[ActiveDir] User Security Problem

2003-06-06 Thread Tim Care
After searching further into an NDR 5.3.5 issue 
I was having with Exchange 2000 last week, it
looks like the user with the issue has incorrect 
security settings in Active Directory.  When I go 
to the security tab of the user properities, the 
check mark is missing from the Allow Inheritable 
Permissions from Parent box.
 
I then click to put the check mark back in.  A 
while later, when going back in to check the 
securities again, the check mark is gone, and any 
changes that I made to make this users security 
match other users are gone.  I am logged on with an
Enterprise Admin account while trying to make these
changes
 
Any ideas as to what is happening, and how I can get 
this security setting corrected.  Thanks for your
assistance.  

Tim Care
System Administrator
Electro Chemical Finishing
616-531-0670 x 102
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Re: [ActiveDir] User Security Problem

2003-06-06 Thread David Mills
Tim, the user is most likely a member of a protected group.  See this article:

Delegated Permissions Are Not Available and Inheritance Is Automatically Disabled
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817433

For a sample about how to manipulate the permissions on this object (since the GUI 
doesn't really work that well), take a look at:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=232199

I hope this helps...

- Dave

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Date:  Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:52:38 -0400

After searching further into an NDR 5.3.5 issue 
I was having with Exchange 2000 last week, it
looks like the user with the issue has incorrect 
security settings in Active Directory.  When I go 
to the security tab of the user properities, the 
check mark is missing from the Allow Inheritable 
Permissions from Parent box.
 
I then click to put the check mark back in.  A 
while later, when going back in to check the 
securities again, the check mark is gone, and any 
changes that I made to make this users security 
match other users are gone.  I am logged on with an
Enterprise Admin account while trying to make these
changes
 
Any ideas as to what is happening, and how I can get 
this security setting corrected.  Thanks for your
assistance.  

Tim Care
System Administrator
Electro Chemical Finishing
616-531-0670 x 102
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RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
It would entirely depend on if there is an underlying IP addressing scheme
that would lend itself to being subnetted - in this case there appears to be
one, as it used to be subnetted. So, in this case, you just create subnets
in AD that reflect the local group of IP's in each office.

You are correct, however, that if it's a truly bridged network (like the one
I mentioned) and there is no localized IP scheme, it can't be done.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Fugleberg, David A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
 
 
 If it's really bridged, as in one big, happy IP subnet, how 
 would you create sites ?  Maybe I'm just confused...happens a 
 lot lately. Dave
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:03 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
 
 
 I *think* the default is 300 minutes, but can be configured 
 down as low as 15 minutes.
 
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 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:49 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
  
  
  Raymond,
  
  If you can set up meaningful sites (which I guess you can),
  then a potential strategy would be to disable the ISTG at 
  each site and set up manual connections between the remote 
  sites and one or more DCs at HQ. Ideally you would run DNS on 
  each of the DCs as well so that clients would keep DC 
  location traffic local. The only trick then would be to make 
  sure that when a DC fails at a remote site that the clients 
  would select a DC at HQ for authentication, instead of any 
  random DC on the network. I wrote an article for Windows.NET 
  magazine a few months ago about this topic; it was in the 
  March issue I think. There's a copy you can D/L from our 
  website: 
  http://www.netpro.com/forum/files/authentication_topology.pdf.
  
  The replication schedule between sites is by default every 15
  minutes; not quie immediate, but good enough for most 
  purposes. Its configurable by defining the schedule on the 
  connection object in AD SitesServices.
  
  HTH,
  
  -gil
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Raymond McClinnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:50 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
  
  
  Gil,
  
  That's kind of what I was asking.  I was thinking I could
  just have all of the remote DC's pull from the DC's here at 
  HQ, I just wasn't sure what problems I might run into.  MS 
  recommends using a site for each remote which makes sense, 
  but I wasn't clear on the time periods that sync would occur 
  during, or whether immediate changes would indeed be immediate.
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  Raymond
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil
  Kirkpatrick
  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:59 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
  
  Raymond, Roger,
  
  Perhaps I'm missing the significance of a bridged WAN, but
  why not disable the KCC and create your own connection 
  objects to control which DCs replicate with each other?
  
  -gil
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Raymond McClinnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:06 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
  
  
  We do, at least, have each of our remote sites with a
  different IP range since the network USED to be routed (long 
  story short, our core processor uses a serial printing 
  protocol that was not routable at the
  time)  We are redesigning the network this year so that we 
  can unf#$%^ ourselves.  But in the meantime changes we make 
  don't replicate, or un-replicate.
  
  On a side note, our network has broken even the most
  confident of men, the consultant that just left was on top 
  of his game before he worked on our network.  But he left a 
  broken and battered man with a lot of self-doubt (and as a 
  good friend).  
  
  And if the guy who 'designed' this network were still here
  Roger, having what you mentioned happen to him would be the 
  LEAST of his worries :-).
  
  Thanks again,
  
  
  
  Raymond McClinnis
  Network Administrator
  Provident Credit Union
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Roger Seielstad
  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:15 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
  
  

RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
I'd agree with you on the consultant.

I'm guessing that what you're seeing is the result of an inconsistant
replication topology. I'd even be willing to bet that what's happening is
the KCC is constantly modifying the topology, and its never fully acquiesed.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond McClinnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
 
 
 Bob,
 
 There have been some other weird issues, for instance it took 
 TWO days for a computer to finally be deleted in active 
 directory, DNS disappearing off of a couple domain 
 controllers after that and some name resolution problems 
 which may or may not be related.  
 
 
 I'm really beginning to think the consultant that came out 
 here didn't plan us out very well... -=groan=-
 
 Thanks,
 
 Raymond McClinnis 
 Network Administrator
 Provident Credit Union
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobel, Robert
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
 
 Is the returning group membership issue the only problem your seeing?
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Bob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond McClinnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:06 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
 
 Hello all,
 
 Does anyone know a good topology for a bridged WAN.  Once 
 everyone picks
 up their jaws, I'll continue.   We have approximately 18 DC's 
 at remote
 sites on various low bandwidth lines (from 384K to T-1).  By 
 default all the servers are trying to talk to each other and 
 there have been instances of us removing users from groups 
 and the user returning to the group.  
 
 I had thought of pointing all the remote controllers to the 
 DC's here at HQ.  and having the ones here at HQ talk amongst 
 themselves.  Is this a good idea, or is there a better 
 solution.  I appreciate any input y'all can give me.
 
 
 Thanks in Advance, 
 
 Raymond McClinnis
 Network Administrator
 Provident Credit Union
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
Is MMS3 general availability yet?

Roger
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 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 ADAM is intended AFAIK, to be free.  MMS 3.0 Standard  is 
 free, too - but it will only synch MS data.  E.g Forest GAL 
 to Forest GAL.  If you want to bring other directories into 
 the mix (iPlanet, NDS, etc) you will need MS 3.0 Enterprise.  
 That one is gonna cost ya.  ;-)
 
 Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Associate Expert
 Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sharma, Shshank
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:49 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 
 Thanks Justin, for the useful pointer. 
 I was reading through the March'03 issue 
 (http://www.fawcette.com/dotnetmag/2003_03/magazine/features/n
 ruest/page3.as
 p) and it refers to MMS. Will check it out in more detail.
 
 Also, are MMS and ADAM (Active Directory in Application Mode) 
 shipped as _free_ add-ons with Server 2003, or do they have 
 separate licensing, anyone ?
 
 ./Shshank 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jb Leney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:30 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Shshank, 
 
 MMS (Microsoft Metadirectory Services) seems to be a nice solution. 
 
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/directory/MMS/default.asp

The May 2003 issue of Windows  .NET Magazine has 4 page infomercial about
MMS. 

I can tell you from experience; one organization I am familiar with was
quoted millions of dollars to set up a UNIX-based single sign on. I can't
imagine MMS costing that much, however. 

Hope this helps and good luck. 


-Original Message-
From: Sharma, Shshank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:08 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

Hi everybody,
I am new to Active Directory realm.
Am looking for help on implementing single sign-on for multiple web-based
applications using Microsoft's Active Directory. Any and all pointers to
how-to's et al will be thankfully received.

-Shshank Sharma 


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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Flesher
Are there any other products out there similar to MMS? When you say clunky
to set up and configure, are we talking months?

Chris Flesher
The University of Chicago
NSIT/DCS
1-773-834-8477


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not sure if MMS 2003
has the same sort of requirements.

The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS was fairly clunky
to set up and configure, and unless you knew what you were doing, could tie
youself up in knots fairly quickly.  Obviously not something MS wanted to
let into the wild, as customers who had problems with it invariably came
away with a bad impression (through their lack of knowledge of the product).

..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major certified partners could assist
you with MMS design / implmentation / deployment (did some consulting on MMS
while @ Compaq/HP).

Glenn

- Original Message -
From: Mayet, Yusuf Y
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is considering
MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to assist you in the QA and
Design. (and they don't come cheap) Yusuf

snip

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RE: [ActiveDir] WinPE and RIS

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
Title: Message



That 
sounds suspiciously like XP Home...

WinPE 
is designed as a CLI envrionment to replace DOS.


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MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Joe L. Casale 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 
  11:44 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] WinPE and RIS
  
  Hey Roger, what ya 
  mean no GUI? I have it from my OEM pack, and use it many a time, it has a GUI. 
  It's a "light" version of windows, that's all...
  
  jlc
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Roger 
  Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 
  2003 7:25 
  AMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  
  
  WinPE is a full 
  32-Bit command line based OS - meaning that in a nutshell, its XP without a 
  GUI.
  
  
  
  The upshot is that 
  you no longer need DOS drivers for anything - NIC, CDROM, etc. You can use the 
  same drivers that the final OS will use, which is a HUGE deal because of the 
  increasing lack of support for DOS drivers from NIC 
  vendors.
  
  
  
  Roger
  
  -- 
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  MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems 
  Administrator Inovis 
  Inc. 
  
-Original 
Message-From: De 
Schepper Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 
2003 5:59 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] WinPE and 
RIS

Hey 
all,



This may not be a 
question for this group, but I don't know where I can ask this 
question.



My question 
is:

Why using a RIS for 
installing WinPE?

Either I don't see 
why WinPE is used for, or I'm missing something 
here...




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Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread van Donk, Fred
MMS 3.0 is a lot easier then the old 2.2 version.
3.0 will be availible this summer and can be configured by the customer.
It's not that clunky and now comes with a nice wizard that helps you through the 
process. You still needs to know what you are doing because it's not really easy.
The biggest thing missing I think is a preview to see how the changes are going to 
look. 
I guess that's just an other reason to force us to get us to test this is in a test 
environment :-)

Fred


-Original Message-
From: Chris Flesher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu Jun 05 10:25:54 2003
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

Are there any other products out there similar to MMS? When you say clunky
to set up and configure, are we talking months?

Chris Flesher
The University of Chicago
NSIT/DCS
1-773-834-8477


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not sure if MMS 2003
has the same sort of requirements.

The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS was fairly clunky
to set up and configure, and unless you knew what you were doing, could tie
youself up in knots fairly quickly.  Obviously not something MS wanted to
let into the wild, as customers who had problems with it invariably came
away with a bad impression (through their lack of knowledge of the product).

..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major certified partners could assist
you with MMS design / implmentation / deployment (did some consulting on MMS
while @ Compaq/HP).

Glenn

- Original Message -
From: Mayet, Yusuf Y
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is considering
MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to assist you in the QA and
Design. (and they don't come cheap) Yusuf

snip

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[ActiveDir] Force Logoff

2003-06-06 Thread Ryan Wiley
Hello,
   I'm having a problem with the force logoff (Automatically log off
users when time expires) in my GPO.  I have all the users times from 10
pm on in to the morning to logon deny.  This is supposed to log them off
of their machine, correct?  Well is doesn't.  All the client machines
are XP pro.  All of this is a problem because periodically during the
night I get security events that the user is trying to log on during the
night after their logon time has expired; giving a false impression that
someone is trying to hack in.  Any ideas?
Thanks,
 Ryan
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Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread jim . katoe
MMS 3.0 definitely does not have a consulting requirement, its licensing was brought 
out before.  The enterprise version is 25k per processor, I believe.

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- Original Message -
From: ActiveDir-owner
Sent: 06/05/2003 04:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not sure if MMS 2003
has the same sort of requirements.

The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS was fairly clunky
to set up and configure, and unless you knew what you were doing, could tie
youself up in knots fairly quickly.  Obviously not something MS wanted to
let into the wild, as customers who had problems with it invariably came
away with a bad impression (through their lack of knowledge of the product).

..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major certified partners could assist
you with MMS design / implmentation / deployment (did some consulting on MMS
while @ Compaq/HP).

Glenn

- Original Message -
From: Mayet, Yusuf Y
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is considering
MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to assist you in the QA and
Design. (and they don't come cheap)
Yusuf

snip

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Re: [ActiveDir] WinPE and RIS

2003-06-06 Thread jim . katoe
Title: Message



I have the Select version and it runs the standrad xp graphical background with its only interface being a command prompt window. Not much of a gui --Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: ActiveDir-owner Sent: 06/05/2003 03:01 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WinPE and RIS
I
think there is difference between the OEM version and the version you get from
SELECT agreement.

Marc



From: Joe L. Casale
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 5 juni 2003
5:44To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hey Roger, what ya mean
no GUI? I have it from my OEM pack, and use it many a time, it has a GUI. It's a
"light" version of windows, that's all...

jlc





From: Roger
Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02,
2003 7:25
AMTo:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'


WinPE is a full 32-Bit
command line based OS - meaning that in a nutshell, its XP without a
GUI.



The upshot is that you
no longer need DOS drivers for anything - NIC, CDROM, etc. You can use the same
drivers that the final OS will use, which is a HUGE deal because of the
increasing lack of support for DOS drivers from NIC
vendors.



Roger

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Inc. 

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  Hey
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  This may not be a
  question for this group, but I don't know where I can ask this
  question.
  
  
  
  My question
  is:
  
  Why using a RIS for
  installing WinPE?
  
  Either I don't see
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RE: [ActiveDir] WinPE and RIS

2003-06-06 Thread Rick Kingslan
Title: Message



The 
one that I have from my MCS folks is CLI only - no GUI. 
FWIW.


Rick Kingslan MCSE, MCSA, MCTMicrosoft MVP - Active 
DirectoryAssociate ExpertExpert Zone - 
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:14 
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have the Select version and it runs the standrad xp 
graphical background with its only interface being a command prompt window. Not 
much of a gui --Sent from my BlackBerry 
Wireless Handheld


 - Original Message - From: 
ActiveDir-owner Sent: 06/05/2003 03:01 AM To: 
"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
WinPE and RIS
I 
think there is difference between the OEM version and the version you get from 
SELECT agreement.

Marc



From: Joe L. Casale 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 5 juni 2003 
5:44To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hey Roger, what ya mean 
no GUI? I have it from my OEM pack, and use it many a time, it has a GUI. It's a 
"light" version of windows, that's all...

jlc





From: Roger 
Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 
2003 7:25 
AMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'


WinPE is a full 32-Bit 
command line based OS - meaning that in a nutshell, its XP without a 
GUI.



The upshot is that you 
no longer need DOS drivers for anything - NIC, CDROM, etc. You can use the same 
drivers that the final OS will use, which is a HUGE deal because of the 
increasing lack of support for DOS drivers from NIC 
vendors.



Roger

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Administrator Inovis 
Inc. 

  -Original 
  Message-From: De 
  Schepper Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 
  2003 5:59 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] WinPE and 
  RIS
  
  Hey 
  all,
  
  
  
  This may not be a 
  question for this group, but I don't know where I can ask this 
  question.
  
  
  
  My question 
  is:
  
  Why using a RIS for 
  installing WinPE?
  
  Either I don't see 
  why WinPE is used for, or I'm missing something 
  here...
  
  
  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
Best low cost alternative is called Simple Sync from CPS Systems. It also
doesn't come with the Microsoft only limitations of the free version of
MMS2003

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Flesher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Are there any other products out there similar to MMS? When 
 you say clunky to set up and configure, are we talking months?
 
 Chris Flesher
 The University of Chicago
 NSIT/DCS
 1-773-834-8477
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:10 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not 
 sure if MMS 2003 has the same sort of requirements.
 
 The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS was 
 fairly clunky to set up and configure, and unless you knew 
 what you were doing, could tie youself up in knots fairly 
 quickly.  Obviously not something MS wanted to let into the 
 wild, as customers who had problems with it invariably came 
 away with a bad impression (through their lack of knowledge 
 of the product).
 
 ..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major certified 
 partners could assist you with MMS design / implmentation / 
 deployment (did some consulting on MMS while @ Compaq/HP).
 
 Glenn
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mayet, Yusuf Y
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is 
 considering MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to 
 assist you in the QA and Design. (and they don't come cheap) Yusuf
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] WinPE and RIS

2003-06-06 Thread Celone, Mike
Title: Message



We 
have a copy of it from our Select agreement. It has the default WinXP 
background but only the command prompt can be used. Maybe the background 
is what he is referring to as the GUI?

Mike



From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:18 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The one that I have from my MCS folks is CLI only - no 
GUI. FWIW.


Rick Kingslan MCSE, MCSA, MCTMicrosoft MVP - Active 
DirectoryAssociate ExpertExpert Zone - 
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:14 
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have the Select version and it runs the standrad xp 
graphical background with its only interface being a command prompt window. Not 
much of a gui --Sent from my BlackBerry 
Wireless Handheld


 - Original Message - From: 
ActiveDir-owner Sent: 06/05/2003 03:01 AM To: 
"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
WinPE and RIS
I 
think there is difference between the OEM version and the version you get from 
SELECT agreement.

Marc



From: Joe L. Casale 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 5 juni 2003 
5:44To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hey Roger, what ya mean 
no GUI? I have it from my OEM pack, and use it many a time, it has a GUI. It's a 
"light" version of windows, that's all...

jlc





From: Roger 
Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 
2003 7:25 
AMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'


WinPE is a full 32-Bit 
command line based OS - meaning that in a nutshell, its XP without a 
GUI.



The upshot is that you 
no longer need DOS drivers for anything - NIC, CDROM, etc. You can use the same 
drivers that the final OS will use, which is a HUGE deal because of the 
increasing lack of support for DOS drivers from NIC 
vendors.



Roger

-- 
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Administrator Inovis 
Inc. 

  -Original 
  Message-From: De 
  Schepper Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 
  2003 5:59 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] WinPE and 
  RIS
  
  Hey 
  all,
  
  
  
  This may not be a 
  question for this group, but I don't know where I can ask this 
  question.
  
  
  
  My question 
  is:
  
  Why using a RIS for 
  installing WinPE?
  
  Either I don't see 
  why WinPE is used for, or I'm missing something 
  here...
  
  
  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] WinPE and RIS

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
Title: Message



So, 
its a pretty CLI then.


-- 
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MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:14 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] WinPE and 
  RIS
  I have the Select version and it runs the standrad xp graphical background 
  with its only interface being a command prompt window. Not much of a gui 
  --Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless 
  Handheld
  
  
   - Original Message - From: 
  ActiveDir-owner Sent: 06/05/2003 03:01 AM 
  To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
  WinPE and RIS
  I 
  think there is difference between the OEM version and the version you get from 
  SELECT agreement.
  
  Marc
  
  
  
  From: Joe L. Casale 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 5 juni 2003 
  5:44To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  Hey Roger, what ya 
  mean no GUI? I have it from my OEM pack, and use it many a time, it has a GUI. 
  It's a "light" version of windows, that's all...
  
  jlc
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Roger 
  Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 
  2003 7:25 
  AMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  
  
  WinPE is a full 
  32-Bit command line based OS - meaning that in a nutshell, its XP without a 
  GUI.
  
  
  
  The upshot is that 
  you no longer need DOS drivers for anything - NIC, CDROM, etc. You can use the 
  same drivers that the final OS will use, which is a HUGE deal because of the 
  increasing lack of support for DOS drivers from NIC 
  vendors.
  
  
  
  Roger
  
  -- 
  Roger D. Seielstad - 
  MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems 
  Administrator Inovis 
  Inc. 
  
-Original 
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Schepper Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 
May 31, 
2003 5:59 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] WinPE and 
RIS

Hey 
all,



This may not be a 
question for this group, but I don't know where I can ask this 
question.



My question 
is:

Why using a RIS for 
installing WinPE?

Either I don't see 
why WinPE is used for, or I'm missing something 
here...




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[ActiveDir] Remote Office Domain Controllers

2003-06-06 Thread Carstensen, Pete
We have several (6) remote offices, each with 5-10 users, that are
connected via 256K FR circuits back here to the corporate office.  At
the present time, they are used for FP services, wins, and dhcp.  We do
have plans to implement SMS in the future for software rollout and
desktop management.  All desktop clients are W2K as well as most roving
laptop users (the few remaining W9x laptops are being retired if they
can't be upgraded). 

I am in the process of replacing their older W2K server with a new one
that has sufficient disk space, processor power and a larger tape
backup.  The question comes up as to make them domain controllers or
not.  If I want to control replication, I need to set up a site which
requires a DC.  OTOH, having a DC out there in the first place increases
traffic too.  Almost all useful information for the remote users exists
at the corporate site (Exchange, AS400, corporate shared data, etc.) so
they are pretty much dead in the water if the line is down anyway.

I asked this question as last fall's TechEd and got a majority of
opinions that making the servers DCs would probably not be an advantage
to such a small group of users that are depending on the central system
anyway to offset the DC traffic.

Is this still the consensus?  Although I could promote them later in the
field, it certainly would be easier to dcpromo them there before sending
them out.


 
Pete Carstensen, MCSE 
Senior LAN Engineer 
CSK Auto, Inc. 
Phoenix, AZ 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread jim . katoe

RC1 is on msdn universal subscriptions.
It was supposed to be available to general public in gold release
90 days after Windows Server 2003 launch.






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To:
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Subject:
   RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Is MMS3 general availability yet?

Roger
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 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 ADAM is intended AFAIK, to be free. MMS 3.0 Standard is

 free, too - but it will only synch MS data. E.g Forest GAL 
 to Forest GAL. If you want to bring other directories into 
 the mix (iPlanet, NDS, etc) you will need MS 3.0 Enterprise. 
 That one is gonna cost ya. ;-)
 
 Rick Kingslan MCSE, MCSA, MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Associate Expert
 Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
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 Thanks Justin, for the useful pointer. 
 I was reading through the March'03 issue 
 (http://www.fawcette.com/dotnetmag/2003_03/magazine/features/n
 ruest/page3.as
 p) and it refers to MMS. Will check it out in more detail.
 
 Also, are MMS and ADAM (Active Directory in Application Mode) 
 shipped as _free_ add-ons with Server 2003, or do they have 
 separate licensing, anyone ?
 
 ./Shshank 
 
 
 
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 From: Jb Leney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:30 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Shshank, 
 
 MMS (Microsoft Metadirectory Services) seems to be a nice solution.

 
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/directory/MMS/default.asp

The May 2003 issue of Windows  .NET Magazine has 4 page infomercial
about
MMS. 

I can tell you from experience; one organization I am familiar with was
quoted millions of dollars to set up a UNIX-based single sign on. I can't
imagine MMS costing that much, however. 

Hope this helps and good luck. 


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Subject: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

Hi everybody,
I am new to Active Directory realm.
Am looking for help on implementing single sign-on for multiple web-based
applications using Microsoft's Active Directory. Any and all pointers to
how-to's et al will be thankfully received.

-Shshank Sharma 


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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Sharma, Shshank
And is it good for single sign-on implementations for apps having disparate
databases, Oracle, SQL Server et al ?
Any used-it-and-this-is-what-we-ran-into kind of stories, anyone ?

./Shshank

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Best low cost alternative is called Simple Sync from CPS Systems. It also
doesn't come with the Microsoft only limitations of the free version of
MMS2003

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Sr. Systems Administrator
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 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:26 AM
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 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Are there any other products out there similar to MMS? When
 you say clunky to set up and configure, are we talking months?
 
 Chris Flesher
 The University of Chicago
 NSIT/DCS
 1-773-834-8477
 
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:10 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not
 sure if MMS 2003 has the same sort of requirements.
 
 The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS was
 fairly clunky to set up and configure, and unless you knew 
 what you were doing, could tie youself up in knots fairly 
 quickly.  Obviously not something MS wanted to let into the 
 wild, as customers who had problems with it invariably came 
 away with a bad impression (through their lack of knowledge 
 of the product).
 
 ..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major certified
 partners could assist you with MMS design / implmentation / 
 deployment (did some consulting on MMS while @ Compaq/HP).
 
 Glenn
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mayet, Yusuf Y
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is
 considering MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to 
 assist you in the QA and Design. (and they don't come cheap) Yusuf
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Sharma, Shshank
Title: Message



Right, 
sure that's the context I was thinking about.
So, 
what are people typically doing, getting some stuff like this, and then cobbling 
together a single sign-on solution unique to themselves ? Or are there 
more generic tools out there, ofcourse ones which cost more and make life more 
easier ?




  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:49 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single 
  sign-onBTW MMS does 
  not strictly enable single sign ons. It is a meta directory and it can 
  enable the synchronization of directory information across different systems, 
  including in most cases usernames  passwords. However even with the 
  same username and password on different systems a user may very well be 
  required to sign on multiple times (using the same credentials). True 
  Single sign on can be very complex (not that a meta-directory with 
  provisioning isn't!)


RE: [ActiveDir] AD DNS: CNAME/Alias

2003-06-06 Thread David Mills
It is a known issue, but if you are running SP3 then you can set the reg key described 
in this article to resolve the issue:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;281308

- Dave

-- Original Message --
From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:26:26 -0400 

I think that's a known issue with CNAME FQDN's in UNC paths, but I can't
remember for sure. I've seen it before though.
 
 
-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis Inc. 
-Original Message-
From: Pelle, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] AD DNS: CNAME/Alias


Hello!  You all have been very helpful in the past and want to thank you for
your time in helping me with various issues! 
 
Please advise:  I'm in the middle of migrating from NT to W2K and have a DNS
issue:  I want to create a CNAME record in my AD integrated DNS that points
to a server that still resides in NT.  After I create the CNAME record I
click on Start | Run and type: \\testcname.FQDN file://testcname.FQDN/
and get this in response:  A duplicate name exists on the network.  
 
Has anyone encountered this scenario?   Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks! 
 
Joe Pelle
Systems Administrator
Information Technology
Valassis / Targeted Print  Media Solutions
35955 Schoolcraft Rd.   Livonia, MI  48150
Tel 734.632.3753  Fax 734.632.6240
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[ActiveDir] Exchange 5.5 and active directory connector errors

2003-06-06 Thread Rick Reynolds



While trying to install Exchange 2000 where the 
active directory is installed. 
I keep getting the following error. 

Setup has detected that the Exchange 5.5 site your 
server belongs to has not replicated to the Active Directory yet. You can either 
wait for replication to complete and try the upgrade again or upgrade a server 
from a site that has already been replicated to the AD.

I have tried all that I can find on the microsoft 
knowledge base, and am trying here before I spend the money to call Microsoft. 




RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
RSN*

-gil

*real soon now


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:21 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Is MMS3 general availability yet?

Roger
--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 ADAM is intended AFAIK, to be free.  MMS 3.0 Standard  is
 free, too - but it will only synch MS data.  E.g Forest GAL 
 to Forest GAL.  If you want to bring other directories into 
 the mix (iPlanet, NDS, etc) you will need MS 3.0 Enterprise.  
 That one is gonna cost ya.  ;-)
 
 Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Associate Expert
 Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Sharma, Shshank
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:49 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 
 Thanks Justin, for the useful pointer.
 I was reading through the March'03 issue 
 (http://www.fawcette.com/dotnetmag/2003_03/magazine/features/n
 ruest/page3.as
 p) and it refers to MMS. Will check it out in more detail.
 
 Also, are MMS and ADAM (Active Directory in Application Mode)
 shipped as _free_ add-ons with Server 2003, or do they have 
 separate licensing, anyone ?
 
 ./Shshank
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jb Leney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:30 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Shshank,
 
 MMS (Microsoft Metadirectory Services) seems to be a nice solution.
 
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/directory/MMS/default.asp

The May 2003 issue of Windows  .NET Magazine has 4 page infomercial about
MMS. 

I can tell you from experience; one organization I am familiar with was
quoted millions of dollars to set up a UNIX-based single sign on. I can't
imagine MMS costing that much, however. 

Hope this helps and good luck. 


-Original Message-
From: Sharma, Shshank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:08 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

Hi everybody,
I am new to Active Directory realm.
Am looking for help on implementing single sign-on for multiple web-based
applications using Microsoft's Active Directory. Any and all pointers to
how-to's et al will be thankfully received.

-Shshank Sharma 


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RE: [ActiveDir] Remote Office Domain Controllers

2003-06-06 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
From a network traffic point of view, it doesn't it makes sense to put DCs
at the remote sites. The concern I would have is the reliability of the
links... No linky, no login.


-gil

-Original Message-
From: Carstensen, Pete [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Remote Office Domain Controllers


We have several (6) remote offices, each with 5-10 users, that are connected
via 256K FR circuits back here to the corporate office.  At the present
time, they are used for FP services, wins, and dhcp.  We do have plans to
implement SMS in the future for software rollout and desktop management.
All desktop clients are W2K as well as most roving laptop users (the few
remaining W9x laptops are being retired if they can't be upgraded). 

I am in the process of replacing their older W2K server with a new one that
has sufficient disk space, processor power and a larger tape backup.  The
question comes up as to make them domain controllers or not.  If I want to
control replication, I need to set up a site which requires a DC.  OTOH,
having a DC out there in the first place increases traffic too.  Almost all
useful information for the remote users exists at the corporate site
(Exchange, AS400, corporate shared data, etc.) so they are pretty much dead
in the water if the line is down anyway.

I asked this question as last fall's TechEd and got a majority of opinions
that making the servers DCs would probably not be an advantage to such a
small group of users that are depending on the central system anyway to
offset the DC traffic.

Is this still the consensus?  Although I could promote them later in the
field, it certainly would be easier to dcpromo them there before sending
them out.


 
Pete Carstensen, MCSE 
Senior LAN Engineer 
CSK Auto, Inc. 
Phoenix, AZ 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
From what I've heard (no personal experience), MMS 2.x was a pain, MMS 2003
is quite easy for common scenarios. There are other meatdirectories (Novell,
CriticalPath, Siemens, IBM, etc.) They are industrial strength
metadirectories but are time consuming (read: expensive) to implement. There
are some basic sync products available too... HP has one from the Compaq
merger called LDSU. There is one called SimpleSync I think as well.

-gil

-Original Message-
From: Chris Flesher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Are there any other products out there similar to MMS? When you say clunky
to set up and configure, are we talking months?

Chris Flesher
The University of Chicago
NSIT/DCS
1-773-834-8477


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not sure if MMS 2003
has the same sort of requirements.

The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS was fairly clunky
to set up and configure, and unless you knew what you were doing, could tie
youself up in knots fairly quickly.  Obviously not something MS wanted to
let into the wild, as customers who had problems with it invariably came
away with a bad impression (through their lack of knowledge of the product).

..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major certified partners could assist
you with MMS design / implmentation / deployment (did some consulting on MMS
while @ Compaq/HP).

Glenn

- Original Message -
From: Mayet, Yusuf Y
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is considering
MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to assist you in the QA and
Design. (and they don't come cheap) Yusuf

snip

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RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange 5.5 and active directory connector errors

2003-06-06 Thread Garello, Kenneth









That message comes up if the install
account does not have the proper privileges.



I used the exchange 5.5 service account which
is a domain administrator to install.



Ken



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From: Salandra, Justin A.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:15
PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange
5.5 and active directory connector error s



Have you setup all your connection agreements correctly to replicate
two way from exchange 5.5 to AD?

Have you setup a Public Folder Connection Agreement?



-Original
Message-
From: Rick Reynolds
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:06
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange 5.5
and active directory connector errors



While
trying to install Exchange 2000 where the active directory is installed. 

I keep
getting the following error. 



Setup
has detected that the Exchange 5.5 site your server belongs to has not
replicated to the Active Directory yet. You can either wait for replication to
complete and try the upgrade again or upgrade a server from a site that has
already been replicated to the AD.



I have
tried all that I can find on the microsoft knowledge base, and am trying here
before I spend the money to call Microsoft. 










RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange 5.5 and active directory connector errors

2003-06-06 Thread Salandra, Justin A.









Have you
setup all your connection agreements correctly to replicate two way from exchange
5.5 to AD?

Have you
setup a Public Folder Connection Agreement?



-Original
Message-
From: Rick Reynolds
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:06
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange 5.5
and active directory connector errors



While
trying to install Exchange 2000 where the active directory is installed. 

I keep
getting the following error. 



Setup
has detected that the Exchange 5.5 site your server belongs to has not
replicated to the Active Directory yet. You can either wait for replication to
complete and try the upgrade again or upgrade a server from a site that has
already been replicated to the AD.



I have
tried all that I can find on the microsoft knowledge base, and am trying here
before I spend the money to call Microsoft. 










Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread jim . katoe
Typically, there are very expensive packages that a difficult to maintain which set up 
a wrapper around each application to handle authentication.  Some of these actually 
reduce security.

If you want to build a single sign on solution you have to get pretty deep into 
delegation and kerberos realms.  It completely depends on the applications and their 
methods of authentication and authorization.

--
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld



- Original Message -
From: ActiveDir-owner
Sent: 06/05/2003 01:29 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

And is it good for single sign-on implementations for apps having disparate
databases, Oracle, SQL Server et al ?
Any used-it-and-this-is-what-we-ran-into kind of stories, anyone ?

./Shshank

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:30 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Best low cost alternative is called Simple Sync from CPS Systems. It also
doesn't come with the Microsoft only limitations of the free version of
MMS2003

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Flesher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


 Are there any other products out there similar to MMS? When
 you say clunky to set up and configure, are we talking months?

 Chris Flesher
 The University of Chicago
 NSIT/DCS
 1-773-834-8477


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:10 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


 RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not
 sure if MMS 2003 has the same sort of requirements.

 The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS was
 fairly clunky to set up and configure, and unless you knew
 what you were doing, could tie youself up in knots fairly
 quickly.  Obviously not something MS wanted to let into the
 wild, as customers who had problems with it invariably came
 away with a bad impression (through their lack of knowledge
 of the product).

 ..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major certified
 partners could assist you with MMS design / implmentation /
 deployment (did some consulting on MMS while @ Compaq/HP).

 Glenn

 - Original Message -
 From: Mayet, Yusuf Y
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


 Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is
 considering MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to
 assist you in the QA and Design. (and they don't come cheap) Yusuf

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[ActiveDir] Please Help

2003-06-06 Thread Juan Ibarra
Title: Please Help





Hello, to all,


I have the following problem.


I have a user in a remote office that some how manage to screw up his system running windows 2000. What I did was configure a new HD and shipped out to him. I was able to log on to the NT domain as him, configure his email and load other applications. I do this all the time and never have a problem! Also added his nt user account to the local administrators group.

When he received the HD and replaced him on his computer, he is not able to log on as himself to the domain. We have a bdc on his remote office. I asked him to, and gave him permissions, to remove the machine from the domain and re add it. It will not work! He can't log in as himself, however, using his nt credentials he is able to join the computer to the domain, which proves that his credentials are correct.

I have never seen this problem and can't figure out the reason for this behavior.


Can you please help asap?


Thanks in advance



Juan





RE: [ActiveDir] Please Help

2003-06-06 Thread Anwer A. Abbas
Title: Please Help









Have you synchronized the BDC with the
PDC?





Anwer
 Abbas, MCSE,
CNA, MCP, CCNA, A+

IT Manager

Interactive Network for
Continuing Education

Phone: (609) 819-4152

Fax: (609) 409-5965

www.ince.com









-Original Message-
From: Juan Ibarra
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:05
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Please Help



Hello, to all, 

I have the following problem. 

I have a user in a remote office that some how manage
to screw up his system running windows 2000. What I did was configure a
new HD and shipped out to him. I was able to log on to the NT domain as
him, configure his email and load other applications. I do this all the
time and never have a problem! Also added his nt user account to the local
administrators group.

When he received the HD and replaced him on his
computer, he is not able to log on as himself to the domain. We have a
bdc on his remote office. I asked him to, and gave him permissions, to
remove the machine from the domain and re add it. It will not work!
He can't log in as himself, however, using his nt credentials he is able to
join the computer to the domain, which proves that his credentials are correct.

I have never seen this problem and can't figure out
the reason for this behavior. 

Can you please help asap? 

Thanks in advance 



Juan 








RE: [ActiveDir] Please Help

2003-06-06 Thread Sullivan, Kevin
Title: Please Help









I think that Anwer is correct. He was able
to add the computer account to the domain using his credentials because that
action has to go to the PDC which obviously has the account. His local BDC can
not do that and cant authenticate him because it doesnt know
about him yet. I am guessing that this is an NT 4 domain or a mixed mode AD
domain.



Kevin



-Original Message-
From: Juan Ibarra
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:05
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Please Help



Hello, to all, 

I have the following problem. 

I have a user in a remote office that some how manage
to screw up his system running windows 2000. What I did was configure a
new HD and shipped out to him. I was able to log on to the NT domain as
him, configure his email and load other applications. I do this all the
time and never have a problem! Also added his nt user account to the local
administrators group.

When he received the HD and replaced him on his
computer, he is not able to log on as himself to the domain. We have a
bdc on his remote office. I asked him to, and gave him permissions, to
remove the machine from the domain and re add it. It will not work!
He can't log in as himself, however, using his nt credentials he is able to
join the computer to the domain, which proves that his credentials are correct.

I have never seen this problem and can't figure out
the reason for this behavior. 

Can you please help asap? 

Thanks in advance 



Juan 








[ActiveDir] No logon servers available

2003-06-06 Thread DCamper
Title: No logon servers available





Hi,


We've just upgraded our NT domain to Windows 2000 Active Directory. The upgrade went very smooth with few issues. The problem that we're having is with VPN users. When working from home, users can access email and other applications but they are unable to access network shares. They get the following error message:

There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon request. 
The only way users are able to access the shares is by going to Tools | Map Network Drive or using 'net use' command. Either way the user has to provide login credentials. Has anyone encountered this issue before? If so, is there a fix? 

Any help is greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Demetria Camper
Technical Project Manager, IT Operations
Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc.



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RE: [ActiveDir] No logon servers available

2003-06-06 Thread Bryan Schlegel
Title: Message



Windows VPN or RAS? What are the clients 
running?

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
  Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:42 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] No logon servers 
  available
  Hi, 
  We've just upgraded our NT domain to Windows 2000 
  Active Directory. The upgrade went very smooth with few issues. The problem 
  that we're having is with VPN users. When working from home, users can access 
  email and other applications but they are unable to access network shares. 
  They get the following error message:
  There are currently no logon servers available to 
  service the logon request. The only way 
  users are able to access the shares is by going to Tools | Map Network 
  Drive or using 'net use' command. Either way the user has to provide 
  login credentials. Has anyone 
  encountered this issue before? If so, is there a fix? 
  Any help is greatly 
  appreciated. 
  Thanks, Demetria Camper Technical Project 
  Manager, IT Operations Takeda 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Wilkinson, Stephen (DrKW)
Just a fyi - On a MS sponsored Windows Server 2003 Readiness course last
week our guys were told that MMS 3.0 would cost £25,000 (may have been $s)
per processor.  Which is a stunning amount of money - in either currency


Stephen Wilkinson

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Typically, there are very expensive packages that a difficult to maintain
which set up a wrapper around each application to handle authentication.
Some of these actually reduce security.

If you want to build a single sign on solution you have to get pretty deep
into delegation and kerberos realms.  It completely depends on the
applications and their methods of authentication and authorization.

--
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- Original Message -
From: ActiveDir-owner
Sent: 06/05/2003 01:29 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

And is it good for single sign-on implementations for apps having disparate
databases, Oracle, SQL Server et al ?
Any used-it-and-this-is-what-we-ran-into kind of stories, anyone ?

./Shshank

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:30 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Best low cost alternative is called Simple Sync from CPS Systems. It also
doesn't come with the Microsoft only limitations of the free version of
MMS2003

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Flesher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Are there any other products out there similar to MMS? When
 you say clunky to set up and configure, are we talking months?
 
 Chris Flesher
 The University of Chicago
 NSIT/DCS
 1-773-834-8477
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:10 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not
 sure if MMS 2003 has the same sort of requirements.
 
 The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS was
 fairly clunky to set up and configure, and unless you knew 
 what you were doing, could tie youself up in knots fairly 
 quickly.  Obviously not something MS wanted to let into the 
 wild, as customers who had problems with it invariably came 
 away with a bad impression (through their lack of knowledge 
 of the product).
 
 ..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major certified
 partners could assist you with MMS design / implmentation / 
 deployment (did some consulting on MMS while @ Compaq/HP).
 
 Glenn
 
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 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is
 considering MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to 
 assist you in the QA and Design. (and they don't come cheap) Yusuf
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
That is correct, for the Enterprise version. Its roughly $25,000 per
processor. Interesting, that seems to be the per processor cost of most of
the MS Enterprise apps.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Wilkinson, Stephen (DrKW) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:18 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Just a fyi - On a MS sponsored Windows Server 2003 Readiness 
 course last week our guys were told that MMS 3.0 would cost 
 25,000 (may have been $s) per processor.  Which is a 
 stunning amount of money - in either currency
 
 
 Stephen Wilkinson
 
 Tel:  +44(0)207 4759276
 Mobile:   +44(0)7973 143970
 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 June 2003 21:14
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Typically, there are very expensive packages that a difficult 
 to maintain which set up a wrapper around each application to 
 handle authentication. Some of these actually reduce security.
 
 If you want to build a single sign on solution you have to 
 get pretty deep into delegation and kerberos realms.  It 
 completely depends on the applications and their methods of 
 authentication and authorization.
 
 --
 Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: ActiveDir-owner
 Sent: 06/05/2003 01:29 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 And is it good for single sign-on implementations for apps 
 having disparate databases, Oracle, SQL Server et al ? Any 
 used-it-and-this-is-what-we-ran-into kind of stories, anyone ?
 
 ./Shshank
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:30 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
 
 
 Best low cost alternative is called Simple Sync from CPS 
 Systems. It also doesn't come with the Microsoft only 
 limitations of the free version of MMS2003
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Flesher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:26 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
  
  
  Are there any other products out there similar to MMS? When you say 
  clunky to set up and configure, are we talking months?
  
  Chris Flesher
  The University of Chicago
  NSIT/DCS
  1-773-834-8477
  
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Glenn Corbett
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:10 AM
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  Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
  
  
  RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not sure if 
  MMS 2003 has the same sort of requirements.
  
  The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS 
 was fairly 
  clunky to set up and configure, and unless you knew what you were 
  doing, could tie youself up in knots fairly quickly.  Obviously not 
  something MS wanted to let into the wild, as customers who had 
  problems with it invariably came away with a bad impression 
 (through 
  their lack of knowledge of the product).
  
  ..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major certified 
 partners could 
  assist you with MMS design / implmentation / deployment (did some 
  consulting on MMS while @ Compaq/HP).
  
  Glenn
  
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  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
  
  
  Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is 
  considering MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to 
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  the QA and Design. (and they don't come cheap) Yusuf
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] No logon servers available

2003-06-06 Thread DCamper
Title: Message



All 
clients are running Windows 2000 Pro with SecuRemote v4.1.

  -Original Message-From: rick reynolds 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:55 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [ActiveDir] No logon servers available
  what os?? on the clients.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:25 
PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] No logon 
servers available

Windows VPN or RAS? What are the clients 
running?

  
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  9:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [ActiveDir] No logon servers available
  Hi, 
  We've just upgraded our NT domain to Windows 
  2000 Active Directory. The upgrade went very smooth with few issues. The 
  problem that we're having is with VPN users. When working from home, users 
  can access email and other applications but they are unable to access 
  network shares. They get the following error message:
  There are currently no logon servers available 
  to service the logon request. The only 
  way users are able to access the shares is by going to Tools | Map Network 
  Drive or using 'net use' command. Either way the user has to provide 
  login credentials. Has 
  anyone encountered this issue before? If so, is there a fix? 
  Any help is greatly 
  appreciated. 
  Thanks, Demetria Camper Technical 
  Project Manager, IT Operations Takeda 
  Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Thornley, Dave H
Title: Message



To 
provideweb based stuff you're looking for then we're in the middle of 
implementing Novell iChain - we run both NDS and AD, but I'm told it can be 
installed against either (or any LDAP v3 directory).

Basically it's a reverse proxy that sits between you and the web server, 
when it sees the web server requesting authentication it can fill in the 
dialogs/forms and return them to the server without the client ever seeing them. 
You'd probably need MMS (or similar) as well though to get the usernames and 
passwords synced.

cheers

dave

  
  -Original Message-From: Sharma, Shshank 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2003 18:32To: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single 
  sign-on
  Right, sure that's the context I was thinking 
about.
  So, 
  what are people typically doing, getting some stuff like this, and then 
  cobbling together a single sign-on solution unique to themselves ? Or 
  are there more generic tools out there, ofcourse ones which cost more and make 
  life more easier ?
  
  
  
  

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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:49 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single 
sign-onBTW MMS 
does not strictly enable single sign ons. It is a meta directory and 
it can enable the synchronization of directory information across different 
systems, including in most cases usernames  passwords. However 
even with the same username and password on different systems a user may 
very well be required to sign on multiple times (using the same 
credentials). True Single sign on can be very complex (not that a 
meta-directory with provisioning 
isn't!)


[ActiveDir] sidhistory of well known groups

2003-06-06 Thread Graham Turner
Dear all, have posted quite recently with no feedback so hoping this time
round to get a bit more info, 

still looking at strategy for migration of the well known accounts -
Domain Admins / Domain Users on which a lot of domain security is based. 

thought this was where the Group mapping and merging wizard gave us some
help. 

using it to map sourcedom\Domain Admins to targetdom\Domain Admins with the
migrate group sids option enabled - i assumed this would populate the
Sidhistory of the targetdomain group object with that of the source domain
sid and in doing so creating an entry in the ADMT database that will be
read by the security translation / user migration wizards. 

ditto for Domain Users 

However this ADMT process is failing with the following error codes; 

ERR2: 7085 
Replace failed rc=1371
Cannot perform this operation on builtin accounts 

for me am i not right to say that the above groups are not in fact builtin
accounts but well known accounts ??

saw one post back that documented the use of a manual process
(cloneprincipal) to acheive the population of the sidhistroy but this will
not allow us to acheive the requirement of security translation 

any clues ??

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RE: [ActiveDir] sidhistory of well known groups

2003-06-06 Thread Rick Kingslan
Graham,

You cannot migrate the well known groups from one domain (or forest) to
another.  The SIDS are universally the same.  ADMT will attempt, however the
well-known already exists, and you cannot migrate it.

Our solution was to take an inventory of who / what was member of the groups
(or included membership of) and recreate that via scripting, manual methods,
what have you.

If someone else has a solution, great - I hope that they do for the sake of
your time in collecting the data.

Otherwise, you do have a task - not monumental, but not small either.  BTW,
our environment - 15k desktops, 25k users.  Lots of groups.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear all, have posted quite recently with no feedback so hoping this time
round to get a bit more info, 

still looking at strategy for migration of the well known accounts - Domain
Admins / Domain Users on which a lot of domain security is based. 

thought this was where the Group mapping and merging wizard gave us some
help. 

using it to map sourcedom\Domain Admins to targetdom\Domain Admins with the
migrate group sids option enabled - i assumed this would populate the
Sidhistory of the targetdomain group object with that of the source domain
sid and in doing so creating an entry in the ADMT database that will be read
by the security translation / user migration wizards. 

ditto for Domain Users 

However this ADMT process is failing with the following error codes; 

ERR2: 7085
Replace failed rc=1371
Cannot perform this operation on builtin accounts 

for me am i not right to say that the above groups are not in fact builtin
accounts but well known accounts ??

saw one post back that documented the use of a manual process
(cloneprincipal) to acheive the population of the sidhistroy but this will
not allow us to acheive the requirement of security translation 

any clues ??

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RE: [ActiveDir] No logon servers available

2003-06-06 Thread Bryan Schlegel
Title: Message



All I 
can think of is check theWINS settings on the client and make sure the 
clients have the correct DNS servers when trying to login and that you can 
resolve server names to ip addresses when logging into your vpn 
solution.I would also check with yourVPN solution 
provider or someone who uses SecuRemote, sorry I am not familiar with that 
product. 

Another thing I've discovered with remote users is that everyone has a 
different setup at home. Is it working for anyone?Maybe there is 
some type of firewall preventing windows authentiation on their home 
routers.I think Active Directory uses some different ports to do Kerbos 
authentication.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q289/2/41.ASPNoWebContent=1NoWebContent=1

Strange that it would be working before and now it isn't thoughsorry 
couldn't be more help.

  
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  Friday, June 06, 2003 7:52 AMTo: 
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  servers available
  All 
  clients are running Windows 2000 Pro with SecuRemote v4.1.
  
-Original Message-From: rick reynolds 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:55 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
[ActiveDir] No logon servers available
what os?? on the clients.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bryan Schlegel 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:25 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] No logon 
  servers available
  
  Windows VPN or RAS? What are the clients 
  running?
  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 
2003 9:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
[ActiveDir] No logon servers available
Hi, 
We've just upgraded our NT domain to Windows 
2000 Active Directory. The upgrade went very smooth with few issues. The 
problem that we're having is with VPN users. When working from home, 
users can access email and other applications but they are unable to 
access network shares. They get the following error message:
There are currently no logon servers 
available to service the logon request. The only way users are able to access the shares is by going to 
Tools | Map Network Drive or using 'net use' command. Either way 
the user has to provide login credentials. Has anyone encountered this issue before? If so, is 
there a fix? 
Any help is greatly 
appreciated. 
Thanks, Demetria Camper Technical 
Project Manager, IT Operations Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. 
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RE: [ActiveDir] No logon servers available

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Chaveco
In the past I've had users check off the Dial Up Networking box as soon as the logon screen appears. Then the users selects a VPN session to dial/connect too. Give that a shot in a test environement.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




All clients are running Windows 2000 Pro with SecuRemote v4.1.

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what os?? on the clients.

- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Schlegel 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] No logon servers available

Windows VPN or RAS? What are the clients running?


-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] No logon servers available
Hi, 
We've just upgraded our NT domain to Windows 2000 Active Directory. The upgrade went very smooth with few issues. The problem that we're having is with VPN users. When working from home, users can access email and other applications but they are unable to access network shares. They get the following error message:
There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon request. The only way users are able to access the shares is by going to Tools | Map Network Drive or using 'net use' command. Either way the user has to provide login credentials. Has anyone encountered this issue before? If so, is there a fix? 
Any help is greatly appreciated. 
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RE: [ActiveDir] sidhistory of well known groups

2003-06-06 Thread Graham Turner
Rick, thanks for the reply post. 

membership of these groups not the issue - i take your point though 

it is more to do with the ability to translate the security of the
resources which as i understand wont happen without an entry in the ADMT
database - 

but thinking about it I don't need to do security translation as long as i
populate sidhistory of the target domain admins / users group objects using
alternative tools such as cloneprincipal ??

although that said this loses some of the genericness of a security
translation 

i assume the manual hack of the sidhistory to be a supported operation ?

as an aside i picked up from netiq.com a technote that suggests that it
does support the migration of sidhistory for these well known objects -
heres an extract - and by corollary thought that this would be supported
under ADMT2 

The API used to migrate SID History for Well-Known objects will only
migrate to a target domain object with the same RID. This has been
implemented by Microsoft for security reasons. For example, you can only
migrate the SID of the source domain's Well-Known Domain Admins group to
the SID History of the target domain's Well-Known Domain Admins group. You
could not apply it to any other group.

GT 






On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 07:57:07 -0500, Rick Kingslan wrote:

 
 Graham,
 
 You cannot migrate the well known groups from one domain (or forest) to
 another.  The SIDS are universally the same.  ADMT will attempt, however
the
 well-known already exists, and you cannot migrate it.
 
 Our solution was to take an inventory of who / what was member of the
groups
 (or included membership of) and recreate that via scripting, manual
methods,
 what have you.
 
 If someone else has a solution, great - I hope that they do for the sake
of
 your time in collecting the data.
 
 Otherwise, you do have a task - not monumental, but not small either. 
BTW,
 our environment - 15k desktops, 25k users.  Lots of groups.
 
 Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Associate Expert
 Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dear all, have posted quite recently with no feedback so hoping this time
 round to get a bit more info, 
 
 still looking at strategy for migration of the well known accounts -
Domain
 Admins / Domain Users on which a lot of domain security is based. 
 
 thought this was where the Group mapping and merging wizard gave us some
 help. 
 
 using it to map sourcedom\Domain Admins to targetdom\Domain Admins with
the
 migrate group sids option enabled - i assumed this would populate the
 Sidhistory of the targetdomain group object with that of the source domain
 sid and in doing so creating an entry in the ADMT database that will be
read
 by the security translation / user migration wizards. 
 
 ditto for Domain Users 
 
 However this ADMT process is failing with the following error codes; 
 
 ERR2: 7085
 Replace failed rc=1371
 Cannot perform this operation on builtin accounts 
 
 for me am i not right to say that the above groups are not in fact builtin
 accounts but well known accounts ??
 
 saw one post back that documented the use of a manual process
 (cloneprincipal) to acheive the population of the sidhistroy but this will
 not allow us to acheive the requirement of security translation 
 
 any clues ??
 
 GT 
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Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread jim . katoe
Title: Message



Since you are using AD, if you are using IIS you can use integrated authentication in many circumstances for single signon--Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: ActiveDir-owner Sent: 06/06/2003 07:53 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on
To
provideweb based stuff you're looking for then we're in the middle of
implementing Novell iChain - we run both NDS and AD, but I'm told it can be
installed against either (or any LDAP v3 directory).

Basically it's a reverse proxy that sits between you and the web server,
when it sees the web server requesting authentication it can fill in the
dialogs/forms and return them to the server without the client ever seeing them.
You'd probably need MMS (or similar) as well though to get the usernames and
passwords synced.

cheers

dave

  
  -Original Message-From: Sharma, Shshank
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2003 18:32To:
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single
  sign-on
  Right, sure that's the context I was thinking
about.
  So,
  what are people typically doing, getting some stuff like this, and then
  cobbling together a single sign-on solution unique to themselves ? Or
  are there more generic tools out there, ofcourse ones which cost more and make
  life more easier ?
  
  
  
  

-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:49 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single
sign-onBTW MMS
does not strictly enable single sign ons. It is a meta directory and
it can enable the synchronization of directory information across different
systems, including in most cases usernames  passwords. However
even with the same username and password on different systems a user may
very well be required to sign on multiple times (using the same
credentials). True Single sign on can be very complex (not that a
meta-directory with provisioning
isn't!)


[ActiveDir] FSMO roles issue

2003-06-06 Thread Alex Kulev
Hello AD Folks,

I've got a problem of configuring my firewall.
I need to know what FSMO role holders (PDC Emulator, RID Master, Infrastructure 
Master, Domain Naming Master, Schema Master ) must be contacted by every DC of the 
forest.
I heard somewhen the same problem reported. The people told that DCs were still trying 
to conect to some of the FSMOs but I don't remeber to what of the 5.
And what are the reasons of permanent connectivity to that FSMOs?

Thanks for your interest.

--
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Re: [ActiveDir] No logon servers available

2003-06-06 Thread rick reynolds
Title: Message



did you renew the certs on the server, and each 
client needs to request one as well

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:51 AM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] No logon servers 
  available
  
  All 
  clients are running Windows 2000 Pro with SecuRemote v4.1.
  
-Original Message-From: rick reynolds 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:55 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
Re: [ActiveDir] No logon servers available
what os?? on the clients.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bryan Schlegel 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:25 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] No logon 
  servers available
  
  Windows VPN or RAS? What are the clients 
  running?
  

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2003 9:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
[ActiveDir] No logon servers available
Hi, 
We've just upgraded our NT domain to Windows 
2000 Active Directory. The upgrade went very smooth with few issues. The 
problem that we're having is with VPN users. When working from home, 
users can access email and other applications but they are unable to 
access network shares. They get the following error message:
There are currently no logon servers 
available to service the logon request. The only way users are able to access the shares is by going to 
Tools | Map Network Drive or using 'net use' command. Either way 
the user has to provide login credentials. Has anyone encountered this issue before? If so, is 
there a fix? 
Any help is greatly 
appreciated. 
Thanks, Demetria Camper Technical 
Project Manager, IT Operations Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. 
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Re: [ActiveDir] FSMO roles issue

2003-06-06 Thread Dave Mills
I would highly recommend making sure that your FSMO role holders are fully
connected.  But if for some reason this is not possible, below is the answer
to your question.

Schema Master - Only needs connectivity if you are updating the schema.

Domain Naming Master - Needs full connectivity.  If it doesn't then
adding/removing domains will fail.

RID Master - Needs full connectivity.  RID allocation and cross-domain moves
will break without this.  If RID allocation fails then you will not be able
to create security-enabled objects on other domain controllers.

PDC emulator - Needs full connectivity, especially if it is the PDC emulator
for the first domain installed in the forest.  In addition to effectively
being the PDC for older clients it is also used for keeping time in synch,
ensuring that when a user changes their password they can use it across all
domain controllers almost immediately, and is also is involved in keeping
account lockout correctly functioning.

Infrastructure Master - Probably doesn't need full connectivity, but I
haven't ever tested it.

There's more information on what all the roles do and their effect of being
unreachable at:

Windows 2000 Active Directory FSMO Roles
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;EN-US;197132

Active Directory Disaster Recovery
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/ad/windows2000/support/adrecov.asp

I hope this helps

- Dave


- Original Message - 
From: Alex Kulev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:38 AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] FSMO roles issue


 Hello AD Folks,

 I've got a problem of configuring my firewall.
 I need to know what FSMO role holders (PDC Emulator, RID Master,
Infrastructure Master, Domain Naming Master, Schema Master ) must be
contacted by every DC of the forest.
 I heard somewhen the same problem reported. The people told that DCs were
still trying to conect to some of the FSMOs but I don't remeber to what of
the 5.
 And what are the reasons of permanent connectivity to that FSMOs?

 Thanks for your interest.

 --
 Best regards,
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread Sharma, Shshank
Title: Message



 To 
provideweb based stuff you're looking for then we're in the middle of 
implementing Novell iChain - we run both
NDSand AD, but I'm told it can 
be installed against either (or any LDAP v3 directory).

Web-based stuff, yes. But I am looking at 
apps that dont necessarily use a directory service (such as NDS or AD). The apps 
typically have thier own databases (Oracle, SQL Server et al.), and they manage 
authentication and authorization individually. 

The goal to do all that in a single entity 
is claimed to be simplified using tools such as P-Synch and Simple Synch, though 
I would love to hear from someone who has used something like 
that.

BTW, this group looks a great place to be. 
Kudos, all !

./Shshank


-Original Message-From: 
Sharma, Shshank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2003 
18:32To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
[ActiveDir] Single sign-on

  
Right, sure that's the context I was thinking 
about.
So, what are people typically doing, getting some stuff like this, 
and then cobbling together a single sign-on solution unique to 
themselves ? Or are there more generic tools out there, ofcourse ones which 
cost more and make life more easier ?




  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:49 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single 
  sign-onBTW MMS 
  does not strictly enable single sign ons. It is a meta directory and 
  it can enable the synchronization of directory information across 
  different systems, including in most cases usernames  passwords. 
  However even with the same username and password on different 
  systems a user may very well be required to sign on multiple times (using 
  the same credentials). True Single sign on can be very complex (not 
  that a meta-directory with provisioning 
  isn't!)


Re: [ActiveDir] EXMERGE

2003-06-06 Thread Rob Freeman
You need to get the Microsoft BackOffice Resource Kit, Second Edition in
order to use exmerge.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;174197

Rob Freeman
Fleetone

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To: ActiveDir (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] EXMERGE


 I need a copy of EXMERGE for Exchange 5.5, does anyone have?

 Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
 Senior Network Engineer
 Catholic Healthcare System
 212.752.7300 primary office
 917.455.0110 cell
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RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

2003-06-06 Thread jim . katoe


SQL Server has an option to use integrated authentication, it works well
in most situations. Extranets or public internet sites would be one
area where you would probably not want to use that option.






Sharma, Shshank [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
06/06/2003 01:15 PM
Please respond to ActiveDir

To:
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
   
Subject:
   RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


 To provide web
based stuff you're looking for then we're in the middle of implementing
Novell iChain - we run both
 NDS and AD, but I'm
told it can be installed against either (or any LDAP v3 directory). 

Web-based stuff, yes. But I am
looking at apps that dont necessarily use a directory service (such as
NDS or AD). The apps typically have thier own databases (Oracle, SQL Server
et al.), and they manage authentication and authorization individually.

The goal to do all that in a single
entity is claimed to be simplified using tools such as P-Synch and Simple
Synch, though I would love to hear from someone who has used something
like that.

BTW, this group looks a great
place to be. Kudos, all !

./Shshank


-Original Message-
From: Sharma, Shshank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 June 2003 18:32
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

Right, sure that's the context
I was thinking about.
So, what are people typically
doing, getting some stuff like this, and then cobbling together a single
sign-on solution unique to themselves ? Or are there more generic tools
out there, ofcourse ones which cost more and make life more easier ?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on



BTW MMS does not strictly enable single sign ons. It is a meta directory
and it can enable the synchronization of directory information across different
systems, including in most cases usernames  passwords. However
even with the same username and password on different systems a user may
very well be required to sign on multiple times (using the same credentials).
True Single sign on can be very complex (not that a meta-directory
with provisioning isn't!)


RE: [ActiveDir] sidhistory of well known groups

2003-06-06 Thread Robert Contreras
Graham,

The solution that Rick describes in his post is similar to the one that we
used when faced with this challenge.  Solving the domain admins issue was
rather easy because not many users where domain admins and file shares were
not acl'd using the domain admins group.  What you want to watch out for are
situations where you have granted access to resources via the domain users
group or added local administrative rights to a workstation via domain
users.  One way we solved certain issues was to create an nt4 group,
populate it, grant it access to resources and then migrate the group.

-- 
Robert Contreras, MCSE/MCT 
INS - International Network Services 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
C: 908-208-4580 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 8:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] sidhistory of well known groups

Graham,

You cannot migrate the well known groups from one domain (or forest) to
another.  The SIDS are universally the same.  ADMT will attempt, however the
well-known already exists, and you cannot migrate it.

Our solution was to take an inventory of who / what was member of the groups
(or included membership of) and recreate that via scripting, manual methods,
what have you.

If someone else has a solution, great - I hope that they do for the sake of
your time in collecting the data.

Otherwise, you do have a task - not monumental, but not small either.  BTW,
our environment - 15k desktops, 25k users.  Lots of groups.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear all, have posted quite recently with no feedback so hoping this time
round to get a bit more info, 

still looking at strategy for migration of the well known accounts - Domain
Admins / Domain Users on which a lot of domain security is based. 

thought this was where the Group mapping and merging wizard gave us some
help. 

using it to map sourcedom\Domain Admins to targetdom\Domain Admins with the
migrate group sids option enabled - i assumed this would populate the
Sidhistory of the targetdomain group object with that of the source domain
sid and in doing so creating an entry in the ADMT database that will be read
by the security translation / user migration wizards. 

ditto for Domain Users 

However this ADMT process is failing with the following error codes; 

ERR2: 7085
Replace failed rc=1371
Cannot perform this operation on builtin accounts 

for me am i not right to say that the above groups are not in fact builtin
accounts but well known accounts ??

saw one post back that documented the use of a manual process
(cloneprincipal) to acheive the population of the sidhistroy but this will
not allow us to acheive the requirement of security translation 

any clues ??

GT 
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RE: [ActiveDir] sidhistory of well known groups

2003-06-06 Thread Rick Kingslan
Correct - and I support what is being said by MS - that it will only migrate
to the exact SID on the receiving end.

However, maybe someone else can shed some light - I'm not sure what the
setting is to allow it in ADMT at the moment.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 8:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rick, thanks for the reply post. 

membership of these groups not the issue - i take your point though 

it is more to do with the ability to translate the security of the resources
which as i understand wont happen without an entry in the ADMT database - 

but thinking about it I don't need to do security translation as long as i
populate sidhistory of the target domain admins / users group objects using
alternative tools such as cloneprincipal ??

although that said this loses some of the genericness of a security
translation 

i assume the manual hack of the sidhistory to be a supported operation ?

as an aside i picked up from netiq.com a technote that suggests that it does
support the migration of sidhistory for these well known objects - heres an
extract - and by corollary thought that this would be supported under ADMT2 

The API used to migrate SID History for Well-Known objects will only
migrate to a target domain object with the same RID. This has been
implemented by Microsoft for security reasons. For example, you can only
migrate the SID of the source domain's Well-Known Domain Admins group to the
SID History of the target domain's Well-Known Domain Admins group. You could
not apply it to any other group.

GT 






On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 07:57:07 -0500, Rick Kingslan wrote:

 
 Graham,
 
 You cannot migrate the well known groups from one domain (or forest) 
 to another.  The SIDS are universally the same.  ADMT will attempt, 
 however
the
 well-known already exists, and you cannot migrate it.
 
 Our solution was to take an inventory of who / what was member of the
groups
 (or included membership of) and recreate that via scripting, manual
methods,
 what have you.
 
 If someone else has a solution, great - I hope that they do for the 
 sake
of
 your time in collecting the data.
 
 Otherwise, you do have a task - not monumental, but not small either. 
BTW,
 our environment - 15k desktops, 25k users.  Lots of groups.
 
 Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Associate Expert
 Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dear all, have posted quite recently with no feedback so hoping this 
 time round to get a bit more info,
 
 still looking at strategy for migration of the well known accounts -
Domain
 Admins / Domain Users on which a lot of domain security is based. 
 
 thought this was where the Group mapping and merging wizard gave us 
 some help.
 
 using it to map sourcedom\Domain Admins to targetdom\Domain Admins 
 with
the
 migrate group sids option enabled - i assumed this would populate 
 the Sidhistory of the targetdomain group object with that of the 
 source domain sid and in doing so creating an entry in the ADMT 
 database that will be
read
 by the security translation / user migration wizards. 
 
 ditto for Domain Users
 
 However this ADMT process is failing with the following error codes;
 
 ERR2: 7085
 Replace failed rc=1371
 Cannot perform this operation on builtin accounts
 
 for me am i not right to say that the above groups are not in fact 
 builtin accounts but well known accounts ??
 
 saw one post back that documented the use of a manual process
 (cloneprincipal) to acheive the population of the sidhistroy but this 
 will not allow us to acheive the requirement of security translation
 
 any clues ??
 
 GT 
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[ActiveDir] Authentication Problems.

2003-06-06 Thread Juan Ibarra








Hello to all,



I am experiencing the following problem at a client.



We forced all employees to change their password, by going
to AD users and computers and checking the box "user must change password
at next logon"



It appeared that everything worked fine until we started
noticing that while working at a computer and trying to access a share an error
message popped up.

Your password is incorrect and it wouldn't take the
new password.



We forced a sync with all the DCs
and still getting same errors.



Please help.



Juan








[ActiveDir] FW: Authentication Problems.

2003-06-06 Thread Juan Ibarra










Hello to all,



I am experiencing the following problem at a client.



We forced all employees to change their password, by going
to AD users and computers and checking the box "user must change password
at next logon"



It appeared that everything worked fine until we started
noticing that while working at a computer and trying to access a share an error
message popped up.

Your password is incorrect and it wouldn't take the
new password.



We forced a sync with all the DCs and still getting same
errors.



Please help.



Juan








RE: [ActiveDir] FW: Authentication Problems.

2003-06-06 Thread Juan Ibarra
Tried that many times and didn't work.

Juan

-Original Message-
From: David Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] FW: Authentication Problems.

reboot, logoff/logon, tried that?
--- Juan Ibarra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Hello to all,
  
 I am experiencing the following problem at a client.
  
 We forced all employees to change their password, by
 going to AD users and
 computers and checking the box user must change
 password at next logon
  
 It appeared that everything worked fine until we
 started noticing that while
 working at a computer and trying to access a share
 an error message popped
 up.
 Your password is incorrect and it wouldn't take the
 new password.
  
 We forced a sync with all the DCs and still getting
 same errors.
  
 Please help.
  
 Juan
 

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