Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown 
Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do the job,

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> On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> 
> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
> hack about things I already know.
>  
> Anywho:
>  
> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in 
> the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>  
> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>  
> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Sterling Jacobson 
Yeah, yeah.

I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A plug 
to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the automatic 
transfer part.

I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do the job,
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:

I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
hack about things I already know.

Anywho:

If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in the 
right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.

Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:

http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread chuck 
https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C
$36.50  Already in a box.

https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19

$29.36

Or a pair of simple contactors wired up as a DPDT.


From: Sterling Jacobson 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Yeah, yeah.

 

I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A plug 
to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the automatic 
transfer part.

 

I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do the job,

Sent from my iPhone





  On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:

   

  I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.

  Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.

  All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
hack about things I already know.

   

  Anywho:

   

  If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in 
the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.

   

  Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:

   

  
http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29

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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Adam Moffett 

Ok cute.

So you plug your portable generator into the "Inverter" side of this switch?

And I imagine then you can leave the generator there and let it flip 
back to utility power on its own.  Is that the idea?



On 9/10/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Kisae TS-20.  Available from Inverter Supply.

Buy a small NEMA4 box with a backplate, tap 2 holes, and mount it with 
2 screws.  Photo shows a TS-15 but there’s also a 20 amp version.


We’ve also put a Leviton male outdoor outlet on the side of the 
enclosure so you can plug in a generator without even opening the 
enclosure.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
*Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:18 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.

Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.

All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots 
mansplaining hack about things I already know.


Anywho:

If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point 
me in the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.


Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:

http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29


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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Mark Radabaugh 
Try searching for ’static transfer switch’ in Google.   There are a number of 
them available, including 1U designs for single input AC gear where you have 
A/B power.

Mark

> On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
> hack about things I already know.
>  
> Anywho:
>  
> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in 
> the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>  
> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>  
> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
>  
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Ken Hohhof 
Yes, that's the idea.  When the generator runs out of fuel, the transfer
switch automatically switches back to commercial power (assuming it's back
on) and you can go retrieve the generator at your convenience.

 

Actually I stole most of this idea from Nate Burke.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:25 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

Ok cute.  

So you plug your portable generator into the "Inverter" side of this switch?

And I imagine then you can leave the generator there and let it flip back to
utility power on its own.  Is that the idea? 

 

On 9/10/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Kisae TS-20.  Available from Inverter Supply.

 

Buy a small NEMA4 box with a backplate, tap 2 holes, and mount it with 2
screws.  Photo shows a TS-15 but there's also a 20 amp version.

 

We've also put a Leviton male outdoor outlet on the side of the enclosure so
you can plug in a generator without even opening the enclosure.

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  On
Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:18 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.

Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.

All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining
hack about things I already know.

 

Anywho:

 

If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in
the right direction because I'm having a hell of a time finding it.

 

Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:

 

http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Sw
itch-%2820A%29





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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Sterling Jacobson 
Great, thanks for the intelligent and useful feedback everyone!

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C
$36.50  Already in a box.

https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19

$29.36

Or a pair of simple contactors wired up as a DPDT.


From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Yeah, yeah.

I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A plug 
to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the automatic 
transfer part.

I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do the job,
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:

I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
hack about things I already know.

Anywho:

If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in the 
right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.

Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:

http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Jesse DuPont 

  
  
We're using this one. It's only 15A, but works fantastic.

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On 9/10/20 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
I should have just asked this here first
  instead of the Facebook groups.
Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes
  me doubt humanity.
All I got out of Facebook so far with this
  questions is idiots mansplaining hack about things I already
  know.
 
Anywho:
 
If you know of a product that exists that
  fits the bill, please point me in the right direction because
  I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
 
Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead
  of manual:
 
http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
  
  
  


  

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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Adam Moffett 

I wouldn't have thought of that.

Are all transfer switches just relays with an ac powered coil?


On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C
$36.50  Already in a box.
https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19
$29.36
Or a pair of simple contactors wired up as a DPDT.
*From:* Sterling Jacobson
*Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:47 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Yeah, yeah.

I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 
20A plug to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for 
the automatic transfer part.


I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do 
the job,


Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson
 wrote:



I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook
groups.

Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.

All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots
mansplaining hack about things I already know.

Anywho:

If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please
point me in the right direction because I’m having a hell of a
time finding it.

Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:


http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29

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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Ken Hohhof 
No, I don’t think so.  Some are.

 

You want to avoid the ones that won’t switch off commercial power until it 
drops below something like 80 V.  Those are fine for boats and RVs to switch 
between shore power and an inverter, because the commercial power is either 
there or it isn’t.  But at our tower sites, it seems like at least half of 
power failures are partial voltage, we see anything from 60 to 90 volts, and 
most electronics won’t run on that.  Nothing pisses me off like driving to a 
tower site that’s down, and finding 4 days worth of fully charged batteries for 
the inverter, but the ATS is delivering 85 volts to the loads thinking that 
should be just fine.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:31 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

I wouldn't have thought of that.

Are all transfer switches just relays with an ac powered coil?

 

On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C

$36.50  Already in a box.

 

https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19>
 &keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19

 

$29.36

 

Or a pair of simple contactors wired up as a DPDT.

 

 

From: Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:47 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

Yeah, yeah.

 

I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A plug 
to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the automatic 
transfer part.

 

I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do the job,

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On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net> > wrote:

 

I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.

Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.

All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
hack about things I already know.

 

Anywho:

 

If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in the 
right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.

 

Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:

 

http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29

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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown 
Yep 

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> On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn't have thought of that.
> 
> Are all transfer switches just relays with an ac powered coil?
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C
>> $36.50  Already in a box.
>>  
>> https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19
>>  
>> $29.36
>>  
>> Or a pair of simple contactors wired up as a DPDT.
>>  
>>  
>> From: Sterling Jacobson
>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:47 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug
>>  
>> Yeah, yeah.
>>  
>> I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A 
>> plug to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the 
>> automatic transfer part.
>>  
>> I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.
>>  
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug
>>  
>> Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do the 
>> job,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
>> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
>> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
>> hack about things I already know.
>>  
>> Anywho:
>>  
>> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in 
>> the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>>  
>> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>>  
>> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Mark Radabaugh 
Most transfer switches are latching relays - the coil is only used to switch 
them from one state to the other.   A latching relay does not require power to 
stay in a given position.

A really simple solution is a contactor (heavy duty relay) with the utility 
power wired to the coil to hold the relay on when utility power is available 
with the power wired through the NO contacts (normally open contacts), and the 
generator power through the NC contacts.   Or reverse that so that de-energized 
relay supplies utility power and when you connnect the generator it pulls in 
the coil, disconnects the utility, and puts the load on the generator.

Mark

> On Sep 10, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Yep 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Adam Moffett > <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I wouldn't have thought of that.
>> 
>> Are all transfer switches just relays with an ac powered coil?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C 
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C>
>>> $36.50  Already in a box.
>>>  
>>> https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19
>>>  
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19>
>>>  
>>> $29.36
>>>  
>>> Or a pair of simple contactors wired up as a DPDT.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Sterling Jacobson <>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:47 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug
>>>  
>>> Yeah, yeah.
>>>  
>>> I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A 
>>> plug to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the 
>>> automatic transfer part.
>>>  
>>> I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.
>>>  
>>> From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On 
>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug
>>>  
>>> Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do the 
>>> job,
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson < <>sterl...@avative.net 
>>> <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
>>> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
>>> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
>>> hack about things I already know.
>>>  
>>> Anywho:
>>>  
>>> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in 
>>> the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>>>  
>>> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>>>  
>>> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
>>>  
>>> <http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29>
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Jason Wilson 
The Prowatt will favor one over the other. I have my AC main going to the
favored port. When utility comes on it takes over the the generator is
allowed to run out of fuel. The generators input comes from an outlet on
the outside of the cabinet.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 13:54 Jason Wilson  wrote:

> This is what we use.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 13:31 Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> No, I don’t think so.  Some are.
>>
>>
>>
>> You want to avoid the ones that won’t switch off commercial power until
>> it drops below something like 80 V.  Those are fine for boats and RVs to
>> switch between shore power and an inverter, because the commercial power is
>> either there or it isn’t.  But at our tower sites, it seems like at least
>> half of power failures are partial voltage, we see anything from 60 to 90
>> volts, and most electronics won’t run on that.  Nothing pisses me off like
>> driving to a tower site that’s down, and finding 4 days worth of fully
>> charged batteries for the inverter, but the ATS is delivering 85 volts to
>> the loads thinking that should be just fine.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:31 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor
>> switch/plug
>>
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't have thought of that.
>>
>> Are all transfer switches just relays with an ac powered coil?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C
>>
>> $36.50  Already in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19
>>
>>
>>
>> $29.36
>>
>>
>>
>> Or a pair of simple contactors wired up as a DPDT.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:47 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor
>> switch/plug
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, yeah.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A
>> plug to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the
>> automatic transfer part.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF   *On
>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor
>> switch/plug
>>
>>
>>
>> Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do
>> the job,
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
>>
>> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
>>
>> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots
>> mansplaining hack about things I already know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anywho:
>>
>>
>>
>> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me
>> in the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Steve Jones 
I second these, theyre cheap and easy, we hardwire them and w put plugs on
them for portable generator
https://www.donrowe.com/PowerMax-PMTS-30-Automatic-Transfer-Switch-p/pmts-30.htm?gclid=CjwKCAjwnef6BRAgEiwAgv8mQaUjgbYD-kBNWyQY1A83bEBWIRL_gUbsiEjIUIjvHPtghoAPRLqo-RoC0EYQAvD_BwE

this one has more whistle

https://www.amazon.com/Go-Power-TS-30-Automatic-Transfer/dp/B00153EYTO/ref=asc_df_B00153EYTO/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312146506965&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4470987733912037695&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9022172&hvtargid=pla-436834989828&psc=1

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:58 PM Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> The Prowatt will favor one over the other. I have my AC main going to the
> favored port. When utility comes on it takes over the the generator is
> allowed to run out of fuel. The generators input comes from an outlet on
> the outside of the cabinet.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 13:54 Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> This is what we use.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 13:31 Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> No, I don’t think so.  Some are.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You want to avoid the ones that won’t switch off commercial power until
>>> it drops below something like 80 V.  Those are fine for boats and RVs to
>>> switch between shore power and an inverter, because the commercial power is
>>> either there or it isn’t.  But at our tower sites, it seems like at least
>>> half of power failures are partial voltage, we see anything from 60 to 90
>>> volts, and most electronics won’t run on that.  Nothing pisses me off like
>>> driving to a tower site that’s down, and finding 4 days worth of fully
>>> charged batteries for the inverter, but the ATS is delivering 85 volts to
>>> the loads thinking that should be just fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:31 PM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor
>>> switch/plug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't have thought of that.
>>>
>>> Are all transfer switches just relays with an ac powered coil?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C
>>>
>>> $36.50  Already in a box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> $29.36
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or a pair of simple contactors wired up as a DPDT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:47 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor
>>> switch/plug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, yeah.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A
>>> plug to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the
>>> automatic transfer part.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF   *On
>>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:37 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor
>>> switch/plug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure you will find an auto transfer.  But a $10 contractor will do
>>> the job,
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
>>>
>>> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
>>>
>>> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots
>>> mansplaining hack about things I already know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anywho:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me
>>> in the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Steve Jones 
thats what we do, it amazes me how hard male receptacles are to find at
electrical supply houses, they tell you they dont exist, i think leviton
must make the only one

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:54 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Kisae TS-20.  Available from Inverter Supply.
>
>
>
> Buy a small NEMA4 box with a backplate, tap 2 holes, and mount it with 2
> screws.  Photo shows a TS-15 but there’s also a 20 amp version.
>
>
>
> We’ve also put a Leviton male outdoor outlet on the side of the enclosure
> so you can plug in a generator without even opening the enclosure.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:18 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug
>
>
>
> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
>
> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
>
> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots
> mansplaining hack about things I already know.
>
>
>
> Anywho:
>
>
>
> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me
> in the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>
>
>
> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Jason Wilson 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZDMY46/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_TDvFvChYWMDGb

I went to 30 amp plugs. No one will steal your extension cords. I make all
of mine.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 14:49 Steve Jones  wrote:

> thats what we do, it amazes me how hard male receptacles are to find at
> electrical supply houses, they tell you they dont exist, i think leviton
> must make the only one
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:54 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Kisae TS-20.  Available from Inverter Supply.
>>
>>
>>
>> Buy a small NEMA4 box with a backplate, tap 2 holes, and mount it with 2
>> screws.  Photo shows a TS-15 but there’s also a 20 amp version.
>>
>>
>>
>> We’ve also put a Leviton male outdoor outlet on the side of the enclosure
>> so you can plug in a generator without even opening the enclosure.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:18 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug
>>
>>
>>
>> I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.
>>
>> Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.
>>
>> All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots
>> mansplaining hack about things I already know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anywho:
>>
>>
>>
>> If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me
>> in the right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Ken Hohhof 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-15-Amp-125-Volt-Straight-Blade-Grounding-Power-Inlet-Outlet-Gray-001-05278-CWP/301304898

 

Not in stores, I had it shipped.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason Wilson
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZDMY46/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_TDvFvChYWMDGb

 

I went to 30 amp plugs. No one will steal your extension cords. I make all of 
mine.  

 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 14:49 Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

thats what we do, it amazes me how hard male receptacles are to find at 
electrical supply houses, they tell you they dont exist, i think leviton must 
make the only one

 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:54 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Kisae TS-20.  Available from Inverter Supply.

 

Buy a small NEMA4 box with a backplate, tap 2 holes, and mount it with 2 
screws.  Photo shows a TS-15 but there’s also a 20 amp version.

 

We’ve also put a Leviton male outdoor outlet on the side of the enclosure so 
you can plug in a generator without even opening the enclosure.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:18 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.

Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.

All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
hack about things I already know.

 

Anywho:

 

If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in the 
right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.

 

Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:

 

http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29

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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-10 Thread Bill Prince 

  
  
Pick your poison.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hubbell+ac+power+inlet+plug&sxsrf=ALeKk01FfJyufjwy1kWj2hrKghX56PWxqw:1599791467113&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwimnPLQh-DrAhVVvZ4KHSopAA8Q_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1593&bih=1008

bp

On 9/10/2020 4:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-15-Amp-125-Volt-Straight-Blade-Grounding-Power-Inlet-Outlet-Gray-001-05278-CWP/301304898
 
Not in stores, I had it shipped.
 

  From: AF
 On Behalf Of Jason
Wilson
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
        
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer
    Outdoor switch/plug

 

  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZDMY46/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_TDvFvChYWMDGb
  
 
  
  
I went to 30 amp plugs. No one will
  steal your extension cords. I make all of mine.  
  

 

  
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 14:49 Steve Jones
  <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
  

  thats what we do, it amazes me how
hard male receptacles are to find at electrical supply
houses, they tell you they dont exist, i think leviton
must make the only one

 

  
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:54 PM
  Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
  wrote:
  
  

  
Kisae
  TS-20.  Available from Inverter Supply.
 
Buy
  a small NEMA4 box with a backplate, tap 2 holes,
  and mount it with 2 screws.  Photo shows a TS-15
  but there’s also a 20 amp version.
 
We’ve
  also put a Leviton male outdoor outlet on the side
  of the enclosure so you can plug in a generator
  without even opening the enclosure.
 
 

  
From:
  AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
  On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
  Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020
  12:18 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto
  Transfer Outdoor switch/plug
  

 
I
  should have just asked this here first instead of
  the Facebook groups.
Sometimes
  people are just so lazy it makes me doubt
  humanity.
All
  I got out of Facebook so far with this questions
  is idiots mansplaining hack about things I already
  know.
 
Anywho:
 
If
  you know of a product that exists that fits the
  bill, please point me in the right direction
  because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.
 
Basically
  this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:
 
http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29
  

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Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof 
Apparently the magic term is “inlet”.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:33 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

Pick your poison.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hubbell+ac+power+inlet+plug 
<https://www.google.com/search?q=hubbell+ac+power+inlet+plug&sxsrf=ALeKk01FfJyufjwy1kWj2hrKghX56PWxqw:1599791467113&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwimnPLQh-DrAhVVvZ4KHSopAA8Q_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1593&bih=1008>
 
&sxsrf=ALeKk01FfJyufjwy1kWj2hrKghX56PWxqw:1599791467113&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwimnPLQh-DrAhVVvZ4KHSopAA8Q_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1593&bih=1008

bp


On 9/10/2020 4:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-15-Amp-125-Volt-Straight-Blade-Grounding-Power-Inlet-Outlet-Gray-001-05278-CWP/301304898

 

Not in stores, I had it shipped.

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  On Behalf 
Of Jason Wilson
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZDMY46/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_TDvFvChYWMDGb

 

I went to 30 amp plugs. No one will steal your extension cords. I make all of 
mine.  

 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 14:49 Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

thats what we do, it amazes me how hard male receptacles are to find at 
electrical supply houses, they tell you they dont exist, i think leviton must 
make the only one

 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:54 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Kisae TS-20.  Available from Inverter Supply.

 

Buy a small NEMA4 box with a backplate, tap 2 holes, and mount it with 2 
screws.  Photo shows a TS-15 but there’s also a 20 amp version.

 

We’ve also put a Leviton male outdoor outlet on the side of the enclosure so 
you can plug in a generator without even opening the enclosure.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:18 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

 

I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups.

Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity.

All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining 
hack about things I already know.

 

Anywho:

 

If you know of a product that exists that fits the bill, please point me in the 
right direction because I’m having a hell of a time finding it.

 

Basically this, but AUTO TRANSFER instead of manual:

 

http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Reliance-CSR201L-Transfer-Switch-%2820A%29

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