Re: [Adastra] Emailing: article2355956

[Richard Price]

Dear Henri,
   
  Interesting, thanks.
   
  I have at home an editorial from the Guardian which also criticised the bad 
science from the programme. They wrote that the science was old, has been found 
to be flawed and it was an irresponsible programme. 
   
  Debate is good to encourage but programmes based on science found to be 
flawed is problematic.
   
  Henri, would you like me to post it to your postal address?
   
  All the best,
  Richard.

   
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For those of you that were shocked by last Thursday's 'climate swindle'
documentary please read this article which is the health warning that
should have gone out with it in the first place. Following the
documentary the independent took it upon themselves to look into the
figures that were used in the film and interview the producer. My
favourite quote is: "The original Nasa data was very wiggly-lined and
we wanted the simplest line we could find" 

It is worth having a read as this documentary has had a huge impact.
You may like to forward it onto friends who now think that we have all
woken up from a bad dream and CO2 emissions don't matter anymore!

Here is the article (the original in yesterday's independent also showed
the graphs comparing the shown data with the real data).


http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2355956.
ece

Cheers
Henri
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[Adastra] Survey of Friston Forest

[Richard Price]

There is a survey of Friston Forest meeting 10.45 am in the car park of Friston 
Church and concentrating mainly on spiders although all groups can be surveyed. 
About 6 people should be present. If anyone wants to join us we will be pleased 
to see you there.
   
  Sincerely,
  Richard Price. 
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Re: [Adastra] Survey of Friston Forest

[Richard Price]

Hi Lin,
   
  Saturday.
   
  All the best,
  Richard.
   
  

Linda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi Richard-
What Day?

-Lin

On 4/12/07, Richard Price wrote:
>
> There is a survey of Friston Forest meeting 10.45 am in the car park of
> Friston Church and concentrating mainly on spiders although all groups can
> be surveyed. About 6 people should be present. If anyone wants to join us we
> will be pleased to see you there.
>
> Sincerely,
> Richard Price.
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[Adastra] Friston survey correction

[Richard Price]

Just a small correction, the meeting place is Jevington Church at 10.45 and not 
Friston Church as was stated.
   
  All the best,
  Richard.
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Re: [Adastra] Badger road-kill mystery...?

[Richard Price]

I have heard the same story and think that it is possible that some road kills 
are in fact badger baiters, or others covering their tracks. It would be 
interesting for someone with access to the necessary facilities to carry out a 
study of road kills to determine if the theory is likely to be true or false.
   
  There should be some sort of cordination throughout the various badger groups 
across the country who might know how to obtain finance for such a project.
   
  The Hastings Badger Group got a lot of bad press due to harassing some 
members of a housing estate. This caused one of the committee to try to disolve 
it and write to the charities commission. He was in a terrible anxious state 
and the behaviour within the society meant that I did not renew my 
subscription. I think Hastings might be lacking a decent badger group.
   
  I never record dead badgers, or live badgers, or set locations due to fear 
that the Government will get hold of the data, have a change of policy and 
decide in conjunction with MAFF to eradicate badgers.  I do not support badger 
culls, think it is short sighted and not benefical.
   
  All the best,
  Richard.
   
   
  

Robin Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Road kills do not necessarily show any external signs of injury. It would 
be necessary to do a post mortem examination to look for subcutaneous 
bruising (or gun shot wounds). Not sure how evidence of gassing would show 
up; probably it would depend on the gas used.

Robin
- Original Message - 
From: "dom Green" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:40 PM
Subject: [Adastra] Badger road-kill mystery...?


>I had a very odd conversation this week, during which an acquaintance of
> mine claimed that she had heard that most of the dead badgers seen by the
> side of the road are not road-kill at all: she was adamant that they are 
> in
> fact shot or gassed by nasty farmers who then dump the bodies on verges in
> order to cover their tracks. She cited the fact that most such badgers'
> bodies don't appear to have any injuries, as they would do had they been 
> hit
> by a car.
> Sounds like just another weird urban (rural?) myth to me, so I was 
> wondering
> whether anybody else had heard anything similar?
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Re: [Adastra] Badger road-kill mystery...?

[Richard Price]

I like the woodland trusts take on this
http://www.woodland-trust.org.uk/campaigns/briefingsmore/badgers.htm

The Woodland Trust believes that, regardless of the statistical
validity of the trial, if the Government decides that killing badgers
does reduce bTB in cattle, then large-scale eradication of badgers may
be proposed. However, even if culling is shown to reduce bTB in
cattle, the Trust is concerned that, given the lack of sufficiently
detailed research into the effectiveness of other disease control
methods, the trials will be unable to determine whether badger culling
is the most effective and most cost effective way of controlling the
disease. It is also highly questionable as to whether such a
large-scale eradication programme would be politically and publicly
acceptable or practically possible.

I think that the report at the above URL says it all and even
describes the science behind its stance. What it does not describe is
that the methods used to kill the badgers are incredibly barbaric, I
read somewhere that in a major cull snaring would be the primary
method as it is the only feasible way to kill large numbers.

Richard.


On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:44:39 +0100, you wrote:

>I think Richard is wrong to say that Maff (now DEFRA) aim to eradicate 
>Badgers.  There is no doubt that many are affected with bovine TB and that 
>there is a transfer of the infection between the two species.  The disease 
>in Badgers is chronic and many are likely to die a lingering death.  It 
>would be beneficial to both species if the disease could be eradicated.  It 
>remains to be seen whether a limited cull is the best way to achieve this 
>result.  Personally I can see no other solution.
>
>There has been a large increase in Badger numbers in recent years and there 
>is no reason why they should not recover from a limited cull.  If I thought 
>the aim was to eradicate the species I would certainly join the protests.
>
>Robin
>----- Original Message - 
>From: "Richard Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Adastra discussion group" 
>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [Adastra] Badger road-kill mystery...?
>
>
>>I have heard the same story and think that it is possible that some road 
>>kills are in fact badger baiters, or others covering their tracks. It would 
>>be interesting for someone with access to the necessary facilities to carry 
>>out a study of road kills to determine if the theory is likely to be true 
>>or false.
>>
>>  There should be some sort of cordination throughout the various badger 
>> groups across the country who might know how to obtain finance for such a 
>> project.
>>
>>  The Hastings Badger Group got a lot of bad press due to harassing some 
>> members of a housing estate. This caused one of the committee to try to 
>> disolve it and write to the charities commission. He was in a terrible 
>> anxious state and the behaviour within the society meant that I did not 
>> renew my subscription. I think Hastings might be lacking a decent badger 
>> group.
>>
>>  I never record dead badgers, or live badgers, or set locations due to 
>> fear that the Government will get hold of the data, have a change of 
>> policy and decide in conjunction with MAFF to eradicate badgers.  I do not 
>> support badger culls, think it is short sighted and not benefical.
>>
>>  All the best,
>>  Richard.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Robin Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  Road kills do not necessarily show any external signs of injury. It would
>> be necessary to do a post mortem examination to look for subcutaneous
>> bruising (or gun shot wounds). Not sure how evidence of gassing would show
>> up; probably it would depend on the gas used.
>>
>> Robin
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "dom Green"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:40 PM
>> Subject: [Adastra] Badger road-kill mystery...?
>>
>>
>>>I had a very odd conversation this week, during which an acquaintance of
>>> mine claimed that she had heard that most of the dead badgers seen by the
>>> side of the road are not road-kill at all: she was adamant that they are
>>> in
>>> fact shot or gassed by nasty farmers who then dump the bodies on verges 
>>> in
>>> order to cover their tracks. She cited the fact that most such badgers'
>>> bodies don't appear to have any injuries, as they would do had they been
>>> hit
>>> by a car.
>>> Sounds like just another weird urban (rural?) myth to me, so I was
>>> wondering
>>> whether anybody else had heard anything similar?
>

[Adastra] Darwell Reservoir

[Richard Price]

I took a walk round Darwell on the weekend and found that the
footpaths had been re-routed and bore no relation to the OS map. I
forgot the GPS so did the references for my records by hand. Now, I
either have to revisit the site of my recording with a GPS or figure
out where I was. Is there a way to get the updated footpaths maps from
anywhere?

Cheers,
Richard.

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Re: [Adastra] Darwell Reservoir

[Richard Price]

No, they are footpaths at least marked as such on the OS. If you look
at the map for Darwell the footpath approaches the reservoir and
branches off to the left so that the shore of it is on the right.
During my walk I tried this and found fenced in pigs blocking the path
so I retraced my steps and found that the path then took me so that
the reservoir appeared on the left. This was very confusing.

I think I will have to return to get the refs via GPS.

Richard.




On Wed, 16 May 2007 21:51:27 +0100 (BST), you wrote:

>I assume that these are not public footpaths - as signed and maintained by the 
>County Council? These cannot be re-routed without several tonnes of paperwork 
>and bureaucracy ;-)
>  Sarah
>
>Richard Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I took a walk round Darwell on the weekend and found that the
>footpaths had been re-routed and bore no relation to the OS map. I
>forgot the GPS so did the references for my records by hand. Now, I
>either have to revisit the site of my recording with a GPS or figure
>out where I was. Is there a way to get the updated footpaths maps from
>anywhere?
>
>Cheers,
>Richard.
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Re: [Adastra] Axiophytes

[Richard Price]

Dear Paul,
   
  Please can I have the draft list it would be very useful for my studies. I am 
a member of the SBRS though I havent done much recording yet. 
   
  I would like to meet you one weekend with the vouchers that I have collected 
for confirmation purposes, or send them by post. I am not sure on the usual 
routine to send for botanical stuff. Whether it is best to meet or send 
vouchers. Some of mine are quite large so the postage woudl be for oversize I 
think?
   
  Best regards,
  Richard.
   
  

paul Harmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Dear Patrick,

The SBRS (principally Frances Abraham) have indeed produce a list of
Axiophytes.

If you would like a look at our draft, we would welcome your comments?

Best regards

Paul

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Roper
Sent: 04 June 2007 12:41
To: adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
Subject: [Adastra] Axiophytes

I have heard several people recently talking about the new (I think) concept
of 'axiophytes'.



The most concise definition I have seen is that axiophytes are "Plants
indicative of habitats that need to be conserved."



There is a web page put up by the Botanical Society of the British Isles
devoted to the topic here:



http://www.bsbi.org.uk/html/axiophytes.html



And another useful one here:



http://www.bsbi.org.uk/News103p57.pdf



I wonder if our Sussex botanists are drawing up, or thinking of drawing up,
a list for our area as it seems like a good system of establishing more
finely tuned conservation priorities.



I wonder too if a similar system exists for animals. The last syllable of
'axiophytes' means 'plants' so, if a word does not exist already one would
have to be coined - I rather like 'axiofauns', but I think this would give
serious taxonomists a heart attack.



Whatever, I do think this axiowhatnot could become a very useful
conservation tool.



Patrick Roper



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Re: [Adastra] FW: Calling all Naturalists in the Rother Woods area

[Richard Price]

Dear Henri,
   
  I am interested as I am looking for sites to survey for my MSc dissertation. 
This involves spiders and vacuum and timed hand-searching.
   
  All the best,
  Richard.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }Dear Adastrans, 
   
  Steve Wheatley, the Rother Woods Project Officer  is arranging access to many 
woodlands in the Rother Woods Project area, some of which have not been 
surveyed in many years (if ever!). It would be great if any local naturalists 
wanted to get involved.  http://sxbrc.org.uk/file_download/18/Rother Woods 
Project Summary.pdf (300KB PDF) is a small document about the project.
   
  If you are interested in gaining access to these sites please contact Steve 
(or pass his details to any naturalists not on this group that you may think 
are interested).
   
   
  Steve Wheatley
  Rother Woods Project Officer
  Butterfly Conservation
  ddi: 01580 879958
  mob: 07747 780605
  Please reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  Hosted by:
  High Weald AONB Unit
  Woodland Enterprise Centre
  Hastings Road
  Flimwell
  East Sussex
  TN5 7PR
  web: http://www.butterfly-conservation.org
  The Rother Woods Project is part of Butterfly Conservation's South East 
Woodland Project, and is supported amongst others by The Heritage Lottery Fund, 
The Tubney Charitable Trust, The Forestry Commission.
   

  
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Act. Registered in England, Company No. 698851. Registered Charity No. 207005. 
VAT Registration No. 191 305969. Registered Office: Woods Mill, Henfield, West 
Sussex BN5 9SD. Telephone 01273 492 630
  

[Adastra] Kingfisher at Alexandra Park

[Richard Price]

A friend of mine saw a kingfisher at Alexandra Park yesterday. I
wondered if one has been seen there before?

[Adastra] Drop Disk and vegetation structure.

[Richard Price]

Has anyone got  a drop disk that they could lend out or sell?

Or, does anyone have instructions for creating one?

All the best,
Richard.

[Adastra] 3 Hares

[Richard Price]

Today from the train I had a clear view of three hares. The train had
just passed Appledore station heading to Rye and the site would be
Priory Farm. They were in a field of Rape and in a large circular area
in the middle of it that perhaps they had worn or eaten away.

A very lovely sight. The date is 14 May I wonder if a record could be
raised. The grid ref TQ 960 275 but I am unsure if it is Kent or East
Sussex?

All the best,
Richard

Re: [Adastra] Threat to woodland

[Richard Price]

Thanks for your message very interesting and worrying. Can any of this be
stopped or opposed? There is so much of this sort of thing going on right
now.

I think that the Government are pushing very hard for intensive development.
Everybody is seeing things happening in their region but this is on a
national scale. I spoke to someone from Friends of the Earth who said that
they are opposing Government legislation that would make it much easier to
build medium to large scale developments such as supermarkets to airports.
The legislation will mean that developers will not have to worry about
getting planning permission.

Hastings Council recently made an appalling decision to grant planning
permission to build a block of flats on Robsack Meadow that sits right in
the middle of Church and Robsack Wood LNR. It is all very shocking.

Richard.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Roper
Sent: 02 August 2008 16:09
To: 'Adastra discussion group'
Subject: [Adastra] Threat to woodland

Some rather worrying news, for those who do not already know about it, from
Alice Farr of the Woodland Trust here:

http://wtcampaigns.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/drilling-for-destruction-again/

Patrick Roper

[Adastra] Eastbourne Pier on Sunday

[Richard Price]

Did anyone else watch the spectacle as the starlings got ready to roost on
Eastbourne pier on Sunday?

 

It was a wonderful site as the black cloud of starlings created various
impressive shapes in the sky. Just as they seemed to be about to settle a
large bird dived into the cloud and caused some brilliant synchronised
flying. The bird then appeared to be flying away before returning and diving
into the cloud and flying off to the North. I didn't get a close look and
couldn't tell if it had caught a starling because it was about 2-300 yards
away. I wondered if anyone else had seen this and could identify the bird?

[Adastra] Cabinet, Monday 2 March 2009 - Robsack A

[Richard Price]

I am unsure if any of these groups are moderated by Hastings Borough Council
employees but here goes.

 

Hastings Borough Council (HBC) are holding a public meeting on the 2nd of
March at 6pm on the subject of Robsack Meadow also known (by the council) as
Robsack A. 

 

This meadow sits in the middle of Church Wood and Robsack Wood Local Nature
Reserve is surrounded on three sides by BAP priority semi natural ancient
woodland. It is owned by HBC who are very keen to sell it for a substantial
sum to a developer. They gave themselves outline planning permission after a
notifying ten local residents of their intentions. People are still
objecting to this decision. The meeting is about the sale of the land.

 

Robsack Meadow has been noted for its invertebrates, in summer bees and
butterflies are very apparent, and in the evenings bats use the narrow strip
of woodland that connects the two woods. This connecting strip is considered
vital for the bats.

 

There is a cabinet report on the meeting whose title is;

 

Report Title: Site Robsack A, Off Robsack Avenue

Report By:   Peter Grace   (Head of Financial Services)

 

According to the councils own document one of the main merits of the
disposal is the substantial amount of money that they will receive. They
budgeted for this receipt before submitting the planning application to
themselves.

 

The report can be reached at:

http://tinyurl.com/c9p6nh

 

Or:

http://www.hastings.gov.uk/meetings/meetings_docs/090302~cabinet~report05~Si
te_Robsack_A_Off_Roback_Avenue.htm

 

HBC borough ecologist is keen to speak at the meeting and others will be
attending. Please attend this meeting to hear HBC in action; conserving
nature and preserving ancient woodlands. If you are passionate about nature
you might like to visit the LNR and meadow and consider if you think two
large blocks of flats with underground parking for 35 cars will affect the
LNR or wildlife.

 

I look forward to any comments.

 

All the best,

Richard Price.

Re: [Adastra] Cabinet, Monday 2 March 2009 - Robsack A

[Richard Price]

Hi Stuart,

One positive result is that I aim to ensure that the site gets thoroughly
surveyed and that all biological data for this site gets lodged with the
records centre. The recent surveyors and HBC do not appear to have contacted
the Sussex Biodiversity records centre during the process. I would have
thought that this should always be the first step when assessing a site for
development especially one in the middle of a LNR!

Thank you for your suggestion. The CPRE have not been contacted, although
one of the petition signatures signed himself as a member of it. Only 10
local people were notified and those who found out had a very short amount
of time to act. Hoever, there were approximately 100 petitioners and many
letter writers. I did not hear about this until the planning had been
granted and it is likely that most residents of the Hasting had a similar
experience.

I am very concerned that major landscape changes are occurring here in the
South-East and they will affect the biodiversity in Sussex and Kent. I
wonder if the Government have provided guidance for councils that is to
favour building wherever possible? It seems that the legislation to protect
wildlife and sites that I felt was strong is in fact very-very weak. SSSIs
with the greatest possible statutory protection are fair-game as is any
other site. It must be very disillusioning for anyone working in the field.

The recent Hastings to Bexhill Link road was opposed by The Sussex Wildlife
Trust, Natural England, The Environmental Agency, The Woodland Trust, and
English Heritage, all who stated that the mitigation would not work. Yet,
the council give themselves planning permission, without a public inquiry.
When borough or county councils give themselves planning permission than the
only hope of saving biodiversity, or protecting sites is to contact the MP.
But if our local MP supports them, than there is no democracy and legal
action is the only route. For most, this costs too much. The protection for
sites is notional/pretend and I didn't vote for this. And, what about the
recent dreadful court decision at West Thurrock rated by Buglife as one of
the top three sites in the UK but due to be replaced by Royal Mail sheds.
Sadly, I don't think that Lydd and the surrounding area have much chance.
 
I realise that I have rambled on, on my high-horse. Thank you for your
message and ideas, I shall contact the CPRE. I don't know Greg Barker, what
does he do? 

I took a look at your website; I work as a contract web developer and think
it is one of the better sites that I have seen.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Richard.



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From: Stuart Cooper [mailto:s...@multitask-computing.co.uk] 
Sent: 26 February 2009 10:16
To: adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
Cc: freerich...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: Cabinet, Monday 2 March 2009 - Robsack A

Hi Richard,

Have you involved the CPRE in Sussex? Or Greg Barker perhaps?

This sort of thing is happening all the time sadly - housing and jobs appear
to outweigh all other considerations even SSSIs. Look at the ridiculous
attempt to develop Lydd Airport for another example.

I manage www.brede.org.uk and will add this meeting there.

Kind regards,

Stuart.

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:32:19 -
From: "Richard Price" 
Subject: [Adastra] Cabinet, Monday 2 March 2009 - Robsack A
To: 
Cc: hastings_wildl...@yahoogroups.com,
rye_bay_wildl...@yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <004a01c9974d$7c033230$740996...@com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I am unsure if any of these groups are moderated by Hastings Borough Council
employees but here goes.

Hastings Borough Council (HBC) are holding a public meeting on the 2nd of
March at 6pm on the subject of Robsack Meadow also known (by the council) as
Robsack A. 

This meadow sits in the middle of Church Wood and Robsack Wood Local Nature
Reserve is surrounded on three sides by BAP priority semi natural ancient
woodland. It is owned by HBC who are very keen to sell it for a substantial
sum to a developer. They gave themselves outline planning permission after a
notifying ten local residents of their intentions. People are still
objecting to this decision. The meeting is about the sale of the land.
 
Robsack Meadow has been noted for its invertebrates, in summer bees and
butterflies are very apparent, and in the evenings bats use the narrow strip
of woodland that connects the two woods. This connecting strip is considered
vital for the bats.

There is a cabinet report on the meeting whose title is;

Report Title: Site Robsack A, Off Robsack Avenue
Report By:   Peter Grace   (Head of Financial Services)
 
According to the councils own document one of the main merits of the
disposal is the substantial amount of money that they will receive. They
budgeted for this receipt before submitting the planning application to
themselves.

The report can be reached 

Re: [Adastra] Otter spotting

[Richard Price]

Dear Fran,

 

I think that I may have seen an otter sign yesterday lunchtime walking along
the banks of the Ouse near the Police Headquarters at Lewes. I remember
seeing a photograph of something similar in a book but have forgotten what
it was called. The books photo showed footsteps from a river with a strange
fan shape indentation in the mud and then footsteps back into the river. The
mud on the bank of the Ouse where I saw the same type of sign was wet and
the tracks were not good enough to take a cast of if I had had some plaster
of paris on me. However, the sign was exactly the same, I must dig the book
out. What do you think? Do mink also catch fish and drag them onto soft mud
to kill? I wish I had had a camera with me. Can records be raised from such
a sign?

 

I would like to attend your training day.

 

All the best,

Richard Price.

0787 345 6001

 

 

 

From: adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
[mailto:adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk] On Behalf Of
fransouthg...@sussexwt.org.uk
Sent: 03 April 2009 14:26
To: adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
Subject: [Adastra] Otter spotting

 

 

Hi All, 

For those of you who are out there rummaging in the wetland wilds of Sussex
on a regular basis I would really appreciate your help in keeping an eye out
for the return of the ever elusive otter. We are aware that it is making a
comeback and although numbers are still incredibly low, there are increasing
numbers of sightings across an ever expanding geographical range. Areas of
particular interest are catchments adjacent to Hampshire (W Rother and Arun
and Chichester Harbour), the Medway and far East of Sussex (Brede, Rye, E
Rother, Tillingham). 

I have a list of sites (attached excel spreadsheet) which have been
identified as easy to survey sites on main roads. If anyone would be able to
adopt one of these sites it would be greatly appreciated. Just let me know
your email address and I will add you to the list. You can send in any
survey results either to me or to the SxBRC via their Recorder spreadsheet
available from their website. Please report negative sightings as well as
positive ones as it is almost more important for us to know where otters are
not found than it is to know where they are. 

If you survey some of the better and more remote wetland or river sites on a
regular basis and know of a good spot which might be used by otters as a
territorial marker then let me know the grid reference and I will add it to
my list of survey sites. I am sure there are many better survey sites than
the ones listed, and would value your feedback as to where these sites are. 

<> 
If you feel you need a little more practice then we will be running an otter
survey training day on October 6th (£10 a head just to cover expenses, but
free to non-professional volunteers)

OR you can also find information on otter and mink signs at
<http://www.sussexotters.org/wildlife/otters3.htm>
http://www.sussexotters.org/wildlife/otters3.htm 

Thanks for all your help 

Fran 

 

Fran Southgate 
Sussex Otters and Rivers Partnership 
Sussex Wildlife Trust 
Henfield 
W Sussex 
BN5 9SD 
01273 497555 
07769 886696 
www.sussexotters.org   

The Sussex Otters and Rivers Project promotes sustainable management of
rivers and their landscapes, and the restoration of wetland habitats for the
benefit of people and wildlife.  The project is supported by Environment
Agency, South East Water, Southern Water Services and Sussex Wildlife Trust
and is a partner of the national ‘Water for Wildlife’ project.

  _  


Sussex Wildlife Trust is a company limited by guarantee under the Companies
Act. Registered in England, Company No. 698851. Registered Charity No.
207005. VAT Registration No. 191 305969. Registered Office: Woods Mill,
Henfield, West Sussex BN5 9SD. Telephone 01273 492630

[Adastra] Ecclesbourne Glen

[Richard Price]

Today in Hastings the weather was misty and cold, I didn't expect to see
many birds during my walk. But I was pleasantly surprised. 

 

At the viewpoint at the cliff top Ecclesbourne Glen I watched a Raven. It
chased the crows from their perches on the cliff face and chased them round
the sky. Then they all swirled round in the air together until the Raven
went for a rest. It then returned and repeated the process. At one time
there was a fulmar, raven and several crows and a few herring gulls in the
sky at one time. The raven chased a herring gull and was surprisingly agile
in the air for such a big bird. It looked about twice the size of the crows
and the views were very close, spectacular.

Re: [Adastra] Grey squirrels do not harm woodland birds

[Richard Price]

I never saw one eat a bird but is it possible that they could affect
woodland ecology in other ways. Any experts out there that could answer
this?

-Original Message-
From: adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
[mailto:adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Roper
Sent: 09 January 2010 20:14
To: 'Adastra discussion group'
Subject: [Adastra] Grey squirrels do not harm woodland birds

An interesting article here (Grey squirrels 'do not harm woodland birds in
England'):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8448000/8448807.stm

Patrick Roper

Re: [Adastra] Injured common seal pup, Hove Beach

[Richard Price]

Dear Stephen,

 

I knew about this last week as a lady that I work with mentioned how upset
she was by what she saw. I was able to forward this message to her, she was
delighted with the result as she thought it had been killed.

 

The Brighton and Hove Seafront staff were excellent and even provided an
inflatable boat to assist. One turned up on a quad bike and was on the
seafront protecting the seal from the crowds. It all seemed under control
until a man with a green van turned up. She watched the "rescue. He picked
the seal pup up by its tail before swinging it so that it landed in the
shade of the groyne. This resulted in the terrified animal escaping back
into the sea. Most likely, it was later retrieved by a normal (non Sussex
Wildlife Rescue) person and taken into Mallydams, probably exhausted and
close to death.

 

I asked her if the man with the van was a medic, she replied that, in her
opinion he did not behave in a very medical and caring way. When you say
joint rescue you probably mean that later a medic turned up for the second
rescue.

 

All the best,

Richard.

 

 

From: adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
[mailto:adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: 10 August 2011 17:29
To: adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
Subject: [Adastra] Injured common seal pup, Hove Beach

 

Sorry for the delay in posting this message

 

A seal was beached on Hove Beach (East Sussex) on Sunday, July 31st. The
seal turned out to be a common seal pup less than a month old with serious
injuries to its face and head, including a bad gash beside the left eye. 

 

A joint rescue took place by the wildlife rescue ambulance and BDMLR medic.
At 4:45pm, the pup was on the beach near Hove Lagoon, before the seal went
back into the sea. 

 

The seal was relocated again later when it came back ashore and was taken to
the RSPCA Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre Mallydams Woods in Hastings were he
is currently receiving care. 

 

The pup was reported as being repeatedly sighted from about 3:00pm at
different areas along Hove Beach throughout the day until we picked him up
at about 7:30pm.

 

This is also interesting as there are no know seal breeding groups in
Sussex, even the resident seals in Chichester (West Sussex) have not been
recorded as breeding. It does make you wonder where the pup came from as it
is so young. Even with currents etc, I can't imagine that it was born too
far away. I wonder if there is a mother around somewhere. We have been
recording a seal in the area for the last few weeks.

 

Common seal mothers only feed their young for 4-6 weeks before they are
weaned, leaving them to fend for themselves. This seal did look quite thin
rather than the large fat reserves a pup should have when weaned. Maybe it
became separated too early and been on its own for sometime!

 

More information about Sussex Seals and other marine life can be seen on my
weblog http://sussexmarinejottings.blogspot.com/

 

 

Stephen Savage

 

Sussex County Recorder for Sea Mammals

Sea Watch Foundation Regional Coordinator

 

Re: [Adastra] Injured common seal pup, Hove Beach

[Richard Price]

Hello Steve,

Thank you for the information; it is very interesting and I shall also pass
it onto my work colleague.

The seal was not handled to stop it reaching the sea, it was picked up and
thrown into the shade of the groyne possibly to keep it out of the sun. It
might have been less stressful to use an umbrella or piece of tarpaulin.

The result is what counts and it is such good news that the pup is being
cared for at Mallydams; we are so lucky to have such a centre in Sussex.

Best regards,
Richard.

P.S.
If you contact via my email address I can pass you on the phone number or
email address of the witness if you need to communicate with her.


-Original Message-
From: adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
[mailto:adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: 14 August 2011 13:48
To: adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Adastra] Injured common seal pup, Hove Beach

Hello Richard

Many thanks for this information. It is difficult for me to comment as I did
not attend this rescue as I was not local on the day. I got a call from
BDWLR who at that time said that all was in hand and they would provide an
update.

My report is based on the BDMLR medic who arrived after the East Sussex
Wildlife rescue ambulance. This I guess is based on what she was told on
arrival.

I have attended strandings with staff from the wildlife rescue ambulance
before but on these occasions they were dead strandings, although I know
they have attended live seals before. Maybe this depends on who attends on
the day as of course they rescue a wide range of (mainly terrestrial)
wildlife and my impression in the past is that they seem to be very
professional and do a good job.

That said, I am very concerned about the way the person was described to man
handle the seal, especially a pup. I don't know how close the seal was to
the sea when the person grabbed the seal (presumably by its hind flippers -
the tail is only a few inches long) and swung it up the beach. Had the seal
almost reached the water and the person was grabbing it to stop it going in?

Even so I would not advocate grabbing an injured seal (which I am guessing
the extents of its injuries were not known at that time) in this way and
swinging it up the beach. Also, stress is of course the biggest killer of
any injured animal!

For a seal, adult or young, sea is safety and they will always try to make
their way to water. In the rescues I have been able to attend I have come at
the seal from the water edge which usually results in the seal shuffling up
the beach where it can be rescued if necessary. Even when I have been on my
own (and rising tide meaning quick action was needed) I have then used a
blanket to restrain the animal, temporarily covering its head which calms it
down. Then carefully rolling the blanket around the seal to restrain it and
restrict its head movement - they can reach back as far as their tail and
their bite is said to be as powerful as a bear.

When the medic arrived the seal was again in the water - maybe after the
event you mention. 

The seal was later located when it came ashore and taken to malladams, I
think the ambulance was used to transport the seal. It was reported to me as
being a joint rescue.

My impression in general is that sometimes animals are handled in a way that
seems 'cruel' but necessary at that time for the overall good of that
animal. If that was or was not the case here I cannot really comment as I
did not see it, but from the description it does seem to indicate at best a
lack of judgment.

Generally juvenile seals I have attended are suffering from pneumonia and
emaciated rather than having physical injuries. Seal pups are weaned after
4-6 weeks and the left to fend for themselves living off their fat reserves
until they get the hang of feeding themselves. This is a vulnerable stage
and older juvenile seals are more commonly stranded on Sussex beaches.

I will certainly be passing on this information.

All the best

Steve


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Re: [Adastra] Interesting article about recording

[Richard Price]

I think this is most likely an unfortunate accident with the sender thinking
that he was emailing personally rather than to the group. I don't know who
Peter Jones is but he seems upset.

 

From: adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
[mailto:adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk] On Behalf Of
tallent...@btinternet.com
Sent: 20 February 2012 12:30
To: Adastra discussion group
Subject: Re: [Adastra] Interesting article about recording

 

I agree with Candida's sentiments, but am puzzled like Evan as Peter's
message seems to have come from nowhere... have we missed something?

Bev Wadge

  _  

From: Vivien Hodge 
To: 'Adastra discussion group'  
Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2012, 17:37
Subject: [Adastra] Interesting article about recording

 

Not quite sure what you are puzzled about Evan.

 

Candida Gould has posted a very clear and justifiable response to an
offensive an inappropriate post by Peter Jones.   I agree entirely with the
sentiments expressed by Candida.

 

Vivien Hodge

 

From: adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
[mailto:adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk] On Behalf Of Evan Jones
Sent: 18 February 2012 13:00
To: adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Adastra] Adastra Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4

 

!!!??? Er Wot
Anybody else puzzled?

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:07:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Candida Gould 
To: Adastra discussion group 
Subject: Re: [Adastra] Interesting article about recording
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?Hello Peter

I have never come accross such rude comments on the Adastra Mailing Lists.?
It is supposed to be an information sharing centre, why get personal?

Candi
From: Peter Jones 
To: Adastra discussion group 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Adastra] Interesting article about recording


Charles, why haven't you replied to me in ?person? Do you damn well exist?
?It is uninterested behaviour like yours that pisses off people like me.



On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Charles Roper 
wrote:

I came across this today from the BBC:
>
>Wildlife recorders: Bingo conservationists?
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17041865?
>
>
>--
>Charles Roper
>Biodiversity IT Officer
>Sussex Biodiversity Record Centre (SxBRC)
>sxbrc.org.uk?|?01273   497554
>
>
>Sussex Wildlife Trust is a company limited by guarantee under the Companies
Act. Registered in England, Company No. 698851. Registered Charity No.
207005. VAT Registration No. 191 305969. Registered Office: Woods Mill,
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Re: [Adastra] vandalism and right to roam

[Richard price]

Are you saying landowners including farmers are not responsible for clearing 
meadows? I member reading that 97% were lost since ww2. How did it happen one 
wonders? It was not all ploughed up during the war but was lost as a result of 
the change in policy from that point onwards. Landowners could have said no, 
but meadows were not worth as much as Crops.

I note that you seem to think meadows don't have value except perhaps as 
agricultural land. Please think again.

Well done David for your stand. I am cheering you on from the sidelines 
whomever you are.

[Adastra] Recording Habitats

[Richard Price]

Is it possible to record a habitat? If so how?

 

One of the best spots in Hastings Country Park is a soft cliff face that
decends to a seepage habitat. I think that the seepage might not be noted.

 

 

[Adastra] Bee Eater?

[Richard Price]

After hearing about lots of dead bumble bees at Eccelesbourne meadow in
Hastings Country Park I took a walk and yes there are dead bees all over the
meadow. I examined a few and they nearly all have emptied out abdomens.
Abdomens with no contents. I thought this was likely to be some creature
going around finding dead bees and eating the abdomen contents. However, I
came across one alive that had had the contents of the abdomen removed along
with the sting. It looks as if something is eating bumble bees by pulling
out the abdomen contents via the sting, I wondered if this could be evidence
of a bird called a bee eater or maybe a fly catcher. Does anyone know of a
bird that would eat bumble bees via the sting?

Re: [Adastra] Bee Eater?

[Richard Price]

Hi Tom,

 

I had a post from someone who might be a Sussex Ornithological Society member 
and he let me know that bee-eaters have been in Sussex. I don’t think that a 
record can be made for Ecclesbourne Meadow because no one has seen or heard 
them. However, bumble bees all all of which I have been found near the fence 
surrounding the meadow. All with hollowed out abdomens taken out via the sting 
could be indicative.

 

I found another one alive today with a hollowed out abdomen.

 

I share below the information that I received. 

 

from Wikipedia: Before eating its meal, a bee-eater removes the  
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinger> stinger by repeatedly hitting and 
rubbing the insect on a hard surface. During this process, pressure is applied 
to the insect thereby extracting most of the venom. 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee-eater#cite_note-EoB-1> [1] Notably, the birds 
only catch prey that are on the wing and ignore flying insects once they land.

 

http://www.sos.org.uk/index.php?option=com_jobline4 
<http://www.sos.org.uk/index.php?option=com_jobline4&Itemid=10> &Itemid=10 :-


19 Apr 2015

Five Bee-eaters at Abbott's Wood


Five BEE-EATERS at Abbott's Wood (near Hailsham) just off A27. Showed well in 
area where tree felling had taken place at approx 3.00 pm for 15 minutes before 
flying off. Incredible!

(Presumably the same five birds that were at Dover until 10.30 today when they 
flew off high SE - Ed).

Posted on 19 Apr 2015 by Kaella Lawson & Mark Lawrence

 

 

Thank you.

 

Best regards,

Richard.

 

 

 

From: Adastra [mailto:adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas 
Wood
Sent: 20 April 2015 17:41
To: Adastra discussion group
Subject: Re: [Adastra] Bee Eater?

 

Hi Richard,

 

Great tits are well known for emptying out queen bumblebees. Each bird tends to 
have it's own way of doing things, so sometimes they have the thorax cleaned 
out and sometimes the abdomen, the finished bee looking like a soft boiled egg.

 

Tom

 

On 20 April 2015 at 09:21, Richard Price  wrote:

After hearing about lots of dead bumble bees at Eccelesbourne meadow in 
Hastings Country Park I took a walk and yes there are dead bees all over the 
meadow. I examined a few and they nearly all have emptied out abdomens. 
Abdomens with no contents. I thought this was likely to be some creature going 
around finding dead bees and eating the abdomen contents. However, I came 
across one alive that had had the contents of the abdomen removed along with 
the sting. It looks as if something is eating bumble bees by pulling out the 
abdomen contents via the sting, I wondered if this could be evidence of a bird 
called a bee eater or maybe a fly catcher. Does anyone know of a bird that 
would eat bumble bees via the sting?

 

Re: [Adastra] Henfield Common football pitch project: No Environmental Impact Assessment was done

[Richard Price]

I do sometimes get confused between the role of parish council and borough 
council. Often the same people sit on both despite this appearing to be a 
conflict. Do you have a list of members to write to?

 

It seems almost routine for some developers to clear land (or spray it) prior 
to applying for planning permission. Once upon a time planning departments 
would have taken a dim view of such practices. These days they seem to reward 
them by granting planning permission. I am unsure of how good Henfield Borough 
Council (if there is one) or West Sussex County Council are on such practices.

 

Is it possible to have some photographs of the site before and after? Why do 
you need it surveyed? Is it to determine what remains? To determine the extent 
of damage? I think that unless you have some previous baseline datum to work 
from otherwise a new survey will not determine the extent of the damage. Can 
you apply to get the site incorporated within the SNCI? How are you going to 
protect it?

 

I think that you have done well to highlight this Dave stay positive you might 
succeed in protecting the grassland. I think there is a grasslands trust that 
you could also contact.

 

All the best,

Richard.

 

From: Adastra [mailto:adastra-boun...@lists.sxbrc.org.uk] On Behalf Of D BANGS
Sent: 16 May 2017 14:32
To: Adastra discussion group 
Subject: [Adastra] Henfield Common football pitch project: No Environmental 
Impact Assessment was done

 

Adastra readers see below.
Henfield Parish Council did no EIA.
They made no approach to the Sussex Wildlife Trust, despite them being just 
down the road.
Natural England were, as usual, toothless,
Dave Bangs
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Original message
>From : henfiel...@btconnect.com  
Date : 16/05/2017 - 12:55 (GMTST)
To : bangs...@btinternet.com  
Cc : richardkendall...@icloud.com  , 
garypetti...@hotmail.com  , 
mikepmor...@btinternet.com  , 
vassossianto...@gmail.com  , 
malcolmeastwood...@btinternet.com  , 
off...@henfield.gov.uk  
Subject : Henfield Common football pitch project: damage to archaic grassland

Dear Mr Bangs,

 

Further to your earlier email, I can confirm that there was no Environmental 
Impact Assessment carried out on the Henfield Memorial Field pitches.

 

For your information Henfield Parish Council did contact ‘Natural England,’ 
‘Historic England’ and ‘The Open Spaces Society,’ amongst others, to inform 
them of the proposals to carry out the work. Only The Open Spaces Society 
responded and gave no objections to the work being carried out.

 

I can confirm that the contract to carry out the renovation work has already 
been agreed between Henfield Parish Council and the contractor, and it is 
anticipated that the work will commence in the next couple of weeks, subject to 
weather conditions being favourable.

 

Kind regards,

Kevin Wright

Clerk – Henfield Parish Council

 

From: D BANGS [mailto:bangs...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: Monday, 15 May, 2017 8:17 PM
To: off...@henfield.gov.uk  
Subject: Henfield Common football pitch project: damage to archaic grassland

 

From: David Bangs

Field naturalist and author

bangs...@btinternet.com  

T: 01273 620 815

15/05/17

To: Mr Kevin Wright, Henfield Parish Clerk

Dear Mr Wright

Damage to archaic species-rich grassland at Henfield Common

Thank you for speaking to me on the phone today.

I re-visited the Common after our phone chat and was appalled.

The football pitch project area sprayed by herbicide/gramicide takes in well 
over half of the area in which Chamomile, Chamaemelum nobile, is present. This 
is a rare and steeply declining species and the number of Sussex sites where it 
naturally occurs is now very small. 

Its presence in quantity is one of the core nature conservation features of the 
Common.

The area sprayed displays (in my short visit today) a number of high nature 
value scarce plants, including Chamomile, Heath Spotted Orchis and Southern 
Marsh Orchis, Adder’s Tongue Fern, Marsh Pennywort, Common Yellow Sedge, Oval 
Sedge, Hairy Sedge, Devil’s Bit, Tormentil, and Heath Speedwell. 

In a single brief visit to the pitch project area in 2013 I recorded six 
significant old meadow fungi species: two Fairy Clubs, a Pinkgill and three 
Waxcap fungi. I suspect a properly conducted survey for this group would record 
many more.

As I said to you, Henfield Common is largely an SNCI (Site of Nature 
Conservation Interest). The area of the cricket pitch and the old ball pitches 
(which are the subject of HPC’s project) was anomalously excluded from the 
designated SNCI only because the appropriate surv