National Access Alliance which
you can use for MPs. This will give the background, the issue with the
proposed amendment, the solution proposed by the National Alliance and how
MPs can support this cause.

We preparing a press release which will be finalised on Monday. We will send
this to you as soon as it is finalised

Sam, can you send Vamshi the Mumbai Press Invite? The Chennai Invite is not
finalised yet.

Do let us know if your require any further information or assistance for
each one of you to take up this issue in your city/district/state.

Rahul Cherian


On 10 April 2010 18:39, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear legal fraternity,

 I'm seriously trying to contact the local MP and media.

 Can one of you draft a letter which I can give as a requisition or
 representation.  I can only orally say that all books should be
 accessible to visually challenged people.

 I know one of the national media in my town.  Can anyone give me an
 article or something similar to that which I can try to publish in
 your name?  Sorry if I have not sounded good.

 --
 G. Vamshi
 PH Res : +91 877-2243861
 Mobile: +91 9949349497
 E-mail ID:
 gvamsh...@gmail.com
 Skype: gvamshi81

 God helps those who help themselves



 On 4/9/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
  Dear Rahul
  Does Section 52 (1) (za) as proposed in amendments constitute an
 exemption
  to copyright?
  There is also section 31B for organizations where Section 52 (1) (za):
 does
  not apply.
  Please also clarify to or by whom Section 52 (1) (za): talks of
 reproduction
  of works in specialized format, whether by individuals or institutions?
  I believe if Section 52 (1) (za): constitutes and exemption to copyright,
  and said section does not specifically refer to organizations, then the
  only,  or at any rate major quarrel we have with proposed amendments is
 that
  format may not be necessarily specialized, but an accessible format along
  with due safeguards  is what we want, right?
  Besides, formalities of obtaining license from copyright board are what
 we
  are worried about.
  We may also contemplate an obligation on government bodies and bring out
  books in accessible format simultaneously with their normal formats.
  I am just trying to clarify our standpoint before conveying to media or
 any
  authorities.
 
 
 
  Regards
 
  Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.
 
  --Arthur C. Clarke
 
  (Rajesh Asudani)
 
  Assistant General Manager,
  Reserve Bank of India
  Nagpur
  09420397185
  O: 0712 2806676
  Res: 0712 2591349
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
 cherian
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:10 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
 
  Hi Rajesh,
 
  The amendment approved by Cabinet is given below.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Rahul
 
  Section 52 (1) (za): The reproduction, issue of copies or communication
 to
  the public of any work in a format, including sign language, *specially
  designed only** *for the use of persons suffering from a visual, aural or
  other disability that prevents their enjoyment of such works in their
 normal
  format.
 
  Section 31B (1): An organization, registered under section 12A of the
 income
  tax act, 1961 (act 43 of 1961) and working primarily for the benefit of
  persons with disability, and recognized under chapter X of the persons
 with
  disabilities (equal opportunities, protection of rights and full
  participation) act, 1995 (act 1 of 1996) may apply to the Copyright
 Board,
  in such form as may be prescribed, for a compulsory license to publish
 any
  work in which copyright subsists for the benefit of such persons, in a
 case
  to which clause (za) of subsection (1) of section 52 does not apply, and
 the
  Copyright Board shall dispose of such application within three months.
 
  (2) The Copyright Board may, upon receiving an application under
 subsection
  (1) inquire, or direct such inquiry as it necessary, to establish the
  credentials of the applicant and satisfy itself that the application has
  been made in good faith.
 
  (3) If the Copyright Board is satisfied, after giving to the owners of
  rights in the work a reasonable opportunity of being heard and after
 holding
  such inquiry as it may deem necessary, that a compulsory license needs to
 be
  issued to make the work available to the disabled, it may direct the
  Registrar of Copyrights to grant to the applicant such a license to
 publish
  the work.
 
  (4) Every compulsory license issued under this section shall specify the
  means and format of publication, the period during which the compulsory
  license may be exercised and, in the case of issue of copies, the number

Re: [AI] Copyright

2010-04-10 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Vamshi and others interested in taking up this issue,

Not sure if you got my earlier email on this.

The National Access Alliance has prepared a note on this issue which you can
use for MPs. This note will give the background, the issue with the proposed
amendment, the solution proposed by the National Alliance and how MPs can
support this cause. I have uploaded this note on
http://inclusiveplanet.com/en/book/518001

We have a draft press release which you can use for journalists. Please note
that the date for the dharna/rally is not finalised yet and will be
finalised on Monday. If anyone requires this press release do let us know.

Sam, can you send Vamshi the Mumbai Press Invite? The Chennai Invite is not
finalised yet.

Do let us know if your require any further information or assistance for
each one of you to take up this issue in your city/district/state.

Rahul Cherian

On 10 April 2010 18:39, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear legal fraternity,

 I'm seriously trying to contact the local MP and media.

 Can one of you draft a letter which I can give as a requisition or
 representation.  I can only orally say that all books should be
 accessible to visually challenged people.

 I know one of the national media in my town.  Can anyone give me an
 article or something similar to that which I can try to publish in
 your name?  Sorry if I have not sounded good.

 --
 G. Vamshi
 PH Res : +91 877-2243861
 Mobile: +91 9949349497
 E-mail ID:
 gvamsh...@gmail.com
 Skype: gvamshi81

 God helps those who help themselves






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Re: [AI] Copyright

2010-04-09 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Rajesh,

Section 52(1) (za) will constitute an exemption to copyright. There is no
restriction on who (whether organisations or individuals) can convert into
specialised formats. The restriction on who can convert to mainstream
formats is covered under Section 31 B.

Yes, the primary concerns are formats (all formats should be permitted) and
who can concert and distribute in these formats (everyone should be
permitted provided they make sure that measures are taken to ensure that it
is done for the intended beneficiary). I think Kanchan has explained the
issue in her follow up mail.

Best regards,

Rahul

On 9 April 2010 15:08, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Dear Rahul
 Does Section 52 (1) (za) as proposed in amendments constitute an exemption
 to copyright?
 There is also section 31B for organizations where Section 52 (1) (za): does
 not apply.
 Please also clarify to or by whom Section 52 (1) (za): talks of
 reproduction of works in specialized format, whether by individuals or
 institutions?
 I believe if Section 52 (1) (za): constitutes and exemption to copyright,
 and said section does not specifically refer to organizations, then the
 only,  or at any rate major quarrel we have with proposed amendments is that
 format may not be necessarily specialized, but an accessible format along
 with due safeguards  is what we want, right?
 Besides, formalities of obtaining license from copyright board are what we
 are worried about.
 We may also contemplate an obligation on government bodies and bring out
 books in accessible format simultaneously with their normal formats.
 I am just trying to clarify our standpoint before conveying to media or any
 authorities.



 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul cherian
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:10 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright

 Hi Rajesh,

 The amendment approved by Cabinet is given below.

 Best regards,

 Rahul

 Section 52 (1) (za): The reproduction, issue of copies or communication to
 the public of any work in a format, including sign language, *specially
 designed only** *for the use of persons suffering from a visual, aural or
 other disability that prevents their enjoyment of such works in their
 normal
 format.

 Section 31B (1): An organization, registered under section 12A of the
 income
 tax act, 1961 (act 43 of 1961) and working primarily for the benefit of
 persons with disability, and recognized under chapter X of the persons with
 disabilities (equal opportunities, protection of rights and full
 participation) act, 1995 (act 1 of 1996) may apply to the Copyright Board,
 in such form as may be prescribed, for a compulsory license to publish any
 work in which copyright subsists for the benefit of such persons, in a case
 to which clause (za) of subsection (1) of section 52 does not apply, and
 the
 Copyright Board shall dispose of such application within three months.

 (2) The Copyright Board may, upon receiving an application under subsection
 (1) inquire, or direct such inquiry as it necessary, to establish the
 credentials of the applicant and satisfy itself that the application has
 been made in good faith.

 (3) If the Copyright Board is satisfied, after giving to the owners of
 rights in the work a reasonable opportunity of being heard and after
 holding
 such inquiry as it may deem necessary, that a compulsory license needs to
 be
 issued to make the work available to the disabled, it may direct the
 Registrar of Copyrights to grant to the applicant such a license to publish
 the work.

 (4) Every compulsory license issued under this section shall specify the
 means and format of publication, the period during which the compulsory
 license may be exercised and, in the case of issue of copies, the number of
 copies that may be issued.
 Provided that where the Board has issued such a compulsory license, it may
 on further application and after giving reasonable opportunity to the owner
 of the rights, extend the period of such compulsory license and allow the
 issue of more copies as it may deem fit.

 (5) The Copyright Board may specify the number of copies that may be
 published without payment of royalty and the fix the rate of royalty for
 the
 remaining copies.


 On 8 April 2010 17:51, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

  Please repost the amendment approved by cabinet.
  I can not seem to locate it, though I have commented on it in past in
 this
  very group.
 
 
  Regards
 
  Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
  Him

Re: [AI] Copyright

2010-04-08 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Rajesh,

The amendment approved by Cabinet is given below.

Best regards,

Rahul

Section 52 (1) (za): The reproduction, issue of copies or communication to
the public of any work in a format, including sign language, *specially
designed only** *for the use of persons suffering from a visual, aural or
other disability that prevents their enjoyment of such works in their normal
format.

Section 31B (1): An organization, registered under section 12A of the income
tax act, 1961 (act 43 of 1961) and working primarily for the benefit of
persons with disability, and recognized under chapter X of the persons with
disabilities (equal opportunities, protection of rights and full
participation) act, 1995 (act 1 of 1996) may apply to the Copyright Board,
in such form as may be prescribed, for a compulsory license to publish any
work in which copyright subsists for the benefit of such persons, in a case
to which clause (za) of subsection (1) of section 52 does not apply, and the
Copyright Board shall dispose of such application within three months.

(2) The Copyright Board may, upon receiving an application under subsection
(1) inquire, or direct such inquiry as it necessary, to establish the
credentials of the applicant and satisfy itself that the application has
been made in good faith.

(3) If the Copyright Board is satisfied, after giving to the owners of
rights in the work a reasonable opportunity of being heard and after holding
such inquiry as it may deem necessary, that a compulsory license needs to be
issued to make the work available to the disabled, it may direct the
Registrar of Copyrights to grant to the applicant such a license to publish
the work.

(4) Every compulsory license issued under this section shall specify the
means and format of publication, the period during which the compulsory
license may be exercised and, in the case of issue of copies, the number of
copies that may be issued.
Provided that where the Board has issued such a compulsory license, it may
on further application and after giving reasonable opportunity to the owner
of the rights, extend the period of such compulsory license and allow the
issue of more copies as it may deem fit.

(5) The Copyright Board may specify the number of copies that may be
published without payment of royalty and the fix the rate of royalty for the
remaining copies.


On 8 April 2010 17:51, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Please repost the amendment approved by cabinet.
 I can not seem to locate it, though I have commented on it in past in this
 very group.


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:54 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright

 Am working on a report based on your mail.

 Subramani



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:38 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright

 Nobody leading the Hyderabad charge as yet.But need to coordinate with
 as
 many organisations. Will you be able to organise the dharna, press
 conference or get some press or contact your MPS.
 MPS are at home till about 14th after which they will be in Delhi. So
 folks
 we need to work on this issue immediately.
 K
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: payal kapoor payal.thereside...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright


  k
 
  what is happening out of hyderabad? any persons here yet?
  - Original Message -
  From: Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
 
 
  Akhilesh,
  1. Any press is good press at the moment. Print media or channel does
 not
  matter. We are all trying for some coordination in Delhi and we would

  also want local media.The more the merrier the more varied the
 better.
  If you have a contact please let us know.
  2. I know about the exams-lets see when they are really going to
 table it
  in Parliament. If at that time you can come and join for even a
 couple of
  hours it will be good.
  3. You cant file for an injunction at this stage. You have to wait
 till
  the Act is passed and then you can challenge its consitutionality.
 
  Kanchan Pamnani
  Advocate  Solicitor
  9, Suleman Chambers,
  Battery Street, Colaba,
  Mumbai - 400 039.

Re: [AI] How to disable jaws help?

2010-04-08 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Prashant,

I think exploring technology is an extremely important part of development
of any kid so I feel he should be encouraged to do this. Of course, some
time should be set aside for studies.

Rahul

On 9 April 2010 10:53, Prashant Naik pran...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi pranav,

 this was one interesting query i got from one parent.  her kid keeps
 opening jaws help, config manger and so on instead of working on the
 current document in his school.

 prashant

 On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:
  Prashant,
 
  What is the problem that you are trying to solve? You can block access to
  the executable files of some jaws features but I am not sure about that.
 
  Pranav
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] separate judiciary

2010-03-23 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Himalaya,

The problem you mentioned is applicable for all issues, not only those
related to disability. Such is the state of our judicial system. But your
idea of a fast track court to hear disability issues alone is an interesting
one. There is merit in the argument that persons with disability require
action quicker that the rest of the country but I think it will be difficult
to get this implemented. Another option may be to give sensitization
training to the judiciary. This should also be explored. I suspect that this
may be easier to implement.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
InclusivePlanet.com

On 23 March 2010 12:55, himalaya singh Rawat
himalayasinghra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear friends,

 very often do we see that people sitting on judiciary dont understnad
 disabled persons at all and pass on ridiculous decision, and once in a
 thousand decisions it is challenged. demanding a country would be entirely
 against the inclusion but can we demand a judiciary wherer disabled people
 are heard properly.
 an employee fights for years and years just to prove that he can work after
 losing eyes.
 a student has to prove that he can study even without eyes.
 a person has to prove to everybody that he can compete with the sighted
 world.

 can we fight for this? what are the options availabel/

 expect your replies.

 thanks

 Himalaya


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Re: [AI] regardin copywrite issue

2010-03-12 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Harish,

Kindly check India's leading copyright law discussion forum
spicyipindia.blogspot.com. the specific link is
http://spicyipindia.blogspot.com/2010/02/andhakanoon-obtuse-copyright-exception.html
The proposed wording is obtained from there and is therefore in the public
domain.

Best regards,

Rahul

On 12 March 2010 14:15, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Dear Rahul

 Is the material you have reproduced in public domain? I suppose not, as  it
 is still in the consideration of the government. In that case, I suppose it
 may not be right to discuss in a public space like ours.

 Harish Kotian.

 From: rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com
 To: raghuraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com,
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] regardin copywrite issue
 ear Raghu,

 After much campaigning by rights groups and a meeting that we had with Mr.
 Kapil Sibal, the HRD Ministry has proposed the following wording for the
 copyright amendment:



 *Section 52 (1) (za)**: The reproduction, issue of copies or communication
 to the public of any work in a format, including sign language, specially
 designed only for the use of persons suffering from a visual, aural or other
 disability that prevents their enjoyment of such works in their normal
 format.* *

 Section 31B (1):** An organization, registered under section 12A of the
 income tax act, 1961 (act 43 of 1961) and working primarily for the benefit
 of persons with disability, and recognized under chapter X of the persons
 with disabilities (equal opportunities, protection of rights and full
 participation) act, 1995 (act 1 of 1996) may apply to the Copyright Board,
 in such form as may be prescribed, for a compulsory license to publish any
 work in which copyright subsists for the benefit of such persons, in a case
 to which clause (za) of subsection (1) of section 52 does not apply, and the
 Copyright Board shall dispose of such application within three months.*

 *(2) The Copyright Board may, upon receiving an application under
 subsection
 (1) inquire, or direct such inquiry as it necessary, to establish the
 credentials of the applicant and satisfy itself that the application has
 been made in good faith.

 (3) If the Copyright Board is satisfied, after giving to the owners of
 rights in the work a reasonable opportunity of being heard and after holding
 such inquiry as it may deem necessary, that a compulsory license needs to be
 issued to make the work available to the disabled, it may direct the
 Registrar of Copyrights to grant to the applicant such a license to publish
 the work.

 (4) Every compulsory license issued under this section shall specify the
 means and format of publication, the period during which the compulsory
 license may be exercised and, in the case of issue of copies, the number of
 copies that may be issued.

 Provided that where the Board has issued such a compulsory license, it may
 on further application and after giving reasonable opportunity to the owner
 of the rights, extend the period of such compulsory license and allow the
 issue of more copies as it may deem fit.

 (5) The Copyright Board may specify the number of copies that may be
 published without payment of royalty and the fix the rate of royalty for the
 remaining copies.* The abovementioned amendment is flawed for the following
 reasons:



 i.*Use of special formats:* The exception extends only
 to ?specially designed? formats such as Braille and would really benefit
 only a part of the disabled community. Those affected by dyslexia, cerebral
 palsy, low vision and other physical disabilities and the late blind would
 require audio, reading material with large fonts and electronic texts. As
 these are not formats specially aimed at a disabled group they?re not
 included in the exception. In other words, more than half of India?s
 disabled would be forced to pay royalties to merely access the information
 that is freely available to those persons who can work with special formats.
 This violates the guarantee of equality under Article 14 of the
 Constitution of India, since it discriminates between those persons with
 disabilities who are able to work with special formats and those for whom
 the special formats make no sense. Even otherwise, by failing to institute a
 meaningful copyright exception that would enable access to many educational
 materials by the disabled, the State has failed in its duty to guarantee a
 meaningful right to life guaranteed under Article 21 of the Constitution of
 India.



 ii.  *Provision to extend only to organizations primarily
 working in the field of disability: *Even upon payment, compulsory
 licensing of the copyrighted work is permitted only to those organizations
 working primarily for the benefit of the disabled. Not only does this
 exclude educational institutions such as Delhi University, Xavier?s College
 Mumbai, Loyola College, Chennai and many other

Re: [AI] regardin copywrite issue

2010-03-11 Thread rahul cherian
. At the present
this has already been happening for years. But if the amendment slashes down
the already limited resources by disallowing academic institutions and
voluntary sector from undertaking conversions, then the burden on the
organizations would be too much for them to successfully manage the timely
dissemination of accessible books, resulting in a complete collapse of the
system. Waiting periods, even if for upto two months, would go a long way in
slowing down progress of children.


Rights groups are working together to see what options are available to
change the proposed wording so that it addresses the legitimate concerns of
persons with disabilities.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
InclusivePlanet.com

On 12 March 2010 09:12, raghuraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 friends i have already asked about the copywrite issue.
 but i havent so far recieved any info on this regard
 could someone tell whether there is any development in this issue
 also i heard that we couldnt use our concession in torento sathapthi and
 garibrath trains.
 are there steps taken from our side to make this available?
 please tell.
 cheers raghu


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Re: [AI] regardin copywrite issue

2010-03-11 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Rajesh,

You are right. Section 32 comes into play in instances where Section 52 does
not apply.

Rahul

On 12 March 2010 11:16, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 No, George, I don't think so.
 Section 52)1  ZA), I think lays an exemption from copyright, and section 32
 about compulsory license comes into play when that exemption is not
 applicable to a book, meaning that reproduction is in a form other than
 contemplated in section 52.
 Anyway, I require a detailed brief to comment any further.


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349




 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:18 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] regardin copywrite issue

 plus, every time you need a book it seems that we have to apply for a
 license.

 - Original Message -
 From: rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com
 To: raghuraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com;
 accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] regardin copywrite issue


 Dear Raghu,

 After much campaigning by rights groups and a meeting that we had with Mr.
 Kapil Sibal, the HRD Ministry has proposed the following wording for the
 copyright amendment:



 *Section 52 (1) (za)**: The reproduction, issue of copies or communication
 to the public of any work in a format, including sign language, specially
 designed only for the use of persons suffering from a visual, aural or
 other
 disability that prevents their enjoyment of such works in their normal
 format.* *

 Section 31B (1):** An organization, registered under section 12A of the
 income tax act, 1961 (act 43 of 1961) and working primarily for the benefit
 of persons with disability, and recognized under chapter X of the persons
 with disabilities (equal opportunities, protection of rights and full
 participation) act, 1995 (act 1 of 1996) may apply to the Copyright Board,
 in such form as may be prescribed, for a compulsory license to publish any
 work in which copyright subsists for the benefit of such persons, in a case
 to which clause (za) of subsection (1) of section 52 does not apply, and
 the
 Copyright Board shall dispose of such application within three months.*

 *(2) The Copyright Board may, upon receiving an application under
 subsection
 (1) inquire, or direct such inquiry as it necessary, to establish the
 credentials of the applicant and satisfy itself that the application has
 been made in good faith.

 (3) If the Copyright Board is satisfied, after giving to the owners of
 rights in the work a reasonable opportunity of being heard and after
 holding
 such inquiry as it may deem necessary, that a compulsory license needs to
 be
 issued to make the work available to the disabled, it may direct the
 Registrar of Copyrights to grant to the applicant such a license to publish
 the work.

 (4) Every compulsory license issued under this section shall specify the
 means and format of publication, the period during which the compulsory
 license may be exercised and, in the case of issue of copies, the number of
 copies that may be issued.

 Provided that where the Board has issued such a compulsory license, it may
 on further application and after giving reasonable opportunity to the owner
 of the rights, extend the period of such compulsory license and allow the
 issue of more copies as it may deem fit.

 (5) The Copyright Board may specify the number of copies that may be
 published without payment of royalty and the fix the rate of royalty for
 the
 remaining copies.*
 The abovementioned amendment is flawed for the following reasons:



 i.*Use of special formats:* The exception extends only
 to specially designed formats such as Braille and would really benefit
 only a part of the disabled community. Those affected by dyslexia, cerebral
 palsy, low vision and other physical disabilities and the late blind would
 require audio, reading material with large fonts and electronic texts. As
 these are not formats specially aimed at a disabled group they're not
 included in the exception. In other words, more than half of India's
 disabled would be forced to pay royalties to merely access the information
 that is freely available to those persons who can work with special
 formats.
 This violates the guarantee of equality under Article 14 of the
 Constitution
 of India, since it discriminates between those persons with disabilities
 who
 are able to work with special formats and those for whom the special
 formats
 make no sense. Even otherwise, by failing to institute a meaningful
 copyright exception that would

Re: [AI] Fw: Need a copy of web accessibility law 2009.

2010-03-09 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Mukesh,

There is no web accessibility law in India as yet. You can check
www.cis-india.org for a comparative study of the web accessibility law in
about 14 countries around the world.

Cheers,

Rahul Cherian
InclusivePlanet.com

On 9 March 2010 09:27, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbavis...@bsnl.in wrote:


 - Original Message -
 From: Mukesh Baviskar
 To: Access India
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 5:39 AM
 Subject: Need a copy of web accessibility law 2009.


 Hello Friends,
 I'm in a  need of a web accessibility law 2009. Please make it available
 for me at the earliest and mail it to me on my personal e-mail id. Thank you
 in anticipation.

 Mukesh R. Baviskar
 Mobile: 9403161157
 E-mail: mukeshbavis...@bsnl.in
 mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com


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Re: [AI] query regarding external hard drive.

2010-02-07 Thread rahul cherian
I have a similar drive bought 3 years ago and I havent divided it. It is
running very well

Rahul

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 i think you cant do it
 that can b dun if you r haveing a HDD setup with a USB case
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 Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: [AI] query regarding external hard drive.



  Hello accessindians, good evening.
 recently I have purchased a 320 GB seagate external hard drive and i have
 been using it for a week. i want to know that should I divide it into two or
 three parts for better performance? if yes, how?
 with best regards,
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Re: [AI] Seeking your valuable comments on Draft Research Study on Problems and Prospects of Accessible Tourism in India

2010-02-05 Thread rahul cherian
Hi,

I am an avid traveller and would to give my input.

Thanks,

Rahul

On 4 February 2010 19:39, SC Vashishth subhashvashis...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Colleagues,

 Greetings from Svayam!

 Union Ministry of Tourism, Govt. of India commissioned a research study on
 Prospects of Accessible Tourism March 2009 which has been completed and the
 draft research report has been opened for review and comments of the
 stakeholders yesterday. The research was conducted at five destinations
 i.e.
 Taj Mahal (Agra), Amber Fort (Jaipur), Qutub Minar, Delhi), Sun Temple
 (Konark), Mamallapuram (T.N) and Old Goa churches.

 The study aims at eliciting some of the critical attributes of this
 segment-
 viz. their travel behaviour, travel requirements and purchasing power.
 Needless to state, a study of this nature is a concerted move to evolving
 better understanding of various attributes of the tourists with
 disabilities, thereby, contributing to the existing information base. That,
 in turn, can provide a broad direction and to help in framing appropriate
 policies and programmes in such a manner to their better facilitation as
 well as exploring tourism potential.

 The objectives of research study are:

 1. To examine the socio- economic background of the physically challenged
 tourists visiting different destinations in India;
 2. To analyse their travel behaviour;
 3. To examine the problems being faced by them and status of special
 provisions, if any, in those attractions/ facilities ;
 4. To examine their expenditure pattern and purchasing power;
 5. To suggest suitable mechanisms to better facilitating the travel needs
 of
 this segment.

 As a part of Technical Advisory Committee on Accessible Tourism, Svayam has
 been assigned the responsibility to collate the comments and views of the
 stakeholders on the research report. Since the research report runs in to
 138 pages, it will only be circulated to those who wish to provide valuable
 comments/views on the same. Those who are keen on offering their views may
 kindly indicate so by replying this email so that we can send you the draft
 research report.

 We request you to kindly study the report and offer your comments/views to
 make this research report a first valid and credible research document
 brought out by Govt. of India on Accessible Tourism. The likely
 stakeholders
 are Tourists with disabilities, senior citizens, ladies with infants,
 children and any potential tourist with reduced  mobility, among others.

 Kindly respond within the given time frame so that the same could be
 constructively used for finalisation of the Research Report.


 *Warm regards,*

 * *

 *Subhash Chandra Vashishth***

 *Programme Coordinator - Svayam***

 *Jindal Centre, 12, Bhikaji Cama Place***

 *New Delhi** - 110066***

 *Board Numbers: +91 (11) 26188360-74, **Direct: 41462323 **
 **Mobile**: 9811125521**, Fax: +91 (11) 26161271, 26170691
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[AI] Visually Impaired Lawyers

2010-02-04 Thread rahul cherian
Dear Access Indians,

As some of you may be aware Moiz has started a channel on Inclusive Planet
called law resources for legal notes, cases etc. Yesterday a visually
impaired lawyer from Brazil signed in and asked a question about how
visually impaired lawyers read their cases. Can the lawyers here help him
out? His post is available here
http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/channelpost/453287

http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/channelpost/453287Thank you and best
regards,

Rahul

On 16 January 2010 11:28, Kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@hotmail.comwrote:



 Retina India Meeting in Mumbai

 Reminder



 Sunday 17th January 2010

 3-6pm

 Ruia College-Dadar, Matunga



 Nagpur 19th January 2010

 Calcutta 21st January 2010

 Delhi 26th January 2010



  Subject: Invitation for Retina India Patient
  Meetings- Jan 2010

  This letter is being sent on behalf of Retina India, a registered
  Charitable Trust, which is an umbrella organization
  dedicated to research and treatment of retinal disorders,
  with additional focus to promote public health awareness,
  education and advocacy in the field of retinal disorders

  that can lead to visual impairment.
  You are cordially invited
  to attend a open discussion forum being conducted by Retina
  India for the benefit of patients with retinal disorders and
  their families. Retinal ailments include retinitis
  pigmentosa and its allied disorders, macular degeneration,
  diabetic retinopathy, retinopathy of prematurity, etc. The
  meetings will be attended by some of the trustees of Retina
  India. During the meeting, details of the objectives of
  Retina India will be discussed, while the open forum will
  allow attendees to discuss what they wish Retina India
  should do to offer help to the patients and their families.
  In addition, during the meeting, two of the trustees (Dr
  Rajat Agrawal, an Ophthalmologist  Retinal Surgeon
  based in Los Angeles, and Dr Kumaramanickavel, an Ophthalmic
  Geneticist based in Chennai) will discuss on

  the latest advances in the field of clinical and genetic
  variations in retinal diseases, and the newer treatments.
  The details are mentioned below.
  Date and Venue of Meetings

  1. Chenai Date: Monday
  January 11, 2010 Time: 6.00 pm to 8.00 pm
  Venue: Loyola College, Nungambakkam, Chennai 34. RSVP: Mrs.
  Uma Rao Mobile: 9551090749 , L. Subramani,

  Mobile: +91-98860 46612.
  2. Bangalore: Friday,
  January 15, 2010 between 6.00 to 8.00 pm. Venue: The
  Centre for Internet and Society No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff
  Chambers 14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore, 560052 The venue is
  next to the Wockheardt Hospital and is close to Shivaji
  Nagar bus terminus. RSVP: B. David, Mobile: 98455 69496. L.
  Subramani, Mobile: +91-98860 46612.

  3. Mumbai Sunday 17th
  January 2010 between 3pm - 6pm Venue Ruia Colege
  Dadar-Matunga area Mumbai RSVP Mr. Arvind Bhartiya -
  Cell- 982 00 19584 ,Mr. Prasad
  Gurav Cell- 982 1339241

  4. Nagpur Tuesday January
  19, 2010 Around 4 PM Venue- Bhaskar Sabagriha, Bharat
  Nagar, Amravati Road, Opp. LIT. Nagpur , RSVP - Mr.Gaurav
  Godbole Cell 9049990466 . with Mr.Gaurav for exact timings.

  5. Calcutta Thursday 21st
  January 2010 Welfare Society for the Blind . Around 5.30
  PM.
  RSVP- Ms. Kriti Agarwal 09831651424 .

  6. Delhi- Tuesday 26th
  January 2010 , 4.30 PM
  Venue: POTA Cabin, Gate
  Number 06 (adjacent to NDMC Poly Clinic), Sector - 4, DIZ
  Area, Shaheed Bhagat Singh Marg,New Delhi.. RSVP- Mr. Narendra Gautam Cell
  09873252616 .

  Entry Free





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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

2010-01-28 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Subramani,

I like the name. How do we go about this? Harish can we discuss this
initiative here in detail?

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/28 Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in

 If we ever do so, we must ccall it People for the Merit and Enablement
 Party (PMEP).

 Subramani



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 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
 cherian
 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:32 PM
 To: vinod; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

 I agree with Vinod

 2010/1/27 vinod vinodasudan...@gmail.com

  it is the need of the hour that we should think seriously about the
  empowerment of the disabled in th politicale field. If parties give us
 our
  due it isalright. Otherwise we must unite and start our own party. How
 long
  we will remain silent?
 
  - Original Message - From: l pavan l.pavan@gmail.com
  To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:59 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
 
 
   hello list members!
  to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned
 issue.
   as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
  but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
  as of now we may not establish a new party.
  but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
  in various activities that benifit people.
  in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
  prakash narayan.
  who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
  personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
  --
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

2010-01-28 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Subramani,

I agree, let us spread the idea to the able bodied and
other disabilities and let everybody think about it. As a journalist, the
responsibility of planting the seed of this new idea and gathering support
is squarely in your hands. I am happy to do whatever I can. Do let me know
how I can help.

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/28 Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in

 Hai Rahul:

 Your enthusiasm is admirable, but let me also remind you that To
 everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under the
 heaven. So let the thought germinate and let others, which also include
 folks with other disabilities and also those able-bodied, come around
 and accept and support the idea.

 Subramani



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
 cherian
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:30 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

 Hi Subramani,

 I like the name. How do we go about this? Harish can we discuss this
 initiative here in detail?

 Best regards,

 Rahul

 2010/1/28 Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in

  If we ever do so, we must ccall it People for the Merit and Enablement
  Party (PMEP).
 
  Subramani
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
  cherian
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:32 PM
  To: vinod; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
 
  I agree with Vinod
 
  2010/1/27 vinod vinodasudan...@gmail.com
 
   it is the need of the hour that we should think seriously about the
   empowerment of the disabled in th politicale field. If parties give
 us
  our
   due it isalright. Otherwise we must unite and start our own party.
 How
  long
   we will remain silent?
  
   - Original Message - From: l pavan l.pavan@gmail.com
   To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:59 PM
  
   Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
  
  
hello list members!
   to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned
  issue.
as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
   but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
   as of now we may not establish a new party.
   but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively
 involving
   in various activities that benifit people.
   in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
   prakash narayan.
   who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is
 my
   personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
   --
   l.pavan(help ever  hurt never)
  
  
  
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Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

2010-01-28 Thread rahul cherian
My take on overcoming disability is this: people should look at you and
forget that you have a disability. You should be recognized for who you are
and not for your disability. Einstein is a good example because he is known
for things other than his disability. People know him as a genius who also
had autism and not primarily as a person with autism. Beethoven is famous
not because he is deaf, but because he wrote great music. This in my opinion
is when you overcome your disability. Of course, everyone cannot be an
Einstein or a Beethoven but we can try and reach a level where people around
us forget about our disability and judge us only on what we do, and not the
effort it took for us to do it.

2010/1/28 Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

 Well Subramani,
 I am not objecting calling excellent as excellent, but disability is
 overcome when either a person does something which that particular
 disability prevents her from doing, or when she/he leads a fulfilling life
 in the general parlance.
 Spade may be called spade and not a saw.
 So, we may say that an autistic person is a memory wizard or something
 else, however, saying that he has overcome his disability connotes that his
 life is fulfilling according to generally accepted yardstics, which more
 often than not, is not the case.
 Let me hasten to add that a fulfilling life, though a subjective concept
 does include some essential experiences and pleasures without which it may
 justly be said to be lopsided or unfulfilling.


 Regards

 Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
 Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 Assistant General Manager,
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 09420397185
 O: 0712 2806676
 Res: 0712 2591349



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:23 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

 Sorry Rajesh. I always approved your comments on many topics, but here I
 guess there is no harm in saying a person is excellent if he/she is
 indeed excellent.Considering the odds the person is against, the
 accomplishment is great. The scientific facts that you have given is
 beyond question, but if you go by that standard you can not call Albert
 Einstein a great scientist since he seems to have had very different
 brain formation and also is an autistic person.

 Subramani



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
 Rajesh
 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:10 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

 Okay, these may surely inspire some, but calling them disability
 overcome is a bit misplaced, me thinks.

 Autism sometimes manifests in such modes as to give one particular
 faculty an over development.
 So, saying that a person has lived a fulfilling life based on exemplary
 performance in one domain is not justified.
 It also sends wrong signals  regarding abilities of all autistic or
 disabled persons in general.
 Disability is being overcome in day to day lives by thousands of people
 without making news headlines.
 The case where performance is abnormal should be reported as such and
 not as disability overcome.
 Rajesh

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
 cherian
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:56 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

 Very Inspiring stories. My favorite is the one about Wagner who broke
 the
 world record for speed. That accomplishment seems unimaginable.



 2010/1/26 Saravanan Ramadoss saravanan.ramado...@gmail.com

 
  Subject: DISABILITY OVERCOME
 
  A man born blind and diagnosed with autism at age 5 is proving to the
 
  world that his disabilities will never limit him from achieving
 
  greatness.
 
  Tony DeBlois has an amazing story. At only two years old, Tony played
 
  Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star on a small organ that his mother
 
  had bought at a yard sale. It shocked his mother, who knew that her
 
  son's mental abilities were affected in some way. It was later
 
  determined that Tony possesses a rare mind and is considered to be a
 
  musical savant.
 
  Tony attended the Perkins School for the Blind in Massachusetts where
 
  he took lessons and learned to play many of the instruments in his
 
  incredible repertoire. Tony's mother noticed that he was having
 
  difficulty with motor skills when doing simple tasks. So she taught
 
  him how to brush his teeth by asking him to pretend that he was
 
  playing the violin. He learned to brush his hair by playing the drums.
 
  Eventually, he was awarded a scholarship to the Berklee School

Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

2010-01-28 Thread rahul cherian
 as such and
 not as disability overcome.
 Rajesh

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
 cherian
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:56 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

 Very Inspiring stories. My favorite is the one about Wagner who broke
 the
 world record for speed. That accomplishment seems unimaginable.



 2010/1/26 Saravanan Ramadoss saravanan.ramado...@gmail.com

 
  Subject: DISABILITY OVERCOME
 
  A man born blind and diagnosed with autism at age 5 is proving to the
 
  world that his disabilities will never limit him from achieving
 
  greatness.
 
  Tony DeBlois has an amazing story. At only two years old, Tony played
 
  Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star on a small organ that his mother
 
  had bought at a yard sale. It shocked his mother, who knew that her
 
  son's mental abilities were affected in some way. It was later
 
  determined that Tony possesses a rare mind and is considered to be a
 
  musical savant.
 
  Tony attended the Perkins School for the Blind in Massachusetts where
 
  he took lessons and learned to play many of the instruments in his
 
  incredible repertoire. Tony's mother noticed that he was having
 
  difficulty with motor skills when doing simple tasks. So she taught
 
  him how to brush his teeth by asking him to pretend that he was
 
  playing the violin. He learned to brush his hair by playing the drums.
 
  Eventually, he was awarded a scholarship to the Berklee School of
 
  Music and later graduated summa cum laude. While he is very humble
 
  about his education and his talents, he is referred to as a prodigious
 
  savant, essentially an autistic genius. Considering the circumstances,
 
  it would be difficult to disagree.
 
  DeBlois, now 36 years old, can play a total of 22 instruments, leads
 
  a jazz band, and has recorded 6 CDs of his work.
 
  To access the original article, please go to
 
 
 
 http://www.enterprisenews.com/lifestyle/x1672004061/Musician-proves-blin
 dness-autism-are-no-barriers-to-success
 
  *
 
  Kim Peek is probably a man that few have heard of before. As obscure
 
  as his name may be, he was actually the inspiration for Dustin
 
  Hoffman's autistic savant character in the award-winning1988 movie,
 
  Rain Man. Mr. Peek recently passed away at the age of 58.
 
  Peek was truly an incredible man. While he himself was not an
 
  autistic savant, his brain harbored abnormalities which made it
 
  function very similarly to someone with that mental condition. Like
 
  many in his position, he possessed a fascinating mind, capable of
 
  operating at very high levels in certain fields. In Mr. Peek's case,
 
  his memory was other worldly.
 
  When he was nine months old, doctors felt that he was so mentally
 
  retarded that he would hardly be able to walk, let alone function in
 
  any normal capacity. However, at just six years old, he had memorized
 
  the first eight volumes of a set of encyclopedias owned by his family.
 
  At fourteen, he had completed a high school curriculum with the help
 
  of a private tutor.
 
  Peek was able to read a book two pages at a time, one with each eye.
 
  With this skill, he reportedly read nearly twelve thousand volumes in
 
  his lifetime. Even more amazing was that he could remember everything
 
  he read. Mr. Peek had memorized so many Shakespearean plays and
 
  musical compositions and was such a stickler for accuracy, his father
 
  said, that they had to stop attending performances because he would
 
  stand up and correct the actors or the musicians. He'd stand up
 
  and say: 'Wait a minute! The trombone is two notes off,'  Fran
 
  Peek said.
 
  Peek also knew all of the area and zip codes in the United States and
 
  could recite all of the television stations serving those areas. He
 
  would also memorize the maps in the front of phone books and was able
 
  to give directions in any major U.S. city with staggering detail. He
 
  could also identify hundreds of classical music compositions and give
 
  details about the tonality in each, as well as delving into stunning
 
  detail regarding the biographical information of the composer.
 
  Kim Peek was the definition of amazing. A man who doctors predicted
 
  would hardly walk ended up possessing one of the most amazing minds
 
  for facts and the arts that we've ever known. He is truly an
 
  inspiration to anyone who was dealt a challenge from the start.
 
  To read the original article, please go to
 
  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27peek.html?pagewanted=1_r=2
 
  
 
  Back in October of 2009, an amazing record was set by Hein Wagner, a
 
  blind motivational speaker. Wagner, a daredevil at heart, has set the
 
  world record for the fastest speed ever driven in an automobile by a
 
  blind person.
 
  In 2005, Wagner set the record in a Maserati Grand Sport and was able

Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

2010-01-27 Thread rahul cherian
I agree with Vinod

2010/1/27 vinod vinodasudan...@gmail.com

 it is the need of the hour that we should think seriously about the
 empowerment of the disabled in th politicale field. If parties give us our
 due it isalright. Otherwise we must unite and start our own party. How long
 we will remain silent?

 - Original Message - From: l pavan l.pavan@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:59 PM

 Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled


  hello list members!
 to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned issue.
  as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
 but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
 as of now we may not establish a new party.
 but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
 in various activities that benifit people.
 in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
 prakash narayan.
 who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
 personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
 --
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Re: [AI] domestic violence women with visual impairment

2010-01-26 Thread rahul cherian
You should contact the Alternate Law Forum, an NGO based in Bangalore. They
do a lot of work in this area. you can contact lawrence liang who heads the
Alternate Law Forum. his email id is lawre...@altlawforum.org

Regards,

Rahul

2010/1/26 Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in

 One of the most important thing is to let the women know that they must
 take legal help when they are subjected to violence. Few women are aware
 of this and surely the visually challenged women have more problems in
 understanding this. Of course, while the women may not know whom to
 contact, you may think of establishing a helpline which they ccan
 contact to report on the violence inflicted on them. This could be
 managed either by police or by one of the NGOs.

 Subramani



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 Dear members,
 We are doing the sample survey on domestic violence women with visual
 impairment in five countries.
 Everyone knows the condition of women in general and visually impaired
 women in particular.
 I want your valuable comments what kind of recommendations we can
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Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

2010-01-26 Thread rahul cherian
Very Inspiring stories. My favorite is the one about Wagner who broke the
world record for speed. That accomplishment seems unimaginable.



2010/1/26 Saravanan Ramadoss saravanan.ramado...@gmail.com


 Subject: DISABILITY OVERCOME

 A man born blind and diagnosed with autism at age 5 is proving to the

 world that his disabilities will never limit him from achieving

 greatness.

 Tony DeBlois has an amazing story. At only two years old, Tony played

 Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star on a small organ that his mother

 had bought at a yard sale. It shocked his mother, who knew that her

 son's mental abilities were affected in some way. It was later

 determined that Tony possesses a rare mind and is considered to be a

 musical savant.

 Tony attended the Perkins School for the Blind in Massachusetts where

 he took lessons and learned to play many of the instruments in his

 incredible repertoire. Tony's mother noticed that he was having

 difficulty with motor skills when doing simple tasks. So she taught

 him how to brush his teeth by asking him to pretend that he was

 playing the violin. He learned to brush his hair by playing the drums.

 Eventually, he was awarded a scholarship to the Berklee School of

 Music and later graduated summa cum laude. While he is very humble

 about his education and his talents, he is referred to as a prodigious

 savant, essentially an autistic genius. Considering the circumstances,

 it would be difficult to disagree.

 DeBlois, now 36 years old, can play a total of 22 instruments, leads

 a jazz band, and has recorded 6 CDs of his work.

 To access the original article, please go to


 http://www.enterprisenews.com/lifestyle/x1672004061/Musician-proves-blindness-autism-are-no-barriers-to-success

 *

 Kim Peek is probably a man that few have heard of before. As obscure

 as his name may be, he was actually the inspiration for Dustin

 Hoffman's autistic savant character in the award-winning1988 movie,

 Rain Man. Mr. Peek recently passed away at the age of 58.

 Peek was truly an incredible man. While he himself was not an

 autistic savant, his brain harbored abnormalities which made it

 function very similarly to someone with that mental condition. Like

 many in his position, he possessed a fascinating mind, capable of

 operating at very high levels in certain fields. In Mr. Peek's case,

 his memory was other worldly.

 When he was nine months old, doctors felt that he was so mentally

 retarded that he would hardly be able to walk, let alone function in

 any normal capacity. However, at just six years old, he had memorized

 the first eight volumes of a set of encyclopedias owned by his family.

 At fourteen, he had completed a high school curriculum with the help

 of a private tutor.

 Peek was able to read a book two pages at a time, one with each eye.

 With this skill, he reportedly read nearly twelve thousand volumes in

 his lifetime. Even more amazing was that he could remember everything

 he read. Mr. Peek had memorized so many Shakespearean plays and

 musical compositions and was such a stickler for accuracy, his father

 said, that they had to stop attending performances because he would

 stand up and correct the actors or the musicians. He'd stand up

 and say: 'Wait a minute! The trombone is two notes off,'  Fran

 Peek said.

 Peek also knew all of the area and zip codes in the United States and

 could recite all of the television stations serving those areas. He

 would also memorize the maps in the front of phone books and was able

 to give directions in any major U.S. city with staggering detail. He

 could also identify hundreds of classical music compositions and give

 details about the tonality in each, as well as delving into stunning

 detail regarding the biographical information of the composer.

 Kim Peek was the definition of amazing. A man who doctors predicted

 would hardly walk ended up possessing one of the most amazing minds

 for facts and the arts that we've ever known. He is truly an

 inspiration to anyone who was dealt a challenge from the start.

 To read the original article, please go to

 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27peek.html?pagewanted=1_r=2

 

 Back in October of 2009, an amazing record was set by Hein Wagner, a

 blind motivational speaker. Wagner, a daredevil at heart, has set the

 world record for the fastest speed ever driven in an automobile by a

 blind person.

 In 2005, Wagner set the record in a Maserati Grand Sport and was able

 to sustain a speed of 167 miles per hour during that time. However,

 not entirely satisfied, Wagner wanted to go bigger and hit that 200

 mile per hour milestone that every extreme driver dreams about.

 With the help of a brand new Mercedes Benz SL65 Black Series, which

 has a twin turbo V12 engine producing a staggering 661 horsepower,

 Wagner was able to reach his goal. Representatives from Guinness World

 Records were on hand to confirm 

Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

2010-01-26 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Rajesh,

Yes I totally agree that a person with disability has to put in 100 times
the effort as a person without disability to do anything. I also agree that
it is a very tall order for a person with disability to compete with, and be
better than, an able bodied person. But unless we are able to compete with,
and be better than, able bodied persons, especially in our professions, we
will not be able to command the respect of society. It may be difficult but
we have to try. We have to set the benchmarks high and we should be prepared
for people to judge us on absolute terms and not according to the terms that
able bodied people have set for us.

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/27 Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

 Well, We have to excel in whatever we do. That is the approach to make
 ourselves counted in a democracy.
 As an approach it sounds good but let us consider some things:

 1. Noboty disabled or able-bodied can excel in whatever s/he does.

 2. A person with disability has to put in N fold more efforts and has to
 encounter N number of more hardships to even approximate the average level
 of functioning in general.

 3. So the mandate of excellence as per general norm in all spheres of
 activity is a tall order for a disabled person.

 4. Society is not fine-tuned to calibrate the yardstic of performance and
 excellence according to a persons disability and temperament.

 5. So, we may say that a person with disability should try to do at his
 best whatever s/he is  doing and widen the sphere of her/his activities,
 without laying down something so vague as excellence.


 regards
 Rajesh
 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul cherian
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:45 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

 hello pavan,

 I believe that people with disability will be a vote bank if we can
 organise
 ourselves because there are about 10 crore people with disability in India
 alone. Till we organise ourselves, we will have to rely on the charity
 model
 where we beg for our rights and not a rights based model where we can
 demand
 our rights.

 I agree with your approach of building confidence in people and i think
 this
 can be done not only by being service oriented and helping people but also
 being more active in mainstream activities, whether it be in professions,
 business or otherwise. Mainstream society has to look at people with
 disability as being equal to them and not as a community that wants
 sympathy. We should be fearless and challenge perceptions of people by
 excelling in whatever we do. I feel that mainstream society has not had
 the opportunity to interact enough with people with disability who are not
 stereotypes. We have to put our best foot forward to break the stereotypes.

 I think that meeting Mr. Jayaprakash Narayan and other leaders will be very
 useful. They must know that there is a sizable number of persons
 with disabilities who are interested in politics and indeed in joining
 politics. I wish you all the best in your endeavor.

 Best regards,

 Rahul

 2010/1/25 l pavan l.pavan@gmail.com

  hello list members!
  to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned issue.
   as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
  but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
  as of now we may not establish a new party.
  but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
  in various activities that benifit people.
  in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
  prakash narayan.
  who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
  personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
  --
  l.pavan(help ever  hurt never)
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

2010-01-26 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Rajesh,

First of all, 99. % of people, whether able bodied or otherwise will be
able to compete with your achievements. Having said that, we shouldnt stop
trying to emulate people such as yourself. We as a community should set our
bar higher than what able bodied people have set for us. We should go out
more and try and surprise the able bodied world at each and every turn. Let
the world at large know that we are just like everybody else, except for the
fact that some of us cannot see or hear or walk. I am in total agreement
with you when you say that we should do whatever we do to the best of our
ability. I feel that you hit the nail on the head when you said let us widen
our sphere of activity. Let us not be afraid of what people think of us. It
is up to us, the people on this list and who have been lucky enough to be
educated to change the perception of society. And this can be done only by
being in the public eye and public consciousness.

Cheers,

Rahul

2010/1/27 Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

 Hi rahul
 Firstly there are no absolute terms to judge anybody as excellent or
 otherwise. We may speak only in terms  of generally prevalent notions and
 yardsticks.

 Secondly, We may say that a few persons with disabilities may go beyond
 even the generally accepted norms of excellence in professions or academics
 and command the respect of society, but that should not become the desired
 level of performance for every disabled, rather it should set in motion a
 process and form an ambience where functioning of disabled is recognized and
 enhanced to make them come up to generally accepted average levels of
 performance sufficient for leading a fulfilling life.

 For instance, in academics we three Asudani brothers have captured not less
 than thirty gold medals in various exams competing successfully with able
 bodied, I alone cornering 19 of such gold medals including 13 in LL.B.,
 highest in the convocation of university.
 Now surely, this feat is regarded as climbing to commanding heights of
 academic performance. But now surely, it would be a magnificent blunder if
 such performance is required to be duplicated by any disabled in order to be
 recognized by society. Unfortunately, it has been done.
 A blind girl studying after me in the same school from where I topped my
 state in secondary school certificate exam in the general merit list, was
 thrown out for she was below average in studies.
 The room should not only be at the top but at the every intervening step in
 ladder. climbers to the top are rare, and rarest those with disability,
 their example may be cited as inspiring but they should not be held up as
 the necessary minimum yardsticks for a disabled person to merit any
 recognition.
 If we ourselves glamorize the Darwinian ideal of survival only of only the
 fittest, in this context the excellent, then I am afraid no disability
 deserves it at the most basic or ground level of evolutionary dynamics.
 So, I still think, let us try to excel, but do at our best whatever we are
 doing, and widen the sphere of our activities.
 Let an average disabled person have an ambience of support but not of
 threat.
 Regards
 Rajesh

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul cherian
 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:30 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

 Hi Rajesh,

 Yes I totally agree that a person with disability has to put in 100 times
 the effort as a person without disability to do anything. I also agree that
 it is a very tall order for a person with disability to compete with, and
 be
 better than, an able bodied person. But unless we are able to compete with,
 and be better than, able bodied persons, especially in our professions, we
 will not be able to command the respect of society. It may be difficult but
 we have to try. We have to set the benchmarks high and we should be
 prepared
 for people to judge us on absolute terms and not according to the terms
 that
 able bodied people have set for us.

 Best regards,

 Rahul

 2010/1/27 Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

  Well, We have to excel in whatever we do. That is the approach to make
  ourselves counted in a democracy.
  As an approach it sounds good but let us consider some things:
 
  1. Noboty disabled or able-bodied can excel in whatever s/he does.
 
  2. A person with disability has to put in N fold more efforts and has to
  encounter N number of more hardships to even approximate the average
 level
  of functioning in general.
 
  3. So the mandate of excellence as per general norm in all spheres of
  activity is a tall order for a disabled person.
 
  4. Society is not fine-tuned to calibrate the yardstic of performance and
  excellence according to a persons disability and temperament.
 
  5. So, we may say that a person with disability should

Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

2010-01-25 Thread rahul cherian
How does one become a member of the Party?

Harish, perhaps you should launch and Access India Party.

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/25 Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org

 As far as I know, Nationalist Congress Party has such cell in Mumbai.

 On 1/25/10, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
  I do believe that all Political parties should have a disability cell!
  - Original Message -
  From: vinod vinodasudan...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
 
 
  it is awelcome move. o
  - Original Message -  have a cell for dealing with
  From: Renuka Warrier eren...@gmail.com
  To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:04 AM
  Subject: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
 
 
 
 
  Date:23/01/2010 URL:
  http://www.thehindu.com/2010/01/23/stories/2010012351660400.htm
 
 _
 
  Link: Kerala- Thiruvananthapuram
  KPCC cell for the differently abled
 
  Girish Menon
 
  Prime aim is to ensure that their 3% job quota is protected
  New Platform: Leader of the Opposition Oommen Chandy with a physically
  challenged person at the inauguration of the Differently Abled People's
  Congress in Thiruvananthapuram on Friday.
  Thiruvananthapuram: The Congress has become the first political party to
  launch a full-fledged outfit for differently-abled people, with the
  specific objective of protecting the interests of this section.
 
  The Differently Abled People's Congress, which was formally inaugurated
 by
  Opposition Leader Oommen Chandy here on Thursday, will work towards the
  welfare of these segments, particularly in relation to protecting the
  three per cent job reservation they are legally entitled to. According
 to
  Mr. Thalekunnil Basheer, KPCC vice-president who is charge of the new
  organisation, the State has an estimated 20 lakh people who are
 physically
  and mentally challenged. These segments are eligible for several
 welfare
  schemes of the Central and State governments. But in reality, these are
  out of bounds for them. The new organisation will uphold their interests
  and ensure they get their due from the government sponsored schemes, he
  said.
 
  At the inauguration function, Mr. Chandy wanted the government to
 appoint
  differently abled people to higher posts. He said that the government
  should also take steps to clear the backlog in the appointment of people
  belonging to this category. Private and public establishments should
  provide representation to them, he said.
 
  The DAPC elected Kottamam Vimal Kumar as president and C.S. Thomas as
  general secretary. A lot of preparatory work was done prior to its
 formal
  inauguration. The KPCC convened a preliminary meeting and set up a
  steering committee. Mr. Basheer said the new organisation would soon
  prepare a plan action and bring the problems faced by them for public
  debate.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

2010-01-25 Thread rahul cherian
I agree with Subramani. I think our politicians are only as good or bad as
well let them be. IF we want out politicians to be better, we have to make
them better by voting the bad ones out of power. I can already see some
change by politicians such as Manmohan Singh.

regards,

Rahul

2010/1/25 Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in

 That is a sinical way of looking at it and perhaps a reflection of the
 attitude towards politics shown by majority of educated folks in our
 society. I think political participation -that means representing or
 supporting or voting for a particular party- is part of our rights. We
 cannot blame the government or may not have the voice to express our
 issues unless there is active participation in the political activities
 of the state. Why don't we take the examples of Manmohan Singh and Jyoti
 Basu and look at the brighter side of politics. I am not asking you to
 be partisan, but don't give that as a reason to shy away from exercising
 your right to participate in political activities and have your say in
 it.

 Subramani



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Krishnan
 Moothimoola
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:39 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

 hai friends,
 this is a disintegrating element which will make differently abled
 people to
 think and act as a partysan manner. though it will uphold democratic
 values,
 this will disrupt the unity and strength among the differently abled
 people
 and will destabilise the common objectives of NGOs workingamong the
 field.
 krishnan m. moothimoola
 - Original Message -
 From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled


  As far as I know, Nationalist Congress Party has such cell in Mumbai.
 
  On 1/25/10, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
  I do believe that all Political parties should have a disability
 cell!
  - Original Message -
  From: vinod vinodasudan...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
 
 
  it is awelcome move. o
  - Original Message -  have a cell for dealing with
  From: Renuka Warrier eren...@gmail.com
  To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:04 AM
  Subject: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
 
 
 
 
  Date:23/01/2010 URL:
  http://www.thehindu.com/2010/01/23/stories/2010012351660400.htm
 
 
 _
 
  Link: Kerala- Thiruvananthapuram
  KPCC cell for the differently abled
 
  Girish Menon
 
  Prime aim is to ensure that their 3% job quota is protected
  New Platform: Leader of the Opposition Oommen Chandy with a
 physically
  challenged person at the inauguration of the Differently Abled
 People's
  Congress in Thiruvananthapuram on Friday.
  Thiruvananthapuram: The Congress has become the first political
 party to
  launch a full-fledged outfit for differently-abled people, with the
  specific objective of protecting the interests of this section.
 
  The Differently Abled People's Congress, which was formally
 inaugurated
  by
  Opposition Leader Oommen Chandy here on Thursday, will work towards
 the
  welfare of these segments, particularly in relation to protecting
 the
  three per cent job reservation they are legally entitled to.
 According
  to
  Mr. Thalekunnil Basheer, KPCC vice-president who is charge of the
 new
  organisation, the State has an estimated 20 lakh people who are
  physically
  and mentally challenged. These segments are eligible for several
  welfare
  schemes of the Central and State governments. But in reality, these
 are
  out of bounds for them. The new organisation will uphold their
 interests
  and ensure they get their due from the government sponsored
 schemes, he
  said.
 
  At the inauguration function, Mr. Chandy wanted the government to
  appoint
  differently abled people to higher posts. He said that the
 government
  should also take steps to clear the backlog in the appointment of
 people
  belonging to this category. Private and public establishments should
  provide representation to them, he said.
 
  The DAPC elected Kottamam Vimal Kumar as president and C.S. Thomas
 as
  general secretary. A lot of preparatory work was done prior to its
  formal
  inauguration. The KPCC convened a preliminary meeting and set up a
  steering committee. Mr. Basheer said the new organisation would soon
  prepare a plan action and bring the problems faced by them for
 public
  debate.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

2010-01-25 Thread rahul cherian
hello pavan,

I believe that people with disability will be a vote bank if we can organise
ourselves because there are about 10 crore people with disability in India
alone. Till we organise ourselves, we will have to rely on the charity model
where we beg for our rights and not a rights based model where we can demand
our rights.

I agree with your approach of building confidence in people and i think this
can be done not only by being service oriented and helping people but also
being more active in mainstream activities, whether it be in professions,
business or otherwise. Mainstream society has to look at people with
disability as being equal to them and not as a community that wants
sympathy. We should be fearless and challenge perceptions of people by
excelling in whatever we do. I feel that mainstream society has not had
the opportunity to interact enough with people with disability who are not
stereotypes. We have to put our best foot forward to break the stereotypes.

I think that meeting Mr. Jayaprakash Narayan and other leaders will be very
useful. They must know that there is a sizable number of persons
with disabilities who are interested in politics and indeed in joining
politics. I wish you all the best in your endeavor.

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/25 l pavan l.pavan@gmail.com

 hello list members!
 to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned issue.
  as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
 but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
 as of now we may not establish a new party.
 but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
 in various activities that benifit people.
 in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
 prakash narayan.
 who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
 personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
 --
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

2010-01-22 Thread rahul cherian
This is a very positive development. If my understanding is right, laws in
several European countries were changed as a result of political parties
comprising of PWDs getting elected to Parliament and changing law from
inside, rather than outside as we are trying now.

On 23 January 2010 08:04, Renuka Warrier eren...@gmail.com wrote:



 Date:23/01/2010 URL:
 http://www.thehindu.com/2010/01/23/stories/2010012351660400.htm_

 Link: Kerala- Thiruvananthapuram
 KPCC cell for the differently abled

 Girish Menon

 Prime aim is to ensure that their 3% job quota is protected
 New Platform: Leader of the Opposition Oommen Chandy with a physically
 challenged person at the inauguration of the Differently Abled People's
 Congress in Thiruvananthapuram on Friday.
 Thiruvananthapuram: The Congress has become the first political party to
 launch a full-fledged outfit for differently-abled people, with the specific
 objective of protecting the interests of this section.

 The Differently Abled People's Congress, which was formally inaugurated by
 Opposition Leader Oommen Chandy here on Thursday, will work towards the
 welfare of these segments, particularly in relation to protecting the three
 per cent job reservation they are legally entitled to. According to Mr.
 Thalekunnil Basheer, KPCC vice-president who is charge of the new
 organisation, the State has an estimated 20 lakh people who are physically
 and mentally challenged. These segments are eligible for several welfare
 schemes of the Central and State governments. But in reality, these are out
 of bounds for them. The new organisation will uphold their interests and
 ensure they get their due from the government sponsored schemes, he said.

 At the inauguration function, Mr. Chandy wanted the government to appoint
 differently abled people to higher posts. He said that the government should
 also take steps to clear the backlog in the appointment of people belonging
 to this category. Private and public establishments should provide
 representation to them, he said.

 The DAPC elected Kottamam Vimal Kumar as president and C.S. Thomas as
 general secretary. A lot of preparatory work was done prior to its formal
 inauguration. The KPCC convened a preliminary meeting and set up a steering
 committee. Mr. Basheer said the new organisation would soon prepare a plan
 action and bring the problems faced by them for public debate.




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Re: [AI] Law Resources channel and Bertrand Russell's A History of Western Philosophy on Inclusive Planet

2010-01-21 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Moiz,

This is good. Could you ask members of your channel to upload all circulars,
notifications and case laws relevant for persons with disabilities?
Hopefully your channel can become a one-stop-resource for all this
information. Perhaps, you and members of your channel could think of
releasing a compendium so that legal practitioners and others around the
country will benefit. I will speak to a few disability lawyers I know to
help you if you want. I am sure that the learned members of AI will have
most of the information anyways.

Cheers,

Rahul

2010/1/21 moiz tundawala moiztundaw...@gmail.com

 Dear All,
 I have started a channel called ‘Law Resources’ on Inclusive Planet.
 Here is a brief description:
 This channel is about posting useful information, sharing files and
 links pertaining to anything related to law- theory and practice. All
 are welcome to participate and contribute.
 Here is the link:
 http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/group/439275

 I have also uploaded Bertrand Russell’s A History of Western
 Philosophy on the website.

 Looking forward to see some of you participate on the channel.
 Best,
 Moiz.


 --
 Moiz Tundawala
 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons.,
 West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences,
 NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City,
 Kolkata, 700 098

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Re: [AI] Wonders of the Sky.

2010-01-21 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Harish, Amiyo,

It would be great if you could start a channel on Inclusive Planet for audio
recordings of all the events happening across the country. We can get
international users to contribute audio recordings of events happening in
other parts of the world.

Cheers,

Rahul

2010/1/22 Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in

 Dear Amiyo

 Pl arrange to record it and upload it for the rest to listen to for those
 who can't make it.
 I believe at BookBole it can be kept for good.
 Warmly
 Harish Kotian

 From: Blind Persons' Association
 To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
 Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:17 PM
 Subject: Wonders of the Sky.


 Dear Sir/Madam,

 We have the pleasure to inform you that Dr. Amalendu Bandyopadhyay, former
 Director of Positional Astronomical Centre will speak on wonders of the
 great sky Mahakasher Bismay with slide illustrations specifically for the
 sightless listeners on January 24, 2010 (Sunday) at 3 PM at Lal Bihari Shah
 Braille Academia, 3rd Floor, Vidyapalli, Malancha-Mahinagar, Kolkata -
 700145.

 You are requested to join this programme and share with us our experience
 of voyage to the sky with this renowned astronomer.

 We are sorry that we could not invite you in time on account of unavoidable
 circumstances.

 Yours sincerely,

 Buddhadev Sikdar
 General Secretary

 Blind Persons' Association

 
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Re: [AI] UGC grants for making colleges accessible

2010-01-20 Thread rahul cherian
Thank Rajesh,

Regards,

Rahul

2010/1/21 Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

 I rahul
 The detailed scheme or circular thereof is with me, I will send it shortly
 today.
 Rajesh

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul cherian
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:01 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] UGC grants for making colleges accessible

 Hi Folks,

 I understand from Subramani that UGC provides grants to colleges to make
 them accessible. Does anyone have the details of this? I have been tasked
 with making a leading college accessible for persons with disabilities

 Thank you,

 Rahul Cherian
 InclusivePlanet.com



 2010/1/19 Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.de

  Are recordings of any of the Retina India meetings available for those of
  us
  who could not attend?
 
  Geetha
  - Original Message -
  From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:19 AM
  Subject: [AI] Retina India meeting today at Nagpur
 
 
  Hi friends,
 
  Information about Retina India meeting today at Nagpur.
  Nagpur Tuesday January  19, 2010
  at4 PM
  Venue- Bhaskar Sabagriha,
  Bharat Nagar,
  Amravati Road,
  Opp. LIT.
  Nagpur ,
  RSVP -
  Mr.Gaurav Godbole Cell 9049990466 .
 
   This mail is being sent on behalf of Retina India, a registered
  Charitable
   Trust, which is an umbrella organization dedicated to research and
  treatment
   of retinal disorders, with additional focus to promote public
  health
   awareness, education and advocacy in the field of retinal disorders
  that can
   lead to visual impairment.
 
 
   You are cordially invited to attend a open discussion forum being
  conducted
   by Retina India for the benefit of patients with retinal disorders
  and their
   families. Retinal ailments include retinitis pigmentosa and its
  allied
   disorders, macular degeneration, diabetic retinopathy, retinopathy
  of
   prematurity, etc.
 
 
   Theme: Retina India - Open Forum of Discussion
 
 
  The meetings will be attended by some of the trustees of Retina
  India.
  During
   the meeting, details of the objectives of Retina India will be
  discussed,
   while the open forum will allow attendees to discuss what they wish
  Retina
   India should do to offer help to the patients and their families.
 
 
   In addition, during the meeting, two of the trustees (Dr Rajat
  Agrawal, an
   Ophthalmologist  Retinal Surgeon based in Los Angeles, and Dr
   Kumaramanickavel, an Ophthalmic Geneticist based in Chennai) will
  discuss on
   the latest advances in the field of clinical and genetic variations
  in
   retinal diseases, and the newer treatments.
  Best Regards,
   Retina India
   www.retinaindia.org
 
  --
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  PH Res : +91 877-2243861
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  gvamsh...@gmail.com
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[AI] UGC grants for making colleges accessible

2010-01-19 Thread rahul cherian
Hi Folks,

I understand from Subramani that UGC provides grants to colleges to make
them accessible. Does anyone have the details of this? I have been tasked
with making a leading college accessible for persons with disabilities

Thank you,

Rahul Cherian
InclusivePlanet.com



2010/1/19 Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.de

 Are recordings of any of the Retina India meetings available for those of
 us
 who could not attend?

 Geetha
 - Original Message -
 From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:19 AM
 Subject: [AI] Retina India meeting today at Nagpur


 Hi friends,

 Information about Retina India meeting today at Nagpur.
 Nagpur Tuesday January  19, 2010
 at4 PM
 Venue- Bhaskar Sabagriha,
 Bharat Nagar,
 Amravati Road,
 Opp. LIT.
 Nagpur ,
 RSVP -
 Mr.Gaurav Godbole Cell 9049990466 .

  This mail is being sent on behalf of Retina India, a registered
 Charitable
  Trust, which is an umbrella organization dedicated to research and
 treatment
  of retinal disorders, with additional focus to promote public
 health
  awareness, education and advocacy in the field of retinal disorders
 that can
  lead to visual impairment.


  You are cordially invited to attend a open discussion forum being
 conducted
  by Retina India for the benefit of patients with retinal disorders
 and their
  families. Retinal ailments include retinitis pigmentosa and its
 allied
  disorders, macular degeneration, diabetic retinopathy, retinopathy
 of
  prematurity, etc.


  Theme: Retina India - Open Forum of Discussion


 The meetings will be attended by some of the trustees of Retina
 India.
 During
  the meeting, details of the objectives of Retina India will be
 discussed,
  while the open forum will allow attendees to discuss what they wish
 Retina
  India should do to offer help to the patients and their families.


  In addition, during the meeting, two of the trustees (Dr Rajat
 Agrawal, an
  Ophthalmologist  Retinal Surgeon based in Los Angeles, and Dr
  Kumaramanickavel, an Ophthalmic Geneticist based in Chennai) will
 discuss on
  the latest advances in the field of clinical and genetic variations
 in
  retinal diseases, and the newer treatments.
 Best Regards,
  Retina India
  www.retinaindia.org

 --
 G. Vamshi
 PH Res : +91 877-2243861
 Mobile: +91 9949349497
 E-mail ID:
 gvamsh...@gmail.com
 Skype: gvamshi81

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Re: [AI] UGC grants for making colleges accessible

2010-01-19 Thread rahul cherian
Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for this information.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
InclusivePlanet.com

2010/1/19 SR Mittal srmit...@gmail.com

 You may get the details from the website of UGC. There is a scheme called
 'HEPSN' (Higher
 Education Promotion of Students with Special Needs). Any college can get
 funding to build accessibility features in the college for students with
 special needs.

 Prof. Mittal.
 - Original Message - From: rahul cherian 
 rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:01 PM
 Subject: [AI] UGC grants for making colleges accessible


  Hi Folks,

 I understand from Subramani that UGC provides grants to colleges to make
 them accessible. Does anyone have the details of this? I have been tasked
 with making a leading college accessible for persons with disabilities

 Thank you,

 Rahul Cherian
 InclusivePlanet.com



 2010/1/19 Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.de

  Are recordings of any of the Retina India meetings available for those of
 us
 who could not attend?

 Geetha
 - Original Message -
 From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:19 AM
 Subject: [AI] Retina India meeting today at Nagpur


 Hi friends,

 Information about Retina India meeting today at Nagpur.
 Nagpur Tuesday January  19, 2010
 at4 PM
 Venue- Bhaskar Sabagriha,
 Bharat Nagar,
 Amravati Road,
 Opp. LIT.
 Nagpur ,
 RSVP -
 Mr.Gaurav Godbole Cell 9049990466 .

  This mail is being sent on behalf of Retina India, a registered
 Charitable
  Trust, which is an umbrella organization dedicated to research and
 treatment
  of retinal disorders, with additional focus to promote public
 health
  awareness, education and advocacy in the field of retinal disorders
 that can
  lead to visual impairment.


  You are cordially invited to attend a open discussion forum being
 conducted
  by Retina India for the benefit of patients with retinal disorders
 and their
  families. Retinal ailments include retinitis pigmentosa and its
 allied
  disorders, macular degeneration, diabetic retinopathy, retinopathy
 of
  prematurity, etc.


  Theme: Retina India - Open Forum of Discussion


 The meetings will be attended by some of the trustees of Retina
 India.
 During
  the meeting, details of the objectives of Retina India will be
 discussed,
  while the open forum will allow attendees to discuss what they wish
 Retina
  India should do to offer help to the patients and their families.


  In addition, during the meeting, two of the trustees (Dr Rajat
 Agrawal, an
  Ophthalmologist  Retinal Surgeon based in Los Angeles, and Dr
  Kumaramanickavel, an Ophthalmic Geneticist based in Chennai) will
 discuss on
  the latest advances in the field of clinical and genetic variations
 in
  retinal diseases, and the newer treatments.
 Best Regards,
  Retina India
  www.retinaindia.org

 --
 G. Vamshi
 PH Res : +91 877-2243861
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Re: [AI] UGC grants for making colleges accessible

2010-01-19 Thread rahul cherian
Dear Mr. Naidu,

Thank you very much for the detailed information. I have forwarded it to my
college. I have been campaigning to get the college to become accessible for
more than a year and finally they seem to ready to do it.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
InclusivePlanet.com

2010/1/19 Janardhana Naidu janardhananaid...@gmail.com

 Hello Sir,
 I am here with pasting some more details of the scheme HIGHER EDUCATION FOR
 PERSONS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS (HEPSN) for the benefit of our members who are
 pursuing higher education.

 The HEPSN scheme is basically meant for creating an environment at the
 higher education institutions including Universities to enrich higher
 education learning experiences of differently-abled persons. Creating
 awareness about the capabilities of differently-abled persons, constructing
 facilities aimed at improving accessibility, purchase of equipment to enrich
 learning, etc., are the broad categories of assistance under this scheme.
 The university/college should have enrolled a minimum of 10 disabled
 persons, including persons with visual impairment, hearing impairment, and
 locomotors disability, etc., in its various courses to avail the schemes.
 The HEPSN scheme has three components. They are enumerated below.
 Component 1 Establishment of Enabling Units for differently-abled persons
 Component 2 Providing Access to Differently-abled persons
 Component 3 Providing Special Equipment to augment Educational Services for
 Differently-abled Persons.
 For more details: www.ugc.ac.in
 With best wishes,
 Janardhana Naidu.
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  You may get the details from the website of UGC. There is a scheme called
 'HEPSN' (Higher
 Education Promotion of Students with Special Needs). Any college can get
 funding to build accessibility features in the college for students with
 special needs.

 Prof. Mittal.
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:01 PM
 Subject: [AI] UGC grants for making colleges accessible


  Hi Folks,

 I understand from Subramani that UGC provides grants to colleges to make
 them accessible. Does anyone have the details of this? I have been tasked
 with making a leading college accessible for persons with disabilities

 Thank you,

 Rahul Cherian
 InclusivePlanet.com



 2010/1/19 Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.de

  Are recordings of any of the Retina India meetings available for those
 of
 us
 who could not attend?

 Geetha
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 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:19 AM
 Subject: [AI] Retina India meeting today at Nagpur


 Hi friends,

 Information about Retina India meeting today at Nagpur.
 Nagpur Tuesday January  19, 2010
 at4 PM
 Venue- Bhaskar Sabagriha,
 Bharat Nagar,
 Amravati Road,
 Opp. LIT.
 Nagpur ,
 RSVP -
 Mr.Gaurav Godbole Cell 9049990466 .

  This mail is being sent on behalf of Retina India, a registered
 Charitable
  Trust, which is an umbrella organization dedicated to research and
 treatment
  of retinal disorders, with additional focus to promote public
 health
  awareness, education and advocacy in the field of retinal disorders
 that can
  lead to visual impairment.


  You are cordially invited to attend a open discussion forum being
 conducted
  by Retina India for the benefit of patients with retinal disorders
 and their
  families. Retinal ailments include retinitis pigmentosa and its
 allied
  disorders, macular degeneration, diabetic retinopathy, retinopathy
 of
  prematurity, etc.


  Theme: Retina India - Open Forum of Discussion


 The meetings will be attended by some of the trustees of Retina
 India.
 During
  the meeting, details of the objectives of Retina India will be
 discussed,
  while the open forum will allow attendees to discuss what they wish
 Retina
  India should do to offer help to the patients and their families.


  In addition, during the meeting, two of the trustees (Dr Rajat
 Agrawal, an
  Ophthalmologist  Retinal Surgeon based in Los Angeles, and Dr
  Kumaramanickavel, an Ophthalmic Geneticist based in Chennai) will
 discuss on
  the latest advances in the field of clinical and genetic variations
 in
  retinal diseases, and the newer treatments.
 Best Regards,
  Retina India
  www.retinaindia.org

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[AI] Right to Read

2010-01-13 Thread rahul cherian
Dear AccessIndians,

Support the Right to Read Campaign by signing the declaration online at
www.righttoread.in. About 500 people have already signed the declaration.
Spread the word and ask all your friends and family to sign the declaration
online as well. As Harish rightly mentioned, reading is our birthright and
we shall have it. Let us stand united at this critical juncture when
Parliament is going to take up the matter. If we miss the opportunity now we
will have to wait another 10 years before we can convince the government to
make another amendment to the copyright act.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
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 Ccontact details of Dr Natarajan of Aditya jyot eye hospital at
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 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:50:42 +0530
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 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help required from all Delhi Members!
 Message-ID: 1d5859c0d9a54f15ac386df1c8de9...@kotian
 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=response

 Dear Nirmita

 Yes, this should be of utmost concern to each and every blind person. This
 is indeed a moment to act and not to pretend to contemplate and be an
 armchair philosopher.

 We should take this up with the same zeal when our forefathers stood up to
 the clarion call of freedom is my birthright and I shall have it.

 Right to read is now my birthright and I too shall have it.

 Let us keep any misgivings if any in the back burner and with a single
 purpose stand up and rise to the occasion.

 This is a historical moment for the blind and involvement from every 8 to
 80
 would be required. It should really shake up and wake up all the persons
 concerned. Mere wishing and lip service  won't take us anywhere. We must
 have a proper strategy, planning and execution. Time is really short and we
 shall have to act quickly.

 You are free to use this platform, besides, let us know if there is
 anything
 that we can do.

 AccessIndia lends its full support to this cause.

 We need books in an accessible form on the very day the print version is
 published.

 To this we commit ourselves.

 Harish Kotian
 Moderator
 AccessIndia.

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 From: Nirmita Narasimhan nirmit...@googlemail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:35 PM
 Subject: [AI] Urgent help required from all Delhi Members!


  Dear Friends,
 
  Do you know how many books are published each year?
 
  How many are available in accessible formats?
 
  How many people in India cannot read print?
 
  What does our law say on the subject?
 
  What does our Government say?
 
  What are we doing about it?
 
 
 
  Industry statistics reveal that there are about 80,000-100,000 books
  published each year in India. Out of these, barely 800 books may be
  available in accessible formats for persons who cannot read print. India
  has approximately 70 million or more people who cannot read print because
  they are blind, have dyslexia or have cerebral palsy or some other form
 of
  physical, cognitive or sensory disability which prevents them from
 holding
  or turning the pages of a book. Our Copyright Act does not have any
  provision which permits books to be converted in to formats which they
 can
  read. So organisations have been converting books only after getting
  permission or on their own out of a need to sustain the intellectual
 needs
  of the community for pursuing

Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 44, Issue 113

2009-12-31 Thread rahul cherian
Copyright Amendment

Dear Mr. Annavaram,

Over the last few months we have been working closely with the HRD ministry
and we managed to procure a meeting with Mr. Sibal. We went as a delegation
of 8 or so people including Mr. Manocha, Mr. Tareporevala, Nirmita, Shamnad
Basheer, Ketam Kothari, myself to meet Mr. Sibal and managed to get our
point across.

The exact wording of the proposed amendment is not yet clear but the gist of
the proposed
amendments are as follows:

1) Fair use exceptions for conversion and distribution of material in
formats specially
designed for persons with disabilities. These formats would include Braille
and sign
language. This exception is automatic.

2) for other formats such as e-text or audio, applications would have to be
filed with
the copyright board and permissions will be granted.

We have filed letters to Mr. Sibal saying that the current wordings which
were proposed
after our meeting with Mr. Sibal is discriminatory to persons with dyslexia,
people with
cerebral palsy, the late blind etc. because the exception would be available
only to those who know
Braille and the requirement for permission from the copyright board is
cumbersome and
stands in the way of the right to read of such persons. We are working
with several
eminent jurists and senior politicians to ensure that the amendments, when
they are
approved by Parliament meets the requirements of all persons with disability
and not only
those persons who know Braille. We are also keeping open the option of
filing a suit for
violation of fundamental rights.

I had circulated our research paper on this list some time ago. Do let me
know if you want me to resend this to you.

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian
Inclusive Planet

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   2. Re: Copyright Act-1957: amendment bill approved (Annavaram)
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   4. Hello to all from Rinku (rinku JOSHI)


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 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:54:19 +0530
 From: Swatisinha swatisinh...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [AI] help needed in removing heading in MS-Word.
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Message-ID: 4b3cb43b.9413f30a.6b32.9...@mx.google.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

 1 Select the text.
 2 Go to edit menu by pressing alt+E.
 3 Now press A, then your curser position will come on format.
 4 Now press F to remove the existing formatting of the selected text.
 Hopes this works.
 With regards,
 Swati Sinha

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sudeshna
 Bhattacharya
 Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:11 PM
 To: Access India
 Subject: [AI] help needed in removing heading in MS-Word.


 Dear friends,

 First of all, wish you all a very happy and prosperous new year 2010..

 Now, could you please let me know, how I can remove the heading style from
 some text once created in MS-Word? usually the heading style is given to a
 text by selecting the text and then pressing alt-cntrl-1 (for heading level
 1), but I can't change this style in any way..

 thanks and regards,

 Sudeshna Bhattacharya.

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 Hi,

 the proposed amendment has already been carried out, and nothing
 significant
 seems to have happened with respect to print accessibility

[AI] Introduction and legal research on Right to Knowledge of persons with print impairment - Call for feedback

2009-11-26 Thread Rahul Cherian - Inclusive Planet
Dear All,
This is a kind of introductory mail from me to the list. My name is Rahul
Cherian. I am a copyright lawyer and one of the co-founders of bookbole.com.
I have had the opportunity to interact with a few of the people on this list
including Mr. Manocha, Dr. Sam, Ketan, Kanchan, Amiyo, Prasant, Moiz, Abdul,
Prof Sivaraman and others.  But I have not met the large majority of you and
I take this opportunity to say hello to this fantastic group.
I have been involved with disability, access and related issues only for a
few months although I have been physically disabled from the time I was
about 3 or so. Till recently I was living a so-called “ordinary” life
running my own law firm and advising multinational companies on various
copyright-related issues.
However, all this changed last year when I was invited by the World Blind
Union to help draft the proposed WIPO Treaty for Improved Access for Blind,
Visually Impaired and other Reading Disabled Persons to provide universal
amendments to copyrights laws so that persons with print impairment can
access reading material.
That’s when I realized that the single biggest problem faced by a person
with disability is one of access. In my case it is access to buildings (I
use crutches), while in the case of a person with visual impairment it is
access to reading materials. The consequences of the lack of access are the
same – exclusion.
Whilst I would ideally like every place I visit to be physically accessible,
I know that’s it not practically possible. But being a copyright lawyer I
thought it is very much possible to bring about a change in the copyright
laws to make material accessible to the visually impaired.
That’s when I got in touch with like-minded lawyers who wanted to look at
the concept of the Right to Knowledge from a constitutional framework.
Towards this end a group of us from the Centre for Internet and Society, the
Alternate Law Forum, and the National University of Juridical Sciences and
Inclusive Planet’s policy wing came together to work on a detailed legal
research paper on the Right to Knowledge of Print Impaired Persons and the
Case for amendment of the Copyright regime.
This document is now almost ready and available on
http://www.bookbole.com/en/book/426541. It would be great if those of you
who are interested in the legal aspects of equal access could go through it
and send your feedback. I expect that this document will form the backbone
for any legal discussion in this area. I believe that if we put our heads
together there is nothing we cannot achieve.
For those of you don’t have the time to go through the legalese of the
document (pardon the legalese but it could not be avoided since it a legal
research paper (smile) may I request you to go through a  blog post by one
of the copyright lawyers heading the initiative Shamnad Basheer who also
teaches Intellectual Property at the National University of Juridical
Sciences. The blog is available at
http://spicyipindia.blogspot.com/2009/11/copyright-access-for-disabled-and.h
tml

Warm Regards,

Rahul Cherian
www.bookbole.com
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Re: [AI] Need Powerpoint help urgently

2008-07-16 Thread Rahul Cherian

Hello Abdul,

I think in insert in the tool bar you can insert sounds, either from the 
gallery, from a file or from a CD. you have the option to loop the sound till 
you want. Do let me if this is what you are looking for.

Best regards

Rahul Cherian Jacob
Mobile: 98403 57991


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 Subject: [AI] Need Powerpoint help urgently
 
 Hello list members,
 
 I am making a powerpoint presentation, in which I have given automatic slide 
 transition command. I also want a background music which should continue even 
 when the slide changes. Is this possible? Please help as it is very urgent.
 
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Re: [AI] what's cone distrophy.

2008-07-09 Thread Rahul Cherian

Hi Rajesh,

I did some googling and found the following links which might be useful.

http://www.afb.org/message_board_replies.asp?TopicID=490FolderID=14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_dystrophy

Best regards,

Rahul Cherian Jacob
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 Subject: [AI] what's cone distrophy.
 
 Dear Friends, 
 can any body throw some light on cone distrophy. what is it and any treatment 
 available or any medicine to prevent it from worsoning. 
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Re: [AI] Banks-Order dated 29 April 2006 in Pincha's case

2008-06-28 Thread Rahul Cherian

Hi ,

where can i find a copy?

Thanks,

Rahul Cherian Jacob

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 Subject: Re: [AI] Banks-Order dated 29 April 2006 in Pincha's case
 
 Thanks Got it.
 
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.
 
 
 
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  Will be grateful if someone sends me the order- scanned or not no problem. 
  Link will also do
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Re: [AI] Words specific to law needed

2008-06-26 Thread Rahul Cherian

Hi Shadab,

If you plan to use the legal language for any legal purpose such as filing of a 
suit or any agreement, you should refer to a legal dictionary. I sometimes use 
http://dictionary.law.com/. 

If there are any specific words you would like to know the meaning of, do let 
me know.

Rahul Cherian Jacob

Partner
IndoJuris Law Offices
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 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:06:01 -0700
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 Subject: Re: [AI] Words specific to law needed
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 If you haven't found it, then here is one site:
 http://www.indlii.org/Glossaries.aspx
 
 You can search for more sites like this by typing legal glossary in google.
 
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  Hi Friends - I just wanted to know that what are the
  specific words
  used in courts  and law languagte etc. Please tell me
  something about
  this jargon. It would be heartening if anyone can take the
  trouble of
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