Re: [AFMUG] Baicells power and data connectivity

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

In addition to what everyone else suggested, you should be able to power
these with either a powerinjector+sync (4 ports), or a rackinjector with
the standard injection card with standard CAT5.

-forrest

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> Those of you who have Baicells deployed, how are you powering the base
> station?
>
> Are you running something like 14/2 up the tower and providing -/+48VDC
> directly?
>
> Ugh - I thought the eNB had SFP's, but it looks like I need to provide
> data over CAT5/6?
>
>
>


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Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells power and data connectivity

[George Skorup]

Yeah, the eNB pulls 30-ish watts. Cat5 is good nuf. Not much different 
than 802.3at.


On 10/23/2017 9:03 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I thought about using a second cat5 for power, but I had some 14/2, so 
I used that... but 14 guage really seems like overkill to me.


On Oct 23, 2017 8:56 PM, "George Skorup" > wrote:


Two cat5's. One obviously to the data/WAN port. The other, two
pairs positive, two pairs negative. Nothing else. We did try a
GigE-POE-SS (top) and GigE-POE-APC (bottom). Power worked fine,
but couldn't get the etherlink link to come up. It was about 290
feet of cable. The eNBs have built-in SS on the data port, so
possibly too much loss or something with the MTC suppressors added in.

The new eNB coming out will have a standard terminal block and two
SFP slots. I'm planning to use the Shireen DFP-1246 with that.

On 10/23/2017 8:36 PM, Josh Baird wrote:

Those of you who have Baicells deployed, how are you powering
the base station?

Are you running something like 14/2 up the tower and providing
-/+48VDC directly?

Ugh - I thought the eNB had SFP's, but it looks like I need to
provide data over CAT5/6?

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells power and data connectivity

[Mathew Howard]

I thought about using a second cat5 for power, but I had some 14/2, so I
used that... but 14 guage really seems like overkill to me.

On Oct 23, 2017 8:56 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> Two cat5's. One obviously to the data/WAN port. The other, two pairs
> positive, two pairs negative. Nothing else. We did try a GigE-POE-SS (top)
> and GigE-POE-APC (bottom). Power worked fine, but couldn't get the
> etherlink link to come up. It was about 290 feet of cable. The eNBs have
> built-in SS on the data port, so possibly too much loss or something with
> the MTC suppressors added in.
>
> The new eNB coming out will have a standard terminal block and two SFP
> slots. I'm planning to use the Shireen DFP-1246 with that.
>
> On 10/23/2017 8:36 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
>> Those of you who have Baicells deployed, how are you powering the base
>> station?
>>
>> Are you running something like 14/2 up the tower and providing -/+48VDC
>> directly?
>>
>> Ugh - I thought the eNB had SFP's, but it looks like I need to provide
>> data over CAT5/6?
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells power and data connectivity

[George Skorup]

Two cat5's. One obviously to the data/WAN port. The other, two pairs 
positive, two pairs negative. Nothing else. We did try a GigE-POE-SS 
(top) and GigE-POE-APC (bottom). Power worked fine, but couldn't get the 
etherlink link to come up. It was about 290 feet of cable. The eNBs have 
built-in SS on the data port, so possibly too much loss or something 
with the MTC suppressors added in.


The new eNB coming out will have a standard terminal block and two SFP 
slots. I'm planning to use the Shireen DFP-1246 with that.


On 10/23/2017 8:36 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
Those of you who have Baicells deployed, how are you powering the base 
station?


Are you running something like 14/2 up the tower and providing 
-/+48VDC directly?


Ugh - I thought the eNB had SFP's, but it looks like I need to provide 
data over CAT5/6?

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells power and data connectivity

[Joe Novak]

Running 14/2 up the tower to provide power directly, and a CAT5e for
data... I heard rumors of guys running them off netonix switch ports.


Joe

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> Those of you who have Baicells deployed, how are you powering the base
> station?
>
> Are you running something like 14/2 up the tower and providing -/+48VDC
> directly?
>
> Ugh - I thought the eNB had SFP's, but it looks like I need to provide
> data over CAT5/6?
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Baicells power and data connectivity

[Josh Baird]

Those of you who have Baicells deployed, how are you powering the base
station?

Are you running something like 14/2 up the tower and providing -/+48VDC
directly?

Ugh - I thought the eNB had SFP's, but it looks like I need to provide data
over CAT5/6?

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

[John Seaman]

Hi Mitch, Cambium 820c will do this, provided you can coordinate the 
frequenciesrequired.  As others suggested, you probably want to go with lower 6 
GHz with 60 MHz channels.  This will need to be a 4+0 configuration for 2 gig, 
but you can start off with a 2+0 (dual core radio) for your 1 gig for starters. 
 In the end, you will have two 2+0 systems (XPIC most likely) on the same 
antenna, which is nice for redundancy purposes.  If you want us to take a look 
at the path hit me up off-list john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com.

John



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Koep
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

Am looking at a 22.4 mile link that needs a gig now and 2 gig by end of next 
year

Am trying to figure out the best gear for this application

Thanks

Mitch

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

[Timothy Steele]

UCRM from ubnt is free and getting very good

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017, 12:50 PM Layne Sisk  wrote:

> Their recent changes looks great!  I think you will like them.
>
>
>
> Layne Sisk
>
> ServerPlus
>
> 801.426.8283, ext 102
>
> [image: New logo xl] 
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
> 
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
> 
>
> [image: Utah 100]   [image: fast50-01][image: Inc 5000]
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:43 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing systems
>
>
>
> Thanks Layne.  We are moving forward with VISP.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Layne Sisk
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:28 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing systems
>
>
>
> If you are still looking for something hit me offlist.
>
>
>
> Layne Sisk
>
> ServerPlus
>
> 801.426.8283, ext 102
>
> [image: New logo xl] 
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
> 
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
> 
>
> [image: Utah 100]   [image: fast50-01][image: Inc 5000]
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
>
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] billing systems
>
>
>
> We just started deploying Wispmon because it used Mikrotik and supported
> HotSpots.  Now with Sonar, they don’t support Hot-Spots.  I’m told to call
> Brightwifi but my techs have talked to them several times and they keep
> getting told that other calls are coming in or someone is walking into a
> meeting within a minute or two and they never call back  Nothing personal
> but there is no way I’m deploying Bright WiFi if that’s how bad their
> customer service/presale support is and apparently they don’t need new
> customers.  It’s good to be busy, it’s bad to diss companies that are
> trying to give you business.
>
>
> So, we are ready to ditch Wispmon, have no interest in deploying Sonar
> since it doesn’t have the features we need, and find something that can use
> Mikrotik devices since we have so many egress points.   We already wrote
> one in house we deployed for MDU units so I’ll upgrade it if there isn’t a
> better product available.  However, if there is something else out there
> that can do WISP and Hot-Spots, I’d be very interested in looking at it
> immediately.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37 th
> Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> *“It’s not the team with the best players that win, it’s the players with
> the best team that wins!”* — Humphrey Bogart
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik powerbox pro for sale ?

[Jason McKemie]

Sorry, I missed the "pro" part.  It doesn't look like they have that one.

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> I think Streakwave has some.
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_7102724706261712550_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> Anybody know of stock on these, or are looking to sell some of your own
>> you don’t use?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>> 
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>> 
>>
>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik powerbox pro for sale ?

[Jason McKemie]

I think Streakwave has some.


Virus-free.
www.avast.com

<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Anybody know of stock on these, or are looking to sell some of your own
> you don’t use?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> 
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT disk crap management

[Josh Luthman]

I've used SpaceMonger for ages.  Always worked great.  Nice and portable,
too -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/860pxvf4bi74znh/spacemonger.exe?dl=0


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I love drive cleanup days, but I never get to do them anymore.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 10/23/2017 11:54:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT disk crap management
>
> i hate drive cleanup days
>
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:26 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Someday I will have 10 TB SSDs in everything.  Until that day...
>>
>> (I keep all the new important stuff on Google Drive and on 3 different
>> local drives).
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 22, 2017 2:22 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT disk crap management
>>
>> WinDirStat is pretty awesome.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:21:23 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT disk crap management
>>
>> I have a desktop that has a C drive that is only maybe 200 GB.
>>
>> D drive that is much larger.
>> Today I tried to upgrade adobe and it had to use the C drive and it said
>> there was not enough room.
>>
>> I ran into a full drive problem last week on a different computer  and
>> loaded a program called WinDirStat.
>> Makes it very easy to see where all the crap is and makes it easy to
>> clean and delete.
>> Easy to drill down and find the bloat.
>>
>> I don’t think I mentioned this here before, if I did just blame the mad
>> cow disease.
>>
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] mikrotik powerbox pro for sale ?

[Paul McCall]

Anybody know of stock on these, or are looking to sell some of your own you 
don't use?

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

[AFMUG] Wispa to FCC

[Dave]

http://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/wispa-pays-visit-to-fcc-effort-to-thwart-changes-to-3-5-ghz-cbrs-rules?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWWprMFpqbGlPV1V6TTJFMyIsInQiOiJrSW1cL1wvanVYS1hQUXd1QmlqanpiSnpXV3lRRlVzRzlTdm1KeWtrR2VYeFVDV1d5aklqVWQzN1NZV3dTRVN0bjFyaUtoWHYzcFduZkxvd0Q4S3JTVW1vRWpYOHNydmJ3SDliK3VJdjJOeFdNZm9nNHVMR1RLeFlQRnl2XC80OGdSZCJ9=4544202_medium=nl_source=internal

--

Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

[Robert]

Nylocks...   On top of the nuts...   We had a panel that "blew through" 
it's frame.   That took about 95-110 knts sustained.   It was an older 
135 watt panel, and the 230 next to it made it through.   I figure it 
was a lot of how the wind was hitting things in front of the panel.   We 
now have superstrut mounted mid panels and mount horizontally instead of 
vertically to keep the force from top to bottom lesser as the force 
horizontally should be more uniform.   We also went from 1/2 inch 
superstrut supports to full 1 inch.


I'll bet a lot of the damage to the PV solar arrays were blown debris 
failing the panel mounts more than the mounts themselves and of course 
when they fail, you get more blown debris...   Surviving panels probably 
had some kind of relief from debris...


On 10/23/17 7:54 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
We were just talking about this the other day. On our second solar site, 
we had a storm that effectively "disassembled" . It was a Unirac 
side-pole mount similar to the one pictured below my signature. It was 
made from extruded aluminum and bolted together with stainless hardware.


The wind built up some kind of sympathetic vibration, and about half of 
the bolts and nuts came loose and fell to the ground. The ones that 
remained were pulled through the aluminum extrusions, which then bent, 
twisted, and "took flight". At that time we had 2 150 watt panels 
installed. One of the solar panels landed 100-150 feet away, and landed 
in soft mud. Except for a couple of minor bends in the frame, it was 
intact, and still functional. The second panel landed about 1/4 mile 
away, and was almost completely disassembled. Quite a sight in retrospect.



bp


Side of Pole Mount for 1x Type B Solar Module 20-26\" x 39-53\"On 
10/23/2017 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I would sure like to study the ones that are left and try to determine 
why some ripped off and some didn't.  Lots of really good research 
opportunities there.


-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 11:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what's left disappears...

On 10/23/17 7:19 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

[Bill Prince]

I went a step further. Had a local fabricator build a steel rack from 
2x2 square tubing that was mostly welded together. It lasted several 
more years, and many more storms until we needed to add a few more 
larger solar panels.


bp


On 10/23/2017 11:05 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Double nut or nylocks or both.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2017 11:54 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

We were just talking about this the other day. On our second solar 
site, we had a storm that effectively "disassembled" . It was a Unirac 
side-pole mount similar to the one pictured below my signature. It was 
made from extruded aluminum and bolted together with stainless hardware.


The wind built up some kind of sympathetic vibration, and about half 
of the bolts and nuts came loose and fell to the ground. The ones that 
remained were pulled through the aluminum extrusions, which then bent, 
twisted, and "took flight". At that time we had 2 150 watt panels 
installed. One of the solar panels landed 100-150 feet away, and 
landed in soft mud. Except for a couple of minor bends in the frame, 
it was intact, and still functional. The second panel landed about 1/4 
mile away, and was almost completely disassembled. Quite a sight in 
retrospect.


bp


Side of Pole Mount for 1x Type B Solar Module 20-26\" x 39-53\"On 
10/23/2017 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I would sure like to study the ones that are left and try to 
determine why some ripped off and some didn't.  Lots of really good 
research opportunities there.


-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 11:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what's left disappears...

On 10/23/17 7:19 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

[Chuck McCown]

Double nut or nylocks or both.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 11:54 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

We were just talking about this the other day. On our second solar site, we had 
a storm that effectively "disassembled" . It was a Unirac side-pole mount 
similar to the one pictured below my signature. It was made from extruded 
aluminum and bolted together with stainless hardware.

The wind built up some kind of sympathetic vibration, and about half of the 
bolts and nuts came loose and fell to the ground. The ones that remained were 
pulled through the aluminum extrusions, which then bent, twisted, and "took 
flight". At that time we had 2 150 watt panels installed. One of the solar 
panels landed 100-150 feet away, and landed in soft mud. Except for a couple of 
minor bends in the frame, it was intact, and still functional. The second panel 
landed about 1/4 mile away, and was almost completely disassembled. Quite a 
sight in retrospect.



bp


On 10/23/2017 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I would sure like to study the ones that are left and try to determine why 
some ripped off and some didn't.  Lots of really good research opportunities 
there. 

  -Original Message- From: Robert 
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 11:28 AM 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR 

  I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what's left disappears... 

  On 10/23/17 7:19 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: 

Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

[Bill Prince]

We were just talking about this the other day. On our second solar site, 
we had a storm that effectively "disassembled" . It was a Unirac 
side-pole mount similar to the one pictured below my signature. It was 
made from extruded aluminum and bolted together with stainless hardware.


The wind built up some kind of sympathetic vibration, and about half of 
the bolts and nuts came loose and fell to the ground. The ones that 
remained were pulled through the aluminum extrusions, which then bent, 
twisted, and "took flight". At that time we had 2 150 watt panels 
installed. One of the solar panels landed 100-150 feet away, and landed 
in soft mud. Except for a couple of minor bends in the frame, it was 
intact, and still functional. The second panel landed about 1/4 mile 
away, and was almost completely disassembled. Quite a sight in retrospect.



bp


Side of Pole Mount for 1x Type B Solar Module 20-26\" x 39-53\"On 
10/23/2017 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I would sure like to study the ones that are left and try to determine 
why some ripped off and some didn't.  Lots of really good research 
opportunities there.


-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 11:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what's left disappears...

On 10/23/17 7:19 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

[Chuck McCown]

I would sure like to study the ones that are left and try to determine why 
some ripped off and some didn't.  Lots of really good research opportunities 
there.


-Original Message- 
From: Robert

Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 11:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what's left disappears...

On 10/23/17 7:19 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: 

Re: [AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

[Robert]

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what's left disappears...

On 10/23/17 7:19 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

[AFMUG] Solar farm in PR

[Chuck McCown]

Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch

[George Skorup]

902-928 is primary radio-location, secondary hamateur, and tertiary ISM 
in the US (and Canada?). But yeah, most of the rest of the world it's 
licensed which is why you typically see lots of antennas for 800-960.


So about that primary. We had a railroad beacon two blocks away from one 
of our towers. Narrowband high power (30W EIRP or something like that) 
around 911-912. PMP100 on an omni with about 5 customers. Didn't work 
anymore. Couldn't go high in the band, too much paging bleeding over. 
Smart meters/grid. 900 is getting more and more worthless every day.


On 10/23/2017 10:06 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_frequency_bands

Looks like Peru, parts of Europe, parts of Africa.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Adam Moffett" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, October 23, 2017 10:04:44 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give 
iPhone users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch


I don't know.  It might be a band they use in another country.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/23/2017 11:03:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone
users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch

>Odd, is it licensed?  I presume it is.  Does the license actually call
>out part of the unlicensed band?
>
>-Original Message- From: Adam Moffett
>Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:06 AM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone
>users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch
>
>Wiki says Band 8 Uplink is 880 to 915, downlink is 925-960
>
>I hope Gino is not doing much 900
>
>
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Robert" 
>To: af@afmug.com
>Sent: 10/23/2017 3:18:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone
>users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch
>
>>"LTE Band 8 is a 900Mhz band, which means that it has much improved
>>range over lower frequency bands."
>>
>>Ummm  never knew things worked that way..   Wow, 60Ghz must go
>>forever...
>>
>>On 10/22/17 6:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>Who wrote this? Auggh
>>>
>>>https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/apple-and-att-activate-provisional-lte-band-8-to-give-iphone-users-in-puerto-rico-cellular-service/
>

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

[Layne Sisk]

Their recent changes looks great!  I think you will like them.

Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102
[New logo xl]
[http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
[Utah 100]   [fast50-01] [Inc 5000]

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

Thanks Layne.  We are moving forward with VISP.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Layne Sisk
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

If you are still looking for something hit me offlist.

Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102
[New logo xl]
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] billing systems

We just started deploying Wispmon because it used Mikrotik and supported 
HotSpots.  Now with Sonar, they don't support Hot-Spots.  I'm told to call 
Brightwifi but my techs have talked to them several times and they keep getting 
told that other calls are coming in or someone is walking into a meeting within 
a minute or two and they never call back  Nothing personal but there is no way 
I'm deploying Bright WiFi if that's how bad their customer service/presale 
support is and apparently they don't need new customers.  It's good to be busy, 
it's bad to diss companies that are trying to give you business.

So, we are ready to ditch Wispmon, have no interest in deploying Sonar since it 
doesn't have the features we need, and find something that can use Mikrotik 
devices since we have so many egress points.   We already wrote one in house we 
deployed for MDU units so I'll upgrade it if there isn't a better product 
available.  However, if there is something else out there that can do WISP and 
Hot-Spots, I'd be very interested in looking at it immediately.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"It's not the team with the best players that win, it's the players with the 
best team that wins!" - Humphrey Bogart

Re: [AFMUG] OT disk crap management

[Adam Moffett]

I love drive cleanup days, but I never get to do them anymore.


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 10/23/2017 11:54:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT disk crap management


i hate drive cleanup days

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:26 PM,  wrote:

Someday I will have 10 TB SSDs in everything.  Until that day...

(I keep all the new important stuff on Google Drive and on 3 different 
local drives).


From:Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 2:22 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT disk crap management

WinDirStat is pretty awesome.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 


Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 


The Brothers WISP 





From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:21:23 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT disk crap management

I have a desktop that has a C drive that is only maybe 200 GB.

D drive that is much larger.
Today I tried to upgrade adobe and it had to use the C drive and it 
said there was not enough room.


I ran into a full drive problem last week on a different computer  and 
loaded a program called WinDirStat.
Makes it very easy to see where all the crap is and makes it easy to 
clean and delete.

Easy to drill down and find the bloat.

I don’t think I mentioned this here before, if I did just blame the 
mad cow disease.

Re: [AFMUG] OT disk crap management

[Steve Jones]

i hate drive cleanup days

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:26 PM,  wrote:

> Someday I will have 10 TB SSDs in everything.  Until that day...
>
> (I keep all the new important stuff on Google Drive and on 3 different
> local drives).
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 22, 2017 2:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT disk crap management
>
> WinDirStat is pretty awesome.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:21:23 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT disk crap management
>
> I have a desktop that has a C drive that is only maybe 200 GB.
>
> D drive that is much larger.
> Today I tried to upgrade adobe and it had to use the C drive and it said
> there was not enough room.
>
> I ran into a full drive problem last week on a different computer  and
> loaded a program called WinDirStat.
> Makes it very easy to see where all the crap is and makes it easy to clean
> and delete.
> Easy to drill down and find the bloat.
>
> I don’t think I mentioned this here before, if I did just blame the mad
> cow disease.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch

[Mike Hammett]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_frequency_bands 

Looks like Peru, parts of Europe, parts of Africa. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Adam Moffett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 10:04:44 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone users in 
Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch 

I don't know. It might be a band they use in another country. 


-- Original Message -- 
From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 10/23/2017 11:03:24 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone 
users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch 

>Odd, is it licensed? I presume it is. Does the license actually call 
>out part of the unlicensed band? 
> 
>-Original Message- From: Adam Moffett 
>Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:06 AM 
>To: af@afmug.com 
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone 
>users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch 
> 
>Wiki says Band 8 Uplink is 880 to 915, downlink is 925-960 
> 
>I hope Gino is not doing much 900 
> 
> 
>-- Original Message -- 
>From: "Robert"  
>To: af@afmug.com 
>Sent: 10/23/2017 3:18:18 AM 
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone 
>users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch 
> 
>>"LTE Band 8 is a 900Mhz band, which means that it has much improved 
>>range over lower frequency bands." 
>> 
>>Ummm never knew things worked that way.. Wow, 60Ghz must go 
>>forever... 
>> 
>>On 10/22/17 6:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: 
>>>Who wrote this? Auggh 
>>> 
>>>https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/apple-and-att-activate-provisional-lte-band-8-to-give-iphone-users-in-puerto-rico-cellular-service/
>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch

[Adam Moffett]

I don't know.  It might be a band they use in another country.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/23/2017 11:03:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone 
users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch


Odd, is it licensed?  I presume it is.  Does the license actually call 
out part of the unlicensed band?


-Original Message- From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone 
users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch


Wiki says Band 8 Uplink is 880 to 915, downlink is 925-960

I hope Gino is not doing much 900


-- Original Message --
From: "Robert" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/23/2017 3:18:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone
users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch

"LTE Band 8 is a 900Mhz band, which means that it has much improved 
range over lower frequency bands."


Ummm  never knew things worked that way..   Wow, 60Ghz must go 
forever...


On 10/22/17 6:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Who wrote this? Auggh

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/apple-and-att-activate-provisional-lte-band-8-to-give-iphone-users-in-puerto-rico-cellular-service/

Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch

[Chuck McCown]

Odd, is it licensed?  I presume it is.  Does the license actually call out 
part of the unlicensed band?


-Original Message- 
From: Adam Moffett

Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone users 
in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch


Wiki says Band 8 Uplink is 880 to 915, downlink is 925-960

I hope Gino is not doing much 900


-- Original Message --
From: "Robert" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/23/2017 3:18:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone
users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch

"LTE Band 8 is a 900Mhz band, which means that it has much improved range 
over lower frequency bands."


Ummm  never knew things worked that way..   Wow, 60Ghz must go forever...

On 10/22/17 6:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Who wrote this? Auggh

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/apple-and-att-activate-provisional-lte-band-8-to-give-iphone-users-in-puerto-rico-cellular-service/

[AFMUG] Fw:  Update #1 from Project Reconnect Puerto Rico

[Chuck McCown]

From: Project Reconnect Puerto Rico via Generosity 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:15 AM
To: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Subject:  Update #1 from Project Reconnect Puerto Rico

 

   
You’ve Received a Fundraiser Update! 
 
   
Hello chuck,
 
The ‘Project Reconnect Puerto Rico’ team just 
posted on Generosity 

Thank you so much to all the people who have 
donated so far! Because of you, Silo and Verticomm can help restore internet 
connections in Puerto Rico, reconnecting families and getting businesses back 
in business!

Silo and Verticomm's #ReconnectPuertoRico team 
took this photo last night before boarding their plane! They touch down in 
Puerto Rico today at noon. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram for 
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Help spread the word about this Generosity 
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[AFMUG] Small Handholes with Swing Arms

[Carl Peterson]

I'm trying to source small handholes with swing arms for either the
Clearfield YourX or Coyote DTC4 terminals.

Either Carson or Channell like the ones here:
http://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=srchrtrv=1349650=SS=English

I can find part numbers for the Channel ones but can't seem to get a good
quote for them, possibly because Channell seems to be all disorganized
right now.

Short of secondary references to them, I can't seem to find the swing arms
for the Carson ones.

Does anyone have a source where I can actually buy either of these?  I need
to order 24 of them ASAP, preferably with a lead time of less then a month
but I can possibly deal with 45 days.


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

[Josh Baird]

Can you comment on the price range of the Cablefree microwave products?
How much would a FOR3 or Diamond link cost?

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Stephen Patrick <
stephen.patr...@cablefree.co.uk> wrote:

> CableFree have jus launched the new Diamond product.
>
> www.cablefree.net/diamond
> Up to 2Gbps full duplex, using 2048QAM, wide channels and XPIC.  Full
> outdoor integrated radio
> Currently shipping in higher frequency bands.
>
> For lower frequency bands the existing CableFree HCR product stacked to
> 1+1 = 2Gbps would be great too.
> www.cablefree.net/hcr
>
> I hope that's of interest,
>
> Best regards
> Stephen
>
>
> On 21 October 2017 at 23:32, Mitch Koep  wrote:
>
>> Am looking at a 22.4 mile link that needs a gig now and 2 gig by end of
>> next year
>>
>> Am trying to figure out the best gear for this application
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mitch
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch

[Adam Moffett]

Wiki says Band 8 Uplink is 880 to 915, downlink is 925-960

I hope Gino is not doing much 900


-- Original Message --
From: "Robert" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/23/2017 3:18:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone 
users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch


"LTE Band 8 is a 900Mhz band, which means that it has much improved 
range over lower frequency bands."


Ummm  never knew things worked that way..   Wow, 60Ghz must go 
forever...


On 10/22/17 6:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Who wrote this? Auggh

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/apple-and-att-activate-provisional-lte-band-8-to-give-iphone-users-in-puerto-rico-cellular-service/

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

[Stephen Patrick]

CableFree have jus launched the new Diamond product.

www.cablefree.net/diamond
Up to 2Gbps full duplex, using 2048QAM, wide channels and XPIC.  Full
outdoor integrated radio
Currently shipping in higher frequency bands.

For lower frequency bands the existing CableFree HCR product stacked to 1+1
= 2Gbps would be great too.
www.cablefree.net/hcr

I hope that's of interest,

Best regards
Stephen


On 21 October 2017 at 23:32, Mitch Koep  wrote:

> Am looking at a 22.4 mile link that needs a gig now and 2 gig by end of
> next year
>
> Am trying to figure out the best gear for this application
>
> Thanks
>
> Mitch
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Apple and AT activate LTE Band 8 to give iPhone users in Puerto Rico cellular service by Loon Balloon | TechCrunch

[Robert]

"LTE Band 8 is a 900Mhz band, which means that it has much improved 
range over lower frequency bands."


Ummm  never knew things worked that way..   Wow, 60Ghz must go forever...

On 10/22/17 6:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Who wrote this? Auggh

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/apple-and-att-activate-provisional-lte-band-8-to-give-iphone-users-in-puerto-rico-cellular-service/