Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Jaime Solorza]

When you mention meters , heads explode!!!  But no biggie we will soon all
speak Russian and do everything in meterszaz.  Too easy

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 20, 2018 7:43 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> And we've got one running at almost 1400 meters (4500 feet, for the
> imperialists)... that does drop when it rains hard though, and you're not
> going to get that kind of distance to a sector/omni, but it should still be
> good for a lot more than 700 feet.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> That is incorrect. Mine's been going over 400 days without missing a beat
>> at 700 meters.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:26:01 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>> I thought this stuff was only functionally effective up to 700 feet
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2018 6:44 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>
>>> FYI  ... -40C = -40F
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 2/20/2018 1:48 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:
>>>
 It's tested to -40C.  If that makes you feel better.  :-)

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Support

[Adam Moffett]

I've almost never needed them.
When I did call support one time, I had the same complaint as you.  I 
was advised by someone higher up the chain to open the ticket online.  
That's essentially what the phone answerer is doing, but they're 
transcribing your words and may be mangling them.  Fill out the online 
ticket request and you can describe the issue in your own words and get 
some of the dumb questions out of the way immediately.




-- Original Message --
From: "Matt Hoppes" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/20/2018 7:31:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Support

Also. How do I get American support that can solve my issue while on 
the phone?  The few times I’ve called in someone takes my info down and 
just opens a ticket.


On Feb 20, 2018, at 19:26, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:


Why does Cambium Support suck so bad?

Why do they not have access to my cnMaestro account?

Every time I open a ticket I’m asked 10 questions that could all be 
answered if the tech had access to my cnMaestro cloud account.


What firmware version?  How is it configured? Etc etc.

Instead of getting solutions when I open a ticket I get question after 
question back.


I’ve had nothing but issues since embarking on my Cambium adventures a 
month ago.


Latest issue is a cnPilot device that was connected and working fine 
for several weeks, now it shows connected and stats but won’t let me 
change the SSID from the cloud.

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Live & Learn ! ... 

Mythbusters ! 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 8:26:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

> I thought this stuff was only functionally effective up to 700 feet

> On Feb 20, 2018 6:44 PM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:

>> FYI ... -40C = -40F

>> bp
>> 

>> On 2/20/2018 1:48 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:

>>> It's tested to -40C. If that makes you feel better. :-)

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Mathew Howard]

And we've got one running at almost 1400 meters (4500 feet, for the
imperialists)... that does drop when it rains hard though, and you're not
going to get that kind of distance to a sector/omni, but it should still be
good for a lot more than 700 feet.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> That is incorrect. Mine's been going over 400 days without missing a beat
> at 700 meters.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:26:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
> I thought this stuff was only functionally effective up to 700 feet
>
> On Feb 20, 2018 6:44 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> FYI  ... -40C = -40F
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 2/20/2018 1:48 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:
>>
>>> It's tested to -40C.  If that makes you feel better.  :-)
>>>
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] Rackinjector "Cambium Style" sync over power cards available in quantity.

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

We've been shipping the RackInjector cards which do the new "Cambium Style"
sync over power for a few weeks now.  This is the style of sync over power
which is required by the 450m and can be used by the 450i.

We've been selling them in stealth mode since we were hand-placing more
than a few components on each injector card.  This was a time consuming
process and we really didn't want a surge of orders until this was
rectified.  Last week the additional feeders for our Pick and Place machine
arrived and now everything is being machine-placed, which is much faster.
So I guess it's time to be a bit more vocal about the availability of these.

In other words, if you've been waiting for me to announce that these are
available on the list, your wait is over.  Like everything else, they're
available on the store, either as a option during a RackInjector purchase,
or individually to add to an existing rackinjector.

-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Lewis Bergman]

I tried the same thing. I thought nobody would pay that much. I found they
would happily do it. I kept raising it. They finally started fleeing when i
required $20 a month paid annually.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 7:22 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> We went to rackspace, never turned back, we are ona na inexpensivish rate
> and we dont pimp the isp email. Though maybe we should, we set it at 5
> bucks a box per month with required annual payment if you want to keep your
> email after leaving our service. Figured that would get them to go away,
> but a suprising number keep it. Its pure cash, like people who still have
> dialup customers that churn cash with zero support each month.
>
> On Feb 20, 2018 5:32 PM, "Layne Sisk"  wrote:
>
>> We have lots of ISPs that outsource email hosting to us, but we have a
>> grandfathered deal and use BlueTie to provide the service.  We used to run
>> our own servers and found that we could provide better service at a lower
>> cost (and wa less headaches).
>>
>> Layne Sisk
>> ServerPlus
>> 801.426.8283, ext 102
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 9:35 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Email Server
>>
>> For those of you still providing your users with an email account what
>> platforms are you using?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Mike Hammett]

That is incorrect. Mine's been going over 400 days without missing a beat at 
700 meters. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Steve Jones"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:26:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector 


I thought this stuff was only functionally effective up to 700 feet 


On Feb 20, 2018 6:44 PM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 


FYI ... -40C = -40F 

bp 
 

On 2/20/2018 1:48 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: 


It's tested to -40C. If that makes you feel better. :-) 

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Steve Jones]

I thought this stuff was only functionally effective up to 700 feet

On Feb 20, 2018 6:44 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> FYI  ... -40C = -40F
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/20/2018 1:48 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:
>
>> It's tested to -40C.  If that makes you feel better.  :-)
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Support

[Steve Jones]

They just have me add them and handle cnmaestro, i was actually suprised
there was any support on a free product.

On Feb 20, 2018 6:37 PM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:

> On 2/20/18 4:31 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
>> Also. How do I get American support that can solve my issue while on the
>> phone?  The few times I’ve called in someone takes my info down and just
>> opens a ticket.
>>
>
>
> I don't think you can get that without one of those support plans they
> rolled out a while back.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Steve Jones]

We went to rackspace, never turned back, we are ona na inexpensivish rate
and we dont pimp the isp email. Though maybe we should, we set it at 5
bucks a box per month with required annual payment if you want to keep your
email after leaving our service. Figured that would get them to go away,
but a suprising number keep it. Its pure cash, like people who still have
dialup customers that churn cash with zero support each month.

On Feb 20, 2018 5:32 PM, "Layne Sisk"  wrote:

> We have lots of ISPs that outsource email hosting to us, but we have a
> grandfathered deal and use BlueTie to provide the service.  We used to run
> our own servers and found that we could provide better service at a lower
> cost (and wa less headaches).
>
> Layne Sisk
> ServerPlus
> 801.426.8283, ext 102
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 9:35 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Email Server
>
> For those of you still providing your users with an email account what
> platforms are you using?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Steve Jones]

I dont knwo whos the sock and whos the puppet

On Feb 20, 2018 5:24 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

> Cause he's gotta be part man-in-the-moon
>
> On 02/20/2018 02:02 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
>> Steve used to be named Tony Clifton until he went into the witness
>> protection program.
>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:22 PM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
>> It's going too be entertaining  when we figure out that Steve is Chuck's
>> second personality.  After all we've never met Steve... and now this
>> revelation about the meds.
>> On Feb 20, 2018 2:06 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> Ya gots to ask yerself:  “self, think Chuck took his meds today”?
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:58 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
>> Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> They outsourced all repair work to Trango.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday,
>> February 20, 2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG]
>> Cambium repair times?
>> How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I
>> have an 820S that failed under warranty waiting at their repair
>> facility since December 8th with no progress since then other
>> than it was received. I've never had anything repaired by them
>> before.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Bill Prince]

FYI  ... -40C = -40F

bp


On 2/20/2018 1:48 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:

It's tested to -40C.  If that makes you feel better.  :-)

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Support

[Seth Mattinen]

On 2/20/18 4:31 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Also. How do I get American support that can solve my issue while on the phone? 
 The few times I’ve called in someone takes my info down and just opens a 
ticket.



I don't think you can get that without one of those support plans they 
rolled out a while back.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Support

[Matt Hoppes]

Also. How do I get American support that can solve my issue while on the phone? 
 The few times I’ve called in someone takes my info down and just opens a 
ticket. 

> On Feb 20, 2018, at 19:26, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> Why does Cambium Support suck so bad?
> 
> Why do they not have access to my cnMaestro account?
> 
> Every time I open a ticket I’m asked 10 questions that could all be answered 
> if the tech had access to my cnMaestro cloud account. 
> 
> What firmware version?  How is it configured? Etc etc. 
> 
> Instead of getting solutions when I open a ticket I get question after 
> question back. 
> 
> I’ve had nothing but issues since embarking on my Cambium adventures a month 
> ago. 
> 
> Latest issue is a cnPilot device that was connected and working fine for 
> several weeks, now it shows connected and stats but won’t let me change the 
> SSID from the cloud.

[AFMUG] Cambium Support

[Matt Hoppes]

Why does Cambium Support suck so bad?

Why do they not have access to my cnMaestro account?

Every time I open a ticket I’m asked 10 questions that could all be answered if 
the tech had access to my cnMaestro cloud account. 

What firmware version?  How is it configured? Etc etc. 

Instead of getting solutions when I open a ticket I get question after question 
back. 

I’ve had nothing but issues since embarking on my Cambium adventures a month 
ago. 

Latest issue is a cnPilot device that was connected and working fine for 
several weeks, now it shows connected and stats but won’t let me change the 
SSID from the cloud. 

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Gino A. Villarini]

Btw Hal, do the units have electrical downtilt?

From: Af > on behalf of 
Harold Bledsoe >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

Imperialist!




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:51 PM > wrote:
Yes, but is it tested to the more rigorous –40F?

From: Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
It's tested to -40C.  If that makes you feel better.  :-)

-Hal

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:10 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:
Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to operate in 
cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option for us in 
why-are-you-living-there central Canada.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?


Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mathew Howard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
An: af 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually cheaper 
than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360 degrees, and 
there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a bit pricey 
though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically, probably around $500 
for most customers.
I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good enough 
that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service techs lives 
close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to work at 60ghz, 
so that should be a good test.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  wrote:
Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?

From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three 60ghz 
radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't imagine 
actually using that.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual freq 
with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up the 60 
GHz and hope for the best?

From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector

From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

What's the beamwidth on this?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:




Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Layne Sisk]

We have lots of ISPs that outsource email hosting to us, but we have a 
grandfathered deal and use BlueTie to provide the service.  We used to run our 
own servers and found that we could provide better service at a lower cost (and 
wa less headaches).  

Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102




   

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 9:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Email Server

For those of you still providing your users with an email account what 
platforms are you using?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Robert Andrews]

Cause he's gotta be part man-in-the-moon

On 02/20/2018 02:02 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Steve used to be named Tony Clifton until he went into the witness 
protection program.

*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:22 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
It's going too be entertaining  when we figure out that Steve is Chuck's 
second personality.  After all we've never met Steve... and now this 
revelation about the meds.

On Feb 20, 2018 2:06 PM,  wrote:

Ya gots to ask yerself:  “self, think Chuck took his meds today”?
*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:58 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:

They outsourced all repair work to Trango.

-Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday,
February 20, 2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG]
Cambium repair times?
How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I
have an 820S that failed under warranty waiting at their repair
facility since December 8th with no progress since then other
than it was received. I've never had anything repaired by them
before.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

hah, i'd get cold!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Colin Stanners 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 4:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available


  Do you ship to Canada?  :-)



  On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:26 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 
license.

We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you 
need a 3.65 license, go bid on this.

Good luck!



https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Josh Reynolds]

I get some hilarious imagery off that.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:27 PM,   wrote:
> One of us is the sock puppet of the other.
>
> From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:22 PM
> To: af
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
>
> It's going too be entertaining  when we figure out that Steve is Chuck's
> second personality.  After all we've never met Steve... and now this
> revelation about the meds.
>
> On Feb 20, 2018 2:06 PM,  wrote:
>
> Ya gots to ask yerself:  “self, think Chuck took his meds today”?
>
> From: Colin Stanners
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:58 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
>
> Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> They outsourced all repair work to Trango.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, February 20,
>> 2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
>> How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S
>> that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December
>> 8th with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had
>> anything repaired by them before.
>>
>> ~Seth
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Mathew Howard]

How many personalities do you have... ?

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:02 PM,  wrote:

> Steve used to be named Tony Clifton until he went into the witness
> protection program.
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:22 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
>
> It's going too be entertaining  when we figure out that Steve is Chuck's
> second personality.  After all we've never met Steve... and now this
> revelation about the meds.
>
> On Feb 20, 2018 2:06 PM,  wrote:
>
> Ya gots to ask yerself:  “self, think Chuck took his meds today”?
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:58 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
>
> Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:
>
>> They outsourced all repair work to Trango.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, February
>> 20, 2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
>> How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S
>> that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December
>> 8th with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had
>> anything repaired by them before.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available

[Colin Stanners]

Do you ship to Canada?  :-)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:26 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
>
> As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65
> license.
>
> We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you
> need a 3.65 license, go bid on this.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-
> 65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[chuck]

Steve used to be named Tony Clifton until he went into the witness protection 
program.

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:22 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

It's going too be entertaining  when we figure out that Steve is Chuck's second 
personality.  After all we've never met Steve... and now this revelation about 
the meds.


On Feb 20, 2018 2:06 PM,  wrote:

  Ya gots to ask yerself:  “self, think Chuck took his meds today”?

  From: Colin Stanners 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:58 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

  Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.


  On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:

They outsourced all repair work to Trango.

-Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 
2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times? 

How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S 
that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December 8th 
with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had anything 
repaired by them before.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

until mid 2020

  - Original Message - 
  From: TJ Trout 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available


  Aren't they only good for a few more months?


  On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:26 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 
license.

We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you 
need a 3.65 license, go bid on this.

Good luck!



https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Seems to be a high demand on WISP TALK on facebook ; just wanted to post 
everywhere someone might be interested

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available


  Two more years... and there's no way to legally use 3.65ghz without one at 
present.



  On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:40 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

Aren't they only good for a few more months?


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:26 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


  As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 
license.

  We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If 
you need a 3.65 license, go bid on this.

  Good luck!


  
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Harold Bledsoe]

Imperialist!

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:51 PM  wrote:

> Yes, but is it tested to the more rigorous –40F?
>
> *From:* Harold Bledsoe
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:48 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
> It's tested to -40C.  If that makes you feel better.  :-)
>
> -Hal
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:10 PM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to
>> operate in cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option
>> for us in why-are-you-living-there central Canada.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>>
>>> Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Mathew Howard
>>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
>>> *An:* af 
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually
>>> cheaper than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360
>>> degrees, and there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a
>>> bit pricey though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically,
>>> probably around $500 for most customers.
>>>
>>> I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good
>>> enough that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service
>>> techs lives close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to
>>> work at 60ghz, so that should be a good test.
>>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>> Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
>>> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
>>> imagine actually using that.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a
>>> dual freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you
>>> put up the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> [image: image001.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> [image: image001.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Faisal Imtiaz]

nice one Chuck ! :) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 4:51:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

> Yes, but is it tested to the more rigorous –40F?
> From: Harold Bledsoe
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:48 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
> It's tested to -40C. If that makes you feel better. :-)
> -Hal

> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:10 PM Colin Stanners < cstann...@gmail.com > wrote:

>> Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to operate in
>> cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option for us in
>> why-are-you-living-there central Canada.

>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt < s...@genias.net > wrote:

>>> Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?

>>> Von: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von Mathew Howard
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
>>> An: af < af@afmug.com >
>>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

>>> Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually 
>>> cheaper
>>> than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360 degrees, and
>>> there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a bit pricey
>>> though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically, probably around 
>>> $500
>>> for most customers.

>>> I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good enough
>>> that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service techs lives
>>> close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to work at 
>>> 60ghz,
>>> so that should be a good test.

>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM, < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

 Nice. How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?

 From: Mathew Howard

 Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM

 To: af

 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three 
 60ghz
 radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't 
 imagine
 actually using that.

 On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM, < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual 
> freq
> with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up the 
> 60
> GHz and hope for the best?

> From: Gino A. Villarini

> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM

> To: af@afmug.com

> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector

> From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com >
> Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
> To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

> What's the beamwidth on this?

> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > 
> wrote:
>> Gino A. Villarini

>> President

>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

> Gino A. Villarini

> President

> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[chuck]

Yes, but is it tested to the more rigorous –40F?

From: Harold Bledsoe 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

It's tested to -40C.  If that makes you feel better.  :-) 

-Hal


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:10 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

  Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to operate in 
cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option for us in 
why-are-you-living-there central Canada.


  On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mathew Howard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
An: af 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector



Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually 
cheaper than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360 
degrees, and there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a bit 
pricey though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically, probably 
around $500 for most customers.

I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good 
enough that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service techs 
lives close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to work at 
60ghz, so that should be a good test.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  wrote:

  Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?



  From: Mathew Howard 

  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM

  To: af 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector



  It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three 
60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't 
imagine actually using that.



  On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:

Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a 
dual freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up 
the 60 GHz and hope for the best?



From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector



2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector 



From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector



What's the beamwidth on this?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini  
wrote:





Gino A. Villarini
   
President
   
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
   


   


  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President
 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
 


 

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Harold Bledsoe]

It's tested to -40C.  If that makes you feel better.  :-)

-Hal

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:10 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to operate
> in cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option for us
> in why-are-you-living-there central Canada.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>
>> Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Mathew Howard
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
>> *An:* af 
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>>
>>
>> Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually
>> cheaper than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360
>> degrees, and there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a
>> bit pricey though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically,
>> probably around $500 for most customers.
>>
>> I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good
>> enough that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service
>> techs lives close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to
>> work at 60ghz, so that should be a good test.
>>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  wrote:
>>
> Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM
>>
>> *To:* af
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>>
>>
>> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
>> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
>> imagine actually using that.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual
>> freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up
>> the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>>
>>
>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>
>> President
>>
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> [image: image001.png]
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>
>> President
>>
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> [image: image001.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Dan Parrish]

postfix, dovecot, roundcube. GO HARD OR GO HOME

--dan



On 2/20/2018 10:34 AM, Matt wrote:
> For those of you still providing your users with an email account what
> platforms are you using?

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available

[Mathew Howard]

Two more years... and there's no way to legally use 3.65ghz without one at
present.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:40 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

> Aren't they only good for a few more months?
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:26 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65
>> license.
>>
>> We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If
>> you need a 3.65 license, go bid on this.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-
>> 3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Dan Parrish]

Hey you mentioned magicmail twice in that sentence.

--dan



MailEnable for one system, MagicMail for another , and yes, we still have a 
qmail/squirrelmail system running.

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Dan Parrish]

That's probably going to go away sooner or later. They've been progressively 
announcing discontinuing that for more and more customers, in some cases not 
migrating them to new services. Just have a plan, all I'm saying.

--dan



On 2/20/2018 12:47 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
Gmail for your domain.  But we are a grandfathered beta user.  I think you have 
to pay for it nowadays.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 8:34 AM Matt 
> wrote:
For those of you still providing your users with an email account what
platforms are you using?

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available

[TJ Trout]

Aren't they only good for a few more months?

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:26 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
>
> As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65
> license.
>
> We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you
> need a 3.65 license, go bid on this.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-
> 65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[chuck]

One of us is the sock puppet of the other.  

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:22 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

It's going too be entertaining  when we figure out that Steve is Chuck's second 
personality.  After all we've never met Steve... and now this revelation about 
the meds.


On Feb 20, 2018 2:06 PM,  wrote:

  Ya gots to ask yerself:  “self, think Chuck took his meds today”?

  From: Colin Stanners 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:58 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

  Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.


  On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:

They outsourced all repair work to Trango.

-Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 
2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times? 

How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S 
that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December 8th 
with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had anything 
repaired by them before.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

It's going too be entertaining  when we figure out that Steve is Chuck's
second personality.  After all we've never met Steve... and now this
revelation about the meds.

On Feb 20, 2018 2:06 PM,  wrote:

Ya gots to ask yerself:  “self, think Chuck took his meds today”?

*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:58 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:

> They outsourced all repair work to Trango.
>
> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, February 20,
> 2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
> How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S
> that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December
> 8th with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had
> anything repaired by them before.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Mathew Howard]

It's gotten close to that a couple times this year here (Wisconsin), but
not for long enough that I would worry about equipment. That sounds like an
unpleasant place to live :)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> -22 F? My 2 years in Alaska were warmer than that! :)
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to
>> operate in cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option
>> for us in why-are-you-living-there central Canada.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>>
>>> Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Mathew Howard
>>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
>>> *An:* af 
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually
>>> cheaper than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360
>>> degrees, and there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a
>>> bit pricey though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically,
>>> probably around $500 for most customers.
>>>
>>> I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good
>>> enough that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service
>>> techs lives close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to
>>> work at 60ghz, so that should be a good test.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
>>> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
>>> imagine actually using that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a
>>> dual freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you
>>> put up the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[chuck]

Ya gots to ask yerself:  “self, think Chuck took his meds today”?

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:

  They outsourced all repair work to Trango.

  -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 
2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times? 

  How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S 
that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December 8th 
with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had anything 
repaired by them before.

  ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Colin Stanners]

Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:

> They outsourced all repair work to Trango.
>
> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, February 20,
> 2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
> How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S
> that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December
> 8th with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had
> anything repaired by them before.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Colin Stanners]

I suspect that the 820S would be fixed at Ceragon's repair facility, so it
may not be related to other original-Cambium product repairs (which usually
take about a week IIRC).

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S
> that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December
> 8th with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had
> anything repaired by them before.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[chuck]

They outsourced all repair work to Trango.

-Original Message- 
From: Seth Mattinen 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:42 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times? 

How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 
820S that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since 
December 8th with no progress since then other than it was received. 
I've never had anything repaired by them before.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Josh Reynolds]

-22 F? My 2 years in Alaska were warmer than that! :)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to operate
> in cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option for us
> in why-are-you-living-there central Canada.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>
>> Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Mathew Howard
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
>> *An:* af 
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>>
>>
>> Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually
>> cheaper than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360
>> degrees, and there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a
>> bit pricey though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically,
>> probably around $500 for most customers.
>>
>> I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good
>> enough that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service
>> techs lives close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to
>> work at 60ghz, so that should be a good test.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM
>>
>> *To:* af
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>>
>>
>> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
>> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
>> imagine actually using that.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual
>> freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up
>> the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>>
>>
>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>
>> President
>>
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>
>> President
>>
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Seth Mattinen]

How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 
820S that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since 
December 8th with no progress since then other than it was received. 
I've never had anything repaired by them before.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Stefan Englhardt]

Realy hard conditions. Why are you living there 

 

Guess you have to select equipment very carefuly. Dont want to climb even below 
0.

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Colin Stanners
Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 21:10
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to operate in 
cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option for us in 
why-are-you-living-there central Canada.

 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt  > wrote:

Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] Im Auftrag 
von Mathew Howard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
An: af  >
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually cheaper 
than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360 degrees, and 
there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a bit pricey 
though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically, probably around $500 
for most customers.

I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good enough 
that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service techs lives 
close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to work at 60ghz, 
so that should be a good test.

 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  > 
wrote:

Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?

 

From: Mathew Howard 

Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three 60ghz 
radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't imagine 
actually using that.

 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  > 
wrote:

Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual freq 
with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up the 60 
GHz and hope for the best?

 

From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector 

 

From: Af  > on behalf of 
Jason McKemie  >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com  "  >
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com  "  >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

What's the beamwidth on this?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini  > wrote:

 


 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968




 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Colin Stanners]

Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to operate
in cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option for us
in why-are-you-living-there central Canada.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Mathew Howard
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
> *An:* af 
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
>
>
> Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually
> cheaper than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360
> degrees, and there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a
> bit pricey though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically,
> probably around $500 for most customers.
>
> I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good
> enough that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service
> techs lives close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to
> work at 60ghz, so that should be a good test.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  wrote:
>
> Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?
>
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM
>
> *To:* af
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
>
>
> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
> imagine actually using that.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>
> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual
> freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up
> the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
>
>
> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>
>
>
> *From: *Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
>
>
> What's the beamwidth on this?
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Stefan Englhardt]

Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mathew Howard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
An: af 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually cheaper 
than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360 degrees, and 
there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a bit pricey 
though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically, probably around $500 
for most customers.

I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good enough 
that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service techs lives 
close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to work at 60ghz, 
so that should be a good test.

 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  > 
wrote:

Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?

 

From: Mathew Howard 

Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three 60ghz 
radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't imagine 
actually using that.

 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  > 
wrote:

Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual freq 
with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up the 60 
GHz and hope for the best?

 

From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector 

 

From: Af  > on behalf of 
Jason McKemie  >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com  "  >
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com  "  >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

What's the beamwidth on this?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini  > wrote:

 


 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968




 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



 

 

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Mike Hammett]

Beamforming.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP




- Original Message -
From: Jason McKemie 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 11:59:58 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

Yikes. What is the range on the 60GHz @ 120 degrees?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Bill Prince  wrote:

> 3 * 120° at 60 GHz
>
> 1 360°  at 5 GHz
>
> 1 360° at 2.4 GHz
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/20/2018 9:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[John Babineaux]

Smartermail simple

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Email Server

For those of you still providing your users with an email account what 
platforms are you using?

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Josh Reynolds]

Guys stop Mike can only handle so much.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> SFP+, even.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> And it has a SFP port!
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Harold Bledsoe 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bingo!
>>>
>>> You can use the 2.4GHz for management, for hotspot, for something like
>>> "cablewifi" like the cable guys do.  You can even use it to broadcast an
>>> ssid that says "Gigabit Internet Call 555-1212"
>>>
>>> If you are deploying it in a city, use it to entice the city to give you
>>> access to vertical assets - you'll give city wide free WiFi in return on
>>> 2.4GHz.
>>>
>>> Lot's of possibilities there...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:25 PM Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the
 three 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I
 can't imagine actually using that.

 On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:

> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a
> dual freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you
> put up the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
> What's the beamwidth on this?
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>>
>>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>
>

>

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT buy?

[Josh Reynolds]

I wish I still had all my $9/share stock :(

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
> I bought some early this AM.. Now i’m up 7%.
>
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> I like what UBNT could be more than what they are. That said, they are
> no Google or Apple.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Timothy Steele
>  wrote:
>
> Buy what stock? UBNT is a early Google or or apple I would get stock if I
> could lots of very cool new stuff coming out soon I would hold on to the
> stock for a year
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:59 AM Jon Langeler 
> wrote:
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Sean Heskett]

Gmail for your domain.  But we are a grandfathered beta user.  I think you
have to pay for it nowadays.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 8:34 AM Matt  wrote:

> For those of you still providing your users with an email account what
> platforms are you using?
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Mathew Howard]

SFP+, even.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> And it has a SFP port!
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Harold Bledsoe 
> wrote:
>
>> Bingo!
>>
>> You can use the 2.4GHz for management, for hotspot, for something like
>> "cablewifi" like the cable guys do.  You can even use it to broadcast an
>> ssid that says "Gigabit Internet Call 555-1212"
>>
>> If you are deploying it in a city, use it to entice the city to give you
>> access to vertical assets - you'll give city wide free WiFi in return on
>> 2.4GHz.
>>
>> Lot's of possibilities there...
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:25 PM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
>>> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
>>> imagine actually using that.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a
 dual freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you
 put up the 60 GHz and hope for the best?

 *From:* Gino A. Villarini
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector

 From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
 Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
 To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 What's the beamwidth on this?

 On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
 wrote:

>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>
>

 *Gino A. Villarini*
 President
 Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

 [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]


>>>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Mathew Howard]

Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually
cheaper than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360
degrees, and there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a
bit pricey though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically,
probably around $500 for most customers.

I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good
enough that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service
techs lives close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to
work at 60ghz, so that should be a good test.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  wrote:

> Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
> imagine actually using that.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual
>> freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up
>> the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Jason McKemie]

And it has a SFP port!

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Harold Bledsoe  wrote:

> Bingo!
>
> You can use the 2.4GHz for management, for hotspot, for something like
> "cablewifi" like the cable guys do.  You can even use it to broadcast an
> ssid that says "Gigabit Internet Call 555-1212"
>
> If you are deploying it in a city, use it to entice the city to give you
> access to vertical assets - you'll give city wide free WiFi in return on
> 2.4GHz.
>
> Lot's of possibilities there...
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:25 PM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
>> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
>> imagine actually using that.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a
>>> dual freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you
>>> put up the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>>>
>>> From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>>
>>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
>>> wrote:
>>>




 *Gino A. Villarini*
 President
 Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

 [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]


>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Harold Bledsoe]

Bingo!

You can use the 2.4GHz for management, for hotspot, for something like
"cablewifi" like the cable guys do.  You can even use it to broadcast an
ssid that says "Gigabit Internet Call 555-1212"

If you are deploying it in a city, use it to entice the city to give you
access to vertical assets - you'll give city wide free WiFi in return on
2.4GHz.

Lot's of possibilities there...

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:25 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
> imagine actually using that.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual
>> freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up
>> the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>>
>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>>>
>>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Harold Bledsoe]

It's flexible.

You can run the 60GHz without failover, you can run it with failover.  Then
there is 5GHz built-in that can be for 60GHz failover, 5GHz fixed, or 5GHz
WiFi (depends on configuration).  Finally, there is 2.4GHz as well because
why not?  ;-)

-Hal

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:44 AM  wrote:

> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual
> freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up
> the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
> What's the beamwidth on this?
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>>
>>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[chuck]

Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three 60ghz 
radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't imagine 
actually using that.


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:

  Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual 
freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up the 
60 GHz and hope for the best?

  From: Gino A. Villarini 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

  2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector 

  From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie 

  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector


  What's the beamwidth on this?

  On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:





  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 






Gino A. Villarini
   
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Harold Bledsoe]

Not 50 feet.  ;-)

https://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/MetroLinq-10G-Omni-datasheet.pdf

The range depends on the client used so it ranges from 150m to 700m.  Keep
in mind this isn't a 120 degree fixed sector - it has beamforming so the
actual beam is 8 degrees horizontal by 32 degrees vertical - it moves to
the client it is talking to at that particular moment in time.

-Hal

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:04 PM Robert Andrews 
wrote:

> 50 feet... :)
>
> On 02/20/2018 09:59 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> > Yikes. What is the range on the 60GHz @ 120 degrees?
> >
> > On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Bill Prince  > > wrote:
> >
> > 3 * 120° at 60 GHz
> >
> > 1 360°  at 5 GHz
> >
> > 1 360° at 2.4 GHz
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 2/20/2018 9:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> >
> > What's the beamwidth on this?
> >
> >
>

[AFMUG] 3.65 license available

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 license.

We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you need 
a 3.65 license, go bid on this.

Good luck!



https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Mathew Howard]

It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
imagine actually using that.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:

> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual
> freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up
> the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
> What's the beamwidth on this?
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Mathew Howard]

They're beamforming antennas... it's actually the same gain as their older
30 degree sector. I figure we should be able to get at least a quarter mile
without any real issues.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Yikes. What is the range on the 60GHz @ 120 degrees?
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> 3 * 120° at 60 GHz
>>
>> 1 360°  at 5 GHz
>>
>> 1 360° at 2.4 GHz
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 2/20/2018 9:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>
>>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Joshua Stump]

MagicMail.

Joshua Stump
Network Admin
Fourway.NET
800-733-0062

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Email Server

For those of you still providing your users with an email account what 
platforms are you using?

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Robert Andrews]

50 feet... :)

On 02/20/2018 09:59 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Yikes. What is the range on the 60GHz @ 120 degrees?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Bill Prince > wrote:


3 * 120° at 60 GHz

1 360°  at 5 GHz

1 360° at 2.4 GHz


bp


On 2/20/2018 9:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

What's the beamwidth on this?

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Jason McKemie]

Yikes. What is the range on the 60GHz @ 120 degrees?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Bill Prince  wrote:

> 3 * 120° at 60 GHz
>
> 1 360°  at 5 GHz
>
> 1 360° at 2.4 GHz
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/20/2018 9:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
>> What's the beamwidth on this?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Announces New 10 Gigabit

[Josh Baird]

What is the promotion?  What models?

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> They have a promotion for the 5Gbps Model running. On their website is a
> link calculator.
>
> In our region 2.5km is ok with 2ft. Longer does need a fallback link. Cant
> modulate much …
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 16:39
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* [AFMUG] Siklu Announces New 10 Gigabit
>
>
>
> I wonder what the real world distance usability is for this.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Matt,

MagicMail.   It  was a good compromise for us.  I pay them a small fee
every  year  and  they  take  care of all the upgrade crap.  Server is
located  at my location and I have full access to check logs and other
stuff.

-- 
Best regards,
 Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com

--

Tuesday, February 20, 2018, 11:34:34 AM, you wrote:

M> For those of you still providing your users with an email account what
M> platforms are you using?

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[chuck]

Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual freq 
with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up the 60 
GHz and hope for the best?

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector 

From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector


What's the beamwidth on this?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:





Gino A. Villarini
   
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 





  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT buy?

[Cassidy B. Larson]

I bought some early this AM.. Now i’m up 7%. 


> On Feb 20, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> I like what UBNT could be more than what they are. That said, they are
> no Google or Apple.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Timothy Steele
>  wrote:
>> Buy what stock? UBNT is a early Google or or apple I would get stock if I
>> could lots of very cool new stuff coming out soon I would hold on to the
>> stock for a year
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:59 AM Jon Langeler 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Jon Langeler
>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>> 
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Bill Prince]

3 * 120° at 60 GHz

1 360°  at 5 GHz

1 360° at 2.4 GHz


bp


On 2/20/2018 9:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

What's the beamwidth on this?

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Gino A. Villarini]

2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector

From: Af > on behalf of Jason 
McKemie 
>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

What's the beamwidth on this?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT buy?

[Josh Reynolds]

I like what UBNT could be more than what they are. That said, they are
no Google or Apple.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Timothy Steele
 wrote:
> Buy what stock? UBNT is a early Google or or apple I would get stock if I
> could lots of very cool new stuff coming out soon I would hold on to the
> stock for a year
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:59 AM Jon Langeler 
> wrote:
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Josh Reynolds]

#baller

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Mike Hammett]

360 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jason McKemie"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:13:10 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector 

What's the beamwidth on this? 

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: 









Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Jason McKemie]

What's the beamwidth on this?

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Kerry Penland]

MailEnable for one system, MagicMail for another , and yes, we still have  
a qmail/squirrelmail system running.


On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 11:38:05 -0500, Mike Hammett  wrote:


Zimbra. Works great.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP




From: "Matt" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:34:33 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Email Server

For those of you still providing your users with an email account what
platforms are you using?





--
Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Nate Burke]

It's expensive (now) but Icewarp mail server has just worked for us for 
like 15 years.


On 2/20/2018 10:34 AM, Matt wrote:

For those of you still providing your users with an email account what
platforms are you using?

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT buy?

[Timothy Steele]

Buy what stock? UBNT is a early Google or or apple I would get stock if I
could lots of very cool new stuff coming out soon I would hold on to the
stock for a year

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:59 AM Jon Langeler 
wrote:

> Any thoughts?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

[Mike Hammett]

Zimbra. Works great. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Matt"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:34:33 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Email Server 

For those of you still providing your users with an email account what 
platforms are you using? 

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Announces New 10 Gigabit

[Robert]

Exactly what I was wondering too.  Talk about vague...

On 2/20/18 7:38 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I wonder what the real world distance usability is for this.

[AFMUG] Email Server

[Matt]

For those of you still providing your users with an email account what
platforms are you using?

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Announces New 10 Gigabit

[Stefan Englhardt]

They have a promotion for the 5Gbps Model running. On their website is a
link calculator.

In our region 2.5km is ok with 2ft. Longer does need a fallback link. Cant
modulate much .

 

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von ch...@wbmfg.com
Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 16:39
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] Siklu Announces New 10 Gigabit

 

I wonder what the real world distance usability is for this.  

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Announces New 10 Gigabit

[Mathew Howard]

Similar to any other e-band radio, I would imagine. Judging from the
calculations I've done/had done, trying to get much more than a mile seems
to be pushing it, if you want decent availability (around here anyway, you
might be able to get a bit more out of it in Utah). There have been other
10Gig 70/80ghz radios out there for awhile... I almost bought one from
Bridgewave last year when they were running a special, but we decided it
made more sense to go with the 3Gig one instead.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:38 AM,  wrote:

> I wonder what the real world distance usability is for this.
>

[AFMUG] Siklu Announces New 10 Gigabit

[chuck]

I wonder what the real world distance usability is for this.  

[AFMUG] UBNT buy?

[Jon Langeler]

Any thoughts? 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

[AFMUG] epmp mobile radio antenna files

[Eric Muehleisen]

Does anyone have epmp antenna files available? Cambium posts them on their
support page, but they are in nsma format, not ant.

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

[Chuck McCown]

We used to allow all AnimalFarm sponsors to do exactly this.  Every Friday 
morning.  Perhaps a time to revisit the issue...  Good way to build a kitty for 
Paul.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Chuck could consider allowing vendors to post ad's on a specific day and time 
for a specific fee, but that's a whole other animal to deal with, the plus 
would be he could add like *SPONSORED AD* to the title which we can all filter 
straight to spam if desired 

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

  Its is Overkill, providing your time has no value to chase down why X Mail 
server can’t be delivered to, or why X mail server has undefined bounces or x 
firewall system thinks it’s spam, etc. etc.  



  Amazon never goes down, never gets blacklisted.



  If you are cool with bulk mailserver drama, then have a go at switching, and 
managing that aspect.     



  AES is not the cheapest option no doubt.  This was a choice Chuck and I made 
to make sure it “just worked” because we all have businesses that, hopefully, 
are successful enough to not want to fuss with it.



  Paul







  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
  Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:13 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive



  What is SES?  Amazon?



  That seems overkill for a mailing list. 


  On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:09, Mike Hammett  wrote:

SES



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Matt Hoppes" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:05:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Support of what???



What the heck costs that much?



Mailman takes all of 10 minutes to install and just lives after that. 


On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:52, Ryan Ray  wrote:



  Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including 
support, $1800 not including support. 



  On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:

Can it really be more than $5



How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take when 
virtualized?


On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John  wrote:

  Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list?

  On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown  
wrote:

I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the 
not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive.Please clean out your 
couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to paulm@pdmnet.netPaul, what is 
the current status of our deficit?
  -- 
  Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

[Chuck McCown]

Well, I think he is happy to watch over it, but probably less happy to 100% 
financially support it...

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Others have, so I believe the preference is more on not rocking the boat as 
long as the service gets paid for. As Paul has said he's happy to pay for it, I 
don't see it moving.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Sean Heskett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:37:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive


And yet no one besides Paul has volunteered to manage and run the list.

If you think you can do it for less cost then I suggest you volunteer to manage 
and run it.

Otherwise let’s all just chip in and move on with our lives.  (Or don’t chip 
in, it’s not a required payment)

The other option is to unsubscribe but I’ll warn ya this place is like the 
hotel California...you can check out but you can never leave ;-)

Cheers!

-Sean

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 9:51 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

  That is absolutely absurd, considering that I have several MX for much higher 
traffic levels than this email list sees, running on xen VMs each with 2 
logical CPU cores, 1024MB of RAM, 40GB of disk and running at kernel average 
loads of 0.02. 


  On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Ryan Ray  wrote:


Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including 
support, $1800 not including support. 

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:

  Can it really be more than $5

  How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take when 
virtualized?

  On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John  wrote:


Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list?


On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown  
wrote: 
I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the 
not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive.Please clean out your 
couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to paulm@pdmnet.netPaul, what is 
the current status of our deficit?
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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

[Steve Jones]

as paul has said, many times, its not about the resources, its about the
management. If a guy is offering but not willing to make sure everybody is
getting the emails and it flows smooth, hes making it worse, not a value.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Others have, so I believe the preference is more on not rocking the boat
> as long as the service gets paid for. As Paul has said he's happy to pay
> for it, I don't see it moving.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Sean Heskett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:37:00 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>
> And yet no one besides Paul has volunteered to manage and run the list.
>
> If you think you can do it for less cost then I suggest you volunteer to
> manage and run it.
>
> Otherwise let’s all just chip in and move on with our lives.  (Or don’t
> chip in, it’s not a required payment)
>
> The other option is to unsubscribe but I’ll warn ya this place is like the
> hotel California...you can check out but you can never leave ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> -Sean
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 9:51 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>
>> That is absolutely absurd, considering that I have several MX for much
>> higher traffic levels than this email list sees, running on xen VMs each
>> with 2 logical CPU cores, 1024MB of RAM, 40GB of disk and running at kernel
>> average loads of 0.02.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Ryan Ray  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including
>>> support, $1800 not including support.
>>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes >> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>
 Can it really be more than $5

 How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take when
 virtualized?

 On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John  wrote:

 Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list?

 On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

> I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the
> not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive.
>
> Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> Paul, what is the current status of our deficit?
>
>
>
>
 --
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wire management on swinging doors.

[Dave]

take some silicon adhesive at time of install and put a bead around it 
or be creative and put some on the back and use some tape to hold in place

for 24 hrs.


On 02/19/2018 10:34 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
I used those, they all eventually fell off due to heat and the 
elements (even though they were inside a truck bed tool box)


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:


These are some ways we do it.. these are adhesive type

Jaime Solorza




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[AFMUG] looking to buy some used ubnt gear

[Tim Reichhart]

Hello guys
I have tried to send a email on wispa list but it seems like its not accepting 
my other email address but anyways I am looking to buy 2 used rocket m5 ac 
lites and any used rocket m5 prisms first gen radios.

Tim



 

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

[Mike Hammett]

Others have, so I believe the preference is more on not rocking the boat as 
long as the service gets paid for. As Paul has said he's happy to pay for it, I 
don't see it moving. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Sean Heskett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:37:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive 



And yet no one besides Paul has volunteered to manage and run the list. 


If you think you can do it for less cost then I suggest you volunteer to manage 
and run it. 


Otherwise let’s all just chip in and move on with our lives. (Or don’t chip in, 
it’s not a required payment) 


The other option is to unsubscribe but I’ll warn ya this place is like the 
hotel California...you can check out but you can never leave ;-) 


Cheers! 


-Sean 


On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 9:51 PM Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > wrote: 



That is absolutely absurd, considering that I have several MX for much higher 
traffic levels than this email list sees, running on xen VMs each with 2 
logical CPU cores, 1024MB of RAM, 40GB of disk and running at kernel average 
loads of 0.02. 





On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Ryan Ray < ryan...@gmail.com > wrote: 







Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including 
support, $1800 not including support. 








On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes < 
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > wrote: 





Can it really be more than $5 


How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take when virtualized? 



On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John < keefe...@ethoplex.com > wrote: 




Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list? 


On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 



I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the 
not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive. 

Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to 
pa...@pdmnet.net 

Paul, what is the current status of our deficit? 






-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. 

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

“Warm smell of colitas...”

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
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jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Feb 20, 2018, at 1:37 AM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
> 
> And yet no one besides Paul has volunteered to manage and run the list.
> 
> If you think you can do it for less cost then I suggest you volunteer to 
> manage and run it.
> 
> Otherwise let’s all just chip in and move on with our lives.  (Or don’t chip 
> in, it’s not a required payment)
> 
> The other option is to unsubscribe but I’ll warn ya this place is like the 
> hotel California...you can check out but you can never leave ;-)
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> -Sean
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 9:51 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>> That is absolutely absurd, considering that I have several MX for much 
>> higher traffic levels than this email list sees, running on xen VMs each 
>> with 2 logical CPU cores, 1024MB of RAM, 40GB of disk and running at kernel 
>> average loads of 0.02. 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Ryan Ray  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including 
>>> support, $1800 not including support. 
>> 
 On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes 
  wrote:
 Can it really be more than $5
 
 How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take when virtualized?
 
> On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John  wrote:
> 
> Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list?
> 
>> On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown  
>> wrote:
>> I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the 
>> not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive.
>> 
>> Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to 
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>> 
>> Paul, what is the current status of our deficit?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>