Re: TSM database maximum recommended size

[Sutch, Ian (London)]

We have 80gb databases on 4 x IBM NSM's (COO, H50's, SSA disk 1gb Memory
etc)

They take over 4 hours to back up. We recently migrated a TSM database from
one NSM to another and
it took 18 hours to restore...far far too long if faced with disaster
recovery.

Its not an easy probelm to fix.

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Zarnowski
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:41 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: TSM database maximum recommended size
>
> At 12:08 PM 4/3/2002 -0500, Scott McCambly wrote:
> >How many sites are running with databases this large or larger? On what
> >hardware?
>
> Our DB is now 116GB assigned (92% full).
> Hardware is RS6000/M80, 2GB RAM, SSA disks (db is mirrored by TSM)
> As others have said, "it depends".  If your requirement is to be able to
> restore a database quickly, then your max size will be smaller.

Re: switches for DSMADMC command

[Andrew Raibeck]

H

OK, that's at least two people who are pretty savvy, who couldn't find
this info easily.

Just out of curiosity, where did you try to look? I know the client does
have a man page (which would help on UNIX only anyway)... did you try
using the Admin CLI's online HELP faciltiy (enter HELP from the command
line)? Which books did you check?

The reason I am asking is to see whether there is any common ground for
where you did go to look, and maybe we can address the issue. For example,
if you tried the client books, then maybe it would be helpful if we put a
pointer in the client books to use the Admin CLI's online HELP or to see
the Admin Reference.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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There are some in the beginning of the Admin Ref book, e.g. -id,
-password,
-quiet, -consolemode etc...

-Original Message-
From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:56 PM
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Subject: switches for DSMADMC command


Where can I find more switched for this command??

Thanks

Joe

-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Ike,
I got it to work with some help from Dennis Glover.  He sent me an
example of something that worked.  The big difference was that the -COMMA
option MUST BE LISTED BEFORE THE MACRO option.   So
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  -COMMA MACRO DD:D2works fine but
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  MACRO DD:D2 -COMMA does not!
Matt

Re: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.

[Andrew Raibeck]

>> What could a customer do for DR of a client which lost it's encryption key 
and needed to restore data from the TSM backup (encrypted). <<

Start guessing, I suppose. Other than that, they would be out of luck. 
Like I said below:

"someone intercepting the TSM server database and storage pool volumes 
could not restore the data without the encryption key (unless they can 
hack it, but then any encryption scheme is subject to hacking)."

While that was presumably in the context of someone illegitimately trying 
to access the data, that isn't really pertinent. No matter who is trying 
to access the data, legitimate or now, they won't be able to get the data 
without the encryption key. There is nothing we at IBM can do to get the 
data back, as we build no "back doors" into the product (if we did, that 
would be a potential security issue).

Someone else made a post on this topic and mentioned something about 
encryption key management. I am not familiar with the formalities of this 
discipline, but it seems to me that if you are going to start encrypting 
your TSM data, you should consider implementing policies for managing 
encryption keys.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




"Joshua S. Bassi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject:RE: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.

 

Andy,

What could a customer do for DR of a client which lost it's encryption
key and needed to restore data from the TSM backup (encrypted).


--
Joshua S. Bassi
Sr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.com
IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark
Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
Cell (415) 215-0326

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Andrew Raibeck
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.

There is no additional encryption performed by the TSM server. The 
encrypted data sent by the client remains, of course, encrypted when it
is 
copied to a copy storage pool or backup set (or anywhere else in the TSM

hierarchy).

Files that were encrypted when they were backed up can not be restored 
without the encryption key. The encryption key is not stored on the TSM 
server. Therefore, someone intercepting the TSM server database and 
storage pool volumes could not restore the data without the encryption
key 
(unless they can hack it, but then any encryption scheme is subject to 
hacking).

Except for TSM client encryption, there are no other TSM-enabled means
of 
encrypting the data.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




Pétur Eyþórsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject:RE: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption
in  TSM.

 

My question was conserning 2 things.


If you use Encryption. Cant people who get a hold of the TSM Database
and
the Copy Storage Pools, restore the data, whether the data was back up 
with
Encrytpion or not?

If you make a bakup set from the data back up. is ther Encryption on
that
data? if not is ther posible to make the backup sets more secure?


I have read about Encryption, witch sais that the data is Encrypted
before
the data is sent on the TSM Server. i haven´t read anything about 
Encrytpion
on the acctual TSM server data, whether the data uses encryption there
or
not. It does not matter if the data is Encrypted on the way to the TSM,
it
only matters if i can secure the data offsite? And i havent read
anything
about that in TSM only about Encryption in TSM for clients.


Kvedja/Regards
Petur Eythorsson
Taeknimadur/Technician
IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
Microsoft Certified System Engineer

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nyherji Hf  Simi TEL: +354-569-7700
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Martin, Jon R.
Sent: 2. apríl 2002 14:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.


In Petur's defense, I think he is trying to s

Internal Server Error Detected.

[Pothula S Paparao]

Hi All,

Do anybody has idea about the below errors. AIX 4.3.3 / TSM 4.1.4.
Your help is highly appreciated.


03/23/02   11:00:01  ANR2017I Administrator ADMIN issued .command:
BACKUP VOLHISTORY
03/23/02   11:00:01  ANR0407I Session 54983 started for
administrator ADMIN (AIX) (Tcp/Ip 9.186.115.26(52204)).
03/23/02   11:00:01  ANR2032E BACKUP VOLHISTORY: Command failed -
internal server error detected.
03/26/02   11:00:01  ANR2017I Administrator ADMIN issued command:
BACKUP DB dev=dumpdb t=f
03/26/02   11:00:01  ANR0407I Session 64787 started for
administrator ADMIN (AIX) (Tcp/Ip 9.186.115.26(50938)).
03/26/02   11:00:01  ANR2032E BACKUP DB: Command failed - internal
server error detected.
.

Re: Query about QUERY in TSM

[Williams, Tim P {PBSG}]

Can you clarify?
are you asking about what different type of queries there are...
on an admin command line:
help query
?


-Original Message-
From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Query about QUERY in TSM


Is there a table in TSM where I can look to see the SQL query run
for the various QUERY commands?

Re: switches for DSMADMC command

[Mr. Lindsay Morris]

TSM admin ref, Chapter 3- Using the command line interface.
I've spent a long time looking for this, too.

-
Mr. Lindsay Morris
CEO, Servergraph
www.servergraph.com
859-253-8000 ofc
425-988-8478 fax


> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Joe Cascanette
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: switches for DSMADMC command
>
>
> Thanks, ill check again.
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: switches for DSMADMC command
>
>
> In the TSM Administrator's Reference.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
>
>
>
> Joe Cascanette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 04/03/2002 12:56
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
> Subject:switches for DSMADMC command
>
>
>
> Where can I find more switched for this command??
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS
>
>
> Ike,
> I got it to work with some help from Dennis Glover.  He sent me an
> example of something that worked.  The big difference was that the -COMMA
> option MUST BE LISTED BEFORE THE MACRO option.   So
> DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  -COMMA MACRO DD:D2works fine but
> DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  MACRO DD:D2 -COMMA does not!
> Matt
>

RE: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.

[Joshua S. Bassi]

Andy,

What could a customer do for DR of a client which lost it's encryption
key and needed to restore data from the TSM backup (encrypted).


--
Joshua S. Bassi
Sr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.com
IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark
Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
Cell (415) 215-0326

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Andrew Raibeck
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.

There is no additional encryption performed by the TSM server. The 
encrypted data sent by the client remains, of course, encrypted when it
is 
copied to a copy storage pool or backup set (or anywhere else in the TSM

hierarchy).

Files that were encrypted when they were backed up can not be restored 
without the encryption key. The encryption key is not stored on the TSM 
server. Therefore, someone intercepting the TSM server database and 
storage pool volumes could not restore the data without the encryption
key 
(unless they can hack it, but then any encryption scheme is subject to 
hacking).

Except for TSM client encryption, there are no other TSM-enabled means
of 
encrypting the data.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




Pétur Eyþórsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
04/02/2002 07:57
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: 
Subject:RE: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption
in  TSM.

 

My question was conserning 2 things.


If you use Encryption. Cant people who get a hold of the TSM Database
and
the Copy Storage Pools, restore the data, whether the data was back up 
with
Encrytpion or not?

If you make a bakup set from the data back up. is ther Encryption on
that
data? if not is ther posible to make the backup sets more secure?


I have read about Encryption, witch sais that the data is Encrypted
before
the data is sent on the TSM Server. i haven´t read anything about 
Encrytpion
on the acctual TSM server data, whether the data uses encryption there
or
not. It does not matter if the data is Encrypted on the way to the TSM,
it
only matters if i can secure the data offsite? And i havent read
anything
about that in TSM only about Encryption in TSM for clients.


Kvedja/Regards
Petur Eythorsson
Taeknimadur/Technician
IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
Microsoft Certified System Engineer

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nyherji Hf  Simi TEL: +354-569-7700
 Borgartun 37105 Iceland
 URL:http://www.nyherji.is


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Martin, Jon R.
Sent: 2. apríl 2002 14:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.


In Petur's defense, I think he is trying to say he could not find
anywhere
that specifically said "data in a Seq. Access Storage Pool, that goes
offsite will be encrypted."  I can't see where he says he read a
document
that says it is not encrypted.

Jon

-Original Message-
From: Jack Magill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: =?8859_1?B?ZG9utHQg?=aynone know anything about Encryption
in TSM.


Hi, I was just wondering where you found the information stating that
the
data was only protected on the way to the server, but not on the server.
Encryption is done by the client using an encrytion key that it create
and
since the key is never passed from client to server, there is no way for

the
server to de-crypt the data before storage.

Please let me know, as I would like to look at the documentation.

Jack
>
> From: Pétur Eyþórsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2002/04/02 Tue AM 07:04:45 EST
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.
>
> Hi i have posted this 2 times before here but havent receved a reply 
yet.
> thus led me to belive that knowlegde on this is wery limited.
>
> I have a big custemer who is considerating TSM for there backup
system.
> However, they will be needing to take some of there backup offsite.
> They have extremly valible data witch may not get in the wrong hands.
>
> I have been reading up on Encryption in TSM and found it to be only
desingd
> to protect the data on the way
> to the TSM server. I found no info on werther the data would be 
Encrypted
in
> the storage pools.
>
> My question.
>
> Is it possible to make Backupset, and be sure no-one can use it if it 
gets
> in the wrong hands (Encrypt it somehow.
> How can a administrator be sure tha

MEMORYEFFICIENT Backup Option may be functioning incorrectly

[Seay, Paul]

Andy,
We believe that the default for MEMORYEFFICIENTBACKUP may be broken.  We had
several servers that we changed from no specification of
MEMORYEFFICIENTBACKUP to MEMORYEFFICIENTBACKUP NO and found that they ran
consistently 15 to 25 percent faster.  We are using 4.2.1.20 and 4.2.1.26 on
2 different servers and found this.  These servers are NT 4 6.0a with 380K
and 515K files on them respectively.

Re: switches for DSMADMC command

[Malbrough, Demetrius]

There are some in the beginning of the Admin Ref book, e.g. -id, -password,
-quiet, -consolemode etc...

-Original Message-
From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: switches for DSMADMC command


Where can I find more switched for this command??

Thanks

Joe

-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Ike,
I got it to work with some help from Dennis Glover.  He sent me an
example of something that worked.  The big difference was that the -COMMA
option MUST BE LISTED BEFORE THE MACRO option.   So
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  -COMMA MACRO DD:D2works fine but
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  MACRO DD:D2 -COMMA does not!
Matt

Re: TSM Server Sizing

[Bill Mansfield]

The other factor is storage growth.  You probably want your TSM server
architecture to last awhile, and I've seen estimates ranging from 50-300%
storage CAGR (and consistently seen the estimates exceeded).

There are several approaches:
- Buy the biggest, most scalable stuff you can afford, and hope for the
best.  This maximizes the upfront cost, but minimizes the downstream cost.
 You might get promoted before you run out of capacity.
- Buy what you think you will need for the next little while, and plan to
upgrade.  This works better for servers than libraries, and you can
usually find a use for an outgrown server.  Also, server price/performance
increases much faster than library price/capacity.
- Plan to grow modularly with lots of TSM servers.  Even TSM can't scale a
single server to extremely large environments, and sometimes you're better
off biting the bullet and architecting for multiple servers from the
getgo.

_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc





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Subject:Re: TSM Server Sizing


The number of servers and amount of storage mean nothing in my opinion.
The
issues of what type of storage it is, how many files on the servers, what
type of workload the server is, what type of server it is, what type of
network connection the server has, what is the backup window, and what
bandwidth is in the network are more interesting issues in the sizing.  If
they are all Gigabit, SAN connected ESS disk, and high end servers then
the
answer is much easier to calculate.

This is not something you just throw into a calculator and bing comes the
answer.  You have to model the environment, categorize the data and
servers,
figure out the critical path, and then you have a hope of configuring a
solution.

-Original Message-
From: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Server Sizing


Hi!

Does anyone have any good tips on sizing a TSM server appropriately?  I do
have the sizing tool but there is so much manual work in trying to
populate
that to get any information, particularly when you don't have
documentation
for every environment.  I would welcome some comparisons if you care to
share.  I will have automated tape libraries at each location also,
ranging
from a L180, L700 or Powderhorn.

I have 5 different sites to size:
1.) 40 servers - 1.5 tb storage total
2.) 50 servers - 1 tb storage total
3.) 300 servers - 11 tb. storage
4.) 125 servers - 6 tb. storage
5.) Moving from Mainframe to Unix - and merging two different backup
environments into one.
 TSM on OS/390 - Current occupancy is 18 TB, TSM database = 18gb
 Upstream - 325 clients

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

Brenda Collins
Storage Administrator
ING - Americas Infrastructure Services
(612) 342-3839  (Phone)
(612)510-0187  (Pager)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: TSM database maximum recommended size

[Paul Zarnowski]

At 12:08 PM 4/3/2002 -0500, Scott McCambly wrote:
>How many sites are running with databases this large or larger? On what
>hardware?

Our DB is now 116GB assigned (92% full).
Hardware is RS6000/M80, 2GB RAM, SSA disks (db is mirrored by TSM)
As others have said, "it depends".  If your requirement is to be able to
restore a database quickly, then your max size will be smaller.

Re: Question about tape drive utilization and the summary file

[Williams, Tim P {PBSG}]

lsdev -Cc tape
can you see the drive?
Ted has a good idea...
q mount shows nothing?
q sess f=d shows no mount for that drive?
mtlib -l/dev/lmcp0 -qM  (query mount from aix if you have aix...) to look
for a mount on the operating
system level...
is the drive available at the 3494?
some ideas.


-Original Message-
From: Qualls, Ted W {PBSG} [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question about tape drive utilization and the summary file


Have you tried taking drives 0,1 and 3 offline to see if drive 2 gets a
mount?

-Original Message-
From: David Jelinek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question about tape drive utilization and the summary file


Is the summary file supposed to list all tape mounts for drives online to
TSM? I thought that I would use the summary log to determine tape
utilization. When I pulled the data, I discovered that we have been using
drives 0,1, and 3 but not using drive 2 (not a single mount in a month and a
half according to the summary table). And yes, the drive has been online to
TSM the whole time with no errors reported that I can find. Am I missing
something obvious? We have a 3494 library with 3590 drives.
Thanks in advance.

--
David Jelinek
Systems Programmer
Central Michigan University

Re: move data

[David Longo]

Yes, with certain criteria.  If you make the 2 tapes (or any qty) to
read only and then move data on them, several possibilties
happen.  (I have done this before, so this is real experience).

1.  If there is any tape in this pool that is read write and filling then
one of these tapes will be the destination, if tape is in library.

2.  If no tapes in this pool fit this category, then a tape from scratch
will be chosen.  You have to make sure that only K tapes are scratch,
if there are J scratches they are just as likely to be chosen.

Also after you move data off a tape and it is then scratch, then check
it out from library or it is subject to be reused.

David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 05:05PM >>>
I can't actually try this since I have processes running so I thought I'd
see if I can get an answer while I'm waiting for access to drives. I have a
tape pool with 2 filling tapes and many full tapes. Can I update the 2
filling tapes to read only and expect that move data will move data from
filling and full tapes to scratch tapes?

What I'm trying to do is move data off the J tapes to K scratch tapes.

Thanks,

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 905-7154



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Invalid Password when Starting Server Console Monitor in Server Utilities

[Vin Yam]

When starting Server Console Monitor in Server Utilities I get ANS1051E
Invalid Password.

I'm not sure if the SERVER_CONSOLE password was changed or if Server Console
Monitor is entering in another password.  I tried to reset the
SERVER_CONSOLE admin account's password to blank, but it won't take.  Is
there a registry setting or configuration file for Server Utilities to set
the SERVER_CONSOLE password to blank?  The only remedy to this is to set
Authentication to Off which is unacceptable in our environment.

All other admin accounts work and Clients connect fine, but tape operators
are used to the Server Console Monitor and management requires this problem
remedied.

TSM Server 4.1.5
Windows NT 4.0 SP6a

Thanks for any help.

Vin

Re: switches for DSMADMC command

[Joe Cascanette]

Thanks, ill check again.

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: switches for DSMADMC command


In the TSM Administrator's Reference.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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Where can I find more switched for this command??

Thanks

Joe

-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Ike,
I got it to work with some help from Dennis Glover.  He sent me an
example of something that worked.  The big difference was that the -COMMA
option MUST BE LISTED BEFORE THE MACRO option.   So
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  -COMMA MACRO DD:D2works fine but
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  MACRO DD:D2 -COMMA does not!
Matt

Query about QUERY in TSM

[Coats, Jack]

Is there a table in TSM where I can look to see the SQL query run
for the various QUERY commands?

Re: TSM Server Sizing

[Seay, Paul]

The number of servers and amount of storage mean nothing in my opinion.  The
issues of what type of storage it is, how many files on the servers, what
type of workload the server is, what type of server it is, what type of
network connection the server has, what is the backup window, and what
bandwidth is in the network are more interesting issues in the sizing.  If
they are all Gigabit, SAN connected ESS disk, and high end servers then the
answer is much easier to calculate.

This is not something you just throw into a calculator and bing comes the
answer.  You have to model the environment, categorize the data and servers,
figure out the critical path, and then you have a hope of configuring a
solution.

-Original Message-
From: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Server Sizing


Hi!

Does anyone have any good tips on sizing a TSM server appropriately?  I do
have the sizing tool but there is so much manual work in trying to populate
that to get any information, particularly when you don't have documentation
for every environment.  I would welcome some comparisons if you care to
share.  I will have automated tape libraries at each location also, ranging
from a L180, L700 or Powderhorn.

I have 5 different sites to size:
1.) 40 servers - 1.5 tb storage total
2.) 50 servers - 1 tb storage total
3.) 300 servers - 11 tb. storage
4.) 125 servers - 6 tb. storage
5.) Moving from Mainframe to Unix - and merging two different backup
environments into one.
 TSM on OS/390 - Current occupancy is 18 TB, TSM database = 18gb
 Upstream - 325 clients

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

Brenda Collins
Storage Administrator
ING - Americas Infrastructure Services
(612) 342-3839  (Phone)
(612)510-0187  (Pager)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ESTCAPACITY - 3590 K tapes (extended length)

[Seay, Paul]

I use 100GB

Once a tape is full the estimated number becomes the real amount of data on
the tape, so all the percentages become actuals then.

-Original Message-
From: Michael, Monte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ESTCAPACITY - 3590 K tapes (extended length)


We have just converted our 3590J tape cartridges to 3590K tape cartridges
(extended length).  I was curious what most people have entered as an
estimated capacity for these type of tapes.  This is entered when you define
the device class for 3590 tape drives.

Also, does the estimated capacity on the define devclass effect the
Estimated Capacity, percent utilized, and pct reclaimable space that you see
with the query volume command?

Thanks for your help...

Re: move data

[Seay, Paul]

YES

-Original Message-
From: Qualls, Ted W {PBSG} [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: move data


I believe that to be correct.

-Original Message-
From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: move data


I can't actually try this since I have processes running so I thought I'd
see if I can get an answer while I'm waiting for access to drives. I have a
tape pool with 2 filling tapes and many full tapes. Can I update the 2
filling tapes to read only and expect that move data will move data from
filling and full tapes to scratch tapes?

What I'm trying to do is move data off the J tapes to K scratch tapes.

Thanks,

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 905-7154

Re: move data

[Qualls, Ted W {PBSG}]

I believe that to be correct.

-Original Message-
From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: move data


I can't actually try this since I have processes running so I thought I'd
see if I can get an answer while I'm waiting for access to drives. I have a
tape pool with 2 filling tapes and many full tapes. Can I update the 2
filling tapes to read only and expect that move data will move data from
filling and full tapes to scratch tapes?

What I'm trying to do is move data off the J tapes to K scratch tapes.

Thanks,

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 905-7154

ESTCAPACITY - 3590 K tapes (extended length)

[Michael, Monte]

We have just converted our 3590J tape cartridges to 3590K tape cartridges
(extended length).  I was curious what most people have entered as an
estimated capacity for these type of tapes.  This is entered when you define
the device class for 3590 tape drives.

Also, does the estimated capacity on the define devclass effect the
Estimated Capacity, percent utilized, and pct reclaimable space that you see
with the query volume command?

Thanks for your help...

move data

[Gill, Geoffrey L.]

I can't actually try this since I have processes running so I thought I'd
see if I can get an answer while I'm waiting for access to drives. I have a
tape pool with 2 filling tapes and many full tapes. Can I update the 2
filling tapes to read only and expect that move data will move data from
filling and full tapes to scratch tapes?

What I'm trying to do is move data off the J tapes to K scratch tapes.

Thanks,

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 905-7154

Re: Question about tape drive utilization and the summary file

[Qualls, Ted W {PBSG}]

Have you tried taking drives 0,1 and 3 offline to see if drive 2 gets a
mount?

-Original Message-
From: David Jelinek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question about tape drive utilization and the summary file


Is the summary file supposed to list all tape mounts for drives online to
TSM? I thought that I would use the summary log to determine tape
utilization. When I pulled the data, I discovered that we have been using
drives 0,1, and 3 but not using drive 2 (not a single mount in a month and a
half according to the summary table). And yes, the drive has been online to
TSM the whole time with no errors reported that I can find. Am I missing
something obvious? We have a 3494 library with 3590 drives.
Thanks in advance.

--
David Jelinek
Systems Programmer
Central Michigan University

Re: TSM Server Sizing

[Mr. Lindsay Morris]

I think it's better to make a rough guess, or even throw a dart, then grow
the system as needed.  I've seen sites spend literally months doing NOTHING
except trying to get the sizing just right.  That's misguided effort.

What you DO need is some way to monitor growth rates, so you can predict
when you'll outgrow this or that piece of the puzzle.

-
Mr. Lindsay Morris
CEO, Servergraph
www.servergraph.com
859-253-8000 ofc
425-988-8478 fax


> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Brenda Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: TSM Server Sizing
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Does anyone have any good tips on sizing a TSM server appropriately?  I do
> have the sizing tool but there is so much manual work in trying
> to populate
> that to get any information, particularly when you don't have
> documentation
> for every environment.  I would welcome some comparisons if you care to
> share.  I will have automated tape libraries at each location
> also, ranging
> from a L180, L700 or Powderhorn.
>
> I have 5 different sites to size:
> 1.) 40 servers - 1.5 tb storage total
> 2.) 50 servers - 1 tb storage total
> 3.) 300 servers - 11 tb. storage
> 4.) 125 servers - 6 tb. storage
> 5.) Moving from Mainframe to Unix - and merging two different backup
> environments into one.
>  TSM on OS/390 - Current occupancy is 18 TB, TSM database = 18gb
>  Upstream - 325 clients
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
>
> Brenda Collins
> Storage Administrator
> ING - Americas Infrastructure Services
> (612) 342-3839  (Phone)
> (612)510-0187  (Pager)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

4.1.0 Server Install on AIX

[Jolliff, Dale]

I'm attempting to setup a TSM server for testing using the 4.1.0 install
media.
I have searched back through the mailing list archives and I see that there
has been mentioned some install issues with 4.1 if /usr has to be expanded.

I'm using an old RS/6000 with limited disk space, and the install does not
indicate any failure, but no log, db or storage files are created, and the
dsmserv.dsk is never created.

I mounted an NFS share to /usr/tivoli and installed again, with the same
results.
(plenty of space, but slow access)
Install.trace still shows insufficient space to create the volumes

Now, unless I'm missing something, I should be able to use dsmfmt to create
the db and log volumes, and the dsmserv.dsk should be created, correct?

I find that dsmfmt will create the volumes, however, a dsmserv.dsk is never
created.

Is this a bug in 4.1 or have I missed a step?

Re: switches for DSMADMC command

[Andrew Raibeck]

In the TSM Administrator's Reference.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




Joe Cascanette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Where can I find more switched for this command??

Thanks

Joe

-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Ike,
I got it to work with some help from Dennis Glover.  He sent me an
example of something that worked.  The big difference was that the -COMMA
option MUST BE LISTED BEFORE THE MACRO option.   So
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  -COMMA MACRO DD:D2works fine but
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  MACRO DD:D2 -COMMA does not!
Matt

Re: database backup problem trigger

[Coviello, Paul]

ok now that I can read the act log without my pc crashing I copied the last
things it recorded and the first thing after a reboot.
one of the more interesting things is that device type DBB disappeared.  I
had to recreate it, also the ANR's you see are many
would any one have any idea on what may have happened?

thanks
Paul

04/01/02 14:15:39 ANR1173E Space reclamation for offsite volume(s) cannot
copy file in storage pool TAPEPOOL: Node W53260A, Type Backup, File space
\\w53260a\c$, File name \PROGRAM FILES\WEBSVR\HTMLASCR\ HTMLA.INF.
04/01/02 14:15:39 ANR1173E Space reclamation for offsite volume(s) cannot
copy file in storage pool TAPEPOOL: Node W53260A, Type Backup, File space
\\w53260a\c$, File name \PROGRAM FILES\WEBSVR\HTMLASCR\ HTMLA2.INF.
04/01/02 14:15:39 ANR1173E Space reclamation for offsite volume(s) cannot
copy file in storage pool TAPEPOOL: Node W53260A, Type Backup, File space
\\w53260a\c$, File name \PROGRAM FILES\WEBSVR\HTMLASCR\ LOG.HTR.
04/01/02 14:15:39 ANR1173E Space reclamation for offsite volume(s) cannot
copy file in storage pool TAPEPOOL: Node W53260A, Type Backup, File space
\\w53260a\c$, File name \PROGRAM FILES\WEBSVR\HTMLASCR\ LOGU.HTR.
04/01/02 14:15:39 ANR1173E Space reclamation for offsite volume(s) cannot
copy file in storage pool TAPEPOOL: Node W53260A, Type Backup, File space
\\w53260a\c$, File name \PROGRAM FILES\WEBSVR\HTMLASCR\ MSG.HTR.
04/01/02 14:15:39 ANR1173E Space reclamation for offsite volume(s) cannot
copy file in storage pool TAPEPOOL: Node W53260A, Type Backup, File space
\\w53260a\c$, File name \PROGRAM FILES\WEBSVR\HTMLASCR\ MSGU.HTR.
04/02/02 11:26:08 ANR7860W Insufficient Space Available for file L8674677.-
LOG. 04/02/02 11:26:08 ANR4429W Unable to Define Recovery Log Volume
L8674677.LOG.
04/02/02 11:26:08 ANR4415I Data Base and Recovery Log Space Expansion
Completed.



> -Original Message-
> From: Alex Paschal [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:09 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: database backup problem trigger
>
> Well, I have seen situations where a full recovery log causes that, and
> I've
> seen situations where I audited a bad volume and all the damaged files
> were
> dumped into the activity log so fast that it stopped logging anything to
> the
> activity log.  I haven't had it happen recently, since I learned to audit
> with quiet=yes, as a matter of fact, but I have started using the dsmulog
> utility to keep my actlog for months, so if that happens again, I can just
> go to the dsmulog files to see what was going on and what might have
> caused
> it.
>
> I also have cron'd processes that log in every 10 and 30 minutes to check
> various stuff and alog them to circular log files, so it's pretty easy to
> see how problem situations, such as those involving the recovery log,
> evolve.
>
> Alex Paschal
> Storage Administrator
> Freightliner, LLC
> (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Coviello, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: database backup problem trigger
>
>
> yes that is right,  it was looking for DBB when I did the query it
> wasn't there!  the manual /scheduled one is using the tapepool or devclass
> offsite.  I recreated a DBB devclass and the DB trigger worked.  of course
> that doesn't explain where it went!
>
> thanks any idea on the other ?
>
>
> Paul
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alex Paschal [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:45 PM
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  Re: database backup problem trigger
> >
> > I assume you're talking about dbbackups instead of restores.
> >
> > If you do a "query dbbackuptrigger" what DEVclass and INCRDEVclass is it
> > set
> > to use?  If you do a "query devclass" do those devclasses exist?  What
> > devclass is your manual dbbackup using?
> >
> > Alex Paschal
> > Storage Administrator
> > Freightliner, LLC
> > (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Coviello, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:29 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: database backup problem trigger
> >
> >
> > HI we had a failure of our TSM server running AIX 4.3.3 and TSM 4.1.3
> >
> > one of the errors we are getting is the following:
> >
> > ANR4570E Database backup/restore terminated - device class DBB not
> defined
> >
> > this is not happening if we do the scheduled one manually.  this is only
> > happening with the database backup trigger.
> >
> >
> > the other problem is we can't query the act log from 11:30 this am to 24
> > hours ago?  nothing in between!
> >
> > any ideas
> >
> >
> > thanks
> > Paul

Re: TSM database maximum recommended size

[Nicholas Cassimatis]

I have 2 "rules" for DB size.

1.  Restore time - if it will take longer than your recovery window on your
TSM server to restore the database, your DB is too big.  A good estimate of
restore time is 50% longer than the backup - 2 hours to backup the
database, 3 hours to restore.  If your maximum outage on your TSM server is
6 hours, and the database backup takes 4 hours, you're cutting it very
close.
2.  Backup media - I don't like spanning my TSM DB backup across 2 pieces
of media.  If you have something small (3570, 3995, 8mm, etc) and it takes
more than 1 volume to backup the database, it's too big.  If you do have to
restore the database, having to find two (or more) pieces of media to do it
can make things more complex that I'd want to deal with.  This is a
personal opinion, based on personal preferences, but it can be a good lever
toward getting better/bigger/more advanced media technology, too.

Nick Cassimatis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Today is the tomorrow of yesterday.

Re: Our log fills up and server crashes

[Richard Foster]

We have both of the suggested scenarios: an Irix server with Irix clients,
and out TDP for R/3 backs up files of up to about 6 GB. So you've given me
plenty to look at.

Thanks for the help so far. Any further comments are welcomed - I'm still
in the dark about why this is happening.

Richard Foster

switches for DSMADMC command

[Joe Cascanette]

Where can I find more switched for this command??

Thanks

Joe

-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Ike,
I got it to work with some help from Dennis Glover.  He sent me an
example of something that worked.  The big difference was that the -COMMA
option MUST BE LISTED BEFORE THE MACRO option.   So
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  -COMMA MACRO DD:D2works fine but
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  MACRO DD:D2 -COMMA does not!
Matt

TCA EXIT rc = 0 on AIX

[Pucky, Todd M.]

TSMers,

I recently started receiving these messages in the dsmerror.log on an AIX
4.3.3 client running TSM client 4.2.0.

04/01/2002 02:13:01 TCA EXIT rc = 0
04/01/2002 03:00:56 TCA EXIT rc = 0
04/01/2002 22:00:31 TCA EXIT rc = 0
04/01/2002 23:42:54 TCA EXIT rc = 0
04/02/2002 01:20:17 TCA EXIT rc = 0
04/02/2002 07:56:04 TCA EXIT rc = 0
04/02/2002 11:21:47 TCA EXIT rc = 0
04/02/2002 13:03:01 TCA EXIT rc = 0

The scheduler service is started and it logs an entry into the dsmsched.log
that it is "Waiting to be contacted by server" , but the backup never runs.
Each day the TSM server lists the backup status as "Missed."  Has anyone
seen this error on AIX?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Todd M. Pucky
The Timken Company
Global Information Systems
Programmer/Analyst
330.471.4583
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: AFS backup

[Brian T. Huntley]

Howdy, Eric...

It depends on which AFS backup client you are using.  If you use the file
backup client, TSM controls the retention of the files just as any other
filesystem.  If you use the volume backups, however, you will need to do
the controls through AFS.

We backed-up our 500GB AFS cell by volume for quite awhile due to the
performance benefits, but found it required an absolutely silly amount of
tape storage to retain backups as far back as we had to go.  So, we made
the shift to file backups, and, although it is MUCH slower than the volume
dumps, we've accepted that limitation to make our tape requirements a bit
more reasonable.  I'd be happy to discuss further, if you are interested.

Oh, also, you really need the AFS manuals to be able to get the full story
on AFS backups through TSM.  There are some sections that directly address
connecting AFS and TSM.

HTH,
-b

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// We are implementing our first AFS backup clients and I'm looking through the
// AFS part of the AIX client manual. It's rather limited.
// The AIX guys say that the AFS client does it's own version control (like
// most of the TDP clients). They thus say that I have to create separate nodes
// on TSM for the AFS backup and these node should be assigned to a policy
// domain containing a copygroup with VEREXIST=1 VERDEL=0 RETEXTRA=0 RETONLY=0
// so that the client can do it's own versioning.
// Since I cannot find any information about policy set recommendations, I
// doubt this very much.
// Can anybody who's using the AFS client shed some light on this? Thanks in
// advance!!!
// Kindest regards,
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Re: domain ?

[Mr. Lindsay Morris]

I recommend using one domain where possible.  I've seen sites that have gone
crazy with domains, making them hard to manage.

I think it's NOT useful to have a OS-specific domains, like one for NT and a
domain for AIX, though I see this done a lot.

It may be useful to have domains for different parts of the business, if you
need to give someone else limited TSM access rights to those nodes.

Another reason for breaking your site up into domains is that some nodes
need different policies than other nodes.   But consider: some FILES on node
X need different policies than other FILES on the same node X.  Use client
option sets or the dsm.opt files to set up these policies (either at the
node level, the file level, or both), not domains.

IMHO, anyway.

-
Mr. Lindsay Morris
CEO, Servergraph
www.servergraph.com
859-253-8000 ofc
425-988-8478 fax


> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL)
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: domain ?
>
>
> Is there any reason why I wouldn't create one huge domain and
> have production, development and QA servers backing up to it?
> What are the pros and cons of 1 domain vs. many?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Joe Wholey
> TGA Distributed Data Services
> Merrill Lynch
> Phone: 212-647-3018
> Page:  888-637-7450
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Re: Our log fills up and server crashes

[Thomas Denier]

> Anyone seen this before?
>
> Our TSM server has crashed 3 nights running with a full log. We started
> with Logmode=Rollforward and 3960 MB log. We tried increasing to 6012 MB,
> which delayed the crash by about 45 mins.
>
> We have DB backup trigger at 60%. But even when the backup ran, we got msg
> "ANR4556W Attention: the database backup operation did not free sufficient
> recovery log space to lower utilization below the database backup trigger.
> The recovery log size may need to be increased." I guess this indicates a
> transaction which is out of control - but I can't identify which TXN it is.
>
> We have now switched to Logmode=normal, but I'm not sure it'll help.
>
> Setup: TSM server 4.2.1.11 running on AIX 4.3.3 plus ML9 and patches.
> Clients on NetWare, Windows, Unix (various flavours), plus TDP for R/3.

We used to see similar problems when we used TDP for Microsoft SQL Server
on one of our client systems. One of the database backups arrived as a
single file with a size of about 15 gigabytes. The arrival of this file
was treated as a single transaction which lasted for hours. Recovery log
space allocated during the transaction was tied up until the transaction
finally ended. I don't know whether TDP for R/3 would be subject to the
same sort of pathalogical behavior.

Question about tape drive utilization and the summary file

[David Jelinek]

Is the summary file supposed to list all tape mounts for drives online to TSM? I 
thought that I would use the summary log to determine tape utilization. When I pulled 
the data, I discovered that we have been using drives 0,1, and 3 but not using drive 2 
(not a single mount in a month and a half according to the summary table). And yes, 
the drive has been online to TSM the whole time with no errors reported that I can 
find. Am I missing something obvious? We have a 3494 library with 3590 drives.
Thanks in advance.

--
David Jelinek
Systems Programmer
Central Michigan University




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Re: client backups

[Elenara Geraldo]

Your system operational with TSM Client v4.2.1, run W2K Server or Advanced Server ?


Elenara.

--

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:20:58
 PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) wrote:
>If it is Unix do kill -9 through crontab.Or say at cmd with out touching
>crontab.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mark Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:53 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: client backups
>
>
>Does anyone know how to stop a backup by a certain time?  I have a situation
>where the backup window is small and I need to make sure the backups are not
>running by 5:15 am so the application can be brought backup for production
>by 5:30 am.  Clients are Windows 2000 TSM v4.2.1 TSM server is v4.1.0 mvs.
>
>Mark Morrison
>770-822-8034
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Technical Specialist IV, Gwinnett County
>Have a great day.
>


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Re: Our log fills up and server crashes

[Alex Paschal]

As Paul said, you've most likely got a long running session or process that
has a transaction pinning the log.  I've got a cron'd script that runs every
10 minutes that logs to an alog.  This is a cirular log that won't grow out
of control even if you never check it.  This helps me figure out what's
causing my pinned recovery log on the rare occassion it happens.  A simple
example is included below.

Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
(503) 745-6850 phone/vmail


!#/usr/bin/ksh

{
   echo "q sess"
   echo "q pr"
   echo "q log"
} | dsmadmc -id=id -pa=password | alog -q -f /path/logname -s 20


-Original Message-
From: Richard Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Our log fills up and server crashes


Anyone seen this before?

Our TSM server has crashed 3 nights running with a full log. We started
with Logmode=Rollforward and 3960 MB log. We tried increasing to 6012 MB,
which delayed the crash by about 45 mins.

We have DB backup trigger at 60%. But even when the backup ran, we got msg
"ANR4556W Attention: the database backup operation did not free sufficient
recovery log space to lower utilization below the database backup trigger.
The recovery log size may need to be increased." I guess this indicates a
transaction which is out of control - but I can't identify which TXN it is.

We have now switched to Logmode=normal, but I'm not sure it'll help.

Setup: TSM server 4.2.1.11 running on AIX 4.3.3 plus ML9 and patches.
Clients on NetWare, Windows, Unix (various flavours), plus TDP for R/3.

Any comments, suggestions, etc received gratefully.

Richard Foster

Re: Our log fills up and server crashes

[Tab Trepagnier]

Richard,

Several years ago we had the same issue.  The fact that your (large) log
fills up tells me that unless you have a *HUGE* TSM system, you might be
having the same issue we had.

In our case, we had an Irix server that served as the hub of a network of
Irix CAD workstations.  Each workstation had a link from its X desktop to
the X desktop of the server.  The server had a link on its X desktop back
to the X desktop of every workstation.

When we launched archives on any workstation or on the CAD server, it would
iteratively follow those links back and forth creating ADSM entries like:
/file
/link1/file
/link2/link1/file
/link1/link2/link1/file
/link2/link1/link2/link1/file
and so forth.
The client did that on every file on every client until the maximum path
length was reached and then it started with the next file!

Because these were fast machines on 100 Mbs links, the phenomenon would
generate hundreds of millions of "files" on every archive and crash the
server before it had time to load a tape and save a DB copy.  At the time
we were running with a log size of just under 5 GB.

With the 3.1.0.7 client, the ARCHSYMLinkasfile option was introduced, and
that fixed the problem, but by then our DB was garbaged up, and still is to
some extent.

Since then we added 50% more clients, and shrunk the log to 4.4 GB, but
because that behavior has not recurred, we haven't had a "log crash" in
over two years.

Hope this helps.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram Corporation






Richard Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 04/03/2002
09:27:19 AM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:  Our log fills up and server crashes


Anyone seen this before?

Our TSM server has crashed 3 nights running with a full log. We started
with Logmode=Rollforward and 3960 MB log. We tried increasing to 6012 MB,
which delayed the crash by about 45 mins.

We have DB backup trigger at 60%. But even when the backup ran, we got msg
"ANR4556W Attention: the database backup operation did not free sufficient
recovery log space to lower utilization below the database backup trigger.
The recovery log size may need to be increased." I guess this indicates a
transaction which is out of control - but I can't identify which TXN it is.

We have now switched to Logmode=normal, but I'm not sure it'll help.

Setup: TSM server 4.2.1.11 running on AIX 4.3.3 plus ML9 and patches.
Clients on NetWare, Windows, Unix (various flavours), plus TDP for R/3.

Any comments, suggestions, etc received gratefully.

Richard Foster

Re: TSM database maximum recommended size

[William F. Colwell]

Joe - my db is pretty big on s/390 --

tsm: NEW_ADSM_SERVER_ON_PORT_1600>q db f=d

  Available Space (MB): 185,400
Assigned Capacity (MB): 185,400
Maximum Extension (MB): 0
Maximum Reduction (MB): 28,396
 Page Size (bytes): 4,096
Total Usable Pages: 47,462,400
Used Pages: 40,125,241
  Pct Util: 84.5
 Max. Pct Util: 84.5
  Physical Volumes: 50
 Buffer Pool Pages: 65,536
 Total Buffer Requests: 100,564,344
Cache Hit Pct.: 96.91
   Cache Wait Pct.: 0.00
   Backup in Progress?: No
Type of Backup In Progress:
  Incrementals Since Last Full: 3
Changed Since Last Backup (MB): 1,641.23
Percentage Changed: 1.05
Last Complete Backup Date/Time: 04/02/2002 15:46:09

The performance is ok I think on hardware the isn't all that fast;
s390 = 9672-ra6 (80 mips, 1 processor)
disk = stk sva 9500
tape = stk 9840 in a powderhrn silo.

I do a full dbb on the weekend, it takes 6 hrs.
I do daily incr dbb's to sms manged disk.
Expiration is the slowest thing, it runs only on Saturday from 5 am to 11 pm;
it takes 3 Saturdays to make a complete pass.

We backup 50- 100 gb a day, mostly small files from enduser desktop machines.

While I am satisfied with all this, the new management has decreed the death
of ibm mainframe computing so I will be moving off to ??? starting in the
next 6 months.  I am interested in the sizing issue like alot of others, but I
don't have any good answers.

--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.



At 12:17 PM 4/3/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Can anyone comment on the DB size on an S390 TSM deployment?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: TSM database maximum recommended size
>
>
>80 GB is in the range of what I think of as "barely manageable" on your
>average midrange Unix computer (IBM H80, Sun E450).  I know folks run
>bigger DBs (somebody's got one in excess of 160GB) but you need
>substantial server hardware and very fast disks.
>
>_
>William Mansfield
>Senior Consultant
>Solution Technology, Inc
>
>
>
>
>
>Scott McCambly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>04/03/2002 11:08 AM
>Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>
>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:
>Subject:TSM database maximum recommended size
>
>
>Hello all,
>
>Our data storage requirements have been driving our TSM database usage to
>new heights, and we are looking for some references to "just how big is
>too
>big" in order to help build a business case for deploying additional
>servers.
>
>Our current TSM database is 86.5GB and although backup and restore
>operations are running fine, database management tasks are becoming
>painfully long.  I personally think this database size is "too big".  What
>are your thoughts?
>How many sites are running with databases this large or larger? On what
>hardware?
>
>IBM/Tivoli's maxiumum size recommendations seem to grow each year with the
>introduction of more powerful hardware platforms, but issues such as
>single
>threaded db backup and restore continue to pose problems to unlimited
>growth.
>
>Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Scott.
>Scott McCambly
>AIX/NetView/ADSM Specialist - Unopsys Inc.  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>(613)799-9269

Re: domain ?

[Kelly J. Lipp]

Pros: much simpler to manage a small number of things.  If you don't have
radically different retention policies or some regulating influence
suggesting separation, a single domain sending information to a single pool
hierarchy is perfectly fine.

Cons: none if the conditions above are met.

In some cases, I like the idea of two domains: one for non-critical systems
and one for critical.  For the critical systems, build your pool hierarchy
with a collocated tape pool for faster restores.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL)
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: domain ?


Is there any reason why I wouldn't create one huge domain and have
production, development and QA servers backing up to it?  What are the pros
and cons of 1 domain vs. many?  Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Joe Wholey
TGA Distributed Data Services
Merrill Lynch
Phone: 212-647-3018
Page:  888-637-7450
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

[MC Matt Cooper (2838)]

Thanks
Matt

-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

select NodeName, sum(cast(cast(trim(substr(message,47,6)) as
decimal(10,3))*case when substr(message,54,2) = 'GB' THEN 1000 when
substr(message,54,2) = 'MB' THEN 1 when substr(message,54,2) = 'By' then
.001 end as decimal(10,0))) as "Megabytes" from actlog where msgno=4961 and
date_time >current_timestamp - 8 hours group by nodename

-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Do you have an example for the proper syntax/usage of using TRIM or CHAR?

-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

Also, if the length of the field is unknown as in a numeric text that you
want to evaluate you can do a TRIM on it to remove the blanks so that you
can convert it to a decimal number.

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


To control the length of character fields you can use:

CHAR(expression,n)
LEFT(exppression,n)
RIGHT(expression,n)
where n is the length of the string you want returned


-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Ike,
I got it to work with some help from Dennis Glover.  He sent me an
example of something that worked.  The big difference was that the -COMMA
option MUST BE LISTED BEFORE THE MACRO option.   So
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  -COMMA MACRO DD:D2works fine but
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  MACRO DD:D2 -COMMA does not!
Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ike Hunley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

Matt,

I have not found a way to get my data on one line either.  I input the data
into REXX code to reformat it the way I want.  What would you like your
output to look like? I could send you a REXX exec.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MC
Matt Cooper (2838)
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS



I have tried everyone's suggestions.  I believe the fact that I have one  AS
statement in the script that it will ignore the attempts of fixing the
output into a 1 line per node output.  The -COMMAdelimited , -TABdelimited,
-OUT didn't work.   I was able to get a 1 line output, with a title line and
some other 'extra' lines of TSM header and msgs.   The only way I seem to
have in controlling this is with the suggestion from Paul, using an AS "
big area  " .   This whole 'programming' area seems to go by a lot of
undocumented rules.  Why don't they document them somewhere?  Or give a
direct reference to which other product doc to look at?   I am able to
directly control the length of a numeric output with 'decimal(xx)'
statement.  What about character output?   I am still disappointed that I
can not seem to get an output that would be nothing more than what I really
want 12 character node name delimiter 4 digit number of days since last
access  delimiter   contact field name of 20 characters,then the next
line  . The best I came up with is as follows.
SCRIPT...

select node_name as "NODE", -
  cast((current_timestamp-lastacc_time)days as decimal(4)) as "DAYS", -
 contact as "   CONTACT  "  from nodes where -
  cast((current_timestamp-lastacc_time)days as decimal) >= 7

OUTPUT FILE .

ADSTAR Distributed Storage Manager

Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 3, Release 1, Level 0.7

(C) Copyright IBM Corporation, 1990, 1999, All Rights Reserved.



ANS8000I Server command: 'select node_name as "NODE",
cast((current_timestamp-


NODEDAYSCONTACT

-- --

AG570  58 Elliott/desktop

DEFIANT  12 R.Schulte, D.Harrison

DSS1OLD343 Connie Brooks

WIN2KAD 34 Karlene Michael

ANS8000I Server command: 'COMMIT'



ANS8002I Highest return code was 0.


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

Re: OS390 server patches

[William F. Colwell]

Yes  I tried to get there just before I replied.  I set an icon up in
Hummingbird to store the id, password & path.  The id and password
used to be in the anr readme member that smp installs into sanrsamp.
If you have a v3 sanrsamp lying around you can find it in there.  for some
reason it was removed from the v4 members.  Or, as someone else said,
get it from support.

Hope this helps,

Bill Colwell

At 10:53 AM 4/3/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Have you actually tried to get there ?
>
>I just did and No Such Directory !
>
>
>Zoltan Forray
>Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807
>
>
>
>
>"William F. Colwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>04/01/2002 12:37 PM
>Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>
>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:
>Subject:Re: OS390 server patches
>
>
>Zoltan, The patches are at
>
>service2.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/server/MVS-OS390
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Bill
>
>At 11:57 AM 4/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>Anyone got a clue where the OS390 TSM server patches have gone ?
>>
>>The link from Tivoli goes to:
>>ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/server/v4r2/MVS-OS390/
>>  but it says it can't find them.
>>
>>Also, my docs say to go to service2.boulder.ibm.com/storage   but there
>>isn't such a directory ?
>>
>>What gives ?
>>
>>
>>Zoltan Forray
>>Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
>>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807
>
>--
>Bill Colwell
>C. S. Draper Lab
>Cambridge Ma.

--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.

Re: TOTAL Data on the Backup System

[Mr. Lindsay Morris]

See "query occupancy", but you'll have to run it through a script to add it
up into one number.
Servergraph/TSM does this daily, and breaks it out by primary/copypool, and
by backups/ archives /HSM data - and also shows you the trend over time for
each of these, so you can see if something's starting to explode.

If you want to write your own script for this, look at
http://www.servergraph.com/techtip.shtml, which should help you get clean
query output.


-
Mr. Lindsay Morris
CEO, Servergraph
www.servergraph.com
859-253-8000 ofc
425-988-8478 fax


> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Pétur Eyþórsson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: TOTAL Data on the Backup System
>
>
> Hi can anyone give me a Select statemnt witch gives the output of all the
> total data on the TSM Backup System.
>
>
>
> Kvedja/Regards
> Petur Eythorsson
> Taeknimadur/Technician
> IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
> Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
> Microsoft Certified System Engineer
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  Nyherji Hf  Simi TEL: +354-569-7700
>  Borgartun 37105 Iceland
>  URL:http://www.nyherji.is
>

Re: TOTAL Data on the Backup System

[Cook, Dwight E]

try 
select sum (total_mb) as "total MB"  from adsm.auditocc
make sure and run an "audit lic" daily to update teh auditocc table...

Dwight E. Cook
Software Application Engineer III
Science Applications International Corporation
509 S. Boston Ave.  Suit 220
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606
Office (918) 732-7109



-Original Message-
From: Pétur Eyþórsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TOTAL Data on the Backup System


Hi can anyone give me a Select statemnt witch gives the output of all the
total data on the TSM Backup System.



Kvedja/Regards
Petur Eythorsson
Taeknimadur/Technician
IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
Microsoft Certified System Engineer

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nyherji Hf  Simi TEL: +354-569-7700
 Borgartun 37105 Iceland
 URL:http://www.nyherji.is

Re: domain ?

[Cook, Dwight E]

IMHO, domains are just there for your use in any sort of logical separation
you wish to perform...
We use them to differ between UNIX-SAP, UNIX-non-SAP, NT, DOMINO, LNOTES,
ADSM (other adsm servers), etc...
That has fit our needs...
If you have different service levels for the different clients, you may want
to use different domains to represent the different service levels...(hot,
warm, cold; gold, silver, bronze; daily, weekly, monthly; etc...)

This is one reason why I like TSM so much, you may customize it to fit your
needs.
it provides for virtually unlimited means to isolate/model/manage your
clients...

Dwight E. Cook
Software Application Engineer III
Science Applications International Corporation
509 S. Boston Ave.  Suit 220
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606
Office (918) 732-7109



-Original Message-
From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: domain ?


Is there any reason why I wouldn't create one huge domain and have
production, development and QA servers backing up to it?  What are the pros
and cons of 1 domain vs. many?  Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Joe Wholey
TGA Distributed Data Services
Merrill Lynch
Phone: 212-647-3018
Page:  888-637-7450
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: domain ?

[Bill Mansfield]

Two good uses of domains:
- to get different default management classes for different nodes
- to delegate policy administration to different administrators for
different nodes.



_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc





"Cook, Dwight E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
04/03/2002 11:37 AM
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: domain ?


IMHO, domains are just there for your use in any sort of logical
separation
you wish to perform...
We use them to differ between UNIX-SAP, UNIX-non-SAP, NT, DOMINO, LNOTES,
ADSM (other adsm servers), etc...
That has fit our needs...
If you have different service levels for the different clients, you may
want
to use different domains to represent the different service levels...(hot,
warm, cold; gold, silver, bronze; daily, weekly, monthly; etc...)

This is one reason why I like TSM so much, you may customize it to fit
your
needs.
it provides for virtually unlimited means to isolate/model/manage your
clients...

Dwight E. Cook
Software Application Engineer III
Science Applications International Corporation
509 S. Boston Ave.  Suit 220
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606
Office (918) 732-7109



-Original Message-
From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: domain ?


Is there any reason why I wouldn't create one huge domain and have
production, development and QA servers backing up to it?  What are the
pros
and cons of 1 domain vs. many?  Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Joe Wholey
TGA Distributed Data Services
Merrill Lynch
Phone: 212-647-3018
Page:  888-637-7450
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: TSM database maximum recommended size

[Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL)]

Can anyone comment on the DB size on an S390 TSM deployment?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM database maximum recommended size


80 GB is in the range of what I think of as "barely manageable" on your
average midrange Unix computer (IBM H80, Sun E450).  I know folks run
bigger DBs (somebody's got one in excess of 160GB) but you need
substantial server hardware and very fast disks.

_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc





Scott McCambly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
04/03/2002 11:08 AM
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:TSM database maximum recommended size


Hello all,

Our data storage requirements have been driving our TSM database usage to
new heights, and we are looking for some references to "just how big is
too
big" in order to help build a business case for deploying additional
servers.

Our current TSM database is 86.5GB and although backup and restore
operations are running fine, database management tasks are becoming
painfully long.  I personally think this database size is "too big".  What
are your thoughts?
How many sites are running with databases this large or larger? On what
hardware?

IBM/Tivoli's maxiumum size recommendations seem to grow each year with the
introduction of more powerful hardware platforms, but issues such as
single
threaded db backup and restore continue to pose problems to unlimited
growth.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Scott.
Scott McCambly
AIX/NetView/ADSM Specialist - Unopsys Inc.  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
(613)799-9269

TOTAL Data on the Backup System

[Pétur Eyþórsson]

Hi can anyone give me a Select statemnt witch gives the output of all the
total data on the TSM Backup System.



Kvedja/Regards
Petur Eythorsson
Taeknimadur/Technician
IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
Microsoft Certified System Engineer

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nyherji Hf  Simi TEL: +354-569-7700
 Borgartun 37105 Iceland
 URL:http://www.nyherji.is

Re: TSM Server Sizing

[Cook, Dwight E]

A lot will depend on the network connectivity and the ability of the
clients...
We have a lot of TSM servers, 9 of 10 are RS6000 7071-S70's
Some have around 100 clients run 300+ concurrent session but only push 20-30
GB/hr (compressed client data) due to client and network limitations
Some have 30 clients run < 100 concurrent sessions (actually 30 can flood a
100 Mb/sec link) and run 40-ish GB/hr for 18-20 hours at a time...(oh,
compressed client data)
In one case where we have a GB link to some clients, a single E10K will push
56 GB/hr with 30-ish sessions (compressed client data and we see about a
just under 4/1 compression so that is about 200 GB/hr of client file space)
and we may or may not have the 100 Mb/sec interface running at 40-ish GB/hr
(compressed client data)
Last I checked the S70's run about 30-50% util (still lots of power left)
I haven't checked lately on the one S70 that may take in 100-ish
GB/hr across a GB & 100 Mb/sec links...
but I do know there haven't been any "high utilization alerts"...
Oh, we do front end all our environments with large diskpools...
large enough to hold one day's worth of client traffic.


Dwight E. Cook
Software Application Engineer III
Science Applications International Corporation
509 S. Boston Ave.  Suit 220
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606
Office (918) 732-7109



-Original Message-
From: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Server Sizing


Hi!

Does anyone have any good tips on sizing a TSM server appropriately?  I do
have the sizing tool but there is so much manual work in trying to populate
that to get any information, particularly when you don't have documentation
for every environment.  I would welcome some comparisons if you care to
share.  I will have automated tape libraries at each location also, ranging
from a L180, L700 or Powderhorn.

I have 5 different sites to size:
1.) 40 servers - 1.5 tb storage total
2.) 50 servers - 1 tb storage total
3.) 300 servers - 11 tb. storage
4.) 125 servers - 6 tb. storage
5.) Moving from Mainframe to Unix - and merging two different backup
environments into one.
 TSM on OS/390 - Current occupancy is 18 TB, TSM database = 18gb
 Upstream - 325 clients

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

Brenda Collins
Storage Administrator
ING - Americas Infrastructure Services
(612) 342-3839  (Phone)
(612)510-0187  (Pager)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

clean archive

[Joni Moyer]

Hi!  I was given the following command to clean archive directories.  I was
wondering if it is possible to have a list of nodes in the command?  It
appears by this syntax that you can have a list of nodes separated by
commas, yet when I issued the command it would not run.  Any suggestions?

CLEAN ARCHDIRectories:  starts duplicate archive directory re-
  moval for all nodes or a list of nodes, or resumes a cleanup
  job that was canceled.

   CLEAN ARCHDIRectories ---
  | |  |
  +-nodeList+  +-FIX=No|Yes-
  | |
  +-JOBid=jobId-+

  where:
nodeList is a comma separated list of node names
jobId is a resumable cleanup job
if nodeList or JOBid= are not specified, a new job that
  cleans all nodes is assumed
FIX=no   every archive directory entry for the nodeList or
 all nodes will be displayed.  This is the default.
   =yes  duplicate directories will be removed



Joni Moyer
Associate Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338

Re: Task Priority

[Justin Derrick]

Look up the 'nopreempt' -- TSM Admin Reference for 4.1 - Page 1324.  (In
Appendix B - Tailoring Server Options if you're not using 4.1.)

-JD.

>Hi!
>
>I was just wondering if anyone knows the order of priority for TSM tasks.
>I had several backup jobs terminate and the message said they were
>preempted by a higher priority job but didn't state what that was. So is
>there a certain priority level for backup storage pools, backup clients,
>migration, reclamation, etc.?  Thanks
>
>Joni Moyer
>Associate Systems Programmer
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(717)975-8338

Re: Our log fills up and server crashes

[Richard Foster]

> Are you running expiration
No, we cancel expiration several hours before the crash.

> or do you have a client that is taking forever to backup?
Maybe - I don't keep a strict count. I can take a look.

> This was discussed at length at Share in Nashville.
Is there a web site or such that I could look at for tips?

Richard Foster

Re: TSM database maximum recommended size

[Bill Mansfield]

80 GB is in the range of what I think of as "barely manageable" on your
average midrange Unix computer (IBM H80, Sun E450).  I know folks run
bigger DBs (somebody's got one in excess of 160GB) but you need
substantial server hardware and very fast disks.

_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc





Scott McCambly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hello all,

Our data storage requirements have been driving our TSM database usage to
new heights, and we are looking for some references to "just how big is
too
big" in order to help build a business case for deploying additional
servers.

Our current TSM database is 86.5GB and although backup and restore
operations are running fine, database management tasks are becoming
painfully long.  I personally think this database size is "too big".  What
are your thoughts?
How many sites are running with databases this large or larger? On what
hardware?

IBM/Tivoli's maxiumum size recommendations seem to grow each year with the
introduction of more powerful hardware platforms, but issues such as
single
threaded db backup and restore continue to pose problems to unlimited
growth.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Scott.
Scott McCambly
AIX/NetView/ADSM Specialist - Unopsys Inc.  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
(613)799-9269

domain ?

[Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL)]

Is there any reason why I wouldn't create one huge domain and have production, 
development and QA servers backing up to it?  What are the pros and cons of 1 domain 
vs. many?  Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Joe Wholey
TGA Distributed Data Services
Merrill Lynch
Phone: 212-647-3018
Page:  888-637-7450
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TSM database maximum recommended size

[Scott McCambly]

Hello all,

Our data storage requirements have been driving our TSM database usage to
new heights, and we are looking for some references to "just how big is too
big" in order to help build a business case for deploying additional servers.

Our current TSM database is 86.5GB and although backup and restore
operations are running fine, database management tasks are becoming
painfully long.  I personally think this database size is "too big".  What
are your thoughts?
How many sites are running with databases this large or larger? On what
hardware?

IBM/Tivoli's maxiumum size recommendations seem to grow each year with the
introduction of more powerful hardware platforms, but issues such as single
threaded db backup and restore continue to pose problems to unlimited growth.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Scott.
Scott McCambly
AIX/NetView/ADSM Specialist - Unopsys Inc.  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
(613)799-9269

TSM Server Sizing

[Brenda Collins]

Hi!

Does anyone have any good tips on sizing a TSM server appropriately?  I do
have the sizing tool but there is so much manual work in trying to populate
that to get any information, particularly when you don't have documentation
for every environment.  I would welcome some comparisons if you care to
share.  I will have automated tape libraries at each location also, ranging
from a L180, L700 or Powderhorn.

I have 5 different sites to size:
1.) 40 servers - 1.5 tb storage total
2.) 50 servers - 1 tb storage total
3.) 300 servers - 11 tb. storage
4.) 125 servers - 6 tb. storage
5.) Moving from Mainframe to Unix - and merging two different backup
environments into one.
 TSM on OS/390 - Current occupancy is 18 TB, TSM database = 18gb
 Upstream - 325 clients

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

Brenda Collins
Storage Administrator
ING - Americas Infrastructure Services
(612) 342-3839  (Phone)
(612)510-0187  (Pager)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Library

[Keith Gourd]

I have a 3583 library connected through SCSI to a 4500R IBM server. I
recently updated the firmware (22U0 on the drives and V2_72_12.lif)  on
the drives and the library. When I finished the library would not accept
commands. I can query the drives and they are on-line and I can query the
library. Does anyone have any suggestion on what the problem could be? TSM
only sees two of my 6 drives, I have checked my connections.

Thanks,

Re: ADSM server restore

[Kauffman, Tom]

This would work, but it will require TSM to be shut down for the duration of
step 1 daily.

What you really need for TSM recovery at D/R:

1) installable system image of your AIX box. We use mksysb, run roughly
monthly or after AIX software upgrades.
2) filesystem layout of the TSM volume group (this should NOT be in the AIX
rootvg!) Our technique is to use savevg (IBM AIX utility) to save the
metadata for the TSM volume group, but exclude the data; this gets saved to
/DR/backup.adsmvg and is picked up by the mksysb used for step 1.
3) current TSM device config file and volume history file. We run this to a
floppy with doswrite at the end of our nightly backup process.
4) current TSM database backup. We run this nightly as the very last step in
copying our data for off-site storage.

To recover:

1) Boot/install from the mksysb (or sysback, if you go that way) and recover
your AIX environment
2) Restvg from /DR/adsmvg.backup; this will recreate the empty tsm
filesystems.
3) copy the device config and volume history files from the floppy to the
proper locations in the AIX system (where your dsmserv.opt says they belong)
4) edit the device config file to match the local environment (we used to go
from an STK 9710 library called 'wolf' with 9 DLT tape drives at home to a
manual library called 'wolf' with 6 DLT tape drives at the hot site)
5) Not really required with current versions, but not a bad idea -- run
dsmfmt to format your log and database files.
6) Restore the TSM database. dsmserv restore db devc=
vol= commit=yes (We strap the floppy to the database
backup daily, and this process assumes no volhist recovery, just to be on
the safe side)
7) Start TSM. Make the same library/device changes you made in the device
config file. Mark all readw/reado tapes as 'unavailable'; mark all offsite
tapes as 'readonly'.
8) As time permits, dsmfmt and install the rest of your TSM disk pools and
modify your schedules to match the D/R hotsite reality.

We've done this twice a year now for six years with no problems whatever;
feel free to contact me if you have additional questions.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruno Bossier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ADSM server restore
>
>
> I'm currently creating a disaster recovery procedure for an
> AIX server.
> ADSM is used for backups. I have no experience at all with
> ADSM, so this is
> what I have in mind on how to restore the data as quickly as
> possible :
>
> 1. Have a daily backup available via tar or any other
> standard tool of the
> filesystem holding the ADSM binaries and database after all
> backups are
> finished.
> 2. Restore this backup at the DR site.
> 3. Delete all robot and drive configuration and configure all
> robot and
> drives which are available at the DR site. Make also sure that all
> necessary entries in /etc/services or /etc/inetd.conf are added.
> 4. Start restore of data
>
> This works when using Veritas Netbackup, so I was wondering if someone
> already tried this procedure with ADSM or can give me some feedback.
>
> Please reply to me individually at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks,
> Bruno
>

Re: client backups

[LeBlanc, Patricia]

If you don't care if they are complete, you can schedule a job to cancel all
sessions.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: client backups


Does anyone know how to stop a backup by a certain time?  I have a situation
where the backup window is small and I need to make sure the backups are not
running by 5:15 am so the application can be brought backup for production
by 5:30 am.  Clients are Windows 2000 TSM v4.2.1 TSM server is v4.1.0 mvs.

Mark Morrison
770-822-8034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technical Specialist IV, Gwinnett County
Have a great day.

Re: OS390 server patches

[Sam Sheppard]

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>>--> 04-03-02  07:56  S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Re: OS390 server patches

The link is:

ftp://userid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/storage/tivoli-
storage-management/patches/server/MVS-OS390

You need to get the userid/password from Tivoli support.

Sam Sheppard
San Diego Data Processing Corp.
(858)-581-9668
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:53:40 -0500
From: "Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS390 server patches
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_Top_of_Message_

Have you actually tried to get there ?

I just did and No Such Directory !

Zoltan Forray
Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807




"William F. Colwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Zoltan, The patches are at

service2.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/server/MVS-OS
390

Hope this helps,

Bill

At 11:57 AM 4/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Anyone got a clue where the OS390 TSM server patches have gone ?
>
>The link from Tivoli goes to:
>ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/ser
ver/v4r2/MVS-OS390/
>  but it says it can't find them.
>
>Also, my docs say to go to service2.boulder.ibm.com/storage   but there
>isn't such a directory ?
>
>What gives ?
>
>Zoltan Forray
>Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807

--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.

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Re: client backups

[PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI)]

If it is Unix do kill -9 through crontab.Or say at cmd with out touching
crontab.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: client backups


Does anyone know how to stop a backup by a certain time?  I have a situation
where the backup window is small and I need to make sure the backups are not
running by 5:15 am so the application can be brought backup for production
by 5:30 am.  Clients are Windows 2000 TSM v4.2.1 TSM server is v4.1.0 mvs.

Mark Morrison
770-822-8034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technical Specialist IV, Gwinnett County
Have a great day.

Re: OS390 server patches

[Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU]

Have you actually tried to get there ?

I just did and No Such Directory !


Zoltan Forray
Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807




"William F. Colwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Zoltan, The patches are at

service2.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/server/MVS-OS390

Hope this helps,

Bill

At 11:57 AM 4/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Anyone got a clue where the OS390 TSM server patches have gone ?
>
>The link from Tivoli goes to:
>ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/server/v4r2/MVS-OS390/
>  but it says it can't find them.
>
>Also, my docs say to go to service2.boulder.ibm.com/storage   but there
>isn't such a directory ?
>
>What gives ?
>
>
>Zoltan Forray
>Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807

--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.

Task Priority

[Joni Moyer]

Hi!

I was just wondering if anyone knows the order of priority for TSM tasks.
I had several backup jobs terminate and the message said they were
preempted by a higher priority job but didn't state what that was. So is
there a certain priority level for backup storage pools, backup clients,
migration, reclamation, etc.?  Thanks

Joni Moyer
Associate Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338

cmd file with Netware

[Jim Kirkman]

Anyone out there using a action=macro schedule event and pointing to a
bat or cmd file on a Netware box? I need to back up a portion of a
server at a time different from the regular scheduled incremental. This
'looks' like the way to do this, but TSM and Netware have been known to
do some funny things so I thought I'd fish for opinions on this
approach.

I would hope I can load dsmc then run an incr of the desired directory
structure from within the cmd file.

thanks,
--
Jim Kirkman
AIS - Systems
UNC-Chapel Hill
966-5884

client backups

[Mark Morrison]

Does anyone know how to stop a backup by a certain time?  I have a situation where the 
backup window is small and I need to make sure the backups are not running by 5:15 am 
so the application can be brought backup for production by 5:30 am.  Clients are 
Windows 2000 TSM v4.2.1 TSM server is v4.1.0 mvs. 

Mark Morrison
770-822-8034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technical Specialist IV, Gwinnett County
Have a great day. 

Re: Technical comparisons

[Brenda Collins]

I agree with you!   I just recommended the article because it is one of the
few I have seen recently.





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I regard Stan Zaffos as one of the few industry analyst with credibility in
this area.  I disagree with his assessment on a technical basis between
Veritas and TSM, but considering the way the quadrants are laid out and the
issues that Stan and I have discussed in the past, I know why TSM is ranked
slightly lower than NetBackup.  It has to do with market share and
marketing
prowess.  A lot of what the industry analyst use as a barometer is market
share.  Fortunately, Stan is less influenced by this than most.

The reality is Veritas is a household word and Tivoli is not.  Tivoli is
IBM.  Industry analyst have no job if they always recommend IBM.  IBM is
held to a different bar of support, integrity, and reliablity than the
competitors so any ranking is automatically hit with a 10% IBM tax.
Tivoli/IBM will always lag on niche functionality that are hot buttons of
some technician.  In the open systems world, non-IBM customers do not want
IBM because they are afraid that IBM will come in and take over.  It is a
trust factor.  This is why Tivoli is engaging business partners to do most
of their sales.  It is a hand holding experience that the customer feels
comfortable with.

But, things are changing quickly.  Tivoli is displacing NetBackup at quite
a
clip now in the large enterprises.  Tivoli's commitment to the Windows
platform is excellent and their functionality development is the strongest
in that area.  That will get them attention and market share.  Let's face
it
if every one runs a product on Windows and it is very successful, they will
choose it for their other environments.  Watch out Roseville, the Tivoli
roller is coming.

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From: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:41 AM
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Try this..

www.gartner.com/reprints/ibm/103494.html

It doesn't reflect any price comparisons though.





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Does anyone have a link to some detailed "white paper" sort of comparisons
between TSM and the leading competitors in storage management?

I have a customer specifically asking for comparisons between Veritas and
Tivoli - and the most recent google search turned up several marketing
pieces from Veritas and one Gartner comparison on old versions of ADSM/TSM
(version 3.x)..

Surely someone else has already invented this wheel?

Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Andrew Raibeck]

Before trying MEMORYEFFICIENTBACKUP, I would try the 4.2.1.30 Windows 
client, which includes a fix for IC32379. IC32379 is known to cause 
"program memory exhausted" errors.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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Hi Tor,

if problem with memory overflow appears at start of backup, so I think I
know what is your problem ... I have similar one on AIX client which backs
up tons of files through NFS. Try to include parameter 
MEMORYEFFICIENBACKUP
YES into your dsm.opt file (or check this switch through client GUI Edit -
Preferences - Backup - Use less memory). TSM client tried to load all
directory structure to memory at start of backup by default. If you use
MEMORYEFFICIENBACKUP switch, client do it by simple directories. I suggest
it because of your note about large amount of files. Perhaps it helps.

Wiht best regards
Tom

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Rysstad - Tor Arne
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:45 PM
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Hi Eric, Wanda, Arshad and the rest of the world!

The Win2000 server has plenty of RAM and CPU! Tons and tons.. It's just a
fileserver, the only thing particular is that it contains a large amount 
of
small files.. Most of my users are programmers..

1. Is client-version dependent of server version? Can I safely upgrade my
win2000 server without having to change anything on the ADSM server?

2. If I upgrade, can I restore with a lower version-number (older) client?

Thank you very much !!!

Regards from Oslo, Norway,
Tor Rysstad

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From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:28 PM
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Duh.  Yeah, too early for me this morning!
Sorry, I meant 4.2.1.20.

Thanks Eric!

-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:22 AM
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Hi Wanda!
I guess you meant upgrading to 4.2.1.20?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 14:10
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I have seen that happen occasionally on our Win2K machines running the 
4.1.3
clients (although here it was every few days, not every 10 minutes)...
You can try upgrading to the 4.1.2.20 client, that fixed a lot of misc.
problems for me on Win2K machines, including the "program memory 
exhausted"
messages.
Unless this machine really IS very short on memory...


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:13 AM
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Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server 
playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of 
what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/su

Re: dsmadmc displaymode

[John O Neall]

I only have the 4.1 doc and the list option is not included there.  Are you
sure it is in 4.2?

In any case, thanks.  John

Andrew Raibeck wrote:

> I have TSM server version 4.2.1.12, and the help section ends in a
> complete sentence:
>
> 
> Besides the options listed here, you can also specify any option that is
> in
> the client options file. Each option must be preceded with a hyphen and
> delimited with a space.
>
> tsm: STORMAN_SERVER1>
> 
>
> Also, the dsmadmc options are documented in the Administrator's Reference.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
> Michael Bartl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 04/03/2002 04:23
> Please respond to michael.bartl
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
> Subject:Re: dsmadmc displaymode
>
> John,
> you can get information on the displaymode-option from dsmadmc help 10
> (Using Administrative Client Options). It's just a bit strange, dsmadmc
> ends this help section just within one sentence - we will never find out
> how it ends...
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
> tsm: >help 10
> Using Administrative Client Options
>
> 
>
> Using Administrative Client Options
>
> In all administrative client modes, the administrative client options
> modify
> your administrative client session responses.
>
> The following administrative client options can be specified with the
> DSMADMC command and are valid from an administrative client session
> only:
>
> -DISPLaymode=LISt or TABle
>  Allows you to force the QUERY output to tabular or list format
>  regardless of the command line window column width.
>
>  If you want the output to go to a file and you are using the
>  -DISPLaymode option, use redirection to write to the file. Do not
> use
>  the -OUTfile option.
>
> -ID=userid
>  Specifies the administrator's user ID.
>
> -PAssword=password
>  Specifies the administrator's password.
>
> -NOConfirm
>  Specifies that you do not want TSM to request confirmation before
>  processing commands that affect the availability of the server or
> data
>  managed by the server.
>
> -Quiet
>  Specifies that TSM does not display standard output messages to
> your
>  screen. However, when you use this option, certain error messages
> still
>  appear.
>
> -CONsolemode
>  Specifies that TSM runs in console mode. All unsolicited server
> console
>  output is echoed to your screen.
>
> -MOUNTmode
>  Specifies that TSM runs in mount mode. All server removable-media
> mount
>  messages are echoed to your scre en.
>
> -Itemcommit
>  Specifies that TSM commits commands inside a script or a macro as
> each
>  command is processed.
>
> -OUTfile=filename
>  Specifies that output from a server query is redirected to a
> specified
>  file. In batch mode, output is redirected to a file you specify and
> the
>  format of the output matches the format of the output on your
> screen.
>
>  In interactive, console, or mount mode sessions, output displays on
>  your screen.
>
> -OUTfile
>  Specifies that output from a server query is formatted one line per
>  query. This option is available in batch mode only.
>
> -COMMAdelimited
>  Specifies that any tabular output from a server query is to be
>  formatted as comma-separated strings rather than in readable
> format.
>  This option is intended to be used primarily when redirecting the
>  output of an SQL query (SELECT command). The comma-separated value
>  format is a standard data format which can be processed by many
> common
>  programs, including spreadsheets, data bases, and report
> generators.
>
> -TABdelimited
>  Specifies that any tabular output from a server query is to be
>  formatted as tab-separated strings rather than in readable format.
> This
>  option is intended to be used primarily when redirecting the output
> of
>  an SQL query (SELECT command). The tab-separated value format is a
>  standard data format which can be processed by many common
> programs,
>  including spreadsheets, databases, and report generators.
>
> Besides the options listed here, you can also specify any option that is
> in
> the client options file. Each option must be preceded with a hyphen and
>
> tsm: >
>
> John O Neall wrote:
> >
> > Where is the doc on the dsmadmc "displaymode" option?
> >
> > Why is there neither a man nor a -h option on this command?  I know it
> > runs on more than Unix, but still...
> >
> > Thanks in advance -- John
> >
> > --
> > ___

Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Tomás Hrouda]

Hi Tor,

if problem with memory overflow appears at start of backup, so I think I
know what is your problem ... I have similar one on AIX client which backs
up tons of files through NFS. Try to include parameter MEMORYEFFICIENBACKUP
YES into your dsm.opt file (or check this switch through client GUI Edit -
Preferences - Backup - Use less memory). TSM client tried to load all
directory structure to memory at start of backup by default. If you use
MEMORYEFFICIENBACKUP switch, client do it by simple directories. I suggest
it because of your note about large amount of files. Perhaps it helps.

Wiht best regards
Tom

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Rysstad - Tor Arne
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric, Wanda, Arshad and the rest of the world!

The Win2000 server has plenty of RAM and CPU! Tons and tons.. It's just a
fileserver, the only thing particular is that it contains a large amount of
small files.. Most of my users are programmers..

1. Is client-version dependent of server version? Can I safely upgrade my
win2000 server without having to change anything on the ADSM server?

2. If I upgrade, can I restore with a lower version-number (older) client?

Thank you very much !!!

Regards from Oslo, Norway,
Tor Rysstad

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Duh.  Yeah, too early for me this morning!
Sorry, I meant 4.2.1.20.

Thanks Eric!

-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Wanda!
I guess you meant upgrading to 4.2.1.20?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 14:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


I have seen that happen occasionally on our Win2K machines running the 4.1.3
clients (although here it was every few days, not every 10 minutes)...
You can try upgrading to the 4.1.2.20 client, that fixed a lot of misc.
problems for me on Win2K machines, including the "program memory exhausted"
messages.
Unless this machine really IS very short on memory...


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support
  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor!
Are there any messages related to the stop in the dsmsched.log or the
dsmerror.log?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hello everybody!

First of all

Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Rysstad - Tor Arne]

Hi Tom!

Thank you very much! I'll try that. But would MEMORYEFFICIENBACKUP make any difference 
when the TSM client is just sitting there, without backing up anything?

Man, am I looking forward to check out the log-files tomorrow!!

--Tor Rysstad

-Original Message-
From: Tomás Hrouda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor,

if problem with memory overflow appears at start of backup, so I think I
know what is your problem ... I have similar one on AIX client which backs
up tons of files through NFS. Try to include parameter MEMORYEFFICIENBACKUP
YES into your dsm.opt file (or check this switch through client GUI Edit -
Preferences - Backup - Use less memory). TSM client tried to load all
directory structure to memory at start of backup by default. If you use
MEMORYEFFICIENBACKUP switch, client do it by simple directories. I suggest
it because of your note about large amount of files. Perhaps it helps.

Wiht best regards
Tom

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Rysstad - Tor Arne
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric, Wanda, Arshad and the rest of the world!

The Win2000 server has plenty of RAM and CPU! Tons and tons.. It's just a
fileserver, the only thing particular is that it contains a large amount of
small files.. Most of my users are programmers..

1. Is client-version dependent of server version? Can I safely upgrade my
win2000 server without having to change anything on the ADSM server?

2. If I upgrade, can I restore with a lower version-number (older) client?

Thank you very much !!!

Regards from Oslo, Norway,
Tor Rysstad

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Duh.  Yeah, too early for me this morning!
Sorry, I meant 4.2.1.20.

Thanks Eric!

-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Wanda!
I guess you meant upgrading to 4.2.1.20?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 14:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


I have seen that happen occasionally on our Win2K machines running the 4.1.3
clients (although here it was every few days, not every 10 minutes)...
You can try upgrading to the 4.1.2.20 client, that fixed a lot of misc.
problems for me on Win2K machines, including the "program memory exhausted"
messages.
Unless this machine really IS very short on memory...


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support
  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent

Re: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.

[Justin Derrick]

Um, why would you need the key?

Your question is a little too vague to answer properly.

The key is only needed for two steps: encryption, and decryption (ie
backup, then restore).  Every other operation the TSM server does (store,
copy, move, collocate, expire) is done with the encrypted files.  The TSM
server doesn't care what the contents of the file are, it just moves the
files around according to the policies that have been defined.

Like I said previously -- this opens up the entire issue of a key
repository -- if a user misplaces, forgets, or the key files on the
individuals PC are destroyed, the data is *gone*.  How do you back up key
files when you don't trust your offsite storage to keep your data private?
(Possible answer:  back up your key files and send them to a different
storage company.)  But key management is another problem entirely.

-JD.

-JD.


>thanks you all for your answers.
>
>But i just want to make one thing sure.
>
>I still need the Encryption key for the Backup Sets if i back up the client
>with Encryption?
>
>
>Kvedja/Regards
>Petur Eythorsson
>Taeknimadur/Technician
>IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
>Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
>Microsoft Certified System Engineer
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Nyherji Hf  Simi TEL: +354-569-7700
> Borgartun 37105 Iceland
> URL:http://www.nyherji.is
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Andrew Raibeck
>Sent: 2. apríl 2002 15:45
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.
>
>
>There is no additional encryption performed by the TSM server. The
>encrypted data sent by the client remains, of course, encrypted when it is
>copied to a copy storage pool or backup set (or anywhere else in the TSM
>hierarchy).
>
>Files that were encrypted when they were backed up can not be restored
>without the encryption key. The encryption key is not stored on the TSM
>server. Therefore, someone intercepting the TSM server database and
>storage pool volumes could not restore the data without the encryption key
>(unless they can hack it, but then any encryption scheme is subject to
>hacking).
>
>Except for TSM client encryption, there are no other TSM-enabled means of
>encrypting the data.
>
>Regards,
>
>Andy
>
>Andy Raibeck
>IBM Software Group
>Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
>Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
>Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
>The command line is your friend.
>"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
>
>
>
>Pétur Eyþórsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>04/02/2002 07:57
>Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>
>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:
>Subject:RE: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in
>TSM.
>
>
>
>My question was conserning 2 things.
>
>
>If you use Encryption. Cant people who get a hold of the TSM Database and
>the Copy Storage Pools, restore the data, whether the data was back up
>with
>Encrytpion or not?
>
>If you make a bakup set from the data back up. is ther Encryption on that
>data? if not is ther posible to make the backup sets more secure?
>
>
>I have read about Encryption, witch sais that the data is Encrypted before
>the data is sent on the TSM Server. i haven´t read anything about
>Encrytpion
>on the acctual TSM server data, whether the data uses encryption there or
>not. It does not matter if the data is Encrypted on the way to the TSM, it
>only matters if i can secure the data offsite? And i havent read anything
>about that in TSM only about Encryption in TSM for clients.
>
>
>Kvedja/Regards
>Petur Eythorsson
>Taeknimadur/Technician
>IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
>Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
>Microsoft Certified System Engineer
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Nyherji Hf  Simi TEL: +354-569-7700
> Borgartun 37105 Iceland
> URL:http://www.nyherji.is
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Martin, Jon R.
>Sent: 2. apríl 2002 14:36
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: don´t aynone know anything about Encryption in TSM.
>
>
>In Petur's defense, I think he is trying to say he could not find anywhere
>that specifically said "data in a Seq. Access Storage Pool, that goes
>offsite will be encrypted."  I can't see where he says he read a document
>that says it is not encrypted.
>
>Jon
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jack Magill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:10 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: =?8859_1?B?ZG9utHQg?=aynone know anything about Encryption
>in TSM.
>
>
>Hi, I was just wondering where you found the information stating that the
>data was only protected on the way to the server, but not on the server.
>Encryption is done by 

Re: ADSM server restore

[Justin Derrick]

Hi Bruno...

A few things...

1)  Upgrade immediately, if not sooner.  ADSM (version 3.1) is very old and
is unsupported, and if you encounter problems, you'll need to call on a
highly paid consultant who remembers all the sillyness that came along with
3.1.  If you're running 3.7 or higher (when it was renamed to TSM) and
called it ADSM out of habit, you can optionally skip this step.  *grin*

2)  Deleting and reconfiguring drive and libraries at the operating system
level is fine -- but don't forget that you need to redefine the drives and
libraries inside ADSM to match the new reality you just created.

3)  Your step 4 needs about 10 additional steps as ADSM restores never seem
to go as smoothly as you'd like.  One hint though...  If you halt ADSM when
you're performing your filesystem backups, and your database and log
filesystems (as well as any disk storagepools you have) are files in a JFS
filesystem, you can usually get away with having your tar or in AIX's case,
mksysb back up the files, and restore them on your new system without too
much trouble.  However, you still need to redefine drives inside TSM as per
my note above.

Good luck, and the only thing I can really recommend is testing your
restore until you get it right, at least twice!

-JD.


>I'm currently creating a disaster recovery procedure for an AIX server.
>ADSM is used for backups. I have no experience at all with ADSM, so this is
>what I have in mind on how to restore the data as quickly as possible :
>
>1. Have a daily backup available via tar or any other standard tool of the
>filesystem holding the ADSM binaries and database after all backups are
>finished.
>2. Restore this backup at the DR site.
>3. Delete all robot and drive configuration and configure all robot and
>drives which are available at the DR site. Make also sure that all
>necessary entries in /etc/services or /etc/inetd.conf are added.
>4. Start restore of data
>
>This works when using Veritas Netbackup, so I was wondering if someone
>already tried this procedure with ADSM or can give me some feedback.
>
>Please reply to me individually at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Thanks,
>Bruno

Re: Our log fills up and server crashes

[Seay, Paul]

You have something pinning the log.  Are you running expiration or do you
have a client that is taking forever to backup?  Typically, it is a client
on a very slow link that has a bad TSM configuration.  If it is the client
problem you have to reduce the transaction size parameters so that you get
commits more often.

This was discussed at length at Share in Nashville.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Our log fills up and server crashes


Anyone seen this before?

Our TSM server has crashed 3 nights running with a full log. We started with
Logmode=Rollforward and 3960 MB log. We tried increasing to 6012 MB, which
delayed the crash by about 45 mins.

We have DB backup trigger at 60%. But even when the backup ran, we got msg
"ANR4556W Attention: the database backup operation did not free sufficient
recovery log space to lower utilization below the database backup trigger.
The recovery log size may need to be increased." I guess this indicates a
transaction which is out of control - but I can't identify which TXN it is.

We have now switched to Logmode=normal, but I'm not sure it'll help.

Setup: TSM server 4.2.1.11 running on AIX 4.3.3 plus ML9 and patches.
Clients on NetWare, Windows, Unix (various flavours), plus TDP for R/3.

Any comments, suggestions, etc received gratefully.

Richard Foster

Re: Technical comparisons

[Seay, Paul]

I regard Stan Zaffos as one of the few industry analyst with credibility in
this area.  I disagree with his assessment on a technical basis between
Veritas and TSM, but considering the way the quadrants are laid out and the
issues that Stan and I have discussed in the past, I know why TSM is ranked
slightly lower than NetBackup.  It has to do with market share and marketing
prowess.  A lot of what the industry analyst use as a barometer is market
share.  Fortunately, Stan is less influenced by this than most.

The reality is Veritas is a household word and Tivoli is not.  Tivoli is
IBM.  Industry analyst have no job if they always recommend IBM.  IBM is
held to a different bar of support, integrity, and reliablity than the
competitors so any ranking is automatically hit with a 10% IBM tax.
Tivoli/IBM will always lag on niche functionality that are hot buttons of
some technician.  In the open systems world, non-IBM customers do not want
IBM because they are afraid that IBM will come in and take over.  It is a
trust factor.  This is why Tivoli is engaging business partners to do most
of their sales.  It is a hand holding experience that the customer feels
comfortable with.

But, things are changing quickly.  Tivoli is displacing NetBackup at quite a
clip now in the large enterprises.  Tivoli's commitment to the Windows
platform is excellent and their functionality development is the strongest
in that area.  That will get them attention and market share.  Let's face it
if every one runs a product on Windows and it is very successful, they will
choose it for their other environments.  Watch out Roseville, the Tivoli
roller is coming.

-Original Message-
From: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Technical comparisons


Try this..

www.gartner.com/reprints/ibm/103494.html

It doesn't reflect any price comparisons though.





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Does anyone have a link to some detailed "white paper" sort of comparisons
between TSM and the leading competitors in storage management?

I have a customer specifically asking for comparisons between Veritas and
Tivoli - and the most recent google search turned up several marketing
pieces from Veritas and one Gartner comparison on old versions of ADSM/TSM
(version 3.x)..

Surely someone else has already invented this wheel?

Re: Technical comparisons

[Jolliff, Dale]

Thanks for all the information!

It was just exactly what I was looking for.

Re: Technical comparisons

[Mr. Lindsay Morris]

Paul Seay wrote an excellent comparison to the list back in January.
http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0201/770.html
and
http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0201/734.html

-
Mr. Lindsay Morris
CEO, Servergraph
www.servergraph.com
859-253-8000 ofc
425-988-8478 fax


> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jolliff, Dale
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Technical comparisons
>
>
> Does anyone have a link to some detailed "white paper" sort of comparisons
> between TSM and the leading competitors in storage management?
>
> I have a customer specifically asking for comparisons between Veritas and
> Tivoli - and the most recent google search turned up several marketing
> pieces from Veritas and one Gartner comparison on old versions of ADSM/TSM
> (version 3.x)..
>
> Surely someone else has already invented this wheel?
>

Our log fills up and server crashes

[Richard Foster]

Anyone seen this before?

Our TSM server has crashed 3 nights running with a full log. We started
with Logmode=Rollforward and 3960 MB log. We tried increasing to 6012 MB,
which delayed the crash by about 45 mins.

We have DB backup trigger at 60%. But even when the backup ran, we got msg
"ANR4556W Attention: the database backup operation did not free sufficient
recovery log space to lower utilization below the database backup trigger.
The recovery log size may need to be increased." I guess this indicates a
transaction which is out of control - but I can't identify which TXN it is.

We have now switched to Logmode=normal, but I'm not sure it'll help.

Setup: TSM server 4.2.1.11 running on AIX 4.3.3 plus ML9 and patches.
Clients on NetWare, Windows, Unix (various flavours), plus TDP for R/3.

Any comments, suggestions, etc received gratefully.

Richard Foster

Re: audit volume

[Gabriel Wiley]

Joni,

What I have to do is "delete volume xx discard=yes"

That takes care of the entry for it in the DB. (vol hist)

Gabriel C. Wiley
ADSM/TSM Administrator
AIX Support
Phone 1-614-308-6709
Pager  1-877-489-2867
Fax  1-614-308-6637
Cell   1-740-972-6441

Siempre Hay Esperanza



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Hello,

I had that problem the other day with reclaiming an offsite volume and was
told to do an audit volume on it which did work...  Now I am have problems
with that tape.  Apparently it is still offsite in the vault and TSM is
trying to mount the volume in the silo and use it in the copy storage pool
for a backup process, which it can't possibly do.  I think that the volume
is being shipped to onsite to be put in the silo, but that hasn't ocurred
yet.  To stop TSM from using this tape I marked it readonly, but what
should I do to prevent this problem from happening again?

Thanks so much

Joni Moyer
Associate Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338

Re: Question about 3590 tape drives

[Christo Heuer]

Hi Gerhard,

stop/start processing of the tape drive - the disk pool does not
stream the data fast enough to cause a continues flow of data - hence
when there has been a stop in the flow of data there needs to be some
kind of re-positioning - to continue writing where the last bit of
data was written.
Normal behavior.

Cheers
Christo
--


Hello,
I observed some strange behaviour of a 3590-E1A tape drive. During a
migrate operation from a disk pool to a sequential pool I watched the
operator panel. There I could see that the device after a write operation
did a locate followed by a read and then resumed writing. I observed this
behaviour several times. Is there an explanation for this?
I run TSM 4.1.2 on AIX 4.3.3
Best regards
Gerhard

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Regional Computing Center   tel: ++49/711/6855806
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Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Rysstad - Tor Arne]

Hi Eric, Wanda, Arshad and the rest of the world!

The Win2000 server has plenty of RAM and CPU! Tons and tons.. It's just a fileserver, 
the only thing particular is that it contains a large amount of small files.. Most of 
my users are programmers..

1. Is client-version dependent of server version? Can I safely upgrade my win2000 
server without having to change anything on the ADSM server?

2. If I upgrade, can I restore with a lower version-number (older) client?

Thank you very much !!!

Regards from Oslo, Norway,
Tor Rysstad

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Duh.  Yeah, too early for me this morning!
Sorry, I meant 4.2.1.20.

Thanks Eric!

-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Wanda!
I guess you meant upgrading to 4.2.1.20?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 14:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


I have seen that happen occasionally on our Win2K machines running the 4.1.3
clients (although here it was every few days, not every 10 minutes)...
You can try upgrading to the 4.1.2.20 client, that fixed a lot of misc.
problems for me on Win2K machines, including the "program memory exhausted"
messages.
Unless this machine really IS very short on memory...


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support
  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor!
Are there any messages related to the stop in the dsmsched.log or the
dsmerror.log?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hello everybody!

First of all, I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.. I am new
to this group...

I am running a Windows 2000 SP2 server, with IE6 and all the patches/updates
I have found..
Backup is taken to an ADSM server via TSM Backup Client Version 4, Release
1, Level 3.0.

Trouble is; every 10 minutes or so the TSM client agent service stops.. just
like that..

I have made a "net start.. " script that runs every 10 minute, but that's no
good.. :-)

Any reason for this happening known to man? Or to IBM? 

Patches? Updates? Changes? Magic?

Thank you very much in advance for any help, hints etc!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Arne Rysstad

PS. Does this group have a FAQ or an archive?




-
Tor Arne Rysstad
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

NT - drift; SKARP, MVA3


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Re: Macintosh files on an NT server/client

[William Rosette]

I currently have our printing services Macintosh desktops going to an NT
server (client in TSM).  When my AIX TSM server trys to back up the NT box
it runs fine till it gets to the Macintosh files and then crawls.  I have
97% I/O wait.  It is not beating the client's memory or processor, it just
takes its sweet ol time converting.  I FTP'ed 2 files (oh, by the way it is
a straight GB fiber from NT client to AIX server) 1 100 MB NT file took 4
seconds to FTP and the other 200 MB Macintosh File took 4 minutes.  When
talking to the Network guru and Support line, the Network guru asked if I
could back up RAW and skip the NT conversion.  Support said if I could make
like an NFS mount on the NT box, then the AIX TSM server could back up RAW.
The Network guru said he has some software that may make this possible.  My
question is, will this work and the main thing is will it restore?  Thank
you to all you TSMers, I thouroughly enjoy y'all's strings of dialogue.
Thanx again.

Re: dsmadmc displaymode

[Andrew Raibeck]

I have TSM server version 4.2.1.12, and the help section ends in a
complete sentence:


Besides the options listed here, you can also specify any option that is
in
the client options file. Each option must be preceded with a hyphen and
delimited with a space.

tsm: STORMAN_SERVER1>


Also, the dsmadmc options are documented in the Administrator's Reference.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




Michael Bartl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
04/03/2002 04:23
Please respond to michael.bartl


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: dsmadmc displaymode



John,
you can get information on the displaymode-option from dsmadmc help 10
(Using Administrative Client Options). It's just a bit strange, dsmadmc
ends this help section just within one sentence - we will never find out
how it ends...

Regards,
Michael

tsm: >help 10
Using Administrative Client Options



Using Administrative Client Options

In all administrative client modes, the administrative client options
modify
your administrative client session responses.

The following administrative client options can be specified with the
DSMADMC command and are valid from an administrative client session
only:

-DISPLaymode=LISt or TABle
 Allows you to force the QUERY output to tabular or list format
 regardless of the command line window column width.

 If you want the output to go to a file and you are using the
 -DISPLaymode option, use redirection to write to the file. Do not
use
 the -OUTfile option.

-ID=userid
 Specifies the administrator's user ID.

-PAssword=password
 Specifies the administrator's password.

-NOConfirm
 Specifies that you do not want TSM to request confirmation before
 processing commands that affect the availability of the server or
data
 managed by the server.

-Quiet
 Specifies that TSM does not display standard output messages to
your
 screen. However, when you use this option, certain error messages
still
 appear.

-CONsolemode
 Specifies that TSM runs in console mode. All unsolicited server
console
 output is echoed to your screen.

-MOUNTmode
 Specifies that TSM runs in mount mode. All server removable-media
mount
 messages are echoed to your scre en.

-Itemcommit
 Specifies that TSM commits commands inside a script or a macro as
each
 command is processed.

-OUTfile=filename
 Specifies that output from a server query is redirected to a
specified
 file. In batch mode, output is redirected to a file you specify and
the
 format of the output matches the format of the output on your
screen.

 In interactive, console, or mount mode sessions, output displays on
 your screen.

-OUTfile
 Specifies that output from a server query is formatted one line per
 query. This option is available in batch mode only.

-COMMAdelimited
 Specifies that any tabular output from a server query is to be
 formatted as comma-separated strings rather than in readable
format.
 This option is intended to be used primarily when redirecting the
 output of an SQL query (SELECT command). The comma-separated value
 format is a standard data format which can be processed by many
common
 programs, including spreadsheets, data bases, and report
generators.

-TABdelimited
 Specifies that any tabular output from a server query is to be
 formatted as tab-separated strings rather than in readable format.
This
 option is intended to be used primarily when redirecting the output
of
 an SQL query (SELECT command). The tab-separated value format is a
 standard data format which can be processed by many common
programs,
 including spreadsheets, databases, and report generators.

Besides the options listed here, you can also specify any option that is
in
the client options file. Each option must be preceded with a hyphen and

tsm: >

John O Neall wrote:
>
> Where is the doc on the dsmadmc "displaymode" option?
>
> Why is there neither a man nor a -h option on this command?  I know it
> runs on more than Unix, but still...
>
> Thanks in advance -- John
>
> --
> 
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Backup Services, IT Germany/Austria Tel: +49-89-92699

Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Prather, Wanda]

1) I'm running the 4.2.1.20 client with a 4.1.3 server, no problems.
I dont' think running with older servers is supported, but may still work.
(Servers older than 4.1 aren't supported, period...)

2) Once the first backup has occurred, no.  Clients are upward, not downward
compatible.

You can restore data backed up by and old client, with a newer client.
But you can't restore data backed up with a newer client, using an old
client.



-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric, Wanda, Arshad and the rest of the world!

The Win2000 server has plenty of RAM and CPU! Tons and tons.. It's just a
fileserver, the only thing particular is that it contains a large amount of
small files.. Most of my users are programmers..

1. Is client-version dependent of server version? Can I safely upgrade my
win2000 server without having to change anything on the ADSM server?

2. If I upgrade, can I restore with a lower version-number (older) client?

Thank you very much !!!

Regards from Oslo, Norway,
Tor Rysstad

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Duh.  Yeah, too early for me this morning!
Sorry, I meant 4.2.1.20.

Thanks Eric!

-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Wanda!
I guess you meant upgrading to 4.2.1.20?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 14:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


I have seen that happen occasionally on our Win2K machines running the 4.1.3
clients (although here it was every few days, not every 10 minutes)...
You can try upgrading to the 4.1.2.20 client, that fixed a lot of misc.
problems for me on Win2K machines, including the "program memory exhausted"
messages.
Unless this machine really IS very short on memory...


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support
  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor!
Are there any messages related to the stop in the dsmsched.log or the
dsmerror.log?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hello everybody!

First of all, I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.. I am new
to this group...

I am running a Windows 2000 SP2 server, with IE6 and all the patches/updates
I have found..
Backup is taken to an ADSM server via TSM

Re: For those Security conscious people running AIX

[Lisa Cabanas]

I think what Justin said about having to do extra steps is right (needing
additional filesets, specifically)-- I am at ML9, but when I look at the
levels of the filesets, they are still below what is indicated as being
unaffected, and the instfix doesn't show that APAR.

bummer.

lisa



Gabriel Wiley
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"ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager"
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04:13 PM
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Stor Manager"






I can't tell you if it was fixed in ML8 we went from ML3 to ML9 overnight
(or a very long weekend) ..

The security people, waived it in my face the other day and said get it
fixed.

Since we are at ML9 + there was no need , it was already there.

If you go to the software website it says you need to install 388 or so
filesets to be legit.. (Wrong not in this env.)

There have been buffer overflow issues in every version of AIX so far..

Problem Summar y

   The tsm family of commands (tsm,getty,login) does not
   properly validate the port name entered on the command
line.
   This can allow unpriviledged users to become root.


Gabriel C. Wiley
ADSM/TSM Administrator
AIX Support
Phone 1-614-308-6709
Pager  1-877-489-2867
Fax  1-614-308-6637
Cell   1-740-972-6441

Siempre Hay Esperanza



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I think I had to install this separately at a client site because it
required a few steps in order to take proper effect...  But to be
absolutely clear, this isn't Tivoli Storage Manager related.  For some
reason, the 'login' program on AIX is a link (an alias, if you will) to the
'tsm' program, which, again, has nothing to do with Tivoli Storage Manager.

-JD.

>Isn't/Wasn't this taken care of in ML8?
>
>
>
>Gabriel Wiley
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>conscious people running AIX
>"ADSM: Dist
>Stor Manager"
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>IST.EDU>
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>04/02/2002
>12:14 PM
>Please respond
>to "ADSM: Dist
>Stor Manager"
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>
>
>
>
>
>If you are not aware .. FYI 
>
>SECURITY: MULTIPLE BUFFER OVERFLOW VULNERABILITIES IN TSMLOGIN
>
>Created:01/04/2002 at 03:22 PM
>
>
>  Published Date:  01/04/2002
>
>
>
>
>
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>  OS or Applications Affected: AIX
>
>  Versions Affected:   4.3
>
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>  Severity:Medium
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>
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>  APAR/Patch ID:   IY26443
>
>  Workaround Available?:   No
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Run this command to see if you have it ;
>
>instfix -ik IY26443
>
>  or
>
>instfix -ick IY26443
>
>Keyword:Fileset:ReqLevel:InstLevel:Status:Abstract
>Y26443:bos.rte.security:4.3.3.79:4.3.3.79:=:SECURITY: Multiple buffer
>overflow vulnerabilities in tsmlogin
>
>
>Gabriel C. Wiley
>ADSM/TSM Administrator
>AIX Support
>Phone 1-614-308-6709
>Pager  1-877-489-2867
>Fax  1-614-308-6637
>Cell   1-740-972-6441
>
>Siempre Hay Esperanza

Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

[Seay, Paul]

select NodeName, sum(cast(cast(trim(substr(message,47,6)) as
decimal(10,3))*case when substr(message,54,2) = 'GB' THEN 1000 when
substr(message,54,2) = 'MB' THEN 1 when substr(message,54,2) = 'By' then
.001 end as decimal(10,0))) as "Megabytes" from actlog where msgno=4961 and
date_time >current_timestamp - 8 hours group by nodename

-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Do you have an example for the proper syntax/usage of using TRIM or CHAR?

-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

Also, if the length of the field is unknown as in a numeric text that you
want to evaluate you can do a TRIM on it to remove the blanks so that you
can convert it to a decimal number.

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


To control the length of character fields you can use:

CHAR(expression,n)
LEFT(exppression,n)
RIGHT(expression,n)
where n is the length of the string you want returned


-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Ike,
I got it to work with some help from Dennis Glover.  He sent me an
example of something that worked.  The big difference was that the -COMMA
option MUST BE LISTED BEFORE THE MACRO option.   So
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  -COMMA MACRO DD:D2works fine but
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  MACRO DD:D2 -COMMA does not!
Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ike Hunley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

Matt,

I have not found a way to get my data on one line either.  I input the data
into REXX code to reformat it the way I want.  What would you like your
output to look like? I could send you a REXX exec.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MC
Matt Cooper (2838)
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS



I have tried everyone's suggestions.  I believe the fact that I have one  AS
statement in the script that it will ignore the attempts of fixing the
output into a 1 line per node output.  The -COMMAdelimited , -TABdelimited,
-OUT didn't work.   I was able to get a 1 line output, with a title line and
some other 'extra' lines of TSM header and msgs.   The only way I seem to
have in controlling this is with the suggestion from Paul, using an AS "
big area  " .   This whole 'programming' area seems to go by a lot of
undocumented rules.  Why don't they document them somewhere?  Or give a
direct reference to which other product doc to look at?   I am able to
directly control the length of a numeric output with 'decimal(xx)'
statement.  What about character output?   I am still disappointed that I
can not seem to get an output that would be nothing more than what I really
want 12 character node name delimiter 4 digit number of days since last
access  delimiter   contact field name of 20 characters,then the next
line  . The best I came up with is as follows.
SCRIPT...

select node_name as "NODE", -
  cast((current_timestamp-lastacc_time)days as decimal(4)) as "DAYS", -
 contact as "   CONTACT  "  from nodes where -
  cast((current_timestamp-lastacc_time)days as decimal) >= 7

OUTPUT FILE .

ADSTAR Distributed Storage Manager

Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 3, Release 1, Level 0.7

(C) Copyright IBM Corporation, 1990, 1999, All Rights Reserved.



ANS8000I Server command: 'select node_name as "NODE",
cast((current_timestamp-


NODEDAYSCONTACT

-- --

AG570  58 Elliott/desktop

DEFIANT  12 R.Schulte, D.Harrison

DSS1OLD343 Connie Brooks

WIN2KAD 34 Karlene Michael

ANS8000I Server command: 'COMMIT'



ANS8002I Highest return code was 0.


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

That will help, but you can also do the AS "[ lots of spaces ]" to lengthen
the output field.  What we really need is a set displaymode=fixedraw.

This is an example of something that I do:

select stgpool_nam

audit volume

[Joni Moyer]

Hello,

I had that problem the other day with reclaiming an offsite volume and was
told to do an audit volume on it which did work...  Now I am have problems
with that tape.  Apparently it is still offsite in the vault and TSM is
trying to mount the volume in the silo and use it in the copy storage pool
for a backup process, which it can't possibly do.  I think that the volume
is being shipped to onsite to be put in the silo, but that hasn't ocurred
yet.  To stop TSM from using this tape I marked it readonly, but what
should I do to prevent this problem from happening again?

Thanks so much

Joni Moyer
Associate Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338

Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Ochs, Duane]

Hi Tor,
 Is there anything that is being displayed in Event Viewer in either
Application logs or System Logs that corresponds to the same time as your
Scheduler Service failures ?

 Also, unless you have a particular requirement for retaining your logs for
more than a week you could try setting the schedlogretention and
errorlogretention to around 7 - 14 days. We have had some strange things
happen when we had retention set to 90 days. Especially on our larger
systems.

 The TSM client agent should not be running all the time. It is only used to
communicate with the TSM server for backups, restore, archives and retrieval
via the web client. If your site is using this functionality then the Client
Acceptor should always be running.


Duane Ochs
Systems Administration
Quad/Graphics Inc.
414.566.2375

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


I have seen that happen occasionally on our Win2K machines running the 4.1.3
clients (although here it was every few days, not every 10 minutes)...
You can try upgrading to the 4.1.2.20 client, that fixed a lot of misc.
problems for me on Win2K machines, including the "program memory exhausted"
messages.
Unless this machine really IS very short on memory...


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support
  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor!
Are there any messages related to the stop in the dsmsched.log or the
dsmerror.log?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hello everybody!

First of all, I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.. I am new
to this group...

I am running a Windows 2000 SP2 server, with IE6 and all the patches/updates
I have found..
Backup is taken to an ADSM server via TSM Backup Client Version 4, Release
1, Level 3.0.

Trouble is; every 10 minutes or so the TSM client agent service stops.. just
like that..

I have made a "net start.. " script that runs every 10 minute, but that's no
good.. :-)

Any reason for this happening known to man? Or to IBM? 

Patches? Updates? Changes? Magic?

Thank you very much in advance for any help, hints etc!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Arne Rysstad

PS. Does this group have a FAQ or an archive?




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Re: Technical comparisons

[Brenda Collins]

Try this..

www.gartner.com/reprints/ibm/103494.html

It doesn't reflect any price comparisons though.





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Stor Manager"
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04/03/2002
07:12 AM
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to "ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager"






Does anyone have a link to some detailed "white paper" sort of comparisons
between TSM and the leading competitors in storage management?

I have a customer specifically asking for comparisons between Veritas and
Tivoli - and the most recent google search turned up several marketing
pieces from Veritas and one Gartner comparison on old versions of ADSM/TSM
(version 3.x)..

Surely someone else has already invented this wheel?

Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Andrew Raibeck]

There are no problems like this that I am aware of in the 4.1.3.0 client.

At the time the service stops, is the client actively backing up data, or
just sitting idly by, waiting for the scheduled event?

Have you checked the dsmsched.log and dsmerror.log files? They might
contain some useful information. Also, check your system's Application and
System event logs to see if there are any messages that might pertain to
the problem.

Lastly, you mentioned that you are backing up to an ADSM server. Was that
just a "slip", or do you really mean *ADSM*? Win2K support won't work very
well, if at all, with an ADSM server. You might be able to back up regular
files, but system objects such as registry, RSM, etc., will almost
certainly not work, and could be related to the problem you are seeing
(assuming TSM was actively backing up data at the time you saw the service
stop).

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




Rysstad - Tor Arne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
04/03/2002 00:50
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2



Hello everybody!

First of all, I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.. I am
new to this group...

I am running a Windows 2000 SP2 server, with IE6 and all the
patches/updates I have found..
Backup is taken to an ADSM server via TSM Backup Client Version 4, Release
1, Level 3.0.

Trouble is; every 10 minutes or so the TSM client agent service stops..
just like that..

I have made a "net start.. " script that runs every 10 minute, but that's
no good.. :-)

Any reason for this happening known to man? Or to IBM? 

Patches? Updates? Changes? Magic?

Thank you very much in advance for any help, hints etc!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Arne Rysstad

PS. Does this group have a FAQ or an archive?




-
Tor Arne Rysstad
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

NT - drift; SKARP, MVA3

Technical comparisons

[Jolliff, Dale]

Does anyone have a link to some detailed "white paper" sort of comparisons
between TSM and the leading competitors in storage management?

I have a customer specifically asking for comparisons between Veritas and
Tivoli - and the most recent google search turned up several marketing
pieces from Veritas and one Gartner comparison on old versions of ADSM/TSM
(version 3.x)..

Surely someone else has already invented this wheel?

Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Brenda Collins]

Hi!

Here's the web site you need to access to register for an ID to get into
the support site.

You can get to almost everything from the home page:
www.tivoli.com/storage

Brenda Collins
Storage Administrator
ING - Americas Infrastructure Services
(612) 342-3839  (Phone)





"Rysstad - Tor Arne"
 cc:
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist   Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent 
randomly
Stor Manager"   stopping on Windows 2000 SP2
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04/03/2002 04:12 AM
Please respond to "ADSM:
Dist Stor Manager"






Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot '\\.
\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server
playing an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of
humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support <
http://www.tivoli.com/support>  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor!
Are there any messages related to the stop in the dsmsched.log or the
dsmerror.log?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hello everybody!

First of all, I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.. I am new
to this group...

I am running a Windows 2000 SP2 server, with IE6 and all the
patches/updates
I have found..
Backup is taken to an ADSM server via TSM Backup Client Version 4, Release
1, Level 3.0.

Trouble is; every 10 minutes or so the TSM client agent service stops..
just
like that..

I have made a "net start.. " script that runs every 10 minute, but that's
no
good.. :-)

Any reason for this happening known to man? Or to IBM? 

Patches? Updates? Changes? Magic?

Thank you very much in advance for any help, hints etc!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Arne Rysstad

PS. Does this group have a FAQ or an archive?




-
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NT - drift; SKARP, MVA3


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Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM]

Hi Wanda!
I guess you meant upgrading to 4.2.1.20?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 14:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


I have seen that happen occasionally on our Win2K machines running the 4.1.3
clients (although here it was every few days, not every 10 minutes)...
You can try upgrading to the 4.1.2.20 client, that fixed a lot of misc.
problems for me on Win2K machines, including the "program memory exhausted"
messages.
Unless this machine really IS very short on memory...


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support
  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor!
Are there any messages related to the stop in the dsmsched.log or the
dsmerror.log?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hello everybody!

First of all, I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.. I am new
to this group...

I am running a Windows 2000 SP2 server, with IE6 and all the patches/updates
I have found..
Backup is taken to an ADSM server via TSM Backup Client Version 4, Release
1, Level 3.0.

Trouble is; every 10 minutes or so the TSM client agent service stops.. just
like that..

I have made a "net start.. " script that runs every 10 minute, but that's no
good.. :-)

Any reason for this happening known to man? Or to IBM? 

Patches? Updates? Changes? Magic?

Thank you very much in advance for any help, hints etc!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Arne Rysstad

PS. Does this group have a FAQ or an archive?




-
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NT - drift; SKARP, MVA3


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Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Prather, Wanda]

I have seen that happen occasionally on our Win2K machines running the 4.1.3
clients (although here it was every few days, not every 10 minutes)...
You can try upgrading to the 4.1.2.20 client, that fixed a lot of misc.
problems for me on Win2K machines, including the "program memory exhausted"
messages.
Unless this machine really IS very short on memory...


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support
  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor!
Are there any messages related to the stop in the dsmsched.log or the
dsmerror.log?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hello everybody!

First of all, I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.. I am new
to this group...

I am running a Windows 2000 SP2 server, with IE6 and all the patches/updates
I have found..
Backup is taken to an ADSM server via TSM Backup Client Version 4, Release
1, Level 3.0.

Trouble is; every 10 minutes or so the TSM client agent service stops.. just
like that..

I have made a "net start.. " script that runs every 10 minute, but that's no
good.. :-)

Any reason for this happening known to man? Or to IBM? 

Patches? Updates? Changes? Magic?

Thank you very much in advance for any help, hints etc!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Arne Rysstad

PS. Does this group have a FAQ or an archive?




-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM]

Hi Tor!
dsmcsvc Is the scheduler. The TSM Client Acceptor should only be running if
your planning to use the Backup/Archive Web client (http://client:1581)
which starts the TSM Remote Client Agent on request. I don't know for sure,
but you have that one set to Automatic, but I think it has to be Manual, but
again, I'm not sure...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 13:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Which services are required for proper backup with TSM Backup Client Version
4, Release
1, Level 3.0?

I have found these:

Service NameExecutable: Startup
type:   Status
"%computername%"dsmcsvc.exe
Automatic   Not started
TSM Remote Client Agent dsmagent.exeAutomatic
Not started
TSM Client Acceptor dsmcad.exe  Automatic
Started

Should all these services be running at all times?

Are there any known issues with running TSM agents on Windows 2000? Can I
upgrade the agent running on my Windows 2000 server without changing the
ADSM config, or upgrading all other TSM agents?

Thank you very much in advance for any help !!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Rysstad


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Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Prather, Wanda]

Duh.  Yeah, too early for me this morning!
Sorry, I meant 4.2.1.20.

Thanks Eric!

-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Wanda!
I guess you meant upgrading to 4.2.1.20?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 14:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


I have seen that happen occasionally on our Win2K machines running the 4.1.3
clients (although here it was every few days, not every 10 minutes)...
You can try upgrading to the 4.1.2.20 client, that fixed a lot of misc.
problems for me on Win2K machines, including the "program memory exhausted"
messages.
Unless this machine really IS very short on memory...


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support
  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor!
Are there any messages related to the stop in the dsmsched.log or the
dsmerror.log?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hello everybody!

First of all, I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.. I am new
to this group...

I am running a Windows 2000 SP2 server, with IE6 and all the patches/updates
I have found..
Backup is taken to an ADSM server via TSM Backup Client Version 4, Release
1, Level 3.0.

Trouble is; every 10 minutes or so the TSM client agent service stops.. just
like that..

I have made a "net start.. " script that runs every 10 minute, but that's no
good.. :-)

Any reason for this happening known to man? Or to IBM? 

Patches? Updates? Changes? Magic?

Thank you very much in advance for any help, hints etc!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Arne Rysstad

PS. Does this group have a FAQ or an archive?




-
Tor Arne Rysstad
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NT - drift; SKARP, MVA3


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Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM]

Hi Tor!
Hmm. Quite an interesting system you have there!
I'm a little bit out of suggestions here. You could check the Win2K Event
Viewer, maybe you can find any reason why Windows stops the service.
Maybe you really have a memory problem on your system (because of another
piece of software with memory leakage?). Have you started the Task Manager
to see how much memory is in use/available?
It's rather easy to obtain a Tivoli Support userid. You just have to know
your company's IBM or Tivoli Customer Number and fill the form on
http://www.tivoli.com/support/custreg/custreg.html. That's it! You will
receive your userid probably somewhere today.
The Tivoli support database doesn't help you with this problem though...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:13
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Eric and the rest of the list !

Thank you very much for the hint! (And for the patience..)

DSMERROR.log contains loads of this:
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Ctrl-C console event .
04/03/2002 11:16:59 ConsoleEventHandler(): Cleaning up and terminating
Process ...
I guess it goes without saying that I am not pressing Ctrl+C.. honest.. Is
this a known error?

Also this one is occur frequently:
04/03/2002 10:56:54 Unable to open Acknowledgement Mailslot
'\\.\mailslot\client'.
What does that mean?

04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Caught Logoff console event .
04/01/2002 16:59:14 ConsoleEventHandler(): Process Detached.
TSM is running as a service, not as an application.. Or is my server playing
an April 1. prank on me?? Wow, an IBM server with a sense of humor.. :-)

In the DSMSCHED.LOG file (OUCH.. scroll-cramp, scroll-cramp!!!)... I found
this:
03/18/2002 23:59:54 ANS1075E *** Program memory exhausted ***
This occured approx. 1,5 hours after the backup started. The server the
client is running on is working about as hard as Britany Spears' parents..
Looks like a general failure message to me.. Or?

Once again, thank you very, very much for any help or hints!

I guess that most of you fine people understand that I have no idea of what
I am doing.. Perhaps somebody could send me some URLs to TSM related
websites. I guess that might be better... BTW.. www.tivoli.com/support
  requires an code that I do not have...

Regards from Oslo, Norway,

Tor Rysstad



-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hi Tor!
Are there any messages related to the stop in the dsmsched.log or the
dsmerror.log?
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Rysstad - Tor Arne [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2


Hello everybody!

First of all, I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.. I am new
to this group...

I am running a Windows 2000 SP2 server, with IE6 and all the patches/updates
I have found..
Backup is taken to an ADSM server via TSM Backup Client Version 4, Release
1, Level 3.0.

Trouble is; every 10 minutes or so the TSM client agent service stops.. just
like that..

I have made a "net start.. " script that runs every 10 minute, but that's no
good.. :-)

Any reason for this happening known to man? Or to IBM? 

Patches? Updates? Changes? Magic?

Thank you very much in advance for any help, hints etc!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Arne Rysstad

PS. Does this group have a FAQ or an archive?




-
Tor Arne Rysstad
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

NT - drift; SKARP, MVA3


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Re: dsmadmc displaymode

[Michael Bartl]

John,
you can get information on the displaymode-option from dsmadmc help 10
(Using Administrative Client Options). It's just a bit strange, dsmadmc
ends this help section just within one sentence - we will never find out
how it ends...

Regards,
Michael

tsm: >help 10
Using Administrative Client Options



Using Administrative Client Options

In all administrative client modes, the administrative client options
modify
your administrative client session responses.

The following administrative client options can be specified with the
DSMADMC command and are valid from an administrative client session
only:

-DISPLaymode=LISt or TABle
 Allows you to force the QUERY output to tabular or list format
 regardless of the command line window column width.

 If you want the output to go to a file and you are using the
 -DISPLaymode option, use redirection to write to the file. Do not
use
 the -OUTfile option.

-ID=userid
 Specifies the administrator's user ID.

-PAssword=password
 Specifies the administrator's password.

-NOConfirm
 Specifies that you do not want TSM to request confirmation before
 processing commands that affect the availability of the server or
data
 managed by the server.

-Quiet
 Specifies that TSM does not display standard output messages to
your
 screen. However, when you use this option, certain error messages
still
 appear.

-CONsolemode
 Specifies that TSM runs in console mode. All unsolicited server
console
 output is echoed to your screen.

-MOUNTmode
 Specifies that TSM runs in mount mode. All server removable-media
mount
 messages are echoed to your scre en.

-Itemcommit
 Specifies that TSM commits commands inside a script or a macro as
each
 command is processed.

-OUTfile=filename
 Specifies that output from a server query is redirected to a
specified
 file. In batch mode, output is redirected to a file you specify and
the
 format of the output matches the format of the output on your
screen.

 In interactive, console, or mount mode sessions, output displays on
 your screen.

-OUTfile
 Specifies that output from a server query is formatted one line per
 query. This option is available in batch mode only.

-COMMAdelimited
 Specifies that any tabular output from a server query is to be
 formatted as comma-separated strings rather than in readable
format.
 This option is intended to be used primarily when redirecting the
 output of an SQL query (SELECT command). The comma-separated value
 format is a standard data format which can be processed by many
common
 programs, including spreadsheets, data bases, and report
generators.

-TABdelimited
 Specifies that any tabular output from a server query is to be
 formatted as tab-separated strings rather than in readable format.
This
 option is intended to be used primarily when redirecting the output
of
 an SQL query (SELECT command). The tab-separated value format is a
 standard data format which can be processed by many common
programs,
 including spreadsheets, databases, and report generators.

Besides the options listed here, you can also specify any option that is
in
the client options file. Each option must be preceded with a hyphen and

tsm: >

John O Neall wrote:
>
> Where is the doc on the dsmadmc "displaymode" option?
>
> Why is there neither a man nor a -h option on this command?  I know it
> runs on more than Unix, but still...
>
> Thanks in advance -- John
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Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

[MC Matt Cooper (2838)]

Do you have an example for the proper syntax/usage of using TRIM or CHAR?

-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

Also, if the length of the field is unknown as in a numeric text that you
want to evaluate you can do a TRIM on it to remove the blanks so that you
can convert it to a decimal number.

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


To control the length of character fields you can use:

CHAR(expression,n)
LEFT(exppression,n)
RIGHT(expression,n)
where n is the length of the string you want returned


-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS


Ike,
I got it to work with some help from Dennis Glover.  He sent me an
example of something that worked.  The big difference was that the -COMMA
option MUST BE LISTED BEFORE THE MACRO option.   So
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  -COMMA MACRO DD:D2works fine but
DSMADMC -ID=x -PA=x  MACRO DD:D2 -COMMA does not!
Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ike Hunley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

Matt,

I have not found a way to get my data on one line either.  I input the data
into REXX code to reformat it the way I want.  What would you like your
output to look like? I could send you a REXX exec.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MC
Matt Cooper (2838)
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS



I have tried everyone's suggestions.  I believe the fact that I have one  AS
statement in the script that it will ignore the attempts of fixing the
output into a 1 line per node output.  The -COMMAdelimited , -TABdelimited,
-OUT didn't work.   I was able to get a 1 line output, with a title line and
some other 'extra' lines of TSM header and msgs.   The only way I seem to
have in controlling this is with the suggestion from Paul, using an AS "
big area  " .   This whole 'programming' area seems to go by a lot of
undocumented rules.  Why don't they document them somewhere?  Or give a
direct reference to which other product doc to look at?   I am able to
directly control the length of a numeric output with 'decimal(xx)'
statement.  What about character output?   I am still disappointed that I
can not seem to get an output that would be nothing more than what I really
want 12 character node name delimiter 4 digit number of days since last
access  delimiter   contact field name of 20 characters,then the next
line  . The best I came up with is as follows.
SCRIPT...

select node_name as "NODE", -
  cast((current_timestamp-lastacc_time)days as decimal(4)) as "DAYS", -
 contact as "   CONTACT  "  from nodes where -
  cast((current_timestamp-lastacc_time)days as decimal) >= 7

OUTPUT FILE .

ADSTAR Distributed Storage Manager

Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 3, Release 1, Level 0.7

(C) Copyright IBM Corporation, 1990, 1999, All Rights Reserved.



ANS8000I Server command: 'select node_name as "NODE",
cast((current_timestamp-


NODEDAYSCONTACT

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AG570  58 Elliott/desktop

DEFIANT  12 R.Schulte, D.Harrison

DSS1OLD343 Connie Brooks

WIN2KAD 34 Karlene Michael

ANS8000I Server command: 'COMMIT'



ANS8002I Highest return code was 0.


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEED HELP CONTROLLING SCRIPT OUTPUT, FIELD LENGTHS

That will help, but you can also do the AS "[ lots of spaces ]" to lengthen
the output field.  What we really need is a set displaymode=fixedraw.

This is an example of something that I do:

select stgpool_name as "Storage Pool Name ",
cast(sum(est_capacity_MB*pct_utilized/100/1024) as decimal(7,3)) as "Total
GB in Pool", cast(avg(est_capacity_MB*pct_utilized/100/1024) as
decimal(7,3)) as "AVG GB / Tape", cast(count(volume_name) as decimal(4,0))
as "Tapes " from volumes where stgpool_name like 'CPY%' or stgpool_name like
'TAPE%' group by stgpool_name

Notice that he stgpool_name field is lenghtened to prevent the wrap by
adding the spaces.

-Original Message-
From: Rejean Larivee/Quebec/IBM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednes

Re: TSM Client Agent randomly stopping on Windows 2000 SP2

[Rysstad - Tor Arne]

Which services are required for proper backup with TSM Backup Client Version 4, Release
1, Level 3.0?

I have found these:

Service NameExecutable: Startup type:   Status
"%computername%"dsmcsvc.exe Automatic  
 Not started
TSM Remote Client Agent dsmagent.exeAutomatic   Not 
started
TSM Client Acceptor dsmcad.exe  Automatic  
 Started

Should all these services be running at all times?

Are there any known issues with running TSM agents on Windows 2000? Can I upgrade the 
agent running on my Windows 2000 server without changing the ADSM config, or upgrading 
all other TSM agents?

Thank you very much in advance for any help !!

Regards from Oslo, Norway
Tor Rysstad