[AFMUG] Reid's Section 179 revival on the ropes

2014-11-26 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Veto threat derails Reid tax deal

By Bernie Becker - 11/25/14 02:46 PM EST

The White House on Tuesday threatened to veto an emerging deal that 
would restore several lapsed tax breaks, bringing into the open tensions 
between President Obama and the top Senate Democrat.


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/225318-congress-closes-in-on-tax-break-agreement



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[AFMUG] Dymo label printers

2014-11-25 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
Does anyone use the Dymo Rhino label printers?  I got one and love it -- 
except for trying to peel the backing off labels.  It's a real pain and 
I end up ruining quite a few by stretching them or getting adhesive on 
my fingers then on the front of the label.   Any tricks I haven't 
figured out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Dymo label printers

2014-11-25 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
Vinyl 3/8 labels with the split in the middle.  My middle split never 
seems to come apart without using a fingernail or something similar.


On 11/25/2014 12:27 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af wrote:
We have one.  Do your labels have the split down the center of the 
backing?  We just pinch the two edges together until the backing 
splits and then peel it off.  Which labels are you using in it?


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mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


Does anyone use the Dymo Rhino label printers?  I got one and love it 
-- except for trying to peel the backing off labels.  It's a real 
pain and I end up ruining quite a few by stretching them or getting 
adhesive on my fingers then on the front of the label.   Any tricks I 
haven't figured out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Dymo label printers

2014-11-25 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

I'll try to do that, want to make a YouTube video? :)


On 11/25/2014 12:34 PM, Caleb Knauer via Af wrote:
Yeah we use them a lot.  It's hard to explain how I do it, but there's 
a bit of a trick to it.  Basically I put one end, print side down, on 
the tip of my index finger (so it will make a little U shape) and hold 
it down with the thumb of same hand.  The I push down with my other 
hand thumb nail and sweep across it until I can catch the middle split 
edge and get it started.


Re: [AFMUG] Non-Penetrating Roof Mount 10-20 feet talkk

2014-10-23 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
Another possibility: 
http://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_listc=46 Non-pen tripod.



On 10/23/2014 4:31 PM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote:

Hey guys,

What is your recommendation for a non-penetrating mount for the 10-20 
foot range that can support 2-3 sectors in the 10-20 foot range and a 
few 16 dishes down around 6 feet? Up to 10 feet we could use  Rigid 
or IMC conduit but this probably makes more sense to use small tower 
(Rohn) sections? Let me know your thoughts.  Thanks


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Re: [AFMUG] Non-Penetrating Roof Mount 10-20 feet talkk

2014-10-23 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
And another option I found in the handy-dandy Rohn catalog I picked up 
last week:


http://www.rohnnet.com/rohn-25g-ballast-roof-mount


On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
pretty much any regular non penetrating mount is going to have a max 
height of 10', taller than that would have to be custom fabricated.


https://www.bairdmounts.com/products/wireless/by-mount-type/Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mounts-%28NPRM%29?mtid=2


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Another possibility:
http://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_listc=46 Non-pen
tripod.



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Hey guys,

What is your recommendation for a non-penetrating mount for the
10-20 foot range that can support 2-3 sectors in the 10-20 foot
range and a few 16 dishes down around 6 feet? Up to 10 feet we
could use  Rigid or IMC conduit but this probably makes more
sense to use small tower (Rohn) sections? Let me know your
thoughts.  Thanks

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Re: [AFMUG] UBNT airview won't run

2014-10-21 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Not using wildcards are you?  They don't work.

On 10/21/2014 3:49 PM, Craig Baird via Af wrote:
I tried entering exceptions (as http://x.x.x.x as well as 
https://x.x.x.x).  No go.  Still gives the same error.


Craig


Quoting Jason Pond via Af af@afmug.com:


This is with the latest Java update just happened to me about 10 minutes
ago.  You have to add the IP to the exception list as http://x.x.x.x  
then
click OK go to Configure Java in search under start menu.  Then click 
the

security tab and add exception.

It is a real pain.

Sincerely,

Jason Pond
Grizzly Internet, Inc

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 3:38 PM, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com 
wrote:


I have not seen that issue but I use Firefox for UBNT stuff.. There 
where

bug  fixes for that in 5.6 beta5 I think you might try that

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Craig Baird via Af af@afmug.com 
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Is Airview giving anyone else Java related grief? I've got 5.5.10 on
the radio, and when trying to run Airview, it pops an Unable to
launch error. I've googled for solutions, and so far nothing pans
out. Using the latest Java 8. In the past, it appears that the
solution to this problem was to drop Java security to medium. Oracle
appears to have removed that option in recent versions. Now you can
only select High or Very High. However, you're supposed to be
able to accomplish the same thing by putting the URL into the
exception list. I've done that, but to no avail. I've also tried it
on a PC running Java 7 with the same results.

Does anyone have a solution to this?

Craig













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Re: [AFMUG] VoIP Termination Providers

2014-10-13 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Have you looked at SIPRoutes?

On 10/13/2014 10:02 AM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
I'm looking for a backup termination provider to VoIP Innovations, so 
that if VI has an issue, customers can still make outbound calls.  I 
know there are Thousands out there, Just looking for good/bad/ugly 
experiences with any of them.  Or if you're really happy with one.


I'm hitting my VI minimums just in inbound calling, so I could route 
all outbound traffic through a different provider if they require 
monthly minimums.


Nate


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Re: [AFMUG] Trango coming back to unlicensed pmp/ptp with AC based system

2014-10-13 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

You might just have to get back into the business if it does.

Z!

On 10/13/2014 4:18 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:

Does it have an LED display? :))

Travis

On 10/13/2014 4:08 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote:

https://www.trangosys.com/news/introducing-new-altum-ac-outdoor-5x-ghz-wireless-system-integrated-wi-fi



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[AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
I have a project that has about 50 feet of 2 metal conduit running to 
the top of a water tank.  There are two large-radius bends in the 
conduit.   We want to pull as many cat5e cables as possible.  We'll need 
at least 18.


I found this table and compared the size of UBNT Toughcable.  It looks 
to be in the same size range as the GigaLAN Cat6E cable, about .24.  
Based on their table, we should be able to pull 27 cables through.


How would you pull a bundle like that?  What do you use to attach the 
cables together before pulling?   Just electrical tape?  Any other 
suggestions?


There are actually two conduits, but we will need to put some coax in 
the second one, but should have room for a few more ethernet cables as 
well.


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Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Thanks for the tips.
I forgot to link to the table.  How many cat6 cables did you pull? Does 
this table look realistic or overly conservative?


http://i.dslr.net/syms/f2495df981639d43c9b114343f451413.gif



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I've done a number of long pulls in 2 conduit with cat6 shielded (and 
electrical too) you can make the pull go much easier if you:


-Stagger the cables and have at least one about 24 longer than the 
rest, loop that one cable back and tape it to a bundle of 2 or 3 other 
cables, tape smaller bundles together and then those


bundles to the others until you've taped them all down around 12 to 
18 beyond the last bundle or shortest cables. You should end up with 
a  tapered end with a nice solid loop at the end.


-If you use jet line or pulling tape, incorporate that into your 
bundles by wrapping it around and taping it off with the other 
bundles, this is usually done with the primary bundle (the one with 
the loop).  If you have a pulling sleeve w/ swivel, use it, very handy.


-Wire lube is helpful but I only use it if I'm pulling the max number 
of cables for that conduit size and/or there are more than a couple bends


-Having someone 'push' the bundle through is as important as the 
person pulling, coordinating the pull / push process is also helpful.


Mike Greene

Rock Island Technology Solutions

360-378-5884 x201

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*Subject:* [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit

I have a project that has about 50 feet of 2 metal conduit running to 
the top of a water tank.  There are two large-radius bends in the 
conduit.   We want to pull as many cat5e cables as possible.  We'll 
need at least 18.


I found this table and compared the size of UBNT Toughcable.  It looks 
to be in the same size range as the GigaLAN Cat6E cable, about .24.  
Based on their table, we should be able to pull 27 cables through.


How would you pull a bundle like that?  What do you use to attach the 
cables together before pulling?   Just electrical tape?  Any other 
suggestions?


There are actually two conduits, but we will need to put some coax in 
the second one, but should have room for a few more ethernet cables as 
well.


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Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
I'm not following you on the tape  recommendation.  How do you keep the 
bundle together if you remove the tape before it goes into the conduit?  
Do you tape at regular intervals then remove the tape as just before it 
hits the conduit?


Randy



On 10/9/2014 11:41 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote:

Lube, Lube, and more Lube :-)

Down is a lot easier than up.

It's absolutely critical to keep the cables very neat as they go into 
the conduit.  Twist them up and it's not going to work. Tape them  
neatly ahead of time but DON'T let the tape go in the conduit.   Have 
the helper take it off right before it goes in.


One cable is the leader - make it about 4' longer than the rest, 
double it back and very securely tape it into the bigger bundle.   Use 
that loop to pull with.   This should work fine for a short run.   If 
your going much farther you want to use a pulling sock.


Mark

On 10/9/14, 12:48 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
I have a project that has about 50 feet of 2 metal conduit running 
to the top of a water tank.  There are two large-radius bends in the 
conduit.   We want to pull as many cat5e cables as possible.  We'll 
need at least 18.


I found this table and compared the size of UBNT Toughcable.  It 
looks to be in the same size range as the GigaLAN Cat6E cable, about 
.24.  Based on their table, we should be able to pull 27 cables through.


How would you pull a bundle like that?  What do you use to attach the 
cables together before pulling?   Just electrical tape?  Any other 
suggestions?


There are actually two conduits, but we will need to put some coax in 
the second one, but should have room for a few more ethernet cables 
as well.


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Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

It's not rated for gigabit.


On 10/9/2014 11:51 AM, CARL PETERSON via Af wrote:
Why not just pull one 100 pair OSP?  That should equal 25 individual 
runs.


http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/Product_Information/Premises_Copper/MEGAPIC_CAT5.pdf


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401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
Baltimore, MD 21202
(410) 637-3707

On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Randy Cosby via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


I have a project that has about 50 feet of 2 metal conduit running 
to the top of a water tank.  There are two large-radius bends in the 
conduit.   We want to pull as many cat5e cables as possible.  We'll 
need at least 18.


I found this table and compared the size of UBNT Toughcable.  It 
looks to be in the same size range as the GigaLAN Cat6E cable, about 
.24.  Based on their table, we should be able to pull 27 cables through.


How would you pull a bundle like that?  What do you use to attach the 
cables together before pulling?   Just electrical tape?  Any other 
suggestions?


There are actually two conduits, but we will need to put some coax in 
the second one, but should have room for a few more ethernet cables 
as well.


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Re: [AFMUG] Purchasing another WISP

2014-10-08 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Be sure to shut your mic off if you're not on the air :)


On 10/8/2014 1:29 PM, Dennis Burgess via Af wrote:


We just went though a great ISP Radio episode with Jeff Kohler from 
Jab Wireless on Acquisitions!  Check out the download!


Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

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*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jerry 
Richardson (airCloud) via Af

*Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Purchasing another WISP

It's all in how you manage the changes.

Send a letter welcoming them to the family. Outline some of the steps 
you have taken to improve service, and that your company takes a very 
proactive approach to network monitoring, uptime, and performance. Let 
them know how to get customer support and how to contact your various 
departments. Taking these steps will increase retention, and sets the 
tone for what they can expect from their new provider.


Additionally, describe the new plan options are and what plan they 
will be transferred to. If someone doesn't like their new plan, let 
them know what the upgrade options are. They can choose to upgrade or 
go somewhere else.


On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:02 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


Take a page out of JABs handbook and just tell them to go ^%$ 
themselves if they dont like it


On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


I would probably just match it to the rest of your system. my guess is 
the majority of them won't even notice the difference... if you've 
cleaned up a lot of self interference issues, a lot of them will 
likely work better than they did before with the all the self 
interference issues. You probably will get a few that are mad they 
can't get 10mbps on a speed test at 2am anymore though...




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*Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:51 AM
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*Subject:* [AFMUG] Purchasing another WISP

I just bought another WISP, negotiating with another.

The previous owners set up the system using Rocket M900 using 20MHz 
channels on everything, stomping all over itself and everyone else in 
the band. I changed that, did my best to stop the self interference, 
smaller channels, etc...


This was just a tiny bit of back story to show what I've gotten myself 
in to.


Everyone has unlimited access to their 10Mb fiber, which I have 
replaced by tying it into my network.


There was no traffic shaping, no speed limits, no QoS. Most of them 
aren't heavy users, just a couple that run torrents 24/7. The P2P 
folks have been limited already. Not terribly worried about upsetting 
them.


I'm a bit concerned I'm going to anger my new customers by matching 
the same config I have for my system of 1Mb/4Mb.


How did/would you guys handle situations like this? My main QoS at the 
edge prevents any one person from hogging all the bandwidth.


I'm currently torn between QoS at the tower and uncapping the CPE or 
limiting the CPE as I've always done.




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Re: [AFMUG] MARRIOTT TO PAY $600, 000 TO RESOLVE WIFI-BLOCKING INVESTIGATION

2014-10-06 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Tim,

The lists doesn't show sender email addresses.  Are you with the FCC?

Randy

On 10/3/2014 11:45 AM, Hardy, Tim via Af wrote:


More information about impermissible Wi-Fi blocking or jamming 
practices is available at


www.fcc.gov/jammers. If you would like additional information about 
Wi-Fi blocking, you may email us at


jammeri...@fcc.gov.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett via Af
*Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 1:42 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] MARRIOTT TO PAY $600, 000 TO RESOLVE 
WIFI-BLOCKING INVESTIGATION


being a hotel might be the thing that made it a problem.  If an 
enterprise or hospital does it as a security measure, I have trouble 
believing that's illegal.


Marriott are dicks, but here's an interesting question...

broad spectrum 2.4 or 5 GHz jammers are illegal, yeah.

But is an 802.11-compliant device issuing deauth requests illegal,
if part-15 devices are supposed to accept any unwanted
interference and there's no recourse?

Provided that the device issuing deauth requests is operating
within spec for EIRP, channel plan, etc.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Hardy, Tim via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-329743A1.docx



Re: [AFMUG] How frequently have you had a price increase?

2014-10-06 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
We've had good results with introducing new speed tiers, but asking 
customers to sign new contracts for a free upgrade.


For example, if you have a 5M/1M plan and you introduce a a new 7M/1M 
for the same price, or 10M/2M (double the speed!) for just $5 more, you 
will get a lot of upgraders as well as a lot of goodwill and better 
retention from those who stay at the same price but get more speed.


Where you have the market more locked up you may not be as concerned 
with the retention as we are.


Randy


On 10/4/2014 2:30 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
I think most customers are OK with a small increase (like $45 to $49). 
If you break into the $50 range, you may get some resistance.


You could always do up to 100Mbit for $49, since the speeds are up 
to anyway. ;)


Travis

On 10/4/2014 2:00 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote:


We are thinking of raising our prices on our residential  basic 
plan.  Some of our customers have been on the same priced plan for 7 
years (or more).  Around $ 45 / month for up to 5Mbit/1Mbit.  
Probably 25% of those customers, we are the only good source for 
Internet.  The rest have varying levels of DSL or cable options.


Thinking of bumping those customers to $ 49.  Maybe a little more, 
haven't decided.


How do you handle price changes and/or on your customers on rolling 
contracts ?


Paul

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/

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Re: [AFMUG] 477 filing - delayed?

2014-09-29 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

*http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/form-477-resources-filers
*
The deadline for the submission of data as of June 30, 2014 has been 
extended 
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1409A1.pdf beyond 
October 1. Once the site reopens, we will announce the new filing deadline.


*If I'm ever late on my 477, do you think they'll accept temporarily 
unavailable due to technical issues from me?



*
On 9/29/2014 11:45 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote:

And still down.

Patrick Wheeland via Af wrote:

I have one last form to submit and it's still down.  :-/


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mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:



The Form 477 filing interface is temporarily unavailable. We have
identified an issue that developed on September 25, 2014 and are
working to fix the problem and reopen the site as soon as
possible. We apologize for the inconvenience

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Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

2014-09-24 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
What firmware are you running onthe XW Ti's?  We've been using 5.6B4, 
but it hasn't been updated in a long time.  Earlier revisions had lots 
of issues.



On 9/24/2014 10:07 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote:
We're doing OKAY on the XW Ti's, they do handle the load better. 50+ 
subsper. Wish they had airmax offloading ofcourse. We do block 
torrents/magnet links though.This forces all torrent traffic to go 
through VPNs, which is fine by us as it doesn't cause a negative 
impact on the network.


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 09/24/2014 04:26 AM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:


Ya, I don’t’ think so.  If you use Ubiquiti you pretty much 
know what works and what doesn’t.  in reality, you use as few  custom 
features as possible outside 802.11 compatibility and limit the 
radios to Layer 2 bridges or nothing more than NAT whenever 
possible.  Try not to use any of the customer features although 
AirMax seems to be working pretty well.   You just don’t want to add 
anything that adds to processor overhead on an AP for Rocket M5’s if 
you have a higher density.  When the Titanium’s tanked a couple years 
ago, there was a huge hole in any kind of AP product with the ability 
to handle density due to the processor but nobody filled it.  It 
still hasn’t been filled to my satisfaction meaning we aren’t 
replacing Rocket 5M’s any time soon and we are keeping them at 50 
users or less for another few months.  However, NetFlix and video 
streaming means we are pushing that down to a planned 30 over the 
next couple of months.  That numbers are just estimates but somewhere 
between 30-50 under heavy video streaming usage and AirMax will start 
causing issues.


If you allow torrents or anything that opens up a massive number of 
connections, then the number of users per AP drops significantly 
which is why we run filtering on the back end to reduce that.  I’ve 
seen APs with less than 30 go apoplectic with a couple of wild 
torrent users.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] *On 
Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:47 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

:-) the ubntboys tend to not be all that informed they blindly swear 
by whatever the spec sheets and feature notices tell them


On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


For the first question, I have no idea, since the only released 
radios are PtP at this time. Pretty hard to tell.


For the second one, ubntboys (at least the informed ones) don't run 
airsync, because they know it doesn't work well. :)


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 09/23/2014 09:06 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

does it work? or does it work in ubntboys eyes like airsync?

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

For clarification for EVERYBODY reading this post, ALL AIRMAX AC
PRODUCTS HAVE AIRMAX OFFLOADING :)

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 09/23/2014 07:33 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:

The ptp-lites do have airmax offloading? I thought they didn't...

We've had a link running for awhile, but it's got some noise
issues, so it hasn't really been the best place to test
these... that said, they've been running fine without any
real problems that I've noticed.
�



*From:*Af [af-bounces+mathew=litewire@afmug.com
mailto:af-bounces+mathew=litewire@afmug.com] on behalf
of Josh Reynolds via Af [af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:49 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

ptp lites are missing the internal shielding (i think?) as
well as airprism tech

they do have airmax offloading, but it's also a brand new
product line... some bugs are showing in the software

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 09/23/2014 06:48 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

These are basically beta release hardware? its missing
some guts?

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Rory Conaway via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I don�t have one but from what I�m reading, it�s
not quite ready for primetime.� I�m waiting.

�

Rory

�

*From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory
mailto:af-bounces%2Brory=triadwireless@afmug.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

2014-09-24 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

The last 5.6-dev I got a few weeks ago had ebola.

Are you seeing any better performance in 5.5.10B3 vs 5.6b4?

Randy



On 9/24/2014 10:19 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote:
There's a 5.5.10b3 out that fixes some issues with 5.5.10b2 as well as 
still allows the new lower band. 5.6b4 isout, and as always there are 
some -dev firmwares floating around...


Running a mix of b2, b3, and 5.6-dev...

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 09/24/2014 08:14 AM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
What firmware are you running onthe XW Ti's?  We've been using 5.6B4, 
but it hasn't been updated in a long time.  Earlier revisions had 
lots of issues.



On 9/24/2014 10:07 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote:
We're doing OKAY on the XW Ti's, they do handle the load better. 50+ 
subsper. Wish they had airmax offloading ofcourse. We do block 
torrents/magnet links though.This forces all torrent traffic to go 
through VPNs, which is fine by us as it doesn't cause a negative 
impact on the network.


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 09/24/2014 04:26 AM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:


Ya, I don’t’ think so.  If you use Ubiquiti you pretty much 
know what works and what doesn’t.  in reality, you use as few  
custom features as possible outside 802.11 compatibility and limit 
the radios to Layer 2 bridges or nothing more than NAT whenever 
possible. Try not to use any of the customer features although 
AirMax seems to be working pretty well.   You just don’t want to 
add anything that adds to processor overhead on an AP for Rocket 
M5’s if you have a higher density.  When the Titanium’s tanked a 
couple years ago, there was a huge hole in any kind of AP product 
with the ability to handle density due to the processor but nobody 
filled it.  It still hasn’t been filled to my satisfaction meaning 
we aren’t replacing Rocket 5M’s any time soon and we are keeping 
them at 50 users or less for another few months.  However, NetFlix 
and video streaming means we are pushing that down to a planned 30 
over the next couple of months. That numbers are just estimates but 
somewhere between 30-50 under heavy video streaming usage and 
AirMax will start causing issues.


If you allow torrents or anything that opens up a massive number of 
connections, then the number of users per AP drops significantly 
which is why we run filtering on the back end to reduce that.  I’ve 
seen APs with less than 30 go apoplectic with a couple of wild 
torrent users.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] *On 
Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:47 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

:-) the ubntboys tend to not be all that informed they blindly 
swear by whatever the spec sheets and feature notices tell them


On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af 
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


For the first question, I have no idea, since the only released 
radios are PtP at this time. Pretty hard to tell.


For the second one, ubntboys (at least the informed ones) don't 
run airsync, because they know it doesn't work well. :)


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 09/23/2014 09:06 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

does it work? or does it work in ubntboys eyes like airsync?

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

For clarification for EVERYBODY reading this post, ALL AIRMAX
AC PRODUCTS HAVE AIRMAX OFFLOADING :)

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 09/23/2014 07:33 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:

The ptp-lites do have airmax offloading? I thought they
didn't...

We've had a link running for awhile, but it's got some
noise issues, so it hasn't really been the best place to
test these... that said, they've been running fine without
any real problems that I've noticed.
�



*From:*Af [af-bounces+mathew=litewire@afmug.com
mailto:af-bounces+mathew=litewire@afmug.com] on
behalf of Josh Reynolds via Af [af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:49 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

ptp lites are missing the internal shielding (i think?) as
well as airprism tech

they do have airmax offloading, but it's also a brand new
product line... some bugs are showing in the software

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

2014-09-22 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
Only if you first microwave both the injector and adapter for 1.5 
minutes on high.


On 9/22/2014 1:08 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an 
ethernet-over-powerlines adapter, do you get infinite energy?






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Re: [AFMUG] Quick Poll: 477 Deployment Report

2014-09-19 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
I've heard Centurylink is challenging claimed coverage by WISP's in it's 
territory.



On 9/19/2014 3:04 PM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
Um yeah agreed.  I have 13,000 census blocks in my submission. Not 
hand filtering that.
I take solace in the fact that in the rural areas we're concerned 
about getting CAF funding Time Warner's reported coverage is more 
egregiously wrong than mine. :)



I filed with A, but now have data in hand for B.   My RF coverage 
(based on radiomobile) has 4X as many blocks as I reported with A.   
I could still go back and amend the report.


I would love to go hand-groom the list... but over 6800 blocks is a 
bit much unless I can do it visually.




On 9/19/2014 2:45 PM, Cameron Crum via Af wrote:
Line of sight viewsheds (which consider clutter) might be your 
better choice then instead of coverage maps. At least you know with 
LOS that you have a greater chance of providing service than with 
coverage maps as they tend to be rather subjective depending on what 
you consider acceptable coverage signal. I looked at both 
subscriber only blocks and blocks with simple reasonable radius 
from a tower for a couple of our wisps. The difference was 
significant. Since it could potentially mean that my customers get 
their networks overbuilt with fed money, I tend to lean towards the 
radius or coverage plot method which produces more blocks.


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


Reluctantly B.  The devil on one shoulder is still telling me A.
Actually, I am starting from A and manually approving every
addition from B.  It’s a lot of work and I probably won’t do it
every 6 months, but I’m asking in each case am I sure that I
could reach at least part of that census block, and if so, why
don’t I have any customers there yet?  I am more inclined to go
with RF coverage in new areas I’ve just built into.  If I’ve
been there 10 years and don’t have any customers in that block,
maybe I can’t cover it.  In some cases I find there are zero
buildings in the block, so if Frontier wants to get CAF money to
provide service there, more power to them.
I am probably being paranoid, but if I ever get challenged on
this, I want to have my ducks in a row.  Also I want to figure
out a way, even if I pay Brian or something, to turn this into a
coverage map and/or Google Earth overlay and use that as our
coverage map instead of RF coverage plots which I find lacking.
For some WISPs, this might be a good sales/marketing exercise. 
What are all the blocks where we have RF coverage but zero

customers?  Why no customers?  Nobody lives there?  Competitor
outguns me there?  Or just no word-of-mouth.  If so, maybe need
to send some postcards or knock on doors.
It should be possible to pull census statistics for each block
to see how many housing units and people the gov’t thinks are in
that block.  If there are 10 houses and 30 people in a block and
none of them are my customers, why not?
*From:* Randy Cosby via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, September 19, 2014 3:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Quick Poll: 477 Deployment Report
I'm curious how everyone is recording on their deployment report.

A: I am reporting every census block where I have a customer
B: I am reporting every census block that I can cover based on
my RF coverage maps
C: Not yet decided




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[AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries 
at solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH. Most of the 
automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty 
irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
Sorry if I wasn't clear.  I meant the automotive type battery 
testers.   I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� 
Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking 
amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Nope, PC -  Thunderbird.

On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting 
weird characters.


bp
On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery 
testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar 
batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with 
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Weird, Does this just happen on double  spaces?

On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Nope, PC -� Thunderbird.

On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting 
weird characters.


bp
On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery 
testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar 
batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with 
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
Ah, figured this out.  Batteries have been getting down to 20c around 
noon, temperature compensation of .12V per degree below 25c, 56.6V is 
where we top out.  Just right.




On 9/18/2014 3:35 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Before anyone mentions it, I know some of these batteries are being 
charged too high. I have my charger (Tristar MPPT-60) set for gel 
battery voltages, and the combined voltage is supposed to top out at 
56v. It looks like we're getting a little higher than that, I need to 
figure out why.





On 9/18/2014 3:14 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Getting back on topic (and trying to avoid double-spaces)...

I have two strings of four GEL batteries, all of them the same age. 
They are all being charged by the same solar panels/controller. 
Positive lead is connected to battery 1, negative to battery 4. Load 
is connected the same way. I am now monitoring each battery 
separately with a pair of sitemonitor 4-input modules.


One battery I know is bad - 1.1 (bank 1 battery 1). It drops under 
12v at night.


The graphs are puzzling to me.  The other batteries I'm not sure on. 
Each seems to have a different/profile slope when charging, but 
similar (but not identical) slope when discharging. Take a look:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4059343/graff%20voltage%20graps.png

Anyone care to venture a guess as to why we're seeing these differences?


On 9/18/2014 1:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

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Telemetry.  Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.  
I have tried to use impedance meters several times at different 
companies and cannot get results that predict failures.
If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the 
solar panels and watch the telemetry.

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*Subject:* [AFMUG] battery tester
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.  
Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold 
cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] Inactivity

2014-09-17 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Butch,

Best of wishes to you in your recovery.  There are hazards in this 
industry that are not well understood or easily seen by others. Take 
care of yourself and be well.


Randy

On 9/17/2014 12:31 PM, Butch Evans via Af wrote:
I have been active on these lists (and others) since around 1997.  In 
the past 2 months, I have more or less dropped off all lists in terms 
of offering support and help.  I have been dealing with some personal 
issues over the past few months and wanted to let you folks know that 
I am still here and offering consulting support, though at a slightly 
reduced volume.


I am deeply saddened that I was unable to attend the MUM and will not 
be able to attend this year's WISPAPALOOZA.  My schedule will be more 
flexible in the coming months and I will be back at the shows next 
year.  While a number of you are customers, I look forward to these 
shows because you folks are also my friends.  I have missed the 
interaction with all of you on the lists and look forward to the time 
when I can return.  My mental/emotional state is improving and I 
expect that I will return to my normal level of activity on these 
lists very soon.


For those of you who didn't miss me at all...Not sure what to say, but 
I'm sticking my tongue out at you.  :-)





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[AFMUG] Tower search

2014-09-17 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
Any recommendations for an FCC tower search web site other than the FCC 
tower search web site?  I needto do a gps-based lookup to see what other 
users are listing for the Location Address at this location in the 
middle of nowhere.  The FCC site is going nowhere.



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