Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange/Outlook Address Attributes
I do have to ask, since the field of country is already included, why you would want to do that. Why? As for the attributes, search Microsoft's technet site for that. There is a complete list of attributes added/modified by Exchange on their site. If you have a hard time finding it, please post back. AlOn 11/7/06, Frank Abagnale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to modify some of the fields which Outlook currently uses. I.e If I look at the properties of a user object via Outlook, I would like to change the Department field to displayCountry Unit. Any Ideas how to do this? Does anyone have a spreadsheet of Exchange Attributes and how they map with AD attributes? thanks frank Windows 2003, Exchange 2003, Single Domain. Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange/Outlook Address Attributes
Hi, If anyone have that list, kindly forward to me also. I had search that when I was trying to export the members of an Exchange group through ldifde or csvde. Thanks Regards, Dhiraj Haritwal System Administrator Sony India Pvt. Ltd. A-31, Mohan Co-operative Industrial Estate, Mathura Road, New Delhi - 110 044 Tel. No. : 011-66006276 Fax No.: 011-26959141, 26959143 Cell No. : 9873585408 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:41 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange/Outlook Address Attributes I do have to ask, since the field of country is already included, why you would want to do that. Why? As for the attributes, search Microsoft's technet site for that. There is a complete list of attributes added/modified by Exchange on their site. If you have a hard time finding it, please post back. Al On 11/7/06, Frank Abagnale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to modify some of the fields which Outlook currently uses. I.e If I look at the properties of a user object via Outlook, I would like to change the Department field to displayCountry Unit. Any Ideas how to do this? Does anyone have a spreadsheet of Exchange Attributes and how they map with AD attributes? thanks frank Windows 2003, Exchange 2003, Single Domain. Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. This email is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or telephone and destroy the original message. - This mail is sent via Sony Asia Pacific Mail Gateway.
RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Perc 5i and WinPE
Title: [OT] Perc 5i and WinPE
Hi Neil
We had the same problem previously while
loading drivers for Backupexec system recovery (winpe based) but we
uploaded the drivers found in dell downloads, also do note that the Broadcom drivers
needs to be downloaded as well (not detectable via PE)
Not sure if thats of any help..
Thank you and have a splendid day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono
Group Infrastructure Services Engineer
International SOS Pte Ltd
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65) 6330-9785
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006
12:41 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] [OT] Perc 5i
and WinPE
Has
anyone managed to locate drivers for the perc 5i (used by Dell PE
servers) which can be used with WinPE?
The
build guys here are struggling to get WinPE working with this controller.
Many
thanks,
neil
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange/Outlook Address Attributes
One approach is to create a dummy User and then view the attributes with ADSIEdit, or a browser like Softerra www.softerra.com Jerry Jerry Welch CPS Systems US/Canada: 888-666-0277 International: +1 703 827 0919 (-5 GMT) IP Phone (Skype): Jerry_Welch ( www.skype.net ) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haritwal, Dhiraj Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:22 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange/Outlook Address Attributes Hi, If anyone have that list, kindly forward to me also. I had search that when I was trying to export the members of an Exchange group through ldifde or csvde. Thanks Regards, Dhiraj Haritwal System Administrator Sony India Pvt. Ltd. A-31, Mohan Co-operative Industrial Estate, Mathura Road, New Delhi - 110 044 Tel. No. : 011-66006276 Fax No.: 011-26959141, 26959143 Cell No. : 9873585408 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:41 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange/Outlook Address Attributes I do have to ask, since the field of country is already included, why you would want to do that. Why? As for the attributes, search Microsoft's technet site for that. There is a complete list of attributes added/modified by Exchange on their site. If you have a hard time finding it, please post back. Al On 11/7/06, Frank Abagnale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to modify some of the fields which Outlook currently uses. I.e If I look at the properties of a user object via Outlook, I would like to change the Department field to displayCountry Unit. Any Ideas how to do this? Does anyone have a spreadsheet of Exchange Attributes and how they map with AD attributes? thanks frank Windows 2003, Exchange 2003, Single Domain. Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. This email is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or telephone and destroy the original message. - This mail is sent via Sony Asia Pacific Mail Gateway.
[ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> -- Sincerely,J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
RE: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
Microsoft Windows Scripting ISBN 0-7356-1981-6 Ed Wilson Managing Windows with _vbscript_ WMI ISBN 0-321-21334-3 Don Jones From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Packett Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Perc 5i and WinPE
Title: [OT] Perc 5i and WinPE
Thanks Freddy.
We had the drivers and were looking for the steps needed to
use these drivers with WinPE.
We've now figured it out and for the benefit of the
archive, here are the steps we used:
For the DELL SAS PERC RAID this should do the
trick:-
Get the following driver http://ftp.us.dell.com/SAS-RAID/R120960.EXE
Extract all the files and then copy the complete set
into
PE_Img\i386\system32\Perc51
Update PE_Img\i386\system32\WinPEoem.sif as
follows:-
[OemDriverParams]OemDriverRoot=""OemDriverDirs=Perc51
NOTE Your WinPE disk MUST be made from Windows 2003
SP1 or R2 sources otherwise the above WON'T work!!
Then use OSCDimg.exe to create the CD...
BTW you might also fall foul of getting networking going on this, due
to the NetXtreme II using a Virtual Bus Device (VBD). If you use the -minint
switch on your PE dist then WinPE removes support for VBD devices and you have
to use the Broadcom monolithic driver b06nd51x.sys instead of
b06nd51.sys.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy
HARTONOSent: 09 November 2006 14:47To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Perc 5i and
WinPE
Hi
Neil
We had the same problem
previously while loading drivers for Backupexec system recovery (winpe based)
but we uploaded the drivers found in dell downloads, also do note that the
Broadcom drivers needs to be downloaded as well (not detectable via
PE)
Not sure if thats of
any help..
Thank you and have a
splendid day!
Kind
Regards,
Freddy
Hartono
Group Infrastructure
Services Engineer
International SOS Pte
Ltd
mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65)
6330-9785
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 12:41
AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] [OT] Perc 5i and
WinPE
Has
anyone managed to locate drivers for the perc 5i (used by Dell PE servers) which can be used with
WinPE?
The
build guys here are struggling to get WinPE working with this
controller.
Many thanks, neil
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Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
_vbscript_ is one of the available providers for WSH which is a scripting framework. JScript and _vbscript_ are the two languages support out of the box by WSH but Perl and other scripting languages can plug into the framework. My number one resource for _vbscript_ is the Script Center www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx. Thanks, Andrew Fidel Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/09/2006 09:59 AM Please respond to ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org cc Subject [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
RE: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
Lets swap these round. Windows Scripting Host is an environment in which scripts can run. Windows Scripting host provides services that scripts written in a variety of languages can access.Microsoft provides_vbscript_ andJScript. I seem to recall seeing that REXX was available for download. _vbscript_ is a language that can run in in a variety of environments including IE client side, IE Server side as well as WSH. Note there is also WMI (Windows Management Interface) which allows you to control management stuff from WSH scripts. With XP/2003 and laterthere also many non-script command line tools which can be used in traditional batch files, e.g. NETSH , NETDOM, DSQUERY/DSMOVE/... etc. If you are going to use WSH to do administrative tasks and you like a tutorial approach then I really like Alain lissoir's books which you can buy, or you can download the exciting bits from:- http://users.skynet.be/alain.lissoir/default.html Hope this is not too much information overload, Dave Wade From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu PackettSent: 09 November 2006 15:00To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. As a public body, the Council may be required to disclose this email, or any response to it, under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, unless the information in it is covered by one of the exemptions in the Act. If you receive this email in error please notify Stockport e-Services via [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then permanently remove it from your system. Thank you. http://www.stockport.gov.uk **
Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange/Outlook Address Attributes
Agreed that's the best way, but if you just want a list: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/e2k7help/3c97d99c-a777-4481-9608-38d47d7f7192.mspx?mfr=true On 11/9/06, Jerry Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One approach is to create a dummy User and then view the attributes with ADSIEdit, or a browser like Softerra www.softerra.com Jerry Jerry Welch CPS Systems US/Canada: 888-666-0277 International: +1 703 827 0919 (-5 GMT) IP Phone (Skype): Jerry_Welch ( www.skype.net ) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Haritwal, Dhiraj Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:22 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange/Outlook Address Attributes Hi, If anyone have that list, kindly forward to me also. I had search that when I was trying to export the members of an Exchange group through ldifde or csvde. Thanks Regards, Dhiraj Haritwal System Administrator Sony India Pvt. Ltd. A-31, Mohan Co-operative Industrial Estate, Mathura Road , New Delhi - 110 044 Tel. No. : 011-66006276 Fax No.: 011-26959141, 26959143 Cell No. : 9873585408 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:41 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange/Outlook Address Attributes I do have to ask, since the field of country is already included, why you would want to do that. Why? As for the attributes, search Microsoft's technet site for that. There is a complete list of attributes added/modified by Exchange on their site. If you have a hard time finding it, please post back. Al On 11/7/06, Frank Abagnale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to modify some of the fields which Outlook currently uses. I.e If I look at the properties of a user object via Outlook, I would like to change the Department field to displayCountry Unit. Any Ideas how to do this? Does anyone have a spreadsheet of Exchange Attributes and how they map with AD attributes? thanks frank Windows 2003, Exchange 2003, Single Domain. Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. This email is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or telephone and destroy the original message. - This mail is sent via Sony Asia Pacific Mail Gateway.
RE: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
WSH hosts _vbscript_s, JScripts, other scripting languages. You can do some other stuff with it to package scripts and what have you, but, by and large you just want to pickup _vbscript_. The 2nd Edition of the Active Directory Cookbook has a ton of examples that you can likely benefit from as well. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Packett Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
RE: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
Windows 2000 Scripting Guide is also excellent. Thanks, Anthony Scott Microsoft Consultant Mobile 616-481-9722 | Desk 616-464-6369 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Packett Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
[ActiveDir]event log monitoring.
Hi, I want to implement a system that will send me an email whenever there is an error in any of the event logs in my servers. I could do this with an script or similar, butI don't have the time to do it that way and many other reasons. I was wondering if any of you has used GFI EventsManager, my main concern is to know if monitoring the events will put to much work on the servers that I am monitoring, I don't want to crash my server because I am monitoring it. Any suggestion? Thanks Rezuma
RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring.
Mom (Microsoft Operations Manager)is pretty good at this From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:25 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Hi, I want to implement a system that will send me an email whenever there is an error in any of the event logs in my servers. I could do this with an script or similar, butI don't have the time to do it that way and many other reasons. I was wondering if any of you has used GFI EventsManager, my main concern is to know if monitoring the events will put to much work on the servers that I am monitoring, I don't want to crash my server because I am monitoring it. Any suggestion? Thanks Rezuma
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, Im certified in their products. But that doesnt make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring.
If you need to save money (i.e. don't want to pay for MOM, HPOV, AppIQ, etc) - you can use MonitorMagic, http://www.tools4ever.com/products/monitormagic/. It has a tiny agent that sits on a server...we had it loaded on our Domain Controllers for years - it was granular enough to email SAs whenever a computer was added to the domain, for example. Never had any problems with it, though we don't run it any more... We're going to be evaluating GFI EventManager soonanyone else running that application in their environment? --James From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:25 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Hi, I want to implement a system that will send me an email whenever there is an error in any of the event logs in my servers. I could do this with an script or similar, but I don't have the time to do it that way and many other reasons. I was wondering if any of you has used GFI EventsManager, my main concern is to know if monitoring the events will put to much work on the servers that I am monitoring, I don't want to crash my server because I am monitoring it. Any suggestion? Thanks Rezuma List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring.
We are just now in process of configuring a product called WhatsUp. So far, it looks good. Previously, we used a home-grown program which worked most of the time! --Larry WahlersConcordia TechnologiesThe Lutheran Church - Missouri Synodmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]direct office line: (314) 996-1876 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon LinanSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:25 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Hi, I want to implement a system that will send me an email whenever there is an error in any of the event logs in my servers. I could do this with an script or similar, butI don't have the time to do it that way and many other reasons. I was wondering if any of you has used GFI EventsManager, my main concern is to know if monitoring the events will put to much work on the servers that I am monitoring, I don't want to crash my server because I am monitoring it. Any suggestion? Thanks Rezuma
RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring.
MOM is cool...and expensive, anyway, do you know if this kind of monitoring software will kill the machine they are monitoring? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John StrongoskySent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:30 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Mom (Microsoft Operations Manager)is pretty good at this From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon LinanSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:25 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Hi, I want to implement a system that will send me an email whenever there is an error in any of the event logs in my servers. I could do this with an script or similar, butI don't have the time to do it that way and many other reasons. I was wondering if any of you has used GFI EventsManager, my main concern is to know if monitoring the events will put to much work on the servers that I am monitoring, I don't want to crash my server because I am monitoring it. Any suggestion? Thanks Rezuma
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I believe we all know that your statement is correct like any other big company they are out to make $, what I inferred from what she was implying (did I get that right?J) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not perfect (anyone want to cast the first stone?)a grey-toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not appreciatedespecially when this mailing list is used to help others. Im sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal opinions to. --vC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, Im certified in their products. But that doesnt make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts receivable and then go read the Risk analysis section of that annual report. It's an interesting read. I honestly get more tired of the oh but they have billions in the bank comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) Laura A. Robinson wrote: Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jitendra Kalyankar *Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, *Stu Packett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
If you want to learn WSH scripting end to end, the resources provided are all excellent. Lots of info out there, not necessarily any of it is comprehensive as someone always leaves something out but good nonetheless. If you want to learn based on doing things and expand out from there look at the "Cookbooks" that have been published by O'Reilly. For AD stuff, you want the Active Directory Cookbook 2E. For Exchange you want the Exchange Cookbook (though there is some of the common AD related tasks in the AD Cookbook). For general Server type items check out the Windows Server Cookbook. If you want Windows Server security related items you want the Windows Server 2003 Security Cookbook. The nice thing about these books is that they are task oriented which tend to fit people's jobs better and are usually, IMO, easier for people to learn from because they are doing something they care about, not outputting "how now brown cow" or "hello world". Once you start seeing how things are done, it can help understand the more abstract teachings in the "all about _vbscript_ing" type sources. There are also lots of scripts available in the Technet Script Center but the organization of that whole thing last time I checked about drove me insane. I knew what I wanted and half the time couldn't find it... As Darren mentioned, you may want to consider looking at PowerShell. It is the new and improved Windows Scripting environment, for that there is a book called Monad (also by O'Reilly) that isn't too bad and does a nice walkthrough to build you up though like any book that is trying to teach scripting or programming may be considered a little dry. As others mentioned, WSH is sort of a frameworkthat provides common interfaces, etc and allows multiple script engines to be used such as perlscript, _vbscript_, REXX, jscript, Python, etc. You can also use standalone perl which if you intend to do anything cross/platform you may want to consider plus IMO, it blows _vbscript_ out of the water. Especially if you need to call out to command line tools or parse any kind of string stuff. I have written a considerable amount of _vbscript_, primarily for ASP web sites and small utility scripts and I can't say that I ever liked it, it is silly that it misses basic things like sort, etc. I much preferred my work with REXX and later my work with perl which I still primarily use now. My preferences when putting something together is perl and if I can't do something in perl then c/c++. If I can't use perl then I will use _vbscript_ or jscript. joe -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu PackettSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:00 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
(okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say Accounts payables rather than Accounts receivable) Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts receivable and then go read the Risk analysis section of that annual report. It's an interesting read. I honestly get more tired of the oh but they have billions in the bank comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) Laura A. Robinson wrote: Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jitendra Kalyankar *Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, *Stu Packett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought Id comment on one thing, in the name of full disclosure. My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I dont get compensated on any level for this. Heck, I dont even work on AD anymore, so this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that MS compensates me for. So, is MS out to make $? Sure. Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this list? I dont think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting here as I type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple of them dont work on AD anymore either. Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. Its also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I dont get paid for any of this. ~Eric Borg #145719302 Insert conspiracy theory here about how this whole mail is a lie and the man actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by Eric Fleischman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinnie Cardona Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I believe we all know that your statement is correct like any other big company they are out to make $, what I inferred from what she was implying (did I get that right?J) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not perfect (anyone want to cast the first stone?)a grey-toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not appreciatedespecially when this mailing list is used to help others. Im sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal opinions to. --vC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, Im certified in their products. But that doesnt make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring.
I've looked at this a LOT over the years, It would be helpful to know more specifically what your needs are and what scale you are talking about as there are literally dozens of choices now. GFI has a good reputation and had a nice price point for a smaller environment last time I looked. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:25 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Hi, I want to implement a system that will send me an email whenever there is an error in any of the event logs in my servers. I could do this with an script or similar, but I don't have the time to do it that way and many other reasons. I was wondering if any of you has used GFI EventsManager, my main concern is to know if monitoring the events will put to much work on the servers that I am monitoring, I don't want to crash my server because I am monitoring it. Any suggestion? Thanks Rezuma List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I never use that moniker but how about a positive spin...people use it because the co-founders are always on the short list of top U.S. philanthropists ? :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnancho r/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Title: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Hey Susan, not quite sure what report you were looking at, but their FY06 10-K shows a net income of $12.6B with EPS of $1.21 and cash dividends of $0.35/common share ... it also shows a positive cash flow of $6.7B ... I'm no CPA, but I'm pretty sure that means they won't be filing for bankruptcy protection anytime soon. :) And speaking of AP/AR, as of that filing, they had $2.9B outstanding in AP and $2.0B in AR for a net difference of $900M ... once again, I would hardly say it's time to raise the red flag... :) From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thu 11/9/2006 3:10 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ (okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say "Accounts payables"rather than "Accounts receivable")Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts receivable and then go read the "Risk" analysis section of that annual report. It's an interesting read. I honestly get more tired of the "oh but they have billions in the bank" comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) Laura A. Robinson wrote: Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Jitendra Kalyankar *Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, *Stu Packett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.--Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days?http://www.threatcode.comIf you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down...http://blogs.technet.com/sbsList info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspxList FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspxList archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Wow, the man is busier than I thought. Who would know he would have time to make trillions on software, crush all competition, plot the destruction of Europe (stupid anti-trust), and still answer email. There must be more than one the man. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fleischman Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought Id comment on one thing, in the name of full disclosure. My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I dont get compensated on any level for this. Heck, I dont even work on AD anymore, so this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that MS compensates me for. So, is MS out to make $? Sure. Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this list? I dont think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting here as I type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple of them dont work on AD anymore either. Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. Its also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I dont get paid for any of this. ~Eric Borg #145719302 Insert conspiracy theory here about how this whole mail is a lie and the man actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by Eric Fleischman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinnie Cardona Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I believe we all know that your statement is correct like any other big company they are out to make $, what I inferred from what she was implying (did I get that right?J) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not perfect (anyone want to cast the first stone?)a grey-toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not appreciatedespecially when this mailing list is used to help others. Im sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal opinions to. --vC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, Im certified in their products. But that doesnt make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Keep reading down to the risk factors.. :-) Merry, Joel (US - Philadelphia) wrote: Hey Susan, not quite sure what report you were looking at, but their FY06 10-K shows a net income of $12.6B with EPS of $1.21 and cash dividends of $0.35/common share ... it also shows a positive cash flow of $6.7B ... I'm no CPA, but I'm pretty sure that means they won't be filing for bankruptcy protection anytime soon. :) And speaking of AP/AR, as of that filing, they had $2.9B outstanding in AP and $2.0B in AR for a net difference of $900M ... once again, I would hardly say it's time to raise the red flag... :) *From:* Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thu 11/9/2006 3:10 PM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ (okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say Accounts payables rather than Accounts receivable) Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts receivable and then go read the Risk analysis section of that annual report. It's an interesting read. I honestly get more tired of the oh but they have billions in the bank comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) Laura A. Robinson wrote: Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jitendra Kalyankar *Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, *Stu Packett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
You forgot. He has time to consider the phrase Save the Cheerleader, Save the World!. But that is another verse I bettya Felis demulcta mitis ... Alan G. Monaghan [ MCSE+I - Win4.0/ MCSE - Win2k/ BJCP # C0389(Recognized) Ò¿Ó¬ ] Systems Administrator Gardner Publications, Inc. *Phone .. 1-513-527-8867 *Fax 1-513-527-8801 *Cell ... 1-513-378-0919 *E-mail . [EMAIL PROTECTED] *URL http://Bullwinkle.GardnerWeb.Com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:44 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Wow, the man is busier than I thought. Who would know he would have time to make trillions on software, crush all competition, plot the destruction of Europe (stupid anti-trust), and still answer email. There must be more than one the man. :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fleischman Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought I'd comment on one thing, in the name of full disclosure My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I don't get compensated on any level for this. Heck, I don't even work on AD anymore, so this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that MS compensates me for. So, is MS out to make $? Sure. Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this list? I don't think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting here as I type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple of them don't work on AD anymore either. Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. It's also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I don't get paid for any of this. ~Eric Borg #145719302 Insert conspiracy theory here about how this whole mail is a lie and the man actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by Eric Fleischman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinnie Cardona Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I believe we all know that your statement is correct like any other big company they are out to make $, what I inferred from what she was implying (did I get that right?:-)) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not perfect (...anyone want to cast the first stone?)...a grey- toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not appreciated...especially when this mailing list is used to help others. I'm sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal opinions to. --vC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I'm certified in their products. But that doesn't make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en- us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
and like any other big company they are out to make $. Every for-profit company is out there to make money, not just big ones. Every one of us who is working for a for-profit company is working for a company whos primary reason for existence is to make money. And every one of us who is trading our hours for dollars is doing it for the money regardless of whether you love it anyway or not. (if this was a yacht sailing list or a mountaineering list that might not be the case, but being an AD list, Id pretty confident my statement is true J). Just because Microsoft has made a LOT of money doesnt make them evil, it makes them successful something we all strive to be. Theyve also made a significant positive impact on the world, and provide a livelihood for probably half if not more of the members of this list. I think M$ stems from an anti-capitalist, anti-establishment mentality, which is nice for idealists with trust funds but not so nice for people living in such environments (ask someone who lived in an Eastern Block country in the soviet era who wasnt a big party member). Good point to bring up, Laura, I was thinking the same thing when I saw it initially --- Rich Milburn MCSE, Microsoft MVP - Directory Services Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development Applebee's International, Inc. 4551 W. 107th St Overland Park, KS 66207 913-967-2819 -- I love the smell of red herrings in the morning - anonymous From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:41 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, Im certified in their products. But that doesnt make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. ---APPLEBEE'S INTERNATIONAL, INC. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE--- PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message or any attachments. This information is strictly confidential and may be subject to attorney-client privilege. This message is intended only for the use of the named addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this in error, you should kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail and immediately destroy this message. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. Applebee's International, Inc. reserves the right to monitor and review the content of all messages sent to and from this e-mail address. Messages sent to or from this e-mail address may be stored on the Applebee's International, Inc. e-mail system.
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I didn't honestly see anything in the risk factors of the 10Q that any other software business doesn't declare. I read it as basically saying that Microsoft has competition from various sources that could threaten its business model. That's pretty normal. I think its fair to say, based on the big dividend disbursement they did, I want to say last year, that they have plenty of spare cash. I can see it as being a big dilemma, actually. Typically software companies use their cash, among other things, to do acquisitions. But MS' precarious legal position around the world, I can imagine, makes it really hard to do acquisitions that won't receive endless scrutiny. Not that I'm feeling that sorry for them, but, from the perspective of trying to run and grow the business, I imagine that would frustrate more than one person in Redmond. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:19 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Keep reading down to the risk factors.. :-) Merry, Joel (US - Philadelphia) wrote: Hey Susan, not quite sure what report you were looking at, but their FY06 10-K shows a net income of $12.6B with EPS of $1.21 and cash dividends of $0.35/common share ... it also shows a positive cash flow of $6.7B ... I'm no CPA, but I'm pretty sure that means they won't be filing for bankruptcy protection anytime soon. :) And speaking of AP/AR, as of that filing, they had $2.9B outstanding in AP and $2.0B in AR for a net difference of $900M ... once again, I would hardly say it's time to raise the red flag... :) -- -- *From:* Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thu 11/9/2006 3:10 PM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ (okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say Accounts payables rather than Accounts receivable) Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts receivable and then go read the Risk analysis section of that annual report. It's an interesting read. I honestly get more tired of the oh but they have billions in the bank comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) Laura A. Robinson wrote: Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura -- -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jitendra Kalyankar *Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanc hor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, *Stu Packett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is
RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring.
Theres more options with MOM to handle small business which should be something to consider as well :m:dsm:cci:mvp| marcusoh.blogspot.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:54 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. MOM is cool...and expensive, anyway, do you know if this kind of monitoring software will kill the machine they are monitoring? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:30 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Mom (Microsoft Operations Manager)is pretty good at this From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:25 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Hi, I want to implement a system that will send me an email whenever there is an error in any of the event logs in my servers. I could do this with an script or similar, butI don't have the time to do it that way and many other reasons. I was wondering if any of you has used GFI EventsManager, my main concern is to know if monitoring the events will put to much work on the servers that I am monitoring, I don't want to crash my server because I am monitoring it. Any suggestion? Thanks Rezuma
RE: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
I similarly got to a point where I realized I couldnt practically avoid scripting any longer. I looked at a few books, including Robbies AD Cookbook. Eventually I have become a pretty fair scripter in _vbscript_ and can work my way around jscript with only minimal pain. Here are a couple of things I learned, though. 1) _vbscript_ is nice because from Win2K and up, its supported out of the box in WSH. No interpreter to load, and no compiling necessary. It does have its limitations, to be sure, but it is fairly easy to learn. An advantage over compiling a perl script is if you are out in the field with a script you need, and it doesnt work on the box you need it for, you can open it up in notepad and fix it. This happens (for me anyway) more than you might imagine. 2) I cant remember all the stuff like Set oFSO = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject) and so on, or the set of lines to write to text files, etc. So like any good web programmer, I have accumulated a folder of example scripts that do certain things. i.e. parse a csv file, write a log file, find various AD attributes, manipulate msi databases, etc. If I dont have a set of code to do something, I can easily find it out there on the web and adapt it. Almost everything Ive written started out as something else including plagiarizing my own scripts. 3) The Windows Platform Software Development Kit is invaluable. There is a scripting reference to all the methods, functions, etc and when I am charting new territory, I have it open all the time. All the ADSI methods, objects, functions, and properties are in there too. The SDK is freely downloadable from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/XPSP2FULLInstall.htm 4) The Microsoft Scripting Guys have lots of cool stuff on their site. The WMI Scriptomatic 2 is awesome for showing how to do things. Even if you are not doing WMI but rather AD, it shows you how to create and use objects and query properties. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx 5) If you dont have a good tool for scripting, get one. There are several, and I think that the free Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Express will do _vbscript_. I know it does hta files. Autocomplete is another invaluable tool once you learn to use it, for all but the most prolific scripters (like joe I imagine J) 6) Consider looking at HTA (HTML Application) files. They are HTML, so familiar if you know any web coding, but they dont have the limitations IE puts on htm files i.e. you can access the file system etc. They enable you to harness a web interface to use in your scripts. A lot of recent Microsoft stuff is on HTA now. --- Rich Milburn MCSE, Microsoft MVP - Directory Services Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development Applebee's International, Inc. 4551 W. 107th St Overland Park, KS 66207 913-967-2819 -- I love the smell of red herrings in the morning - anonymous From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Packett Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. ---APPLEBEE'S INTERNATIONAL, INC. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE--- PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message or any attachments. This information is strictly confidential and may be subject to attorney-client privilege. This message is intended only for the use of the named addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this in error, you should kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail and immediately destroy this message. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. Applebee's International, Inc. reserves the right to monitor and review the content of all messages sent to and from this e-mail address. Messages sent to or from this e-mail address may be stored on the Applebee's International, Inc. e-mail system.
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Nice... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Monaghan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:25 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ You forgot. He has time to consider the phrase Save the Cheerleader, Save the World!. But that is another verse I bettya Felis demulcta mitis ... Alan G. Monaghan [ MCSE+I - Win4.0/ MCSE - Win2k/ BJCP # C0389(Recognized) Ò¿Ó¬ ] Systems Administrator Gardner Publications, Inc. *Phone .. 1-513-527-8867 *Fax 1-513-527-8801 *Cell ... 1-513-378-0919 *E-mail . [EMAIL PROTECTED] *URL http://Bullwinkle.GardnerWeb.Com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:44 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Wow, the man is busier than I thought. Who would know he would have time to make trillions on software, crush all competition, plot the destruction of Europe (stupid anti-trust), and still answer email. There must be more than one the man. :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fleischman Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought I'd comment on one thing, in the name of full disclosure My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I don't get compensated on any level for this. Heck, I don't even work on AD anymore, so this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that MS compensates me for. So, is MS out to make $? Sure. Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this list? I don't think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting here as I type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple of them don't work on AD anymore either. Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. It's also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I don't get paid for any of this. ~Eric Borg #145719302 Insert conspiracy theory here about how this whole mail is a lie and the man actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by Eric Fleischman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinnie Cardona Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I believe we all know that your statement is correct like any other big company they are out to make $, what I inferred from what she was implying (did I get that right?:-)) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not perfect (...anyone want to cast the first stone?)...a grey- toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not appreciated...especially when this mailing list is used to help others. I'm sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal opinions to. --vC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I'm certified in their products. But that doesn't make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I use it fairly commonly. Only several of the lists I frequent, if you use MS, then the Morgan-Stanley people get all up in arms. And typing MSFT is just too long. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Free, Bob Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:25 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I never use that moniker but how about a positive spin...people use it because the co-founders are always on the short list of top U.S. philanthropists ? :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnancho r/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
;o) Always the shit kicker Laura. :) Me... M$ doesn't bother me and I do have a relatively positive view on MSFT (Even Exchange on days that I don't have todeal with it). Not because they are involved with my paycheck in some fashion, if I weren't working on their stuff I would be working on someone else's stuff and still making money. Maybe more, maybe less, can't really tell. If I had to guess, I would probably be paid more and I would be a high end UNIX or application guy and not having to listen to admins tell me how great they are or how amazing they were in their last job while screwing things up in their current job. Then again, I could be pearl diving too, I am pretty good at it, I made a "living" doing it for years and always have it to fall back on. Hopefully the next time I do that though it will be in an eatery that I own. :o) What I *do think* about this though is that it makes the person who uses it look kind of bad or possibly less intelligent. I try not to look at them bad but I seem to inadvertently toss them into a category I reserve for script kiddies and two bit hackers and OS Bigots (of any religion) and others who consider themselves "L33T" or otherwise too cool for school. Folks that use alternate spelling choices for words are doing their darndest to get me to ignore them because it is a PITA to read something that has all the purposeful misspellings in it. There is too much well written stuff out there to waste your time trying to decode something written so poorly. I think some people do it simply because MSFT is on top and a lot of less skilled and/or less capable people like to make themselves look better or important by trying to knock down or otherwise ridicule thosewho have a higher perceived standing than themselves. I think overall Microsoft has done more for commoditizing the PC industry and standardizing things in it than any other company or group in the world. Without them, I think we would still be in a world of very costly business machines and almost nothing reasonable available for the home. While they may not do things the best, they actually get things out there. Oh yeah, I think as a whole, most MSFT employees are severely underpaid for what they do for Microsoft and the community as a whole. To even it out though, like in any company, there are people in (or were in) MSFT that are/were lucky to even have a job. While I tend to hear a lot of nasty things about MSFT as a company, hearing nasty things about individual employees is not so common. I don't think the company is evil. Much of the time I think that them trying to be purposely evil would be a stretch and tough for their overall method of management and internal communication and something they would have to spend considerable time trying to work at sort of like security... ;o) I think of MSFT mostly as an oversized puppy that tends to accidently step on toes and accidently bite too hard when playing. So anyway, not that I am looking for an apology or think that the guy owes anyone one. I would just give a recommendation to avoidlanguage/spelling like thateven if others are doing it as it is certain to get at least some people to start ignoring them at a minimum. joe -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:14 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra KalyankarSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> -- Sincerely,J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I would think that M$ would really fit Morgan Stanley, the financial services company, very well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:17 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I use it fairly commonly. Only several of the lists I frequent, if you use MS, then the Morgan-Stanley people get all up in arms. And typing MSFT is just too long. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Free, Bob Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:25 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I never use that moniker but how about a positive spin...people use it because the co-founders are always on the short list of top U.S. philanthropists ? :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnancho r/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR--
I dont have a reverse lookup set up at my ISP. This is the possible reason I think. What should I do in this case as this will take some time to get it setup. Can I use any other smtp server and how? DNS Stuff doesnt show my in BL. I am able to telnet the other server but not able to do helo it gives unrecognized command reply (500 #5.5.1 command not recognized). Thanks!!! Ravi Dogra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:50 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- did you guys ever resolved this problem? www.dnsstuff.com, there you can check if your IP is in a DNS BL or similar, he queries a bunch of list. Where you able to send email telneting into the other server? telnet servername 25 helo yourdomain? mail from:youremailaddress rcpt to:valid email address in that domain data test . From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- You should be able to see my email from the response. Sincerely, _ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ __ ___// _ // _ ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_ (_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.akomolafe.com- we know IT -5.75, -3.23 Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: Technical Support Sent: Tue 11/7/2006 11:35 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- Please let me know how I can contact you Deji From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:19 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- 4.4.7 is usually the other server's problem. If you want, I can privately help you verify this, if you send me the domain/ip of the other server in a private (off-list) message. Sincerely, _ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ __ ___// _ // _ ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_ (_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.akomolafe.com- we know IT -5.75, -3.23 Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: Technical Support Sent: Mon 11/6/2006 8:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- Hi, I am sending mail @XYZ.COM and here is the error I am getting. When id to Email ID Verification and MX Record lookup it works fine for xyz.com. Also I am not facing this problem with any other mail id. I am able to send mails to other clients/vendors. Here is the NDR I am getting. --- Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Updated: Undelivered Sent: 11/6/2006 6:58 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/6/2006 9:08 PM Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified. Please retry or contact your administrator. MyFrontEnd.Domain.local #4.4.7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/6/2006 9:08 PM Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified. Please retry or contact your administrator. MyFrontEnd.Domain.local #4.4.7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/6/2006 9:08 PM Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified. Please retry or contact your administrator. MyFrontEnd.Domain.local #4.4.7 --- Please suggest what the possible reason is for the same. Do I need to change something from my end (a new connector) or get something changed at remote (Client) end? Thanks!!! Ravi Dogra
RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR--
Without an reverse PTR to your MX your likely to have this problem with a number of folks. You can try sending me a private message as well. My server will not except traffic without a reverse record. Though it should be child's play for the ISP to configure - usually just one entry, maybe two depending on the version of UNIX BIND they are running. If you use dnsstuff.com's top middle colum spam database lookup, it will indicate what your PTR is or isn't. The CBLs and DBNS may or may not have you listed depending on the amount of email you have sent or if anyone has complained so that too makes sense. I just ran into this problem with someone in the same building. Really, this is pretty simple to fix once everything is in place. Good luck and let know how things turn out. Brent Eads Employee Technology Solutions, Inc. Office: (312) 762-9224 Fax: (312) 762-9275 The contents contain privileged and/or confidential information intended for the named recipient of this email. ETSI (Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.) does not warrant that the contents of any electronically transmitted information will remain confidential. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any use, reproduction, disclosure or distribution of the information contained in the email in error, please reply to us immediately and delete the document. Viruses, Malware, Phishing and other known and unknown electronic threats: It is the recipient/client's duties to perform virus scans and otherwise test the information provided before loading onto any computer system. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. Liability will be limited to resupplying the material. Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/09/2006 04:47 PM Please respond to ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org cc Subject RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- I don’t have a reverse lookup set up at my ISP. This is the possible reason I think. What should I do in this case as this will take some time to get it setup. Can I use any other smtp server and how? DNS Stuff doesn’t show my in BL. I am able to telnet the other server but not able to do helo it gives unrecognized command reply (500 #5.5.1 command not recognized). Thanks!!! Ravi Dogra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:50 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- did you guys ever resolved this problem? www.dnsstuff.com, there you can check if your IP is in a DNS BL or similar, he queries a bunch of list. Where you able to send email telneting into the other server? telnet servername 25 helo yourdomain? mail from:youremailaddress rcpt to:valid email address in that domain data test . From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- You should be able to see my email from the response. Sincerely, _ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ __ ___// _ // _ ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_ (_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.akomolafe.com - we know IT -5.75, -3.23 Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: Technical Support Sent: Tue 11/7/2006 11:35 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- Please let me know how I can contact you Deji From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:19 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- 4.4.7 is usually the other server's problem. If you want, I can privately help you verify this, if you send me the domain/ip of the other server in a private (off-list) message. Sincerely, _ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ __ ___// _ // _ ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_ (_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.akomolafe.com - we know IT -5.75, -3.23 Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: Technical Support Sent: Mon 11/6/2006 8:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange --NDR-- Hi, I am sending mail @XYZ.COM and here is the error I am getting. When id to Email ID Verification and MX Record lookup it works fine
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Title: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I did -- how does that differ from any sort of earth-shattering, company-crushing problem they, and every other corporation, deal with on a yearly basis? :) If you give too much credence to that sort of thing, Chicken Little, you may as well just pack it in and move to the mountains ... to summarize: same @#$%, different year. :) From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thu 11/9/2006 4:18 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Keep reading down to the risk factors.. :-)Merry, Joel (US - Philadelphia) wrote: Hey Susan, not quite sure what report you were looking at, but their FY06 10-K shows a net income of $12.6B with EPS of $1.21 and cash dividends of $0.35/common share ... it also shows a positive cash flow of $6.7B ... I'm no CPA, but I'm pretty sure that means they won't be filing for bankruptcy protection anytime soon. :) And speaking of AP/AR, as of that filing, they had $2.9B outstanding in AP and $2.0B in AR for a net difference of $900M ... once again, I would hardly say it's time to raise the red flag... :) *From:* Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *Sent:* Thu 11/9/2006 3:10 PM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ (okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say "Accounts payables" rather than "Accounts receivable") Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts receivable and then go read the "Risk" analysis section of that annual report. It's an interesting read. I honestly get more tired of the "oh but they have billions in the bank" comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) Laura A. Robinson wrote: Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Jitendra Kalyankar *Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, *Stu Packett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.--Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days?http://www.threatcode.comIf you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down...http://blogs.technet.com/sbsList info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspxList FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspxList archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the
Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I would argue that there are comparatively few other companies around that have to deal with the Department of Justice and EU quite as much or to quite the same extent on a annual basis. Merry, Joel (US - Philadelphia) wrote: I did -- how does that differ from any sort of earth-shattering, company-crushing problem they, and every other corporation, deal with on a yearly basis? :) If you give too much credence to that sort of thing, Chicken Little, you may as well just pack it in and move to the mountains ... to summarize: same @#$%, different year. :) *From:* Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thu 11/9/2006 4:18 PM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Keep reading down to the risk factors.. :-) Merry, Joel (US - Philadelphia) wrote: Hey Susan, not quite sure what report you were looking at, but their FY06 10-K shows a net income of $12.6B with EPS of $1.21 and cash dividends of $0.35/common share ... it also shows a positive cash flow of $6.7B ... I'm no CPA, but I'm pretty sure that means they won't be filing for bankruptcy protection anytime soon. :) And speaking of AP/AR, as of that filing, they had $2.9B outstanding in AP and $2.0B in AR for a net difference of $900M ... once again, I would hardly say it's time to raise the red flag... :) *From:* Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thu 11/9/2006 3:10 PM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ (okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say Accounts payables rather than Accounts receivable) Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts receivable and then go read the Risk analysis section of that annual report. It's an interesting read. I honestly get more tired of the oh but they have billions in the bank comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) Laura A. Robinson wrote: Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jitendra Kalyankar *Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, *Stu Packett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis
Re: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring.
Actually the one you want to watch is SCE (System Center Essentials) built for SMBs in mind... (current beta) In the SBS space I don't see a lot of MOM use it just never caught on. "M" space yeah, but not "S" space. Level Platforms, HoundDog, we use them down here... but given that SBS spits out a built in daily monitoring email, MOM just didn't catch on... I think because the MOM Workgroup (which comes in Action pack) only supports 10 servers? (a Kentucky based SBS firm is having a user group presentation that will be webcast on the monitoring software Level Platforms for those interested - if you are - ping me and I'll give you a sign up link - it's a free webcast) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theres more options with MOM to handle small business which should be something to consider as well :m:dsm:cci:mvp| marcusoh.blogspot.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:54 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. MOM is cool...and expensive, anyway, do you know if this kind of monitoring software will kill the machine they are monitoring? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Strongosky Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:30 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Mom (Microsoft Operations Manager)is pretty good at this From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:25 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Hi, I want to implement a system that will send me an email whenever there is an error in any of the event logs in my servers. I could do this with an script or similar, butI don't have the time to do it that way and many other reasons. I was wondering if any of you has used GFI EventsManager, my main concern is to know if monitoring the events will put to much work on the servers that I am monitoring, I don't want to crash my server because I am monitoring it. Any suggestion? Thanks Rezuma -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
[ActiveDir] mailbox enumeration(OT)
Can anyone help me out with a script that will just query every exchange server and SG in the org and dump out the # of mailboxes on each store to a txt file? The output is simple, just EX severname-SGname-store-#of mailboxes. I can get the size of a mailbox or store but I can't seem to just query for # of mailboxes on a store and dump that to a text file.any example or suggestione would be appreciated. Thanks List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
You're not a fake employee, I've seen you. :-) BrettSh, too. It's that Stuart Kwan guy whose existence I'm doubting. (Come on, was that enough to inspire the rarity that is a Stuart Kwan ActiveDir post? Please? PLEASE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? ;-)) On 11/9/06, Eric Fleischman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought I'd comment on one thing, in the name of full disclosure…. My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I don't get compensated on any level for this. Heck, I don't even work on AD anymore, so this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that MS compensates me for. So, is MS out to make $? Sure. Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this list? I don't think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting here as I type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple of them don't work on AD anymore either. Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. It's also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I don't get paid for any of this. ~Eric Borg #145719302 Insert conspiracy theory here about how this whole mail is a lie and the man actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by Eric Fleischman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinnie Cardona Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I believe we all know that your statement is correct like any other big company they are out to make $, what I inferred from what she was implying (did I get that right?J) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not perfect (…anyone want to cast the first stone?)…a grey-toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not appreciated…especially when this mailing list is used to help others. I'm sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal opinions to. --vC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I'm certified in their products. But that doesn't make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as M$ on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. -- --- Laura E. Hunter Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Networking Author: _Active Directory Consultant's Field Guide_ (http://tinyurl.com/7f8ll) Author: _Active Directory Cookbook, Second Edition_ (http://tinyurl.com/z7svl) List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] mailbox enumeration(OT)
I can think of a couple ways- You can modify the script here to just count: http://briandesmond.com/blog/archive/2006/09/04/Script-to-Dump-Exchange- Mailbox-Info-to-Spreadsheet-_2800_CSV_2900_.aspx You can also query the config partition, specifically cn=microsoft exchange,cn=services,dcn=configuration,dc=blah,dc=blech for whatever the cass is for the mailstores, I think msExchPrivateStore or something similar. Then just iterate each of those and search AD for homeMDB=DnOfThat. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:58 PM To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] mailbox enumeration(OT) Can anyone help me out with a script that will just query every exchange server and SG in the org and dump out the # of mailboxes on each store to a txt file? The output is simple, just EX severname-SGname-store-#of mailboxes. I can get the size of a mailbox or store but I can't seem to just query for # of mailboxes on a store and dump that to a text file.any example or suggestione would be appreciated. Thanks List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring.
Take a look at LogCaster from Rippletech. That is what we are using. I don't manageit, but Iheard it works pretty well. Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon LinanSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:25 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir]event log monitoring. Hi, I want to implement a system that will send me an email whenever there is an error in any of the event logs in my servers. I could do this with an script or similar, butI don't have the time to do it that way and many other reasons. I was wondering if any of you has used GFI EventsManager, my main concern is to know if monitoring the events will put to much work on the servers that I am monitoring, I don't want to crash my server because I am monitoring it. Any suggestion? Thanks Rezuma --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.31/522 - Release Date: 11/7/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.31/522 - Release Date: 11/7/2006
Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
Thank you everyone for your response. Every reply was very helpful. This mailing list has a very respectful feel as opposed to other lists I subscribe to.I neglected to mention that I'm also interested in scripting because I've been hearing about Powershell in Exchange 2007. I'm an Exchange admin and I'm here at Exchange Connections in Las Vegas and that is one of the big pluses of Exchange 2007. Thanks again everyone and I feel much better moving forward.
On 11/9/06, Rich Milburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I similarly got to a
point where I realized I couldn't practically avoid scripting any
longer. I looked at a few books, including Robbie's AD
Cookbook. Eventually I have become a pretty fair scripter in _vbscript_ and
can work my way around jscript with only minimal pain. Here are a couple
of things I learned, though.
1)
_vbscript_ is nice because from Win2K and up, it's supported out
of the box in WSH. No interpreter to load, and no compiling
necessary. It does have it's limitations, to be sure, but it is
fairly easy to learn. An advantage over compiling a perl script is if you
are out in the field with a script you need, and it doesn't work on the
box you need it for, you can open it up in notepad and fix it. This
happens (for me anyway) more than you might imagine.
2)
I can't remember all the stuff like Set oFSO = CreateObject("Scripting
.FileSystemObject")
and so on, or the set of lines to write to text files, etc. So like any
good web programmer, I have accumulated a folder of example scripts that do
certain things. i.e. parse a csv file, write a log file, find various AD
attributes, manipulate msi databases, etc. If I don't have a set of
code to do something, I can easily find it out there on the web and adapt it.
Almost everything I've written started out as something else –
including plagiarizing my own scripts.
3)
The Windows Platform Software Development Kit is invaluable.
There is a scripting reference to all the methods, functions, etc and when I am
charting new territory, I have it open all the time. All the ADSI
methods, objects, functions, and properties are in there too. The SDK is
freely downloadable from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/XPSP2FULLInstall.htm
4)
The Microsoft Scripting Guys have lots of cool stuff on their
site. The WMI Scriptomatic 2 is awesome for showing how to do
things. Even if you are not doing WMI but rather AD, it shows you how to
create and use objects and query properties. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
5)
If you don't have a good tool for scripting, get one.
There are several, and I think that the free Microsoft Visual Studio 2005
Express will do _vbscript_. I know it does hta files. Autocomplete is
another invaluable tool once you learn to use it, for all but the most prolific
scripters (like joe I imagine J
)
6)
Consider looking at HTA (HTML Application) files. They are
HTML, so familiar if you know any web coding, but they don't have the
limitations IE puts on htm files – i.e. you can access the file system
etc. They enable you to harness a web interface to use in your
scripts. A lot of recent Microsoft stuff is on HTA now.
---
Rich Milburn
MCSE, Microsoft MVP -
Directory Services
Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development
Applebee's International, Inc.
4551 W. 107th St
Overland Park
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913-967-2819
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of red herrings in the morning" - anonymous
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006
9:00 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Beginner's
Book on Scripting - WSH or _vbscript_?
Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this
mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to
script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what
books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't
really know the difference between WSH and _vbscript_, so if anyone could explain
that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several
books on WSH and _vbscript_, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm
also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in
advance.
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