Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains (An Additional Query)
No, as of now. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Viraj Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:52 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains (An Additional Query) Can tickets on concession be availed in online or telephone booking through cash card? - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains >I can only say that unfortunately, both the things are true. > > Rajesh > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rohiet A. > Patil > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:49 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in > trains > > Hi! > I would like to notice 2 more things. Some times partly blind persons face > problem in getting concession in railway fare dispite of having valid > concession certificate authorised by medical official. > One more thing is there is no information abailable regarding hp quota on > railway call centre (139). So that we have to look on the internet > compelsarily. > Regards, > Rohiet Patil > - Original Message - > From: "Asudani, Rajesh" > To: "K .RAGHURAMAN" ; > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in > trains > > >> Friends >> >> I am not at all amazed at the utter confusion prevailing about various >> facilities to disabled in Indian railways. >> So, following points are offered to clarify the matter: >> >> >> 1. Blind concession and HP quota are two different things: blind >> concession is available in first and second AC. at rate of 50% and is >> called handicapped higher class concession, and in third AC and sleeper >> class at the rate of 75% for both self and escort on production of valid >> railway concession certificate, and is called blind lower class >> concession. HP quota is a quota of two berths available only in sleeper >> class to the disabled persons including blind. Due to its terminology it >> is arbitrarily denied to blind travelers as rightly pointed out. they >> interpret the word handicapped as meaning only orthopedically disabled. >> So, we should insist on uniform nomenclature. Besides, a blind person can >> get concession in any class, and even berth in HP quota in sleeper class >> without escort unlike orthopedically disabled. >> 2. The handicapped or disabled coach is an altogether different coach of >> four berths attached at the extremities of wrack with a lot of lacunae, >> as >> said. >> 3. However, recently, railways is further confusing the matters by >> extending the scope of hp quota even to reserve those four berths in >> disabled coach, whereby two undesired things result: >> a. the person getting berths in hp quota may get them in regular sleeper >> class or in disabled coach. and >> b. the status of that disabled coach is reserved as well as ordinary, >> which results in chaos. >> >> 4. All this is in addition to arbitrariness which reservation clerks and >> supervisors indulge in, because any wrong issue of concession tickets is >> penalized by recovering the differential amount from their salary. And >> all >> this is again in addition to indiscriminate entry into disabled coach by >> all and sundry and greed of GRP AND RPF in expelling them at the precise >> moment of departure of train. >> Situation is slightly better in south, I think. >> >> >> Rajesh >> >> -Original Message- >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of K >> .RAGHURAMAN >> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:45 PM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in >> trains >> >> there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is >> no >> railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach. >> 2 >> the coach is totally disconnected from all other compartments that is >> there >> is no vestibule to move from one compartment to another. 3 no connection >> with the pantry car. 4 more importantly at the max only 8 passengers >> along >> with the escorts ca
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains (An Additional Query)
Can tickets on concession be availed in online or telephone booking through cash card? - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains I can only say that unfortunately, both the things are true. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rohiet A. Patil Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:49 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains Hi! I would like to notice 2 more things. Some times partly blind persons face problem in getting concession in railway fare dispite of having valid concession certificate authorised by medical official. One more thing is there is no information abailable regarding hp quota on railway call centre (139). So that we have to look on the internet compelsarily. Regards, Rohiet Patil - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: "K .RAGHURAMAN" ; Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains Friends I am not at all amazed at the utter confusion prevailing about various facilities to disabled in Indian railways. So, following points are offered to clarify the matter: 1. Blind concession and HP quota are two different things: blind concession is available in first and second AC. at rate of 50% and is called handicapped higher class concession, and in third AC and sleeper class at the rate of 75% for both self and escort on production of valid railway concession certificate, and is called blind lower class concession. HP quota is a quota of two berths available only in sleeper class to the disabled persons including blind. Due to its terminology it is arbitrarily denied to blind travelers as rightly pointed out. they interpret the word handicapped as meaning only orthopedically disabled. So, we should insist on uniform nomenclature. Besides, a blind person can get concession in any class, and even berth in HP quota in sleeper class without escort unlike orthopedically disabled. 2. The handicapped or disabled coach is an altogether different coach of four berths attached at the extremities of wrack with a lot of lacunae, as said. 3. However, recently, railways is further confusing the matters by extending the scope of hp quota even to reserve those four berths in disabled coach, whereby two undesired things result: a. the person getting berths in hp quota may get them in regular sleeper class or in disabled coach. and b. the status of that disabled coach is reserved as well as ordinary, which results in chaos. 4. All this is in addition to arbitrariness which reservation clerks and supervisors indulge in, because any wrong issue of concession tickets is penalized by recovering the differential amount from their salary. And all this is again in addition to indiscriminate entry into disabled coach by all and sundry and greed of GRP AND RPF in expelling them at the precise moment of departure of train. Situation is slightly better in south, I think. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of K .RAGHURAMAN Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:45 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is no railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach. 2 the coach is totally disconnected from all other compartments that is there is no vestibule to move from one compartment to another. 3 no connection with the pantry car. 4 more importantly at the max only 8 passengers along with the escorts can travel. this mail is not to harm or defame anyone but to highlight the real condition of the coach. so please think about this and take these maters also to the higher officials in the railways and ask for at least 40 seats and all other facilities like the sighted to have a decent and comfortabble journey. regards raghu. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway rank and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp quota. The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be taken up at higher levels of the concerned station by advocac
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
I can only say that unfortunately, both the things are true. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rohiet A. Patil Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:49 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains Hi! I would like to notice 2 more things. Some times partly blind persons face problem in getting concession in railway fare dispite of having valid concession certificate authorised by medical official. One more thing is there is no information abailable regarding hp quota on railway call centre (139). So that we have to look on the internet compelsarily. Regards, Rohiet Patil - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: "K .RAGHURAMAN" ; Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains > Friends > > I am not at all amazed at the utter confusion prevailing about various > facilities to disabled in Indian railways. > So, following points are offered to clarify the matter: > > > 1. Blind concession and HP quota are two different things: blind > concession is available in first and second AC. at rate of 50% and is > called handicapped higher class concession, and in third AC and sleeper > class at the rate of 75% for both self and escort on production of valid > railway concession certificate, and is called blind lower class > concession. HP quota is a quota of two berths available only in sleeper > class to the disabled persons including blind. Due to its terminology it > is arbitrarily denied to blind travelers as rightly pointed out. they > interpret the word handicapped as meaning only orthopedically disabled. > So, we should insist on uniform nomenclature. Besides, a blind person can > get concession in any class, and even berth in HP quota in sleeper class > without escort unlike orthopedically disabled. > 2. The handicapped or disabled coach is an altogether different coach of > four berths attached at the extremities of wrack with a lot of lacunae, as > said. > 3. However, recently, railways is further confusing the matters by > extending the scope of hp quota even to reserve those four berths in > disabled coach, whereby two undesired things result: > a. the person getting berths in hp quota may get them in regular sleeper > class or in disabled coach. and > b. the status of that disabled coach is reserved as well as ordinary, > which results in chaos. > > 4. All this is in addition to arbitrariness which reservation clerks and > supervisors indulge in, because any wrong issue of concession tickets is > penalized by recovering the differential amount from their salary. And all > this is again in addition to indiscriminate entry into disabled coach by > all and sundry and greed of GRP AND RPF in expelling them at the precise > moment of departure of train. > Situation is slightly better in south, I think. > > > Rajesh > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of K .RAGHURAMAN > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:45 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in > trains > > there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is no > railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach. > 2 > the coach is totally disconnected from all other compartments that is > there > is no vestibule to move from one compartment to another. 3 no connection > with the pantry car. 4 more importantly at the max only 8 passengers along > with the escorts can travel. this mail is not to harm or defame anyone but > to highlight the real condition of the coach. so please think about this > and > take these maters also to the higher officials in the railways and ask for > at least 40 seats and all other facilities like the sighted to have a > decent and comfortabble journey. regards raghu. > - Original Message - > From: "Asudani, Rajesh" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in > trains > > >> It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. >> The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway >> rank >> and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp >> quota. >> The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing >> to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not >> prevail upon them to do so, pr
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
Hello Janardan Here are my answers to your queries: 1. Do the orthopedically handicapped claim concision in handicapped higher class concision? R: Yes, they can. 2. Do the visually challenged claim for escort in handicapped higher class concision? R: Yes, they can, but it is not necessary unlike orthopedically disabled. 3. Why not the advocacy groups try for three percent reservation for persons with disabilities in railway reservations? R: I think you mean that berths in HP quota should be increased, for reserveing three % berths for persons with disabilities is not called for, as at any point of time such number of PWDs do not travel in trains, and this three percent results from confusing reservation in jobs and other schemes with railway reservation which is an altogether different concept. 4. Do you suggest any source for better understanding of the railway and air reservations for the differently abled? R: None to my mind, besides a piece of 2007 which I found on their website and which I had posted to accessindia, will send it if you require. Regards Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Janardhana Naidu Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:04 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains Hollow Sir, Let me thank you for sharing important and valuable information on railway reservation. may I submit the following few questions for clarification? 1. Do the orthopedically handicapped claim concision in handicapped higher class concision? 2. Do the visually challenged claim for escort in handicapped higher class concision? 3. Why not the advocacy groups try for three percent reservation for persons with disabilities in railway reservations? 4. Do you suggest any source for better understanding of the railway and air reservations for the differently abled? Thanks in anticipation. Janardhana Naidu. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: "K .RAGHURAMAN" ; Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains > Friends > > I am not at all amazed at the utter confusion prevailing about various > facilities to disabled in Indian railways. > So, following points are offered to clarify the matter: > > > 1. Blind concession and HP quota are two different things: blind > concession is available in first and second AC. at rate of 50% and is > called handicapped higher class concession, and in third AC and sleeper > class at the rate of 75% for both self and escort on production of valid > railway concession certificate, and is called blind lower class > concession. HP quota is a quota of two berths available only in sleeper > class to the disabled persons including blind. Due to its terminology it > is arbitrarily denied to blind travelers as rightly pointed out. they > interpret the word handicapped as meaning only orthopedically disabled. > So, we should insist on uniform nomenclature. Besides, a blind person can > get concession in any class, and even berth in HP quota in sleeper class > without escort unlike orthopedically disabled. > 2. The handicapped or disabled coach is an altogether different coach of > four berths attached at the extremities of wrack with a lot of lacunae, as > said. > 3. However, recently, railways is further confusing the matters by > extending the scope of hp quota even to reserve those four berths in > disabled coach, whereby two undesired things result: > a. the person getting berths in hp quota may get them in regular sleeper > class or in disabled coach. and > b. the status of that disabled coach is reserved as well as ordinary, > which results in chaos. > > 4. All this is in addition to arbitrariness which reservation clerks and > supervisors indulge in, because any wrong issue of concession tickets is > penalized by recovering the differential amount from their salary. And all > this is again in addition to indiscriminate entry into disabled coach by > all and sundry and greed of GRP AND RPF in expelling them at the precise > moment of departure of train. > Situation is slightly better in south, I think. > > > Rajesh > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of K .RAGHURAMAN > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:45 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in > trains > > there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is no > railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach. > 2 > the coach is totally disconnected
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
Dear Rajesh sir The situation is worse in south. I once had to travel with nearly 15 normal persons in the 8 ceater disability coach making journey of disabled difficult with problems while boarding, getting down, going to toilets etc. Another point I would like to stress upon is that the coach is placed either at the end of the train or just behind the engine. Once I asked a station master at Tirupati railway station to tell me whether it comes at the end or behind the engine in an incoming train. The poor man didn't want to tell because I would have to run the full length of the train in it's five minute halt if he was proved wrong. Also placing the disability coach at the extremes makes facilities on the platform inaccessible for the passengers. -- Vamshi. G Landline: 0877-2243861 Mobile: 09949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 On 2/5/09, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: > Friends > > I am not at all amazed at the utter confusion prevailing about various > facilities to disabled in Indian railways. > So, following points are offered to clarify the matter: > > > 1. Blind concession and HP quota are two different things: blind concession > is available in first and second AC. at rate of 50% and is called > handicapped higher class concession, and in third AC and sleeper class at > the rate of 75% for both self and escort on production of valid railway > concession certificate, and is called blind lower class concession. HP quota > is a quota of two berths available only in sleeper class to the disabled > persons including blind. Due to its terminology it is arbitrarily denied to > blind travelers as rightly pointed out. they interpret the word handicapped > as meaning only orthopedically disabled. So, we should insist on uniform > nomenclature. Besides, a blind person can get concession in any class, and > even berth in HP quota in sleeper class without escort unlike orthopedically > disabled. > 2. The handicapped or disabled coach is an altogether different coach of > four berths attached at the extremities of wrack with a lot of lacunae, as > said. > 3. However, recently, railways is further confusing the matters by extending > the scope of hp quota even to reserve those four berths in disabled coach, > whereby two undesired things result: > a. the person getting berths in hp quota may get them in regular sleeper > class or in disabled coach. and > b. the status of that disabled coach is reserved as well as ordinary, which > results in chaos. > > 4. All this is in addition to arbitrariness which reservation clerks and > supervisors indulge in, because any wrong issue of concession tickets is > penalized by recovering the differential amount from their salary. And all > this is again in addition to indiscriminate entry into disabled coach by all > and sundry and greed of GRP AND RPF in expelling them at the precise moment > of departure of train. > Situation is slightly better in south, I think. > > > Rajesh > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of K .RAGHURAMAN > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:45 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in > trains > > there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is no > railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach. 2 > the coach is totally disconnected from all other compartments that is there > is no vestibule to move from one compartment to another. 3 no connection > with the pantry car. 4 more importantly at the max only 8 passengers along > with the escorts can travel. this mail is not to harm or defame anyone but > to highlight the real condition of the coach. so please think about this and > take these maters also to the higher officials in the railways and ask for > at least 40 seats and all other facilities like the sighted to have a > decent and comfortabble journey. regards raghu. > - Original Message - > From: "Asudani, Rajesh" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in > trains > > >> It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. >> The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway rank >> and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp >> quota. >> The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing >> to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not >> prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be >> taken up at higher levels of the con
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
Hi! I would like to notice 2 more things. Some times partly blind persons face problem in getting concession in railway fare dispite of having valid concession certificate authorised by medical official. One more thing is there is no information abailable regarding hp quota on railway call centre (139). So that we have to look on the internet compelsarily. Regards, Rohiet Patil - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: "K .RAGHURAMAN" ; Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains Friends I am not at all amazed at the utter confusion prevailing about various facilities to disabled in Indian railways. So, following points are offered to clarify the matter: 1. Blind concession and HP quota are two different things: blind concession is available in first and second AC. at rate of 50% and is called handicapped higher class concession, and in third AC and sleeper class at the rate of 75% for both self and escort on production of valid railway concession certificate, and is called blind lower class concession. HP quota is a quota of two berths available only in sleeper class to the disabled persons including blind. Due to its terminology it is arbitrarily denied to blind travelers as rightly pointed out. they interpret the word handicapped as meaning only orthopedically disabled. So, we should insist on uniform nomenclature. Besides, a blind person can get concession in any class, and even berth in HP quota in sleeper class without escort unlike orthopedically disabled. 2. The handicapped or disabled coach is an altogether different coach of four berths attached at the extremities of wrack with a lot of lacunae, as said. 3. However, recently, railways is further confusing the matters by extending the scope of hp quota even to reserve those four berths in disabled coach, whereby two undesired things result: a. the person getting berths in hp quota may get them in regular sleeper class or in disabled coach. and b. the status of that disabled coach is reserved as well as ordinary, which results in chaos. 4. All this is in addition to arbitrariness which reservation clerks and supervisors indulge in, because any wrong issue of concession tickets is penalized by recovering the differential amount from their salary. And all this is again in addition to indiscriminate entry into disabled coach by all and sundry and greed of GRP AND RPF in expelling them at the precise moment of departure of train. Situation is slightly better in south, I think. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of K .RAGHURAMAN Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:45 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is no railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach. 2 the coach is totally disconnected from all other compartments that is there is no vestibule to move from one compartment to another. 3 no connection with the pantry car. 4 more importantly at the max only 8 passengers along with the escorts can travel. this mail is not to harm or defame anyone but to highlight the real condition of the coach. so please think about this and take these maters also to the higher officials in the railways and ask for at least 40 seats and all other facilities like the sighted to have a decent and comfortabble journey. regards raghu. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway rank and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp quota. The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be taken up at higher levels of the concerned station by advocacy groups and awareness spread. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of tirumangalam sandeep Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains good morning to all accessindia members recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me a ticket in the disabled quota which h
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
Hollow Sir, Let me thank you for sharing important and valuable information on railway reservation. may I submit the following few questions for clarification? 1. Do the orthopedically handicapped claim concision in handicapped higher class concision? 2. Do the visually challenged claim for escort in handicapped higher class concision? 3. Why not the advocacy groups try for three percent reservation for persons with disabilities in railway reservations? 4. Do you suggest any source for better understanding of the railway and air reservations for the differently abled? Thanks in anticipation. Janardhana Naidu. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: "K .RAGHURAMAN" ; Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains Friends I am not at all amazed at the utter confusion prevailing about various facilities to disabled in Indian railways. So, following points are offered to clarify the matter: 1. Blind concession and HP quota are two different things: blind concession is available in first and second AC. at rate of 50% and is called handicapped higher class concession, and in third AC and sleeper class at the rate of 75% for both self and escort on production of valid railway concession certificate, and is called blind lower class concession. HP quota is a quota of two berths available only in sleeper class to the disabled persons including blind. Due to its terminology it is arbitrarily denied to blind travelers as rightly pointed out. they interpret the word handicapped as meaning only orthopedically disabled. So, we should insist on uniform nomenclature. Besides, a blind person can get concession in any class, and even berth in HP quota in sleeper class without escort unlike orthopedically disabled. 2. The handicapped or disabled coach is an altogether different coach of four berths attached at the extremities of wrack with a lot of lacunae, as said. 3. However, recently, railways is further confusing the matters by extending the scope of hp quota even to reserve those four berths in disabled coach, whereby two undesired things result: a. the person getting berths in hp quota may get them in regular sleeper class or in disabled coach. and b. the status of that disabled coach is reserved as well as ordinary, which results in chaos. 4. All this is in addition to arbitrariness which reservation clerks and supervisors indulge in, because any wrong issue of concession tickets is penalized by recovering the differential amount from their salary. And all this is again in addition to indiscriminate entry into disabled coach by all and sundry and greed of GRP AND RPF in expelling them at the precise moment of departure of train. Situation is slightly better in south, I think. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of K .RAGHURAMAN Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:45 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is no railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach. 2 the coach is totally disconnected from all other compartments that is there is no vestibule to move from one compartment to another. 3 no connection with the pantry car. 4 more importantly at the max only 8 passengers along with the escorts can travel. this mail is not to harm or defame anyone but to highlight the real condition of the coach. so please think about this and take these maters also to the higher officials in the railways and ask for at least 40 seats and all other facilities like the sighted to have a decent and comfortabble journey. regards raghu. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway rank and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp quota. The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be taken up at higher levels of the concerned station by advocacy groups and awareness spread. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of tirumangalam sandeep Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains good morning to all accessindia members recently i
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
Friends I am not at all amazed at the utter confusion prevailing about various facilities to disabled in Indian railways. So, following points are offered to clarify the matter: 1. Blind concession and HP quota are two different things: blind concession is available in first and second AC. at rate of 50% and is called handicapped higher class concession, and in third AC and sleeper class at the rate of 75% for both self and escort on production of valid railway concession certificate, and is called blind lower class concession. HP quota is a quota of two berths available only in sleeper class to the disabled persons including blind. Due to its terminology it is arbitrarily denied to blind travelers as rightly pointed out. they interpret the word handicapped as meaning only orthopedically disabled. So, we should insist on uniform nomenclature. Besides, a blind person can get concession in any class, and even berth in HP quota in sleeper class without escort unlike orthopedically disabled. 2. The handicapped or disabled coach is an altogether different coach of four berths attached at the extremities of wrack with a lot of lacunae, as said. 3. However, recently, railways is further confusing the matters by extending the scope of hp quota even to reserve those four berths in disabled coach, whereby two undesired things result: a. the person getting berths in hp quota may get them in regular sleeper class or in disabled coach. and b. the status of that disabled coach is reserved as well as ordinary, which results in chaos. 4. All this is in addition to arbitrariness which reservation clerks and supervisors indulge in, because any wrong issue of concession tickets is penalized by recovering the differential amount from their salary. And all this is again in addition to indiscriminate entry into disabled coach by all and sundry and greed of GRP AND RPF in expelling them at the precise moment of departure of train. Situation is slightly better in south, I think. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of K .RAGHURAMAN Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:45 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is no railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach. 2 the coach is totally disconnected from all other compartments that is there is no vestibule to move from one compartment to another. 3 no connection with the pantry car. 4 more importantly at the max only 8 passengers along with the escorts can travel. this mail is not to harm or defame anyone but to highlight the real condition of the coach. so please think about this and take these maters also to the higher officials in the railways and ask for at least 40 seats and all other facilities like the sighted to have a decent and comfortabble journey. regards raghu. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains > It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. > The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway rank > and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp > quota. > The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing > to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not > prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be > taken up at higher levels of the concerned station by advocacy groups and > awareness spread. > > Rajesh > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of tirumangalam > sandeep > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains > > good morning to all accessindia members > recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets > with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list > was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me > a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually > impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about > the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he > refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and > shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave > dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available > for the VI persons or not > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ..
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
There is a special quota for the disable persons. If the train is running waiting list and if the seets are available in disabled quota, we can get confirm reservation. Rohiet - Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains Hi I think the question is not clear. As far as my knowledge is concerned, disabled quota is all about giving a ticket at a lower price. I am not sure whether we can ask for a confirmed ticket when there is no availability and is running waiting list. Please clarify this aspect. Regarding the classes in which concession can be availed, the concession is 50% in first and second a/c and 75% in all other classes. -- Vamshi. G Landline: 0877-2243861 Mobile: 09949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 On 2/4/09, tirumangalam sandeep wrote: good morning to all accessindia members recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available for the VI persons or not To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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There is a special quota for the disable persons. If the train is running waiting list and if the seets are available in disabled quota, we can get confirm reservation. Rohiet - Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains Hi I think the question is not clear. As far as my knowledge is concerned, disabled quota is all about giving a ticket at a lower price. I am not sure whether we can ask for a confirmed ticket when there is no availability and is running waiting list. Please clarify this aspect. Regarding the classes in which concession can be availed, the concession is 50% in first and second a/c and 75% in all other classes. -- Vamshi. G Landline: 0877-2243861 Mobile: 09949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 On 2/4/09, tirumangalam sandeep wrote: good morning to all accessindia members recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available for the VI persons or not To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Sometimes, it happen, when railway ticket Counter person think that they are supreme and so what they say, all are correct, although they are purely wrong and these persons are taught through strong complain against them to concerned authority. Surprisingly, some supervisors are of same nature, Such as: Last year, I sent my person for purchasing ticket to Shahadara Railway Reservation Building with mentioning in writing in top of reservation form: "Both births should be given under HP Quota." But, the Ticket clerk denied to do so with saying that VH persons are not allowed in this quota and Even though The supervisor lady Madam also supported his statement. Further, my person came back empty, then I wrote a complain to the Secretary of Railway, Rail Bhawan, New Delhi against the both persons and went in evening of same day for getting receiving a copy of my complain with claiming for paying fare for unnecessary rushing back in that reservation building due their ignorance. At that time, same reservation supervisor was not available, due to shifting duty hours, then the another Reservation Supervisor read my complaining application. She immediately phoned her and told the all fact and also described her about the possible result. Finally, the supervisor felt the mistake and requested me, not to forward my complain further and she also gave me my extra conveyance fare and the ticket was also given under VH quota in reasonable fare. Since then, I haven't faced same problem again in that reservation building. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: "Alok Kumar" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains HP quota is available only in sleeper class and nobody can refuse to give it VI person. --- On Wed, 4/2/09, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: From: Asudani, Rajesh Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" Date: Wednesday, 4 February, 2009, 1:56 PM It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway rank and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp quota. The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be taken up at higher levels of the concerned station by advocacy groups and awareness spread. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of tirumangalam sandeep Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains good morning to all accessindia members recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available for the VI persons or not To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Mess
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there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is no railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach. 2 the coach is totally disconnected from all other compartments that is there is no vestibule to move from one compartment to another. 3 no connection with the pantry car. 4 more importantly at the max only 8 passengers along with the escorts can travel. this mail is not to harm or defame anyone but to highlight the real condition of the coach. so please think about this and take these maters also to the higher officials in the railways and ask for at least 40 seats and all other facilities like the sighted to have a decent and comfortabble journey. regards raghu. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway rank and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp quota. The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be taken up at higher levels of the concerned station by advocacy groups and awareness spread. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of tirumangalam sandeep Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains good morning to all accessindia members recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available for the VI persons or not To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
Hollow Sir, Two births are allotted for the handicapped particularly second class sleeper in most of the trains. But some of the reservation clerks are not aware of handicapped quota. Due to lack of proper understanding of the term handicapped they refuse to issue tickets to visually challenged in the handicapped quota. They consider persons with locomotor disability as handicapped. They are suppose to type blind in place of handicapped while issuing ticket. But the facility is not extended to all reservation counters. But the department is extending the facility on demand. It would be better if you could approach and educate concerned station manager to provide reservation in handicapped quota. you can submit him a written complaint against the reservation clerk who refused to issue ticket in handicapped quota. Thanks and regards, G. Janardhana Naidu. - Original Message - From: "tirumangalam sandeep" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains good morning to all accessindia members recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available for the VI persons or not To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
Hi I think the question is not clear. As far as my knowledge is concerned, disabled quota is all about giving a ticket at a lower price. I am not sure whether we can ask for a confirmed ticket when there is no availability and is running waiting list. Please clarify this aspect. Regarding the classes in which concession can be availed, the concession is 50% in first and second a/c and 75% in all other classes. -- Vamshi. G Landline: 0877-2243861 Mobile: 09949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 On 2/4/09, tirumangalam sandeep wrote: > good morning to all accessindia members > recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets > with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list > was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me > a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually > impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about > the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he > refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and > shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave > dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available > for the VI persons or not > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Dear reverent members, The quota is provided by Indian Railway only in Sleeper class and not in any other class. S S Pathak --- On Wed, 4/2/09, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: > From: Asudani, Rajesh > Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains > To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" > Date: Wednesday, 4 February, 2009, 1:56 PM > It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. > The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling > them-railway rank and file-to enter the data in the system > for booking and selecting hp quota. > The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they > are not willing to key in the data in system, a blind person > single handedly can not prevail upon them to do so, > practically speaking and the issue should be taken up at > higher levels of the concerned station by advocacy groups > and awareness spread. > > Rajesh > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of > tirumangalam sandeep > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of > tickets in trains > > good morning to all accessindia members > recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve > tickets > with the railway concession form for the blind but the > waiting list > was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter > to give me > a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that > visually > impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on > asking about > the previous time that another person had given me in that > quota he > refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you > that time" and > shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or > leave > dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota > available > for the VI persons or not > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject > unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any > other changes, please visit the list home page at > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are > not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, > distribution, printing or copying of the information > contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it > are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by > error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and > immediately and permanently delete the message and any > attachments. The recipient should check this email and any > attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no > liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by > this email. > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject > unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any > other changes, please visit the list home page at > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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HP quota is available only in sleeper class and nobody can refuse to give it VI person. --- On Wed, 4/2/09, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: From: Asudani, Rajesh Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" Date: Wednesday, 4 February, 2009, 1:56 PM It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway rank and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp quota. The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be taken up at higher levels of the concerned station by advocacy groups and awareness spread. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of tirumangalam sandeep Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains good morning to all accessindia members recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available for the VI persons or not To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota. The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway rank and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp quota. The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be taken up at higher levels of the concerned station by advocacy groups and awareness spread. Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of tirumangalam sandeep Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains good morning to all accessindia members recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available for the VI persons or not To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
good morning to all accessindia members recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available for the VI persons or not To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
