Re: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick
Grout the valleys and use redheads or plastic or lead molys. From: Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 6:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick I’ve got some buildings that have a decorative brick on the side that has peaks and valleys of up to 1.5” I need to mount brackets against them meaning I need a tool that can ream away the brick until I have a smooth area to mount the bracket against it. Imagine a hole saw that that is just flat or something like a counter sink tool. Can someone please tell me what that’s called? Rory Conaway Triad Wireless 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az. 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net “Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”
Re: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick
Interesting, you are suggesting filling it in. I will test that. Thanks. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 8:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick Grout the valleys and use redheads or plastic or lead molys. From: Rory Conaway via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 6:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick I’ve got some buildings that have a decorative brick on the side that has peaks and valleys of up to 1.5” I need to mount brackets against them meaning I need a tool that can ream away the brick until I have a smooth area to mount the bracket against it. Imagine a hole saw that that is just flat or something like a counter sink tool. Can someone please tell me what that’s called? Rory Conaway Triad Wireless 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az. 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net “Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”
[AFMUG] traps vs polling
When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis?
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals. On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis? -- Sent via mobile
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] UBNT equipment - Atlanta
We do have a top-secret office in Midtown ;) Mostly development; we don't keep a lot of equipment here though... what do you need? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: UBNT does actually have an Atlanta office... and Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, Taiwan, and a few other places... :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/28/2014 05:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Matt lives down there... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 28, 2014 9:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: I need help. Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to my brother in laws. They moved to another house in Cobb County. Have a three story home with a Belkin. Wifi sucks. Will never be able to work here ! Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ? Sent from my iPhone ___ Members mailing listMembers@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] UBNT equipment - Atlanta
I think he'd be happy with a Pico and/or Nanostation. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Matt Hardy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We do have a top-secret office in Midtown ;) Mostly development; we don't keep a lot of equipment here though... what do you need? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: UBNT does actually have an Atlanta office... and Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, Taiwan, and a few other places... :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/28/2014 05:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Matt lives down there... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 28, 2014 9:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: I need help. Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to my brother in laws. They moved to another house in Cobb County. Have a three story home with a Belkin. Wifi sucks. Will never be able to work here ! Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ? Sent from my iPhone ___ Members mailing listMembers@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
Re: [AFMUG] Balting Networks selling AF5 for $850
Thanks for the detail. Have you already worked with support on these? How many links do you have like this? You have 2 that are solid and then a couple that are not? Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:33 PM, cjwstudios via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think six come on a pallet. Sitting on two pallets now I suppose. I have one 16 mi link running a consistent 96 meg up/down at 30mhz and a 5 mile link running 5.7/5.4 70 down 30 up. These links are rock solid, no problems. Remainder of the links, from 3 miles to 10, can't get worthwhile throughput on any of them. It seems like they tolerate no noise at all whatsoever whereas a pair of tik netboxes in the same location link up at 270/300 and just work. Tried the latest betas, which are better. The AF24's on the other hand, work great in every application I've tried. I just keep hoping a magic new AF fw will come out that helps make these AF5's more usable. Keeping the faith On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Ben Moore via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What issues are you having? Thanks, Ben On Dec 24, 2014, at 11:08 AM, cjwstudios via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I bought a pallet of AF5's...still waiting to see if a FW version comes out that makes them useful. I'm not too impressed. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The antennas are too small to be useful in most places. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Carl Peterson via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 22, 2014 9:49:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Balting Networks selling AF5 for $850 I get the feeling that AF5s aren't selling too well and there is a bunch of old inventory they are trying to move. AF24s are still selling well. On Dec 22, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Keefe John via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It'd be nice to see the AF24 @ $850 too. On 12/22/2014 8:38 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: Well crap, that was not supposed to happen. Baltic is selling the AF5 for $850. Is this the new normal, not $995? 150 bucks off makes it somewhat more attractive versus some other options, if I can use it for short distance FDD-like links and keep it in 1024QAM mode. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
If we poll every minute or every 5 minutes, catching traps may not be important. If we don’t poll, I worry that we will miss a trap due to it being UDP. From: Eric Muehleisen via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals. On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis? -- Sent via mobile
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
Yeah polling is logging things that are expected, traps are trying to know whether something unexpected happened or not. Traps are good for logging things that dont require a high degree of accuracy, or for alerting a specific condition i real time On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: If we poll every minute or every 5 minutes, catching traps may not be important. If we don’t poll, I worry that we will miss a trap due to it being UDP. *From:* Eric Muehleisen via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 9:52 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals. On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis? -- Sent via mobile -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
I think that is the general consensus. Trapping at first glance appears to be the solution for alerting until the reliability comes into question due to the lack of some sort of ACK within the protocol. Forrest has talked about this numerous times and likely has some hard fought lessons learned. Maybe he will chime in. It would be nice if Cacti had some sort of statefull mechanism to switch to a higher frequency “ping” once a device fails to respond to the standard 5 minute check-in schedule. A 5 minute old alert would be fine but you really need to wait for two or more poles to confirm and with such a slow sample rate 10 or 15 minutes becomes a little tardy for some targets. The other desirable requirement is for a hierarchal tree so that a backhaul outage doesn’t trigger a landslide of alerts from all the devices on the other side on the downed link. I believe there are other monitoring systems that do both of these things but I have no experience beyond Cacti. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling If we poll every minute or every 5 minutes, catching traps may not be important. If we don’t poll, I worry that we will miss a trap due to it being UDP. From: Eric Muehleisen via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals. On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis? -- Sent via mobile
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
SNMPc has a good dependency system for minimizing cascading alerts On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think that is the general consensus. Trapping at first glance appears to be the solution for alerting until the reliability comes into question due to the lack of some sort of ACK within the protocol. Forrest has talked about this numerous times and likely has some hard fought lessons learned. Maybe he will chime in. It would be nice if Cacti had some sort of statefull mechanism to switch to a higher frequency “ping” once a device fails to respond to the standard 5 minute check-in schedule. A 5 minute old alert would be fine but you really need to wait for two or more poles to confirm and with such a slow sample rate 10 or 15 minutes becomes a little tardy for some targets. The other desirable requirement is for a hierarchal tree so that a backhaul outage doesn’t trigger a landslide of alerts from all the devices on the other side on the downed link. I believe there are other monitoring systems that do both of these things but I have no experience beyond Cacti. PC Blaze Broadband *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:18 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling If we poll every minute or every 5 minutes, catching traps may not be important. If we don’t poll, I worry that we will miss a trap due to it being UDP. *From:* Eric Muehleisen via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 9:52 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals. On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis? -- Sent via mobile -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
Poll for data, use traps for emergencies or unusual events that you don't want to wait around for. Belt and suspenders I guess. Poll to collect all your data; historical and otherwise. Use traps for alert situations. Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad things are happening on the network. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 8:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis?
[AFMUG] wireless router video
Looking for the link to the belkin or dlink video telling folks to get the router up off the floor.
Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations
AXIS Q6042-E Network Camera We have several and there great, can really stand up to the weather Kevin Pesenecker IT Mananger Crestone Colorado Central Telecom ke...@crestonetelecom.com 719-937-7700 ext 101 719-588-8043 Cell skype: kevinpez On 12/26/2014 8:46 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: I've heard a lot of good about the new UniFi cameras, though I haven't used one myself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 8:14:43 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations Define “useful”. This is not a security application so we don’t need to be able to read license plates. Don’t you guys ever have customers ask you what the view looks like from up there? My response is usually ‘why don’t you climb with me and take a look’. I was thinking a camera would give them the “gee that is neat” view and the occasional check of the weather. The problem is that I don’t know what the image would look like with a $250 camera vs a $1500 camera. Or is more $ required? Just wondering what others have done. EverFocus has a 2 MP 20x optical zoom H.264 speed dome camera EPN4220 for ~$1,550. Wondering what that would look like. Oh. Its 24VAC. Yuk. Are all these type cameras going to be AC? 30W and 10/100. So I guess I could do a passive POE with custom injectors at each end. Not horrible. PC Blaze Broadband *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 8:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations Seriously?� That would require a serious zoom/telephoto lens to get you any kind of decent resolution. I don't know anything off the top of my head that would be useful at a half mile. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 3:18 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote: I�m thinking 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile would be fine.� Forget the IR thing.� Not needed.� Good day time image is what people will want to look at I think. � � � *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 5:46 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations � What kind of distance are you talking about?� Critical issue if you wanted IR, because there are serious limitations on how far you will get decent video with IR (no greater than 100', and that might be a stretch).� But the distance would dictate what kind of magnification/lenses are required. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com � On 12/26/2014 2:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote: This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven�t seen if for a while.� A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his commercial business park.� We might install and provide local bandwidth for free if they buy the camera.� A little good will between us, them, and the community. �So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money are we talking to get something that doesn�t suck? � It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution.� Good low light would be nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously.� I assume a small heater is required to avoid condensation but I don�t know that.� Are these available POE? � PC Blaze Broadband � �
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
SNMP polling is normally UDP as well :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/29/2014 09:19 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Poll for data, use traps for emergencies or unusual events that you don't want to wait around for. Belt and suspenders I guess. Poll to collect all your data; historical and otherwise. Use traps for alert situations. Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad things are happening on the network. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 8:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis?
[AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
On 12/29/14 8:46, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis?
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.comhttp://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
Yeah, but at least you can treat a failed poll response as a failure. On 12/29/2014 12:37 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: SNMP polling is normally UDP as well :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com On 12/29/2014 09:19 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Poll for data, use traps for emergencies or unusual events that you don't want to wait around for. Belt and suspenders I guess.� Poll to collect all your data; historical and otherwise.� Use traps for alert situations. Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad things are happening on the network. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 8:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis? -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
[AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE
We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also on the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to the hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental breakfast and free internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, there are many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an option. Ramada Inn 1659 West North Temple 801-533-9000 We will update the website today with this information as well. Thanks - see you in a few weeks! Traci
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3565975/why-is-snmp-usually-run-over-udp-and-not-tcp-ip josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/29/2014 09:43 AM, Simon Westlake via Af wrote: Yeah, but at least you can treat a failed poll response as a failure. On 12/29/2014 12:37 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: SNMP polling is normally UDP as well :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com On 12/29/2014 09:19 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Poll for data, use traps for emergencies or unusual events that you don't want to wait around for. Belt and suspenders I guess.� Poll to collect all your data; historical and otherwise.� Use traps for alert situations. Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad things are happening on the network. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 8:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis?
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
On 12/29/14 10:19, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad things are happening on the network. Use an SNMP inform instead of a trap, if the device supports it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
This. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/29/2014 09:47 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: On 12/29/14 10:19, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad things are happening on the network. Use an SNMP inform instead of a trap, if the device supports it. ~Seth
[AFMUG] OT need apple help
One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I think that was pre OSX.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help
Google? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/29/2014 10:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I think that was pre OSX.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
I had a pair of units in the field that would not allow themselves to be fully reset to defaults. At first I blamed the desk tech who did the config. Then I blamed the field guy for not being able to reset it. Then I drove out there. It was probably a couple of bad units (fair, I guess) but we were also suffering some pretty serious DFS issues on another pair of links, so, we’re waiting it out at his point. Ryan From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.comhttp://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Beeing an early adopter is hard with every gear. You need luck to get a working device/firmware. We did one test tower which does not work due to dfs issues, than we had a bad sm we used for testing. Now they work quite well for us. The web interface needs a fast pc to be usable. It is slow but works. The epmp needs still a lot of work but you see progress. Von: Tyler Treat via Af Gesendet: Montag, 29. Dezember 2014 19:59 An: Tyler Treat via Af Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Perhaps a live demo during AF Cambium QA session? From: Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
i've got a toughbook cf-31 with an i5 processor and it struggles with the epmp Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Beeing an early adopter is hard with every gear. You need luck to get a working device/firmware. We did one test tower which does not work due to dfs issues, than we had a bad sm we used for testing. Now they work quite well for us. The web interface needs a fast pc to be usable. It is slow but works. The epmp needs still a lot of work but you see progress. Von: Tyler Treat via Af Gesendet: Montag, 29. Dezember 2014 19:59 An: Tyler Treat via Af Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Well. I already said the alignment function is sh!t and I stand by that. Just turn the damn thing into a Canopy spin off with the same features. Engineers seem to over complicate things. (Like a woman) Sorry Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help
Try this: http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/ -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I think that was pre OSX.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Glad to see someone else go on a rant about this. I spent half the day Saturday getting relatively nowhere with a couple of these units. Let's face it, there is a lot that's right about them but the frustrations: * Admin Interface Slw. * Two people can not be in the radio at one time. New knocks existing out without warning. * Editing fields with existing content results in unpredictable (unexplainable) results. * Upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3.x results in locked config that can not be resolved without pin reset. * Management interface accessible from Internet despite second IP configured for management. (Cambium committed to fix for next release) * The radios seem to run nice but OUCH. Steve B _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com/ http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous. It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
What browser do you use? From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous. It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Chrome Version 39.0.2171.95 m (64-bit) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:26:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! What browser do you use? From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous. It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Everything I have is 2.3. Aligning the radios suck - the 5 second refresh is the best option =( Ubnt had it right - nice little pop up that simply gave you the RSSI every second (and would even beep!!!) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous. It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help
Step one: Remove any peripherals Step two: remove all power sources Step three: throw in trash On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Try this: http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/ -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I think that was pre OSX. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help
Power up holding the option key. They should allow you to boot to the recovery partition where you can reset the password. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Google? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/29/2014 10:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I think that was pre OSX.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
you must have a quad core processor, try it from a slower machine Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous. It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Six core, actually, but it's a 5 year old six core processor running on a system with 321 processes happening at the moment and 90% of my 16 GB of RAM filled. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:49:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! you must have a quad core processor, try it from a slower machine Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous. It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
what the fu josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/29/2014 10:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Six core, actually, but it's a 5 year old six core processor running on a system with 321 processes happening at the moment and 90% of my 16 GB of RAM filled. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:49:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! you must have a quad core processor, try it from a slower machine Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous. It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works with one browser... If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
[AFMUG] WD Auction
There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email
Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help
AFMUG: Come for the tech talk; Stay for the snark. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help Step one: Remove any peripherals Step two: remove all power sources Step three: throw in trash On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Try this: http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/ -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I think that was pre OSX. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
Seagate, years ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
Where did you see that? I can't find anything on it, other than some April Fool's joke. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Seagate, years ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help
I just come for the snark... From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Chris Wright via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help AFMUG: Come for the tech talk; Stay for the snark. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help Step one: Remove any peripherals Step two: remove all power sources Step three: throw in trash On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Try this: http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/ -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I think that was pre OSX. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] Ceragon Fibeair IP-20C?
Anyone using these? What type of ballpark pricing for a link? Price with and without XPIC enabled? If you need to hit me offlist. Thanks! Erich erich at northcentraltower dot com
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
Western digital is still going strong. They even bought Hitachi a while back. Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction. On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Where did you see that? I can't find anything on it, other than some April Fool's joke. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Seagate, years ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
My bad. WD did the acquiring, not the selling. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:18:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Western digital is still going strong. They even bought Hitachi a while back. Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction. On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Where did you see that? I can't find anything on it, other than some April Fool's joke. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote Seagate, years ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
[AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk
Anybody here have any tricks for getting a UCM6104 to use the damn analog trunk? The trunk is configured, no password on it (have tried with and without).Basic call routes have been configured including a catch-all, but whatever I do no phone will actually use the analog trunk(s). Any pointers? -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
I remember seeing pictures of a WD factory or warehouse or something in Thailand, I think, that was flooded by a Tsunami a few years ago. Any chance they're trying to sell off stuff involved in that event? Craig Quoting Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com: Western digital is still going strong. They even bought Hitachi a while back. Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction. On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Where did you see that? I can't find anything on it, other than some April Fool's joke. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Seagate, years ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk
Is the trunk (FXO) actually connected to a POTS line? Does it try, like can you monitor the POTS line and hear it go off hook? Can you make calls to a sip trunk? From: Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk Anybody here have any tricks for getting a UCM6104 to use the damn analog trunk? The trunk is configured, no password on it (have tried with and without). Basic call routes have been configured including a catch-all, but whatever I do no phone will actually use the analog trunk(s). Any pointers? -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
I remember that flood, hard drive prices went through the freaking roof On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Craig Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I remember seeing pictures of a WD factory or warehouse or something in Thailand, I think, that was flooded by a Tsunami a few years ago. Any chance they're trying to sell off stuff involved in that event? Craig Quoting Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com: Western digital is still going strong. They even bought Hitachi a while back. Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction. On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Where did you see that? I can't find anything on it, other than some April Fool's joke. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Seagate, years ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets- western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+ Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_ medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works with one browser... If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell
Im not sure what to say about this :) On 12/29/2014 03:58 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: 1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose. 2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her the next night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore extinct...leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.' (an oldie but goodie, I wish I could take credit)
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
13.2.1 on PMP450/430. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: they have a downloadable config file? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works with one browser... If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk
Yes. I'm assuming it can since calls to the office go to the phone correctly. This is an in-office setup only. No sip trunks, just a few analog devices on FXS ports on sip gateways, and some sip android clients that register directly with the UCM6104. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/29/2014 12:36 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Is the trunk (FXO) actually connected to a POTS line? Does it try, like can you monitor the POTS line and hear it go off hook? Can you make calls to a sip trunk? From: Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk Anybody here have any tricks for getting a UCM6104 to use the damn analog trunk? The trunk is configured, no password on it (have tried with and without). Basic call routes have been configured including a catch-all, but whatever I do no phone will actually use the analog trunk(s). Any pointers?
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Prior to reloading the laptop it even worked with PTP 450. Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works with one browser... If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
:-( but no fsk? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: 13.2.1 on PMP450/430. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: they have a downloadable config file? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works with one browser... If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Thanks. Everyone I got issue fixed. On Dec 27, 2014 11:07 AM, Butch Evans via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/26/2014 01:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple If you had load sharing turned on, you may want to send the output of the following terminal commands: /ip route rule print /ip firewall mangle print -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Gateway address was wrong charter communications fault I had a swift fox guy help me
Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE
I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug page now. Was there some problem with it, or were they full? On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote: We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also on the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to the hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental breakfast and free internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, there are many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an option. Ramada Inn 1659 West North Temple 801-533-9000 We will update the website today with this information as well. Thanks - see you in a few weeks! Traci
Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE
They are changing from the Shilo to the Holiday Inn. We have had multiple people tell us that when they call to reserve they are told that the hotel will not be open until mid-February. The hotel manager has assured us many time that is not the case. But if people can't call and reserve then we have a problem. If you can get through to someone there who will take your reservation then great, but we figured we had better have an alternative lined up. On 12/29/2014 4:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug page now. Was there some problem with it, or were they full? On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote: We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also on the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to the hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental breakfast and free internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, there are many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an option. Ramada Inn 1659 West North Temple 801-533-9000 We will update the website today with this information as well. Thanks - see you in a few weeks! Traci
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
so far no :-( -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 2:20 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: :-( but no fsk? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: 13.2.1 on PMP450/430. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: they have a downloadable config file? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works with one browser... If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE
Shuttle this year or should we rent a van again? ;-) Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Traci via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They are changing from the Shilo to the Holiday Inn. We have had multiple people tell us that when they call to reserve they are told that the hotel will not be open until mid-February. The hotel manager has assured us many time that is not the case. But if people can't call and reserve then we have a problem. If you can get through to someone there who will take your reservation then great, but we figured we had better have an alternative lined up. On 12/29/2014 4:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug page now. Was there some problem with it, or were they full? On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote: We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also on the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to the hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental breakfast and free internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, there are many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an option. Ramada Inn 1659 West North Temple 801-533-9000 We will update the website today with this information as well. Thanks - see you in a few weeks! Traci
Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE
As long as they open up the back gate at the Fairpark it's 1 TRAX stop, or .8 miles from the Ramada. On 12/29/2014 5:40 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af wrote: Shuttle this year or should we rent a van again? ;-) Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Traci via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: They are changing from the Shilo to the Holiday Inn. We have had multiple people tell us that when they call to reserve they are told that the hotel will not be open until mid-February. The hotel manager has assured us many time that is not the case. But if people can't call and reserve then we have a problem. If you can get through to someone there who will take your reservation then great, but we figured we had better have an alternative lined up. On 12/29/2014 4:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug page now. Was there some problem with it, or were they full? On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote: We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also on the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to the hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental breakfast and free internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, there are many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an option. Ramada Inn 1659 West North Temple 801-533-9000 We will update the website today with this information as well. Thanks - see you in a few weeks! Traci
[AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel
Looking for an economical device with contact closure inputs that will send email and text alerts using a provided Internet connection. Say a door is opened at a tower site I want an email or text message or both. Anyone know of anything? Thinking of using something like an Arduino but hate to reinvent the wheel.
Re: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel
Ubiquiti mFi? http://www.ubnt.com/mfi/mport/ Daniel White (303) 746-3590 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel Looking for an economical device with contact closure inputs that will send email and text alerts using a provided Internet connection. Say a door is opened at a tower site I want an email or text message or both. Anyone know of anything? Thinking of using something like an Arduino but hate to reinvent the wheel.
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC lite CPU and Memory OID
Um.. works just fine for me, what am I missing? iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.1.1.0 = Gauge32: 112800 iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.1.2.0 = Gauge32: 80720 iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.4.2.1.3.1 = Gauge32: 33 iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.4.2.1.3.2 = Gauge32: 28 iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.4.2.1.3.3 = Gauge32: 18 Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
Just spoke to my father, who worked at Western Digital from 2008 thru 2013 (hard drive firmware engineer) and he said he wasn’t aware there was any hard drive manufacturers in Phoenix – and especially was not aware of any Western Digital facility. My guess since assets like generators and chillers are in the auction, it was a facility long abandoned. And if you look at the age, they have been there a LONG time. That golf cart screams 1970’s to me. This news article would back that up: http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2010/05/31/daily17.html and this article from the same date talks about shutting down the same facility: http://archive.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/20100602microchip-plant-purchased.html Also would explain why my Dad didn’t know about it… it probably never became a “Western Digital” facility. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:34 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction More likely in my mind is that these are leftovers from a no longer used plant for spinning rust drives. The former assets of wd is what makes me curious. Makes it sounds like these were acquired from or abandoned by wd. On Dec 29, 2014 2:30 PM, Craig Baird via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I remember seeing pictures of a WD factory or warehouse or something in Thailand, I think, that was flooded by a Tsunami a few years ago. Any chance they're trying to sell off stuff involved in that event? Craig Quoting Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com : Western digital is still going strong. They even bought Hitachi a while back. Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction. On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Where did you see that? I can't find anything on it, other than some April Fool's joke. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Seagate, years ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digital http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email utm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] wireless router video
This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Looking for the link to the belkin or dlink video telling folks to get the router up off the floor.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
No, 13.3 beta so far. On 12/29/2014 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: 13.2.1 on PMP450/430. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: they have a downloadable config file? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works with one browser... If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
I don't think we'll see anything new for FSK for a while. Hopefully that changes. But I keep bugging them about that whole no radio left behind thing. Or in this case, no platform left behind. FSK won't die. On 12/29/2014 5:38 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: so far no :-( -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 2:20 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: :-( but no fsk? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: 13.2.1 on PMP450/430. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: they have a downloadable config file? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works with one browser... If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
anyone? anyone? :) AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow. On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: anyone? anyone? :) AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
All I see is a bunch of sectors on CC 0. :-? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? anyone? anyone? :) AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
Range 0 feet? From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow. On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � � anyone?� anyone? :) � � AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
hahahhahah. that's not the problem tho. anyone else? and no, 900 mhz isn't the problem. - Original Message - From: Tyler Treat via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? All I see is a bunch of sectors on CC 0. :-? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? anyone? anyone? :) AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
924mhz 1 has a different Becon version are you having sync issues? Also you are using 906 913 915 924 that's seems odd — Sent from Mailbox On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Range 0 feet? From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow. On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � � anyone?� anyone? :) � � AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
Either that or he has a new neighbor. If so. At least they were courteous enough to match sync. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 29, 2014, at 9:32 PM, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: 924mhz 1 has a different Becon version are you having sync issues? Also you are using 906 913 tel:906%20913%208 915 924 that's seems odd - Sent from Mailboxhttps://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Range 0 feet? From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow. On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: ??(1/2) ??(1/2) anyone???(1/2) anyone? :) ??(1/2) ??(1/2) AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
I'll post again when someone guesses correctly... :) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? Range 0 feet? From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow. On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � � anyone?� anyone? :) � � AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
we're getting there. (and this is not all me). what's odd about that? - Original Message - From: timothy steele via Af To: af@afmug.com Cc: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? 924mhz 1 has a different Becon version are you having sync issues? Also you are using 906 913 915 924 that's seems odd — Sent from Mailbox On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Range 0 feet? From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow. On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � � anyone?� anyone? :) � � AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel
Site Monitor? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ubiquiti mFi? http://www.ubnt.com/mfi/mport/ Daniel White (303) 746-3590 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel Looking for an economical device with contact closure inputs that will send email and text alerts using a provided Internet connection. Say a door is opened at a tower site I want an email or text message or both. Anyone know of anything? Thinking of using something like an Arduino but hate to reinvent the wheel.
Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE
Well I'd love to stay in a newly remodeled hotel. I think I'll try the Shilo Holiday Express tomorrow and see if I have any luck. How many others have reserved there successfully? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: As long as they open up the back gate at the Fairpark it's 1 TRAX stop, or .8 miles from the Ramada. On 12/29/2014 5:40 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af wrote: Shuttle this year or should we rent a van again? ;-) Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Traci via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They are changing from the Shilo to the Holiday Inn. We have had multiple people tell us that when they call to reserve they are told that the hotel will not be open until mid-February. The hotel manager has assured us many time that is not the case. But if people can't call and reserve then we have a problem. If you can get through to someone there who will take your reservation then great, but we figured we had better have an alternative lined up. On 12/29/2014 4:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug page now. Was there some problem with it, or were they full? On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote: We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also on the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to the hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental breakfast and free internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, there are many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an option. Ramada Inn 1659 West North Temple 801-533-9000 We will update the website today with this information as well. Thanks - see you in a few weeks! Traci
Re: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell
That's funny. I have a boy going for his bachelors and masters in Phoenix at the same time and we were just discussing this exact joke. The one we saw was a test question to a college student who had to answer whether Hell was exothermic or endothermic. http://www.pinetree.net/humor/thermodynamics.html -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell 1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose. 2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her the next night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore extinct...leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.' (an oldie but goodie, I wish I could take credit)
Re: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell
Oops, meant Bachelors and Masters in Physics. Back to back 17 hour days as Disneyland just caught up to me. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell That's funny. I have a boy going for his bachelors and masters in Phoenix at the same time and we were just discussing this exact joke. The one we saw was a test question to a college student who had to answer whether Hell was exothermic or endothermic. http://www.pinetree.net/humor/thermodynamics.html -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell 1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose. 2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her the next night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore extinct...leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.' (an oldie but goodie, I wish I could take credit)
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
hater :-) On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Just spoke to my father, who worked at Western Digital from 2008 thru 2013 (hard drive firmware engineer) and he said he wasn’t aware there was any hard drive manufacturers in Phoenix – and especially was not aware of any Western Digital facility. My guess since assets like generators and chillers are in the auction, it was a facility long abandoned. And if you look at the age, they have been there a LONG time. That golf cart screams 1970’s to me. This news article would back that up: http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2010/05/31/daily17.html and this article from the same date talks about shutting down the same facility: http://archive.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/20100602microchip-plant-purchased.html Also would explain why my Dad didn’t know about it… it probably never became a “Western Digital” facility. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 6:34 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction More likely in my mind is that these are leftovers from a no longer used plant for spinning rust drives. The former assets of wd is what makes me curious. Makes it sounds like these were acquired from or abandoned by wd. On Dec 29, 2014 2:30 PM, Craig Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I remember seeing pictures of a WD factory or warehouse or something in Thailand, I think, that was flooded by a Tsunami a few years ago. Any chance they're trying to sell off stuff involved in that event? Craig Quoting Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com: Western digital is still going strong. They even bought Hitachi a while back. Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction. On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Where did you see that? I can't find anything on it, other than some April Fool's joke. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Seagate, years ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
a clear answer from the man never hurts, but cambium is motorola, neither of which are known for their forthrightness look at the 320 lie their salesmen pushed right up til the dying breath. we are big boys round here, we can handle the truth, no matter what you think colonial nathan R jessup suggests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMqDXxkGNKg On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:53 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't think we'll see anything new for FSK for a while. Hopefully that changes. But I keep bugging them about that whole no radio left behind thing. Or in this case, no platform left behind. FSK won't die. On 12/29/2014 5:38 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: so far no :-( -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 2:20 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: :-( but no fsk? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: 13.2.1 on PMP450/430. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: they have a downloadable config file? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works with one browser... If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop. Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925