Re: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick

2014-12-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Grout the valleys and use redheads or plastic or lead molys.

From: Rory Conaway via Af 
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 6:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick

I’ve got some buildings that have a decorative brick on the side that has peaks 
and valleys of up to 1.5” I need to mount brackets against them meaning I need 
a tool that can ream away the brick until I have a smooth area to mount the 
bracket against it. Imagine a hole saw that that is just flat or something like 
a counter sink tool.  Can someone please tell me what that’s called?

 

Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless
4226 S. 37th Street
Phoenix, Az.  85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

 

“Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”

 


Re: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick

2014-12-29 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Interesting, you are suggesting filling it in.  I will test that.  Thanks.  

 

rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 8:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick

 

Grout the valleys and use redheads or plastic or lead molys.

 

From: Rory Conaway via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 6:45 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick

 

I’ve got some buildings that have a decorative brick on the side that has peaks 
and valleys of up to 1.5” I need to mount brackets against them meaning I need 
a tool that can ream away the brick until I have a smooth area to mount the 
bracket against it. Imagine a hole saw that that is just flat or something like 
a counter sink tool.  Can someone please tell me what that’s called?

 

Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless
4226 S. 37th Street
Phoenix, Az.  85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

 

“Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”

 



[AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are 
traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis?

Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Eric Muehleisen via Af
Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals.

On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time,
 are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular
 basis?



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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] UBNT equipment - Atlanta

2014-12-29 Thread Matt Hardy via Af
We do have a top-secret office in Midtown ;)
Mostly development; we don't keep a lot of equipment here though... what do
you need?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  UBNT does actually have an Atlanta office...

 and Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, Taiwan, and a few other places... :P

 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

 On 12/28/2014 05:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

 Matt lives down there...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 28, 2014 9:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc 
 t...@franklinisp.net wrote:


  I need help.  Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to
 my brother in laws.  They moved to another house in Cobb County.  Have a
 three story home with a Belkin.  Wifi sucks.  Will never be able to work
 here !  Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ?

 Sent from my iPhone
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 Members mailing 
 listMembers@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members





Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] UBNT equipment - Atlanta

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
I think he'd be happy with a Pico and/or Nanostation.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Matt Hardy via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 We do have a top-secret office in Midtown ;)
 Mostly development; we don't keep a lot of equipment here though... what
 do you need?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  UBNT does actually have an Atlanta office...

 and Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, Taiwan, and a few other places... :P

 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

 On 12/28/2014 05:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

 Matt lives down there...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 28, 2014 9:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc 
 t...@franklinisp.net wrote:


  I need help.  Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to
 my brother in laws.  They moved to another house in Cobb County.  Have a
 three story home with a Belkin.  Wifi sucks.  Will never be able to work
 here !  Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ?

 Sent from my iPhone
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 Members mailing 
 listMembers@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members






Re: [AFMUG] Balting Networks selling AF5 for $850

2014-12-29 Thread Ben Moore via Af
Thanks for the detail.  Have you already worked with support on these?  How
many links do you have like this?  You have 2 that are solid and then a
couple that are not?

Thanks,
Ben

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:33 PM, cjwstudios via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I think six come on a pallet.  Sitting on two pallets now I suppose.


 I have one 16 mi link running a consistent 96 meg up/down at 30mhz and a 5
 mile link running 5.7/5.4 70 down 30 up.  These links are rock solid, no
 problems.

 Remainder of the links, from 3 miles to 10, can't get worthwhile
 throughput on any of them.  It seems like they tolerate no noise at all
 whatsoever whereas a pair of tik netboxes in the same location link up at
 270/300 and just work.

 Tried the latest betas, which are better.  The AF24's on the other hand,
 work great in every application I've tried.  I just keep hoping a magic
 new AF fw will come out that helps make these AF5's more usable.

 Keeping the faith

 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Ben Moore via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 What issues are you having?

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Dec 24, 2014, at 11:08 AM, cjwstudios via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I bought a pallet of AF5's...still waiting to see if a FW version comes
 out that makes them useful.  I'm not too impressed.

 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 The antennas are too small to be useful in most places.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

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 *From: *Carl Peterson via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 22, 2014 9:49:02 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Balting Networks selling AF5 for $850


 I get the feeling that AF5s aren't selling too well and there is a bunch
 of old inventory they are trying to move.  AF24s are still selling well.

 On Dec 22, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Keefe John via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 It'd be nice to see the AF24 @ $850 too.


 On 12/22/2014 8:38 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

  Well crap, that was not supposed to happen. Baltic is selling the AF5
 for $850. Is this the new normal, not $995?  150 bucks off makes it
 somewhat more attractive versus some other options, if I can use it for
 short distance FDD-like links and keep it in 1024QAM mode.

  On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:









Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
If we poll every minute or every 5 minutes, catching traps may not be important.
If we don’t poll, I worry that we will miss a trap due to it being UDP.

From: Eric Muehleisen via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals. 

On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are 
traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis?


-- 
Sent via mobile


Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
Yeah polling is logging things that are expected, traps are trying to know
whether something unexpected happened or not. Traps are good for logging
things that dont require a high degree of accuracy, or for alerting a
specific condition i real time

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   If we poll every minute or every 5 minutes, catching traps may not be
 important.
 If we don’t poll, I worry that we will miss a trap due to it being UDP.

  *From:* Eric Muehleisen via Af af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 9:52 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

 Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals.

 On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data
 real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on
 a regular basis?



 --
 Sent via mobile




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All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
I think that is the general consensus.  Trapping at first glance appears to be 
the solution for alerting until the reliability comes into question due to the 
lack of some sort of ACK within the protocol.  Forrest has talked about this 
numerous times and likely has some hard fought lessons learned.  Maybe he will 
chime in.

 

It would be nice if Cacti had some sort of statefull mechanism to switch to a 
higher frequency “ping” once a device fails to respond to the standard 5 minute 
check-in schedule.  A 5 minute old alert would be fine but you really need to 
wait for two or more poles to confirm and with such a slow sample rate 10 or 15 
minutes becomes a little tardy for some targets.  The other desirable 
requirement is for a hierarchal tree so that a backhaul outage doesn’t trigger 
a landslide of alerts from all the devices on the other side on the downed 
link.  I believe there are other monitoring systems that do both of these 
things but I have no experience beyond Cacti.

 

PC

Blaze Broadband

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

 

If we poll every minute or every 5 minutes, catching traps may not be important.

If we don’t poll, I worry that we will miss a trap due to it being UDP.

 

From: Eric Muehleisen via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:52 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

 

Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals. 

On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are 
traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis?



-- 
Sent via mobile



Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
SNMPc has a good dependency system for minimizing cascading alerts


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I think that is the general consensus.  Trapping at first glance appears
 to be the solution for alerting until the reliability comes into question
 due to the lack of some sort of ACK within the protocol.  Forrest has
 talked about this numerous times and likely has some hard fought lessons
 learned.  Maybe he will chime in.



 It would be nice if Cacti had some sort of statefull mechanism to switch
 to a higher frequency “ping” once a device fails to respond to the standard
 5 minute check-in schedule.  A 5 minute old alert would be fine but you
 really need to wait for two or more poles to confirm and with such a slow
 sample rate 10 or 15 minutes becomes a little tardy for some targets.  The
 other desirable requirement is for a hierarchal tree so that a backhaul
 outage doesn’t trigger a landslide of alerts from all the devices on the
 other side on the downed link.  I believe there are other monitoring
 systems that do both of these things but I have no experience beyond Cacti.



 PC

 Blaze Broadband





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via
 Af
 *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:18 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling



 If we poll every minute or every 5 minutes, catching traps may not be
 important.

 If we don’t poll, I worry that we will miss a trap due to it being UDP.



 *From:* Eric Muehleisen via Af af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 9:52 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling



 Both. Traps for realtime alerting and polling for historicals.

 On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time,
 are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular
 basis?



 --
 Sent via mobile




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Poll for data, use traps for emergencies or unusual events that you 
don't want to wait around for.


Belt and suspenders I guess.  Poll to collect all your data; historical 
and otherwise.  Use traps for alert situations. Important caveat is that 
traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad things are happening on the 
network.


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 8:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data 
real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll 
everything on a regular basis?




[AFMUG] wireless router video

2014-12-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Looking for the link to the belkin or dlink video telling folks to get the 
router up off the floor.  

Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

2014-12-29 Thread Kevin Pesenecker via Af

AXIS Q6042-E Network Camera

We have several and there great, can really stand up to the weather


Kevin Pesenecker
IT Mananger
Crestone  Colorado Central Telecom
ke...@crestonetelecom.com
719-937-7700 ext 101
719-588-8043 Cell
skype: kevinpez

On 12/26/2014 8:46 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
I've heard a lot of good about the new UniFi cameras, though I haven't 
used one myself.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL


*From: *Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 8:14:43 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

Define “useful”.  This is not a security application so we don’t need 
to be able to read license plates.  Don’t you guys ever have customers 
ask you what the view looks like from up there?  My response is 
usually ‘why don’t you climb with me and take a look’. I was thinking 
a camera would give them the “gee that is neat” view and the 
occasional check of the weather.  The problem is that I don’t know 
what the image would look like with a $250 camera vs a $1500 camera.  
Or is more $ required?  Just wondering what others have done.


EverFocus has a 2 MP 20x optical zoom H.264 speed dome camera EPN4220 
for ~$1,550.  Wondering what that would look like.


Oh.  Its 24VAC.  Yuk.  Are all these type cameras going to be AC?  30W 
and 10/100.  So I guess I could do a passive POE with custom injectors 
at each end.  Not horrible.


PC

Blaze Broadband

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af
*Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 8:29 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

Seriously?� That would require a serious zoom/telephoto lens to get 
you any kind of decent resolution. I don't know anything off the top 
of my head that would be useful at a half mile.



--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
  


On 12/26/2014 3:18 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote:

I�m thinking 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile would be fine.� Forget the
IR thing.� Not needed.� Good day time image is what people
will want to look at I think.

�

�

�

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
via Af
*Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 5:46 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

�

What kind of distance are you talking about?� Critical issue if
you wanted IR, because there are serious limitations on how far
you will get decent video with IR (no greater than 100', and that
might be a stretch).� But the distance would dictate what kind
of magnification/lenses are required.



--

bp

part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

�

On 12/26/2014 2:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote:

This question comes up on the list periodically but I
haven�t seen if for a while.� A 400 ft tower owner wants a
camera to look down on his commercial business park.� We
might install and provide local bandwidth for free if they buy
the camera.� A little good will between us, them, and the
community. �So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone,
how much money are we talking to get something that doesn�t
suck?

�

It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution.� Good low
light would be nice but no IR illuminators needed,
obviously.� I assume a small heater is required to avoid
condensation but I don�t know that.� Are these available POE?

�

PC

Blaze Broadband

�

�






Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af

SNMP polling is normally UDP as well :P

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/29/2014 09:19 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
Poll for data, use traps for emergencies or unusual events that you 
don't want to wait around for.


Belt and suspenders I guess.  Poll to collect all your data; 
historical and otherwise.  Use traps for alert situations. Important 
caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad things are 
happening on the network.


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 8:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data 
real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll 
everything on a regular basis?







[AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser via Af
I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I
can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it
would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better,
Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle
going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface
is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes
me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the
firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a
backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the
bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the
fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird
outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up
with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a
wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.

Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save
us all




Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110


Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af

On 12/29/14 8:46, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time,
are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a
regular basis?




Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Ryan Goldberg via Af
I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to the field 
one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me!

After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist.

We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no 
longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get 
better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the 
latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong 
direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! 
Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config 
one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a 
template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring 
out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these 
radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in 
them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of 
these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even 
have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a 
few weeks back.

Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
all




Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.comhttp://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110


Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Simon Westlake via Af

Yeah, but at least you can treat a failed poll response as a failure.

On 12/29/2014 12:37 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote:

SNMP polling is normally UDP as well :P
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com
On 12/29/2014 09:19 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
Poll for data, use traps for emergencies or unusual events that you 
don't want to wait around for.


Belt and suspenders I guess.� Poll to collect all your data; 
historical and otherwise.� Use traps for alert situations. 
Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad 
things are happening on the network.


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 8:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data 
real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll 
everything on a regular basis?







--
Simon Westlake
Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
powercode.com http://powercode.com
P: 920-351-1010
E: si...@powercode.com


[AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE

2014-12-29 Thread Traci via Af
We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this 
hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just 
West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also on 
the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to the 
hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental breakfast 
and free internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, there are 
many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an option.


Ramada Inn
1659 West North Temple
801-533-9000

We will update the website today with this information as well.
Thanks - see you in a few weeks!
Traci



Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3565975/why-is-snmp-usually-run-over-udp-and-not-tcp-ip

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/29/2014 09:43 AM, Simon Westlake via Af wrote:

Yeah, but at least you can treat a failed poll response as a failure.

On 12/29/2014 12:37 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote:

SNMP polling is normally UDP as well :P
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com
On 12/29/2014 09:19 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
Poll for data, use traps for emergencies or unusual events that 
you don't want to wait around for.


Belt and suspenders I guess.� Poll to collect all your data; 
historical and otherwise.� Use traps for alert situations. 
Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad 
things are happening on the network.


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 8:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data 
real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll 
everything on a regular basis?











Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af

On 12/29/14 10:19, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad
things are happening on the network.



Use an SNMP inform instead of a trap, if the device supports it.

~Seth


Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af

This.

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/29/2014 09:47 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:

On 12/29/14 10:19, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad
things are happening on the network.



Use an SNMP inform instead of a trap, if the device supports it.

~Seth




[AFMUG] OT need apple help

2014-12-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or 
firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there 
any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high 
school, and I think that was pre OSX.


Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of 
the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I 
would be jumping off the roof myself. 

Sent from my iPhone 


Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 

On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 






I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field 
one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! 

After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. 

We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out 
now. 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no 
longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get 
better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the 
latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong 
direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! 
Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config 
one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a 
template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring 
out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these 
radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in 
them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of 
these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even 
have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a 
few weeks back. 



Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
all 












Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 




Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af

Google?

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/29/2014 10:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery 
or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is 
there any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple 
since high school, and I think that was pre OSX.




Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
The interface is pretty clunky.  It needs to be made more responsive.  The
alignment functionality is a an absolute joke.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics
 of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


 Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those
 radios I would be jumping off the roof myself.

 Sent from my iPhone

 Kurt Fankhauser
 Wavelinc Communications
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 http://www.wavelinc.com
 tel. 419-562-6405
 fax. 419-617-0110

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to the
 field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with
 me!



 After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a
 desist.



 We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs
 out now.



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af
 *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!



 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I
 can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it
 would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better,
 Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle
 going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface
 is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes
 me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the
 firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a
 backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the
 bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the
 fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird
 outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up
 with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a
 wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.



 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save
 us all









 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110





Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The 
alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 




They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of 
the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 




Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I 
would be jumping off the roof myself. 

Sent from my iPhone 


Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 

On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


blockquote



I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field 
one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! 

After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. 

We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out 
now. 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no 
longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get 
better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the 
latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong 
direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! 
Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config 
one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a 
template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring 
out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these 
radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in 
them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of 
these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even 
have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a 
few weeks back. 



Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
all 












Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 



/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Ryan Goldberg via Af
I had a pair of units in the field that would not allow themselves to be fully 
reset to defaults.

At first I blamed the desk tech who did the config.

Then I blamed the field guy for not being able to reset it.

Then I drove out there.

It was probably a couple of bad units (fair, I guess) but we were also 
suffering some pretty serious DFS issues on another pair of links, so, we’re 
waiting it out at his point.

Ryan



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of 
the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL


From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I 
would be jumping off the roof myself.

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to the field 
one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me!

After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist.

We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no 
longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get 
better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the 
latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong 
direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! 
Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config 
one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a 
template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring 
out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these 
radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in 
them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of 
these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even 
have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a 
few weeks back.

Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
all




Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.comhttp://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110



Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as
bad as it is.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

 The interface is pretty clunky.  It needs to be made more responsive.  The
 alignment functionality is a an absolute joke.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the
 mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


 Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those
 radios I would be jumping off the roof myself.

 Sent from my iPhone

 Kurt Fankhauser
 Wavelinc Communications
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 http://www.wavelinc.com
 tel. 419-562-6405
 fax. 419-617-0110

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to
 the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle
 with me!



 After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a
 desist.



 We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs
 out now.



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af
 *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!



 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I
 can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it
 would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better,
 Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle
 going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface
 is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes
 me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the
 firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a
 backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the
 bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the
 fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird
 outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up
 with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a
 wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.



 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save
 us all









 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110







Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Stefan Englhardt via Af
Beeing an early adopter is hard with every gear. You need luck to get a working 
device/firmware. We did one test tower which does not work due to dfs issues, 
than we had a bad sm we used for testing. Now they work quite well for us. 

The web interface needs a fast pc to be usable. It is slow but works.


The epmp needs still a lot of work but you see progress.





Von: Tyler Treat via Af
Gesendet: ‎Montag‎, ‎29‎. ‎Dezember‎ ‎2014 ‎19‎:‎59
An: Tyler Treat via Af





Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I 
would be jumping off the roof myself.

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to the 
 field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me!
  
 After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist.
  
 We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out 
 now.
  
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
  
 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can 
 no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would 
 get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just 
 loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in 
 the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster 
 than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 
 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware 
 and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup 
 config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all 
 day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that 
 already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime 
 i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming 
 out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i 
 got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.
  
 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
 all
  
  
  
  
 Kurt Fankhauser
 Wavelinc Communications
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 http://www.wavelinc.com
 tel. 419-562-6405
 fax. 419-617-0110

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Perhaps a live demo during AF Cambium QA session?

From: Josh Luthman via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad 
as it is.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com





--

  From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


  The interface is pretty clunky.  It needs to be made more responsive.  The 
alignment functionality is a an absolute joke.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics 
of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com







From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 



Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios 
I would be jumping off the roof myself.

Sent from my iPhone 

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:


  I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to the 
field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me!



  After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a 
desist.



  We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs 
out now.



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!



  I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I 
can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it 
would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just 
loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in 
the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster 
than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes 
to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try 
to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always 
erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with 
these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have 
characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal 
with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my 
mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so 
frustrated with one a few weeks back.



  Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save 
us all









  Kurt Fankhauser

  Wavelinc Communications

  P.O. Box 126

  Bucyrus, OH 44820

  http://www.wavelinc.com

  tel. 419-562-6405

  fax. 419-617-0110






Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser via Af
i've got a toughbook cf-31 with an i5 processor and it struggles with the epmp

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 Beeing an early adopter is hard with every gear. You need luck to get a 
 working device/firmware. We did one test tower which does not work due to dfs 
 issues, than we had a bad sm we used for testing. Now they work quite well 
 for us.
 The web interface needs a fast pc to be usable. It is slow but works.
 
 The epmp needs still a lot of work but you see progress.
 
 Von: Tyler Treat via Af
 Gesendet: ‎Montag‎, ‎29‎. ‎Dezember‎ ‎2014 ‎19‎:‎59
 An: Tyler Treat via Af
 
 Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I 
 would be jumping off the roof myself.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Kurt Fankhauser
 Wavelinc Communications
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 http://www.wavelinc.com
 tel. 419-562-6405
 fax. 419-617-0110
 
  On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
  
  I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to the 
  field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with 
  me!
   
  After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a 
  desist.
   
  We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out 
  now.
   
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
   
  I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I 
  can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it 
  would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, 
  Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle 
  going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface 
  is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes 
  me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the 
  firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a 
  backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the 
  bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the 
  fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird 
  outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up 
  with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a 
  wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.
   
  Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save 
  us all
   
   
   
   
  Kurt Fankhauser
  Wavelinc Communications
  P.O. Box 126
  Bucyrus, OH 44820
  http://www.wavelinc.com
  tel. 419-562-6405
  fax. 419-617-0110


Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af
Well. I already said the alignment function is sh!t and I stand by that.  Just 
turn the damn thing into a Canopy spin off with the same features.  Engineers 
seem to over complicate things.  (Like a woman)

Sorry 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can 
 no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would 
 get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just 
 loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in 
 the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster 
 than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 
 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware 
 and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup 
 config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all 
 day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that 
 already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime 
 i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming 
 out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i 
 got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.
 
 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
 all
 
 
 
 
 Kurt Fankhauser
 Wavelinc Communications
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 http://www.wavelinc.com
 tel. 419-562-6405
 fax. 419-617-0110


Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

2014-12-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af

Try this:

http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery 
or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is 
there any way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple 
since high school, and I think that was pre OSX.






Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Wireless Admin via Af
Glad to see someone else go on a rant about this.  I spent half the day
Saturday getting relatively nowhere with a couple of these units.  Let's
face it, there is a lot that's right about them but the frustrations:



*   Admin Interface Slw.
*   Two people can not be in the radio at one time.  New knocks existing
out without warning.
*   Editing fields with existing content results in unpredictable
(unexplainable) results.
*   Upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3.x results in locked config that can not be
resolved without pin reset.
*   Management interface accessible from Internet despite second IP
configured for management. (Cambium committed to fix for next release)
*   

 

The radios seem to run nice but OUCH.

 

Steve B

 

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

 

I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can
no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would
get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just
loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in
the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster
than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30
minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware
and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup
config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all
day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that
already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome.
Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with
obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall
in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.

 

Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us
all

 

 

 

 

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com/ http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110



Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 
and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near 
instantaneous. 

It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not 
involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad 
as it is. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 




Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Josh Luthman via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The 
alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote


They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of 
the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 




Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I 
would be jumping off the roof myself. 

Sent from my iPhone 


Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 

On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


blockquote



I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field 
one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! 

After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. 

We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out 
now. 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no 
longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get 
better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the 
latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong 
direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! 
Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config 
one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a 
template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring 
out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these 
radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in 
them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of 
these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even 
have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a 
few weeks back. 



Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
all 












Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 



/blockquote



/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
What browser do you use?

From: Mike Hammett via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 
and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous.

It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not 
involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad 
as it is.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com





--

  From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


  The interface is pretty clunky.  It needs to be made more responsive.  The 
alignment functionality is a an absolute joke.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics 
of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com







From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 



Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios 
I would be jumping off the roof myself.

Sent from my iPhone 

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:


  I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to the 
field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me!



  After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a 
desist.



  We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs 
out now.



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!



  I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I 
can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it 
would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just 
loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in 
the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster 
than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes 
to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try 
to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always 
erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with 
these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have 
characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal 
with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my 
mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so 
frustrated with one a few weeks back.



  Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save 
us all









  Kurt Fankhauser

  Wavelinc Communications

  P.O. Box 126

  Bucyrus, OH 44820

  http://www.wavelinc.com

  tel. 419-562-6405

  fax. 419-617-0110







Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Jay Weekley via Af
I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it 
would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP 
was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. 
Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and 
Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the 
same issue with a newer laptop.


Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:
I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. 
I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I 
thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not 
getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its 
still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying 
out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 
11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of 
these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload 
a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always 
erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day 
fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields 
that already have characters in them without getting some weird 
outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end 
up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole 
punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few 
weeks back.


Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and 
save us all





Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110





Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Chrome Version 39.0.2171.95 m (64-bit) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:26:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 




What browser do you use? 




From: Mike Hammett via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:24 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 
and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near 
instantaneous. 

It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not 
involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad 
as it is. 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 




Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Josh Luthman via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The 
alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote


They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of 
the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 




Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I 
would be jumping off the roof myself. 

Sent from my iPhone 

Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 

On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


blockquote



I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field 
one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! 

After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. 

We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out 
now. 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no 
longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get 
better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the 
latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong 
direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! 
Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config 
one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a 
template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring 
out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these 
radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in 
them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of 
these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even 
have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a 
few weeks back. 



Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
all 












Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 



/blockquote



/blockquote





Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Everything I have is 2.3.

Aligning the radios suck - the 5 second refresh is the best option =(

Ubnt had it right - nice little pop up that simply gave you the RSSI every
second (and would even beep!!!)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running
 2.2 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near
 instantaneous.

 It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything
 not involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

 Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it
 as bad as it is.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

 The interface is pretty clunky.  It needs to be made more responsive.
 The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the
 mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


 Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those
 radios I would be jumping off the roof myself.

 Sent from my iPhone

 Kurt Fankhauser
 Wavelinc Communications
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 http://www.wavelinc.com
 tel. 419-562-6405
 fax. 419-617-0110

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to
 the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle
 with me!



 After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a
 desist.



 We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs
 out now.



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af
 *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!



 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I
 can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it
 would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better,
 Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle
 going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface
 is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes
 me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the
 firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a
 backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the
 bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the
 fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird
 outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up
 with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a
 wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.



 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and
 save us all









 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110









Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

2014-12-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
Step one: Remove any peripherals
Step two: remove all power sources
Step three: throw in trash


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Try this:

 http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:

 One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or
 firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any
 way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school,
 and I think that was pre OSX.





-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

2014-12-29 Thread Reggie Darden via Af
Power up holding the option key. They should allow you to boot to the recovery 
partition where you can reset the password. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 Google?
 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
 On 12/29/2014 10:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
 One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or 
 firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any 
 way to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, 
 and I think that was pre OSX.
 


Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser via Af
you must have a quad core processor, try it from a slower machine

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 
 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near 
 instantaneous.
 
 It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not 
 involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
 
 Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as 
 bad as it is.
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM
 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
 
 The interface is pretty clunky.  It needs to be made more responsive.  The 
 alignment functionality is a an absolute joke.
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics 
 of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure?
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
 
 
 Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios 
 I would be jumping off the roof myself.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Kurt Fankhauser
 Wavelinc Communications
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 http://www.wavelinc.com
 tel. 419-562-6405
 fax. 419-617-0110
 
 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 I was a relatively early adopter.  Not believing my techs, I went to the 
 field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with 
 me!
 
  
 
 After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a 
 desist.
 
  
 
 We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out 
 now.
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
 
  
 
 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I 
 can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it 
 would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, 
 Just loaded the  latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle 
 going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface 
 is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes 
 me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the 
 firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a 
 backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the 
 bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the 
 fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird 
 outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up 
 with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a 
 wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.
 
  
 
 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save 
 us all
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 Kurt Fankhauser
 
 Wavelinc Communications
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 http://www.wavelinc.com
 tel. 419-562-6405
 fax. 419-617-0110
 
 


Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Six core, actually, but it's a 5 year old six core processor running on a 
system with 321 processes happening at the moment and 90% of my 16 GB of RAM 
filled. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:49:29 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


you must have a quad core processor, try it from a slower machine 

Sent from my iPhone 


Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 

On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 





When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 
and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near 
instantaneous. 

It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not 
involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad 
as it is. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote


Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Josh Luthman via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The 
alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote


They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of 
the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 




Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I 
would be jumping off the roof myself. 

Sent from my iPhone 


Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 

On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


blockquote



I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field 
one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! 

After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. 

We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out 
now. 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! 


I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no 
longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get 
better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the 
latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong 
direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! 
Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config 
one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a 
template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring 
out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these 
radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in 
them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of 
these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even 
have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a 
few weeks back. 



Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
all 












Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 



/blockquote



/blockquote



/blockquote



Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af

what the fu

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/29/2014 10:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

Six core, actually, but it's a 5 year old six core processor running on a 
system with 321 processes happening at the moment and 90% of my 16 GB of RAM 
filled.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -

From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:49:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


you must have a quad core processor, try it from a slower machine

Sent from my iPhone


Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote:





When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 
and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous.

It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not 
involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman via Af  af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad 
as it is.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote:

blockquote


Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: Josh Luthman via Af  af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The 
alignment functionality is a an absolute joke.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote:

blockquote


They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of 
the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af  af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!




Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I 
would be jumping off the roof myself.

Sent from my iPhone


Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote:


blockquote



I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field 
one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me!

After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist.

We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now.

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!


I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer 
deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the 
firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 
and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the 
old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it 
literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the 
firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a 
backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day 
fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have 
characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of 
these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a 
hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.



Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
all












Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110



/blockquote



/blockquote



/blockquote






Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https
interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it
consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works
with one browser...

If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO
routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium?





On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it
 would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP
 was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates.
 Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and
 Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same
 issue with a newer laptop.

 Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I
 can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it
 would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better,
 Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle
 going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface
 is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes
 me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the
 firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a
 backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the
 bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the
 fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird
 outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up
 with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a
 wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.

 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save
 us all




 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110





[AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:

http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email


Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

2014-12-29 Thread Chris Wright via Af
AFMUG: Come for the tech talk; Stay for the snark.

Chris Wright
Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

Step one: Remove any peripherals
Step two: remove all power sources
Step three: throw in trash


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Try this:

http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or 
firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way 
to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I 
think that was pre OSX.




--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
WD went under?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:


 http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 WD went under?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:


 http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925



Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
They were bought out a while back. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction 


Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? 


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 



WD went under? 


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote

There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: 


http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email
 






-- 


All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925 

/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Seagate, years ago

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 They were bought out a while back.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

 Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 WD went under?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:


 http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925






Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
Where did you see that?  I can't find anything on it, other than some April
Fool's joke.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Seagate, years ago

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 They were bought out a while back.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

 Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 WD went under?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:


 http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925






Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

2014-12-29 Thread Mathew Howard via Af
I just come for the snark...


From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Chris Wright via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

AFMUG: Come for the tech talk; Stay for the snark.

Chris Wright
Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

Step one: Remove any peripherals
Step two: remove all power sources
Step three: throw in trash


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Try this:

http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or 
firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way 
to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I 
think that was pre OSX.




--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925


[AFMUG] Ceragon Fibeair IP-20C?

2014-12-29 Thread Erich Kaiser via Af
Anyone using these?  What type of ballpark pricing for a link?  Price with
and without XPIC enabled?  If you need to hit me offlist.

Thanks!

Erich
erich at northcentraltower dot com


Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
Western digital is still going strong.  They even bought Hitachi a while
back.

Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction.
On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Where did you see that?  I can't find anything on it, other than some
 April Fool's joke.

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Seagate, years ago

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 They were bought out a while back.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

 Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 WD went under?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:


 http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
 the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925







Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
My bad. WD did the acquiring, not the selling. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:18:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction 


Western digital is still going strong. They even bought Hitachi a while back. 
Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction. 
On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 



Where did you see that? I can't find anything on it, other than some April 
Fool's joke. 


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote

Seagate, years ago 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote


They were bought out a while back. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: Jason McKemie via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction 


Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? 


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote

WD went under? 


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote

There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: 


http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email
 






-- 


All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925 

/blockquote



/blockquote

/blockquote


/blockquote



[AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Anybody here have any tricks for getting a UCM6104 to use the damn 
analog trunk?


The trunk is configured, no password on it (have tried with and 
without).Basic call routes have been configured including a catch-all, 
but whatever I do no phone will actually use the analog trunk(s).


Any pointers?

--
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com



Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Craig Baird via Af
I remember seeing pictures of a WD factory or warehouse or something  
in Thailand, I think, that was flooded by a Tsunami a few years ago.   
Any chance they're trying to sell off stuff involved in that event?


Craig


Quoting Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com:


Western digital is still going strong.  They even bought Hitachi a while
back.

Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction.
On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote:


Where did you see that?  I can't find anything on it, other than some
April Fool's joke.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:


Seagate, years ago

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:


They were bought out a while back.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

--
*From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:


WD went under?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:


There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:


http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email





--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.  
Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all  
means, do not

use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925















Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk

2014-12-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Is the trunk (FXO) actually connected to a POTS line?
Does it try, like can you monitor the POTS line and hear it go off hook?
Can you make calls to a sip trunk?

From: Josh Reynolds via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk

Anybody here have any tricks for getting a UCM6104 to use the damn analog trunk?

The trunk is configured, no password on it (have tried with and without). Basic 
call routes have been configured including a catch-all, but whatever I do no 
phone will actually use the analog trunk(s).

Any pointers?

-- 
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
I remember that flood, hard drive prices went through the freaking roof

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Craig Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I remember seeing pictures of a WD factory or warehouse or something in
 Thailand, I think, that was flooded by a Tsunami a few years ago.  Any
 chance they're trying to sell off stuff involved in that event?

 Craig


 Quoting Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com:

  Western digital is still going strong.  They even bought Hitachi a while
 back.

 Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction.
 On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Where did you see that?  I can't find anything on it, other than some
 April Fool's joke.

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  Seagate, years ago

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  They were bought out a while back.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

 Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  WD went under?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:


 http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-
 western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+
 Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_
 medium=email




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
 the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore,
 if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means,
 do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925












-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Kade Sullivan via Af
It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file.  Everything they
do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https
 interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it
 consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works
 with one browser...

 If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n SOHO
 routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium?





 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume it
 would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP
 was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates.
 Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and
 Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same
 issue with a newer laptop.

 Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I
 can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it
 would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better,
 Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle
 going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface
 is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes
 me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the
 firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a
 backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the
 bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the
 fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird
 outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up
 with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a
 wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.

 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and
 save us all




 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110






Re: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell

2014-12-29 Thread David via Af

Im not sure what to say about this :)


On 12/29/2014 03:58 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls 
enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase 
until all Hell breaks loose.


2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in 
Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes 
over.


So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman 
year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' 
and take into account the fact that I slept with her the next night, 
then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is 
exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory 
is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not 
accepting any more souls and is therefore extinct...leaving only 
Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains 
why Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.'


(an oldie but goodie, I wish I could take credit)




Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af

13.2.1 on PMP450/430.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

they have a downloadable config file?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. 
Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point.


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the
http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in
such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the
client-side browser and only works with one browser...

If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22
802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs,
why not Cambium?





On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I
would assume it would work with an updated browser since
every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable.
I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome
will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all
and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another
tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop.

Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for
non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow
and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get
better as the firmware matured but its not getting any
better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its
still slower than a turtle going in the wrong
direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo
interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it
doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to
config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade
the firmware and try to upload a template to one.
(never does want to take a backup config is always
erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the
bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't
even type text in the fields that already have
characters in them without getting some weird outcome.
Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i
always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth
and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop
cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.

Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware
for these and save us all




Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110







--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if 
you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk

2014-12-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af

Yes.
I'm assuming it can since calls to the office go to the phone correctly.
This is an in-office setup only. No sip trunks, just a few analog 
devices on FXS ports on sip gateways, and some sip android clients that 
register directly with the UCM6104.


josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/29/2014 12:36 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Is the trunk (FXO) actually connected to a POTS line?
Does it try, like can you monitor the POTS line and hear it go off hook?
Can you make calls to a sip trunk?

From: Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] offtopic - grandstream analog trunk

Anybody here have any tricks for getting a UCM6104 to use the damn analog trunk?

The trunk is configured, no password on it (have tried with and without). Basic 
call routes have been configured including a catch-all, but whatever I do no 
phone will actually use the analog trunk(s).

Any pointers?





Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Jay Weekley via Af

Prior to reloading the laptop it even worked with PTP 450.

Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https 
interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it 
consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only 
works with one browser...


If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n 
SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium?






On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would
assume it would work with an updated browser since every other
radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded
my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP
interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give constant script
errors. We have another tech that has the same issue with a newer
laptop.

Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for
non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and
horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the
firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded
the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle
going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old
Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it
doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one
of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and
try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a
backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be
sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You
can't even type text in the fields that already have
characters in them without getting some weird outcome.
Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end
up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a
hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated
with one a few weeks back.

Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for
these and save us all




Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110







Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
:-( but no fsk?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  13.2.1 on PMP450/430.

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

 they have a downloadable config file?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file.  Everything
 they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point.

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https
 interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it
 consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works
 with one browser...

 If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n
 SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium?





 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume
 it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but ePMP
 was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates.
 Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and
 Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the same
 issue with a newer laptop.

 Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff.
 I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought
 it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any 
 better,
 Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle
 going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo 
 interface
 is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally 
 takes
 me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the
 firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a
 backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the
 bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the
 fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird
 outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up
 with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in 
 a
 wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.

 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and
 save us all




 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110







  --
  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-29 Thread joseph marsh via Af
Thanks. Everyone  I got issue fixed.
On Dec 27, 2014 11:07 AM, Butch Evans via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 On 12/26/2014 01:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote:

 I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip
 gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get
 no route to host

 What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple

  If you had load sharing turned on, you may want to send the output of
 the following terminal commands:
 /ip route rule print
 /ip firewall mangle print

 --
 Butch Evans
 702-537-0979
 Network Support and Engineering
 http://store.wispgear.net/
 http://www.butchevans.com/



Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-29 Thread joseph marsh via Af
Gateway address was wrong   charter communications fault I had a swift fox
guy help me


Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE

2014-12-29 Thread Nate Burke via Af
I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug page 
now.  Was there some problem with it, or were they full?



On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote:
We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this 
hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just 
West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also 
on the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to 
the hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental 
breakfast and free internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, 
there are many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an 
option.


Ramada Inn
1659 West North Temple
801-533-9000

We will update the website today with this information as well.
Thanks - see you in a few weeks!
Traci




Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE

2014-12-29 Thread Traci via Af
They are changing from the Shilo to the Holiday Inn. We have had 
multiple people tell us that when they call to reserve they are told 
that the hotel will not be open until mid-February. The hotel manager 
has assured us many time that is not the case. But if people can't call 
and reserve then we have a problem. If you can get through to someone 
there who will take your reservation then great, but we figured we had 
better have an alternative lined up.


On 12/29/2014 4:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug page 
now.  Was there some problem with it, or were they full?



On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote:
We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used 
this hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is 
just West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is 
also on the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport 
directly to the hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a 
continental breakfast and free internet. Of course you can stay 
anywhere you wish, there are many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake 
City. This is just an option.


Ramada Inn
1659 West North Temple
801-533-9000

We will update the website today with this information as well.
Thanks - see you in a few weeks!
Traci






Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af

so far no

:-(

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 2:20 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

:-( but no fsk?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


13.2.1 on PMP450/430.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

they have a downloadable config file?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. 
Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this

point.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the
http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters,
in such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on
the client-side browser and only works with one browser...

If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make
$22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http
GUIs, why not Cambium?





On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old
but I would assume it would work with an updated
browser since every other radio does but ePMP was
pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops
OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP
interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give
constant script errors. We have another tech that has
the same issue with a newer laptop.

Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT
for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with
the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought
it would get better as the firmware matured but
its not getting any better, Just loaded the
latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a
turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying
out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than
this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it
literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of
these radios. By the time you upgrade the
firmware and try to upload a template to one.
(never does want to take a backup config is
always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting
at the bench all day fiddling with these radios.
You can't even type text in the fields that
already have characters in them without getting
some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with
one of these radios i always end up with
obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even
have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i
got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.

Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party
firmware for these and save us all




Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110







-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember

that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a
reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925





--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if 
you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE

2014-12-29 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af
Shuttle this year or should we rent a van again?  ;-)

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Traci via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 They are changing from the Shilo to the Holiday Inn. We have had multiple 
 people tell us that when they call to reserve they are told that the hotel 
 will not be open until mid-February. The hotel manager has assured us many 
 time that is not the case. But if people can't call and reserve then we have 
 a problem. If you can get through to someone there who will take your 
 reservation then great, but we figured we had better have an alternative 
 lined up.
 
 On 12/29/2014 4:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
 I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug page now.  
 Was there some problem with it, or were they full?
 
 
 On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote:
 We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this 
 hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just West 
 of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also on the 
 Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to the hotel. 
 $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental breakfast and free 
 internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, there are many nice 
 hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an option.
 
 Ramada Inn
 1659 West North Temple
 801-533-9000
 
 We will update the website today with this information as well.
 Thanks - see you in a few weeks!
 Traci
 


Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE

2014-12-29 Thread Nate Burke via Af
As long as they open up the back gate at the Fairpark it's 1 TRAX stop, 
or .8 miles from the Ramada.



On 12/29/2014 5:40 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af wrote:

Shuttle this year or should we rent a van again?  ;-)

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Traci via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


They are changing from the Shilo to the Holiday Inn. We have had 
multiple people tell us that when they call to reserve they are told 
that the hotel will not be open until mid-February. The hotel manager 
has assured us many time that is not the case. But if people can't 
call and reserve then we have a problem. If you can get through to 
someone there who will take your reservation then great, but we 
figured we had better have an alternative lined up.


On 12/29/2014 4:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug 
page now.  Was there some problem with it, or were they full?



On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote:
We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used 
this hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn 
is just West of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. 
It is also on the Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport 
directly to the hotel. $80 per night is the rate and includes a 
continental breakfast and free internet. Of course you can stay 
anywhere you wish, there are many nice hotels in downtown Salt Lake 
City. This is just an option.


Ramada Inn
1659 West North Temple
801-533-9000

We will update the website today with this information as well.
Thanks - see you in a few weeks!
Traci








[AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel

2014-12-29 Thread Matt via Af
Looking for an economical device with contact closure inputs that will
send email and text alerts using a provided Internet connection.  Say
a door is opened at a tower site I want an email or text message or
both.  Anyone know of anything?  Thinking of using something like an
Arduino but hate to reinvent the wheel.


Re: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel

2014-12-29 Thread Daniel White via Af
Ubiquiti mFi?

http://www.ubnt.com/mfi/mport/

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590
 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:32 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel
 
 Looking for an economical device with contact closure inputs that will send
 email and text alerts using a provided Internet connection.  Say a door is
 opened at a tower site I want an email or text message or both.  Anyone
 know of anything?  Thinking of using something like an Arduino but hate to
 reinvent the wheel.



Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC lite CPU and Memory OID

2014-12-29 Thread Peter Kranz via Af
Um.. works just fine for me, what am I missing?

 

iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.1.1.0 = Gauge32: 112800

iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.1.2.0 = Gauge32: 80720

iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.4.2.1.3.1 = Gauge32: 33

iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.4.2.1.3.2 = Gauge32: 28

iso.3.6.1.4.1.10002.1.1.1.4.2.1.3.3 = Gauge32: 18

 

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com



Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Daniel White via Af
Just spoke to my father, who worked at Western Digital from 2008 thru 2013 
(hard drive firmware engineer) and he said he wasn’t aware there was any hard 
drive manufacturers in Phoenix – and especially was not aware of any Western 
Digital facility.

 

My guess since assets like generators and chillers are in the auction, it was a 
facility long abandoned.  And if you look at the age, they have been there a 
LONG time.  That golf cart screams 1970’s to me.

 

This news article would back that up:

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2010/05/31/daily17.html

 

and this article from the same date talks about shutting down the same facility:

 

http://archive.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/20100602microchip-plant-purchased.html

 

Also would explain why my Dad didn’t know about it… it probably never became a 
“Western Digital” facility.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account) via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:34 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

 

More likely in my mind is that these are leftovers from a no longer used plant 
for spinning rust drives.

The former assets of wd is what makes me curious. Makes it sounds like these 
were acquired from or abandoned by wd.

On Dec 29, 2014 2:30 PM, Craig Baird via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com  wrote:

I remember seeing pictures of a WD factory or warehouse or something in 
Thailand, I think, that was flooded by a Tsunami a few years ago.  Any chance 
they're trying to sell off stuff involved in that event?

Craig


Quoting Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com :

Western digital is still going strong.  They even bought Hitachi a while
back.

Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction.
On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Where did you see that?  I can't find anything on it, other than some
April Fool's joke.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com  wrote:

Seagate, years ago

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com  wrote:

They were bought out a while back.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

--
*From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
*Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com 
wrote:

WD went under?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com 
wrote:

There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:


http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digital
 
http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email
 utm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email




--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





 

 







Re: [AFMUG] wireless router video

2014-12-29 Thread Sean Heskett via Af
This one?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ


On Monday, December 29, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   Looking for the link to the belkin or dlink video telling folks to get
 the router up off the floor.



Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af

No, 13.3 beta so far.

On 12/29/2014 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

13.2.1 on PMP450/430.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

they have a downloadable config file?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. 
Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point.


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the
http/https interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in
such a way that it consumes massive amounts of CPU on the
client-side browser and only works with one browser...

If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22
802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs,
why not Cambium?





On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I
would assume it would work with an updated browser since
every other radio does but ePMP was pretty much unusable.
I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates. Only Chrome
will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all
and Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another
tech that has the same issue with a newer laptop.

Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for
non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow
and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get
better as the firmware matured but its not getting
any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and
its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong
direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo
interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it
doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to
config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade
the firmware and try to upload a template to one.
(never does want to take a backup config is always
erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the
bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't
even type text in the fields that already have
characters in them without getting some weird
outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these
radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of
my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in
the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few
weeks back.

Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party
firmware for these and save us all




Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110







--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925






Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
I don't think we'll see anything new for FSK for a while. Hopefully that 
changes. But I keep bugging them about that whole no radio left behind 
thing. Or in this case, no platform left behind. FSK won't die.


On 12/29/2014 5:38 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

so far no

:-(

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 2:20 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

:-( but no fsk?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


13.2.1 on PMP450/430.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

they have a downloadable config file?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file.
Everything they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this
point.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the
http/https interface on a radio, to set basic
parameters, in such a way that it consumes massive
amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works
with one browser...

If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make
$22 802.11n SOHO routers that have acceptably usable
http GUIs, why not Cambium?





On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old
but I would assume it would work with an updated
browser since every other radio does but ePMP was
pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops
OS and updates. Only Chrome will work with the ePMP
interface. IE won't work at all and Mozilla give
constant script errors. We have another tech that
has the same issue with a newer laptop.

Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT
for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with
the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought
it would get better as the firmware matured but
its not getting any better, Just loaded the
latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than
a turtle going in the wrong direction. For
crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is
faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't
matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to
config one of these radios. By the time you
upgrade the firmware and try to upload a
template to one. (never does want to take a
backup config is always erroring out) I can't
afford to be sitting at the bench all day
fiddling with these radios. You can't even type
text in the fields that already have characters
in them without getting some weird outcome.
Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios
i always end up with obscenities coming out of
my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a
wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with
one a few weeks back.

Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party
firmware for these and save us all




Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110







-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember

that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a
reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925





--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925






[AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?

2014-12-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af


anyone?  anyone? :)


AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0)

*
Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 
*
Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States
Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 
*
Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 
SM PPPoE: Supported 
*
Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 


Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?

2014-12-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af

You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow.

On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:

anyone?  anyone? :)
AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color 
Code 0)


*
Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 
feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0

NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 9

NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported
*
Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States
Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0

NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 7

NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported
*
Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0

NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 
SectorUserCount: 0

NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
SM PPPoE: Supported
*
Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0

NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 7

NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported




Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?

2014-12-29 Thread Tyler Treat via Af
All I see is a bunch of sectors on CC 0.   :-?


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?



anyone?  anyone? :)


AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0)

*
Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported
*
Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States
Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported
*
Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
SM PPPoE: Supported
*
Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported



Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?

2014-12-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Range 0 feet?

From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?

You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow.

On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:

  �
  �
  anyone?� anyone? :)
  �
  �
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  Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0)

  *
  Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States
  Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
  *
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  ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States
  Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
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Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
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SectorUserCount: 7
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
  *
  Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States
  Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
  *
  Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States
  Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 
7
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 




Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?

2014-12-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af

hahahhahah. 
that's not the problem tho.
anyone else?

and no, 900 mhz isn't the problem.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Tyler Treat via Af 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?


  All I see is a bunch of sectors on CC 0.   :-?

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:01 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?

   

   

   

  anyone?  anyone? :)

   

   

  AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
  Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0)

  *
  Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States
  Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
  *
  Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States
  Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 7
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
  *
  Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States
  Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
  *
  Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States
  Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 
7
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 




Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?

2014-12-29 Thread timothy steele via Af
924mhz 1 has a different Becon version are you having sync issues? Also you are 
using 906 913 915 924 that's seems odd

—
Sent from Mailbox

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Range 0 feet?
 From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?
 You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow.
 On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
   �
   �
   anyone?� anyone? :)
   �
   �
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   Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0)
   *
   Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz 
   ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States
   Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
   Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet 
 MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
   Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
   NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
   FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
 SectorUserCount: 9
   NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
   WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
   SM PPPoE: Supported 
   *
   Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz 
   ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States
   Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
   Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
 MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
   Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
 Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
   NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
   FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 
 SectorUserCount: 7
   NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
   WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
   SM PPPoE: Supported 
   *
   Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
   ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States
   Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
   Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet 
 MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
   Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
 Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
   NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
   FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 
 SectorUserCount: 0
   NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 
   SM PPPoE: Supported 
   *
   Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz 
   ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States
   Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
   Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
 MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
   Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
 Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
   NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
   FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
 SectorUserCount: 7
   NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
   WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
   SM PPPoE: Supported 

Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?

2014-12-29 Thread Tyler Treat via Af
Either that or he has a new neighbor.

If so.  At least they were courteous enough to match sync.

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Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

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On Dec 29, 2014, at 9:32 PM, timothy steele via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

924mhz 1 has a different Becon version are you having sync issues? Also you are 
using 906 913 tel:906%20913%208 915 924 that's seems odd

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On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Range 0 feet?

From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Afmailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?

You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow.

On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
??(1/2)
??(1/2)
anyone???(1/2) anyone? :)
??(1/2)
??(1/2)
AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0)

*
Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported
*
Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States
Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported
*
Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
SM PPPoE: Supported
*
Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 
25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported




Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?

2014-12-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af


I'll post again when someone guesses correctly... :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ken Hohhof via Af 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?


  Range 0 feet?

  From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af 
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?

  You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow.

  On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:

�
�
anyone?� anyone? :)
�
�
AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0)

*
Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 9
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 
*
Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States
Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 7
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 
*
Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 
SectorUserCount: 0
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 
SM PPPoE: Supported 
*
Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States
Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan 
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 7
NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 




Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?

2014-12-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af

we're getting there.  (and this is not all me).

what's odd about that?


  - Original Message - 
  From: timothy steele via Af 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Cc: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?


  924mhz 1 has a different Becon version are you having sync issues? Also you 
are using 906 913 915 924 that's seems odd

  —
  Sent from Mailbox 



  On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:


Range 0 feet?

From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval?

You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow.

On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:

  �
  �
  anyone?� anyone? :)
  �
  �
  AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
  Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 
0)

  *
  Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States
  Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 9
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
  *
  Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States
  Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 7
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
  *
  Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States
  Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 
SectorUserCount: 0
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
  *
  Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States
  Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 7
  NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 






Re: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel

2014-12-29 Thread Jeremy via Af
Site Monitor?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Ubiquiti mFi?

 http://www.ubnt.com/mfi/mport/

 Daniel White
 (303) 746-3590
  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:32 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel
 
  Looking for an economical device with contact closure inputs that will
 send
  email and text alerts using a provided Internet connection.  Say a door
 is
  opened at a tower site I want an email or text message or both.  Anyone
  know of anything?  Thinking of using something like an Arduino but hate
 to
  reinvent the wheel.




Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel info - UPDATE

2014-12-29 Thread Jeremy via Af
Well I'd love to stay in a newly remodeled hotel.  I think I'll try the
Shilo Holiday Express tomorrow and see if I have any luck.  How many others
have reserved there successfully?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  As long as they open up the back gate at the Fairpark it's 1 TRAX stop,
 or .8 miles from the Ramada.


 On 12/29/2014 5:40 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af wrote:

 Shuttle this year or should we rent a van again?  ;-)

 Jeff Broadwick
 ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
 312-205-2519 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell
 jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

 On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Traci via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  They are changing from the Shilo to the Holiday Inn. We have had
 multiple people tell us that when they call to reserve they are told that
 the hotel will not be open until mid-February. The hotel manager has
 assured us many time that is not the case. But if people can't call and
 reserve then we have a problem. If you can get through to someone there who
 will take your reservation then great, but we figured we had better have an
 alternative lined up.

 On 12/29/2014 4:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:

 I see you've taken the shilo/holiday inn completely off the afmug page
 now.  Was there some problem with it, or were they full?



  On 12/29/2014 12:44 PM, Traci via Af wrote:

  We have secured another hotel for AF attendees. Years ago we used this
 hotel, since it has been completely renovated. The Ramada Inn is just West
 of the Fairpark and is a free Trax ride to the show. It is also on the
 Airport Trax line, so you can go from the airport directly to the hotel.
 $80 per night is the rate and includes a continental breakfast and free
 internet. Of course you can stay anywhere you wish, there are many nice
 hotels in downtown Salt Lake City. This is just an option.


   Ramada Inn

  1659 West North Temple

  801-533-9000


   We will update the website today with this information as well.

  Thanks - see you in a few weeks!

  Traci







Re: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell

2014-12-29 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
That's funny.  I have a boy going for his bachelors and masters in
Phoenix at the same time and we were just discussing this exact joke.
The one we saw was a test question to a college student who had to
answer whether Hell was exothermic or endothermic.

http://www.pinetree.net/humor/thermodynamics.html

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls
enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase
until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in
Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes
over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year
that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take
into account the fact that I slept with her the next night, then number
two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has
already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has
frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is
therefore extinct...leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the
existence of a divine being which explains why Teresa kept shouting 'Oh
my God.'

(an oldie but goodie, I wish I could take credit) 



Re: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell

2014-12-29 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Oops, meant Bachelors and Masters in Physics.  Back to back 17 hour days
as Disneyland just caught up to me.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell

That's funny.  I have a boy going for his bachelors and masters in
Phoenix at the same time and we were just discussing this exact joke.
The one we saw was a test question to a college student who had to
answer whether Hell was exothermic or endothermic.

http://www.pinetree.net/humor/thermodynamics.html

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls
enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase
until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in
Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes
over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year
that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take
into account the fact that I slept with her the next night, then number
two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has
already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has
frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is
therefore extinct...leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the
existence of a divine being which explains why Teresa kept shouting 'Oh
my God.'

(an oldie but goodie, I wish I could take credit) 



Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
hater :-)

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Just spoke to my father, who worked at Western Digital from 2008 thru 2013
 (hard drive firmware engineer) and he said he wasn’t aware there was any
 hard drive manufacturers in Phoenix – and especially was not aware of any
 Western Digital facility.



 My guess since assets like generators and chillers are in the auction, it
 was a facility long abandoned.  And if you look at the age, they have been
 there a LONG time.  That golf cart screams 1970’s to me.



 This news article would back that up:



 http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2010/05/31/daily17.html



 and this article from the same date talks about shutting down the same
 facility:




 http://archive.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/20100602microchip-plant-purchased.html



 Also would explain why my Dad didn’t know about it… it probably never
 became a “Western Digital” facility.



 Daniel White

 (303) 746-3590



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
 (List Account) via Af
 *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 6:34 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction



 More likely in my mind is that these are leftovers from a no longer used
 plant for spinning rust drives.

 The former assets of wd is what makes me curious. Makes it sounds like
 these were acquired from or abandoned by wd.

 On Dec 29, 2014 2:30 PM, Craig Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I remember seeing pictures of a WD factory or warehouse or something in
 Thailand, I think, that was flooded by a Tsunami a few years ago.  Any
 chance they're trying to sell off stuff involved in that event?

 Craig


 Quoting Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com:

 Western digital is still going strong.  They even bought Hitachi a while
 back.

 Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction.
 On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Where did you see that?  I can't find anything on it, other than some
 April Fool's joke.

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Seagate, years ago

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 They were bought out a while back.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

 Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 WD went under?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:



 http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
 the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925












-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
a clear answer from the man never hurts, but cambium is motorola, neither
of which are known for their forthrightness look at the 320 lie their
salesmen pushed right up til the dying breath. we are big boys round here,
we can handle the truth, no matter what you think colonial nathan R jessup
suggests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMqDXxkGNKg

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:53 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af 
af@afmug.com wrote:

  I don't think we'll see anything new for FSK for a while. Hopefully that
 changes. But I keep bugging them about that whole no radio left behind
 thing. Or in this case, no platform left behind. FSK won't die.

 On 12/29/2014 5:38 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

 so far no

 :-(

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/29/2014 2:20 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

 :-( but no fsk?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  13.2.1 on PMP450/430.

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


  On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

 they have a downloadable config file?

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file.  Everything
 they do (or dont do) is believable to me at this point.

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 I really want to know how you can possibly screw up the http/https
 interface on a radio, to set basic parameters, in such a way that it
 consumes massive amounts of CPU on the client-side browser and only works
 with one browser...

 If even a super low budget company like TP-Link can make $22 802.11n
 SOHO routers that have acceptably usable http GUIs, why not Cambium?





 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 I thought I was the only one. My field unit is old but I would assume
 it would work with an updated browser since every other radio does but 
 ePMP
 was pretty much unusable. I finally reloaded my laptops OS and updates.
 Only Chrome will work with the ePMP interface. IE won't work at all and
 Mozilla give constant script errors. We have another tech that has the 
 same
 issue with a newer laptop.

 Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

 I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450
 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I
 thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting 
 any
 better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a
 turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo
 interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it
 literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time
 you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never 
 does
 want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be
 sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even
 type text in the fields that already have characters in them without
 getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these 
 radios
 i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a
 hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a 
 few
 weeks back.

 Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and
 save us all




 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110







  --
  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
 the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





  --
  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925






-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925