Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Robert]

at 70 percent you better just wave the aloe over it because that is 
going to need to be the end concentration to be an effective solution...


On 3/28/20 9:13 PM, Doug Hass wrote:
Both of my local CVS stores have 70%. The higher percentage stuff is 
really difficult to find.


For disinfectants, incidentally, vet supply companies have tons of 
supply if you are running short of Lysol/etc. Stericide and other 
brands are even still available on Amazon.


El El sáb, mar. 28, 2020 a la(s) 9:50 p. m., Tushar Patel 
mailto:tpa...@ecpi.com>> escribió:


I want to know the same.

Tushar



On Mar 28, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:



Where are people finding masks, gloves, and sanitizer gel or wipes?

Seems like none available online, and I don’t want to drive to a
dozen stores hoping to find some on the shelf.

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:28 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

Chuck, we came up with a very similar approach. No shared trucks,
no shared spaces like lunchrooms, our office building only has
3-4 employees in a 3200 sqft building with 4 restrooms so we are
assigning a restroom to each person and literally zero contact,
call them on the phone if you need something. OSP guys working
solo as much as possible. We are providing masks, gloves,
sanitizer for the techs with customer contact and avoiding
in-home work as much as possible although some amount is
unavoidable. I set up SMS on our office number so we can ask
customers text us a photo of your router, cords, cable you just
cut in the yard etc.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I have stepped up our response to this at work.

Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.

1) Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift
employees.

2) PCB production stays in their part of the building.

3) Fabrication stay in their part of the building.

4) Avoid the lunchroom.

5) OSP construction one person per truck.

6) Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.

7) Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much
slower but safer.

8) More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.

Anything I can add?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Ken Hohhof]

For field techs working at customer sites, I think my first priority would be 
probably be disposable gloves, like nitrile exam gloves.

 

Surgical masks would mainly be to reassume customers we won’t cough on them.  
Wipes might be helpful for wiping down surfaces, phones, etc.  I’ve also seen 
people using them to open doors.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Doug Hass
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:13 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

 

Both of my local CVS stores have 70%. The higher percentage stuff is really 
difficult to find.

 

For disinfectants, incidentally, vet supply companies have tons of supply if 
you are running short of Lysol/etc. Stericide and other brands are even still 
available on Amazon.

 

El El sáb, mar. 28, 2020 a la(s) 9:50 p. m., Tushar Patel mailto:tpa...@ecpi.com> > escribió:

I want to know the same.

Tushar

 





On Mar 28, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:



Where are people finding masks, gloves, and sanitizer gel or wipes?

 

Seems like none available online, and I don’t want to drive to a dozen stores 
hoping to find some on the shelf.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chris Fabien
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

 

 

Chuck, we came up with a very similar approach. No shared trucks, no shared 
spaces like lunchrooms, our office building only has 3-4 employees in a 3200 
sqft building with 4 restrooms so we are assigning a restroom to each person 
and literally zero contact, call them on the phone if you need something. OSP 
guys working solo as much as possible. We are providing masks, gloves, 
sanitizer for the techs with customer contact and avoiding in-home work as much 
as possible although some amount is unavoidable. I set up SMS on our office 
number so we can ask customers text us a photo of your router, cords, cable you 
just cut in the yard etc. 

 

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

I have stepped up our response to this at work.

Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.

 

1)Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift employees.

2)PCB production stays in their part of the building.

3)Fabrication stay in their part of the building.

4)Avoid the lunchroom.

5)OSP construction one person per truck.

6)Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.

7)Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower but safer.

8)More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Thank god the original cord grip was a PITA

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:42 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Yes, at least they did on the 3 GHz version.  My guess would be they also
> did on the 5 GHz version but old stock would have to be flushed out first,
> that’s just my guess though.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:46 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy
>
>
>
> did they change the cord grip yet for the Ethernet cable?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 6:48 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> If I understand the question, the answer is yes.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:25 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy
>
>
>
> Is it aligned with the plane of the signal, like could you attach an
> inclinometer to it?
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:01 PM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy
>
>
>
> The new version 450b high gain has an added vertical post sticking up from
> the plastic housing on the rear.
>
>
>
> Anybody know what this is for?  Just curious.
>
>
>
> (I don’t know if the equivalent ePMP Force radios have this.)
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Doug Hass]

Both of my local CVS stores have 70%. The higher percentage stuff is really
difficult to find.

For disinfectants, incidentally, vet supply companies have tons of supply
if you are running short of Lysol/etc. Stericide and other brands are even
still available on Amazon.

El El sáb, mar. 28, 2020 a la(s) 9:50 p. m., Tushar Patel 
escribió:

> I want to know the same.
>
> Tushar
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Where are people finding masks, gloves, and sanitizer gel or wipes?
>
>
>
> Seems like none available online, and I don’t want to drive to a dozen
> stores hoping to find some on the shelf.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chris Fabien
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:28 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuck, we came up with a very similar approach. No shared trucks, no
> shared spaces like lunchrooms, our office building only has 3-4 employees
> in a 3200 sqft building with 4 restrooms so we are assigning a restroom to
> each person and literally zero contact, call them on the phone if you need
> something. OSP guys working solo as much as possible. We are providing
> masks, gloves, sanitizer for the techs with customer contact and avoiding
> in-home work as much as possible although some amount is unavoidable. I set
> up SMS on our office number so we can ask customers text us a photo of your
> router, cords, cable you just cut in the yard etc.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM  wrote:
>
> I have stepped up our response to this at work.
>
> Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
>
>
>
> 1)Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift employees.
>
> 2)PCB production stays in their part of the building.
>
> 3)Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
>
> 4)Avoid the lunchroom.
>
> 5)OSP construction one person per truck.
>
> 6)Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
>
> 7)Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower but
> safer.
>
> 8)More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
>
>
>
> Anything I can add?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] AF11 custom combiner

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Don't know if i had something else going on but my AF11 link that was
showing 650mbps in the interface was never able to pass more than about
500mbps, switched to Aviat and wow 1.4bps full duplex is freaking amazing.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:58 AM Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> I messed up that last email. We're upgrading three AF11 links with Aviat
> this spring. We'll move the AF11 links to other towers that could use more
> than the 5ghz backhauls are providing.
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 11:56 PM Darin Steffl 
> wrote:
>
>> Do what Kurt is doing and what I'm fine, replace the AF11 with aviat in
>> same channels. The increase is from 650mb full duplex to 1400mb full
>> duplex.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 3:24 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a circulator and BPF style.  "Should" work great with very
>>> little
>>> loss.
>>> But expensive.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:18 PM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: AF11 custom combiner
>>>
>>> This is the hybrid combiner version.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:06 PM
>>> To: Nate Burke ; af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: AF11 custom combiner
>>>
>>> Now that I think about it, this will not work without sharp bandpass
>>> filters
>>> on the transmitters.
>>> To do what I have drawn here without the filters you would need a hybrid
>>> combiner on the TX and you will lose another 3 dB in that.
>>>
>>> So 6 dB loss over all from one end to the other.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:00 PM
>>> To: Nate Burke ; af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: AF11 custom combiner
>>>
>>> Nate, I am posting this to the list too.  Want to see if I made a mistake
>>> here.  I don't have a ton of experience with the internals of the AF11.
>>> I think each diplexer feeds a TX and an RX right?
>>> Not sure how good the RX input filters are.  So I used a splitter rather
>>> than circulators.
>>>
>>> Circulators would have less loss but you have to have a pretty sharp
>>> bandpass filter on the front of the receivers to do that trick.
>>> You could add the filters.
>>>
>>> Not sure this will work without TX filters too but I think it will.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Nate Burke
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:15 AM
>>> To: ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> Subject: Re: Re: AF11 custom combiner
>>>
>>> Both paths are dual polarity v/h
>>> SiteA
>>> Radio1 TX 11505
>>> Radio2 TX 11225
>>>
>>> SiteB
>>> Radio1 TX 11015
>>> Radio2 TX 10735
>>>
>>> Those are different Diplexers on the AF11 Radios  11015x11505 is the
>>> high diplexer  11225x10735 is the low diplexer.  If they were just
>>> single pol licenses, I'm already doing that with 2 radios on 1 AF11
>>> dish, one radio on V one radio on H.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nate
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/25/2020 12:07 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> > 10735 is pretty close to 11015.  Would these be tx frequencies?
>>> > Need to know what is RX and what is TX at this site.  Also what is on
>>> what
>>> > polarization.
>>> > -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, March 25,
>>> > 2020 10:55 AM To: ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: AF11 custom combiner
>>> > The boss is asking the questions, and in his mind it should be as
>>> simple
>>> > as wire-nutting the 3 coax's together.  So I have to follow up with why
>>> > that won't work and present a solution for him.
>>> >
>>> > Channels we have are
>>> > 11505x11015 (high)
>>> > 11225x10735 (low)
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Nate
>>> >
>>> > On 3/25/2020 11:10 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> >> Yes, you can do that and it is lossy.
>>> >> Circulators and splitters are frequently used.
>>> >> Being high/low licenses makes things a bit more difficult.
>>> >>
>>> >> If you can give me details as to what radios and frequencies you want
>>> to
>>> >> put on the AF11 dish I can think on it a bit.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:44 AM
>>> >> To: Chuck McCown
>>> >> Subject: AF11 custom combiner
>>> >>
>>> >> Chuck, We've been using your AF11 REMEC adapters in a couple places.
>>> I
>>> >> have a location where I can't physically add another Dish, but I do
>>> have
>>> >> 2 licensed channels to the site.  1 high band and 1 low band. Is there
>>> >> a way to combine 2 dual band radios onto the same dish?  I already
>>> have
>>> >> the AF11 dish installed, so if there was just a way to do a
>>> >> splitter/combiner with the N Connectors, that would be ideal.  I
>>> didn't
>>> >> know if such a beast existed, or if it was something in your
>>> >> engineering/production toolbag, or if it's technically impossible.
>>> >> Maybe using the Coax would be too much loss, and the only way to do it
>>> >> would be with a feedhorn combiner, and the remec adapters.  I thought
>>> >> this might be something that you would just know off the top of your
>>> >> head.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy

[Kurt Fankhauser]

did they change the cord grip yet for the Ethernet cable?

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 6:48 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> If I understand the question, the answer is yes.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:25 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy
>
>
>
> Is it aligned with the plane of the signal, like could you attach an
> inclinometer to it?
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:01 PM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy
>
>
>
> The new version 450b high gain has an added vertical post sticking up from
> the plastic housing on the rear.
>
>
>
> Anybody know what this is for?  Just curious.
>
>
>
> (I don’t know if the equivalent ePMP Force radios have this.)
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Tushar Patel]

I want to know the same.

Tushar


> On Mar 28, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> 
> Where are people finding masks, gloves, and sanitizer gel or wipes?
>  
> Seems like none available online, and I don’t want to drive to a dozen stores 
> hoping to find some on the shelf.
>  
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chris Fabien
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:28 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work
>  
>  
> Chuck, we came up with a very similar approach. No shared trucks, no shared 
> spaces like lunchrooms, our office building only has 3-4 employees in a 3200 
> sqft building with 4 restrooms so we are assigning a restroom to each person 
> and literally zero contact, call them on the phone if you need something. OSP 
> guys working solo as much as possible. We are providing masks, gloves, 
> sanitizer for the techs with customer contact and avoiding in-home work as 
> much as possible although some amount is unavoidable. I set up SMS on our 
> office number so we can ask customers text us a photo of your router, cords, 
> cable you just cut in the yard etc. 
>  
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM  wrote:
> I have stepped up our response to this at work.
> Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
>  
> 1)Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift employees.
> 2)PCB production stays in their part of the building.
> 3)Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
> 4)Avoid the lunchroom.
> 5)OSP construction one person per truck.
> 6)Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
> 7)Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower but 
> safer.
> 8)More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
>  
> Anything I can add?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Robert]

All cleared out of aloe out this way..   What percentage rubbing alcohol 
are you finding?


On 3/28/20 7:34 PM, Doug Hass wrote:
Make your own? I have had no problems finding rubbing alcohol and aloe 
vera gel. Easy and way less expensive.


El El sáb, mar. 28, 2020 a la(s) 9:06 p. m., Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> escribió:


Where are people finding masks, gloves, and sanitizer gel or wipes?

Seems like none available online, and I don’t want to drive to a
dozen stores hoping to find some on the shelf.

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:28 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

Chuck, we came up with a very similar approach. No shared trucks,
no shared spaces like lunchrooms, our office building only has 3-4
employees in a 3200 sqft building with 4 restrooms so we are
assigning a restroom to each person and literally zero contact,
call them on the phone if you need something. OSP guys working
solo as much as possible. We are providing masks, gloves,
sanitizer for the techs with customer contact and avoiding in-home
work as much as possible although some amount is unavoidable. I
set up SMS on our office number so we can ask customers text us a
photo of your router, cords, cable you just cut in the yard etc.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I have stepped up our response to this at work.

Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.

1) Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift
employees.

2) PCB production stays in their part of the building.

3) Fabrication stay in their part of the building.

4) Avoid the lunchroom.

5) OSP construction one person per truck.

6) Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.

7) Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much
slower but safer.

8) More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.

Anything I can add?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Doug Hass]

Make your own? I have had no problems finding rubbing alcohol and aloe vera
gel. Easy and way less expensive.

El El sáb, mar. 28, 2020 a la(s) 9:06 p. m., Ken Hohhof 
escribió:

> Where are people finding masks, gloves, and sanitizer gel or wipes?
>
>
>
> Seems like none available online, and I don’t want to drive to a dozen
> stores hoping to find some on the shelf.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chris Fabien
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:28 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuck, we came up with a very similar approach. No shared trucks, no
> shared spaces like lunchrooms, our office building only has 3-4 employees
> in a 3200 sqft building with 4 restrooms so we are assigning a restroom to
> each person and literally zero contact, call them on the phone if you need
> something. OSP guys working solo as much as possible. We are providing
> masks, gloves, sanitizer for the techs with customer contact and avoiding
> in-home work as much as possible although some amount is unavoidable. I set
> up SMS on our office number so we can ask customers text us a photo of your
> router, cords, cable you just cut in the yard etc.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM  wrote:
>
> I have stepped up our response to this at work.
>
> Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
>
>
>
> 1)Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift employees.
>
> 2)PCB production stays in their part of the building.
>
> 3)Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
>
> 4)Avoid the lunchroom.
>
> 5)OSP construction one person per truck.
>
> 6)Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
>
> 7)Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower but
> safer.
>
> 8)More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
>
>
>
> Anything I can add?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Ken Hohhof]

Where are people finding masks, gloves, and sanitizer gel or wipes?

 

Seems like none available online, and I don’t want to drive to a dozen stores 
hoping to find some on the shelf.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chris Fabien
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

 

 

Chuck, we came up with a very similar approach. No shared trucks, no shared 
spaces like lunchrooms, our office building only has 3-4 employees in a 3200 
sqft building with 4 restrooms so we are assigning a restroom to each person 
and literally zero contact, call them on the phone if you need something. OSP 
guys working solo as much as possible. We are providing masks, gloves, 
sanitizer for the techs with customer contact and avoiding in-home work as much 
as possible although some amount is unavoidable. I set up SMS on our office 
number so we can ask customers text us a photo of your router, cords, cable you 
just cut in the yard etc. 

 

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

I have stepped up our response to this at work.

Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.

 

1)Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift employees.

2)PCB production stays in their part of the building.

3)Fabrication stay in their part of the building.

4)Avoid the lunchroom.

5)OSP construction one person per truck.

6)Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.

7)Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower but safer.

8)More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Chris Fabien]

Chuck, we came up with a very similar approach. No shared trucks, no shared
spaces like lunchrooms, our office building only has 3-4 employees in a
3200 sqft building with 4 restrooms so we are assigning a restroom to each
person and literally zero contact, call them on the phone if you need
something. OSP guys working solo as much as possible. We are providing
masks, gloves, sanitizer for the techs with customer contact and avoiding
in-home work as much as possible although some amount is unavoidable. I set
up SMS on our office number so we can ask customers text us a photo of your
router, cords, cable you just cut in the yard etc.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM  wrote:

> I have stepped up our response to this at work.
> Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
>
> 1)Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift employees.
> 2)PCB production stays in their part of the building.
> 3)Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
> 4)Avoid the lunchroom.
> 5)OSP construction one person per truck.
> 6)Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
> 7)Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower but
> safer.
> 8)More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
>
> Anything I can add?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT A gamble

[chuck]

Their newly approved covid test is a 5 minute result and the test cartridge 
fits the machines in use everywhere. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/28/coronavirus-fda-authorizes-abbott-labs-fast-portable-covid-test/2932766001/
From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT A gamble

Life long friend just retired from there...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 5:52 PM  wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] OT A gamble

[Jaime Solorza]

Life long friend just retired from there...

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy

[Ken Hohhof]

If I understand the question, the answer is yes.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:25 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy

 

Is it aligned with the plane of the signal, like could you attach an 
inclinometer to it?

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:01 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy

 

The new version 450b high gain has an added vertical post sticking up from the 
plastic housing on the rear.

 

Anybody know what this is for?  Just curious.

 

(I don’t know if the equivalent ePMP Force radios have this.)

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Ken Hohhof]

Referring to vaccine enhanced disease, where the disease is much worse if you 
still get it after receiving the vaccine?  Yeah, that would be ungood.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00798-8

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:06 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

 

They have rushed vaccines into human trials in Seattle with people volunteering 
to be test subjects.   Probably did not get presented with the results of some 
of the early vaccines results for the original SARS when the testees were 
exposed and had way worse results that the control group...

On 3/28/20 2:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

New York has FDA approval to start using an antibody test to identify people 
who had it, recovered, and may be immune.  This may be a key to determining who 
can safely go back to work.

 

Abbott has announced a test that can identify positives in 5 minutes.  Wider 
testing may be key to a more nuanced distancing protocol, people who test 
positive would need stricter isolation than those who test negative.  I suspect 
the current measures are not very effective stopping spread within families.

 

New York is also trialing “convalescent plasma” as a treatment.

 

I haven’t heard much about attempts to approve a vaccine in less than 18 
months.  You’d think there could be some hope that could be accelerated, a 
certain amount of risk tolerance might be warranted.  Otherwise we’re relying 
on recoveries for immunity.

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

 

What's missing in estimating the death rate / ICU rate is the denominator of 
how many infections there actually are.

 

Arguably the best dataset we have at the moment is Iceland.  They have tested 
the highest % of population including people without symptoms.  This is 
possible because they don't have a huge population.  ;-)

 

https://www.icelandreview.com/ask-ir/whats-the-status-of-covid-19-in-iceland/

 

Still, they have tested the highest percent and they are showing at the moment 
a .2% death rate, .6% ICU rate, 2% overall hospitalization rate.

 

While these are much better numbers than other estimates are saying, there's 
still some challenges here - the main one being that a .6% ICU rate, while not 
so large, is still too many to handle if they happen all at once compared to 
the number of currently open ICU beds in most places.

 

This also points to a reality that we probably have a much, much higher number 
of infections.  I, for one, am encouraged that the actual fatality rate may be 
much lower than we are hearing.  But this thing moves fast and you have 
something like 50% with mild or no symptoms that can spread it for 14 days (vs. 
something like 4 days for flu).  That a long time to spread the love around.

 

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

With all of two deaths in Utah we are running a .4% death rate.  

I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away.

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

 

This is another perspective referred to in this article called "Hammer and 
Dance". It outlines what the various options and probable outcomes might be. It 
does get into the weeds somewhat.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

 

bp

 

On 3/28/2020 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

This is an interesting article:

 

 
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

 

Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the initial peak 
is over.  

Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into that cycle.  

 


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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy

[chuck]

Is it aligned with the plane of the signal, like could you attach an 
inclinometer to it?

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:01 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b mystery thingy

The new version 450b high gain has an added vertical post sticking up from the 
plastic housing on the rear.

 

Anybody know what this is for?  Just curious.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Robert]

They have rushed vaccines into human trials in Seattle with people 
volunteering to be test subjects.   Probably did not get presented with 
the results of some of the early vaccines results for the original SARS 
when the testees were exposed and had way worse results that the control 
group...


On 3/28/20 2:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


New York has FDA approval to start using an antibody test to identify 
people who had it, recovered, and may be immune.  This may be a key to 
determining who can safely go back to work.


Abbott has announced a test that can identify positives in 5 minutes.  
Wider testing may be key to a more nuanced distancing protocol, people 
who test positive would need stricter isolation than those who test 
negative.  I suspect the current measures are not very effective 
stopping spread within families.


New York is also trialing “convalescent plasma” as a treatment.

I haven’t heard much about attempts to approve a vaccine in less than 
18 months.  You’d think there could be some hope that could be 
accelerated, a certain amount of risk tolerance might be warranted.  
Otherwise we’re relying on recoveries for immunity.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe
*Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:41 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

What's missing in estimating the death rate / ICU rate is the 
denominator of how many infections there actually are.


Arguably the best dataset we have at the moment is Iceland.  They have 
tested the highest % of population including people without symptoms.  
This is possible because they don't have a huge population.  ;-)


https://www.icelandreview.com/ask-ir/whats-the-status-of-covid-19-in-iceland/

Still, they have tested the highest percent and they are showing at 
the moment a .2% death rate, .6% ICU rate, 2% overall hospitalization 
rate.


While these are much better numbers than other estimates are saying, 
there's still some challenges here - the main one being that a .6% ICU 
rate, while not so large, is still too many to handle if they happen 
all at once compared to the number of currently open ICU beds in most 
places.


This also points to a reality that we probably have a much, much 
higher number of infections. I, for one, am encouraged that the actual 
fatality rate may be much lower than we are hearing.  But this thing 
moves fast and you have something like 50% with mild or no symptoms 
that can spread it for 14 days (vs. something like 4 days for flu).  
That a long time to spread the love around.


On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM > wrote:


With all of two deaths in Utah we are running a .4% death rate.

I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away.

*From:*Bill Prince

*Sent:*Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM

*To:*af@af.afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

This is another perspective referred to in this article called
"Hammer and Dance". It outlines what the various options and
probable outcomes might be. It does get into the weeds somewhat.


https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

bp



On 3/28/2020 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com  wrote:

This is an interesting article:


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after
the initial peak is over.

Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Robert]

Iceland looks like a "what it could be" positive result. vs. overwhelmed 
ICU's an short on ventilators negative result.   So IF we had the 
necessary number of ventilators we could expect this. Unfortunately we 
don't and so the results here are going to be worse.  How worse will 
depend upon social isolation working.
 Sure doesn't make me feel good seeing Reno looking at this to send 
all the construction crews out working on the roads and creating a new 
vector of spread...   "Oh yeah this is really bad, but let us just take 
advantage of this and ignore the risk we are creating"   So much FU 
going around...


On 3/28/20 1:40 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:
What's missing in estimating the death rate / ICU rate is the 
denominator of how many infections there actually are.


Arguably the best dataset we have at the moment is Iceland.  They have 
tested the highest % of population including people without symptoms.  
This is possible because they don't have a huge population.  ;-)


https://www.icelandreview.com/ask-ir/whats-the-status-of-covid-19-in-iceland/

Still, they have tested the highest percent and they are showing at 
the moment a .2% death rate, .6% ICU rate, 2% overall hospitalization 
rate.


While these are much better numbers than other estimates are saying, 
there's still some challenges here - the main one being that a .6% ICU 
rate, while not so large, is still too many to handle if they happen 
all at once compared to the number of currently open ICU beds in most 
places.


This also points to a reality that we probably have a much, much 
higher number of infections.  I, for one, am encouraged that the 
actual fatality rate may be much lower than we are hearing.  But this 
thing moves fast and you have something like 50% with mild or no 
symptoms that can spread it for 14 days (vs. something like 4 days for 
flu).  That a long time to spread the love around.


On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM > wrote:


With all of two deaths in Utah we are running a .4% death rate.
I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

This is another perspective referred to in this article called
"Hammer and Dance". It outlines what the various options and
probable outcomes might be. It does get into the weeds somewhat.


https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

bp


On 3/28/2020 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

This is an interesting article:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/
Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after
the initial peak is over.
Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Bill Prince]

  
  
In the segment they did on 60 minutes last Sunday, they
  interviewed two companies working on different strategies for a
  vaccine. The consensus was 12-18 months best case (at least that
  was my take on it).
bp



On 3/28/2020 2:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
New York has FDA approval to start using an
  antibody test to identify people who had it, recovered, and
  may be immune.  This may be a key to determining who can
  safely go back to work.
 
Abbott has announced a test that can
  identify positives in 5 minutes.  Wider testing may be key to
  a more nuanced distancing protocol, people who test positive
  would need stricter isolation than those who test negative.  I
  suspect the current measures are not very effective stopping
  spread within families.
 
New York is also trialing “convalescent
  plasma” as a treatment.
 
I haven’t heard much about attempts to
  approve a vaccine in less than 18 months.  You’d think there
  could be some hope that could be accelerated, a certain amount
  of risk tolerance might be warranted.  Otherwise we’re relying
  on recoveries for immunity.
 
From: AF
   On Behalf Of Harold
  Bledsoe
  Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:41 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics
 

  What's missing in estimating the death
rate / ICU rate is the denominator of how many infections
there actually are.
  
 
  
  
Arguably the best dataset we have at
  the moment is Iceland.  They have tested the highest % of
  population including people without symptoms.  This is
  possible because they don't have a huge population.  ;-)
  
  
 
  
  
https://www.icelandreview.com/ask-ir/whats-the-status-of-covid-19-in-iceland/
  
  
 
  
  
Still, they have tested the highest
  percent and they are showing at the moment a .2% death
  rate, .6% ICU rate, 2% overall hospitalization rate.
  
  
 
  
  
While these are much better numbers
  than other estimates are saying, there's still some
  challenges here - the main one being that a .6% ICU rate,
  while not so large, is still too many to handle if they
  happen all at once compared to the number of currently
  open ICU beds in most places.
  
  
 
  
  
This also points to a reality that we
  probably have a much, much higher number of infections. 
  I, for one, am encouraged that the actual fatality rate
  may be much lower than we are hearing.  But this thing
  moves fast and you have something like 50% with mild or no
  symptoms that can spread it for 14 days (vs. something
  like 4 days for flu).  That a long time to spread the love
  around.
  

 

  
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM 
  wrote:
  
  

  

  
With all of
two deaths in Utah we are running a .4% death
rate.  
  
  
I am
guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks
away.
  
  

  
 
  
  

  From:
  Bill Prince 


  Sent:
  Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM


  To:
  af@af.afmug.com
  


  Subject:
  Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

  


   

  
  
This
is another perspective referred to in this
article called "Hammer and Dance". It outlines

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Ken Hohhof]

New York has FDA approval to start using an antibody test to identify people 
who had it, recovered, and may be immune.  This may be a key to determining who 
can safely go back to work.

 

Abbott has announced a test that can identify positives in 5 minutes.  Wider 
testing may be key to a more nuanced distancing protocol, people who test 
positive would need stricter isolation than those who test negative.  I suspect 
the current measures are not very effective stopping spread within families.

 

New York is also trialing “convalescent plasma” as a treatment.

 

I haven’t heard much about attempts to approve a vaccine in less than 18 
months.  You’d think there could be some hope that could be accelerated, a 
certain amount of risk tolerance might be warranted.  Otherwise we’re relying 
on recoveries for immunity.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

 

What's missing in estimating the death rate / ICU rate is the denominator of 
how many infections there actually are.

 

Arguably the best dataset we have at the moment is Iceland.  They have tested 
the highest % of population including people without symptoms.  This is 
possible because they don't have a huge population.  ;-)

 

https://www.icelandreview.com/ask-ir/whats-the-status-of-covid-19-in-iceland/

 

Still, they have tested the highest percent and they are showing at the moment 
a .2% death rate, .6% ICU rate, 2% overall hospitalization rate.

 

While these are much better numbers than other estimates are saying, there's 
still some challenges here - the main one being that a .6% ICU rate, while not 
so large, is still too many to handle if they happen all at once compared to 
the number of currently open ICU beds in most places.

 

This also points to a reality that we probably have a much, much higher number 
of infections.  I, for one, am encouraged that the actual fatality rate may be 
much lower than we are hearing.  But this thing moves fast and you have 
something like 50% with mild or no symptoms that can spread it for 14 days (vs. 
something like 4 days for flu).  That a long time to spread the love around.

 

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

With all of two deaths in Utah we are running a .4% death rate.  

I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away.

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

 

This is another perspective referred to in this article called "Hammer and 
Dance". It outlines what the various options and probable outcomes might be. It 
does get into the weeds somewhat.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

 

bp

 

On 3/28/2020 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

This is an interesting article:

 

 
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

 

Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the initial peak 
is over.  

Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into that cycle.  

 


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Several troubling aspects to this. The percent of false negatives
  and false positives seems extremely high. And asymptomatic
  carriers do not count as a "case".
  
  https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive


bp



On 3/28/2020 1:40 PM, Harold Bledsoe
  wrote:


  
  What's missing in estimating the death rate / ICU
rate is the denominator of how many infections there actually
are.


Arguably the best dataset we have at the moment is
  Iceland.  They have tested the highest % of population
  including people without symptoms.  This is possible because
  they don't have a huge population.  ;-)


https://www.icelandreview.com/ask-ir/whats-the-status-of-covid-19-in-iceland/



Still, they have tested the highest percent and they are
  showing at the moment a .2% death rate, .6% ICU rate, 2%
  overall hospitalization rate.


While these are much better numbers than other estimates
  are saying, there's still some challenges here - the main one
  being that a .6% ICU rate, while not so large, is still too
  many to handle if they happen all at once compared to the
  number of currently open ICU beds in most places.


This also points to a reality that we probably have a much,
  much higher number of infections.  I, for one, am encouraged
  that the actual fatality rate may be much lower than we are
  hearing.  But this thing moves fast and you have something
  like 50% with mild or no symptoms that can spread it for 14
  days (vs. something like 4 days for flu).  That a long time to
  spread the love around.
  
  
  
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:46
  AM 
  wrote:


  

  
With all of two deaths in Utah we are running a .4%
  death rate.  
I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks
  away.

  
 

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

  
   


  This is another perspective referred to in this
article called "Hammer and Dance". It outlines what
the various options and probable outcomes might be.
It does get into the weeds somewhat.
  https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56
   
  bp



  On 3/28/2020 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
wrote:
  
  

  
This is an interesting article:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/
 
Note the double boom if you relax your
  social distancing after the initial peak is
  over.  
Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We
  are 2.5 weeks into that cycle.  
  



  
  
  
  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Harold Bledsoe]

What's missing in estimating the death rate / ICU rate is the denominator
of how many infections there actually are.

Arguably the best dataset we have at the moment is Iceland.  They have
tested the highest % of population including people without symptoms.  This
is possible because they don't have a huge population.  ;-)

https://www.icelandreview.com/ask-ir/whats-the-status-of-covid-19-in-iceland/

Still, they have tested the highest percent and they are showing at the
moment a .2% death rate, .6% ICU rate, 2% overall hospitalization rate.

While these are much better numbers than other estimates are saying,
there's still some challenges here - the main one being that a .6% ICU
rate, while not so large, is still too many to handle if they happen all at
once compared to the number of currently open ICU beds in most places.

This also points to a reality that we probably have a much, much higher
number of infections.  I, for one, am encouraged that the actual fatality
rate may be much lower than we are hearing.  But this thing moves fast and
you have something like 50% with mild or no symptoms that can spread it for
14 days (vs. something like 4 days for flu).  That a long time to spread
the love around.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM  wrote:

> With all of two deaths in Utah we are running a .4% death rate.
> I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics
>
>
> This is another perspective referred to in this article called "Hammer and
> Dance". It outlines what the various options and probable outcomes might
> be. It does get into the weeds somewhat.
>
>
> https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/28/2020 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> This is an interesting article:
>
> https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/
>
> Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the initial
> peak is over.
> Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into that
> cycle.
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Re: [AFMUG] clutter data and drones

[Dan Spitler]

https://www.quantumspatial.com/

On Friday, March 27, 2020, Steve Jones  wrote:

> reviving this one
>
> where all would a guy go if he wanted to get pricing on fresh data
> collection? ie hiring one of these drone/blimp/plane firms?
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:57 PM Chuck Hogg 
> wrote:
>
>> Nice, I was curious if any Common people would be on here.  Welcome to
>> the farm, where pigs fly.
>>
>> Best Regards, Chuck Hogg   |  *SVP/Director of Acquisitions*
>> *ALL POINTS* *BROADBAND *| *Live Connected.*
>> mobile  502.435.6649
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 6:11 PM Dan Spitler  wrote:
>>
>>> Just to chime in here: Nearmap is doing yearly, higher-res
>>> photogrammetry captures of major (sub)urban areas across the US. You can
>>> purchase pre-rendered surface models from which you can do all sorts of fun
>>> things with.
>>> Also, Google's SAS program has a network planner included which allows
>>> you to get elevation profiles *with* clutter using the same data as seen on
>>> Google Earth. My only problem with it is it only does low-rez RF
>>> propagation (no simple viewesheds) and the data is of unknown vintage.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:19 PM Chuck Hogg 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here's 2 examples of 2m vs 30m data as well for Google Earth.  If the
 list serv strips them, let me know.

 Look at the shadows created by buildings and trees as far as coverage
 goes in the 2M data.

 These are random locations in Louisville.  The City of Louisville
 released their data for free.



 On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 4:14 PM Chuck Hogg <
 ch...@allpointsbroadband.com> wrote:

> Also, check your states/counties/cities.  Some states have had
> initiatives to map this data.  The forestry fire service also maps this
> data.  There are also point clouds created with this data.  Ky for example
> has this data from 2013 to 2018.  The 2018 data is still being compiled.
> It's also free.  Virginia had whole portions of the state done in 2017.
>
> One good resource is:
> https://www.usgs.gov/core-science-systems/ngp/3dep
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 4:11 PM Chuck Hogg <
> ch...@allpointsbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> The LIDAR data processing for a 2M resolution of an OMNI on the
>> platform I'm using takes about 45-75 seconds.  The same 30M resolution is
>> typically a done in a second.  These are done using 10km radiuses
>> currently, but I'm increasing it to 20km.  As you know this will cause it
>> to be significantly heavier on the processing.  A geotiff file for one
>> access point using 2M data at 10km radius is about 18MB.  The same 
>> GeoTIFF
>> for 30M data is under 1MB.  30M is 900Meters squared.  2M is 4M squared.
>> Roughly 225x more datapoints in 2M.
>>
>> Best Regards, Chuck Hogg   |  *SVP/Director of Acquisitions*
>> *ALL POINTS* *BROADBAND *| *Live Connected.*
>> mobile  502.435.6649
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 3:45 PM Brian Webster <
>> i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I do not know the answer to that but I suspect that they are just
>>> using the images from multiple angles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>>
>>> Brian Webster
>>>
>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>
>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam
>>> Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2019 3:23 PM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] clutter data and drones
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/18/2019 3:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>> Does Google actually have LIDAR or are they just running the images
>>> that they collect from multiple angles through an algorithm to guess at 
>>> the
>>> obstructions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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>>> *From: *"Adam Moffett"  
>>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 18, 2019 1:53:10 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] clutter data and drones
>>>
>>> Looks like 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Robert]

that could have prevented a lot of deaths on cruise ships...!! Nice!

On 3/28/20 11:23 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 3/28/20 10:16, Robert wrote:
Gloves and masks IF you have them.   Fresh air moving through the 
facilities and any rooms your team goes into, moving fresh air is one 
of the most powerful tools.  Make your own sanitizer. Wash hands 
every chance.  Wipe down surfaces before using them, gloves and 
diluted clorox mixture.



I'm installing UV-C lamps in ducts where the majority is recirculated 
air.





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[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/28/20 10:16, Robert wrote:
Gloves and masks IF you have them.   Fresh air moving through the 
facilities and any rooms your team goes into, moving fresh air is one of 
the most powerful tools.  Make your own sanitizer. Wash hands every 
chance.  Wipe down surfaces before using them, gloves and diluted clorox 
mixture.



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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Robert]

Now they( outside the US, just about everywhere ) they are saying use 
masks.   More than not touch, now.


On 3/28/20 8:57 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


Tell people to not touch their face. Points of entry are eyes, nose, 
and mouth. This is harder to do than you might think. If there is any 
good use for face masks, it is to train people to not touch their 
face. The mask does not need to be N95, it is more a training device 
than a protection device.


Also, wash your hands (or sanitize) at every opportunity.

bp


On 3/28/2020 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I have stepped up our response to this at work.
Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
1)    Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift 
employees.

2)    PCB production stays in their part of the building.
3)    Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
4)    Avoid the lunchroom.
5)    OSP construction one person per truck.
6)    Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
7)    Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower 
but safer.

8)    More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Robert]

Gloves and masks IF you have them.   Fresh air moving through the 
facilities and any rooms your team goes into, moving fresh air is one of 
the most powerful tools.  Make your own sanitizer. Wash hands every 
chance.  Wipe down surfaces before using them, gloves and diluted clorox 
mixture.


On 3/28/20 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I have stepped up our response to this at work.
Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
1)    Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift 
employees.

2)    PCB production stays in their part of the building.
3)    Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
4)    Avoid the lunchroom.
5)    OSP construction one person per truck.
6)    Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
7)    Vac excavators will have to do it with one person. Much slower 
but safer.

8)    More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
Anything I can add?



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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Robert]

This is _optimistic_   Around April 15 for most everywhere in the US... 
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections?fbclid=IwAR3m66Dc-PAE0or9wTv8ZmLRwf2Y5dLp0HaLXzUGYk_ZTkh555hZvRp1xjQ


On 3/28/20 8:45 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

With all of two deaths in Utah we are running a .4% death rate.
I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

This is another perspective referred to in this article called "Hammer 
and Dance". It outlines what the various options and probable outcomes 
might be. It does get into the weeds somewhat.


https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

bp


On 3/28/2020 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

This is an interesting article:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/
Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the 
initial peak is over.
Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into that 
cycle.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Ken Hohhof]

That’s a lousy plan.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

 

We delouse everyone when they come to work in the mornings.  

 

From: Mathew Howard 

Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:37 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

 

You should do something about those lice...

 

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:29 AM James Howard mailto:ja...@litewire.net> > wrote:

You should be a comedian.{Grumble grumble as I scratch my head}

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

 

Lice! How many peoples heads started itching?

Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Tell people to not touch their face. Points of entry are eyes, nose, 
> and mouth. This is harder to do than you might think. If there is any 
> good use for face masks, it is to train people to not touch their 
> face. The mask does not need to be N95, it is more a training device 
> than a protection device.
>
> Also, wash your hands (or sanitize) at every opportunity.
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 3/28/2020 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:
>> I have stepped up our response to this at work.
>> Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
>> 1) Mechanic will work swing shift. No overlap with day shift 
>> employees.
>> 2) PCB production stays in their part of the building.
>> 3) Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
>> 4) Avoid the lunchroom.
>> 5) OSP construction one person per truck.
>> 6) Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
>> 7) Vac excavators will have to do it with one person. Much slower 
>> but safer.
>> 8) More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
>> Anything I can add?
>>
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Ken Hohhof]

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm planning to hang some licensed links.  Has anyone
worked out guidelines for tower climbers and ground crew?  We typically have
3 people, one on tower, one on ground sending up equipment by rope, maybe a
3rd person who could help on the ground or aloft.  Much of this doesn't
require being within 6 feet of each other, much involves wearing work
gloves, but I'm sure some changes in behavior will be needed.

 

Also might need everyone to drive separately to the site.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
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To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

 

Tell people to not touch their face. Points of entry are eyes, nose, and
mouth. This is harder to do than you might think. If there is any good use
for face masks, it is to train people to not touch their face. The mask does
not need to be N95, it is more a training device than a protection device.

Also, wash your hands (or sanitize) at every opportunity.

bp

 

On 3/28/2020 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

I have stepped up our response to this at work.

Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.

 

1)Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift employees.

2)PCB production stays in their part of the building.

3)Fabrication stay in their part of the building.

4)Avoid the lunchroom.

5)OSP construction one person per truck.

6)Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.

7)Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower but
safer.

8)More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[James Howard]

It's not lice that makes your head itch though, it's the thought of lice that 
does it..

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

We delouse everyone when they come to work in the mornings.

From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

You should do something about those lice...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:29 AM James Howard 
mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:
You should be a comedian.{Grumble grumble as I scratch my head}


From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
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Lice! How many peoples heads started itching?

Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Tell people to not touch their face. Points of entry are eyes, nose,
> and mouth. This is harder to do than you might think. If there is any
> good use for face masks, it is to train people to not touch their
> face. The mask does not need to be N95, it is more a training device
> than a protection device.
>
> Also, wash your hands (or sanitize) at every opportunity.
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 3/28/2020 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> I have stepped up our response to this at work.
>> Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
>> 1) Mechanic will work swing shift. No overlap with day shift
>> employees.
>> 2) PCB production stays in their part of the building.
>> 3) Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
>> 4) Avoid the lunchroom.
>> 5) OSP construction one person per truck.
>> 6) Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
>> 7) Vac excavators will have to do it with one person. Much slower
>> but safer.
>> 8) More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
>> Anything I can add?
>>
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[chuck]

We delouse everyone when they come to work in the mornings.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

You should do something about those lice...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:29 AM James Howard  wrote:

  You should be a comedian.{Grumble grumble as I scratch my head}





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  Lice! How many peoples heads started itching?

  Bill Prince wrote:
  >
  > Tell people to not touch their face. Points of entry are eyes, nose, 
  > and mouth. This is harder to do than you might think. If there is any 
  > good use for face masks, it is to train people to not touch their 
  > face. The mask does not need to be N95, it is more a training device 
  > than a protection device.
  >
  > Also, wash your hands (or sanitize) at every opportunity.
  >
  > bp
  > 
  >
  > On 3/28/2020 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
  >> I have stepped up our response to this at work.
  >> Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
  >> 1) Mechanic will work swing shift. No overlap with day shift 
  >> employees.
  >> 2) PCB production stays in their part of the building.
  >> 3) Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
  >> 4) Avoid the lunchroom.
  >> 5) OSP construction one person per truck.
  >> 6) Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
  >> 7) Vac excavators will have to do it with one person. Much slower 
  >> but safer.
  >> 8) More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
  >> Anything I can add?
  >>
  >
  >

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Mathew Howard]

I got the paywall too, but I just hit the stop button before the paywall
loaded, and it worked fine.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:49 AM  wrote:

> Odd, it asked me for my email address to sign up for nat geo Covid
> articles but it let me through.
> I just googled nat geo covid and clicked on the link that came up.  First
> saw it on the phone but the link below came from the PC.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:45 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics
>
>
> I was blocked by their paywall.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/28/2020 8:43 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> No, it just automagically appeared on my news icon on my iphone.  The one
> that came with the phone.  But I don’t subscribe to it I don’t think.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:36 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics
>
>
> Do you get that with your Apple News+ subscription?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:22 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics
>
>
>
> This is an interesting article:
>
>
> https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/
>
>
>
> Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the initial
> peak is over.
>
> Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into that
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

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You should do something about those lice...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:29 AM James Howard  wrote:

> You should be a comedian.{Grumble grumble as I scratch my head}
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jay Weekley
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:22 AM
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>
>
>
> Lice! How many peoples heads started itching?
>
> Bill Prince wrote:
> >
> > Tell people to not touch their face. Points of entry are eyes, nose,
> > and mouth. This is harder to do than you might think. If there is any
> > good use for face masks, it is to train people to not touch their
> > face. The mask does not need to be N95, it is more a training device
> > than a protection device.
> >
> > Also, wash your hands (or sanitize) at every opportunity.
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 3/28/2020 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> >> I have stepped up our response to this at work.
> >> Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
> >> 1) Mechanic will work swing shift. No overlap with day shift
> >> employees.
> >> 2) PCB production stays in their part of the building.
> >> 3) Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
> >> 4) Avoid the lunchroom.
> >> 5) OSP construction one person per truck.
> >> 6) Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
> >> 7) Vac excavators will have to do it with one person. Much slower
> >> but safer.
> >> 8) More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
> >> Anything I can add?
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[James Howard]

You should be a comedian.{Grumble grumble as I scratch my head}


From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
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Lice! How many peoples heads started itching?

Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Tell people to not touch their face. Points of entry are eyes, nose,
> and mouth. This is harder to do than you might think. If there is any
> good use for face masks, it is to train people to not touch their
> face. The mask does not need to be N95, it is more a training device
> than a protection device.
>
> Also, wash your hands (or sanitize) at every opportunity.
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 3/28/2020 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> I have stepped up our response to this at work.
>> Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
>> 1) Mechanic will work swing shift. No overlap with day shift
>> employees.
>> 2) PCB production stays in their part of the building.
>> 3) Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
>> 4) Avoid the lunchroom.
>> 5) OSP construction one person per truck.
>> 6) Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
>> 7) Vac excavators will have to do it with one person. Much slower
>> but safer.
>> 8) More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
>> Anything I can add?
>>
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Jay Weekley]

Lice! How many peoples heads started itching?

Bill Prince wrote:


Tell people to not touch their face. Points of entry are eyes, nose, 
and mouth. This is harder to do than you might think. If there is any 
good use for face masks, it is to train people to not touch their 
face. The mask does not need to be N95, it is more a training device 
than a protection device.


Also, wash your hands (or sanitize) at every opportunity.

bp


On 3/28/2020 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I have stepped up our response to this at work.
Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
1)Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift 
employees.

2)PCB production stays in their part of the building.
3)Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
4)Avoid the lunchroom.
5)OSP construction one person per truck.
6)Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
7)Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower 
but safer.

8)More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.
Anything I can add?






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Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Tell people to not touch their face. Points of entry are eyes,
  nose, and mouth. This is harder to do than you might think. If
  there is any good use for face masks, it is to train people to not
  touch their face. The mask does not need to be N95, it is more a
  training device than a protection device.
Also, wash your hands (or sanitize) at every opportunity.

bp



On 3/28/2020 8:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  I have stepped up our response to this at work.
  Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
   
  1)    Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with
day shift employees.
  2)    PCB production stays in their part of the building.
  3)    Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
  4)    Avoid the lunchroom.
  5)    OSP construction one person per truck.
  6)    Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the
truck.
  7)    Vac excavators will have to do it with one person. 
Much slower but safer.
  8)    More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot
rule.
   
  Anything I can add?

  
  
  

  


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[AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

[chuck]

I have stepped up our response to this at work.
Comments and suggestions are very much welcome.

1)Mechanic will work swing shift.  No overlap with day shift employees.
2)PCB production stays in their part of the building.
3)Fabrication stay in their part of the building.
4)Avoid the lunchroom.
5)OSP construction one person per truck.
6)Bring lunch from home and eat it alone in the truck.
7)Vac excavators will have to do it with one person.  Much slower but safer.
8)More 2 way radio use to try to enforce the 10 foot rule.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[chuck]

Odd, it asked me for my email address to sign up for nat geo Covid articles but 
it let me through.  
I just googled nat geo covid and clicked on the link that came up.  First saw 
it on the phone but the link below came from the PC.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:45 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

I was blocked by their paywall.


bp


On 3/28/2020 8:43 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  No, it just automagically appeared on my news icon on my iphone.  The one 
that came with the phone.  But I don’t subscribe to it I don’t think.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:36 AM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

  Do you get that with your Apple News+ subscription?

   

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:22 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

   

  This is an interesting article:

  
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

   

  Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the initial 
peak is over.  

  Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into that cycle.  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[chuck]

With all of two deaths in Utah we are running a .4% death rate.  
I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away.

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

This is another perspective referred to in this article called "Hammer and 
Dance". It outlines what the various options and probable outcomes might be. It 
does get into the weeds somewhat.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56



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On 3/28/2020 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  This is an interesting article:
  
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

  Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the initial 
peak is over.  
  Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into that cycle.  

   



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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I was blocked by their paywall.

bp



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  wrote:


  
  
  
  

  No, it just automagically appeared on my news icon on my
iphone.  The one that came with the phone.  But I don’t
subscribe to it I don’t think.  
  

   
  
From: Ken
Hohhof 
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:36 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics
  

 
  
  

  Do you get that with your Apple News+
subscription?
   
  

  From: AF
 On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:22 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

  
   
  

  
This is an interesting article:
  
  
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/
  
  
 
  
  
Note the double boom if you relax
your social distancing after the initial peak is
over.  
  
  
Looks like 10-12 weeks of people
dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into that cycle.  
  

  




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[chuck]

No, it just automagically appeared on my news icon on my iphone.  The one that 
came with the phone.  But I don’t subscribe to it I don’t think.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:36 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

Do you get that with your Apple News+ subscription?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:22 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

 

This is an interesting article:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

 

Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the initial peak 
is over.  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[can...@believewireless.net]

Either way this goes, I'll be curious to see what the data in the US is
after the fact. I feel both sides win either way.

If virus is contained:
1.Social distancing worked.
2. Social distancing wasn't necessary.

If virus isn't contained:
1. We needed to social distance earlier.
2. Social distancing didn't matter.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Do you get that with your Apple News+ subscription?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:22 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics
>
>
>
> This is an interesting article:
>
>
> https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/
>
>
>
> Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the initial
> peak is over.
>
> Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks into that
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Ken Hohhof]

Do you get that with your Apple News+ subscription?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:22 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

 

This is an interesting article:

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curv
e-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

 

Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing after the initial
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

[Bill Prince]

  
  
This is another perspective referred to in this article called
  "Hammer and Dance". It outlines what the various options and
  probable outcomes might be. It does get into the weeds somewhat.
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56


bp



On 3/28/2020 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  This is an interesting article:
  https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/
   
  Note the double boom if you relax your social distancing
after the initial peak is over.  
  Looks like 10-12 weeks of people dying.  We are 2.5 weeks
into that cycle.  

  
  
  

  


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This is an interesting article:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging

[Ken Hohhof]

It could just be expediency, or some agency had a cookie cutter emergency plan 
drawn up that they invoked.

 

Kind of like NYC having FEMA or the Army Corps of Engineers set up prefab 
hospitals in the Javits Center.  You make one call and it’s done, you don’t 
have to manage any of the details, someone else does it and you can focus on 
other things.  It may not be the lowest cost or the most creative or even the 
best, but the vendor is on your approved list, you’ve worked with them before, 
what they’re going to deliver has already been worked out, and they manage the 
project.

 

I’m thinking of the company ABC Plumbing/Heating/Cooling/Electric that runs 
commercials in the Chicago area.  Homeowner has a problem, what are you doing 
about it, I called ABC.  Tagline:  “so it’s done”.  Their pitch isn’t low cost 
or any of the other typical claims you see in ads, it’s you make one call and 
it’s done.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging

 

Gouging is when you take advantage of someone in need to charge an amount 
higher than market value. This is taking advantage of a signed check with no 
dollar amount in the amount field. Its like finding an open ATM when the power 
is out. There's no camera functioning, so you're really only limited by the 
size of your pockets and whoever is watching.

 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 9:54 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
mailto:li...@packetflux.com> > wrote:

Would this be related to FirstNet, which I understand is mostly an AT thing?

 

 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:23 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

We are doing it with one of the county governments we service. 

They probably have an arrangement to use ATT or something. Why would you pay 
for a build when you have two other carriers already there?

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Nate Burke   > wrote:
> 
> I'm guessing the telco's are exempt from price gouging.  We just saw an 
> emergency underground locate come through so that AT could do a 2000' bore 
> into a building to provide 'covid19 command center' There are already 2 other 
> fiber providers in the building, and we could reach it via Microwave.  I'm 
> thinking the sales guy made his yearly commission on that circuit, as I can't 
> see AT doing an install at that speed out of the goodness of their 
> heart   I'm guessing similar things are being done all over the country.
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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CNHeat

[Dan Sullivan via AF]

It is per month.  This is with a three-year subscription.

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One time or recurring?

-Original Message- 
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Is the pricing $12.50/site now?

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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CNHeat

[Dan Sullivan via AF]

Yes

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