Re: [AFMUG] Marketing materials for already wired houses

[Josh Luthman]

My biggest problem with that is the person that moves out of the house
takes the POE with them.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:54 PM, David  wrote:

> We have some rental homes like this in a community and yes they are always
> on and connected but when a new client
> joins it redirects them to our site with a signup and terms/cond check box
> to agree to and they are up and running after
> they slide their card in the slot :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On 09/01/2015 01:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have anything that says your service is already available to
>> the house and that they simply need to call up and pay?  Figured I'd ask
>> before looking on the dark web.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Oh and for 2) I meant to say WAN.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> 1) Duplex mismatch.
> 2) You're using a stupid protocol which doesn't work on a LAN.  (aka
> windows file sharing).
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
>> i have a computer on a cable modem.
>>
>> I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to
>> my home.
>>
>> The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
>> My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)
>>
>> Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.
>>
>> Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Wow, that's kinda scary.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> 1) traffic shaping somewhere
> 2) you're using the wrong protocol for heavy file transfer
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:09 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
>> i have a computer on a cable modem.
>>
>> I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to
>> my home.
>>
>> The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
>> My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)
>>
>> Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.
>>
>> Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Members mailing list
>> memb...@wispa.org
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
>>
>>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[Brian Webster]

Depending on the program being used for transfer does it have a setting to only 
use a percentage of the bandwidth available? Is it the new windows 10 and does 
that have that feature enabled? Since Windows 10 now has a torrent file sharing 
feature to help distribute windows updates I would look towards that as a 
possibility.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 3:22 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has 
an answer to

 

1) traffic shaping somewhere

2) you're using the wrong protocol for heavy file transfer




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:09 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:

 


So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.

i have a computer on a cable modem.

 

I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to my 
home.

 

The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.

My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)

 

Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.  

 

Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?

 

 


___
Members mailing list
memb...@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members

 

[AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
i have a computer on a cable modem.

I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to my 
home.

The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)

Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.  

Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?

Re: [AFMUG] kinda dumb question perhaps..:)

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Should be the same.   All of those antennas are pretty much the same.
They're an antenna with a low noise amplifier in them.

About the only thing you run into is whether the external amplifier works
at 3.3V or 5V or both or some other voltage.   Since those are all the same
module, you should be fine.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Can you use a CMM3 GPS antenna with a CMM4 unit?  I know internally they
> have the same GPS board, etc.
>
>
>
> Just seeking a confirmation before I send one to a customer in a pinch J
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
>
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 office
>
> 772-473-0352 cell
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[Josh Luthman]

I should probably stop watching your screen when I'm typing my responses.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Wow, that's kinda scary.
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> 1) traffic shaping somewhere
>> 2) you're using the wrong protocol for heavy file transfer
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:09 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
>>> i have a computer on a cable modem.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to
>>> my home.
>>>
>>> The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
>>> My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)
>>>
>>> Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.
>>>
>>> Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Members mailing list
>>> memb...@wispa.org
>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

youd be faster to drobox it, the upload from the office would be limited by
the dropbox server and you would probably download at almost the full 60

You could download and install dropbox and set up an account, and move the
file all in less time than it would take using the rdp,

also, remember your default.rdp is configured for the connection the first
time you used it, do if you set it to dial up then youre crippled now

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Depending on the program being used for transfer does it have a setting to
> only use a percentage of the bandwidth available? Is it the new windows 10
> and does that have that feature enabled? Since Windows 10 now has a torrent
> file sharing feature to help distribute windows updates I would look
> towards that as a possibility.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2015 3:22 PM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Cc:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no
> one has an answer to
>
>
>
> 1) traffic shaping somewhere
>
> 2) you're using the wrong protocol for heavy file transfer
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:09 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
>
> i have a computer on a cable modem.
>
>
>
> I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to
> my home.
>
>
>
> The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
>
> My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)
>
>
>
> Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.
>
>
>
> Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ___
> Members mailing list
> memb...@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] Marketing materials for already wired houses

[Josh Luthman]

Does anyone have anything that says your service is already available to
the house and that they simply need to call up and pay?  Figured I'd ask
before looking on the dark web.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing materials for already wired houses

[David]

We have some rental homes like this in a community and yes they are 
always on and connected but when a new client
joins it redirects them to our site with a signup and terms/cond check 
box to agree to and they are up and running after

they slide their card in the slot :)




On 09/01/2015 01:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Does anyone have anything that says your service is already available 
to the house and that they simply need to call up and pay?  Figured 
I'd ask before looking on the dark web.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Cameron Crum]

There is also this...not sure if it will work for you.


https://bootstraphunter.com/theme/kapda-mart-minimal-opencart-theme-BSH040



On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Joshaven Mailing Lists 
wrote:

> A possibility:  http://www.shopify.com/starter
>
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
> Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com
>
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce
> site with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I
> have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell
> online.
>
> Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and
> shopify, and magento etc etc.
> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually
> sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Chuck McCown]

Thanks Forrest, sounds like I could do worse than bigcommerce.  

Watching the after-sharktank show the other night (whatever it is called, 
perhaps after the tank) , Mark Cuban was strongly urging the woman with the red 
dress store to not spend $400K (of his money) on re-tooling her ecommerce site. 
 He had had his guys fix up her site for free (after it crashed when she was on 
the regular shark tank show)  and I think he was insulted that she wanted to 
re-do everything with a developer.  

In any event, I discovered that she was using Magento and that is what Mark was 
urging her to stay with.  I figured that was a pretty good endorsement for a 
business with a huge number of transactions.  

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:58 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

I run on bigcommerce, but the new pricing isn't as good as I am paying.   We 
tried several others and it was such a pain to use them and/or they were 
missing features that when I found bigcommerce and it just worked, that's what 
we stuck with.   Recently, they've been removing various features (mostly all 
the useful reports), and wanting you to upgrade to get the "new improved 
version" of them.   Fortunately, I use shipstation as a shipping platform which 
is going just the other way - I can run all the reports over there.


But... I'm seriously considering moving to WordPress+Woo Commerce.   Mainly for 
the WordPress integration since we're going to need a CMS soon for corporate 
reasons.


If you care about 'too big to fail', see 
https://www.datanyze.com/market-share/e-commerce-platforms/


Note that Magento (the top market share) was one which we found just too 
cumbersome to use.   


Don't discount just adding your products to amazon and the like.


-forrest



On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce site 
with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I have some 
other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell online.

  Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and 
shopify, and magento etc etc.
  They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually sell, 
I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.  



-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

Magento is a not at all light weight.  It is quite slow in relation to the 
resources you give it.  If your going high volume and Magento then make sure 
you have it on a nice server.  I’ve done consulting work for customers that got 
over their heads with Magento.

I’d try the easy solution with something like Forrest is using.  If you find 
you need something custom then I suspect it will be worth your time to work 
with a web development team that specializes in e-commerce and use their 
preferred system.  You end up paying consulting fees that way but I suspect the 
service level and experience will be worth the trouble if you end up needing 
more then a canned e-commerce solution.

Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>  wrote:
> 
> I kinda get the impression that magento is good if  you have the time to do 
> the care and feeding.  I just found the integration time to be painful, and 
> Debbie couldn't figure out basic things.   But if I was launching a high 
> volume site, I'd be running Magento or WooCommerce.   For me, I just want 
> something I don't have to deal with.  Or more accurately, I don't have to pay 
> someone lots of money to deal with.
> 
> One thing to think about is also how many of the cool tools out there each 
> integrate with.  For instance, bigcommerce integrates with lots and lots of 
> apps...   see https://www.bigcommerce.com/apps/ 
> 
> 
> I find that what is useful is to look around at other third party tools and 
> see which ecommerce platforms are best supported.   For instance:
> 
> Shipstation (Shipping):  http://www.shipstation.com/partners/ 
> 
> Zendesk (Support): https://www.zendesk.com/apps/ 
> 
> Zapier (Very cool data moving tool): https://zapier.com/zapbook/ 
> 
>Note:  if it connects to zapier, it connects to everything that zapier 
> talks to
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:
> Thanks Forrest, sounds like I could do worse than bigcommerce. 
>  
> Watching the after-sharktank show the other night (whatever it is called, 
> perhaps after the tank) , Mark Cuban was strongly urging the woman with the 
> red dress store to not spend $400K (of his money) on re-tooling her ecommerce 
> site.  He had had his guys fix up her site for free (after it crashed when 
> she was on the regular shark tank show)  and I think he was insulted that she 
> wanted to re-do everything with a developer. 
>  
> In any event, I discovered that she was using Magento and that is what Mark 
> was urging her to stay with.  I figured that was a pretty good endorsement 
> for a business with a huge number of transactions. 
>  
> From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:58 PM
> To: af 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce
>  
> I run on bigcommerce, but the new pricing isn't as good as I am paying.   We 
> tried several others and it was such a pain to use them and/or they were 
> missing features that when I found bigcommerce and it just worked, that's 
> what we stuck with.   Recently, they've been removing various features 
> (mostly all the useful reports), and wanting you to upgrade to get the "new 
> improved version" of them.   Fortunately, I use shipstation as a shipping 
> platform which is going just the other way - I can run all the reports over 
> there.
> 
> But... I'm seriously considering moving to WordPress+Woo Commerce.   Mainly 
> for the WordPress integration since we're going to need a CMS soon for 
> corporate reasons.
> 
> If you care about 'too big to fail', see 
> https://www.datanyze.com/market-share/e-commerce-platforms/ 
> 
> 
> Note that Magento (the top market share) was one which we found just too 
> cumbersome to use.   
>  
> Don't discount just adding your products to amazon and the like.
>  
> -forrest
>  
>  
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:
> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce site 
> with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I have 
> some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell online.
>  
> Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and 
> shopify, and magento etc etc.
> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually sell, 
> I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible. 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
> Tel: 406-449-3345 <> | Address: 3577 Countryside 

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Paul McCall]

We have had good luck with Magento

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

A possibility:  http://www.shopify.com/starter

Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



On Sep 1, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:

I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce site 
with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I have some 
other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell online.

Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and shopify, 
and magento etc etc.
They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually sell, I 
want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.

Re: [AFMUG] kinda dumb question perhaps..:)

[Chuck McCown]

I think so.  The antenna is more than just an antenna, I actually made some 
timing products before Forrest started doing things.  I don’t recall if the 
antenna is just a low noise amp or if it also down converts the frequency or if 
it actually demodulates too.  In any event, I think they are the same antenna.  

Would not swear to it.  

From: Paul McCall 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kinda dumb question perhaps..:)

ATM, not practical to set one up to test.

 

Hoping someone knows the answer

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kinda dumb question perhaps..:)

 

I found the old Rocket M2/5 GPS antennas wouldn't work with AF5x.  Someone 
started discussing the difference in GPS antennas and I'm clueless on all that. 
 They're not all interchangeable.

 

Can you plug in a CMM4 unit and see if it will track?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

Can you use a CMM3 GPS antenna with a CMM4 unit?  I know internally they have 
the same GPS board, etc.

 

Just seeking a confirmation before I send one to a customer in a pinch J

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com

pa...@pdmnet.net

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Chuck McCown]

Just now stumbled upon it.  

Forrest, how has your experience been?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

Packeflux uses this: 

https://www.bigcommerce.com/pricing/



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce site 
with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I have some 
other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell online.

  Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and 
shopify, and magento etc etc.
  They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually sell, 
I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[David]

Drupal/w ubercart module

I have found over drupal maturity that it seems to have one of the more 
flexible usability.
has a medium to hard learning curve but I have done 4 sites using drupal 
and kept them maintained

without having to move to something different every few years.

There are other store modules out there. Ubercart and  Erpal are some 
very nice ready made for ecommerce tools

for building a good site.

They also have some good payment gateway support in them



On 09/01/2015 01:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce 
site with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products 
but I have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may 
want to sell online.
Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and 
shopify, and magento etc etc.
They will all do what I want, but since these products may not 
actually sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Overall, we're happy with it  The only frustration is the continued
insistence of removing useful reports.   For instance, I can't even tell
how many of a product I've sold.  And I can't find all customers who have
bought a given item.  Both of which I used to be able to do.   Their
marketing department keeps telling me about all the cool reporting features
I'm missing out on, but it doesn't look like they even gain be back what
I'm missing.

On the other hand, the stuff just works.   And since I handle all my
shipping through shipstation (which I HIGHLY RECOMMEND if you have any
volume of shipping at all), I find I can do all the reporting over
there.

The only reason I'm considering moving to the Woocommerce solution is the
tighter integration with what I'd call more of a "marketing website".
We're working on getting more product information done, and better "waht
works with what" and similar stuff done, and that's going to probably be in
a wordpress site.  At which point, it would be nice to just have the
ecommerce set up in there as well.   I'm not convinced the ecommerce
portion is going to work as well though...





On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Just now stumbled upon it.
>
> Forrest, how has your experience been?
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce
>
> Packeflux uses this:
>
> https://www.bigcommerce.com/pricing/
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce
>> site with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I
>> have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell
>> online.
>>
>> Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and
>> shopify, and magento etc etc.
>> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually
>> sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.
>>
>
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Josh Luthman]

Packeflux uses this:

https://www.bigcommerce.com/pricing/


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce
> site with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I
> have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell
> online.
>
> Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and
> shopify, and magento etc etc.
> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually
> sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I run on bigcommerce, but the new pricing isn't as good as I am paying.
We tried several others and it was such a pain to use them and/or they were
missing features that when I found bigcommerce and it just worked, that's
what we stuck with.   Recently, they've been removing various features
(mostly all the useful reports), and wanting you to upgrade to get the "new
improved version" of them.   Fortunately, I use shipstation as a shipping
platform which is going just the other way - I can run all the reports over
there.

But... I'm seriously considering moving to WordPress+Woo Commerce.   Mainly
for the WordPress integration since we're going to need a CMS soon for
corporate reasons.

If you care about 'too big to fail', see
https://www.datanyze.com/market-share/e-commerce-platforms/

Note that Magento (the top market share) was one which we found just too
cumbersome to use.

Don't discount just adding your products to amazon and the like.

-forrest


On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce
> site with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I
> have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell
> online.
>
> Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and
> shopify, and magento etc etc.
> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually
> sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

[AFMUG] kinda dumb question perhaps..:)

[Paul McCall]

Can you use a CMM3 GPS antenna with a CMM4 unit?  I know internally they have 
the same GPS board, etc.

Just seeking a confirmation before I send one to a customer in a pinch :)

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

[AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Chuck McCown]

I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce site 
with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I have some 
other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell online.

Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and shopify, 
and magento etc etc.
They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually sell, I 
want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

A possibility:  http://www.shopify.com/starter 

Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On Sep 1, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce site 
> with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I have 
> some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell online.
>  
> Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and 
> shopify, and magento etc etc.
> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually sell, 
> I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I kinda get the impression that magento is good if  you have the time to do
the care and feeding.  I just found the integration time to be painful, and
Debbie couldn't figure out basic things.   But if I was launching a high
volume site, I'd be running Magento or WooCommerce.   For me, I just want
something I don't have to deal with.  Or more accurately, I don't have to
pay someone lots of money to deal with.

One thing to think about is also how many of the cool tools out there each
integrate with.  For instance, bigcommerce integrates with lots and lots of
apps...   see https://www.bigcommerce.com/apps/

I find that what is useful is to look around at other third party tools and
see which ecommerce platforms are best supported.   For instance:

Shipstation (Shipping):  http://www.shipstation.com/partners/
Zendesk (Support): https://www.zendesk.com/apps/
Zapier (Very cool data moving tool): https://zapier.com/zapbook/
   Note:  if it connects to zapier, it connects to everything that zapier
talks to




On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Thanks Forrest, sounds like I could do worse than bigcommerce.
>
> Watching the after-sharktank show the other night (whatever it is called,
> perhaps after the tank) , Mark Cuban was strongly urging the woman with the
> red dress store to not spend $400K (of his money) on re-tooling her
> ecommerce site.  He had had his guys fix up her site for free (after it
> crashed when she was on the regular shark tank show)  and I think he was
> insulted that she wanted to re-do everything with a developer.
>
> In any event, I discovered that she was using Magento and that is what
> Mark was urging her to stay with.  I figured that was a pretty good
> endorsement for a business with a huge number of transactions.
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:58 PM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce
>
> I run on bigcommerce, but the new pricing isn't as good as I am paying.
> We tried several others and it was such a pain to use them and/or they were
> missing features that when I found bigcommerce and it just worked, that's
> what we stuck with.   Recently, they've been removing various features
> (mostly all the useful reports), and wanting you to upgrade to get the "new
> improved version" of them.   Fortunately, I use shipstation as a shipping
> platform which is going just the other way - I can run all the reports over
> there.
>
> But... I'm seriously considering moving to WordPress+Woo Commerce.
> Mainly for the WordPress integration since we're going to need a CMS soon
> for corporate reasons.
>
> If you care about 'too big to fail', see
> https://www.datanyze.com/market-share/e-commerce-platforms/
>
> Note that Magento (the top market share) was one which we found just too
> cumbersome to use.
>
> Don't discount just adding your products to amazon and the like.
>
> -forrest
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce
>> site with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products but I
>> have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell
>> online.
>>
>> Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and
>> shopify, and magento etc etc.
>> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually
>> sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

1) Duplex mismatch.
2) You're using a stupid protocol which doesn't work on a LAN.  (aka
windows file sharing).

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:

>
>
> So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
> i have a computer on a cable modem.
>
> I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to
> my home.
>
> The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
> My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)
>
> Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.
>
> Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?
>
>
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] kinda dumb question perhaps..:)

[Josh Luthman]

I found the old Rocket M2/5 GPS antennas wouldn't work with AF5x.  Someone
started discussing the difference in GPS antennas and I'm clueless on all
that.  They're not all interchangeable.

Can you plug in a CMM4 unit and see if it will track?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Can you use a CMM3 GPS antenna with a CMM4 unit?  I know internally they
> have the same GPS board, etc.
>
>
>
> Just seeking a confirmation before I send one to a customer in a pinch J
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
>
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 office
>
> 772-473-0352 cell
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>
>

[AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Chuck McCown]

Bigcommerce seems better than Shopify when it comes to the shipping options.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_shopping_cart_software

Re: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor order on SiteMonitor Manager

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

This is a new one for me as well.

Reboot?   Upgrade firmware?  Factory reset?

It looks like either the base unit is confused about which labels belong
where,  or more likely, somehow they got changed.   Everything else looks
fine.
On Aug 31, 2015 8:49 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> Dude, the relay and the switch are supposed to be on the binary/boolean
> tab. WTF. The values look right. I bet you can just rename the description
> fields to make it right. Something screwy happened, like the descriptions
> were overwritten. I've done that before. Refresh on the boolean tab and
> then switched to the analog tab without refreshing, but clicking in the
> description field and hitting enter will do it. But all of them seems odd.
> I'm thinking you didn't do that, something else happened. Not hard to fix
> though.
>
> On 8/31/2015 8:31 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> I don't use the SiteMonitor Manager much anymore, I think we only have a
> couple of SiteMonitor 1s anymore that are still in service.
>
> However, I logged into one of those units today, and the analog I/O was
> backward and/or mislabeled for the built-in sensors. This is what I got on
> the SiteMonitor Manager:
>
>
>
> But this is the same thing on a SiteMonitor II:
>
>
>
>
> This is using SiteMonitor Manager 1.3.0 build 10.
>
> Did I miss another memo?
>
> --
>
> bp
> 
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Stock question

[Edward Brooks]

Ty,
 Did you ever find that pair?

-Ed

On 8/31/2015 8:02 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:


I bet I do. I can check in the morning. Just one pair?

-Ty

On Aug 31, 2015 6:41 PM, "Edward Brooks" > wrote:


Does anyone have a pair of working PMP100 5400BH20 radios they'd
like to get rid of?

-Ed





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Re: [AFMUG] FSK SM sees AP on SA but not on AP Eval

[Ken Hohhof]

So AP Eval needs xmt to work, it's not just a passive rcv thing?


-Original Message- 
From: George Skorup 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:25 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK SM sees AP on SA but not on AP Eval 

Probably dead Tx. I've seen it a few times. Most of the time it's the 
Tx/Rx switch, which means both directions lose 20-30dB. But I've 
definitely seen only Tx or only Rx die before. The 85+ degrees the past 
few days probably contributed to its demise. Pouring sweat working at a 
tower today. That sucked.


On 9/1/2015 6:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
This SM just stopped working after several months.  I would say it 
went "deaf", but Spectrum Analyzer still works.  It sees the AP at the 
right frequency and signal level, and if I move the AP frequency 
around it's clear that interference is not the problem.  And no, it's 
not a configuration issue.


I'm sending a field tech to climb the customer's TV tower tomorrow and 
change out the SM, but I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen this 
before.


Is this a known failure mode - not deaf, but seemingly can't lock onto 
or decode beacons?

[AFMUG] FSK SM sees AP on SA but not on AP Eval

[Ken Hohhof]

This SM just stopped working after several months.  I would say it went 
"deaf", but Spectrum Analyzer still works.  It sees the AP at the right 
frequency and signal level, and if I move the AP frequency around it's clear 
that interference is not the problem.  And no, it's not a configuration 
issue.


I'm sending a field tech to climb the customer's TV tower tomorrow and 
change out the SM, but I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen this before.


Is this a known failure mode - not deaf, but seemingly can't lock onto or 
decode beacons? 

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[chuck]

Their cheap tier charges an extra 1.5% I think.  So, 3.8% would go to them if I 
want to keep my monthly expense as low as possible while I wait to see if this 
thing takes off.  

From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

We are using Shopify with one of our companies that is 99% online. We have done 
over $160,000 in a single month (avg ticket $63) and never had a single 
problem. We are using their top pricing model, so the CC fee is 2.3% (including 
the transaction fee). That's the lowest price I could find when I looked 
before. Many other e-commerce sites quote lower rates, until you actually 
factor in their "gateway" and other misc. charges.

The other advantage is you don't have to get an actual credit card merchant 
account, so there are no personal guarantees or any of that with Shopify. You 
simply sign-up, setup the site, and start selling. :)

Travis



On 9/1/2015 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce site 
with credit card payment gateway.� Not for my current products but I have 
some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell online.
  �
  Lots of options out there.� Been looking at the wordpress method, and 
shopify, and magento etc etc.
  They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually sell, 
I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.� 

Re: [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[Adam Moffett]

I like the feature of RDP where your local drives show up on the remote 
machine, which is what I think Jay is describing.  I use it all the time 
for documents.  I never gave any thought to how it works or what its 
limitations are. Maybe it tunnels SMB through the RDP connection.


I just tried it with a large file, and yes it's slow for me too. Barely 
1 meg.




They have these things called flash drives, you know.
And there is this amazing thing called Dropbox.
The only part of this I would use RDP for is to log into the remote 
computer and upload the file to Dropbox or send it via some variant of 
FTP to a server at the office.

*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:10 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com  ; memb...@wispa.org 


*Subject:* [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
i have a computer on a cable modem.
I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office 
to my home.

The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)
Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.
Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?

Re: [AFMUG] Ridiculous SLA request

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

hypothetically
(nda still exists)
boss discussed sand and punching it
They no longer have the demands

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Milholen  wrote:

> Ahh hell... Just give em 2 connections from same tower and do some fancy
> load balancing with a mikrotik at the end that you manage.
> If they can get 2 connections from 2 diff locations even better but
> suggest keeping DSL and adding you as a primary. SLA from you alone
> should be 4x the amount of those 2 connections.
>
>
> On 8/28/2015 8:37 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> Maybe they're referring to symmetric routing then? And yeah outside of a
> LAN you can't get it. It also doesn't matter outside of a LAN. There's a
> real phenomenon that can happen with firewalls where you send a TCP SYN on
> one interface and the corresponding ACK is received on a different
> interface due to an asymmetric path.  The firewall might drop the
> connection and report the ACK as being spoofed.
>
> Now I've bumped into two different LAN guys who saw asymmetric paths
> across the internet and thought it needed to be fixed.
>
>
> On 8/28/2015 9:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
>
> What if No they meant synchronous as in same path. They made that clear,
> but it clearly indicates they don't know data outside an office.
>
>
>
>
> --
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support

[Craig House]

+1

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 1, 2015, at 17:50, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> I wanted to take a second to mention how amazing mimosas support has been, 
> extremely attentive and even advance replaces bad devices with little 
> headache.
> 
> I hope when they get big they can keep this Boutique support and not turn out 
> like some of the others that have forgotten their roots. 
> 
> TJ

Re: [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[Ken Hohhof]

They have these things called flash drives, you know.

And there is this amazing thing called Dropbox.

The only part of this I would use RDP for is to log into the remote computer 
and upload the file to Dropbox or send it via some variant of FTP to a server 
at the office.


From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org 
Subject: [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to



So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
i have a computer on a cable modem.

I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to my 
home.

The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)

Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.  

Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?

Re: [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[Josh Luthman]

FTP seems right for File Transferring.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sep 1, 2015 7:37 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

> They have these things called flash drives, you know.
>
> And there is this amazing thing called Dropbox.
>
> The only part of this I would use RDP for is to log into the remote
> computer and upload the file to Dropbox or send it via some variant of FTP
> to a server at the office.
>
>
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:10 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to
>
>
>
> So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
> i have a computer on a cable modem.
>
> I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to
> my home.
>
> The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
> My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)
>
> Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.
>
> Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support

[Jason McKemie]

Now if only they'd bring out their Ptmp gear...

On Tuesday, September 1, 2015, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> yep, not only attentive, but very easy to get to... I have had many chats
> with them at odd times via their online chat app ..
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"TJ Trout"  >
> *To: *af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:50:51 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support
>
> I wanted to take a second to mention how amazing mimosas support has been,
> extremely attentive and even advance replaces bad devices with little
> headache.
>
> I hope when they get big they can keep this Boutique support and not turn
> out like some of the others that have forgotten their roots.
>
> TJ
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support

[Jaime Solorza]

Cool.  That is very important.  Small business type service even when
company gets larger
On Sep 1, 2015 4:51 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:

> I wanted to take a second to mention how amazing mimosas support has been,
> extremely attentive and even advance replaces bad devices with little
> headache.
>
> I hope when they get big they can keep this Boutique support and not turn
> out like some of the others that have forgotten their roots.
>
> TJ
>

Re: [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

well, while we're having this discussion, it was an audio file i had just 
created.  it was time sensitive, ie, i wanted to listen to it in the 30 minutes 
or so i had available.  going to dropbox would have taken a transfer and from 
dropbox to me would have taken a transfer, hence longer than just going direct. 
  FTP would have been fine but i don't have an ftp server setup at either 
place.  going to an ftp server then coming back here would be the same thing 
again - albeit if it actually transferred at 60 meg instead of 1.5 it could 
have been quicker.  but again, going two places, didn't seem quicker (instead 
of going direct)

logically i was let down when the transfer didn't utilize all of the available 
speed :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to


  FTP seems right for File Transferring.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Sep 1, 2015 7:37 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

They have these things called flash drives, you know.

And there is this amazing thing called Dropbox.

The only part of this I would use RDP for is to log into the remote 
computer and upload the file to Dropbox or send it via some variant of FTP to a 
server at the office.


From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org 
Subject: [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to



So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
i have a computer on a cable modem.

I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to my 
home.

The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)

Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.  

Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Travis Johnson]

Their cheapest package is $29/month and the rate is 2.9% plus a $.30 
transaction fee. There are no other "hidden" charges or taxes like with 
many other processors.


Travis


On 9/1/2015 5:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Their cheap tier charges an extra 1.5% I think.  So, 3.8% would go to 
them if I want to keep my monthly expense as low as possible while I 
wait to see if this thing takes off.

*From:* Travis Johnson 
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:18 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce
We are using Shopify with one of our companies that is 99% online. We 
have done over $160,000 in a single month (avg ticket $63) and never 
had a single problem. We are using their top pricing model, so the CC 
fee is 2.3% (including the transaction fee). That's the lowest price I 
could find when I looked before. Many other e-commerce sites quote 
lower rates, until you actually factor in their "gateway" and other 
misc. charges.


The other advantage is you don't have to get an actual credit card 
merchant account, so there are no personal guarantees or any of that 
with Shopify. You simply sign-up, setup the site, and start selling. :)


Travis


On 9/1/2015 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an 
ecommerce site with credit card payment gateway.� Not for my 
current products but I have some other, non internet/wisp related 
products that I may want to sell online.

�
Lots of options out there.� Been looking at the wordpress method, 
and shopify, and magento etc etc.
They will all do what I want, but since these products may not 
actually sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as 
possible.�

Re: [AFMUG] FSK SM sees AP on SA but not on AP Eval

[George Skorup]

Probably dead Tx. I've seen it a few times. Most of the time it's the 
Tx/Rx switch, which means both directions lose 20-30dB. But I've 
definitely seen only Tx or only Rx die before. The 85+ degrees the past 
few days probably contributed to its demise. Pouring sweat working at a 
tower today. That sucked.


On 9/1/2015 6:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
This SM just stopped working after several months.  I would say it 
went "deaf", but Spectrum Analyzer still works.  It sees the AP at the 
right frequency and signal level, and if I move the AP frequency 
around it's clear that interference is not the problem.  And no, it's 
not a configuration issue.


I'm sending a field tech to climb the customer's TV tower tomorrow and 
change out the SM, but I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen this 
before.


Is this a known failure mode - not deaf, but seemingly can't lock onto 
or decode beacons?

Re: [AFMUG] FSK SM sees AP on SA but not on AP Eval

[George Skorup]

Oh. I misread it to mean it just won't register. I'm stupid. And tired.

Probably just a bad SM, but are you sure it's not local interference at 
the SM? Maybe like a 40MHz or 80MHz wifi channel?


On 9/1/2015 8:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

So AP Eval needs xmt to work, it's not just a passive rcv thing?


-Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, 
September 01, 2015 8:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK 
SM sees AP on SA but not on AP Eval
Probably dead Tx. I've seen it a few times. Most of the time it's the 
Tx/Rx switch, which means both directions lose 20-30dB. But I've 
definitely seen only Tx or only Rx die before. The 85+ degrees the 
past few days probably contributed to its demise. Pouring sweat 
working at a tower today. That sucked.


On 9/1/2015 6:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
This SM just stopped working after several months.  I would say it 
went "deaf", but Spectrum Analyzer still works.  It sees the AP at 
the right frequency and signal level, and if I move the AP frequency 
around it's clear that interference is not the problem.  And no, it's 
not a configuration issue.


I'm sending a field tech to climb the customer's TV tower tomorrow 
and change out the SM, but I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen 
this before.


Is this a known failure mode - not deaf, but seemingly can't lock 
onto or decode beacons?

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support

[Faisal Imtiaz]

yep, not only attentive, but very easy to get to... I have had many chats with 
them at odd times via their online chat app .. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "TJ Trout" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:50:51 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support

> I wanted to take a second to mention how amazing mimosas support has been,
> extremely attentive and even advance replaces bad devices with little 
> headache.

> I hope when they get big they can keep this Boutique support and not turn out
> like some of the others that have forgotten their roots.

> TJ

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing materials for already wired houses

[David]

We have contracts with the Owner or company that owns the rental 
properties so that we can ensure a always on connection there.



On 09/01/2015 02:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
My biggest problem with that is the person that moves out of the house 
takes the POE with them.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:54 PM, David > wrote:


We have some rental homes like this in a community and yes they
are always on and connected but when a new client
joins it redirects them to our site with a signup and terms/cond
check box to agree to and they are up and running after
they slide their card in the slot :)





On 09/01/2015 01:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Does anyone have anything that says your service is already
available to the house and that they simply need to call up
and pay?  Figured I'd ask before looking on the dark web.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

[Mike Hammett]

If you can make it up to San Saba, Windstream and Zayo are there. Otherwise, 
you're in a bit of a drought. A lot of west Texas has been filled in by the 
builds I referenced earlier.

Doesn't help you immediately, but some options for the future.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: "Ty Featherling" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:57:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik



We are Central, West of Austin. This new pop is at the far western end of our 
network in little old Llano, TX. 

-Ty 
On Sep 1, 2015 10:18 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Where are you at in Texas? There have been a lot of builds in Texas the past 
couple of years. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 





From: "Ty Featherling" < tyfeatherl...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:52:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 


Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any 
bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A storm 
came through and caused some major damage and in the process they made some 
major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon as they were 
complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers. We have been the 
first to bite since our options in that town are slim. They had to do all kinds 
of work and order some "card" that they needed in order to turn our link up 
once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP. It has all been delayed 
multiple times and most recently our turn up was delayed a week because Tier 2 
was investigating a performance problem on the circuit that was limiting it to 
about 800mbps. They literally called me the next day after telling me that to 
say it was all better but that is why I am suspicious. 


Thanks all, 
Ty 


On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
wrote: 





ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated..especially when the 
dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided in a hand it 
down manner 



ATT = Many Network = Many Technolgies 

Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and conversions 
were very expensive. 



however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that is 
ancient.." 

For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM networks 
(over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their networks over to 
Ethernet. (hint.. hint Ethernet over fiber has less regulations vs any kind 
of TDM) 



The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most likely to 
be due to network path between the the far router he is testing with...or 
something else 



I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with those 
results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see issues with 
actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage tapering) then I would 
go back to the Carrier 



It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, throttled 
to 700meg yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on top of l3) then 
it is possible that there is a congested route. either way it will be a lot 
easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it with actual traffic (if and 
when that happens) than running iperf tests 



Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV. 



Regards 



Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 





From: "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 



I asked because AT has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP 
ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a 
10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $$. Not sure if Vz does/did the same 
thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were 
limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I don't 
know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE network. It's 
no longer a technical limitation, they just force you to buy the more expensive 
hand-off. 


On 8/31/2015 10:42 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: 




Gigabit ethernet. Delivered via fiber to my CCR. 

-Ty 
On Aug 31, 2015 9:41 PM, "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote: 





What type/provider is your circuit? 


On 8/31/2015 8:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: 



I saw 788/440 UDP. I have suspicions this link isn't performing at gigabit so 
thanks for the test. 


-Ty 


On Mon, Aug 31, 

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Travis Johnson]

We are using Shopify with one of our companies that is 99% online. We 
have done over $160,000 in a single month (avg ticket $63) and never had 
a single problem. We are using their top pricing model, so the CC fee is 
2.3% (including the transaction fee). That's the lowest price I could 
find when I looked before. Many other e-commerce sites quote lower 
rates, until you actually factor in their "gateway" and other misc. charges.


The other advantage is you don't have to get an actual credit card 
merchant account, so there are no personal guarantees or any of that 
with Shopify. You simply sign-up, setup the site, and start selling. :)


Travis


On 9/1/2015 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce 
site with credit card payment gateway.  Not for my current products 
but I have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may 
want to sell online.
Lots of options out there.  Been looking at the wordpress method, and 
shopify, and magento etc etc.
They will all do what I want, but since these products may not 
actually sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing materials for already wired houses

[David]

Thats why we either place the POE outside in a little telco enclosure or 
in the attic.
For the most part works fine until the Power company pulls power due to 
unpaid bill LOL



On 09/01/2015 02:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
My biggest problem with that is the person that moves out of the house 
takes the POE with them.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:54 PM, David > wrote:


We have some rental homes like this in a community and yes they
are always on and connected but when a new client
joins it redirects them to our site with a signup and terms/cond
check box to agree to and they are up and running after
they slide their card in the slot :)





On 09/01/2015 01:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Does anyone have anything that says your service is already
available to the house and that they simply need to call up
and pay?  Figured I'd ask before looking on the dark web.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Josh Luthman]

What about automating shipping?  Ideally the purchase is made and the
warehouse gets a printable label.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sep 1, 2015 6:37 PM, "Travis Johnson"  wrote:

> It should work for any company that wants to sell anything online. They
> have hundreds of free templates, as well as hundreds of custom designed
> templates that cost $50 to $500 (one-time).
>
> One thing to note... Shopify is a complete hosting/e-commerce/processing
> system. You pay them monthly for the hosting as well as the e-commerce
> package (from $50 - $179/month if I remember correctly) and it runs on
> their servers. They do provide unlimited technical support (via telephone
> even), so for someone new to the online world, this is a great feature.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 9/1/2015 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Would Shopify work for a car parts vendor?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>> We are using Shopify with one of our companies that is 99% online. We
>> have done over $160,000 in a single month (avg ticket $63) and never had a
>> single problem. We are using their top pricing model, so the CC fee is 2.3%
>> (including the transaction fee). That's the lowest price I could find when
>> I looked before. Many other e-commerce sites quote lower rates, until you
>> actually factor in their "gateway" and other misc. charges.
>>
>> The other advantage is you don't have to get an actual credit card
>> merchant account, so there are no personal guarantees or any of that with
>> Shopify. You simply sign-up, setup the site, and start selling. :)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>> On 9/1/2015 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce
>> site with credit card payment gateway.� Not for my current products but I
>> have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell
>> online.
>> �
>> Lots of options out there.� Been looking at the wordpress method, and
>> shopify, and magento etc etc.
>> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually
>> sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.�
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Josh Luthman]

I have a friend that spends a lot of time manually doing shipping - figured
I'd toss this lead.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> I know there are many options for shipping modules and add-on extensions.
> You will just have to research it and see. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 9/1/2015 4:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> What about automating shipping?  Ideally the purchase is made and the
> warehouse gets a printable label.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Sep 1, 2015 6:37 PM, "Travis Johnson"  wrote:
>
>> It should work for any company that wants to sell anything online. They
>> have hundreds of free templates, as well as hundreds of custom designed
>> templates that cost $50 to $500 (one-time).
>>
>> One thing to note... Shopify is a complete hosting/e-commerce/processing
>> system. You pay them monthly for the hosting as well as the e-commerce
>> package (from $50 - $179/month if I remember correctly) and it runs on
>> their servers. They do provide unlimited technical support (via telephone
>> even), so for someone new to the online world, this is a great feature.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>> On 9/1/2015 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Would Shopify work for a car parts vendor?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Travis Johnson < 
>> t...@ida.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We are using Shopify with one of our companies that is 99% online. We
>>> have done over $160,000 in a single month (avg ticket $63) and never had a
>>> single problem. We are using their top pricing model, so the CC fee is 2.3%
>>> (including the transaction fee). That's the lowest price I could find when
>>> I looked before. Many other e-commerce sites quote lower rates, until you
>>> actually factor in their "gateway" and other misc. charges.
>>>
>>> The other advantage is you don't have to get an actual credit card
>>> merchant account, so there are no personal guarantees or any of that with
>>> Shopify. You simply sign-up, setup the site, and start selling. :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/1/2015 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce
>>> site with credit card payment gateway.� Not for my current products but I
>>> have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell
>>> online.
>>> �
>>> Lots of options out there.� Been looking at the wordpress method, and
>>> shopify, and magento etc etc.
>>> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually
>>> sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.�
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an answer to

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i could buy that - but it was easy at the time

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: memb...@wispa.org 
  Cc: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one has an 
answer to


  1) traffic shaping somewhere
  2) you're using the wrong protocol for heavy file transfer




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:09 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:



So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.
i have a computer on a cable modem.

I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to my 
home.

The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.
My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)

Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.  

Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Travis Johnson]

It should work for any company that wants to sell anything online. They 
have hundreds of free templates, as well as hundreds of custom designed 
templates that cost $50 to $500 (one-time).


One thing to note... Shopify is a complete hosting/e-commerce/processing 
system. You pay them monthly for the hosting as well as the e-commerce 
package (from $50 - $179/month if I remember correctly) and it runs on 
their servers. They do provide unlimited technical support (via 
telephone even), so for someone new to the online world, this is a great 
feature.


Travis


On 9/1/2015 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Would Shopify work for a car parts vendor?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Travis Johnson > wrote:


We are using Shopify with one of our companies that is 99% online.
We have done over $160,000 in a single month (avg ticket $63) and
never had a single problem. We are using their top pricing model,
so the CC fee is 2.3% (including the transaction fee). That's the
lowest price I could find when I looked before. Many other
e-commerce sites quote lower rates, until you actually factor in
their "gateway" and other misc. charges.

The other advantage is you don't have to get an actual credit card
merchant account, so there are no personal guarantees or any of
that with Shopify. You simply sign-up, setup the site, and start
selling. :)

Travis


On 9/1/2015 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an
ecommerce site with credit card payment gateway.� Not for my
current products but I have some other, non internet/wisp related
products that I may want to sell online.
�
Lots of options out there.� Been looking at the wordpress
method, and shopify, and magento etc etc.
They will all do what I want, but since these products may not
actually sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as
possible.�

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no onehas an answer to

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

actually both ends were win7

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Webster 
  To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no 
onehas an answer to


  Depending on the program being used for transfer does it have a setting to 
only use a percentage of the bandwidth available? Is it the new windows 10 and 
does that have that feature enabled? Since Windows 10 now has a torrent file 
sharing feature to help distribute windows updates I would look towards that as 
a possibility.

   

  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 3:22 PM
  To: memb...@wispa.org
  Cc: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ok - so i bet this is a mystery no one 
has an answer to

   

  1) traffic shaping somewhere

  2) you're using the wrong protocol for heavy file transfer




   

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

   

  On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:09 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:

   


  So, i've got a computer at our office on a one gig fiber connection.

  i have a computer on a cable modem.

   

  I'm trying to copy a 75 meg file using remote desktop from the office to my 
home.

   

  The office computer has symmetric up and down - it's one gig fiber.

  My home computer (download) is 60 meg down 4 meg up (charter cable)

   

  Studying office network traffic it's only moving at 1.5 meg.  

   

  Why isn't it going faster?  Is there is a tweakable way?

   

   


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Re: [AFMUG] Securing Management Network?

[Mike Hammett]

Route filters are less intensive than firewall rules.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Gray" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:46:05 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Securing Management Network?


I'm re-thinking my network arrangement and would like to know how others secure 
or separate their management network. 


My current setup is all Mikrotik running OSPF/MPLS/VPLS with VPLS tunnels from 
the APs back to my edge routers, where customer traffic is handled and I use 
firewall rules at those routers to prevent the tunnels from having access into 
the network. I have public IPs available at the edge routers, and all internal 
hardware has some slice of 10.0.0.0/8 . I don't have firewall rules on most of 
the routers as they are all protected by the edge. 


I'd like to move away from this model and have IP blocks at each AP site that 
route over my OSPF/MPLS system. I can get them to route, but I am wondering if 
there is an easy way to block routes or limit OSPF distribution to prevent 
access to my hardware (other than running several firewall rules on every 
router). I am running many RB750, RB750UP, and RB750P routers and would like to 
keep firewall rules to a minimum if possible. 


Thanks - Chris 

[AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support

[TJ Trout]

I wanted to take a second to mention how amazing mimosas support has been,
extremely attentive and even advance replaces bad devices with little
headache.

I hope when they get big they can keep this Boutique support and not turn
out like some of the others that have forgotten their roots.

TJ

Re: [AFMUG] Securing Management Network?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

We just run a basic input rule, its a drop rule with a NOT management
address list, did realize yesterday it needed to have NOT established and
related, NTP was not updating

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Christopher Gray  wrote:

> I'm re-thinking my network arrangement and would like to know how others
> secure or separate their management network.
>
> My current setup is all Mikrotik running OSPF/MPLS/VPLS with VPLS tunnels
> from the APs back to my edge routers, where customer traffic is handled and
> I use firewall rules at those routers to prevent the tunnels from having
> access into the network. I have public IPs available at the edge routers,
> and all internal hardware has some slice of 10.0.0.0/8. I don't have
> firewall rules on most of the routers as they are all protected by the edge.
>
> I'd like to move away from this model and have IP blocks at each AP site
> that route over my OSPF/MPLS system. I can get them to route, but I am
> wondering if there is an easy way to block routes or limit OSPF
> distribution to prevent access to my hardware (other than running several
> firewall rules on every router). I am running many RB750, RB750UP, and
> RB750P routers and would like to keep firewall rules to a minimum if
> possible.
>
> Thanks - Chris
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Josh Luthman]

Would Shopify work for a car parts vendor?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> We are using Shopify with one of our companies that is 99% online. We have
> done over $160,000 in a single month (avg ticket $63) and never had a
> single problem. We are using their top pricing model, so the CC fee is 2.3%
> (including the transaction fee). That's the lowest price I could find when
> I looked before. Many other e-commerce sites quote lower rates, until you
> actually factor in their "gateway" and other misc. charges.
>
> The other advantage is you don't have to get an actual credit card
> merchant account, so there are no personal guarantees or any of that with
> Shopify. You simply sign-up, setup the site, and start selling. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 9/1/2015 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an ecommerce
> site with credit card payment gateway.� Not for my current products but I
> have some other, non internet/wisp related products that I may want to sell
> online.
> �
> Lots of options out there.� Been looking at the wordpress method, and
> shopify, and magento etc etc.
> They will all do what I want, but since these products may not actually
> sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as low as possible.�
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

[Travis Johnson]

I know there are many options for shipping modules and add-on 
extensions. You will just have to research it and see. :)


Travis


On 9/1/2015 4:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


What about automating shipping?  Ideally the purchase is made and the 
warehouse gets a printable label.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 1, 2015 6:37 PM, "Travis Johnson" > wrote:


It should work for any company that wants to sell anything online.
They have hundreds of free templates, as well as hundreds of
custom designed templates that cost $50 to $500 (one-time).

One thing to note... Shopify is a complete
hosting/e-commerce/processing system. You pay them monthly for the
hosting as well as the e-commerce package (from $50 - $179/month
if I remember correctly) and it runs on their servers. They do
provide unlimited technical support (via telephone even), so for
someone new to the online world, this is a great feature.

Travis


On 9/1/2015 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Would Shopify work for a car parts vendor?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Travis Johnson > wrote:

We are using Shopify with one of our companies that is 99%
online. We have done over $160,000 in a single month (avg
ticket $63) and never had a single problem. We are using
their top pricing model, so the CC fee is 2.3% (including the
transaction fee). That's the lowest price I could find when I
looked before. Many other e-commerce sites quote lower rates,
until you actually factor in their "gateway" and other misc.
charges.

The other advantage is you don't have to get an actual credit
card merchant account, so there are no personal guarantees or
any of that with Shopify. You simply sign-up, setup the site,
and start selling. :)

Travis


On 9/1/2015 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I am wondering about the lowest cost method of setting up an
ecommerce site with credit card payment gateway.� Not for
my current products but I have some other, non internet/wisp
related products that I may want to sell online.
�
Lots of options out there.� Been looking at the wordpress
method, and shopify, and magento etc etc.
They will all do what I want, but since these products may
not actually sell, I want to get the monthly expense down as
low as possible.�

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support

[Ken Hohhof]

H, online chat app.  Have you tried a Turing test?

Maybe a bot:
http://www.pandorabots.com/

(Just kidding.)

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support

yep, not only attentive, but very easy to get to... I have had many chats with 
them at odd times via their online chat app ..


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




  From: "TJ Trout" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:50:51 PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosa fabulous support

  I wanted to take a second to mention how amazing mimosas support has been, 
extremely attentive and even advance replaces bad devices with little headache.

  I hope when they get big they can keep this Boutique support and not turn out 
like some of the others that have forgotten their roots. 


  TJ

Re: [AFMUG] updated SyncInjector 3.65 firmware ?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Sure is.  I posted it a week or so ago..   See
http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=4

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Forrest had given us a “early, early Beta” firmware for 320’s that would
> help with resetting after a “trip”.  We have purchased more 320 Injectors
> and would like to install the latest version.
>
>
>
> Anyone know if there is an update?
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
>
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 office
>
> 772-473-0352 cell
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

[Faisal Imtiaz]

The first part is easy to explain:- 
Verizon (learned this from New Jersey storm) is actively decommissioning Copper 
plants in favor of Fiber. When an area is damaged due to weather, they are able 
to accelerate their case for total decommission and replace with Fiber (hint 
hint.. fiber is not regulated like copper and they don't have to allow sharing 
with other LEC's), and then they open the flood gates... 

The cards they are talking about are normally optics it is interesting to 
hear about the 800meg limit... 
if you really need the full pipe, then I suggest a more extensive test.. Use 
the packet generator on the CCR to generate the traffic... instead of bandwidth 
test... 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Ty Featherling" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:52:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

> Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any
> bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A storm
> came through and caused some major damage and in the process they made some
> major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon as they were
> complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers. We have been the
> first to bite since our options in that town are slim. They had to do all 
> kinds
> of work and order some "card" that they needed in order to turn our link up
> once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP. It has all been delayed
> multiple times and most recently our turn up was delayed a week because Tier 2
> was investigating a performance problem on the circuit that was limiting it to
> about 800mbps. They literally called me the next day after telling me that to
> say it was all better but that is why I am suspicious.
> Thanks all,
> Ty

> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
> wrote:

>> ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated..especially when 
>> the
>> dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided in a hand it
>> down manner

>> ATT = Many Network = Many Technolgies
>> Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and 
>> conversions
>> were very expensive.

>> however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that is
>> ancient.."
>> For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM 
>> networks
>> (over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their networks over to
>> Ethernet. (hint.. hint Ethernet over fiber has less regulations vs any 
>> kind
>> of TDM)

>> The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most likely 
>> to
>> be due to network path between the the far router he is testing with...or
>> something else

>> I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with those
>> results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see issues with
>> actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage tapering) then I would
>> go back to the Carrier

>> It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, 
>> throttled
>> to 700meg yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on top of l3) 
>> then
>> it is possible that there is a congested route. either way it will be a 
>> lot
>> easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it with actual traffic (if 
>> and
>> when that happens) than running iperf tests

>> Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV.

>> Regards

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

>>> I asked because AT has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP
>>> ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a
>>> 10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $$. Not sure if Vz does/did the same
>>> thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were
>>> limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I 
>>> don't
>>> know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE network. 
>>> It's
>>> no longer a technical limitation, they just force you to buy the more 
>>> expensive
>>> hand-off.

>>> On 8/31/2015 10:42 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

 Gigabit ethernet. Delivered via fiber to my CCR.

 -Ty
 On Aug 31, 2015 9:41 PM, "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote:

> What type/provider is your circuit?

> On 8/31/2015 8:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

>> I saw 788/440 UDP. I have 

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

[Mike Hammett]

Don't do speed tests to non-x86 and expect it to be accurate. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "Sterling Jacobson"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:20:52 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 



You might try a good gigabit laptop connected to the circuit and a good 
speedtest.net server. 

When I do UDP to that same CCR I gave you from my desktop I only get around 
630Mbps. 
TCP is worse, around 300Mbps both ways for some reason. 

When I go THROUGH the router to speedtest.net I get about 950Mbps both ways. 
Which is about as high as it gets with overhead I think. 

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4627888451 

So I don’t know if it’s just using the CCR as an endpoint, or some inefficiency 
with btest.exe or what that causes inaccurate results on testing using the 
Mikrotik stuff. 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 7:52 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 


Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any 
bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A storm 
came through and caused some major damage and in the process they made some 
major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon as they were 
complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers. We have been the 
first to bite since our options in that town are slim. They had to do all kinds 
of work and order some "card" that they needed in order to turn our link up 
once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP. It has all been delayed 
multiple times and most recently our turn up was delayed a week because Tier 2 
was investigating a performance problem on the circuit that was limiting it to 
about 800mbps. They literally called me the next day after telling me that to 
say it was all better but that is why I am suspicious. 



Thanks all, 

Ty 



On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
wrote: 





ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated..especially when the 
dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided in a hand it 
down manner 



ATT = Many Network = Many Technolgies 

Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and conversions 
were very expensive. 



however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that is 
ancient.." 

For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM networks 
(over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their networks over to 
Ethernet. (hint.. hint Ethernet over fiber has less regulations vs any kind 
of TDM) 



The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most likely to 
be due to network path between the the far router he is testing with...or 
something else 



I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with those 
results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see issues with 
actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage tapering) then I would 
go back to the Carrier 



It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, throttled 
to 700meg yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on top of l3) then 
it is possible that there is a congested route. either way it will be a lot 
easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it with actual traffic (if and 
when that happens) than running iperf tests 



Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV. 



Regards 



Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 







From: "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 





I asked because AT has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP 
ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a 
10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $$. Not sure if Vz does/did the same 
thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were 
limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I don't 
know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE network. It's 
no longer a technical limitation, they just force you to buy the more expensive 
hand-off. 

On 8/31/2015 10:42 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: 


Gigabit ethernet. Delivered via fiber to my CCR. 
-Ty 

On Aug 31, 2015 9:41 PM, "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote: 





What type/provider is your circuit? 

On 8/31/2015 8:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: 



I saw 788/440 UDP. I have suspicions this link isn't 

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

[Mike Hammett]

A traffic generator test starts and finishes on the same box. At some point, 
btest will be deprecated, so you'll have to learn how to use traffic generator. 
it also gives much more useful information. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "Sterling Jacobson"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:03:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 



Never used the traffic generator. Is there an exe for the host machine to 
send/receive to as well? 
Or does it just go between mikrotiks? 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:39 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 



The first part is easy to explain:- 

Verizon (learned this from New Jersey storm) is actively decommissioning Copper 
plants in favor of Fiber. When an area is damaged due to weather, they are able 
to accelerate their case for total decommission and replace with Fiber (hint 
hint.. fiber is not regulated like copper and they don't have to allow sharing 
with other LEC's), and then they open the flood gates... 



The cards they are talking about are normally optics it is interesting to 
hear about the 800meg limit... 

if you really need the full pipe, then I suggest a more extensive test.. Use 
the packet generator on the CCR to generate the traffic... instead of bandwidth 
test... 



Regards. 



Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 


- Original Message -




From: "Ty Featherling" < tyfeatherl...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:52:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 






Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any 
bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A storm 
came through and caused some major damage and in the process they made some 
major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon as they were 
complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers. We have been the 
first to bite since our options in that town are slim. They had to do all kinds 
of work and order some "card" that they needed in order to turn our link up 
once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP. It has all been delayed 
multiple times and most recently our turn up was delayed a week because Tier 2 
was investigating a performance problem on the circuit that was limiting it to 
about 800mbps. They literally called me the next day after telling me that to 
say it was all better but that is why I am suspicious. 

Thanks all, 

Ty 



On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
wrote: 







ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated..especially when the 
dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided in a hand it 
down manner 


ATT = Many Network = Many Technolgies 

Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and conversions 
were very expensive. 


however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that is 
ancient.." 

For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM networks 
(over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their networks over to 
Ethernet. (hint.. hint Ethernet over fiber has less regulations vs any kind 
of TDM) 


The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most likely to 
be due to network path between the the far router he is testing with...or 
something else 


I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with those 
results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see issues with 
actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage tapering) then I would 
go back to the Carrier 


It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, throttled 
to 700meg yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on top of l3) then 
it is possible that there is a congested route. either way it will be a lot 
easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it with actual traffic (if and 
when that happens) than running iperf tests 


Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV. 


Regards 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 






From: "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 





I asked because AT has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP 
ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. 

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

[Mike Hammett]

Where are you at in Texas? There have been a lot of builds in Texas the past 
couple of years. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Ty Featherling"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:52:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 


Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any 
bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A storm 
came through and caused some major damage and in the process they made some 
major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon as they were 
complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers. We have been the 
first to bite since our options in that town are slim. They had to do all kinds 
of work and order some "card" that they needed in order to turn our link up 
once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP. It has all been delayed 
multiple times and most recently our turn up was delayed a week because Tier 2 
was investigating a performance problem on the circuit that was limiting it to 
about 800mbps. They literally called me the next day after telling me that to 
say it was all better but that is why I am suspicious. 


Thanks all, 
Ty 


On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
wrote: 





ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated..especially when the 
dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided in a hand it 
down manner 



ATT = Many Network = Many Technolgies 

Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and conversions 
were very expensive. 



however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that is 
ancient.." 

For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM networks 
(over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their networks over to 
Ethernet. (hint.. hint Ethernet over fiber has less regulations vs any kind 
of TDM) 



The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most likely to 
be due to network path between the the far router he is testing with...or 
something else 



I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with those 
results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see issues with 
actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage tapering) then I would 
go back to the Carrier 



It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, throttled 
to 700meg yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on top of l3) then 
it is possible that there is a congested route. either way it will be a lot 
easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it with actual traffic (if and 
when that happens) than running iperf tests 



Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV. 



Regards 



Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 





From: "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 





I asked because AT has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP 
ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a 
10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $$. Not sure if Vz does/did the same 
thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were 
limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I don't 
know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE network. It's 
no longer a technical limitation, they just force you to buy the more expensive 
hand-off. 


On 8/31/2015 10:42 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: 



Gigabit ethernet. Delivered via fiber to my CCR. 
-Ty 
On Aug 31, 2015 9:41 PM, "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote: 





What type/provider is your circuit? 


On 8/31/2015 8:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: 



I saw 788/440 UDP. I have suspicions this link isn't performing at gigabit so 
thanks for the test. 


-Ty 


On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net > 
wrote: 





Yeah, try me at 108.165.31.1, let me know if you can get in and what you see. 

It’s a CCR on a 10Gbps connection. 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 1:10 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik 


Anyone have a Mikrotik on a 10 gig connection that I can test to from a newly 
turned up gigabit Verizon circuit? 



-Ty 

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

[Sterling Jacobson]

Never used the traffic generator. Is there an exe for the host machine to 
send/receive to as well?
Or does it just go between mikrotiks?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

The first part is easy to explain:-
  Verizon (learned this from New Jersey storm) is actively decommissioning 
Copper plants in favor of Fiber. When an area is damaged due to weather, they 
are able to accelerate their case for total decommission and replace with Fiber 
(hint hint.. fiber is not regulated like copper and they don't have to allow 
sharing with other LEC's), and then they open the flood gates...

The cards they are talking about are normally optics it is interesting to 
hear about the 800meg limit...
if you really need the full pipe, then I suggest a more extensive test.. Use 
the packet generator on the CCR to generate the traffic... instead of bandwidth 
test...

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Ty Featherling" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:52:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik
Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any 
bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A storm 
came through and caused some major damage and in the process they made some 
major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon as they were 
complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers. We have been the 
first to bite since our options in that town are slim. They had to do all kinds 
of work and order some "card" that they needed in order to turn our link up 
once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP. It has all been delayed 
multiple times and most recently our turn up was delayed a week because Tier 2 
was investigating a performance problem on the circuit that was limiting it to 
about 800mbps. They literally called me the next day after telling me that to 
say it was all better but that is why I am suspicious.
Thanks all,
Ty

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:

ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated..especially when the 
dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided in a hand it 
down manner

ATT = Many Network  = Many Technolgies
Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and conversions 
were very expensive.

however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that is 
ancient.."
For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM networks 
(over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their networks over to 
Ethernet. (hint.. hint Ethernet over fiber has less regulations vs any kind 
of TDM)

The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most likely to 
be due to network path between the the far router he is testing with...or 
something else

I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with those 
results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see issues with 
actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage tapering) then I would 
go back to the Carrier

It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, throttled 
to 700meg yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on top of l3) then 
it is possible that there is a congested route. either way it will be a lot 
easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it with actual traffic (if and 
when that happens) than running iperf tests

Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV.

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "George Skorup" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik
I asked because AT has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP 
ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a 
10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $$. Not sure if Vz does/did the same 
thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were 
limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I don't 
know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE 

Re: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor order on SiteMonitor Manager

[Bill Prince]

The last time it was rebooted was ~~ 6 month ago (178 days uptime). I 
have no clue how it got that way; I don't use the Manager very often 
anyway. 99.99% of our interaction with SiteMonitors is via SNMP. 
Probably some memory glitch.


bp


On 9/1/2015 12:22 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:


This is a new one for me as well.

Reboot?   Upgrade firmware?  Factory reset?

It looks like either the base unit is confused about which labels 
belong where,  or more likely, somehow they got changed.   Everything 
else looks fine.


On Aug 31, 2015 8:49 PM, "George Skorup" > wrote:


Dude, the relay and the switch are supposed to be on the
binary/boolean tab. WTF. The values look right. I bet you can just
rename the description fields to make it right. Something screwy
happened, like the descriptions were overwritten. I've done that
before. Refresh on the boolean tab and then switched to the analog
tab without refreshing, but clicking in the description field and
hitting enter will do it. But all of them seems odd. I'm thinking
you didn't do that, something else happened. Not hard to fix though.

On 8/31/2015 8:31 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

I don't use the SiteMonitor Manager much anymore, I think we only
have a couple of SiteMonitor 1s anymore that are still in service.

However, I logged into one of those units today, and the analog
I/O was backward and/or mislabeled for the built-in sensors. This
is what I got on the SiteMonitor Manager:



But this is the same thing on a SiteMonitor II:




This is using SiteMonitor Manager 1.3.0 build 10.

Did I miss another memo?

-- 


bp

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

[Ty Featherling]

Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any
bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A
storm came through and caused some major damage and in the process they
made some major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon
as they were complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers.
We have been the first to bite since our options in that town are slim.
They had to do all kinds of work and order some "card" that they needed in
order to turn our link up once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP.
It has all been delayed multiple times and most recently our turn up was
delayed a week because Tier 2 was investigating a performance problem on
the circuit that was limiting it to about 800mbps. They literally called me
the next day after telling me that to say it was all better but that is why
I am suspicious.

Thanks all,
Ty

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated..especially
> when the dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided
> in a hand it down manner
>
> ATT = Many Network  = Many Technolgies
> Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and
> conversions were very expensive.
>
> however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that
> is ancient.."
> For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM
> networks (over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their
> networks over to Ethernet. (hint.. hint Ethernet over fiber has less
> regulations vs any kind of TDM)
>
> The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most
> likely to be due to network path between the the far router he is testing
> with...or something else
>
> I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with
> those results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see
> issues with actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage
> tapering) then I would go back to the Carrier
>
> It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport,
> throttled to 700meg yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on
> top of l3) then it is possible that there is a congested route. either
> way it will be a lot easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it
> with actual traffic (if and when that happens) than running iperf tests
>
> Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV.
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"George Skorup" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik
>
> I asked because AT has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP
> ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a
> 10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $$. Not sure if Vz does/did the same
> thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were
> limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I
> don't know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE
> network. It's no longer a technical limitation, they just force you to buy
> the more expensive hand-off.
>
> On 8/31/2015 10:42 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:
>
> Gigabit ethernet. Delivered via fiber to my CCR.
>
> -Ty
> On Aug 31, 2015 9:41 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
>> What type/provider is your circuit?
>>
>> On 8/31/2015 8:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:
>>
>> I saw 788/440 UDP. I have suspicions this link isn't performing at
>> gigabit so thanks for the test.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, try me at 108.165.31.1, let me know if you can get in and what you
>>> see.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s a CCR on a 10Gbps connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ty Featherling
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2015 1:10 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone have a Mikrotik on a 10 gig connection that I can test to from a
>>> newly turned up gigabit Verizon circuit?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

[Faisal Imtiaz]

ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated..especially when the 
dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided in a hand it 
down manner 

ATT = Many Network = Many Technolgies 
Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and conversions 
were very expensive. 

however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that is 
ancient.." 
For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM networks 
(over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their networks over to 
Ethernet. (hint.. hint Ethernet over fiber has less regulations vs any kind 
of TDM) 

The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most likely to 
be due to network path between the the far router he is testing with...or 
something else 

I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with those 
results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see issues with 
actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage tapering) then I would 
go back to the Carrier 

It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, throttled 
to 700meg yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on top of l3) then 
it is possible that there is a congested route. either way it will be a lot 
easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it with actual traffic (if and 
when that happens) than running iperf tests 

Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV. 

Regards 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "George Skorup" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

> I asked because AT has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP
> ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a
> 10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $$. Not sure if Vz does/did the same
> thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were
> limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I 
> don't
> know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE network. It's
> no longer a technical limitation, they just force you to buy the more 
> expensive
> hand-off.

> On 8/31/2015 10:42 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

>> Gigabit ethernet. Delivered via fiber to my CCR.

>> -Ty
>> On Aug 31, 2015 9:41 PM, "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote:

>>> What type/provider is your circuit?

>>> On 8/31/2015 8:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

 I saw 788/440 UDP. I have suspicions this link isn't performing at gigabit 
 so
 thanks for the test.

 -Ty

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net >
 wrote:

> Yeah, try me at 108.165.31.1, let me know if you can get in and what you 
> see.

> It’s a CCR on a 10Gbps connection.

> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

> Anyone have a Mikrotik on a 10 gig connection that I can test to from a 
> newly
> turned up gigabit Verizon circuit?

> -Ty

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

[Sterling Jacobson]

You might try a good gigabit laptop connected to the circuit and a good 
speedtest.net server.

When I do UDP to that same CCR I gave you from my desktop I only get around 
630Mbps.
TCP is worse, around 300Mbps both ways for some reason.

When I go THROUGH the router to speedtest.net I get about 950Mbps both ways.
Which is about as high as it gets with overhead I think.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4627888451

So I don’t know if it’s just using the CCR as an endpoint, or some inefficiency 
with btest.exe or what that causes inaccurate results on testing using the 
Mikrotik stuff.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 7:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any 
bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A storm 
came through and caused some major damage and in the process they made some 
major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon as they were 
complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers. We have been the 
first to bite since our options in that town are slim. They had to do all kinds 
of work and order some "card" that they needed in order to turn our link up 
once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP. It has all been delayed 
multiple times and most recently our turn up was delayed a week because Tier 2 
was investigating a performance problem on the circuit that was limiting it to 
about 800mbps. They literally called me the next day after telling me that to 
say it was all better but that is why I am suspicious.

Thanks all,
Ty

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated..especially when the 
dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided in a hand it 
down manner

ATT = Many Network  = Many Technolgies
Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and conversions 
were very expensive.

however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that is 
ancient.."
For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM networks 
(over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their networks over to 
Ethernet. (hint.. hint Ethernet over fiber has less regulations vs any kind 
of TDM)

The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most likely to 
be due to network path between the the far router he is testing with...or 
something else

I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with those 
results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see issues with 
actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage tapering) then I would 
go back to the Carrier

It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, throttled 
to 700meg yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on top of l3) then 
it is possible that there is a congested route. either way it will be a lot 
easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it with actual traffic (if and 
when that happens) than running iperf tests

Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV.

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "George Skorup" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik
I asked because AT has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP 
ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a 
10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $$. Not sure if Vz does/did the same 
thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were 
limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I don't 
know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE network. It's 
no longer a technical limitation, they just force you to buy the more expensive 
hand-off.
On 8/31/2015 10:42 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

Gigabit ethernet. Delivered via fiber to my CCR.

-Ty
On Aug 31, 2015 9:41 PM, "George Skorup" 
> wrote:
What type/provider is your circuit?
On 8/31/2015 8:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:
I saw 788/440 UDP. I have suspicions this link isn't performing at gigabit so 
thanks for the test.

-Ty

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
Yeah, try me at 108.165.31.1, let me know if you can get in and what you see.

It’s a CCR on a 10Gbps 

[AFMUG] updated SyncInjector 3.65 firmware ?

[Paul McCall]

Forrest had given us a "early, early Beta" firmware for 320's that would help 
with resetting after a "trip".  We have purchased more 320 Injectors and would 
like to install the latest version.

Anyone know if there is an update?

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

[AFMUG] IPv6

[Mike Hammett]

If you're a manufacturer and you don't have 1:1 feature parity in IPv4 and 
IPv6, punch yourself in the face... hard. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

[AFMUG] Environmental specs

[Dan Petermann]

When listing the temp ratings of equipment, is it the ambient air temp or 
equipment temp that is listed?

I could see a situation where the air temp is -40 but due to the heat of the 
electronics the internal temp is, say -25.