Re: [AFMUG] FCC

[Jaime Solorza]

Badges? Who needs stinking badges?

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 4, 2017 11:04 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> This is the lifeline order.  It identifies “wireless carriers” as those
> with licensed spectrum.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, December 04, 2017 10:47 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC
>
>
> You mean this one?
>
> https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=
> 517312=2017%20NAICS%20Search
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Y’all are now a new thing:
> https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517311=2017
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Outdoor 12 or 24 fiber pigtail

[Jason McKemie]

Does anyone have a source for these? I ordered one from fiberstore and it's
junk. My domestic supplier has a 3 week lead time.

Re: [AFMUG] Contract for special events

[Lewis Bergman]

I think Gino did a fair amount of this.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:29 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

> I hoping that someone has a decent contract for providing Internet special
> events that they are willing to share?  We are providing a private Network
> / WiFi for processing tickets sales, parking passes etc. for a concert, and
> I have gotten behind on getting a contract ready.  This is not providing
> Public WiFi, but rather supporting the event coordinators.
>
>
>
> 
>
> If you want to connect with us OFFLIST, that would be great.
>
> 
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> 
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Contract for special events

[Paul McCall]

I hoping that someone has a decent contract for providing Internet special 
events that they are willing to share?  We are providing a private Network / 
WiFi for processing tickets sales, parking passes etc. for a concert, and I 
have gotten behind on getting a contract ready.  This is not providing Public 
WiFi, but rather supporting the event coordinators.

If you want to connect with us OFFLIST, that would be great.

Thanks!

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Does unlimited mobile data decrease bandwidth usage

[Darin Steffl]

I guess when between my family and business our Verizon bill is upwards of
$770 per month, I use as little wifi as possible so I keep my mobile usage
on their network to get my money's worth.

On Dec 4, 2017 11:20 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> I've almost always had unlimited and I almost always use WiFi when
> available.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Nate Burke" 
> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
> *Sent: *Monday, December 4, 2017 10:34:35 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Does unlimited mobile data decrease bandwidth usage
>
> Since more Cell companies are switching to unlimited plans/streaming
> included, has that changed if people will actually bother to connect
> mobile devices to Wifi?  I may be shooting myself in the foot, (maybe I
> should find some wood to knock on) but it seems like bandwidth usage has
> had a noticeable drop since Black Friday.  Our BW trend this year has
> been steadily increasing, but since mid November, consumption is down,
> most notably in that overnight peaks are less.   So I'm curious that if
> $standarduser switches to an "Unlimited data" plan, they don't even
> bother to connect to WIFI.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] welcome to the new normal?

[Seth Mattinen]

On 12/4/17 10:10, Matt wrote:

I really don't understand what is costing an extra $20 a month?



Adding another line (probably a hotspot device) to their existing cell 
service.

Re: [AFMUG] welcome to the new normal?

[Matt]

I really don't understand what is costing an extra $20 a month?

Re: [AFMUG] Older AF5 from first productions runs (not AF5X) 24VDC?

[Chuck Macenski]

AF5 and AF5U units always shipped with 50V PoE blocks. The issue to which
you refer was AF5X only.

Chuck


On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> No, as far as I know all Integrated AF5 are 48v only (I'm pretty sure they
> won't even run on 24v).
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>
>> Was there also a series of the integrated AF5 built that was 24VDC only?
>> Somebody from ubnt here posted the MAC address range for the AF5X which
>> were mistakenly shipped as 24VDC-only...
>>
>> Or are they all definitely 48VDC?
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Older AF5 from first productions runs (not AF5X) 24VDC?

[Mathew Howard]

No, as far as I know all Integrated AF5 are 48v only (I'm pretty sure they
won't even run on 24v).

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Was there also a series of the integrated AF5 built that was 24VDC only?
> Somebody from ubnt here posted the MAC address range for the AF5X which
> were mistakenly shipped as 24VDC-only...
>
> Or are they all definitely 48VDC?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC

[Chuck McCown]

This is the lifeline order.  It identifies “wireless carriers” as those with 
licensed spectrum.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC

You mean this one?

https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517312=2017%20NAICS%20Search


bp


On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Y’all are now a new thing:
  https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517311=2017

Re: [AFMUG] FCC

[Chuck McCown]

3. Internet Service Providers 
22. Internet Service Providers (Broadband). Broadband Internet service 
providers include wired (e.g., cable, DSL) and VoIP service providers using 
their own operated wired telecommunications infrastructure fall in the category 
of Wired Telecommunication Carriers.

82 Wired Telecommunications Carriers are comprised of establishments primarily 
engaged in operating and/or providing access to transmission facilities and 
infrastructure that they own and/or lease for the transmission of voice, data, 
text, sound, and video using wired telecommunications networks. Transmission 
facilities may be based on a single technology or a combination of technologies.


From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC

You mean this one?

https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517312=2017%20NAICS%20Search


bp


On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Y’all are now a new thing:
  https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517311=2017

Re: [AFMUG] FCC

[Steve Jones]

I assume this somehow will get us taxed more

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Nope, in the R out today the identified all the ISPs as wired
> telecommunications carriers.  I guess you are wired because an Ethernet
> cable is used?  In any event, the specifically called out that NAICS code.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, December 04, 2017 10:47 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC
>
>
> You mean this one?
>
> https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=
> 517312=2017%20NAICS%20Search
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Y’all are now a new thing:
> https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517311=2017
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC

[Chuck McCown]

Nope, in the R out today the identified all the ISPs as wired 
telecommunications carriers.  I guess you are wired because an Ethernet cable 
is used?  In any event, the specifically called out that NAICS code.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC

You mean this one?

https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517312=2017%20NAICS%20Search


bp


On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Y’all are now a new thing:
  https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517311=2017

Re: [AFMUG] FCC

[Bill Prince]

You mean this one?

https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517312=2017%20NAICS%20Search

bp


On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Y’all are now a new thing:
https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517311=2017

[AFMUG] FCC

[Chuck McCown]

Y’all are now a new thing:
https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/sssd/naics/naicsrch?code=517311=2017

[AFMUG] Older AF5 from first productions runs (not AF5X) 24VDC?

[Eric Kuhnke]

Was there also a series of the integrated AF5 built that was 24VDC only?
Somebody from ubnt here posted the MAC address range for the AF5X which
were mistakenly shipped as 24VDC-only...

Or are they all definitely 48VDC?

Re: [AFMUG] Does unlimited mobile data decrease bandwidth usage

[Mike Hammett]

I've almost always had unlimited and I almost always use WiFi when available. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Nate Burke"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:34:35 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Does unlimited mobile data decrease bandwidth usage 

Since more Cell companies are switching to unlimited plans/streaming 
included, has that changed if people will actually bother to connect 
mobile devices to Wifi? I may be shooting myself in the foot, (maybe I 
should find some wood to knock on) but it seems like bandwidth usage has 
had a noticeable drop since Black Friday. Our BW trend this year has 
been steadily increasing, but since mid November, consumption is down, 
most notably in that overnight peaks are less. So I'm curious that if 
$standarduser switches to an "Unlimited data" plan, they don't even 
bother to connect to WIFI. 

Re: [AFMUG] Does unlimited mobile data decrease bandwidth usage

[Seth Mattinen]

On 12/4/17 8:59 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
When I'm not home, I have wifi turned off to use my unlimited. I would 
do the same at home but to run Sonos, my phone needs to be in wifi 
otherwise I'd just use my unlimited to keep the load off my network and 
keep it on Verizon.


Basically, I no longer seek out wifi in order to save data on my plan 
since it's unlimited.



I'll use wifi at home and work, but I don't ever look for free/open wifi 
out in public.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Does unlimited mobile data decrease bandwidth usage

[Darin Steffl]

When I'm not home, I have wifi turned off to use my unlimited. I would do
the same at home but to run Sonos, my phone needs to be in wifi otherwise
I'd just use my unlimited to keep the load off my network and keep it on
Verizon.

Basically, I no longer seek out wifi in order to save data on my plan since
it's unlimited.

On Dec 4, 2017 10:45 AM, "Jay Weekley"  wrote:

> I have a (supposedly) grandfathered unlimited plan from Verizon and rarely
> connect to WiFi even though my home WiFi is faster than my phones data.
>
> Nate Burke wrote:
>
>> Since more Cell companies are switching to unlimited plans/streaming
>> included, has that changed if people will actually bother to connect mobile
>> devices to Wifi?  I may be shooting myself in the foot, (maybe I should
>> find some wood to knock on) but it seems like bandwidth usage has had a
>> noticeable drop since Black Friday.  Our BW trend this year has been
>> steadily increasing, but since mid November, consumption is down, most
>> notably in that overnight peaks are less.   So I'm curious that if
>> $standarduser switches to an "Unlimited data" plan, they don't even bother
>> to connect to WIFI.
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
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>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Does unlimited mobile data decrease bandwidth usage

[Jay Weekley]

I have a (supposedly) grandfathered unlimited plan from Verizon and 
rarely connect to WiFi even though my home WiFi is faster than my phones 
data.


Nate Burke wrote:
Since more Cell companies are switching to unlimited plans/streaming 
included, has that changed if people will actually bother to connect 
mobile devices to Wifi?  I may be shooting myself in the foot, (maybe 
I should find some wood to knock on) but it seems like bandwidth usage 
has had a noticeable drop since Black Friday.  Our BW trend this year 
has been steadily increasing, but since mid November, consumption is 
down, most notably in that overnight peaks are less.   So I'm curious 
that if $standarduser switches to an "Unlimited data" plan, they don't 
even bother to connect to WIFI.


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This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
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Re: [AFMUG] Tycon Injectors

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

The units I described are all 4 port units, except for the single port
nonmanaged gig injector which is coming as soon as we can get the stuff
together to put it on the web.  They are all specifically designed for
small sites.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Mark Frost  wrote:

> Nice, thanks for the info.
>
>
>
> Our biggest issue is that not all radios are in the on physical location –
> some sites may only have 1 or 2 units.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
> (List Account)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:45
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tycon Injectors
>
>
>
> The product you're looking for is the packetflux powerinjector plus sync.
>You'll need the external dc to dc converter.   You can jumper each port
> for different pinning and power source, so you can end up with native poe
> pinning for each radio type.
>
>
>
> Add a din rail mounting kit to din rail mount it.
>
>
>
> Add a SiteMonitor base unit, and you get remote power control.
>
>
>
> Add a syncbox junior and you can do sync over power for the 450, assuming
> it's an AP.
>
>
>
> If you're looking for something noncontrolled, I (PacketFlux) also have a
> 4 port 10/100 poe injector which is din rail mounted and inexpensive.
> There's also a single port and 4 port gigabit one coming like any day now
> (product is done, just have to get them on the website)
>
>
>
> Chuck also has surge suppressors you can din mount and use as a poe
> injector. Also jumperable.
>
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2017 8:28 AM, "Mark Frost"  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Long-time lurker.
>
>
>
> Is anyone able to assist with the make/model of Tycon POE Injectors that
> are required for the below make and model of radios? I’m having a hard time
> getting my head around the Tycon part numbers. UBNT doesn’t make it easy
> either the way they swap 24/48.
>
>
>
> My goal is to be able to come straight of a 48VDC rectifier/battery
> set-up. If the unit is 24V, ideally I’d like the 48-24 to be done by the
> Injector, but can run it though an isolated step-down if required.
>
>
>
> * Cambium 450
>
> * UBNT AirFiber24
>
> * UBNT Rocket 5AC PTP
>
> * UBNT AF-5X
>
> * UBNT R5AC-PRISM
>
>
>
> Is it true that some of the AirFiber24 Units are 48, and others 24?
>
>
>
> Not 100% on Tycon. Utopia is something that is DIN mountable, but feel I
> may be pushing it!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

[AFMUG] Does unlimited mobile data decrease bandwidth usage

[Nate Burke]

Since more Cell companies are switching to unlimited plans/streaming 
included, has that changed if people will actually bother to connect 
mobile devices to Wifi?  I may be shooting myself in the foot, (maybe I 
should find some wood to knock on) but it seems like bandwidth usage has 
had a noticeable drop since Black Friday.  Our BW trend this year has 
been steadily increasing, but since mid November, consumption is down, 
most notably in that overnight peaks are less.   So I'm curious that if 
$standarduser switches to an "Unlimited data" plan, they don't even 
bother to connect to WIFI.

Re: [AFMUG] Tycon Injectors

[Mathew Howard]

All AirFiber24's are 48v. Where there can be some confusion is the AF-5X -
almost all of them will run on either 24v or 48v, except for some very
early units, which are 24v only (you can tell by the MAC address).

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> For Tycon you want DCDC injectors.  They are isolated so you can go
> straight to the rectifier shelf.
>
> For the 450 you can do 100m by swapping blue/brown pairs.  Can't do gig.
> For the AF24 you need the TP-DCDC-4856G-VHP
> For the AF5x we use TP-DCDC-4848G-HP (You may not need HP and older ones
> were 24V only)
> For the other stuff you would use something like TP-DCDC-4824G
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> The product you're looking for is the packetflux powerinjector plus sync.
>>You'll need the external dc to dc converter.   You can jumper each port
>> for different pinning and power source, so you can end up with native poe
>> pinning for each radio type.
>>
>> Add a din rail mounting kit to din rail mount it.
>>
>> Add a SiteMonitor base unit, and you get remote power control.
>>
>> Add a syncbox junior and you can do sync over power for the 450, assuming
>> it's an AP.
>>
>> If you're looking for something noncontrolled, I (PacketFlux) also have a
>> 4 port 10/100 poe injector which is din rail mounted and inexpensive.
>> There's also a single port and 4 port gigabit one coming like any day now
>> (product is done, just have to get them on the website)
>>
>> Chuck also has surge suppressors you can din mount and use as a poe
>> injector. Also jumperable.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2017 8:28 AM, "Mark Frost"  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Long-time lurker.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anyone able to assist with the make/model of Tycon POE Injectors that
>> are required for the below make and model of radios? I’m having a hard time
>> getting my head around the Tycon part numbers. UBNT doesn’t make it easy
>> either the way they swap 24/48.
>>
>>
>>
>> My goal is to be able to come straight of a 48VDC rectifier/battery
>> set-up. If the unit is 24V, ideally I’d like the 48-24 to be done by the
>> Injector, but can run it though an isolated step-down if required.
>>
>>
>>
>> * Cambium 450
>>
>> * UBNT AirFiber24
>>
>> * UBNT Rocket 5AC PTP
>>
>> * UBNT AF-5X
>>
>> * UBNT R5AC-PRISM
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it true that some of the AirFiber24 Units are 48, and others 24?
>>
>>
>>
>> Not 100% on Tycon. Utopia is something that is DIN mountable, but feel I
>> may be pushing it!
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
> 
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
> 
>
> (410) 637-3707
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tycon Injectors

[Carl Peterson]

For Tycon you want DCDC injectors.  They are isolated so you can go
straight to the rectifier shelf.

For the 450 you can do 100m by swapping blue/brown pairs.  Can't do gig.
For the AF24 you need the TP-DCDC-4856G-VHP
For the AF5x we use TP-DCDC-4848G-HP (You may not need HP and older ones
were 24V only)
For the other stuff you would use something like TP-DCDC-4824G


On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> The product you're looking for is the packetflux powerinjector plus sync.
>You'll need the external dc to dc converter.   You can jumper each port
> for different pinning and power source, so you can end up with native poe
> pinning for each radio type.
>
> Add a din rail mounting kit to din rail mount it.
>
> Add a SiteMonitor base unit, and you get remote power control.
>
> Add a syncbox junior and you can do sync over power for the 450, assuming
> it's an AP.
>
> If you're looking for something noncontrolled, I (PacketFlux) also have a
> 4 port 10/100 poe injector which is din rail mounted and inexpensive.
> There's also a single port and 4 port gigabit one coming like any day now
> (product is done, just have to get them on the website)
>
> Chuck also has surge suppressors you can din mount and use as a poe
> injector. Also jumperable.
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2017 8:28 AM, "Mark Frost"  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Long-time lurker.
>
>
>
> Is anyone able to assist with the make/model of Tycon POE Injectors that
> are required for the below make and model of radios? I’m having a hard time
> getting my head around the Tycon part numbers. UBNT doesn’t make it easy
> either the way they swap 24/48.
>
>
>
> My goal is to be able to come straight of a 48VDC rectifier/battery
> set-up. If the unit is 24V, ideally I’d like the 48-24 to be done by the
> Injector, but can run it though an isolated step-down if required.
>
>
>
> * Cambium 450
>
> * UBNT AirFiber24
>
> * UBNT Rocket 5AC PTP
>
> * UBNT AF-5X
>
> * UBNT R5AC-PRISM
>
>
>
> Is it true that some of the AirFiber24 Units are 48, and others 24?
>
>
>
> Not 100% on Tycon. Utopia is something that is DIN mountable, but feel I
> may be pushing it!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] Tycon Injectors

[Mark Frost]

Nice, thanks for the info.

Our biggest issue is that not all radios are in the on physical location – some 
sites may only have 1 or 2 units.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:45
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tycon Injectors

The product you're looking for is the packetflux powerinjector plus sync.
You'll need the external dc to dc converter.   You can jumper each port for 
different pinning and power source, so you can end up with native poe pinning 
for each radio type.

Add a din rail mounting kit to din rail mount it.

Add a SiteMonitor base unit, and you get remote power control.

Add a syncbox junior and you can do sync over power for the 450, assuming it's 
an AP.

If you're looking for something noncontrolled, I (PacketFlux) also have a 4 
port 10/100 poe injector which is din rail mounted and inexpensive.  There's 
also a single port and 4 port gigabit one coming like any day now (product is 
done, just have to get them on the website)

Chuck also has surge suppressors you can din mount and use as a poe injector. 
Also jumperable.

On Dec 4, 2017 8:28 AM, "Mark Frost" 
> wrote:
Hi All,

Long-time lurker.

Is anyone able to assist with the make/model of Tycon POE Injectors that are 
required for the below make and model of radios? I’m having a hard time getting 
my head around the Tycon part numbers. UBNT doesn’t make it easy either the way 
they swap 24/48.

My goal is to be able to come straight of a 48VDC rectifier/battery set-up. If 
the unit is 24V, ideally I’d like the 48-24 to be done by the Injector, but can 
run it though an isolated step-down if required.

* Cambium 450
* UBNT AirFiber24
* UBNT Rocket 5AC PTP
* UBNT AF-5X
* UBNT R5AC-PRISM

Is it true that some of the AirFiber24 Units are 48, and others 24?

Not 100% on Tycon. Utopia is something that is DIN mountable, but feel I may be 
pushing it!

Cheers,
Mark

Re: [AFMUG] Tycon Injectors

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

The product you're looking for is the packetflux powerinjector plus sync.
 You'll need the external dc to dc converter.   You can jumper each port
for different pinning and power source, so you can end up with native poe
pinning for each radio type.

Add a din rail mounting kit to din rail mount it.

Add a SiteMonitor base unit, and you get remote power control.

Add a syncbox junior and you can do sync over power for the 450, assuming
it's an AP.

If you're looking for something noncontrolled, I (PacketFlux) also have a 4
port 10/100 poe injector which is din rail mounted and inexpensive.
There's also a single port and 4 port gigabit one coming like any day now
(product is done, just have to get them on the website)

Chuck also has surge suppressors you can din mount and use as a poe
injector. Also jumperable.

On Dec 4, 2017 8:28 AM, "Mark Frost"  wrote:

Hi All,



Long-time lurker.



Is anyone able to assist with the make/model of Tycon POE Injectors that
are required for the below make and model of radios? I’m having a hard time
getting my head around the Tycon part numbers. UBNT doesn’t make it easy
either the way they swap 24/48.



My goal is to be able to come straight of a 48VDC rectifier/battery set-up.
If the unit is 24V, ideally I’d like the 48-24 to be done by the Injector,
but can run it though an isolated step-down if required.



* Cambium 450

* UBNT AirFiber24

* UBNT Rocket 5AC PTP

* UBNT AF-5X

* UBNT R5AC-PRISM



Is it true that some of the AirFiber24 Units are 48, and others 24?



Not 100% on Tycon. Utopia is something that is DIN mountable, but feel I
may be pushing it!



Cheers,

Mark

Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?

[Ben Royer]

Try once more!

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Steve D 
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 6:14 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?

Hey Ben, document didn't make it through to list.  I like the pylon holder and 
see a few of that design now.  Nice and simple, a coworker had suggested some 
upside down hoop thing for quite a bit more each but I think it was for large 
trucks.  I think this thread has given me enough leads to make something up 
though.  Cheers, 

-Steve D

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Ben Royer  wrote:

  Steve,

  I ended up ordering these:

  http://a.co/gtzGRRV

  Work pretty good.  Just have the guys throw a bungee on it too.

  I just typed something simple up for now, but still looking to make something 
more involved.  Attached is my basic document.

  Thank you,
  Ben Royer, Operations Manager
  Royell Communications, Inc.
  217-965-3699 www.royell.net

  From: Steve D 
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:09 PM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?

  Any further luck on finding this kind of info?  Our company is looking to 
implement the same thing.   

  Anyone got a source for a good cone holder for vehicles too?  (Cheap, simple.)

  -Steve D

  On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Ben Royer  wrote:

Good info, thanks again.  I’ve been trying to find other companies’ data, 
but even with the abundance that is the interwebs, I’ve had little luck so far. 
 I am however settling in on something along these lines:

oCones must be placed in front and behind vehicle, greater than 5’ 
away, no further than 1’ x MPH of roadway, or a distance deemed necessary for 
environment and driving conditions.

oCones must be placed in front and behind vehicle, 3’-10’ away, when 
working in non-roadway areas.

oClass II Hi-Vis Apparel must be worn when working within 15’ of any 
roadway with traffic speeds of 1-40MPH

oClass III Hi-Vis Apparel must be worn when working within 15’ of any 
roadway with traffic speeds of 40+MPH


Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:27 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?

No, the cone is purely to force them to walk behind the vehicle when 
leaving so they don’t squish the customer’s kids.  

From: Ben Royer 
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?

Thanks,  Do you specify to the employee the distance of cone?  IE: 1’*MPH 
of roadway? or 10’ or anything like that?

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?

Not sure I have written it down.  If in a public ROW, hard hats and orange 
vests must be worn.
If in a UDOT ROW then amber blinky light on top must be used.

Cones behind the truck at every stop.  

From: Ben Royer 
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?

Does anyone have pre-drafted Safety Policies?  We have a tower climbing 
policy and workplace policy, but I’m looking to implement a ‘traffic’ safety 
one.  Something along the lines of when and where to use Hi-Vis clothing, 
cones, etc.  Anyone have an example you’d share of anything like this?

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] RAID controller eats disks?

[Adam Moffett]

Weird.
Dell OpenManage does the monitoring and emails me an alert.  In this 
case the disk seems to function fine, so I wonder if OpenManage is just 
trigger happy with the failure prediction.




-- Original Message --
From: "Nate Burke" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 12/4/2017 9:59:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RAID controller eats disks?

I'm more impressed that you're actually getting a report predicting 
that the drive is failing.  I have never ever had a raid controller 
report a disk may be failing.  They just go straight from working to 
failed.  Usually failing into a high latency state, where they still 
work, just really really slowly, so the raid doesn't take it offline.


On 12/4/2017 8:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I've got a somewhat old Dell Poweredge with a PERC H700 RAID 
controller.


About a year ago SMART predicted a failure on disk 4, so I replaced 
it.  A few weeks ago SMART predicted a failure on disk 4, so I 
replaced it. Today SMART predicts a failure on disk 4.


On the second incident I have no doubts, because the disk made audible 
noises.  I'm just curious why it's always disk 4.  Can the controller 
conceivably do something that harms the disk?  Just a statistical 
anomaly?


It's a RAID 1+0 by the way, so there should be a nearly identical 
workload on one of the other disks.

[AFMUG] Tycon Injectors

[Mark Frost]

Hi All,

Long-time lurker.

Is anyone able to assist with the make/model of Tycon POE Injectors that are 
required for the below make and model of radios? I'm having a hard time getting 
my head around the Tycon part numbers. UBNT doesn't make it easy either the way 
they swap 24/48.

My goal is to be able to come straight of a 48VDC rectifier/battery set-up. If 
the unit is 24V, ideally I'd like the 48-24 to be done by the Injector, but can 
run it though an isolated step-down if required.

* Cambium 450
* UBNT AirFiber24
* UBNT Rocket 5AC PTP
* UBNT AF-5X
* UBNT R5AC-PRISM

Is it true that some of the AirFiber24 Units are 48, and others 24?

Not 100% on Tycon. Utopia is something that is DIN mountable, but feel I may be 
pushing it!

Cheers,
Mark

Re: [AFMUG] Residential router recommendation.

[Lewis Bergman]

I would love to find one that allows me to prioritize VoIP. None of the
ones I have seen allow you to do anything except some kind of check box to
prioritize everything it thinks is some kind of real time protocol. I am
sure gaming and streaming video is included in those.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 2:27 AM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> I haven't had any issues with the higher end Netgears. Most people don't
> use 90% of the feature set though.
>
> On Sunday, December 3, 2017, Paul Stewart  wrote:
>
>> Personally use an Asus as my default router at home when I’m not playing
>> with Cisco/Juniper/Fortigate “non-home” routers …
>>
>> I have the RT-AC87R and an impressed …. Never lets me down and handles
>> whatever I throw at it … the wireless is pretty good too IMHO
>>
>> Netgear Nighthawk – bought one before the Asus and returned it within a
>> few days … their tech support is absolutely horrible to deal with … 4 hours
>> waiting on hold to be told that my router is “incompatible with Canadian
>> Internet services” …. ROFL … issue ended up being poorly written code after
>> pushing the issues for a couple of hours and finding out the firmware would
>> be released (to solve the problem which was IPv6 related) – that release
>> was slated for sometime in the next year ;(
>>
>> -p
>>
>> On 2017-12-02, 12:03 PM, "Af on behalf of Mitch Koep" <
>> af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of af...@abwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>> We also recommend Asus now as the netgear have become undependable
>>
>> The Asus have been rock solid
>>
>> Mitch
>>
>>
>> On 12/2/2017 10:49 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>> > My main recommendations now are Asus and Netgear Nighthawk (NOT
>> regular Netgear, those suck).
>> >
>> > I don't provide routers to our customers, so I'm thinking we now
>> have hundreds of either brand/line of these routers and they seem to be the
>> least failure prone.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 9:43 AM
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] Residential router recommendation.
>> >
>> > I have a friend that is looking for a new router from a big box
>> store
>> > like Best Buy, Walmart or Officemax.   Since I've been using
>> Mikrotiks
>> > and the occasional Readynet and TPlink for the past several years I
>> have no idea what to tell them to get.  It's not for a customer and I will
>> hopefully have nothing to do with this router.  If you were me what would
>> you tell them to get?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible Shielded Outdoor Cat-5

[Nate Burke]

How flexible?  We use the Belden 7919A, I can get it into a <6" loop 
without a problem.


On 12/4/2017 8:49 AM, Matt wrote:

Does anyone know of an shielded outdoor cat5e cable that is fairly flexible?

Re: [AFMUG] RAID controller eats disks?

[Nate Burke]

I'm more impressed that you're actually getting a report predicting that 
the drive is failing.  I have never ever had a raid controller report a 
disk may be failing.  They just go straight from working to failed.  
Usually failing into a high latency state, where they still work, just 
really really slowly, so the raid doesn't take it offline.


On 12/4/2017 8:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I've got a somewhat old Dell Poweredge with a PERC H700 RAID controller.

About a year ago SMART predicted a failure on disk 4, so I replaced 
it.  A few weeks ago SMART predicted a failure on disk 4, so I 
replaced it. Today SMART predicts a failure on disk 4.


On the second incident I have no doubts, because the disk made audible 
noises.  I'm just curious why it's always disk 4.  Can the controller 
conceivably do something that harms the disk?  Just a statistical anomaly?


It's a RAID 1+0 by the way, so there should be a nearly identical 
workload on one of the other disks.

[AFMUG] RAID controller eats disks?

[Adam Moffett]

I've got a somewhat old Dell Poweredge with a PERC H700 RAID controller.

About a year ago SMART predicted a failure on disk 4, so I replaced it.  
A few weeks ago SMART predicted a failure on disk 4, so I replaced it. 
Today SMART predicts a failure on disk 4.


On the second incident I have no doubts, because the disk made audible 
noises.  I'm just curious why it's always disk 4.  Can the controller 
conceivably do something that harms the disk?  Just a statistical 
anomaly?


It's a RAID 1+0 by the way, so there should be a nearly identical 
workload on one of the other disks.

[AFMUG] Flexible Shielded Outdoor Cat-5

[Matt]

Does anyone know of an shielded outdoor cat5e cable that is fairly flexible?

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Question

[Craig House]

My 45g is 10’ from The bottom of one section to the bottom of the section below 
it.  So you get a full 10 feet out of each section. The 25g sections are 10 
feet including the 4 inches that fits inside the other section so you lose 4 
inches per section of Tower
The stock I have is not rohn but I believe is identical to it and I have used 
it to stack on top of old Rohn sections

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 08:19, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> Ya know I never measured one.  Is it actually 10' from bolt hole to bolt 
> hole? 
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Craig House" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 12/3/2017 2:40:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Question
> 
>> That’s correct. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 13:26,   wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find drawings showing 25G and 45G tower sections being 10’ end to end.  
>>> But that would cause the tower to lose a few inches due to the telescoping 
>>> at each junction between sections.  So, I am guessing it is 10’ plus 
>>> whatever length telescopes when mating the sections.  Line 4”??
>>>  
>>>  

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Question

[Adam Moffett]

Ya know I never measured one.  Is it actually 10' from bolt hole to bolt 
hole?



-- Original Message --
From: "Craig House" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 12/3/2017 2:40:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Question


That’s correct.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2017, at 13:26,   wrote:

I find drawings showing 25G and 45G tower sections being 10’ end to 
end.  But that would cause the tower to lose a few inches due to the 
telescoping at each junction between sections.  So, I am guessing it 
is 10’ plus whatever length telescopes when mating the sections.  Line 
4”??

Re: [AFMUG] Residential router recommendation.

[Jason McKemie]

I haven't had any issues with the higher end Netgears. Most people don't
use 90% of the feature set though.

On Sunday, December 3, 2017, Paul Stewart  wrote:

> Personally use an Asus as my default router at home when I’m not playing
> with Cisco/Juniper/Fortigate “non-home” routers …
>
> I have the RT-AC87R and an impressed …. Never lets me down and handles
> whatever I throw at it … the wireless is pretty good too IMHO
>
> Netgear Nighthawk – bought one before the Asus and returned it within a
> few days … their tech support is absolutely horrible to deal with … 4 hours
> waiting on hold to be told that my router is “incompatible with Canadian
> Internet services” …. ROFL … issue ended up being poorly written code after
> pushing the issues for a couple of hours and finding out the firmware would
> be released (to solve the problem which was IPv6 related) – that release
> was slated for sometime in the next year ;(
>
> -p
>
> On 2017-12-02, 12:03 PM, "Af on behalf of Mitch Koep" <
> af-boun...@afmug.com  on behalf of af...@abwisp.com
> > wrote:
>
> We also recommend Asus now as the netgear have become undependable
>
> The Asus have been rock solid
>
> Mitch
>
>
> On 12/2/2017 10:49 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
> > My main recommendations now are Asus and Netgear Nighthawk (NOT
> regular Netgear, those suck).
> >
> > I don't provide routers to our customers, so I'm thinking we now
> have hundreds of either brand/line of these routers and they seem to be the
> least failure prone.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of
> Jay Weekley
> > Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 9:43 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com 
> > Subject: [AFMUG] Residential router recommendation.
> >
> > I have a friend that is looking for a new router from a big box store
> > like Best Buy, Walmart or Officemax.   Since I've been using
> Mikrotiks
> > and the occasional Readynet and TPlink for the past several years I
> have no idea what to tell them to get.  It's not for a customer and I will
> hopefully have nothing to do with this router.  If you were me what would
> you tell them to get?
>
>
>
>
>