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Re: [AFMUG] behavior management fee

2020-03-10 Thread Steve Jones

Like the customer who wants to log into every online portal and website
they have "just to make sure everything is working"

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 11:34 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> It sucks that a dentist is charging this because a kid with autism took
> extra time, and that insurance won’t pay it.
>
>
>
> But it makes me wonder if we could add that to our customer price lists.
> It sounds more professional than the moron and asshole fees we have
> previously discussed.  (oops, did I use a bad word?)
>
>
>
>
> https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/03/10/father-is-fighting-behavior-management-fee-on-dental-appointment-bill-for-his-son-with-autism/
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[AFMUG] behavior management fee

2020-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof

It sucks that a dentist is charging this because a kid with autism took
extra time, and that insurance won't pay it.

 

But it makes me wonder if we could add that to our customer price lists.  It
sounds more professional than the moron and asshole fees we have previously
discussed.  (oops, did I use a bad word?)

 

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/03/10/father-is-fighting-behavior-manageme
nt-fee-on-dental-appointment-bill-for-his-son-with-autism/

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[AFMUG] LiFePO4 batteries

2020-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof

I source some of my AGM batteries from Zeus.  I'll admit it's partly because
I can drive there and pick them up.  They are Chinese made, better than some
of the Chinese crap batteries, but not as good as some of the premium
brands, at least that's my experience.

 

Anyway, I went to their website today and was surprise to see a bunch of new
technologies listed like LiMnO2, LiSOCl2 and LiFePO4.  Also some bigass 6V
and 12V "Deep Cycle SLA" batteries that the spec sheets say are AGM and the
photos look like solar batteries, I'm not exactly sure how these compare to
their regular AGM line.  I wonder how these compare for price and quality to
some Concorde (Lifeline and SunXtender) batteries I have bought in 100 Ah
and 8D sizes.

 

https://www.zeusbatteryproducts.com/standard-batteries/

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Sean Heskett

The message I sent had a link to the about page of the journal article.

Here’s the PDF:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/jmv.25728

-Sean


On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:09 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Mark and Steve,
>
> Here is a peer reviewed journal from the Journal of medical virology if
> you would like to cut out the news networks and hear directly from the
> scientists investigating the situation.
>
> https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.25728
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:00 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <
> m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>
>> This all started with CNN years and years ago.  They were the first 24/7
>> news channel.  Even back then there wasn't enough news to cover 24/7.  They
>> ran a 2-3 hour loop and just added a few stories as they came up.  I
>> believe the main goal back then was to give people access to the news when
>> they wanted it.  They didn't have to wait till 6 or 11.  They could turn on
>> CNN watch it for 30 minutes and get caught up.  No one in their right mind
>> would leave it on all day, that would be torture.
>>
>> Fast forward now and we have way too many 24/7 hours "news" channels
>> competing for advertising dollars.  There just isn't enough natural content
>> to support all these channels, so they just have to fill it in with
>> completely made up shit.  So on any of these channels you get about 45%
>> made up shit, 45% advertising, 10% real news.  Of the real news, it is
>> usually spun to promote the 45% of made up shit.
>>
>> They have to get eyeballs or they don't get the $.  They exist now to get
>> you into a team mentally.  Has to be US vs THEM.  Tune in today to see what
>> the THEM is doing.  The THEM are against you.  The THEM are responsible for
>> all your problems.  If you don't have any problems, just wait the THEM are
>> going to give you some.  The THEM are going to take things away from you.
>> The THEM are going to give your things to someone else.  Keep watching us
>> so we can explain to you what the THEM are going to do to you next.
>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter if you watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, Bloomberg, PBS, etc.
>> They are all the same.
>>
>> Can't watch TV, no problem you can learn about the THEM on various
>> podcast or talk radio shows.
>>
>> The line between news and entertainment no longer exists.  I would love
>> to have tho old boring news back.  The news where if they didn't know
>> something, they would say "We are waiting on further details and will
>> report them to you as soon as possible."   Now if something is unknown we
>> get a panel of "experts" that will just make shit up and spin it to their
>> agenda.  By the time they are done talking, you can remember what really
>> happen vs what they want you to think has happened.
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>>
>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> www.Myakka.com
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 10:25:32 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> The best thing that may come of this is the media may finally be held to
>> account. This is a time the nation should be coming together and the media
>> is openly trying to divide. Both sides of the aisle, have stated this over
>> and over. Maybe we will just have a media reset, all the "journalists" and
>> pundits rounded up and summarily executed. Restart the whole thing with the
>> foreknowledge that freedom of the press only goes so far. When it gets too
>> far out of hand we just zero out the balance. If all of CNN and fox
>> people's heads were on pikes in front of their HQ, I bet the new
>> journalists would think long and hard about integrity
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Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

2020-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof

I don’t have a lot of 2011’s, but other than one that came with one Ethernet 
port DOA, I don’t think I’ve seen that kind of problem on that model.  And mine 
are outdoors in uncontrolled environments.  Well, except for one at my office.

 

One just general comment, are you tracking memory utilization (like graphing 
via SNMP)?  I have a weirdo customer who went from using Linux computers as 
routers to using Mikrotiks, I think CRS series.  He has his own /24 and gets 
portscanned like crazy and has connection tracking on.  He complains that his 
Mikrotiks keep having to be rebooted or netinstalled and he has all sorts of 
crazy explanations, but I’m convinced he is just running out of memory due to 
his conntrack table filling up.  Not my problem though, so I’ve avoided getting 
sucked into it.

 

2011 has I think 128 MB RAM, the heavier duty Mikrotiks have somewhere around 1 
– 4 GB.  I mean, I’ve still got a few smaller routers in my network like 493G 
and 850Gx2 and I don’t see RAM running low, but just tossing it out as a 
possibility.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 6:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

 

Stops handing out IPs and stops passing traffic.  

 

From: Colin Stanners 

Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 4:09 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

 

What kind of issue? I haven't heard model-specific bugs with those so they 
should "just work" forever.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 4:57 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

We have been having a similar issue with a RB2011iL-iN .

-Original Message- 
From: Darren Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:31 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

I only have one RB4011 in the field, but it seems to have a problem a couple
times a year. I now have it on a remote PDU which can power-cycle it when it
stops responding to pings, but if they come out with a f/w fix for this
problem, I'd be very interested!

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:24 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

This week I've had 2 RB4011 Routers lockup requiring a power cycle. They
were still passing some traffic, but stopped doing things like handing
out DHCP, or responding to SNMP.  And you couldn't log into them via
Winbox or MACNeighbor.

One was on ROS6.44.3, the other on ROS6.45.  Both of them were doing
NAT, whereas most of my Mikrotiks are only routing.  Both of these
locations have multiple RB4011s, and only the one doing NAT locked up.
Nothing is recorded in the log other than the reboot.  These were both
routers that have been installed for months.  One router lockup I can
attribute to a fluke, but 2 in the same week is worrysome.  Has any one
else noticed anything?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Sean Heskett

Mark and Steve,

Here is a peer reviewed journal from the Journal of medical virology if you
would like to cut out the news networks and hear directly from the
scientists investigating the situation.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.25728

-Sean


On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:00 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
wrote:

> This all started with CNN years and years ago.  They were the first 24/7
> news channel.  Even back then there wasn't enough news to cover 24/7.  They
> ran a 2-3 hour loop and just added a few stories as they came up.  I
> believe the main goal back then was to give people access to the news when
> they wanted it.  They didn't have to wait till 6 or 11.  They could turn on
> CNN watch it for 30 minutes and get caught up.  No one in their right mind
> would leave it on all day, that would be torture.
>
> Fast forward now and we have way too many 24/7 hours "news" channels
> competing for advertising dollars.  There just isn't enough natural content
> to support all these channels, so they just have to fill it in with
> completely made up shit.  So on any of these channels you get about 45%
> made up shit, 45% advertising, 10% real news.  Of the real news, it is
> usually spun to promote the 45% of made up shit.
>
> They have to get eyeballs or they don't get the $.  They exist now to get
> you into a team mentally.  Has to be US vs THEM.  Tune in today to see what
> the THEM is doing.  The THEM are against you.  The THEM are responsible for
> all your problems.  If you don't have any problems, just wait the THEM are
> going to give you some.  The THEM are going to take things away from you.
> The THEM are going to give your things to someone else.  Keep watching us
> so we can explain to you what the THEM are going to do to you next.
>
>
> It doesn't matter if you watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, Bloomberg, PBS, etc.  They
> are all the same.
>
> Can't watch TV, no problem you can learn about the THEM on various podcast
> or talk radio shows.
>
> The line between news and entertainment no longer exists.  I would love to
> have tho old boring news back.  The news where if they didn't know
> something, they would say "We are waiting on further details and will
> report them to you as soon as possible."   Now if something is unknown we
> get a panel of "experts" that will just make shit up and spin it to their
> agenda.  By the time they are done talking, you can remember what really
> happen vs what they want you to think has happened.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
>
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>
>
> Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 10:25:32 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> The best thing that may come of this is the media may finally be held to
> account. This is a time the nation should be coming together and the media
> is openly trying to divide. Both sides of the aisle, have stated this over
> and over. Maybe we will just have a media reset, all the "journalists" and
> pundits rounded up and summarily executed. Restart the whole thing with the
> foreknowledge that freedom of the press only goes so far. When it gets too
> far out of hand we just zero out the balance. If all of CNN and fox
> people's heads were on pikes in front of their HQ, I bet the new
> journalists would think long and hard about integrity
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Robert

As soon as I find it again I will post the link to DOCUMENTED 
asymptomatic transmissible cases.  Currently understood to be 20-22 
percent of cases.


On 3/10/20 6:30 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
There are no documented asymptomatic transmissions, fyi. Just 
assumptive transmissions.. John is married to Mary, Mary got sick, 
John tested positive, ie john must have given it to Mary because john 
works with a guy who had it. Except nobody bothers to note that john 
brought home a pen from work that both he and mary use. Quan boy jin 
at work, who had it, wrote a note to john at his desk. Quan doesn't 
wash his hands or sneeze into his shoulder


On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:21 PM Bill Prince > wrote:


The difference is the fatality rate. While 12,469 deaths sounds
horrible, it only amounts to a 0.02% fatality rate (assuming the
60 million infection number).

As far as we know (until we get better numbers on the total number
of cases, nCOV is hitting right around 3.4 to 3.6 % fatal. If that
rate holds, nCOV is 175X more fatal than H1N1.

If you look at _*JUST*_ Italy, their rate so far is around 6%.
That would be 300X more fatal than H1N1.

However, if we ever get a handle on the number of infections, nCOV
could be a lot lower. The big bugaboo right now is that we seem to
have a lot of people running around as asymptomatic carriers. They
infect a lot of the people they touch and they don't even know
they've got it. If that number is huge, then the fatality rate
"could" be a lot lower. The people who study this seem to think
we're going to end up in the 1-2 percent range for nCOV, but no
one really knows. If the number ends up being closer to 1%, it
would still be 50X worse than H1N1.


bp


On 3/10/2020 6:08 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

I'll be the first to admit my memory isn't the best.  But we have
been down this road before.  I do recall H1N1 as a distant
memory.  So, I googled it to jog my memory.  H1N1 happen in 2009.
When all was said and done per the CDC "From April 12, 2009 to
April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases
(range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range:
195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the
United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus."

Some observations between then and now

1. I don't recall wide spread panic.  I'm I just not remembering
the run on toilet paper, cleaners, H2O, etc.  I'm sure there were
some functions cancelled and sporadic school closures, but did
schools like Harvard cancel classes?

2. Social media wasn't a big thing back then.  Didn't have 10's
of thousands of social media experts telling us what to think.

3. Politics.  H1N1 happened right after Obama was elected.  Right
or left leading, you have to admit he was still in his honeymoon
period.  He could do no wrong.  Press was VERY much on his side. 
Hell, he even got a Nobel Peace prize in 2009.  Compare that to
now. Election year.  Press hates the current president. Economy
needs to be destroyed.


How did we survive back then?  CDC reports over 350,000 people
world wide died due to H1N1.  Is this virus that much worst than
H1N1?


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html



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Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 7:32:33 PM, you wrote:


If you figure out a solution to the belief that beliefs trump
facts, please let all of us know so we can help apply the fix.



On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:36 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

If you know someone who doesn’t understand why canceled events
and self-quarantines save lives, here’s a good explainer, with
all facts and no politics:

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation

(yes, I know some people think facts are political, but I don’t
have an answer to that)

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 7:26 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

You are much kinder...I call the top politicians on this response
completely inept.  You can't frickin tweet this away.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 5:46 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

I just watched the news conference on the TV.
IMHO, VP Pence and the medical experts did a decent job, except
when Pence had to engage in ritual sucking up to his boss.
But it seems like the adults are mostly in charge and hopefully
will do the right things going forward regarding the virus response.
It doesn’t seem like Pence is throwing roadblocks

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

This all started with CNN years and years ago. They were the first 24/7 news channel. Even back then there wasn't enough news to cover 24/7. They ran a 2-3 hour loop and just added a few stories as they came up. I believe the main goal back then was to give people access to the news when they wanted it. They didn't have to wait till 6 or 11. They could turn on CNN watch it for 30 minutes and get caught up. No one in their right mind would leave it on all day, that would be torture.

Fast forward now and we have way too many 24/7 hours "news" channels competing for advertising dollars. There just isn't enough natural content to support all these channels, so they just have to fill it in with completely made up shit. So on any of these channels you get about 45% made up shit, 45% advertising, 10% real news. Of the real news, it is usually spun to promote the 45% of made up shit.

They have to get eyeballs or they don't get the $. They exist now to get you into a team mentally. Has to be US vs THEM. Tune in today to see what the THEM is doing. The THEM are against you. The THEM are responsible for all your problems. If you don't have any problems, just wait the THEM are going to give you some. The THEM are going to take things away from you. The THEM are going to give your things to someone else. Keep watching us so we can explain to you what the THEM are going to do to you next.

It doesn't matter if you watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, Bloomberg, PBS, etc. They are all the same.

Can't watch TV, no problem you can learn about the THEM on various podcast or talk radio shows.

The line between news and entertainment no longer exists. I would love to have tho old boring news back. The news where if they didn't know something, they would say "We are waiting on further details and will report them to you as soon as possible." Now if something is unknown we get a panel of "experts" that will just make shit up and spin it to their agenda. By the time they are done talking, you can remember what really happen vs what they want you to think has happened.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 10:25:32 PM, you wrote:

The best thing that may come of this is the media may finally be held to account. This is a time the nation should be coming together and the media is openly trying to divide. Both sides of the aisle, have stated this over and over. Maybe we will just have a media reset, all the "journalists" and pundits rounded up and summarily executed. Restart the whole thing with the foreknowledge that freedom of the press only goes so far. When it gets too far out of hand we just zero out the balance. If all of CNN and fox people's heads were on pikes in front of their HQ, I bet the new journalists would think long and hard about integrity

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof

Interesting that Taiwan has done a good job despite proximity to China and much 
travel between the two.  Key seems to be they never dismantled their virus 
response procedures, command center, task force, etc. after the SARS epidemic, 
and they jumped on it at first report way back around Dec. 31.

 

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/10/21171722/taiwan-coronavirus-china-social-distancing-quarantine

 

I think I heard that Singapore has also had some success.  This is encouraging 
if we can learn what has worked and what hasn’t.  I get the impression that all 
the people in Asian countries running around with facemasks (which they were 
probably already doing in China because of air pollution) wasn’t as helpful as 
they thought.  But even China seems to have turned things around.  Hopefully we 
can learn some things from them that don’t involve draconian measures that 
wouldn’t work here.  Although that’s what they’re doing in Italy.  The numbers 
from Italy are really bad, some people say it’s because of an older population, 
I suspect they have a lot more cases than they are counting so the denominator 
in the deaths/cases is wrong, but also maybe they have done some things wrong 
we can learn from.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:22 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

 

wexcept they were actually TESTING for it. Unlike this Rube Goldberg place we 
call a first world country.

bp

 

On 3/10/2020 7:20 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Lol,China. There is no way there to know who caught it from whom. Same example 
as the pencil, only on a much much larger scale. Members of the same families 
probably caught it multiple places

 

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:42 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not true. The Chinese have documented this. They have documented cases of 
people who tested positive w/o symptoms and their relatives got sick.

Kissy kissy.

bp

 

On 3/10/2020 6:30 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

There are no documented asymptomatic transmissions, fyi. Just assumptive 
transmissions.. John is married to Mary, Mary got sick, John tested positive, 
ie john must have given it to Mary because john works with a guy who had it. 
Except nobody bothers to note that john brought home a pen from work that both 
he and mary use. Quan boy jin at work, who had it, wrote a note to john at his 
desk. Quan doesn't wash his hands or sneeze into his shoulder

 

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:21 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The difference is the fatality rate. While 12,469 deaths sounds horrible, it 
only amounts to a 0.02% fatality rate (assuming the 60 million infection 
number).

As far as we know (until we get better numbers on the total number of cases, 
nCOV is hitting right around 3.4 to 3.6 % fatal. If that rate holds, nCOV is 
175X more fatal than H1N1.

If you look at JUST Italy, their rate so far is around 6%. That would be 300X 
more fatal than H1N1.

However, if we ever get a handle on the number of infections, nCOV could be a 
lot lower. The big bugaboo right now is that we seem to have a lot of people 
running around as asymptomatic carriers. They infect a lot of the people they 
touch and they don't even know they've got it. If that number is huge, then the 
fatality rate "could" be a lot lower. The people who study this seem to think 
we're going to end up in the 1-2 percent range for nCOV, but no one really 
knows. If the number ends up being closer to 1%, it would still be 50X worse 
than H1N1.

 

bp

 

On 3/10/2020 6:08 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

I'll be the first to admit my memory isn't the best.  But we have been down 
this road before.  I do recall H1N1 as a distant memory.  So, I googled it to 
jog my memory.  H1N1 happen in 2009. When all was said and done per the CDC 
"From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million 
cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 
195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States 
due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus."

Some observations between then and now

1. I don't recall wide spread panic.  I'm I just not remembering the run on 
toilet paper, cleaners, H2O, etc.  I'm sure there were some functions cancelled 
and sporadic school closures, but did schools like Harvard cancel classes?

2. Social media wasn't a big thing back then.  Didn't have 10's of thousands of 
social media experts telling us what to think.

3. Politics.  H1N1 happened right after Obama was elected.  Right or left 
leading, you have to admit he was still in his honeymoon period.  He could do 
no wrong.  Press was VERY much on his side.  Hell, he even got a Nobel Peace 
prize in 2009.  Compare that to now.  Election year.  Press hates the current 
president.  Economy needs to be destroyed.


How did we survive back then?  CDC reports over 350,000 people world wide died 
due to H1N1.  Is this virus that much worst

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Sean Heskett

What do we do about all the scientists who are giving the journalists all
their facts?

-Sean


On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:26 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> The best thing that may come of this is the media may finally be held to
> account. This is a time the nation should be coming together and the media
> is openly trying to divide. Both sides of the aisle, have stated this over
> and over. Maybe we will just have a media reset, all the "journalists" and
> pundits rounded up and summarily executed. Restart the whole thing with the
> foreknowledge that freedom of the press only goes so far. When it gets too
> far out of hand we just zero out the balance. If all of CNN and fox
> people's heads were on pikes in front of their HQ, I bet the new
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Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

2020-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof

Actually I thought yesterday was high for a Monday.  Nate Burke had warned me 
about this:

https://blog.activision.com/call-of-duty/2020-03/Introducing-a-game-changing-FREE-TO-PLAY-experience-Call-of-Duty-Warzone

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:38 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

 

17G tonight versus 15G normally.   A couple of big game updates out today.

 

Mark 





On Mar 10, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > wrote:

 

Andreas,

We are actually running lower than usual tonight.  Almost by 50%, odd...

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than usual.  Just seeing if I’m the only one… It’s really strange.









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Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

2020-03-10 Thread Seth Mattinen


On 3/10/20 6:53 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
My on-net Akamai cluster has been 4-6Gbps today.. and funny enough 
Akamai sends me an email this afternoon saying they’re going to 
decommission the cluster we’ve had for 20 years.  “Lack of demand”.. uh 
huh.  I guess the new baseline is 10Gbps average from them. :(





Yeah things are going back to small number of large sites instead of 
smaller sites close to the end user. And some won't even peer with you 
unless you're big enough like Fastly. Anyone remember when CDN was cache 
fill over satellite so as not to use expensive bandwidth on your T1 or T3?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Steve Jones

The best thing that may come of this is the media may finally be held to
account. This is a time the nation should be coming together and the media
is openly trying to divide. Both sides of the aisle, have stated this over
and over. Maybe we will just have a media reset, all the "journalists" and
pundits rounded up and summarily executed. Restart the whole thing with the
foreknowledge that freedom of the press only goes so far. When it gets too
far out of hand we just zero out the balance. If all of CNN and fox
people's heads were on pikes in front of their HQ, I bet the new
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
wexcept they were actually TESTING for it. Unlike this Rube
  Goldberg place we call a first world country.

bp



On 3/10/2020 7:20 PM, Steve Jones
  wrote:


  
  Lol,China. There is no way there to know who
caught it from whom. Same example as the pencil, only on a much
much larger scale. Members of the same families probably caught
it multiple places
  
  
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:42 PM
  Bill Prince  wrote:


  
Not true. The Chinese have documented this. They have
  documented cases of people who tested positive w/o
  symptoms and their relatives got sick.
Kissy kissy.

bp



On 3/10/2020 6:30 PM, Steve Jones wrote:


  There are no documented asymptomatic
transmissions, fyi. Just assumptive transmissions.. John
is married to Mary, Mary got sick, John tested positive,
ie john must have given it to Mary because john works
with a guy who had it. Except nobody bothers to note
that john brought home a pen from work that both he and
mary use. Quan boy jin at work, who had it, wrote a note
to john at his desk. Quan doesn't wash his hands or
sneeze into his shoulder
  
  
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020,
  8:21 PM Bill Prince 
  wrote:


  
The difference is the fatality rate. While 12,469
  deaths sounds horrible, it only amounts to a 0.02%
  fatality rate (assuming the 60 million infection
  number).

As far as we know (until we get better numbers on
  the total number of cases, nCOV is hitting right
  around 3.4 to 3.6 % fatal. If that rate holds,
  nCOV is 175X more fatal than H1N1.
If you look at JUST Italy, their
  rate so far is around 6%. That would be 300X more
  fatal than H1N1.
However, if we ever get a handle on the number of
  infections, nCOV could be a lot lower. The big
  bugaboo right now is that we seem to have a lot of
  people running around as asymptomatic carriers.
  They infect a lot of the people they touch and
  they don't even know they've got it. If that
  number is huge, then the fatality rate "could" be
  a lot lower. The people who study this seem to
  think we're going to end up in the 1-2 percent
  range for nCOV, but no one really knows. If the
  number ends up being closer to 1%, it would still
  be 50X worse than H1N1.



bp



On 3/10/2020 6:08 PM, Mark - Myakka
  Technologies wrote:

 I'll be the first to
admit my memory isn't the best.  But we have
been down this road before.  I do recall H1N1 as
a distant memory.  So, I googled it to jog my
memory.  H1N1 happen in 2009. When all was said
and done per the CDC "From April 12, 2009 to
April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8
million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million),
274,304 hospitalizations (range:
195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range:
8868-18,306) in the United States due to the
(H1N1)pdm09 virus."

Some observations between then and now

1. I don't recall wide spread panic.  I'm I just
not remembering the run on toilet paper,
cleaners, H2O, etc.  I'm sure there were some
functions cancelled and sporadic school
closures, but did schools like Harvard cancel
classes?

2. Social media wasn't a big thing back then. 
Didn't have 10's of thousands of social media
experts telling us what to think.

3. Politics.  H1N1 happened right after Obama

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Steve Jones

Lol,China. There is no way there to know who caught it from whom. Same
example as the pencil, only on a much much larger scale. Members of the
same families probably caught it multiple places

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:42 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Not true. The Chinese have documented this. They have documented cases of
> people who tested positive w/o symptoms and their relatives got sick.
>
> Kissy kissy.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/10/2020 6:30 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> There are no documented asymptomatic transmissions, fyi. Just assumptive
> transmissions.. John is married to Mary, Mary got sick, John tested
> positive, ie john must have given it to Mary because john works with a guy
> who had it. Except nobody bothers to note that john brought home a pen from
> work that both he and mary use. Quan boy jin at work, who had it, wrote a
> note to john at his desk. Quan doesn't wash his hands or sneeze into his
> shoulder
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:21 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> The difference is the fatality rate. While 12,469 deaths sounds horrible,
>> it only amounts to a 0.02% fatality rate (assuming the 60 million infection
>> number).
>>
>> As far as we know (until we get better numbers on the total number of
>> cases, nCOV is hitting right around 3.4 to 3.6 % fatal. If that rate holds,
>> nCOV is 175X more fatal than H1N1.
>>
>> If you look at *JUST* Italy, their rate so far is around 6%. That would
>> be 300X more fatal than H1N1.
>>
>> However, if we ever get a handle on the number of infections, nCOV could
>> be a lot lower. The big bugaboo right now is that we seem to have a lot of
>> people running around as asymptomatic carriers. They infect a lot of the
>> people they touch and they don't even know they've got it. If that number
>> is huge, then the fatality rate "could" be a lot lower. The people who
>> study this seem to think we're going to end up in the 1-2 percent range for
>> nCOV, but no one really knows. If the number ends up being closer to 1%, it
>> would still be 50X worse than H1N1.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/2020 6:08 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
>>
>> I'll be the first to admit my memory isn't the best.  But we have been
>> down this road before.  I do recall H1N1 as a distant memory.  So, I
>> googled it to jog my memory.  H1N1 happen in 2009. When all was said and
>> done per the CDC "From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated
>> there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304
>> hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range:
>> 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus."
>>
>> Some observations between then and now
>>
>> 1. I don't recall wide spread panic.  I'm I just not remembering the run
>> on toilet paper, cleaners, H2O, etc.  I'm sure there were some functions
>> cancelled and sporadic school closures, but did schools like Harvard cancel
>> classes?
>>
>> 2. Social media wasn't a big thing back then.  Didn't have 10's of
>> thousands of social media experts telling us what to think.
>>
>> 3. Politics.  H1N1 happened right after Obama was elected.  Right or left
>> leading, you have to admit he was still in his honeymoon period.  He could
>> do no wrong.  Press was VERY much on his side.  Hell, he even got a Nobel
>> Peace prize in 2009.  Compare that to now.  Election year.  Press hates the
>> current president.  Economy needs to be destroyed.
>>
>>
>> How did we survive back then?  CDC reports over 350,000 people world wide
>> died due to H1N1.  Is this virus that much worst than H1N1?
>>
>>
>> https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>>
>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> www.Myakka.com
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 7:32:33 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> If you figure out a solution to the belief that beliefs trump facts,
>> please let all of us know so we can help apply the fix.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:36 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> If you know someone who doesn’t understand why canceled events and
>> self-quarantines save lives, here’s a good explainer, with all facts and no
>> politics:
>>
>> https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation
>>
>> (yes, I know some people think facts are political, but I don’t have an
>> answer to that)
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 7:26 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>>
>> You are much kinder...I call the top politicians on this response
>> completely inept.  You can't frickin tweet this away.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 5:46 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> I just watched the news conference on the TV.
>> IMHO, VP Pence and the medical experts did a decent job, except when
>> Pence had to engage in ritual sucking up to his boss.
>> But it seems like the adults are mostly in charge and

Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

2020-03-10 Thread Cassidy B. Larson

My on-net Akamai cluster has been 4-6Gbps today.. and funny enough Akamai sends 
me an email this afternoon saying they’re going to decommission the cluster 
we’ve had for 20 years.  “Lack of demand”.. uh huh.  I guess the new baseline 
is 10Gbps average from them. :(





> On Mar 10, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Andreas Wiatowski  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all, you are likely right if it a major game update.
> 
> Appreciate it!  Mark is likely getting lower bandwidth because he is in the 
> retirement state. ;.>
> 
> 
> Internet.
> Phone.
> TV.
> Andreas Wiatowski
> CEO/Founder
> Silo
> 1-866-727-4138, ext 600 
>  |
> andr...@silo.ca 
> silo.ca 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf 
> of Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net>>
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  >
> Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 9:38 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  >
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage
> 
> [EXTERNAL]
> 17G tonight versus 15G normally.   A couple of big game updates out today.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies > > wrote:
>> 
>> Andreas,
>> 
>> We are actually running lower than usual tonight.  Almost by 50%, odd...
>> 
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>> 
>> 
>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> www.Myakka.com 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 9:14:27 PM, you wrote: <>
>> Anyone seen an unusual spike in usage tonight?  We are using almost 1Gbps 
>> more than usual.  Just seeing if I’m the only one… It’s really strange.
>> 
>> Internet.
>> Phone.
>> TV.
>> Andreas Wiatowski
>> CEO/Founder
>> Silo
>> 1-866-727-4138, ext 600 
>> |
>> andr...@silo.ca 
>> silo.ca 
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Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

2020-03-10 Thread Andreas Wiatowski

Thanks all, you are likely right if it a major game update.

Appreciate it!  Mark is likely getting lower bandwidth because he is in the 
retirement state. ;.>


Internet.
Phone.
TV.
Andreas Wiatowski
CEO/Founder
Silo
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andr...@silo.ca
silo.ca



From: AF  on behalf of Mark Radabaugh 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 9:38 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

[EXTERNAL]
17G tonight versus 15G normally.   A couple of big game updates out today.

Mark


On Mar 10, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:

Andreas,

We are actually running lower than usual tonight.  Almost by 50%, odd...

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Anyone seen an unusual spike in usage tonight?  We are using almost 1Gbps more 
than usual.  Just seeing if I’m the only one… It’s really strange.

Internet.
Phone.
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Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

2020-03-10 Thread Andreas Wiatowski

I’m helping with transition till July 23rd.  Then I’m taking a month or 2 off… 
then we will see what I do.


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From: AF  on behalf of Colin Stanners 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 9:27 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

[EXTERNAL]
One province over, usage for us is on the high side but I wouldn't call it 
unusual. Some big game updates or a popular new series on Netflix probably.

I thought that Silo was disappearing into the Xplornet fold? Andreas, you need 
to buy and retire to an island on the lakes.


On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:15 PM Andreas Wiatowski 
mailto:andr...@silo.ca>> wrote:
Anyone seen an unusual spike in usage tonight?  We are using almost 1Gbps more 
than usual.  Just seeing if I’m the only one… It’s really strange.
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silo.ca

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus


Bill,

I don't buy into the fatality rate.  As the number of tests increase and the number of infected increase the fatality rate will drop.  

There are some places that are in the shits (S Korea, Iran, Italy).  But for the most part, I think the other countries will get a handle on this.  Yes, our numbers will spike.  But I don't believe hospitals will run out of beds.  I don't believe all our tap water will become undrinkable.  I don't believe all the toilet paper producers will halt production.

I just feel in my gut we are getting hoodwinked.  The old "Never let a good crisis go to waste".  At a time when as a country we should be pulling together, the media is worried about their clicks and eyeballs.  I really don't give a crap if you are left or right leaning, the bullshit over the top headlines need to stop.  And don't get me started on the pure 100% bullshit that spews from facebook, instagram, twitter, etc. that people post everyday.  

I guess my wife may be right.  I may be a grumpy old man.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 9:20:48 PM, you wrote:





The difference is the fatality rate. While 12,469 deaths sounds horrible, it only amounts to a 0.02% fatality rate (assuming the 60 million infection number).
As far as we know (until we get better numbers on the total number of cases, nCOV is hitting right around 3.4 to 3.6 % fatal. If that rate holds, nCOV is 175X more fatal than H1N1.
If you look at JUST Italy, their rate so far is around 6%. That would be 300X more fatal than H1N1.
However, if we ever get a handle on the number of infections, nCOV could be a lot lower. The big bugaboo right now is that we seem to have a lot of people running around as asymptomatic carriers. They infect a lot of the people they touch and they don't even know they've got it. If that number is huge, then the fatality rate "could" be a lot lower. The people who study this seem to think we're going to end up in the 1-2 percent range for nCOV, but no one really knows. If the number ends up being closer to 1%, it would still be 50X worse than H1N1.

bp


On 3/10/2020 6:08 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:




Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus I'll be the first to admit my memory isn't the best.  But we have been down this road before.  I do recall H1N1 as a distant memory.  So, I googled it to jog my memory.  H1N1 happen in 2009. When all was said and done per the CDC "From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus."

Some observations between then and now

1. I don't recall wide spread panic.  I'm I just not remembering the run on toilet paper, cleaners, H2O, etc.  I'm sure there were some functions cancelled and sporadic school closures, but did schools like Harvard cancel classes?

2. Social media wasn't a big thing back then.  Didn't have 10's of thousands of social media experts telling us what to think.

3. Politics.  H1N1 happened right after Obama was elected.  Right or left leading, you have to admit he was still in his honeymoon period.  He could do no wrong.  Press was VERY much on his side.  Hell, he even got a Nobel Peace prize in 2009.  Compare that to now.  Election year.  Press hates the current president.  Economy needs to be destroyed.


How did we survive back then?  CDC reports over 350,000 people world wide died due to H1N1.  Is this virus that much worst than H1N1?


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
  


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Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 7:32:33 PM, you wrote:





If you figure out a solution to the belief that beliefs trump facts, please let all of us know so we can help apply the fix.



On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:36 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:




If you know someone who doesn’t understand why canceled events and self-quarantines save lives, here’s a good explainer, with all facts and no politics:
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation

(yes, I know some people think facts are political, but I don’t have an answer to that)

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 7:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

You are much kinder...I call the top politicians on this response completely inept.  You can't frickin tweet this away. 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 5:46 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:




I just watched the news conference on the TV.
IMHO, VP Pence and the medical experts did a decent job, except when Pence had to engage in ritual sucking up to his

Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

2020-03-10 Thread Mark Radabaugh

17G tonight versus 15G normally.   A couple of big game updates out today.

Mark 

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:
> 
> Andreas,
> 
> We are actually running lower than usual tonight.  Almost by 50%, odd...
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
> 
> 
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com 
> 
> --
> 
> Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 9:14:27 PM, you wrote:
> 
>  <>
> 
> Anyone seen an unusual spike in usage tonight?  We are using almost 1Gbps 
> more than usual.  Just seeing if I’m the only one… It’s really strange.
>
> Internet.
> Phone.
> TV.
> Andreas Wiatowski
> CEO/Founder
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Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

2020-03-10 Thread Zach Underwood

It is mostly like a call of duty update, new free to play game dropped
today.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:27 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> One province over, usage for us is on the high side but I wouldn't call it
> unusual. Some big game updates or a popular new series on Netflix probably.
>
> I thought that Silo was disappearing into the Xplornet fold? Andreas, you
> need to buy and retire to an island on the lakes.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:15 PM Andreas Wiatowski  wrote:
>
>> Anyone seen an unusual spike in usage tonight?  We are using almost 1Gbps
>> more than usual.  Just seeing if I’m the only one… It’s really strange.
>> Internet.
>> Phone.
>> TV.
>> Andreas Wiatowski
>> CEO/Founder
>> Silo
>> *1-866-727-4138, ext 600* <1-866-727-4138,%20ext%20600>
>>  |
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Re: [AFMUG] bad word

2020-03-10 Thread Steve Jones

You're not tricking me with dilbert. Fucking dilbert. It's not like you can
just go read one comic and walk away, you just click the arrow one more
time, till you realize your phone battery is dead. Not today, satan, not
today

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:11 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> https://dilbert.com/strip/1990-04-22
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> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:03 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bad word
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> I find all uses of the word dick acceptable, you dick
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>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 7:45 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
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> I used the phrase “every Tom, Dick and Harry” in a post on a Cambium
> Community forum, and was warned by the forum software that I had used a
> “bad word” and required to “clean up” my post.
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> Reminds me of a joke involving Dewey, Nixon and Truman, and the punchline
> “do you expect me to see every Tom, Dick and Harry who walks into my
> office?”
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>
>
> But seriously, you can’t say Dick anymore?  What if I tried to post about
> Dick’s Sporting Goods?  Or if Chuck posted a photo of him eating Spotted
> Dick on his last trip to England?  I assume saying someone was acting like
> a dick would be totally unacceptable.  Could I say someone was acting like
> a Karen?
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Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

2020-03-10 Thread Colin Stanners

One province over, usage for us is on the high side but I wouldn't call it
unusual. Some big game updates or a popular new series on Netflix probably.

I thought that Silo was disappearing into the Xplornet fold? Andreas, you
need to buy and retire to an island on the lakes.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:15 PM Andreas Wiatowski  wrote:

> Anyone seen an unusual spike in usage tonight?  We are using almost 1Gbps
> more than usual.  Just seeing if I’m the only one… It’s really strange.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-10 Thread Bill Prince

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

  
  
The difference is the fatality rate. While 12,469 deaths sounds
  horrible, it only amounts to a 0.02% fatality rate (assuming the
  60 million infection number).

As far as we know (until we get better numbers on the total
  number of cases, nCOV is hitting right around 3.4 to 3.6 % fatal.
  If that rate holds, nCOV is 175X more fatal than H1N1.
If you look at JUST Italy, their rate so far is
  around 6%. That would be 300X more fatal than H1N1.
However, if we ever get a handle on the number of infections,
  nCOV could be a lot lower. The big bugaboo right now is that we
  seem to have a lot of people running around as asymptomatic
  carriers. They infect a lot of the people they touch and they
  don't even know they've got it. If that number is huge, then the
  fatality rate "could" be a lot lower. The people who study this
  seem to think we're going to end up in the 1-2 percent range for
  nCOV, but no one really knows. If the number ends up being closer
  to 1%, it would still be 50X worse than H1N1.



bp



On 3/10/2020 6:08 PM, Mark - Myakka
  Technologies wrote:


  
  
  I'll be
the first to admit my memory isn't the best.  But we have been
down this road before.  I do recall H1N1 as a distant memory.
 So, I googled it to jog my memory.  H1N1 happen in 2009. When
all was said and done per the CDC "From April 12, 2009 to April
10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range:
43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range:
195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the
United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus."

Some observations between then and now

1. I don't recall wide spread panic.  I'm I just not remembering
the run on toilet paper, cleaners, H2O, etc.  I'm sure there
were some functions cancelled and sporadic school closures, but
did schools like Harvard cancel classes?

2. Social media wasn't a big thing back then.  Didn't have 10's
of thousands of social media experts telling us what to think.

3. Politics.  H1N1 happened right after Obama was elected.
 Right or left leading, you have to admit he was still in his
honeymoon period.  He could do no wrong.  Press was VERY much on
his side.  Hell, he even got a Nobel Peace prize in 2009.
 Compare that to now.  Election year.  Press hates the current
president.  Economy needs to be destroyed.


How did we survive back then?  CDC reports over 350,000 people
world wide died due to H1N1.  Is this virus that much worst than
H1N1?


  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
     


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Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 7:32:33 PM, you wrote:


  
  

  


If you figure out a solution to the belief that
beliefs trump facts, please let all of us know so we can
help apply the fix.



On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:36 AM Ken Hohhof 
wrote:
  
  

  


If you know someone who doesn’t
understand why canceled events and
self-quarantines save lives, here’s a good
explainer, with all facts and no politics:
  https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation
  
  (yes, I know some people think
facts are political, but I don’t have an answer
to that)

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 7:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

You are much kinder...I call the top politicians
on this response completely inept.  You can't
frickin tweet this away. 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 5:46 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

2020-03-10 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage


Andreas,

We are actually running lower than usual tonight.  Almost by 50%, odd...

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Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 9:14:27 PM, you wrote:






Anyone seen an unusual spike in usage tonight?  We are using almost 1Gbps more than usual.  Just seeing if I’m the only one… It’s really strange.













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