Re: [AFMUG] Arizona had an earthquake today

[Mathew Howard]

That appears to be a major disaster, do you need any assistance? I can help
you to... drink beer.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Rory Conaway  wrote:

> That’s exactly the kind of help we need in this crisis.  I’ll straighten
> up the chair so we can make maximum results of your assistance.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ty Featherling
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 3, 2015 7:17 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Arizona had an earthquake today
>
>
>
> Jamie for President! Si se puede!
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> I can send relief beer to help out in this crisis
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Nov 3, 2015 4:55 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
> No worries though.  We are working on the repairs now.
>
>
>
> [image:
> https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12191720_10207847274929378_2937235182374566709_n.jpg?oh=73253e33a0a205c5806ca477301cdc62=56FA80CD]
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life
> are good friends and a good bullpen.”
>
>  ~Baseball saying by: Bob Lemon
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Arizona had an earthquake today

[Jaime Solorza]

Ha

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 3, 2015 7:16 AM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:

> Jamie for President! Si se puede!
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I can send relief beer to help out in this crisis
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Nov 3, 2015 4:55 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>>> No worries though.  We are working on the repairs now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image:
>>> https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12191720_10207847274929378_2937235182374566709_n.jpg?oh=73253e33a0a205c5806ca477301cdc62=56FA80CD]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life
>>> are good friends and a good bullpen.”
>>>
>>>  ~Baseball saying by: Bob Lemon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Arizona had an earthquake today

[Bill Prince]

Looks serious.. Better make it TWO six packs.

bp


On 11/3/2015 6:12 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


I can send relief beer to help out in this crisis

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 3, 2015 4:55 AM, "Rory Conaway" > wrote:


No worries though.  We are working on the repairs now.


https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12191720_10207847274929378_2937235182374566709_n.jpg?oh=73253e33a0a205c5806ca477301cdc62=56FA80CD

*Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542 *

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

**

“I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in
life are good friends and a good bullpen.”

 ~Baseball saying by: Bob Lemon

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 60 degree sector antenna 5Ghz

[Ken Hohhof]

The spec sheet doesn’t even include numbers for the 3rd port, but I seem to 
remember it was low gain and 60 degree elevation beamwidth to match a bare 
PMP100 AP?  Is that useful to you?

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 60 degree sector antenna 5Ghz

Yes, that's what it's there for.


On 11/2/2015 3:17 PM, Ryan Mano wrote:

  Does the port on the antenna for the fsk work on this sector?

  �

  Can I hook up pmp100 5Ghz ap to it?

  �

  thanks

  �

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Testing APC units - probably a dumb question

[Jeremy]

Yes, they require batteries to even power on.  Also, many of the larger
APCs are 48v instead of 24v.  Make sure to check the data sheet.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Wonder what would happen if you put a big cap in place of the batt.
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson 
> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 1:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Testing APC units - probably a dumb question
>
>
> Yes, they probably do need the batteries to even respond.
>
>
>
> At least the few that I’ve used over the years, they don’t do anything,
> even if plugged in, if the batts are dead or removed.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Monday, November 2, 2015 12:47 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Testing APC units - probably a dumb question
>
>
>
> We have a bunch of surplus larger (2K plus)  110v APCs that we acquired
> without batteries, part of a larger lot of “stuff”.
>
>
>
> Do they have to have batteries in them to even power on?   First few we
> tried don’t power up, and before I chase my tail or jump to conclusions, I
> figured I would ask.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
>
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 office
>
> 772-473-0352 cell
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Jason McKemie]

Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  wrote:

> >>>You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers
>
> Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
> something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
> like that?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
> > wrote:
> > I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
> that
> > form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
> mount
> > panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt  > wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
> >> our PTP fibers?
> >>
> >> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
> >> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
> >> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
> >>
> >> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
> >>
> >> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
> >> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
> >> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
> >> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211
> >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own network

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Oh ye of little faith, Stelle has its share of disputes, but thats what
hapens when you start defining whos wife belongs to whom. And dirigibles.
Last I knew they had their own Interweb access, but that was some time ago
as part of their telco coop.

Its an odd town to drive through, like a subdivision full of stepford wives.

But they do have a yearly sustainable living fair that I guess is pretty
popular.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> We won’t even relay off one neighbor to another anymore, due to experience
> with people moving or getting into fights with the neighbor, etc.  We’ll
> only do it between relatives and even then you can get issues.  I’m trying
> to imagine doing it on the scale of this network.  People there must either
> be very laid back and neighborly (it is almost Canada), or they really have
> no other choices for Internet.
>
> There’s a town Stelle in Illinois that started as a commune, they have a
> cooperative telephone company, probably Internet too.  But that’s a
> commune.  You don’t move to Stelle to have fights with your neighbors.
>
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:21 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town
> creatingtheir own network
>
>
> This works great until the volunteers start leaving.  We had to take one
> network over where that happened.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:59 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating
> their own network
>
>
>
> Their location is on the SE facing edge of Orcas, too close to Mt.
> Constitution and blocked by trees for ptmp links. Much better ptp link view
> from there to Anacortes and towers on hilltops in Skagit county. If you
> were to stand on top of their water tank I bet $5 you will not see the Mt.
> Constitution tower sites due to the shape of the terrain, despite 90+ meter
> towers on the summit.
>
> Looks like they are doing very short distance ptmp in their 5x5 km square
> area of orcas, as the photos of shielded ubnt sectors on trees illustrate.
>
> On Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM, "Rick Harnish" 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting, I guess Stuart Baker and Richard Boucher’s Orcas Online
>  doesn’t reach the entire island inhabitants.
> They have been WISPA members for a number of years and attend WISPAPALOOZA
> regularly.  I talked to Stuart this year actually.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> *Rick Harnish*
>
> Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
>
> 260-307-4000 cell
>
> Skype: rick.harnish.​
>
> Twitter: @rharnish
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 12:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their
> own network
>
>
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own network

[Rory Conaway]

This works great until the volunteers start leaving.  We had to take one 
network over where that happened.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network


Their location is on the SE facing edge of Orcas, too close to Mt. Constitution 
and blocked by trees for ptmp links. Much better ptp link view from there to 
Anacortes and towers on hilltops in Skagit county. If you were to stand on top 
of their water tank I bet $5 you will not see the Mt. Constitution tower sites 
due to the shape of the terrain, despite 90+ meter towers on the summit.

Looks like they are doing very short distance ptmp in their 5x5 km square area 
of orcas, as the photos of shielded ubnt sectors on trees illustrate.
On Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM, "Rick Harnish" 
> wrote:
Interesting, I guess Stuart Baker and Richard Boucher’s Orcas 
Online doesn’t reach the entire island inhabitants.  
They have been WISPA members for a number of years and attend WISPAPALOOZA 
regularly.  I talked to Stuart this year actually.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
260-307-4000 cell
Skype: rick.harnish.​
Twitter: @rharnish


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/

Re: [AFMUG] gbit syncinjector with epmp

[George Skorup]

If you power-cycled the base unit and the SyncInjector, then those 1PPS 
events are recent. If you also moved the SyncPipe (i.e. unplugged it), 
then that would also increment the event counter.


You can click the little pencil icon next to the 1PPS active event 
counter and set it to zero so that next time it happens, you'll see if 
any new events have occurred. That's what I do anyway.


Has anyone else seen this with the SyncInjectors (APs losing sync, but 
the SyncInjector stats all look normal)?


On 11/3/2015 10:38 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
it shows 5, I dont know if that resets on a power cycle. I have an 
uptime of 6 days. I switched one to using internal GPS sync and it 
hasnt lost sync since, the other is still doing it a few times per hour.


I dont think its actually hurting anything since the sync hold-off is 
at the default 30 seconds and it comes back up


Probably some cambium hate code for not using a cambium syncsource

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:33 AM, George Skorup > wrote:


Steve, what does your Binary I/O tab look like? Specifically the
1PPS Active event counter? Across multiple sites now, I see all of
the 450 APs lose sync from the SyncInjector at the same time. I go
look at the stats and there's no indication of a loss of sync. The
1PPS counter is still at 1 (or 0 if I clear it). I believe what's
happening in my case is the on-board GPS starts freaking out
and/or some AutoSync bug.

On 11/2/2015 10:33 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

We moved the syncpipe over to full sky 11 sats visisble and still
seeing sync loss on both APs attached to it, switched to the epmp
GPS in the mean time.



On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Adam Moffett
> wrote:

It's funny, we were just discussing this at Telrad's LTE
training.
Since the sats are moving around they said losing GPS once in
awhile might indicate a partial LOS issue, especially if it's
at the same time every day.


On 10/27/2015 7:55 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

That's the instantaneous readout.

You should monitor it on an ongoing basis. Below is a site
where we see periodic 1 PPS pulse drops. Notice the dip in
the tracked sats shortly after 15:00. If it had gone down to
3, it would have (very briefly) stopped the 1 PPS. When it
does that, we sometimes get session restarts on all the subs.


bp


On 10/27/2015 3:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

1   Sats Visible #1 1   1   #18(76,019)(37) 
#21(58,179)(39)
#24(49,097)(45) #22(46,300)(24) 
2   Sats Visible #2 1   2   #51(39,207)(28) 
#14(38,235)(15)
#15(28,055)(24) #20(22,099)(41) 
3   Sats Visible #3 1   3   #27(22,299)(28) 
#13(10,046)(37)
#08(05,328)(21) #29(01,185)(33) 
4   Sats Visible #4 1   4   
5   Sats Visible #5 1   5   
6   Sats Used   1   6


On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Bill Prince
> wrote:

Take a look at how many sats you're getting on the sync
pipe. If there is a partial sky (or "something"), and
you drop below 4 sats, it will drop the sync pulse.

bp


On 10/27/2015 2:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

we put a couple of these up yesterday since then they
keep dropping sync for a few seconds a few times an
hour, they new APs 2.5.1 fw, configured to sync from
cmm4, am i doing something wrong here?

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you don't see your team as part of yourself you
have already failed as part of the team.





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If you only see yourself as part of the team but

you don't see your team as part of yourself you
have already failed as part of the team.







-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see

your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
the team.





--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own network

[Ken Hohhof]

We won’t even relay off one neighbor to another anymore, due to experience with 
people moving or getting into fights with the neighbor, etc.  We’ll only do it 
between relatives and even then you can get issues.  I’m trying to imagine 
doing it on the scale of this network.  People there must either be very laid 
back and neighborly (it is almost Canada), or they really have no other choices 
for Internet.

There’s a town Stelle in Illinois that started as a commune, they have a 
cooperative telephone company, probably Internet too.  But that’s a commune.  
You don’t move to Stelle to have fights with your neighbors.


From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own 
network

This works great until the volunteers start leaving.  We had to take one 
network over where that happened.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network

 

Their location is on the SE facing edge of Orcas, too close to Mt. Constitution 
and blocked by trees for ptmp links. Much better ptp link view from there to 
Anacortes and towers on hilltops in Skagit county. If you were to stand on top 
of their water tank I bet $5 you will not see the Mt. Constitution tower sites 
due to the shape of the terrain, despite 90+ meter towers on the summit. 

Looks like they are doing very short distance ptmp in their 5x5 km square area 
of orcas, as the photos of shielded ubnt sectors on trees illustrate.

On Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM, "Rick Harnish"  wrote:

Interesting, I guess Stuart Baker and Richard Boucher’s Orcas Online doesn’t 
reach the entire island inhabitants.  They have been WISPA members for a number 
of years and attend WISPAPALOOZA regularly.  I talked to Stuart this year 
actually.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst

260-307-4000 cell

Skype: rick.harnish.​

Twitter: @rharnish

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own network

[James Howard]

Now that is planning ahead!  Better than digging a hole in the ground for a 
shelter.  Wait…. What if somebody shoots them down?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own 
network

One of the founders had a belief in a doomsday event that would take place in 
his lifetime, supposedly he had built an airship of sorts that would lift him 
and his people into the stratosphere when the event took place with enough 
provisions to sustain until such a time they could return and survive in the 
sustainable community.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 12:21 PM, James Howard 
> wrote:
They have dirigibles?!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own 
network

Oh ye of little faith, Stelle has its share of disputes, but thats what hapens 
when you start defining whos wife belongs to whom. And dirigibles.
Last I knew they had their own Interweb access, but that was some time ago as 
part of their telco coop.

Its an odd town to drive through, like a subdivision full of stepford wives.

But they do have a yearly sustainable living fair that I guess is pretty 
popular.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof 
> wrote:
We won’t even relay off one neighbor to another anymore, due to experience with 
people moving or getting into fights with the neighbor, etc.  We’ll only do it 
between relatives and even then you can get issues.  I’m trying to imagine 
doing it on the scale of this network.  People there must either be very laid 
back and neighborly (it is almost Canada), or they really have no other choices 
for Internet.

There’s a town Stelle in Illinois that started as a commune, they have a 
cooperative telephone company, probably Internet too.  But that’s a commune.  
You don’t move to Stelle to have fights with your neighbors.


From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own 
network

This works great until the volunteers start leaving.  We had to take one 
network over where that happened.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network


Their location is on the SE facing edge of Orcas, too close to Mt. Constitution 
and blocked by trees for ptmp links. Much better ptp link view from there to 
Anacortes and towers on hilltops in Skagit county. If you were to stand on top 
of their water tank I bet $5 you will not see the Mt. Constitution tower sites 
due to the shape of the terrain, despite 90+ meter towers on the summit.

Looks like they are doing very short distance ptmp in their 5x5 km square area 
of orcas, as the photos of shielded ubnt sectors on trees illustrate.
On Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM, "Rick Harnish" 
> wrote:
Interesting, I guess Stuart Baker and Richard Boucher’s Orcas 
Online doesn’t reach the entire island inhabitants.  
They have been WISPA members for a number of years and attend WISPAPALOOZA 
regularly.  I talked to Stuart this year actually.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
260-307-4000 cell
Skype: rick.harnish.​
Twitter: @rharnish


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/



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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone running Ubiquiti AC equipment where customers are complaining about certain ports being blocked?

[James Craig]

Hi Rory,

Can you send me the Support Info file from each CPE? (ja...@ubnt.com)

Make sure you are on 7.1.4 (a few Port Forward related fixes in 7.1.4), and
that the WAN interface is br0 (not wlan0) for the PF.  I'd also make sure
the security system is using the correct default gateway (if static).





On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> Got one customer that can’t get her security system to work, and another
> that couldn’t download Google Chrome, went across the street to another
> ISP, came right in.  Here is the error:.
>
>
>
> PLATFORM VERSION INFO
>  Windows: 6.2.9200.0 (Win32NT)
>  Common Language Runtime  : 4.0.30319.34014
>  System.Deployment.dll   : 4.0.30319.34243 built by: FX452RTMGDR
>  clr.dll: 4.0.30319.34014 built by: FX45W81RTMGDR
>  dfdll.dll: 4.0.30319.34243 built by: FX452RTMGDR
>  dfshim.dll: 6.3.9600.16384 (winblue_rtm.130821-1623)
>
> SOURCES
>  Deployment url   :
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Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own network

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

One of the founders had a belief in a doomsday event that would take place
in his lifetime, supposedly he had built an airship of sorts that would
lift him and his people into the stratosphere when the event took place
with enough provisions to sustain until such a time they could return and
survive in the sustainable community.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 12:21 PM, James Howard  wrote:

> They have dirigibles?!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:17 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town
> creatingtheir own network
>
>
>
> Oh ye of little faith, Stelle has its share of disputes, but thats what
> hapens when you start defining whos wife belongs to whom. And dirigibles.
>
> Last I knew they had their own Interweb access, but that was some time ago
> as part of their telco coop.
>
>
>
> Its an odd town to drive through, like a subdivision full of stepford
> wives.
>
>
>
> But they do have a yearly sustainable living fair that I guess is pretty
> popular.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> We won’t even relay off one neighbor to another anymore, due to experience
> with people moving or getting into fights with the neighbor, etc.  We’ll
> only do it between relatives and even then you can get issues.  I’m trying
> to imagine doing it on the scale of this network.  People there must either
> be very laid back and neighborly (it is almost Canada), or they really have
> no other choices for Internet.
>
>
>
> There’s a town Stelle in Illinois that started as a commune, they have a
> cooperative telephone company, probably Internet too.  But that’s a
> commune.  You don’t move to Stelle to have fights with your neighbors.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:21 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town
> creatingtheir own network
>
>
>
> This works great until the volunteers start leaving.  We had to take one
> network over where that happened.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:59 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating
> their own network
>
>
>
> Their location is on the SE facing edge of Orcas, too close to Mt.
> Constitution and blocked by trees for ptmp links. Much better ptp link view
> from there to Anacortes and towers on hilltops in Skagit county. If you
> were to stand on top of their water tank I bet $5 you will not see the Mt.
> Constitution tower sites due to the shape of the terrain, despite 90+ meter
> towers on the summit.
>
> Looks like they are doing very short distance ptmp in their 5x5 km square
> area of orcas, as the photos of shielded ubnt sectors on trees illustrate.
>
> On Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM, "Rick Harnish" 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting, I guess Stuart Baker and Richard Boucher’s Orcas Online
>  doesn’t reach the entire island inhabitants.
> They have been WISPA members for a number of years and attend WISPAPALOOZA
> regularly.  I talked to Stuart this year actually.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> *Rick Harnish*
>
> Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
>
> 260-307-4000 cell
>
> Skype: rick.harnish.​
>
> Twitter: @rharnish
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 12:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their
> own network
>
>
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small towncreatingtheir own network

[Ken Hohhof]

I want one.  And a stepford wife.

From: James Howard 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small towncreatingtheir own 
network

They have dirigibles?!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own 
network

 

Oh ye of little faith, Stelle has its share of disputes, but thats what hapens 
when you start defining whos wife belongs to whom. And dirigibles.

Last I knew they had their own Interweb access, but that was some time ago as 
part of their telco coop.

 

Its an odd town to drive through, like a subdivision full of stepford wives.

 

But they do have a yearly sustainable living fair that I guess is pretty 
popular.

 

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

We won’t even relay off one neighbor to another anymore, due to experience with 
people moving or getting into fights with the neighbor, etc.  We’ll only do it 
between relatives and even then you can get issues.  I’m trying to imagine 
doing it on the scale of this network.  People there must either be very laid 
back and neighborly (it is almost Canada), or they really have no other choices 
for Internet.

 

There’s a town Stelle in Illinois that started as a commune, they have a 
cooperative telephone company, probably Internet too.  But that’s a commune.  
You don’t move to Stelle to have fights with your neighbors.

 

 

From: Rory Conaway 

Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:21 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own 
network

 

This works great until the volunteers start leaving.  We had to take one 
network over where that happened.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network

 

Their location is on the SE facing edge of Orcas, too close to Mt. Constitution 
and blocked by trees for ptmp links. Much better ptp link view from there to 
Anacortes and towers on hilltops in Skagit county. If you were to stand on top 
of their water tank I bet $5 you will not see the Mt. Constitution tower sites 
due to the shape of the terrain, despite 90+ meter towers on the summit. 

Looks like they are doing very short distance ptmp in their 5x5 km square area 
of orcas, as the photos of shielded ubnt sectors on trees illustrate.

On Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM, "Rick Harnish"  wrote:

Interesting, I guess Stuart Baker and Richard Boucher’s Orcas Online doesn’t 
reach the entire island inhabitants.  They have been WISPA members for a number 
of years and attend WISPAPALOOZA regularly.  I talked to Stuart this year 
actually.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst

260-307-4000 cell

Skype: rick.harnish.​

Twitter: @rharnish

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/





 

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Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own network

[Eric Kuhnke]

Their location is on the SE facing edge of Orcas, too close to Mt.
Constitution and blocked by trees for ptmp links. Much better ptp link view
from there to Anacortes and towers on hilltops in Skagit county. If you
were to stand on top of their water tank I bet $5 you will not see the Mt.
Constitution tower sites due to the shape of the terrain, despite 90+ meter
towers on the summit.

Looks like they are doing very short distance ptmp in their 5x5 km square
area of orcas, as the photos of shielded ubnt sectors on trees illustrate.
On Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM, "Rick Harnish"  wrote:

> Interesting, I guess Stuart Baker and Richard Boucher’s Orcas Online
>  doesn’t reach the entire island inhabitants.
> They have been WISPA members for a number of years and attend WISPAPALOOZA
> regularly.  I talked to Stuart this year actually.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> *Rick Harnish*
>
> Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
>
> 260-307-4000 cell
>
> Skype: rick.harnish.​
>
> Twitter: @rharnish
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 12:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their
> own network
>
>
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/
>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own network

[James Howard]

They have dirigibles?!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own 
network

Oh ye of little faith, Stelle has its share of disputes, but thats what hapens 
when you start defining whos wife belongs to whom. And dirigibles.
Last I knew they had their own Interweb access, but that was some time ago as 
part of their telco coop.

Its an odd town to drive through, like a subdivision full of stepford wives.

But they do have a yearly sustainable living fair that I guess is pretty 
popular.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof 
> wrote:
We won’t even relay off one neighbor to another anymore, due to experience with 
people moving or getting into fights with the neighbor, etc.  We’ll only do it 
between relatives and even then you can get issues.  I’m trying to imagine 
doing it on the scale of this network.  People there must either be very laid 
back and neighborly (it is almost Canada), or they really have no other choices 
for Internet.

There’s a town Stelle in Illinois that started as a commune, they have a 
cooperative telephone company, probably Internet too.  But that’s a commune.  
You don’t move to Stelle to have fights with your neighbors.


From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creatingtheir own 
network

This works great until the volunteers start leaving.  We had to take one 
network over where that happened.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network


Their location is on the SE facing edge of Orcas, too close to Mt. Constitution 
and blocked by trees for ptmp links. Much better ptp link view from there to 
Anacortes and towers on hilltops in Skagit county. If you were to stand on top 
of their water tank I bet $5 you will not see the Mt. Constitution tower sites 
due to the shape of the terrain, despite 90+ meter towers on the summit.

Looks like they are doing very short distance ptmp in their 5x5 km square area 
of orcas, as the photos of shielded ubnt sectors on trees illustrate.
On Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM, "Rick Harnish" 
> wrote:
Interesting, I guess Stuart Baker and Richard Boucher’s Orcas 
Online doesn’t reach the entire island inhabitants.  
They have been WISPA members for a number of years and attend WISPAPALOOZA 
regularly.  I talked to Stuart this year actually.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
260-307-4000 cell
Skype: rick.harnish.​
Twitter: @rharnish


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Interesting article about a small town creating their own 
network

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/



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[AFMUG] OT: Bitcoin finally getting some upswing!

[Gino Villarini]

passed $400!

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[Mathew Howard]

Isn't a lot of the smaller stuff copper clad aluminium? how would one go
about calculating that?

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Depends on the size of the heliax.  The larger stuff has a tube as center
> conductor.  In any event just calculate the cross sectional area of the
> copper of the center conductor and you can compare that with a wire gauge
> chart.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
>
> For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center conductor
> diameter to a wire gauge chart?
>
>
> On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that also has RF
> on it too.  Just a choke coil and capacitor at both ends.  If you want
> details give me the frequency and what kind of power and I will design it
> for you.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza 
> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
>
>
> Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux radios we
> modified long time ago.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you don’t put
>> the hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...
>>
>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
>>
>> Thanks all, great solution Josh!
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown < 
>> ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can run DC *or* AC over it.
>>>
>>> Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts AC (at RF
>>> frequencies) on the coax and everything is just fine.
>>>
>>> All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to power the amps.
>>>
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
>>>
>>> Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in place up a tower
>>> to run power to a POE switch?
>>>
>>> This is the stuff:
>>> https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: BttF

[John Babineaux]

http://www.wired.com/2015/06/lexus-hoverboard-slide/

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 6:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: BttF

 

Now someone just needs to come out with a hoverboard...and I need a trust fund.

 

http://news.nike.com/news/nike-mag-2015

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[Chuck McCown]

Conductivity is so close to the same that the difference would not be 
significant for short runs.  Over 500 feet you may see a difference worth 
noting.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 3:23 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Isn't a lot of the smaller stuff copper clad aluminium? how would one go about 
calculating that?


On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Depends on the size of the heliax.  The larger stuff has a tube as center 
conductor.  In any event just calculate the cross sectional area of the copper 
of the center conductor and you can compare that with a wire gauge chart.  

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:08 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

  For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center conductor 
diameter to a wire gauge chart? 



  On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that also has RF 
on it too.  Just a choke coil and capacitor at both ends.  If you want details 
give me the frequency and what kind of power and I will design it for you.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux radios we 
modified long time ago. 

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you don’t put 
the hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...

  From: Ty Featherling 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

  Thanks all, great solution Josh! 

  -Ty



  -Ty

  On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

You can run DC or AC over it.  

Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts AC (at RF 
frequencies) on the coax and everything is just fine.  

All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to power the amps.  

From: Ty Featherling 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in place up a 
tower to run power to a POE switch? 

This is the stuff:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162 

-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks

[Faisal Imtiaz]

I believe this is a more of a 'how to" rather than a "what can" type question. 

Goolge is your friend ... do a google search 

FYI. 
https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/collaborative-bookmarking-with-lists.html
 
Here is how you can do this via google chome  

Just one of many  

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Scott Vander Dussen" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 4:17:30 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks

> Anyone know of an extension that synchronizes select folders bookmarks with
> colleagues (not necessarily the browser’s entire set of bookmarks)? Or an
> extension that is able to keep its own set of synchronized bookmarks separate
> from the browser’s built-in bookmark set?

> Trying to find a way to basically have a “Work” folder of bookmarks shared 
> with
> colleagues without messing up their personal bookmarks and have a single place
> to push updates to those bookmarks * without * using one of the many web-based
> solutions out there.

> `S

Re: [AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks

[Josh Luthman]

I do it with Powercode, there's only a couple things we all share.

I also do an easy URL on our web server with big fat links.  That one URL
gets bookmarked on our phones and then it's got the links to our different
things (rain, network maps, Powercode, tower list, etc)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> I believe this is a more of a 'how to" rather than a "what can" type
> question.
>
> Goolge is your friend ... do a google search
>
>
> FYI.
> https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/collaborative-bookmarking-with-lists.html
> Here is how you can do this via google chome 
>
> Just one of many 
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Scott Vander Dussen" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 3, 2015 4:17:30 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks
>
> Anyone know of an extension that synchronizes select folders bookmarks
> with colleagues (not necessarily the browser’s entire set of bookmarks)?
> Or an extension that is able to keep its own set of synchronized bookmarks
> separate from the browser’s built-in bookmark set?
>
>
>
> Trying to find a way to basically have a “Work” folder of bookmarks shared
> with colleagues without messing up their personal bookmarks and have a
> single place to push updates to those bookmarks **without** using one of
> the many web-based solutions out there.
>
>
>
> `S
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks

[D. Ryan Spott]

Dropbox? Drag and drop the webloc file into a shared folder?

ryan

On 11/3/15 1:36 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
you could probably do some creative registry hacks like we did with 
google earth to share a default map. But that stuff breaks so easy


On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:


Anyone know of an extension that synchronizes select folders
bookmarks with colleagues (not necessarily the browser’s entire
set of bookmarks)?  Or an extension that is able to keep its own
set of synchronized bookmarks separate from the browser’s built-in
bookmark set?

Trying to find a way to basically have a “Work” folder of
bookmarks shared with colleagues without messing up their personal
bookmarks and have a single place to push updates to those
bookmarks **without** using one of the many web-based solutions
out there.

`S




--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



--
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

Re: [AFMUG] OT: BttF

[Josh Luthman]

Which is lame...Honda has done that for their machines for at least a
decade...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:30 PM, John Babineaux  wrote:

> http://www.wired.com/2015/06/lexus-hoverboard-slide/
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2015 6:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: BttF
>
>
>
> Now someone just needs to come out with a hoverboard...and I need a trust
> fund.
>
>
>
> http://news.nike.com/news/nike-mag-2015
>

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Matt]

Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?

http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/


On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason McKemie
 wrote:
> Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  wrote:
>>
>> >>>You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers
>>
>> Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
>> something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
>> like that?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
>>  wrote:
>> > I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
>> > that
>> > form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
>> > mount
>> > panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
>> >> our PTP fibers?
>> >>
>> >> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
>> >> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
>> >> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
>> >>
>> >> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
>> >>
>> >> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
>> >> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
>> >> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
>> >> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211
>> >
>> >

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[Chuck McCown]

Depends on the size of the heliax.  The larger stuff has a tube as center 
conductor.  In any event just calculate the cross sectional area of the copper 
of the center conductor and you can compare that with a wire gauge chart.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center conductor diameter 
to a wire gauge chart? 



On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that also has RF on 
it too.  Just a choke coil and capacitor at both ends.  If you want details 
give me the frequency and what kind of power and I will design it for you.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

  Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux radios we 
modified long time ago. 

  Jaime Solorza

  On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you don’t put the 
hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...

From: Ty Featherling 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Thanks all, great solution Josh! 

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  You can run DC or AC over it.  

  Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts AC (at RF 
frequencies) on the coax and everything is just fine.  

  All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to power the amps.  

  From: Ty Featherling 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

  Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in place up a tower 
to run power to a POE switch? 

  This is the stuff:
  https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162 

  -Ty

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[Adam Moffett]

For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center conductor 
diameter to a wire gauge chart?



On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that also has 
RF on it too.  Just a choke coil and capacitor at both ends.  If you 
want details give me the frequency and what kind of power and I will 
design it for you.

*From:* Jaime Solorza 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
*To:* Animal Farm 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux 
radios we modified long time ago.


Jaime Solorza

On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown" > wrote:


Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you don’t
put the hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...
*From:* Ty Featherling 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
Thanks all, great solution Josh!
-Ty
-Ty
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:

You can run DC /or/ AC over it.
Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts AC
(at RF frequencies) on the coax and everything is just fine.
All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to power
the amps.
*From:* Ty Featherling 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in place
up a tower to run power to a POE switch?
This is the stuff:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162
-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[Josh Luthman]

When I looked at the center pin I remember seeing like 0.001 voltage drop
at 24v and 200'.  This was Nextel stuff, looks the same for all cell
companies though.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 3, 2015 3:23 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

> If it’s solid copper and not copper clad steel or something.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 2:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
>
> For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center conductor
> diameter to a wire gauge chart?
>
>
> On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that also has RF
> on it too.  Just a choke coil and capacitor at both ends.  If you want
> details give me the frequency and what kind of power and I will design it
> for you.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza 
> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
>
>
> Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux radios we
> modified long time ago.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you don’t put
>> the hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...
>>
>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
>>
>> Thanks all, great solution Josh!
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> You can run DC *or* AC over it.
>>>
>>> Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts AC (at RF
>>> frequencies) on the coax and everything is just fine.
>>>
>>> All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to power the amps.
>>>
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling 
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
>>>
>>> Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in place up a tower
>>> to run power to a POE switch?
>>>
>>> This is the stuff:
>>> https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] current(est) 3ghz rulings

[Adam Moffett]

If I recall correctly and if my understanding isn't completely flawed 
then it's like this:


If you registered your transmitter before the cutoff date last April 
then you'll have a protected zone where you can continue to operate 
under the old rules until 2020.


For the moment, you can continue registering sites and operate legally 
as you have been doing, but those sites registered after last April's 
cutoff won't get the aforementioned protectioni.e. they will have to 
abide by the new rules whenever the new rules take effect.


The spectrum access database doesn't exist yet as far as I know.  I 
hadn't heard any timeline more specific than "in a year or two", and I 
don't think they can implement the rest of the changes until that 
exists.  Does anyone know who exactly is making that system and what 
their progress has been like?


I also don't know the details of when PAL's are being sold or 
specifically how you get them.




On 11/3/2015 11:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Where do we stand on the new 100mhz and the existing 50?

Im working with a third party IT firm that handles IT for the owners 
of three towers we colocate. They have a 3.65 license and are looking 
at this for a backhaul solution. One of the three towers is in a big 
player are who is rolling out 3ghz 450.


Its a slick idea for customer locking to have their interconnection 
tied to a license you own, break contract and your data link goes down 
because you cant operate it.


This is a very friendly communication, the guy has actually tried to 
hire me and we are colocated at other sites that they handle the IT 
for. My biggest concern is that the IT folks will deploy something now 
that could have a cease order in the near future.


Is my understanding correct in that the current 50 will not be a part 
of the three tiers? Thats doable to some degree (fucks us for PMP, but 
landlords are landlords, we could pulll a lease fight, which we would 
win, but it would be followed with the implementation of the 2 year 
eviction notice, not really a win)




Out of curiosity, from the perspective of the FCC, how does this work 
out when a license holder is using 3ghz to do ptp for a private network?


--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[David]

If you run DC be sure and use HIPPI Grease for all wire caps or screw 
terminals where termination is.



On 11/03/2015 02:38 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


When I looked at the center pin I remember seeing like 0.001 voltage 
drop at 24v and 200'.  This was Nextel stuff, looks the same for all 
cell companies though.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 3, 2015 3:23 PM, "Ken Hohhof" > wrote:


If it’s solid copper and not copper clad steel or something.
*From:* Adam Moffett 
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 2:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center
conductor diameter to a wire gauge chart?


On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that
also has RF on it too. Just a choke coil and capacitor at both
ends. If you want details give me the frequency and what kind of
power and I will design it for you.
*From:* Jaime Solorza 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
*To:* Animal Farm 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux
radios we modified long time ago.

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown" > wrote:

Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you
don’t put the hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...
*From:* Ty Featherling 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
Thanks all, great solution Josh!
-Ty
-Ty
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:

You can run DC /or/ AC over it.
Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts
AC (at RF frequencies) on the coax and everything is just
fine.
All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to
power the amps.
*From:* Ty Featherling 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in
place up a tower to run power to a POE switch?
This is the stuff:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162

-Ty

[AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Anyone know of an extension that synchronizes select folders bookmarks with 
colleagues (not necessarily the browser’s entire set of bookmarks)?  Or an 
extension that is able to keep its own set of synchronized bookmarks separate 
from the browser’s built-in bookmark set?

Trying to find a way to basically have a “Work” folder of bookmarks shared with 
colleagues without messing up their personal bookmarks and have a single place 
to push updates to those bookmarks *without* using one of the many web-based 
solutions out there.

`S

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[Ken Hohhof]

If it’s solid copper and not copper clad steel or something.

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 2:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center conductor diameter 
to a wire gauge chart? 



On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that also has RF on 
it too.  Just a choke coil and capacitor at both ends.  If you want details 
give me the frequency and what kind of power and I will design it for you.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

  Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux radios we 
modified long time ago. 

  Jaime Solorza

  On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you don’t put the 
hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...

From: Ty Featherling 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Thanks all, great solution Josh! 

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  You can run DC or AC over it.  

  Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts AC (at RF 
frequencies) on the coax and everything is just fine.  

  All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to power the amps.  

  From: Ty Featherling 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

  Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in place up a tower 
to run power to a POE switch? 

  This is the stuff:
  https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162 

  -Ty

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[Adam Moffett]

Makes sense.

On 11/3/2015 3:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Depends on the size of the heliax.  The larger stuff has a tube as 
center conductor.  In any event just calculate the cross sectional 
area of the copper of the center conductor and you can compare that 
with a wire gauge chart.

*From:* Adam Moffett 
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center conductor 
diameter to a wire gauge chart?



On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that also 
has RF on it too.  Just a choke coil and capacitor at both ends.  If 
you want details give me the frequency and what kind of power and I 
will design it for you.

*From:* Jaime Solorza 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
*To:* Animal Farm 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux 
radios we modified long time ago.


Jaime Solorza

On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown" > wrote:


Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you
don’t put the hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...
*From:* Ty Featherling 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
Thanks all, great solution Josh!
-Ty
-Ty
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

You can run DC /or/ AC over it.
Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts AC
(at RF frequencies) on the coax and everything is just fine.
All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to power
the amps.
*From:* Ty Featherling 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in place
up a tower to run power to a POE switch?
This is the stuff:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162
-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Faisal Imtiaz]

I think you are making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for your 
self.

You have a few options:-

For low port density, you can get a 1u keystone panel and add single fiber 
SC-SC keystone jacks to make your install nice and neat.
Plug your incoming cables to the back side of the keystone plug, and use a 
standard SC-LC patch cable on the front.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Matt" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

> Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?
> 
> http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason McKemie
>  wrote:
>> Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers
>>>
>>> Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
>>> something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
>>> like that?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
>>>  wrote:
>>> > I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
>>> > that
>>> > form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
>>> > mount
>>> > panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
>>> >> our PTP fibers?
>>> >>
>>> >> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
>>> >> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
>>> >> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
>>> >>
>>> >> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
>>> >>
>>> >> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
>>> >> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
>>> >> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
>>> >> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211
>>> >

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Jason McKemie]

No next day air, but here is one:

http://www.fs.com/1u-19inch-patch-panel-with-24-ports-sm-mm-dx-sc-adapters-p-35529.html

SM/MM/UPC/APC shouldn't matter with the adapters/couplers. I honestly
haven't used MM, so I can't say for sure, however.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  wrote:

> Yes, thats what I want.  Trying to find something I can next day air.
>
> Found this but its multimode and I need single or will it matter?
> http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-N490-016-SCSC-Fiber-Patch/dp/B000LSZ2G8/
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  > wrote:
> > I think you are making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for
> your self.
> >
> > You have a few options:-
> >
> > For low port density, you can get a 1u keystone panel and add single
> fiber SC-SC keystone jacks to make your install nice and neat.
> > Plug your incoming cables to the back side of the keystone plug, and use
> a standard SC-LC patch cable on the front.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > 7266 SW 48 Street
> > Miami, FL 33155
> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> >
> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Matt" >
> >> To: af@afmug.com 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
> >
> >> Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?
> >>
> >>
> http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason McKemie
> >> > wrote:
> >>> Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  > wrote:
> 
>  >>>You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC
> couplers
> 
>  Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
>  something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
>  like that?
> 
> 
>  On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
>  > wrote:
>  > I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough
> room in
>  > that
>  > form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a
> rack
>  > mount
>  > panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
>  >
>  > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt  >
>  > wrote:
>  >>
>  >> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
>  >> our PTP fibers?
>  >>
>  >> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that
> mounts
>  >> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
>  >> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
>  >>
>  >> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
>  >>
>  >> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack
> mount
>  >> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and
> thats
>  >> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
>  >> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211
>  >
>

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[George Skorup]

They're just SC-SC couplers. Should work fine.

On 11/3/2015 5:33 PM, Matt wrote:

Yes, thats what I want.  Trying to find something I can next day air.

Found this but its multimode and I need single or will it matter?
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-N490-016-SCSC-Fiber-Patch/dp/B000LSZ2G8/




On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:

I think you are making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for your 
self.

You have a few options:-

For low port density, you can get a 1u keystone panel and add single fiber 
SC-SC keystone jacks to make your install nice and neat.
Plug your incoming cables to the back side of the keystone plug, and use a 
standard SC-LC patch cable on the front.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -

From: "Matt" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?

http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/


On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason McKemie
 wrote:

Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  wrote:

You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers

Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
like that?


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
 wrote:

I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
that
form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
mount
panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt 
wrote:

Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
our PTP fibers?

Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.

Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.

Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.



http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211

Re: [AFMUG] OT: BttF

[Josh Luthman]

Or you can plug in for power!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Well, they can technically go on water, just make sure you're moving fast
> enough to go all the way over it :-)
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> ...except water.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, it doesn't count unless it can be used on any random surface.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, John Babineaux <
>>> john.babine...@reach4com.com> wrote:
>>>
 http://www.wired.com/2015/06/lexus-hoverboard-slide/



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2015 6:11 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: BttF



 Now someone just needs to come out with a hoverboard...and I need a
 trust fund.



 http://news.nike.com/news/nike-mag-2015

>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Matt]

Yes, thats what I want.  Trying to find something I can next day air.

Found this but its multimode and I need single or will it matter?
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-N490-016-SCSC-Fiber-Patch/dp/B000LSZ2G8/




On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:
> I think you are making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for your 
> self.
>
> You have a few options:-
>
> For low port density, you can get a 1u keystone panel and add single fiber 
> SC-SC keystone jacks to make your install nice and neat.
> Plug your incoming cables to the back side of the keystone plug, and use a 
> standard SC-LC patch cable on the front.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Matt" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
>
>> Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?
>>
>> http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason McKemie
>>  wrote:
>>> Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  wrote:

 >>>You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers

 Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
 something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
 like that?


 On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
  wrote:
 > I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
 > that
 > form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
 > mount
 > panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
 >
 > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt 
 > wrote:
 >>
 >> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
 >> our PTP fibers?
 >>
 >> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
 >> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
 >> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
 >>
 >> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
 >>
 >> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
 >> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
 >> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
 >> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211
 >

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Faisal Imtiaz]

the couplers are passive, other that having the wrong color they will work fine.

if you are out of time, then choices are going to be pretty limited  

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Matt" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 6:33:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

> Yes, thats what I want.  Trying to find something I can next day air.
> 
> Found this but its multimode and I need single or will it matter?
> http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-N490-016-SCSC-Fiber-Patch/dp/B000LSZ2G8/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  
> wrote:
>> I think you are making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for your
>> self.
>>
>> You have a few options:-
>>
>> For low port density, you can get a 1u keystone panel and add single fiber 
>> SC-SC
>> keystone jacks to make your install nice and neat.
>> Plug your incoming cables to the back side of the keystone plug, and use a
>> standard SC-LC patch cable on the front.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Matt" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
>>
>>> Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?
>>>
>>> http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason McKemie
>>>  wrote:
 Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.

 On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  wrote:
>
> >>>You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers
>
> Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
> something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
> like that?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
>  wrote:
> > I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
> > that
> > form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
> > mount
> > panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
> >> our PTP fibers?
> >>
> >> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
> >> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
> >> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
> >>
> >> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
> >>
> >> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
> >> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
> >> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
> >> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211

Re: [AFMUG] OT: BttF

[Jason McKemie]

Well, they can technically go on water, just make sure you're moving fast
enough to go all the way over it :-)

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> ...except water.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Yeah, it doesn't count unless it can be used on any random surface.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, John Babineaux <
>> john.babine...@reach4com.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.wired.com/2015/06/lexus-hoverboard-slide/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: BttF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now someone just needs to come out with a hoverboard...and I need a
>>> trust fund.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://news.nike.com/news/nike-mag-2015
>>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] Has FCC "gone off the rails" with latest Wi-Fi blocking fines? | ITworld

[Jaime Solorza]

http://www.itworld.com/article/3000979/mobile/has-fcc-gone-off-the-rails-with-latest-wi-fi-blocking-fines.html?google_editors_picks=true

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT: BttF

[Jason McKemie]

Yeah, it doesn't count unless it can be used on any random surface.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, John Babineaux 
wrote:

> http://www.wired.com/2015/06/lexus-hoverboard-slide/
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
> McKemie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2015 6:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: BttF
>
>
>
> Now someone just needs to come out with a hoverboard...and I need a trust
> fund.
>
>
>
> http://news.nike.com/news/nike-mag-2015
>

Re: [AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks

[Josh Luthman]

I tried the other ideas and found this was the simplest way.  I'll forward
you the HTML offlist.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the input- I wanted a solution that doesn’t require
> manual updating on the user end, and what Josh has recommended here seems
> perfect, thx.
>
>
>
> `S
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 14:36
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks
>
>
>
> I do it with Powercode, there's only a couple things we all share.
>
>
>
> I also do an easy URL on our web server with big fat links.  That one URL
> gets bookmarked on our phones and then it's got the links to our different
> things (rain, network maps, Powercode, tower list, etc)
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
> I believe this is a more of a 'how to" rather than a "what can" type
> question.
>
>
>
> Goolge is your friend ... do a google search
>
>
>
>
>
> FYI.
> https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/collaborative-bookmarking-with-lists.html
>
> Here is how you can do this via google chome 
>
>
> Just one of many 
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Scott Vander Dussen" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 3, 2015 4:17:30 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks
>
> Anyone know of an extension that synchronizes select folders bookmarks
> with colleagues (not necessarily the browser’s entire set of bookmarks)?
> Or an extension that is able to keep its own set of synchronized bookmarks
> separate from the browser’s built-in bookmark set?
>
>
>
> Trying to find a way to basically have a “Work” folder of bookmarks shared
> with colleagues without messing up their personal bookmarks and have a
> single place to push updates to those bookmarks **without** using one of
> the many web-based solutions out there.
>
>
>
> `S
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Faisal Imtiaz]

some more choices...
For higher density..

1u panel 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ICC-ICFORPP1RM-Patch-Panel-Blank-Fiber-3-Panel-1-Rack-Mount-Space-/291606224419?hash=item43e515de23:g:NRUAAOSw~bFWN9T6

and sc-sc modules panel
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ICC-6-Port-Duplex-Fiber-Optic-Patch-Panel-12-x-SC-12-Port-s-12-x-RJ-11-/301237780142?hash=item46232bbeae:g:qFoAAOSwPcVVkfSf


so you get the idea.

Try to buy standard stuff, including cables etc...

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Matt" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

> Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?
> 
> http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason McKemie
>  wrote:
>> Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers
>>>
>>> Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
>>> something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
>>> like that?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
>>>  wrote:
>>> > I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
>>> > that
>>> > form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
>>> > mount
>>> > panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
>>> >> our PTP fibers?
>>> >>
>>> >> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
>>> >> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
>>> >> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
>>> >>
>>> >> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
>>> >>
>>> >> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
>>> >> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
>>> >> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
>>> >> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211
>>> >

Re: [AFMUG] current(est) 3ghz rulings

[Mathew Howard]

I'm not sure they've worked out all those details yet. I suspect that once
you modify an equipment it will be treated the same as a new site, but I'm
just guessing.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> What about modifying equipment on an existing registered site?
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> If I recall correctly and if my understanding isn't completely flawed
>> then it's like this:
>>
>> If you registered your transmitter before the cutoff date last April then
>> you'll have a protected zone where you can continue to operate under the
>> old rules until 2020.
>>
>> For the moment, you can continue registering sites and operate legally as
>> you have been doing, but those sites registered after last April's cutoff
>> won't get the aforementioned protectioni.e. they will have to abide by
>> the new rules whenever the new rules take effect.
>>
>> The spectrum access database doesn't exist yet as far as I know.  I
>> hadn't heard any timeline more specific than "in a year or two", and I
>> don't think they can implement the rest of the changes until that exists.
>> Does anyone know who exactly is making that system and what their progress
>> has been like?
>>
>> I also don't know the details of when PAL's are being sold or
>> specifically how you get them.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/3/2015 11:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> Where do we stand on the new 100mhz and the existing 50?
>>
>> Im working with a third party IT firm that handles IT for the owners of
>> three towers we colocate. They have a 3.65 license and are looking at this
>> for a backhaul solution. One of the three towers is in a big player are who
>> is rolling out 3ghz 450.
>>
>> Its a slick idea for customer locking to have their interconnection tied
>> to a license you own, break contract and your data link goes down because
>> you cant operate it.
>>
>> This is a very friendly communication, the guy has actually tried to hire
>> me and we are colocated at other sites that they handle the IT for. My
>> biggest concern is that the IT folks will deploy something now that could
>> have a cease order in the near future.
>>
>> Is my understanding correct in that the current 50 will not be a part of
>> the three tiers? Thats doable to some degree (fucks us for PMP, but
>> landlords are landlords, we could pulll a lease fight, which we would win,
>> but it would be followed with the implementation of the 2 year eviction
>> notice, not really a win)
>>
>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity, from the perspective of the FCC, how does this work out
>> when a license holder is using 3ghz to do ptp for a private network?
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[Bill Prince]

Doesn't something like 90% of the current flow through the surface of 
copper wire? If that's true, a heliax of X diameter should flow 90% of a 
solid copper wire of the same diameter.



bp


On 11/3/2015 12:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Depends on the size of the heliax.  The larger stuff has a tube as 
center conductor.  In any event just calculate the cross sectional 
area of the copper of the center conductor and you can compare that 
with a wire gauge chart.

*From:* Adam Moffett 
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center conductor 
diameter to a wire gauge chart?



On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that also 
has RF on it too.  Just a choke coil and capacitor at both ends.  If 
you want details give me the frequency and what kind of power and I 
will design it for you.

*From:* Jaime Solorza 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
*To:* Animal Farm 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux 
radios we modified long time ago.


Jaime Solorza

On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown" > wrote:


Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you
don’t put the hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...
*From:* Ty Featherling 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
Thanks all, great solution Josh!
-Ty
-Ty
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

You can run DC /or/ AC over it.
Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts AC
(at RF frequencies) on the coax and everything is just fine.
All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to power
the amps.
*From:* Ty Featherling 
*Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?
Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in place
up a tower to run power to a POE switch?
This is the stuff:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162
-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Adam Moffett]

Agreed.  If I was emperor of the world I would have called the mating 
sleeve a coupler and called the coupler a tap.



On 11/3/2015 10:20 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
That seems counter intuitive to me. I use the term coupler for 
anything that "couples" two things - such as two patch cables.


On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Adam Moffett > wrote:


Back up a second.   The word "coupler" in fiber would describe a
passive device similar to what would be called a tap or a
multiplexer in RF. A coupler takes an input fiber and divides the
power among multiple outputs.  The device that joins two fiber
connectors together is a mating sleeve.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_optic_coupler)

Multi mode mating sleeves have a looser tolerance on the
concentricity of the ring that holds the ferrules.  They will
/probably /work with single mode, but you will get more
attenuation than if you bought the single mode version.

You can absolutely use single mode mating sleeves with multi mode
fiber.  The other way around adds attenuation.


On 11/3/2015 6:42 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

the couplers are passive, other that having the wrong color they will work 
fine.

if you are out of time, then choices are going to be pretty limited

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:supp...@snappytelecom.net


- Original Message -

From: "Matt"

To:af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 6:33:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
Yes, thats what I want.  Trying to find something I can next day air.

Found this but its multimode and I need single or will it matter?
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-N490-016-SCSC-Fiber-Patch/dp/B000LSZ2G8/




On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
  wrote:

I think you are making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for 
your
self.

You have a few options:-

For low port density, you can get a 1u keystone panel and add single fiber 
SC-SC
keystone jacks to make your install nice and neat.
Plug your incoming cables to the back side of the keystone plug, and use a
standard SC-LC patch cable on the front.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:supp...@snappytelecom.net


- Original Message -

From: "Matt"

To:af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?


http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/




On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason McKemie

  wrote:

Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt
  wrote:

You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers

Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
like that?


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie

  wrote:

I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
that
form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
mount
panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt

wrote:

Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
our PTP fibers?

Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.

   

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Eric Kuhnke]

Which is why something like an SC-SC duplex bulkhead mount is still called
an "adapter"...

http://www.fs.com/narrow/sc-to-sc_v909t0/fiber-optic-adapters_1000

People in China do call them couplers. The word adapter is not bad, since
you can mate just about any 2.5mm ferrule with another 2.5mm standard
ferrule with the right adapter, and sometimes need to in order to connect
to legacy networks. For example FC to SC/UPC:
http://www.fs.com/fc-sc-hybrid-singlemode-duplex-copper-fiber-adapter-p-22319.html



On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Back up a second.   The word "coupler" in fiber would describe a passive
> device similar to what would be called a tap or a multiplexer in RF.  A
> coupler takes an input fiber and divides the power among multiple outputs.
> The device that joins two fiber connectors together is a mating sleeve. (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_optic_coupler)
>
> Multi mode mating sleeves have a looser tolerance on the concentricity of
> the ring that holds the ferrules.  They will *probably *work with single
> mode, but you will get more attenuation than if you bought the single mode
> version.
>
> You can absolutely use single mode mating sleeves with multi mode fiber.
> The other way around adds attenuation.
>
>
>
> On 11/3/2015 6:42 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
> the couplers are passive, other that having the wrong color they will work 
> fine.
>
> if you are out of time, then choices are going to be pretty limited
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Matt"  
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 6:33:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
>
> Yes, thats what I want.  Trying to find something I can next day air.
>
> Found this but its multimode and I need single or will it 
> matter?http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-N490-016-SCSC-Fiber-Patch/dp/B000LSZ2G8/
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  
>  wrote:
>
> I think you are making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for your
> self.
>
> You have a few options:-
>
> For low port density, you can get a 1u keystone panel and add single fiber 
> SC-SC
> keystone jacks to make your install nice and neat.
> Plug your incoming cables to the back side of the keystone plug, and use a
> standard SC-LC patch cable on the front.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Matt"  
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
>
> Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?
> http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason 
> McKemie  
> wrote:
>
> Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  
>  wrote:
>
> You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers
>
> Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
> something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
> like that?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason 
> McKemie  
> wrote:
>
> I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
> that
> form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
> mount
> panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt  
> 
> wrote:
>
> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
> our PTP fibers?
>
> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
>
> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
>
> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
>
>
> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

[Ken Hohhof]

At high frequencies, yes.  High frequency RF is like Shallow Hal, skin deep is 
all that matters.

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Doesn't something like 90% of the current flow through the surface of copper 
wire? If that's true, a heliax of X diameter should flow 90% of a solid copper 
wire of the same diameter.



bp


On 11/3/2015 12:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Depends on the size of the heliax.  The larger stuff has a tube as center 
conductor.  In any event just calculate the cross sectional area of the copper 
of the center conductor and you can compare that with a wire gauge chart.  

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:08 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

  For equivalent wire gauge would you just compare the center conductor 
diameter to a wire gauge chart? 



  On 11/2/2015 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

It is pretty easy to insert and remove power from a coax that also has RF 
on it too.  Just a choke coil and capacitor at both ends.  If you want details 
give me the frequency and what kind of power and I will design it for you.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Yep .we used. LMR 400 to power custom made receive amps for WMux radios we 
modified long time ago. 

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 2, 2015 3:51 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Just make sure if you hook it up to 120 VAC main current you don’t put 
the hot wire on the outer conductor of the coax...

  From: Ty Featherling 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

  Thanks all, great solution Josh! 

  -Ty



  -Ty

  On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

You can run DC or AC over it.  

Think of it this way, 1000 watt ham radio puts 223 volts AC (at RF 
frequencies) on the coax and everything is just fine.  

All CATV systems put 60 or 90 volts AC on the line to power the amps.  

From: Ty Featherling 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 2:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] using heliax for DC power up tower?

Any reason I couldn't use 1/4" heliax I already have in place up a 
tower to run power to a POE switch? 

This is the stuff:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=469162 

-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] Has FCC "gone off the rails" with latest Wi-Fi blocking fines? | ITworld

[Carl Peterson]

IMHO, the FCC is doing exactly what they should be doing in these cases.  The 
convention center APs would send spoofed deauth to anything they heard, 
including devices well outside the convention center.  Deliberate malicious 
interference with another's use of shared spectrum.

> On Nov 3, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> http://www.itworld.com/article/3000979/mobile/has-fcc-gone-off-the-rails-with-latest-wi-fi-blocking-fines.html?google_editors_picks=true
> 
> Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Jason McKemie]

That seems counter intuitive to me. I use the term coupler for anything
that "couples" two things - such as two patch cables.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Back up a second.   The word "coupler" in fiber would describe a passive
> device similar to what would be called a tap or a multiplexer in RF.  A
> coupler takes an input fiber and divides the power among multiple outputs.
> The device that joins two fiber connectors together is a mating sleeve. (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_optic_coupler)
>
> Multi mode mating sleeves have a looser tolerance on the concentricity of
> the ring that holds the ferrules.  They will *probably *work with single
> mode, but you will get more attenuation than if you bought the single mode
> version.
>
> You can absolutely use single mode mating sleeves with multi mode fiber.
> The other way around adds attenuation.
>
>
> On 11/3/2015 6:42 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
> the couplers are passive, other that having the wrong color they will work 
> fine.
>
> if you are out of time, then choices are going to be pretty limited
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
> 
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Matt"  
> 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 6:33:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
>
> Yes, thats what I want.  Trying to find something I can next day air.
>
> Found this but its multimode and I need single or will it 
> matter?http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-N490-016-SCSC-Fiber-Patch/dp/B000LSZ2G8/
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  
>  wrote:
>
> I think you are making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for your
> self.
>
> You have a few options:-
>
> For low port density, you can get a 1u keystone panel and add single fiber 
> SC-SC
> keystone jacks to make your install nice and neat.
> Plug your incoming cables to the back side of the keystone plug, and use a
> standard SC-LC patch cable on the front.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
> 
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Matt"  
> 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
>
> Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?
> http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason 
> McKemie 
>  wrote:
>
> Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  
>  wrote:
>
> You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers
>
> Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
> something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
> like that?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason 
> McKemie 
>  wrote:
>
> I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
> that
> form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
> mount
> panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt  
> 
> wrote:
>
> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
> our PTP fibers?
>
> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
>
> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
>
> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
>
>
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Has FCC "gone off the rails" with latest Wi-Fi blocking fines? | ITworld

[Ty Featherling]

+1 that's what they are supposed to do.

-Ty
On Nov 3, 2015 8:32 PM, "Carl Peterson"  wrote:

> IMHO, the FCC is doing exactly what they should be doing in these cases.
> The convention center APs would send spoofed deauth to anything they heard,
> including devices well outside the convention center.  Deliberate malicious
> interference with another's use of shared spectrum.
>
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>
> http://www.itworld.com/article/3000979/mobile/has-fcc-gone-off-the-rails-with-latest-wi-fi-blocking-fines.html?google_editors_picks=true
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
>

[AFMUG] OT: Networking archaeology

[Eric Kuhnke]

http://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/90s/ftp0.jpg

(FTP transfer from the south pole)


1991: https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~aas/SPUC/91/computer91.html

1995: https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~aas/SPUC/95/spole.95final2b.html

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Adam Moffett]

Back up a second.   The word "coupler" in fiber would describe a passive 
device similar to what would be called a tap or a multiplexer in RF.  A 
coupler takes an input fiber and divides the power among multiple 
outputs.  The device that joins two fiber connectors together is a 
mating sleeve. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_optic_coupler)


Multi mode mating sleeves have a looser tolerance on the concentricity 
of the ring that holds the ferrules.  They will /probably /work with 
single mode, but you will get more attenuation than if you bought the 
single mode version.


You can absolutely use single mode mating sleeves with multi mode 
fiber.  The other way around adds attenuation.



On 11/3/2015 6:42 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

the couplers are passive, other that having the wrong color they will work fine.

if you are out of time, then choices are going to be pretty limited

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -

From: "Matt" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 6:33:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
Yes, thats what I want.  Trying to find something I can next day air.

Found this but its multimode and I need single or will it matter?
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-N490-016-SCSC-Fiber-Patch/dp/B000LSZ2G8/




On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:

I think you are making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for your
self.

You have a few options:-

For low port density, you can get a 1u keystone panel and add single fiber SC-SC
keystone jacks to make your install nice and neat.
Plug your incoming cables to the back side of the keystone plug, and use a
standard SC-LC patch cable on the front.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -

From: "Matt" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module
Anyone know of a 1u panel these will snap into?

http://www.tripplite.com/duplex-multimode-8.3-125-fiber-adapter-lc-sc-male-female-0.3m-1-ft~N4580019/


On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jason McKemie
 wrote:

Fiberstore.com would be where I would look. Maybe monoprice as well.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Matt  wrote:

You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers

Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
like that?


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
 wrote:

I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
that
form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
mount
panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt 
wrote:

Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
our PTP fibers?

Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.

Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.

Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.



http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211

Re: [AFMUG] Synchronizing bookmarks

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

you could probably do some creative registry hacks like we did with google
earth to share a default map. But that stuff breaks so easy

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
wrote:

> Anyone know of an extension that synchronizes select folders bookmarks
> with colleagues (not necessarily the browser’s entire set of bookmarks)?
> Or an extension that is able to keep its own set of synchronized bookmarks
> separate from the browser’s built-in bookmark set?
>
>
>
> Trying to find a way to basically have a “Work” folder of bookmarks shared
> with colleagues without messing up their personal bookmarks and have a
> single place to push updates to those bookmarks **without** using one of
> the many web-based solutions out there.
>
>
>
> `S
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Arizona had an earthquake today

[Ty Featherling]

Jamie for President! Si se puede!
-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I can send relief beer to help out in this crisis
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Nov 3, 2015 4:55 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
>> No worries though.  We are working on the repairs now.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image:
>> https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12191720_10207847274929378_2937235182374566709_n.jpg?oh=73253e33a0a205c5806ca477301cdc62=56FA80CD]
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> “I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life
>> are good friends and a good bullpen.”
>>
>>  ~Baseball saying by: Bob Lemon
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Matt]

>>>You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers

Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
like that?


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
 wrote:
> I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in that
> form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack mount
> panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt  wrote:
>>
>> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
>> our PTP fibers?
>>
>> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
>> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
>> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
>>
>> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
>>
>> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
>> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
>> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
>> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
>>
>>
>> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211
>
>

[AFMUG] current(est) 3ghz rulings

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Where do we stand on the new 100mhz and the existing 50?

Im working with a third party IT firm that handles IT for the owners of
three towers we colocate. They have a 3.65 license and are looking at this
for a backhaul solution. One of the three towers is in a big player are who
is rolling out 3ghz 450.

Its a slick idea for customer locking to have their interconnection tied to
a license you own, break contract and your data link goes down because you
cant operate it.

This is a very friendly communication, the guy has actually tried to hire
me and we are colocated at other sites that they handle the IT for. My
biggest concern is that the IT folks will deploy something now that could
have a cease order in the near future.

Is my understanding correct in that the current 50 will not be a part of
the three tiers? Thats doable to some degree (fucks us for PMP, but
landlords are landlords, we could pulll a lease fight, which we would win,
but it would be followed with the implementation of the 2 year eviction
notice, not really a win)



Out of curiosity, from the perspective of the FCC, how does this work out
when a license holder is using 3ghz to do ptp for a private network?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Arizona had an earthquake today

[Jaime Solorza]

I can send relief beer to help out in this crisis

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 3, 2015 4:55 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> No worries though.  We are working on the repairs now.
>
>
>
> [image:
> https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12191720_10207847274929378_2937235182374566709_n.jpg?oh=73253e33a0a205c5806ca477301cdc62=56FA80CD]
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life
> are good friends and a good bullpen.”
>
>  ~Baseball saying by: Bob Lemon
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Arizona had an earthquake today

[Rory Conaway]

That’s exactly the kind of help we need in this crisis.  I’ll straighten up the 
chair so we can make maximum results of your assistance.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 7:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arizona had an earthquake today

Jamie for President! Si se puede!
-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:

I can send relief beer to help out in this crisis

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 3, 2015 4:55 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
> wrote:
No worries though.  We are working on the repairs now.

[https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12191720_10207847274929378_2937235182374566709_n.jpg?oh=73253e33a0a205c5806ca477301cdc62=56FA80CD]

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are 
good friends and a good bullpen.”
 ~Baseball saying by: Bob Lemon

Re: [AFMUG] gbit syncinjector with epmp

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

it shows 5, I dont know if that resets on a power cycle. I have an uptime
of 6 days. I switched one to using internal GPS sync and it hasnt lost sync
since, the other is still doing it a few times per hour.

I dont think its actually hurting anything since the sync hold-off is at
the default 30 seconds and it comes back up

Probably some cambium hate code for not using a cambium syncsource

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:33 AM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Steve, what does your Binary I/O tab look like? Specifically the 1PPS
> Active event counter? Across multiple sites now, I see all of the 450 APs
> lose sync from the SyncInjector at the same time. I go look at the stats
> and there's no indication of a loss of sync. The 1PPS counter is still at 1
> (or 0 if I clear it). I believe what's happening in my case is the on-board
> GPS starts freaking out and/or some AutoSync bug.
>
> On 11/2/2015 10:33 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> We moved the syncpipe over to full sky 11 sats visisble and still seeing
> sync loss on both APs attached to it, switched to the epmp GPS in the mean
> time.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> It's funny, we were just discussing this at Telrad's LTE training.
>> Since the sats are moving around they said losing GPS once in awhile
>> might indicate a partial LOS issue, especially if it's at the same time
>> every day.
>>
>>
>> On 10/27/2015 7:55 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> That's the instantaneous readout.
>>
>> You should monitor it on an ongoing basis. Below is a site where we see
>> periodic 1 PPS pulse drops. Notice the dip in the tracked sats shortly
>> after 15:00. If it had gone down to 3, it would have (very briefly) stopped
>> the 1 PPS. When it does that, we sometimes get session restarts on all the
>> subs.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 10/27/2015 3:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> 1 Sats Visible #1 1 1 #18(76,019)(37) #21(58,179)(39) #24(49,097)(45)
>> #22(46,300)(24) 2 Sats Visible #2 1 2 #51(39,207)(28) #14(38,235)(15)
>> #15(28,055)(24) #20(22,099)(41) 3 Sats Visible #3 1 3 #27(22,299)(28)
>> #13(10,046)(37) #08(05,328)(21) #29(01,185)(33) 4 Sats Visible #4 1 4 5 Sats
>> Visible #5 1 5 6 Sats Used 1 6
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Bill Prince < 
>> part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Take a look at how many sats you're getting on the sync pipe. If there
>>> is a partial sky (or "something"), and you drop below 4 sats, it will drop
>>> the sync pulse.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/27/2015 2:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> we put a couple of these up yesterday since then they keep dropping sync
>>> for a few seconds a few times an hour, they new APs 2.5.1 fw, configured to
>>> sync from cmm4, am i doing something wrong here?
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Module

[Steve Utick]

Maybe something from here:

http://fibertronics-store.com/1RU-12-and-24-Port-Adapter-Plates_c987.htm


On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Matt  wrote:

> >>>You'll probably just need to get a rack mount panel with SC/SC couplers
>
> Thats conclusion I have come too.  Been search ebay trying to find
> something like that with no luck.  Do you know where to find something
> like that?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie
>  wrote:
> > I use some SC SFPs, but they are bidi-only.  There isn't enough room in
> that
> > form factor for two SC ports.  You'll probably just need to get a rack
> mount
> > panel with SC/SC couplers and then use short SC/LC patch cables.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matt 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there an SFP module for Mikrotik that has dual SC connectors for
> >> our PTP fibers?
> >>
> >> Probably not so is there a short LC to SC adapter pigtail that mounts
> >> in something like a 1u panel?  LC plugs into 1u panel and short
> >> pigtail LC connectors that plug is SFP module in Mikrotik.
> >>
> >> Just to make it neat and reliable in our rack space.
> >>
> >> Right now we are using these Antaira media converters in a rack mount
> >> but it gives us no diagnostics besides looking at the lights and thats
> >> even difficult when 100 miles away.  Think an SFP plugged right in
> >> Mikrotik CCR would tell us more.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.antaira.com.tw/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211
> >
> >
>