Re: [AFMUG] OT power company guy anchors

[Bill Prince]

  
  
We just replaced a couple of Elite openers. A contractor cut a
  corner short and ripped one gate and the opener completely out of
  the ground. They had to be over 25 years old, but they'd been very
  reliable. The opener was beyond repair, and they don't make that
  model any more anyway.
So we ended up replacing both of them with a pair of LiftMaster
  RSW12U. We've had them installed for a bit over a year now.
  They're a teeny bit slower than the Elite units, but they operate
  on a pair of 12V batteries. If there's a power outage, they
  continue to operate for something like 130 open/close cycles.
LiftMaster makes another unit just like it that does a rolling
  gate. I think it's almost identical except for direction of the
  drive gear.


bp



On 7/3/2019 6:55 PM, Lewis Bergman
  wrote:


  
  Congrats. By the way, if you are happy with the
gate opener you choose please post what you decided on. I have a
couple of gate openers in my stroage complex that drive me
crazy.
  
  
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 7:24 PM
  Chuck McCown  wrote:


  

  
When I designed my shop, I was fitting it into an
  odd sized lot on a subdivision I was doing.  The lot
  was triangular and of course the building rectangular.
I wanted to be able to drive a semi+ trailer all
  the way around the whole building so that access to my
  loading dock was easy and nobody had to turn around or
  back up much.  
 
The limiting factor on the width of the drive was a
  set of guy wires from a very large set of triple pole
  transmission line corner.  There are about 15 guys on
  that setup.  6 anchoring the 3 poles in the two
  different directions and 3 splitting the angle on the
  corner.  Those three went off in the direction of my
  building.  
 
I have been trying for years to get the right
  person at the power company to come and evaluate the
  guys as I thought they could reduce the angle and give
  me some more space for the driveway.  They finally
  did.  
 
I gained 24 feet!  They just moved them closer to
  the poles.  
It was not free but they allowed me to save some
  money by digging the holes for the new anchors.  
 
So now I can set up a 30’ motorized rolling gate
  with a remote.  No more chain and padlock every
  morning and evening.  It was a good day today.  
  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 300 Gripes

[Ken Hohhof]

You mean CMBM?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 300 Gripes

 

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From: "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> >
To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:13:04 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Force 300 Gripes

We got our first EPMP3000 radio in the air.  I'm happy with the 
throughput, but Man the Force300 needs a redesign!  I would really have 
through they would have improved on the Force200 design, which was a 
major step up from the Force110.  Instead it's slipped way back from a 
function and Installation standpoint.

Only mountable in a single orientation, If you need a left hand mount, 
sorry, you're just not going to be able to install a Force300.  There is 
no way to rotate the mount.  For about 30% of our installs, we need to 
rotate a Force200 to the other orientation.
Feedhorn now goes in from the back but still secures from the front!  
Still have to take the radome off to replace the radio.
A single UBolt for all adjustment.  Really need 3 hands to mount the 
thing, trying to hold the radio, get the UBolt through and then trying 
to get the nuts on it, and trying to hold the radio aligned while 
tightening everything down.  And why are we back to dealing with Loose 
hardware while on a ladder/tower
LED's are now even dimmer than previous products!  I programed these on 
my desk, which is in a dark corner, and could barely see the LED's.  
They are completely impossible to see outside.

The Throughput and Radio technology seem strong, but come on engineers, 
ride along on a couple installs while you're in the design phase of a 
product.



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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Keefe John]

The antenna model is A-ANT-11G-36-C-A

Keefe

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 8:52 PM Keefe John  wrote:

> These are the radiowaves ones.
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 5:41 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Good point. Has to be circular waveguide on the antenna.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Tim Hardy  wrote:
>>
>> Dragonwave never made antennas - they private labeled either Commscope
>> ValueLine or RadioWaves antennas.  These would require an OMT or
>> dual-polarized feeds to get both polarizations.
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
>>
>> The TX power is correct.
>>
>> We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an
>> issue when installed.
>>
>> It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct
>> Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.
>>
>> Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at
>> once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol
>> in that you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on
>> the back of the dish but can you use two polarities at once?
>>
>> Keefe
>>
>> Keefe John
>> CEO
>> Ethoplex
>> Direct: 262.345.5200
>> 
>> Ethoplex Business Internet
>> http://www.ethoplex.com/
>> Signal Residential Internet
>> http://www.signalisp.com/
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but
>>> doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used
>>> Chuck's adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're
>>> seeing a 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original
>>> Dragonwaves was 1 or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
>>> >
>>> > Keefe
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 300 Gripes

[Mike Hammett]

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From: "Nate Burke"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:13:04 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Force 300 Gripes 

We got our first EPMP3000 radio in the air. I'm happy with the 
throughput, but Man the Force300 needs a redesign! I would really have 
through they would have improved on the Force200 design, which was a 
major step up from the Force110. Instead it's slipped way back from a 
function and Installation standpoint. 

Only mountable in a single orientation, If you need a left hand mount, 
sorry, you're just not going to be able to install a Force300. There is 
no way to rotate the mount. For about 30% of our installs, we need to 
rotate a Force200 to the other orientation. 
Feedhorn now goes in from the back but still secures from the front! 
Still have to take the radome off to replace the radio. 
A single UBolt for all adjustment. Really need 3 hands to mount the 
thing, trying to hold the radio, get the UBolt through and then trying 
to get the nuts on it, and trying to hold the radio aligned while 
tightening everything down. And why are we back to dealing with Loose 
hardware while on a ladder/tower 
LED's are now even dimmer than previous products! I programed these on 
my desk, which is in a dark corner, and could barely see the LED's. 
They are completely impossible to see outside. 

The Throughput and Radio technology seem strong, but come on engineers, 
ride along on a couple installs while you're in the design phase of a 
product. 



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Re: [AFMUG] OT power company guy anchors

[Lewis Bergman]

Congrats. By the way, if you are happy with the gate opener you choose
please post what you decided on. I have a couple of gate openers in my
stroage complex that drive me crazy.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 7:24 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> When I designed my shop, I was fitting it into an odd sized lot on a
> subdivision I was doing.  The lot was triangular and of course the building
> rectangular.
> I wanted to be able to drive a semi+ trailer all the way around the whole
> building so that access to my loading dock was easy and nobody had to turn
> around or back up much.
>
> The limiting factor on the width of the drive was a set of guy wires from
> a very large set of triple pole transmission line corner.  There are about
> 15 guys on that setup.  6 anchoring the 3 poles in the two different
> directions and 3 splitting the angle on the corner.  Those three went off
> in the direction of my building.
>
> I have been trying for years to get the right person at the power company
> to come and evaluate the guys as I thought they could reduce the angle and
> give me some more space for the driveway.  They finally did.
>
> I gained 24 feet!  They just moved them closer to the poles.
> It was not free but they allowed me to save some money by digging the
> holes for the new anchors.
>
> So now I can set up a 30’ motorized rolling gate with a remote.  No more
> chain and padlock every morning and evening.  It was a good day today.
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Keefe John]

These are the radiowaves ones.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 5:41 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Good point. Has to be circular waveguide on the antenna.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Tim Hardy  wrote:
>
> Dragonwave never made antennas - they private labeled either Commscope
> ValueLine or RadioWaves antennas.  These would require an OMT or
> dual-polarized feeds to get both polarizations.
>
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
>
> The TX power is correct.
>
> We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an
> issue when installed.
>
> It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct
> Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.
>
> Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at
> once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol
> in that you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on
> the back of the dish but can you use two polarities at once?
>
> Keefe
>
> Keefe John
> CEO
> Ethoplex
> Direct: 262.345.5200
> 
> Ethoplex Business Internet
> http://www.ethoplex.com/
> Signal Residential Internet
> http://www.signalisp.com/
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but
>> doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
>> >
>> > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's
>> adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a
>> 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1
>> or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
>> >
>> > Keefe
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[AFMUG] OT power company guy anchors

[Chuck McCown]

When I designed my shop, I was fitting it into an odd sized lot on a 
subdivision I was doing.  The lot was triangular and of course the building 
rectangular.
I wanted to be able to drive a semi+ trailer all the way around the whole 
building so that access to my loading dock was easy and nobody had to turn 
around or back up much.  

The limiting factor on the width of the drive was a set of guy wires from a 
very large set of triple pole transmission line corner.  There are about 15 
guys on that setup.  6 anchoring the 3 poles in the two different directions 
and 3 splitting the angle on the corner.  Those three went off in the direction 
of my building.  

I have been trying for years to get the right person at the power company to 
come and evaluate the guys as I thought they could reduce the angle and give me 
some more space for the driveway.  They finally did.  

I gained 24 feet!  They just moved them closer to the poles.  
It was not free but they allowed me to save some money by digging the holes for 
the new anchors.  

So now I can set up a 30’ motorized rolling gate with a remote.  No more chain 
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Chuck McCown]

Good point. Has to be circular waveguide on the antenna.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Tim Hardy  wrote:
> 
> Dragonwave never made antennas - they private labeled either Commscope 
> ValueLine or RadioWaves antennas.  These would require an OMT or 
> dual-polarized feeds to get both polarizations.
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
>> 
>> The TX power is correct.
>> 
>> We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an issue 
>> when installed.
>> 
>> It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct 
>> Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.
>> 
>> Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at 
>> once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol 
>> in that you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on 
>> the back of the dish but can you use two polarities at once?
>> 
>> Keefe
>> 
>> Keefe John
>> CEO
>> Ethoplex 
>> Direct: 262.345.5200 
>>  
>> Ethoplex Business Internet 
>> http://www.ethoplex.com/ 
>> Signal Residential Internet 
>> http://www.signalisp.com/ 
>> 
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>> Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but 
>>> doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's 
>>> > adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a 
>>> > 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1 
>>> > or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
>>> > 
>>> > Keefe
>>> > -- 
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Tim Hardy]

Dragonwave never made antennas - they private labeled either Commscope 
ValueLine or RadioWaves antennas.  These would require an OMT or dual-polarized 
feeds to get both polarizations.

> On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
> 
> The TX power is correct.
> 
> We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an issue 
> when installed.
> 
> It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct 
> Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.
> 
> Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at 
> once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol in 
> that you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on the 
> back of the dish but can you use two polarities at once?
> 
> Keefe
> 
> Keefe John
> CEO
> Ethoplex 
> Direct: 262.345.5200 
>  
> Ethoplex Business Internet 
> http://www.ethoplex.com/  
> Signal Residential Internet 
> http://www.signalisp.com/  
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/ 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  > wrote:
> Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but 
> doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  > > wrote:
> > 
> > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's 
> > adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a 
> > 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1 
> > or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
> > 
> > Keefe
> > -- 
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Keefe John]

The duplexors are in the proper alignment and they are not the mis-labeled
ones.  We've had that issue before.


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:06 PM Tim Hardy  wrote:

> Exactly - mislabeled duplexers has been a known problem.
>
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> Did you make sure you have the duplexors connected the right direction? I
> did that wrong once... and make sure you have the right duplexors for the
> sub-band you're on.
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:50 AM Brian Sullivan 
> wrote:
>
>> It's important to note when you attach the duplexors to the radio that
>> you are tightening both SMA connectors at the same time.
>> They warn about damage than can occur if you tighten them down one at a
>> time.
>>
>> On 7/3/2019 10:14 AM, Keefe John wrote:
>>
>> They are N Connectors and they came with the adapter from Chuck.
>>
>> We're going to double-check the tightness of the adapter and swap the
>> leads tonight.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:05 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Could be the adapter.  They are pretty simple and hard to screw up, but
>>> the cables could be bad too.  I have made very few of these things.  So
>>> far, no failures that I know about but there is always the first time.
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:00 AM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters
>>>
>>>
>>> Make sure you don’t have a mixup between SMA and RPSMA connectors.  I
>>> did that once, I assumed everything was RP and got an antenna with regular
>>> SMA connectors on it.  Had to buy different coax cables.  Signal was trying
>>> to jump the air gap between two female inner connectors.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Keefe John
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:28 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters
>>>
>>>
>>> The TX power is correct.
>>>
>>>
>>> We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an
>>> issue when installed.
>>>
>>>
>>> It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are
>>> correct Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities
>>> at once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual
>>> pol in that you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically
>>> on the back of the dish but can you use two polarities at once?
>>>
>>>
>>> Keefe
>>>
>>>
>>> Keefe John
>>>
>>> CEO
>>>
>>> Ethoplex
>>> Direct: 262.345.5200
>>>
>>> 
>>> Ethoplex Business Internet
>>> http://www.ethoplex.com/
>>> Signal Residential Internet
>>> http://www.signalisp.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
>>> Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but
>>> doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used
>>> Chuck's adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're
>>> seeing a 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original
>>> Dragonwaves was 1 or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
>>> >
>>> > Keefe
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Tim Hardy]

Exactly - mislabeled duplexers has been a known problem.

> On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
> 
> Did you make sure you have the duplexors connected the right direction? I did 
> that wrong once... and make sure you have the right duplexors for the 
> sub-band you're on.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:50 AM Brian Sullivan  > wrote:
> It's important to note when you attach the duplexors to the radio that you 
> are tightening both SMA connectors at the same time.
> They warn about damage than can occur if you tighten them down one at a time.
> 
> On 7/3/2019 10:14 AM, Keefe John wrote:
>> They are N Connectors and they came with the adapter from Chuck.
>> 
>> We're going to double-check the tightness of the adapter and swap the leads 
>> tonight.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:05 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> Could be the adapter.  They are pretty simple and hard to screw up, but the 
>> cables could be bad too.  I have made very few of these things.  So far, no 
>> failures that I know about but there is always the first time. 
>>  
>> From: Ken Hohhof <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:00 AM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters
>>  
>> Make sure you don’t have a mixup between SMA and RPSMA connectors.  I did 
>> that once, I assumed everything was RP and got an antenna with regular SMA 
>> connectors on it.  Had to buy different coax cables.  Signal was trying to 
>> jump the air gap between two female inner connectors.
>> 
>>  
>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>> Behalf Of Keefe John
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:28 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > >
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters
>> 
>>  
>> The TX power is correct.
>> 
>>  
>> We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an issue 
>> when installed.
>> 
>>  
>> It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct 
>> Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.
>> 
>>  
>> Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at 
>> once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol 
>> in that you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on 
>> the back of the dish but can you use two polarities at once?
>> 
>>  
>> Keefe
>> 
>> 
>> Keefe John
>> 
>> CEO
>> 
>> Ethoplex 
>> Direct: 262.345.5200
>> 
>>  
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>> http://www.ethoplex.com/  
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>> http://www.signalisp.com/  
>> 
>>  
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/ 
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown > wrote:
>> 
>> Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but 
>> doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John > wrote:
>> > 
>> > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's 
>> > adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a 
>> > 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1 
>> > or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
>> > 
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Mathew Howard]

Did you make sure you have the duplexors connected the right direction? I
did that wrong once... and make sure you have the right duplexors for the
sub-band you're on.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:50 AM Brian Sullivan 
wrote:

> It's important to note when you attach the duplexors to the radio that you
> are tightening both SMA connectors at the same time.
> They warn about damage than can occur if you tighten them down one at a
> time.
>
> On 7/3/2019 10:14 AM, Keefe John wrote:
>
> They are N Connectors and they came with the adapter from Chuck.
>
> We're going to double-check the tightness of the adapter and swap the
> leads tonight.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:05 AM  wrote:
>
>> Could be the adapter.  They are pretty simple and hard to screw up, but
>> the cables could be bad too.  I have made very few of these things.  So
>> far, no failures that I know about but there is always the first time.
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:00 AM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters
>>
>>
>> Make sure you don’t have a mixup between SMA and RPSMA connectors.  I did
>> that once, I assumed everything was RP and got an antenna with regular SMA
>> connectors on it.  Had to buy different coax cables.  Signal was trying to
>> jump the air gap between two female inner connectors.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Keefe John
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:28 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters
>>
>>
>>
>> The TX power is correct.
>>
>>
>>
>> We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an
>> issue when installed.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct
>> Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at
>> once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol
>> in that you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on
>> the back of the dish but can you use two polarities at once?
>>
>>
>>
>> Keefe
>>
>>
>> Keefe John
>>
>> CEO
>>
>> Ethoplex
>> Direct: 262.345.5200
>>
>> 
>> Ethoplex Business Internet
>> http://www.ethoplex.com/
>> Signal Residential Internet
>> http://www.signalisp.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but
>> doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
>> >
>> > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's
>> adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a
>> 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1
>> or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
>> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 300 Gripes

[Mathew Howard]

On the bright side, assembly is much quicker and simpler than the Force 200.

The sad thing is, all they would've had to do to make them left hand
mountable, is make the L bracket about a quarter inch wider, and you
could've just flipped the radio over.
As far as the U-bolt vs the Force200 style mount goes, I don't care much
either way... they both have pros and cons that makes it pretty much a wash
for me. But going with as large of a u-bolt as they did seems like overkill
for an SM... and it's kind of annoying that you need a different size of
wrench.

Yeah, the LEDs are pretty much useless outside. They really need to make
them brighter and/or use a different color that's actually visible in
daylight.

Having a Force 300-25, 300-16 and 300 CSM also seems more confusing than
the old naming system.

Overall, I like them. Mechanically, some stuff is slightly worse than the
Force 200, and some stuff is slightly better, but nothing I can't deal with.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:13 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> We got our first EPMP3000 radio in the air.  I'm happy with the
> throughput, but Man the Force300 needs a redesign!  I would really have
> through they would have improved on the Force200 design, which was a
> major step up from the Force110.  Instead it's slipped way back from a
> function and Installation standpoint.
>
> Only mountable in a single orientation, If you need a left hand mount,
> sorry, you're just not going to be able to install a Force300.  There is
> no way to rotate the mount.  For about 30% of our installs, we need to
> rotate a Force200 to the other orientation.
> Feedhorn now goes in from the back but still secures from the front!
> Still have to take the radome off to replace the radio.
> A single UBolt for all adjustment.  Really need 3 hands to mount the
> thing, trying to hold the radio, get the UBolt through and then trying
> to get the nuts on it, and trying to hold the radio aligned while
> tightening everything down.  And why are we back to dealing with Loose
> hardware while on a ladder/tower
> LED's are now even dimmer than previous products!  I programed these on
> my desk, which is in a dark corner, and could barely see the LED's.
> They are completely impossible to see outside.
>
> The Throughput and Radio technology seem strong, but come on engineers,
> ride along on a couple installs while you're in the design phase of a
> product.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Brian Sullivan]

It's important to note when you attach the duplexors to the radio that 
you are tightening both SMA connectors at the same time.
They warn about damage than can occur if you tighten them down one at a 
time.


On 7/3/2019 10:14 AM, Keefe John wrote:

They are N Connectors and they came with the adapter from Chuck.

We're going to double-check the tightness of the adapter and swap the 
leads tonight.



On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:05 AM > wrote:


Could be the adapter.  They are pretty simple and hard to screw
up, but the cables could be bad too.  I have made very few of
these things.  So far, no failures that I know about but there is
always the first time.
*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:00 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

Make sure you don’t have a mixup between SMA and RPSMA
connectors.  I did that once, I assumed everything was RP and got
an antenna with regular SMA connectors on it.  Had to buy
different coax cables.  Signal was trying to jump the air gap
between two female inner connectors.

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Keefe John
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:28 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

The TX power is correct.

We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't
see an issue when installed.

It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are
correct Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.

Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two
polarities at once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I
know they are dual pol in that you can connect a Dragonwave either
horizontally or vertically on the back of the dish but can you use
two polarities at once?

Keefe


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CEO

Ethoplex
Direct: 262.345.5200


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On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about
20db down but doesn’t that radio automagically take care of
that for you?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John 
wrote:
>
> We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and
used Chuck's adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave
dishes. Now we're seeing a 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The
DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1 or 2 db off the PCN.
What could be the problem?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Keefe John]

They are N Connectors and they came with the adapter from Chuck.

We're going to double-check the tightness of the adapter and swap the leads
tonight.


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:05 AM  wrote:

> Could be the adapter.  They are pretty simple and hard to screw up, but
> the cables could be bad too.  I have made very few of these things.  So
> far, no failures that I know about but there is always the first time.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:00 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters
>
>
> Make sure you don’t have a mixup between SMA and RPSMA connectors.  I did
> that once, I assumed everything was RP and got an antenna with regular SMA
> connectors on it.  Had to buy different coax cables.  Signal was trying to
> jump the air gap between two female inner connectors.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Keefe John
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:28 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters
>
>
>
> The TX power is correct.
>
>
>
> We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an
> issue when installed.
>
>
>
> It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct
> Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.
>
>
>
> Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at
> once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol
> in that you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on
> the back of the dish but can you use two polarities at once?
>
>
>
> Keefe
>
>
> Keefe John
>
> CEO
>
> Ethoplex
> Direct: 262.345.5200
>
> 
> Ethoplex Business Internet
> http://www.ethoplex.com/
> Signal Residential Internet
> http://www.signalisp.com/
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but
> doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
> >
> > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's
> adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a
> 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1
> or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[chuck]

Could be the adapter.  They are pretty simple and hard to screw up, but the 
cables could be bad too.  I have made very few of these things.  So far, no 
failures that I know about but there is always the first time.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:00 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

Make sure you don’t have a mixup between SMA and RPSMA connectors.  I did that 
once, I assumed everything was RP and got an antenna with regular SMA 
connectors on it.  Had to buy different coax cables.  Signal was trying to jump 
the air gap between two female inner connectors.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Keefe John
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:28 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

 

The TX power is correct.

 

We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an issue 
when installed.

 

It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct Chuck 
that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.

 

Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at once? 
 I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol in that 
you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on the back of 
the dish but can you use two polarities at once?

 

Keefe




Keefe John

CEO

Ethoplex 
Direct: 262.345.5200 

 
Ethoplex Business Internet 
http://www.ethoplex.com/ 
Signal Residential Internet 
http://www.signalisp.com/ 

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/

 

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but 
doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
  > 
  > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's 
adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a 20 Db 
signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1 or 2 db off 
the PCN. What could be the problem?
  > 
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Ken Hohhof]

Make sure you don’t have a mixup between SMA and RPSMA connectors.  I did that 
once, I assumed everything was RP and got an antenna with regular SMA 
connectors on it.  Had to buy different coax cables.  Signal was trying to jump 
the air gap between two female inner connectors.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Keefe John
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:28 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

 

The TX power is correct.

 

We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an issue 
when installed.

 

It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct Chuck 
that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.

 

Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at once? 
 I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol in that 
you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on the back of 
the dish but can you use two polarities at once?

 

Keefe




Keefe John

CEO

Ethoplex 
Direct: 262.345.5200 

 
Ethoplex Business Internet 
  http://www.ethoplex.com/ 
Signal Residential Internet 
  http://www.signalisp.com/ 

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/

 

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but 
doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John   > wrote:
> 
> We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's 
> adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a 20 
> Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1 or 2 
> db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Keefe John]

The TX power is correct.

We'll double check the tightness but the techs said they didn't see an
issue when installed.

It is possible the leads are switched at one end, however you are correct
Chuck that UBNT claims that doesn't matter with this radio.

Is anyone sure the Dragonwave dishes actually work with two polarities at
once?  I believe the literature says single pol.  I know they are dual pol
in that you can connect a Dragonwave either horizontally or vertically on
the back of the dish but can you use two polarities at once?

Keefe

Keefe John
CEO
Ethoplex
Direct: 262.345.5200

Ethoplex Business Internet
http://www.ethoplex.com/
Signal Residential Internet
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but
> doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
> >
> > We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's
> adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a
> 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1
> or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
> >
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[AFMUG] Force 300 Gripes

[Nate Burke]

We got our first EPMP3000 radio in the air.  I'm happy with the 
throughput, but Man the Force300 needs a redesign!  I would really have 
through they would have improved on the Force200 design, which was a 
major step up from the Force110.  Instead it's slipped way back from a 
function and Installation standpoint.


Only mountable in a single orientation, If you need a left hand mount, 
sorry, you're just not going to be able to install a Force300.  There is 
no way to rotate the mount.  For about 30% of our installs, we need to 
rotate a Force200 to the other orientation.
Feedhorn now goes in from the back but still secures from the front!  
Still have to take the radome off to replace the radio.
A single UBolt for all adjustment.  Really need 3 hands to mount the 
thing, trying to hold the radio, get the UBolt through and then trying 
to get the nuts on it, and trying to hold the radio aligned while 
tightening everything down.  And why are we back to dealing with Loose 
hardware while on a ladder/tower
LED's are now even dimmer than previous products!  I programed these on 
my desk, which is in a dark corner, and could barely see the LED's.  
They are completely impossible to see outside.


The Throughput and Radio technology seem strong, but come on engineers, 
ride along on a couple installs while you're in the design phase of a 
product.




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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Chuck McCown]

Both chains and both directions?  Cross pol would be about 20db down but 
doesn’t that radio automagically take care of that for you?

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> On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Keefe John  wrote:
> 
> We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's 
> adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a 20 
> Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1 or 2 
> db off the PCN. What could be the problem?
> 
> Keefe
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Re: [AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Nate Burke]

Correct TX Power in the AF11?  Have you checked the adapter is still 
tight on the dish?  We had one where the clips wouldn't stay latched.  
We had to secure them with zipties.


On 7/3/2019 8:24 AM, Keefe John wrote:
We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used 
Chuck's adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now 
we're seeing a 20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original 
Dragonwaves was 1 or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?


Keefe




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Re: [AFMUG] Bendable single use SMA torque wrench

[Caleb Knauer]

Haha I knew I should have prefaced this with stating I know how
fingers and wrenches work :-D

I get your points and suggested much the same, but at the same time
see their point.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 4:40 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> Yeah, that seems a little goofy. just use a 5/16" or 8mm open end wrench, and 
> just go like half a turn past finger tight... it's not like it needs to be 
> very precise .
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 2:11 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> What's the problem just using an ordinary 8 mm open end wrench?  So you 
>> don't over torque them?  They just need to be a little more than finger 
>> tight.  Is over tightening really a problem?   My issue with SMA connectors 
>> is usually weatherproofing them.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 1:37 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Bendable single use SMA torque wrench
>>
>> Any seen anything like this before?  Bendable, single use SMA torque wrench. 
>>  Trying to track down for a client and my google-fu is failing me.  Pic 
>> attached.
>>
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[AFMUG] 20 Db Loss with AF-11FX Adapters

[Keefe John]

We took a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Pluses off a link and used Chuck's
adapters to install AF-11FXs on the Dragonwave dishes. Now we're seeing a
20 Db signal loss on the RSL. The DSL with the original Dragonwaves was 1
or 2 db off the PCN. What could be the problem?

Keefe
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Re: [AFMUG] cambium goes public

[Josh Luthman]

Dude that was a week ago.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:18 AM David Milholen  wrote:

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> https://www.rcrwireless.com/20190701/network-infrastructure/cambium-networks-goes-public
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[AFMUG] cambium goes public

[David Milholen]

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20190701/network-infrastructure/cambium-networks-goes-public



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